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Title: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 06, 2020, 08:51:10 PM
At 5’6 and almost 250 I think I hit my off-season limit without dying 🤔

Flame on
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Matt on January 06, 2020, 09:14:32 PM
Looking forward to see you cut down to this physique again, Coach!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Kwon on January 06, 2020, 09:17:00 PM
No flaming here Coach!



Time now to get ripped and shredded!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 07, 2020, 03:51:34 AM
whens the show Coach?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 07, 2020, 04:00:00 AM
I'm amazed you can carry all that weight.

Any uncomfortable physical issues at 250? 

Snoring, sleep apnea, thigh chafing, sleeping with a pillow between your arms, etc?

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: robcguns on January 07, 2020, 04:22:33 AM
Looking huge, that’s some serious size for 5’6.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: funk51 on January 07, 2020, 04:30:31 AM
at  66 inches tall , is that your all time bulking weight ?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 07, 2020, 04:41:44 AM
250 at 5’6, close to 60 yrs old is asking for it

I fear for your health more than ever
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 07, 2020, 04:48:39 AM
That's decent weight at 5,6.... Especially at that age.

You must be feeling like shit?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: dan18 on January 07, 2020, 04:54:54 AM
At 5’6 and almost 250 I think I hit my off-season limit without dying 🤔

Flame on
respect to the older generation still going strong but you look old and tired im 5'11 and when I was at 240 I felt strong but tired sluggish im 53 at 215 now I feel a lot better tighter and look better not so old..
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 07, 2020, 05:00:06 AM
respect to the older generation still going strong but you look old and tired im 5'11 and when I was at 240 I felt strong but tired sluggish im 53 at 215 now I feel a lot better tighter and look better not so old..

Yep I'm 6 foot and at 250 I felt like shit, shoving food in all fucking day.....

 can only image 250 at 5,6 and 58 years old!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Marty Champions on January 07, 2020, 05:26:10 AM
I know of a meat eater friend who thinks he has heart disease
Symptoms getting out of breath often

I hope u dont have this coach hes short n stocky like u
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 07, 2020, 05:44:12 AM
Love you Coach and you're a very skilled bodybuilder & trainer, but forget about all that size man. At this point in life, I think it might be wiser to concentrate on optimizing overall heart health. The bodybuilding lifestyle is addictive, so I understand how hard it can be to break the cycle of "bloat-train-steroids-build muscle-diet-contest-rinse/repeat", but as we get older, our bodies are less capable of putting up with all the physiological stress you are subjecting it to.

Lean out brother. Get down to a healthy 170-175. You will look great and your heart will thank you.

"1"
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: bigkid on January 07, 2020, 06:23:04 AM
Not smart.  Drop the size if you care about your health
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 07, 2020, 06:28:21 AM
On the other hand...go for 280.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 07, 2020, 06:41:05 AM
On the other hand...go for 280.

LOL....
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: frankpt on January 07, 2020, 08:50:14 AM
It must be rough. I am  53, 5'8 and can't even handle 200 any more.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: D.O.A. on January 07, 2020, 09:00:25 AM
At 5’6 and almost 250 I think I hit my off-season limit without dying 🤔

Flame on
That's hardcore.  I think its awesome to achieve your goal. Very impressive look.
It is bodybuilding after all not cross fit.
Hick ups still bothering you?

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: ilalin on January 07, 2020, 09:03:43 AM
I think if you prep properly you'll start looking amazing soon but watch your health. Life is much, much easier when you're light.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: TheShape. on January 07, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
Looking like Cswole these days, no cupcakin’ no lolipoppin’!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: kreator on January 07, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
Love you Coach and you're a very skilled bodybuilder & trainer, but forget about all that size man. At this point in life, I think it might be wiser to concentrate on optimizing overall heart health. The bodybuilding lifestyle is addictive, so I understand how hard it can be to break the cycle of "bloat-train-steroids-build muscle-diet-contest-rinse/repeat", but as we get older, our bodies are less capable of putting up with all the physiological stress you are subjecting it to.

Lean out brother. Get down to a healthy 170-175. You will look great and your heart will thank you.

"1"

You don‘t get to call yourself a bodybuilder if you‘re not willing to die for us!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Kwon on January 07, 2020, 09:36:38 AM
Please dont die for us Joe.


We are barely holding on!





Get down to 165 and shredded!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 07, 2020, 09:45:25 AM
Masters Nats this summer........plenty of time Joe ................now shift gears and get busy !!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 10:34:01 AM
I think if you prep properly you'll start looking amazing soon but watch your health. Life is much, much easier when you're light.

I’ll start dropping this week until the Feb 15 where i should be down to about 235. It’s at that point where I start my real prep and personally cannot wait. Admittedly at this weight it’s no fun.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 10:34:44 AM
That's hardcore.  I think its awesome to achieve your goal. Very impressive look.
It is bodybuilding after all not cross fit.
Hick ups still bothering you?



Hiccups are gone
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 10:35:50 AM
That's decent weight at 5,6.... Especially at that age.

You must be feeling like shit?

I don’t feel great.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Matt on January 07, 2020, 10:36:24 AM
Coach, how much did you weigh in that Ironage photo?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 10:39:19 AM
Coach, how much did you weigh in that Ironage photo?

162
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 07, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
Love you Coach and you're a very skilled bodybuilder & trainer, but forget about all that size man. At this point in life, I think it might be wiser to concentrate on optimizing overall heart health. The bodybuilding lifestyle is addictive, so I understand how hard it can be to break the cycle of "bloat-train-steroids-build muscle-diet-contest-rinse/repeat", but as we get older, our bodies are less capable of putting up with all the physiological stress you are subjecting it to.

Lean out brother. Get down to a healthy 170-175. You will look great and your heart will thank you.

"1"

This - 250 is crazy to weigh at 50 yo just to bulk up for BB
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 07, 2020, 12:22:51 PM
Yep I'm 6 foot and at 250 I felt like shit, shoving food in all fucking day.....

 can only image 250 at 5,6 and 58 years old!

I’m 6 foot and 135lbs, I can’t even imagine weighing another 115 lbs !
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: dan18 on January 07, 2020, 12:46:09 PM
I’m 6 foot and 135lbs, I can’t even imagine weighing another 115 lbs !
skinny twink
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 07, 2020, 01:52:43 PM
skinny twink


Oh I have no doubt that your wife is under 5’-6” and well over 250 lbs.

Is fromunda cheese a staple in your diet?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Roast Beef Pecs on January 07, 2020, 01:59:28 PM
52 here, weighing in at 235 at 5'10". On 2 blood pressure meds and Lipitor, so I feel I can keep gaining as long as I keep in front of it with the meds. Take your meds Coach, strap on your CPAP and take it up to 280 lbs. The meds will protect you.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 07, 2020, 02:01:52 PM
52 here, weighing in at 235 at 5'10". On 2 blood pressure meds and Lipitor, so I feel I can keep gaining as long as I keep in front of it with the meds. Take your meds Coach, strap on your CPAP and take it up to 280 lbs. The meds will protect you.
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME............. ........................ FUCKFACE  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: a_pupil on January 07, 2020, 02:38:56 PM
keep going and join the 300 club
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 07, 2020, 03:07:26 PM
How’s your pec/felt injury? I remember you posted about that awhile back.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 07, 2020, 03:28:11 PM
Classic BB is my favourite, but organizations should drop those + 4 kg,+ 6kg,.....................per category !.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 04:29:54 PM
52 here, weighing in at 235 at 5'10". On 2 blood pressure meds and Lipitor, so I feel I can keep gaining as long as I keep in front of it with the meds. Take your meds Coach, strap on your CPAP and take it up to 280 lbs. The meds will protect you.

I've been on lisinopril for quite a while now. Had to get off the statins because they were absolutely debilitating
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 04:38:20 PM
Love you Coach and you're a very skilled bodybuilder & trainer, but forget about all that size man. At this point in life, I think it might be wiser to concentrate on optimizing overall heart health. The bodybuilding lifestyle is addictive, so I understand how hard it can be to break the cycle of "bloat-train-steroids-build muscle-diet-contest-rinse/repeat", but as we get older, our bodies are less capable of putting up with all the physiological stress you are subjecting it to.

Lean out brother. Get down to a healthy 170-175. You will look great and your heart will thank you.

"1"

I completely understand and know in the back of my mind I'm too old to be this big and got carried away with knowing after the Cal I needed to put on size for the Nationals in July and then If I win whatever comes after that. Never been this big before while staying relatively lean. Like I said, I'll drop to about 235 before I start actual prep. Next year I think I'm done and will come down and stay around 190-200.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Army of One on January 07, 2020, 04:42:16 PM
I completely understand and know in the back of my mind I'm too old to be this big and got carried away with knowing after the Cal I needed to put on size for the Nationals in July and then If I win whatever comes after that. Never been this big before while staying relatively lean. Like I said, I'll drop to about 235 before I start actual prep. Next year I think I'm done and will come down and stay around 190-200.

for the sake of your kid/kids you should get back to 170.Speaking as someone who lost parents young, nothing is more painful.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Matt on January 07, 2020, 04:42:42 PM
162

Amazing physique!

Is 38 too young to start on heart health drugs, assuming no symptoms are present?

I am pretty lucky to have no health problems yet, but pushing 40, I take nothing for granted.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Matt on January 07, 2020, 04:46:17 PM
for the sake of your kid/kids you should get back to 170.Speaking as someone who lost parents young, nothing is more painful.

I'm not sure how lean Coach can be at 58 [or how lean ANYONE can be, with age], but if he got to 170-lb in condition, he would look amazing.  That is pretty massive for his height.  There was a guy who I knew in 2001 who was 5'6" and 180-lb, and he was considered huge for a 20-year-old.  It's not like 180-lb would even be small for 5'10".  Georges St-Pierre was doing most of his best competitive work in fighting at around 185-lb, and he is 5'10.5".  He looked like a mini-bodybuilder.  As I said, I don't know how lean Coach can be at his age [i.e., does he want to take whatever is necessary to be extremely lean at his age], but 170-lb at even 15% body fat would be a solid physique for any age.  And there is no reason why he couldn't be at least that, if not in much better shape.

I didn't know that about your parents, Army of One.  That's sad.  :(
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 07, 2020, 04:50:21 PM
I'm not sure how lean Coach can be at 58 [or how lean ANYONE can be, with age], but if he got to 170-lb in condition, he would look amazing.  That is pretty massive for his height.  There was a guy who I knew in 2001 who was 5'6" and 180-lb, and he was considered huge for a 20-year-old.  It's not like 180-lb would even be small for 5'10".  Georges St-Pierre was doing most of his best competitive work in fighting at around 185-lb, and he is 5'10.5".  He looked like a mini-bodybuilder.  As I said, I don't know how lean Coach can be at his age [i.e., does he want to take whatever is necessary to be extremely lean at his age], but 170-lb at even 15% body fat would be a solid physique for any age.  And there is no reason why he couldn't be at least that, if not in much better shape.

I didn't know that about your parents, Army of One.  That's sad.  :(

Look up Tito Raymond, he’s around 175-180 currently in lean condition, he’s around 5’6 like coach

But coach wants to be like Jose Raymond instead
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 07, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
At 5’6 and almost 250 I think I hit my off-season limit without dying 🤔

Flame on

Crazy. I’m 7 inches taller and went up to 230-240 I felt awful weighing that much. Never again. Props for living with some edge man I’m sure you’ll end up looking jacked and shredded for the contest.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 05:10:51 PM
Look up Tito Raymond, he’s around 175-180 currently in lean condition, he’s around 5’6 like coach

But coach wants to be like Jose Raymond instead

Tito and I are the exact same height and lean as hell at the 175-180. Jose is about 5’3- 5’4 and according to Tito he’s gets to about 260 in the off-season (his current weight) obviously as great as a physique Tito has he didn’t want to take Jose’s route. My coach, Eryk Bui would go to about 225 in the off-season and compete around 205 at 5’4
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 07, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
I completely understand and know in the back of my mind I'm too old to be this big and got carried away with knowing after the Cal I needed to put on size for the Nationals in July and then If I win whatever comes after that. Never been this big before while staying relatively lean. Like I said, I'll drop to about 235 before I start actual prep. Next year I think I'm done and will come down and stay around 190-200.

Add to my comments the fact that you're a smart, highly successful, family (wife + kids) man with multiple businesses. You've got your shit together in this game we call life. Everyone who knows you is fully aware that you're capable of getting into contest shape at a moment's notice and have a history of being in fantastic shape over the last 3-4 decades, because you have raw determination. You don't need whatever it is that these contests give you. You've proven to yourself and the world enough times over that you are a master at this game of bodybuilding. Now, as we (and I mean you, myself and the other 55+ members of this board) get older, what counts is maximizing our time on this earth for the sake of our family and friends. You have too much to lose my friend. Your wife and kids are all that matter in this world, the rest is just noise we use to fill our time on this planet.

Lovingly yours,

"1"
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 07, 2020, 05:22:58 PM
Tito and I are the exact same height and lean as hell at the 175-180. Jose is about 5’3- 5’4 and according to Tito he’s gets to about 260 in the off-season (his current weight) obviously as great as a physique Tito has he didn’t want to take Jose’s route. My coach, Eryk Bui would go to about 225 in the off-season and compete around 205 at 5’4

Oh shit I remember that guy. I saw him in person is he an actual dwarf (small person) trying to be politically correct.  He looked very unusual in person.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 07, 2020, 05:48:25 PM
Tito and I are the exact same height and lean as hell at the 175-180. Jose is about 5’3- 5’4 and according to Tito he’s gets to about 260 in the off-season (his current weight) obviously as great as a physique Tito has he didn’t want to take Jose’s route. My coach, Eryk Bui would go to about 225 in the off-season and compete around 205 at 5’4


Eryk is a good guy, very knowledgeable, talked to him on a few occasions in the past when he was still competing, he looked his best at the night of champions I believe, or maybe San Francisco pro back in 2005. His best was around 190’s on stage. I can’t imagine being 225 or more at 5’4

He still seems to be in great shape nowadays, def moved on from competing. How’s he doing?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: 2ND COMING on January 07, 2020, 05:51:19 PM
When coach decides to try 280

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 07, 2020, 05:52:14 PM
Crazy. I’m 7 inches taller and went up to 230-240 I felt awful weighing that much. Never again. Props for living with some edge man I’m sure you’ll end up looking jacked and shredded for the contest.

I’m 6’2 and that’s the most I’ve been up to in weight, and I didn’t feel too comfortable. I’m around 215, 220 max, good shape, prob around 10/11 percent bf and clean
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 05:59:23 PM

Eryk is a good guy, very knowledgeable, talked to him on a few occasions in the past when he was still competing, he looked his best at the night of champions I believe, or maybe San Francisco pro back in 2005. His best was around 190’s on stage. I can’t imagine being 225 or more at 5’4

He still seems to be in great shape nowadays, def moved on from competing. How’s he doing?

Eryk is awesome. Love him like a brother and although he doesn’t compete he’s still stays in shape at about 175. First met Eryk I think the Ironman Pro back in 2006
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 07, 2020, 06:23:16 PM
Eryk is awesome. Love him like a brother and although he doesn’t compete he’s still stays in shape at about 175. First met Eryk I think the Ironman Pro back in 2006

Didn't Goodrum have a beef with either him or his sister a couple years ago?  Or am I thinking of someone else?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2020, 06:52:27 PM
Didn't Goodrum have a beef with either him or his sister a couple years ago?  Or am I thinking of someone else?

I haven’t heard that must’ve been someone else
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 08, 2020, 01:53:50 AM
I’m 6 foot and 135lbs, I can’t even imagine weighing another 115 lbs !

Nice.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 08, 2020, 02:26:47 AM
Didn't Goodrum have a beef with either him or his sister a couple years ago?  Or am I thinking of someone else?

The person that had beef with him and they both went back and forth on here was bob
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 08, 2020, 03:23:49 AM
I’m 6 foot and 135lbs, I can’t even imagine weighing another 115 lbs !

I'm assuming your a woman at that weight....
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: rocket on January 08, 2020, 05:30:12 AM
Flame on

Step off the slippery slope and get a hold of yourself.  The photo Matt posted is what you should look like. 

I can smell your escalation a mile away.  Standing on stage with a bunch of people who are similarly out of control isn't a badge of honour.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: falco on January 08, 2020, 06:18:00 AM
I fear for your health. Lean out fast!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Griffith on January 08, 2020, 06:25:45 AM
Do you have any problems with stretched or loosened skin from bulking when you reduce weight?

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: sarcafago on January 08, 2020, 06:35:44 AM
You’re an inspiration coach. Hey, I was browsing the joelocal shop and was wondering when you’d be restocking the nuke israel tee.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N54-hjRTXn4/T1VOL1-LGLI/AAAAAAAAAeM/9BdAtGgv-no/s1600/NUKE+ISRAEL+Alex+Studer.bmp)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: SuperTed on January 08, 2020, 06:51:56 AM
250 at 5’6, close to 60 yrs old is asking for it

I fear for your health more than ever

This. I wouldn't want to be over 200 at that age and height.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 08, 2020, 08:09:08 AM
I'm assuming your a woman at that weight....

Yes, I’ve been as heavy as 145 lbs, but that extra weight just made me all ass and boobs.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 08, 2020, 01:35:24 PM
Yes, I’ve been as heavy as 145 lbs, but that extra weight just made me all ass and boobs.

Sounds like a come on.  ;)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 08, 2020, 04:18:47 PM
The person that had beef with him and they both went back and forth on here was bob

I thought Eryk's sister was on here for a while and VVV sent her packing.  No?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: chaos on January 08, 2020, 04:28:01 PM
Yes, I’ve been as heavy as 145 lbs, but that extra weight just made me all ass and boobs.
I remember that.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Rambone on January 08, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
Don’t forget to use the Milos protocols
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: m8 on January 08, 2020, 04:33:23 PM
Dying for us bitches :D
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 08, 2020, 05:24:03 PM
Check my training schedule on Y page.     Your welcome.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 08, 2020, 08:22:27 PM
Thanks for proving my point.

(https://a.wattpad.com/cover/192055843-352-k522520.jpg)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: chaos on January 08, 2020, 08:23:34 PM
It is true that I have no interest in you, but it is not because you are female, it is because you aren't human.
Are you saying you view females as sub-human ???
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 09, 2020, 01:41:46 AM
Are you saying you view females as sub-human ???

Rich coming from a soggy old queer that backs his ass into a random cock poking out of a hole in the wall and has been on his knees ravenously consuming gallons of man-goo in his lifetime. What was his expression? That's right -- KABOOM!

 (https://st2.depositphotos.com/3834629/5480/v/450/depositphotos_54805073-stock-illustration-throw-up.jpg)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 09, 2020, 12:36:07 PM
Are you saying you view females as sub-human ???

Hardly. I'm saying Just Plain Jane isn't human. Human females aren't vile disgusting assholes like "it" is.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 09, 2020, 01:38:47 PM
Hardly. I'm saying Just Plain Jane isn't human. Human females aren't vile disgusting assholes like "it" is.

You sucked cock and got assfucked at a glory hole by strange men while your wife was at home raising your children.

You are a disgusting pervert and your wife was a fucking moron for staying with a soggy old queer like you.

Fuck off and die, soggy old Oklahomo !
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 09, 2020, 02:06:07 PM
Hardly. I'm saying Just Plain Jane isn't human. Human females aren't vile disgusting assholes like "it" is.

Holy shit! A new low for the soggy old queer. 90% of this board considers him vile and disgusting and he has the audacity to call someone else vile and disgusting.

So clueless. So unaware. No ability for self-reflection. No idea how he comes across to others.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: el numero uno on January 09, 2020, 02:14:03 PM
I'm 5'6 and the Dr advised me to get down to 145 lb. I'm at 160 lb now.

Anyway, not trying to be mean, but 250 at 5'6 would be hell for me. To each their own I guess.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 09, 2020, 06:57:29 PM
I'm 5'6 and the Dr advised me to get down to 145 lb. I'm at 160 lb now.

Anyway, not trying to be mean, but 250 at 5'6 would be hell for me. To each their own I guess.

My doc isn’t happy but he gets it.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2020, 07:08:25 PM
I say you look good at 220 mark, like 200 205 nasty if it all goes well on stage
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Vince B on January 09, 2020, 07:50:46 PM
My doc isn’t happy but he gets it.


Midlife crisis or something similar. You have to prove that you can still do it. The cost is quite high. Of course you won't listen to any advices.

Training at Gold's can do that. Lots of motivation there. Will this be the last time you are on stage?

Training to regain a youthful physique is great. Not so sure about competing in open divisions where drugs are allowed.

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 09, 2020, 09:01:57 PM
For this prep Joe I would throw my scale out the window and go solely by the mirror.

Train Hard!!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 09, 2020, 10:17:53 PM

Midlife crisis or something similar. You have to prove that you can still do it. The cost is quite high. Of course you won't listen to any advices.

Training at Gold's can do that. Lots of motivation there. Will this be the last time you are on stage?

Training to regain a youthful physique is great. Not so sure about competing in open divisions where drugs are allowed.



No midlife crisis. Let’s just call it unfinished business from my past.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 09, 2020, 10:20:42 PM
For this prep Joe I would throw my scale out the window and go solely by the mirror.

Train Hard!!

It’ll be thrown out when my actual prep starts on February 15 with the exceptions of my weekly weigh ins and and BF% measurements. 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 09, 2020, 10:38:35 PM
I'm 5'6 and the Dr advised me to get down to 145 lb. I'm at 160 lb now.

Anyway, not trying to be mean, but 250 at 5'6 would be hell for me. To each their own I guess.



Squadfather would ravage you as a tiny tit if he wasn't away on business.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 09, 2020, 11:32:45 PM
I'm 5'6 and the Dr advised me to get down to 145 lb. I'm at 160 lb now.

Anyway, not trying to be mean, but 250 at 5'6 would be hell for me. To each their own I guess.

You’re not being mean at all. Being this weight isn’t fun.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Griffith on January 10, 2020, 12:51:20 AM
My worry would be stretched skin from so much extra weight.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: jr on January 10, 2020, 03:41:02 AM

 I can’t imagine being 225 or more at 5’4


Lee Priest is about 5'4. I wonder how much he weighs in this video:



He can't even grab his hands behind his back.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 10, 2020, 04:06:21 AM
Lee Priest is about 5'4. I wonder how much he weighs in this video:



He can't even grab his hands behind his back.

99% of people would find it impossinble toi get fat like that, his fat distribution is spread all over his body, most men will just get a gut and a fat back if they overate to that extent.

I have ab and back fat at the moment but my legs are pretty cut up
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 10, 2020, 04:58:33 AM
Lee Priest is about 5'4. I wonder how much he weighs in this video:



He can't even grab his hands behind his back.

Fitting song, total freak...

I know he has said he went as high as 280 at heaviest offseason.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 10, 2020, 06:02:15 AM
No midlife crisis. Let’s just call it unfinished business from my past.

Damn it brother!

I just don't want you to go ahead and inadvertently pick up new (future & health-related) business that will instead finish you.

Either way, I know sometimes when our minds are made, our minds are made. I hope that, above all else, our efforts to deter you from any future contests are seen as genuine show of love versus our desire to pull you away from something you love. We all just want you to be healthy and present for the things you love most (wife + kids).

As always, if you go through with it (which I think you will), you can count on all of our support.

Your friend in porn,

"1"
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: dan18 on January 10, 2020, 07:00:40 AM
Oh I have no doubt that your wife is under 5’-6” and well over 250 lbs.

Is fromunda cheese a staple in your diet?
she is about that height at 110 spanish italian hottie unlike your nasty self im sure
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 10, 2020, 09:42:49 AM
she is about that height at 110 spanish italian hottie unlike your nasty self im sure

Sure.

Groink said the same thing about his “hot” granny chick.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 10, 2020, 12:11:20 PM
No midlife crisis. Let’s just call it unfinished business from my past.

Old fat slob could not advise athletic  BB !.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2020, 12:18:06 PM
No midlife crisis. Let’s just call it unfinished business from my past.

You did great last show.   There is no unfinished business.  You won!  Health matters bro - don't get stuck in this stupid game these idiots are following today.  Not worth it.  You are doing awesome.

 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 10, 2020, 12:40:30 PM
You're not getting any younger, Coach. You always strike me as very goal-oriented and wanting to achieve things. To keep moving forward. If you have the desire and the will you are on the right track and now is the time -- really the only time at this stage. One of the worse things in life is to have to look back with regret that you didn't do something that you wanted because you were afraid or just didn't believe in yourself. You can't go back in time and there are no do-overs. I think people aren't giving you enough credit though their heart is in the right place (at least some, there are always those that piss on everything). You're not stupid and keep a close watch on things and if there are real serious concerns it won't be ignored. Bulking up and being so heavy is the most dangerous phase of a "prep". It puts tremendous strain on the body. Now that's over and you are still alive. You will only get healthier now. Of course, the next "dangerous" phase is the final countdown when you start depleting water and all that stuff. You've done this enough times to know the risks of excessive depletion but it is done all the time in all sports where one has to make weight. You've done it and you've helped others do it. So I think health-wise the worse is behind you.

I look forward to following your progress and take inspiration being an older person myself. Godspeed!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
52 here, weighing in at 235 at 5'10". On 2 blood pressure meds and Lipitor, so I feel I can keep gaining as long as I keep in front of it with the meds. Take your meds Coach, strap on your CPAP and take it up to 280 lbs. The meds will protect you.

Unless you are joking, you have a very interesting way of looking at your health. If you weighed less, would you still need two blood pressure meds and Lipitor? Statins have  some negative sides.

1. Muscle aches and weakness are frequently reported with the use of statins.
2. Abdominal pain has been observed in many individuals who take statins.
3. Rarely, statins may cause liver damage or liver failure
4. Some patients struggle with insomnia while taking statins, particularly a difficulty falling asleep.
5. Rhabdomyolysis, an extreme and potentially life-threatening form of muscle inflammation, has been reported in 0.1 percent of patients who take statins.
6. There are additional sides which are fairly minor or uncommon.

https://healthprep.com/medications/common-side-effects-statins/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=2054654820&utm_content=77493389966&utm_term=side%20effects%20of%20statins&gclid=CjwKCAiA3uDwBRBFEiwA1VsajHeJWDnjtVUowkSKm7CRniG-o5l3IC22M1NZndPPnVF-a0fu6FaiuRoC3mUQAvD_BwE

Some common side effects of high blood pressure medicines include:

Cough
Diarrhea or constipation
Dizziness or lightheadedness
Erection problems
Feeling nervous
Feeling tired, weak, drowsy, or a lack of energy
Headache
Nausea or vomiting
Skin rash
Weight loss or gain without trying

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/007484.htm
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 10, 2020, 12:54:45 PM
You're not getting any younger, Coach. You always strike me as very goal-oriented and wanting to achieve things. To keep moving forward. If you have the desire and the will you are on the right track and now is the time -- really the only time at this stage. One of the worse things in life is to have to look back with regret that you didn't do something that you wanted because you were afraid or just didn't believe in yourself. You can't go back in time and there are no do-overs. I think people aren't giving you enough credit though their heart is in the right place (at least some, there are always those that piss on everything). You're not stupid and keep a close watch on things and if there are real serious concerns it won't be ignored. Bulking up and being so heavy is the most dangerous phase of a "prep". It puts tremendous strain on the body. Now that's over and you are still alive. You will only get healthier now. Of course, the next "dangerous" phase is the final countdown when you start depleting water and all that stuff. You've done this enough times to know the risks of excessive depletion but it is done all the time in all sports where one has to make weight. You've done it and you've helped others do it. So I think health-wise the worse is behind you.

I look forward to following your progress and take inspiration being an older person myself. Godspeed!

Your posts have been A+ as of late.   
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 10, 2020, 01:00:50 PM
Amazing physique!

Is 38 too young to start on heart health drugs, assuming no symptoms are present?

I am pretty lucky to have no health problems yet, but pushing 40, I take nothing for granted.

Normally people don't take medications for high blood pressure and high cholesterol when these things aren't a problem and may never be. No doctor who is legit will prescribe meds as a preventative rather than a treatment.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2020, 01:01:17 PM
Your posts have been A+ as of late.   
YEAH,,,,,he is the face  of get big now.i went back into old get big  'physique 'rankings thread a true classic 101 pages last big thread here with all the old major players in it .pics,grudges,insults,all in one thread...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 10, 2020, 01:02:04 PM
Unless you are joking, you have a very interesting way of looking at your health. If you weighed less, would you still need two blood pressure meds and Lipitor? Statins have  some negative sides.

1. Muscle aches and weakness are frequently reported with the use of statins.
2. Abdominal pain has been observed in many individuals who take statins.
3. Rarely, statins may cause liver damage or liver failure
4. Some patients struggle with insomnia while taking statins, particularly a difficulty falling asleep.
5. Rhabdomyolysis, an extreme and potentially life-threatening form of muscle inflammation, has been reported in 0.1 percent of patients who take statins.
6. There are additional sides which are fairly minor or uncommon.

https://healthprep.com/medications/common-side-effects-statins/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=2054654820&utm_content=77493389966&utm_term=side%20effects%20of%20statins&gclid=CjwKCAiA3uDwBRBFEiwA1VsajHeJWDnjtVUowkSKm7CRniG-o5l3IC22M1NZndPPnVF-a0fu6FaiuRoC3mUQAvD_BwE

Some common side effects of high blood pressure medicines include:

Cough
Diarrhea or constipation
Dizziness or lightheadedness
Erection problems
Feeling nervous
Feeling tired, weak, drowsy, or a lack of energy
Headache
Nausea or vomiting
Skin rash
Weight loss or gain without trying

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/007484.htm

STFU with your copy/paste googling. Nobody needs advice from a soggy old queer with a bleeding rectum and droopy tits.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 10, 2020, 01:04:37 PM
YEAH,,,,,he is the face  of get big now.i went back into old get big  'physique 'rankings thread a true classic 101 pages last big thread here with all the old major players in it .pics,grudges,insults,all in one thread...

HAH! I remember that thread! Good times.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: dr.chimps on January 10, 2020, 02:32:50 PM
Cripes. I'm no (political) Coach fan, but this is playing with dynamite on a short fuse. This is not funny. Joe, you are truly red-lining every health indice I can think of. Best wishes for the contest/and a return to health. You've got so much more to do.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 10, 2020, 07:16:14 PM
No midlife crisis. Let’s just call it unfinished business from my past.

It can't be a midlife crisis. He's 57. Unless he lives to 114.  It's an old age crisis. 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 10, 2020, 07:39:26 PM
I think coach should be like lee priest and take his weight up to 280 off season
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 10, 2020, 08:09:45 PM
Cripes. I'm no (political) Coach fan, but this is playing with dynamite on a short fuse. This is not funny. Joe, you are truly red-lining every health indice I can think of. Best wishes for the contest/and a return to health. You've got so much more to do.

I appreciate it and I’m making changes.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 10, 2020, 08:11:54 PM
I think coach should be like lee priest and take his weight up to 280 off season

That was insane. When I saw Lee last year he was probably close to 250 and he’s an inch shorter than me. He told me his prep even at that weight was only 12 weeks with two hours of cardio per day.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: karasan on January 10, 2020, 08:36:45 PM
No midlife crisis. Let’s just call it unfinished business from my past.
I hope stroke doesn't have unfinished business with you!
It really doesn't worth putting your cardiovascular system under such pressure.
Also I really don't think all that weight gain was in the right place.
You had amazing lines in your teens, now you don't have much taper, being that heavy with thick obliques zeroes all that gains.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Matt on January 10, 2020, 08:59:23 PM
You know...this thread seems pretty critical of Coach, but I appreciate that it comes from a space of genuine concern for his health.

Coach, you know that I've always been a supporter of yours, but I just think you have nothing to prove.  I think you mentioned above being lean at 190-200, but if you were lean at 170-lb, you would be more muscular than 99% of men at any age!  If you are comfortable at 200-lb and relatively lean, then all the power to you.  Some men can be heavier and be more comfortable at that weight.  I have decided that for myself, being 175-lb and relatively lean [compared to the general public - not by competitive bodybuilding standards] is more than sufficient.  I can be pretty strong [for me] at that weight, be competitive nationally in my weight class in strongman, and overall, feel pretty good.

You obviously have a better capacity for gaining muscle than I do though.  For example, even at 185-lb, my weight starts going straight to my stomach.  So I absolutely can't be a big man - especially naturally.  I suspect I could be 200-lb with a smaller stomach if I had some assistance, but I feel 175-lb for me is the weight that maximizes strength, fitness, and overall just feeling good.

Like I said, you are going to be more muscular than 99% of men even if you weigh substantially less.  It's also pretty apparent to me that you are going to be a fit muscular man for basically your entire life.  And again - you have absolutely nothing to prove.

I hope none of this comes across as jealous.  It goes without saying that you have a better physique than I ever do.  And I am impressed with your results over 50, or for any age really!  You and tommywishbone are both inspirations to me.  No hate here!

Let's not forget that you've already spent years as one of the leanest and most muscular men around.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 10, 2020, 09:33:24 PM
I hope stroke doesn't have unfinished business with you!
It really doesn't worth putting your cardiovascular system under such pressure.
Also I really don't think all that weight gain was in the right place.
You had amazing lines in your teens, now you don't have much taper, being that heavy with thick obliques zeroes all that gains.

I see what you’re saying but damn, you’re trying to compare me now to almost 37 years ago. When I started dieting for the Cal last May my beginning weight at prep was 213 and weighed in on the Friday before the show at about 193-4. When I stepped on stage after loading I was 202. Night show I was 207. I actually grew into my prep nicely.

I was going to do the Nationals (Masters) after the Cal in July but felt I needed more size with better conditioning to compete at that level. I took the year off to prepare for this coming July (Nationals). It’s been almost 71/2 months of training, eating and generally staying on task (yes, including Doctors check ups) and staying focused. The last time my BF was measured I was 238 at 12.8%. Since I posted this I’ve dropped 6lbs. BP was a bit elevated but it’s under control now.

The hiccups were caused because my digestive system was screwed up from all the food and constipated. Obviously at my age my digestive system can’t handle that much food. By the time another meal time came around, my previous meal wasn’t digested yet (for info on my diet see the “what did you eat yesterday” thread. My diet (before last week) was about 80/20 clean to dirty.

Cardiovascular systems checks out with the scans I had a few months ago with no blockage whatsoever. BP is taken 2-3x per day
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 10, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
I see what you’re saying but damn, you’re trying to compare me now to almost 37 years ago. When I started dieting for the Cal last May my beginning weight at prep was 213 and weighed in on the Friday before the show at about 193-4. When I stepped on stage after loading I was 202. Night show I was 207. I actually grew into my prep nicely.

I was going to do the Nationals (Masters) after the Cal in July but felt I needed more size with better conditioning to compete at that level. I took the year off to prepare for this coming July (Nationals). It’s been almost 71/2 months of training, eating and generally staying on task (yes, including Doctors check ups) and staying focused. The last time my BF was measured I was 238 at 12.8%. Since I posted this I’ve dropped 6lbs. BP was a bit elevated but it’s under control now.

The hiccups were caused because my digestive system was screwed up from all the food and constipated. Obviously at my age my digestive system can’t handle that much food. By the time another meal time came around, my previous meal wasn’t digested yet (for info on my diet see the “what did you eat yesterday” thread. My diet (before last week) was about 80/20 clean to dirty.

Cardiovascular systems checks out with the scans I had a few months ago with no blockage whatsoever. BP is taken 2-3x per day

Are you targeting a specific weight class?  Or just letting the chips fall where they may?  238 @ 12% tells me that you could be in shape at heavyweight. 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 10, 2020, 10:15:22 PM
Are you targeting a specific weight class?  Or just letting the chips fall where they may?  238 @ 12% tells me that you could be in shape at heavyweight. 

Not worried about weight classes. Wherever I’m shredded at. But at this point I don’t see myself in the Light  Hvys but if I had to guess 205-10 at weigh ins
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 10, 2020, 10:26:34 PM
I completely understand and know in the back of my mind I'm too old to be this big and got carried away with knowing after the Cal I needed to put on size for the Nationals in July and then If I win whatever comes after that. Never been this big before while staying relatively lean. Like I said, I'll drop to about 235 before I start actual prep. Next year I think I'm done and will come down and stay around 190-200.

Stay at whatever weight you feel comfortable at.
I’m a year older than you, same height & carry a lean (no not contest ready) 230-235lbs
I’d like a few more lean pounds - Only maintaining is hard enough !!
I’m considering doubling my dosage & seeing if I can gain that bit more.
Fortunately I have no high BP or need of other Meds.
Wish you well in your prep - 💪🏻  👍🏻
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 10, 2020, 10:44:22 PM
Stay at whatever weight you feel comfortable at.
I’m a year older than you, same height & carry a lean (no not contest ready) 230-235lbs
I’d like a few more lean pounds - Only maintaining is hard enough !!
I’m considering doubling my dosage & seeing if I can gain that bit more.
Fortunately I have no high BP or need of other Meds.
Wish you well in your prep - 💪🏻  👍🏻

Thank you. It’s funny I was actually thinking of you when I posted on my IG tonight. It’s a pic myself and Kamal competing at the 2007 Excalibur In LA.

 Side note before I get called out. Illuminati knows Kamal El Gargni
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 10, 2020, 11:22:50 PM
Stay at whatever weight you feel comfortable at.
I’m a year older than you, same height & carry a lean (no not contest ready) 230-235lbs
I’d like a few more lean pounds - Only maintaining is hard enough !!
I’m considering doubling my dosage & seeing if I can gain that bit more.
Fortunately I have no high BP or need of other Meds.
Wish you well in your prep - 💪🏻  👍🏻

You guys are really insane, almost 60 and still trying to do all this lol
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 10, 2020, 11:24:03 PM
Not worried about weight classes. Wherever I’m shredded at. But at this point I don’t see myself in the Light  Hvys but if I had to guess 205-10 at weigh ins

Eryk dialing you in? How is he as a coach?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 10, 2020, 11:35:37 PM
Eryk dialing you in? How is he as a coach?

Eryk is a great prep coach. Dialed me in for the Cal
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 10, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
You guys are really insane, almost 60 and still trying to do all this lol

Why would you say that ? You don’t know how little or much I use.
my sanity or insanity is not in question.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 10, 2020, 11:50:24 PM
Thank you. It’s funny I was actually thinking of you when I posted on my IG tonight. It’s a pic myself and Kamal competing at the 2007 Excalibur In LA.

 Side note before I get called out. Illuminati knows Kamal El Gargni

Ha - How did you both place at that comp ?
On the subject of Kamal he is likey moving to America soon.
He’s been very busy with Guest appearances - he’s kept his weight to around 225/30.
What is your IG ? PM if you like.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 11, 2020, 12:10:12 AM
Ha - How did you both place at that comp ?
On the subject of Kamal he is likey moving to America soon.
He’s been very busy with Guest appearances - he’s kept his weight to around 225/30.
What is your IG ? PM if you like.

Kamal won our class and I missed the top five by a point. Yeah, I follow him. I absolutely love his positivity. Even though I wanted Lundsford to win I was just as happy when Kamal won

@joe_marino62
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 11, 2020, 01:51:43 AM
Why would you say that ? You don’t know how little or much I use.
my sanity or insanity is not in question.


You are almost 60, 5’6 235 pounds and saying you are thinking about doubling your dosage just so you can gain a “few” extra lean pounds. Does that sound logical, smart??

What’s wrong with being 200? Or 190? Even 175? Just enjoy life? Why keep chasing at your age?

I get it, it’s bbing......
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2020, 02:28:57 AM
You are almost 60, 5’6 235 pounds and saying you are thinking about doubling your dosage just so you can gain a “few” extra lean pounds. Does that sound logical, smart??

What’s wrong with being 200? Or 190? Even 175? Just enjoy life? Why keep chasing at your age?

I get it, it’s bbing......

yes, why not just sit on the sofa watching TV,,, why waste his life...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 11, 2020, 03:27:02 AM
You are almost 60, 5’6 235 pounds and saying you are thinking about doubling your dosage just so you can gain a “few” extra lean pounds. Does that sound logical, smart??

What’s wrong with being 200? Or 190? Even 175? Just enjoy life? Why keep chasing at your age?

I get it, it’s bbing......

Incredible as it may sound, some people enjoy life by setting goals and striving to achieve them. When you have a drive, a desire, to do something, to accomplish something that's meaningful to you, it's not about logic or reason. It has to do with this ineffable quality that some men have that makes them different from animals. It's their spirit. Their soul.

There is more to life than just existing as long as you can just seeking pleasure and comfort.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 11, 2020, 03:29:41 AM
yes, why not just sit on the sofa watching TV,,, why waste his life...

If anyone should turn up the gas it would be you. You have virtually flawless lines and a desire to compete. The clock is ticking and you really could make some memories.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2020, 03:42:34 AM
If anyone should turn up the gas it would be you. You have virtually flawless lines and a desire to compete. The clock is ticking and you really could make some memories.

big year this year hopefully, just a few things to get past and then Im going for a coupl big shows later in the year, agreed, the clock is ticking but I think things are falling into place, the age limits have been changed to over 55, I turn 55 in July so its a big advantage for me..
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2020, 09:44:56 AM
At 5’6 and almost 250 I think I hit my off-season limit without dying 🤔

Flame on

Not going to rag on you about this. You seem to have been successful in the past. One would hope that you know what you are doing or better yet, what you need to do. One note, you don't look happy in the photo.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 11, 2020, 09:48:26 AM
You know...this thread seems pretty critical of Coach, but I appreciate that it comes from a space of genuine concern for his health.

Coach, you know that I've always been a supporter of yours, but I just think you have nothing to prove.  I think you mentioned above being lean at 190-200, but if you were lean at 170-lb, you would be more muscular than 99% of men at any age!  If you are comfortable at 200-lb and relatively lean, then all the power to you.  Some men can be heavier and be more comfortable at that weight.  I have decided that for myself, being 175-lb and relatively lean [compared to the general public - not by competitive bodybuilding standards] is more than sufficient.  I can be pretty strong [for me] at that weight, be competitive nationally in my weight class in strongman, and overall, feel pretty good.

You obviously have a better capacity for gaining muscle than I do though.  For example, even at 185-lb, my weight starts going straight to my stomach.  So I absolutely can't be a big man - especially naturally.  I suspect I could be 200-lb with a smaller stomach if I had some assistance, but I feel 175-lb for me is the weight that maximizes strength, fitness, and overall just feeling good.

Like I said, you are going to be more muscular than 99% of men even if you weigh substantially less.  It's also pretty apparent to me that you are going to be a fit muscular man for basically your entire life.  And again - you have absolutely nothing to prove.

I hope none of this comes across as jealous.  It goes without saying that you have a better physique than I ever do.  And I am impressed with your results over 50, or for any age really!  You and tommywishbone are both inspirations to me.  No hate here!

Let's not forget that you've already spent years as one of the leanest and most muscular men around.

Do you take meds of some sort?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2020, 10:44:10 AM
Do you take meds of some sort?
probably not, hence the post..
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2020, 11:19:48 AM
You are almost 60, 5’6 235 pounds and saying you are thinking about doubling your dosage just so you can gain a “few” extra lean pounds. Does that sound logical, smart??

What’s wrong with being 200? Or 190? Even 175? Just enjoy life? Why keep chasing at your age?

I get it, it’s bbing......

It may not be what you think is smart 🙄 - I would hazard a guess that they’re maybe things you do in your life That I wouldn’t consider Smart.
Yes I’m 59 - Lean & Healthy as far as I know - Yes I could drop dead tomorrow & So could you.
I have goals I’d like to achieve & work towards - do you not ?
Whatever I do it isn’t hurting you is it - and I don’t need or want your concern - Thanks.
What if i’m Using 250mg of Test a week & thinking of going to 500mg yep that sure is reckless.🙄
I Drive a lot of miles each year & my job puts me in physical danger - Personally I’d say both are far more
Potentially hazardous to Me than taking extra PED’s.

Weather I’m 220 / 240 / 170 / I’d do my Best to enjoy my life everyday
Please explain what My Body weight has to do with my enjoyment of Life.

Would you be Happier 25/50/75lb lighter or Heavier. ??
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2020, 11:23:19 AM
yes, why not just sit on the sofa watching TV,,, why waste his life...

What is this correlation with body weight & enjoying life -
If your heavier We can’t Enjoy Life 🙄

😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2020, 11:29:09 AM
Incredible as it may sound, some people enjoy life by setting goals and striving to achieve them. When you have a drive, a desire, to do something, to accomplish something that's meaningful to you, it's not about logic or reason. It has to do with this ineffable quality that some men have that makes them different from animals. It's their spirit. Their soul.

There is more to life than just existing as long as you can just seeking pleasure and comfort.

I have done some completely Reckless & Daft things in life Sometimes deliberately & sometimes not.
Maybe people don’t agree with what I’ve done or want to do. I can except that.
As far as taking a higher amount of PEDs I’m undecided as I’m contemplating competing again
Though I’ve other things in my life to sort & address 1st.

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2020, 11:31:47 AM
big year this year hopefully, just a few things to get past and then Im going for a coupl big shows later in the year, agreed, the clock is ticking but I think things are falling into place, the age limits have been changed to over 55, I turn 55 in July so its a big advantage for me..

I hope things fall in place for you & you do compete & achieve good success.
As we’ve spoke about before I do believe with a few changes you can do Very very Well
Competing- all the best - hope we can catch up soon. 👍🏻
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 11, 2020, 11:32:31 AM
Not going to rag on you about this. You seem to have been successful in the past. One would hope that you know what you are doing or better yet, what you need to do. One note, you don't look happy in the photo.

Doing battle isn’t always happy.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2020, 11:48:45 AM
What is this correlation with body weight & enjoying life -
If your heavier We can’t Enjoy Life 🙄

😂🤣😂

the point was about criticism of people taking gear when they got older and that they should somehow be taking the foot off the gas and settling down, people should do what makes them happy, I might be knocking a few years off my life but Im going to go out my way, and the years I might knock off are the fucking worst ones...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: michael arvilla on January 11, 2020, 12:05:06 PM
the point was about criticism of people taking gear when they got older and that they should somehow be taking the foot off the gas and settling down, people should do what makes them happy, I might be knocking a few years off my life but Im going to go out my way, and the years I might knock off are the fucking worst ones...
Wow ... well said!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
the point was about criticism of people taking gear when they got older and that they should somehow be taking the foot off the gas and settling down, people should do what makes them happy, I might be knocking a few years off my life but Im going to go out my way, and the years I might knock off are the fucking worst ones...

Yes I get that - Only my point is there are a whole host of potentially much worse things to be doing
And I don’t really see Muscular body weight as That Big a Risk Factor. Clearly I could be Very Wrong.
Sure I’d like to continue life for a good few more years & Hopefully Decent Quality years.
As you say the fact is getting very old there isn’t much in improvement of quality of life.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
Yes I get that - Only my point is there are a whole host of potentially much worse things to be doing
And I don’t really see Muscular body weight as That Big a Risk Factor. Clearly I could be Very Wrong.
Sure I’d like to continue life for a good few more years & Hopefully Decent Quality years.
As you say the fact is getting very old there isn’t much in improvement of quality of life.

agreed, I dont drink and dont smoke, which I think are probably the worst things you can do if you want to live a long time
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Straw Man on January 11, 2020, 12:34:55 PM
I see what you’re saying but damn, you’re trying to compare me now to almost 37 years ago. When I started dieting for the Cal last May my beginning weight at prep was 213 and weighed in on the Friday before the show at about 193-4. When I stepped on stage after loading I was 202. Night show I was 207. I actually grew into my prep nicely.

I was going to do the Nationals (Masters) after the Cal in July but felt I needed more size with better conditioning to compete at that level. I took the year off to prepare for this coming July (Nationals). It’s been almost 71/2 months of training, eating and generally staying on task (yes, including Doctors check ups) and staying focused. The last time my BF was measured I was 238 at 12.8%. Since I posted this I’ve dropped 6lbs. BP was a bit elevated but it’s under control now.

The hiccups were caused because my digestive system was screwed up from all the food and constipated. Obviously at my age my digestive system can’t handle that much food. By the time another meal time came around, my previous meal wasn’t digested yet (for info on my diet see the “what did you eat yesterday” thread. My diet (before last week) was about 80/20 clean to dirty.

Cardiovascular systems checks out with the scans I had a few months ago with no blockage whatsoever. BP is taken 2-3x per day

Didn't  you already have a stroke or something like that recently

BTW - as you know I fully support your right (and everyone's right) to CHOOSE what they want to do with their body

Glad to see that you and I can at least agree on Freedom of Choice for you and everyone else

BTW - Isn't Lee Labrada about the same height as you?  

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 11, 2020, 12:54:51 PM
the point was about criticism of people taking gear when they got older and that they should somehow be taking the foot off the gas and settling down, people should do what makes them happy, I might be knocking a few years off my life but Im going to go out my way, and the years I might knock off are the fucking worst ones...

People should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies. Applies to abortion too.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 11, 2020, 12:59:33 PM
A lot of people trying to tell other people what to do with their life in this thread.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 11, 2020, 01:06:47 PM
A lot of people trying to tell other people what to do with their life in this thread.

Should they not do that?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 11, 2020, 02:01:43 PM
Most guys posting here who have never competed will never understand why guys like Joe,illuminati,or joswift and others continue to train to compete.

Just keeping it real .............not a knock on guys who`ve never done a contest,but competing can be a source of drive and always allows you to get in top condition...........a feat that is rarely done by just working out a few days a week.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 11, 2020, 11:30:02 PM
Didn't  you already have a stroke or something like that recently

BTW - as you know I fully support your right (and everyone's right) to CHOOSE what they want to do with their body

Glad to see that you and I can at least agree on Freedom of Choice for you and everyone else

BTW - Isn't Lee Labrada about the same height as you?  



Had a TIA
about a year and half ago. Nothing since

Lee LaBrada is about 2” shorter than me

As far as the right to choose what I do with my body? There isn’t another life involved.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 12, 2020, 04:04:10 AM
It may not be what you think is smart 🙄 - I would hazard a guess that they’re maybe things you do in your life That I wouldn’t consider Smart.
Yes I’m 59 - Lean & Healthy as far as I know - Yes I could drop dead tomorrow & So could you.
I have goals I’d like to achieve & work towards - do you not ?
Whatever I do it isn’t hurting you is it - and I don’t need or want your concern - Thanks.
What if i’m Using 250mg of Test a week & thinking of going to 500mg yep that sure is reckless.🙄
I Drive a lot of miles each year & my job puts me in physical danger - Personally I’d say both are far more
Potentially hazardous to Me than taking extra PED’s.

Weather I’m 220 / 240 / 170 / I’d do my Best to enjoy my life everyday
Please explain what My Body weight has to do with my enjoyment of Life.

Would you be Happier 25/50/75lb lighter or Heavier. ??

Everyone is always going to justify what they do in their lives

Bottom line is as I get older, common sense comes in to think family first, me, second

Sounds like a bunch of you are chasing a dream still, a void that’s not filled in your personal lives

I fear for your health

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 12, 2020, 04:05:32 AM
yes, why not just sit on the sofa watching TV,,, why waste his life...

No, but he could be taking the Tito Raymond route or like most “older” bbers like Dorian, Lee Haney route

 ::)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 12, 2020, 04:08:24 AM
Incredible as it may sound, some people enjoy life by setting goals and striving to achieve them. When you have a drive, a desire, to do something, to accomplish something that's meaningful to you, it's not about logic or reason. It has to do with this ineffable quality that some men have that makes them different from animals. It's their spirit. Their soul.

There is more to life than just existing as long as you can just seeking pleasure and comfort.

Yes, tell that to Dorian, Lee lebrada, Lee haney, etc...

They are all successful, in shape, and not chasing a dream to keep getting bigger as they age
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2020, 04:28:48 AM
Everyone is always going to justify what they do in their lives

Bottom line is as I get older, common sense comes in to think family first, me, second

Sounds like a bunch of you are chasing a dream still, a void that’s not filled in your personal lives

I fear for your health



You’ve managed to avoid the questions - And you asked the questions of Me.
You very clearly Dug yourself into a hole & aren’t able to get out of it.

Sounds like you are vacuous & bitter & No common sense in answering
I most certainly don’t fear for your health - possibly your mental state.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2020, 04:31:47 AM
Yes, tell that to Dorian, Lee lebrada, Lee haney, etc...

They are all successful, in shape, and not chasing a dream to keep getting bigger as they age

Nope they may not be chasing that goal - likey they maybe chasing other goals & dreams.

With your logic - only the goals & dreams you approve of are acceptable 🙄🙄
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 12, 2020, 04:59:06 AM
A lot of people trying to tell other people what to do with their life in this thread.

Yep^... If someone wants to juice up and compete in their 50's or whatever that's their choice.

We all know it is very unhealthy pushing hard at that age, but if that's what it takes for someone to have some purpose then that's what it takes.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 12, 2020, 05:01:16 AM
What is this correlation with body weight & enjoying life -
If your heavier We can’t Enjoy Life 🙄

😂🤣😂

This woman looks happy.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0608j7I7B-I/UWwhbQC1b4I/AAAAAAAAFwI/gT6Hr_A6K3Q/s1600/funny-fat-women-girls-people-obese-images-pics-photos-world-1.jpg)

Another happy heavy lady.  Has 20-inch arms too.

(https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1410999293/388/10514388.jpg)



Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 12, 2020, 05:04:59 AM
Yep^... If someone wants to juice up and compete in their 50's or whatever that's their choice.

We all know it is very unhealthy pushing hard at that age, but if that's what it takes for someone to have some purpose then that's what it takes.

Agree can’t knock someone for finding their purpose by addressing unfinished business through the iron.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 12, 2020, 05:43:50 AM
Yep^... If someone wants to juice up and compete in their 50's or whatever that's their choice.

We all know it is very unhealthy pushing hard at that age, but if that's what it takes for someone to have some purpose then that's what it takes.

Really, how many people have you known who have died through competitive bodybuilding in their 50s and beyond?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 12, 2020, 05:45:21 AM
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Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 12, 2020, 06:10:03 AM
Really, how many people have you known who have died through competitive bodybuilding in their 50s and beyond?

None... But that proves nothing.

I didnt state anyone would die. I do state however that to push the bbing lifestyle (really at any age) but certainly at older ages is less healthy than maintaining a normal bodyweight, not taking PEDs and eating normally.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 12, 2020, 07:13:46 AM
None... But that proves nothing.

I didnt state anyone would die. I do state however that to push the bbing lifestyle (really at any age) but certainly at older ages is less healthy than maintaining a normal bodyweight, not taking PEDs and eating normally.

but people die in their 40s and 50s all the time, they dont push a bodybuilding lifestyle, they just veat and drink in moderation and keel over any way..

Sure, anything you do could increase the chances of you dropping dead... why worry about it if you are doing what you want to do..
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2020, 08:13:00 AM
Yep^... If someone wants to juice up and compete in their 50's or whatever that's their choice.

We all know it is very unhealthy pushing hard at that age, but if that's what it takes for someone to have some purpose then that's what it takes.

What makes you say very unhealthy? I’m sure you & I can name a fair few things that are far worse
Yet millions & millions continually do them.
It probably gives them purpose also.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2020, 08:17:30 AM
This woman looks happy.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0608j7I7B-I/UWwhbQC1b4I/AAAAAAAAFwI/gT6Hr_A6K3Q/s1600/funny-fat-women-girls-people-obese-images-pics-photos-world-1.jpg)

Another happy heavy lady.  Has 20-inch arms too.

(https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1410999293/388/10514388.jpg)


Yes they do look Happy in them pics
Does it affect their quality of life - I don’t know - it likely affects their mobility & some things they likely can’t do. As There are Hundreds of Millions like them all over the World - I take it it’s clearly not that
Bad. - Though it’s Not for me - Just as being either Skinny or Muscular isn’t for Obese People.
Choice.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 12, 2020, 08:22:43 AM
but people die in their 40s and 50s all the time, they dont push a bodybuilding lifestyle, they just veat and drink in moderation and keel over any way..

Sure, anything you do could increase the chances of you dropping dead... why worry about it if you are doing what you want to do..

Exactly- Being Alive is the Biggest Risk Factor To Dieing.
Yes Many Many Things that us Humans do increase those risks - And as you stated there’s countless
People in their childhood ( My Daughter ) Teens / 20s / 30s / 40s that are very light & Low Body Fat
Yet Die. Enjoy Every day as if it’s your Last.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Straw Man on January 12, 2020, 08:58:39 AM
Had a TIA
about a year and half ago. Nothing since

Lee LaBrada is about 2” shorter than me

As far as the right to choose what I do with my body? There isn’t another life involved.

Isn't a TIA an early warning of the potential for a future stroke?

Labrada is reported to be 5'6"

How tall are you?

Regarding ones right to choose what to do with their own body, there always other lives involved in almost every decision we make in life.  Why would that matter? No one has the right to tell someone what to do with their body.  
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2020, 09:13:36 AM
For 20+ years prior to going into personal training full time I worked in the commercial roofing industry starting as an apprentice through foreman as a Journeyman, superintendent to consulting, designing and inspection. 95% of the work was built up roofing (hot tar) and very carcinogenic and in some jobs “pitch” was used which was twice as carcinogenic as regular bitumen (tar). It was so toxic when applying all parts of your body had to be covered including the face no matter what the weather was.

Point being, I worry (or at least think about) the latter effects of the work I did when I was younger bring exposed to tar, pitch, etc at that time than I do about training for bodybuilding. We have no cancers that run in either side of my family but the thought is always there. Make sense?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 12, 2020, 11:12:36 AM
For 20+ years prior to going into personal training full time I worked in the commercial roofing industry starting as an apprentice through foreman as a Journeyman, superintendent to consulting, designing and inspection. 95% of the work was built up roofing (hot tar) and very carcinogenic and in some jobs “pitch” was used which was twice as carcinogenic as regular bitumen (tar). It was so toxic when applying all parts of your body had to be covered including the face no matter what the weather was.

Point being, I worry (or at least think about) the latter effects of the work I did when I was younger bring exposed to tar, pitch, etc at that time than I do about training for bodybuilding. We have no cancers that run in either side of my family but the thought is always there. Make sense?

Yes.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2020, 04:25:33 PM
Yes, tell that to Dorian, Lee lebrada, Lee haney, etc...

They are all successful, in shape, and not chasing a dream to keep getting bigger as they age

Exactly. To each his own. Different dreams. BTW, Lee Labrada is still juicing hard and looks like he is four weeks out from stage ready condition. Gaspari too, but not as consistent as Lee.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 12, 2020, 04:39:48 PM
Yep^... If someone wants to juice up and compete in their 50's or whatever that's their choice.

We all know it is very unhealthy pushing hard at that age, but if that's what it takes for someone to have some purpose then that's what it takes.

The U.S. currently has a 78 year old recent heart attack victim and a 77 year old man suffering from dementia crisscrossing the country so they can lose an election to President Trump and no one seems to care.

I suppose a death on the election debate stage may garner a couple dozen sympathy votes.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 12, 2020, 06:32:00 PM
but people die in their 40s and 50s all the time, they dont push a bodybuilding lifestyle, they just veat and drink in moderation and keel over any way..

Sure, anything you do could increase the chances of you dropping dead... why worry about it if you are doing what you want to do..

^ this was exactly my point, if competing and pushing it later in life gives you drive and purpose you should do it, and not worry about what anyone else says...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 12, 2020, 06:45:14 PM
What makes you say very unhealthy? I’m sure you & I can name a fair few things that are far worse
Yet millions & millions continually do them.
It probably gives them purpose also.

I say very but it depends...

If you are living the lifestyle (including the drugs) and are taking precautions you minimise your risk.

Regular bloods mainly for hematocrit, keeping it within normal ranges,(give blood to control) taking baby asprin. Elevated hematocrit is a big risk factor for old body builders for heart attack and stroke. Monitoring blood pressure on a regular basis, taking medication to lower it. Taking a statin or supplements to make sure ldl is not really high, getting Hdl up is always gonna be tough, niacin can be effective. If guys don't do any of this they can be walking around like a time bomb with hematocrit and blood pressure through the roof none the wiser, young guys can get away with this but 50+ very risky stuff....

And yeah heaps of people are fat slobs and can be just as bad, it's all relative... But if there's two of you and one is 250 juiced to the max and the other is 180 living a "normal" lifestyle chances are much greater the heavy one drops of the perch first.

But as I said I don't have anything against going after it at any age, what anyone does with their body is their choice.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2020, 07:36:54 PM
I say very but it depends...

If you are living the lifestyle (including the drugs) and are taking precautions you minimise your risk.

Regular bloods mainly for hematocrit, keeping it within normal ranges,(give blood to control) taking baby asprin. Elevated hematocrit is a big risk factor for old body builders for heart attack and stroke. Monitoring blood pressure on a regular basis, taking medication to lower it. Taking a statin or supplements to make sure ldl is not really high, getting Hdl up is always gonna be tough, niacin can be effective. If guys don't do any of this they can be walking around like a time bomb with hematocrit and blood pressure through the roof none the wiser, young guys can get away with this but 50+ very risky stuff....

And yeah heaps of people are fat slobs and can be just as bad, it's all relative... But if there's two of you and one is 250 juiced to the max and the other is 180 living a "normal" lifestyle chances are much greater the heavy one drops of the perch first.

But as I said I don't have anything against going after it at any age, what anyone does with their body is their choice.

Agree with all of this except the statins. Avoid them if you can they cause all kinds of other problems the worse being rhabo.

Doc took me off and I switched to adding psyllium husk to my diet and haven’t had a problem.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 13, 2020, 01:06:29 AM
I say very but it depends...

If you are living the lifestyle (including the drugs) and are taking precautions you minimise your risk.

Regular bloods mainly for hematocrit, keeping it within normal ranges,(give blood to control) taking baby asprin. Elevated hematocrit is a big risk factor for old body builders for heart attack and stroke. Monitoring blood pressure on a regular basis, taking medication to lower it. Taking a statin or supplements to make sure ldl is not really high, getting Hdl up is always gonna be tough, niacin can be effective. If guys don't do any of this they can be walking around like a time bomb with hematocrit and blood pressure through the roof none the wiser, young guys can get away with this but 50+ very risky stuff....

And yeah heaps of people are fat slobs and can be just as bad, it's all relative... But if there's two of you and one is 250 juiced to the max and the other is 180 living a "normal" lifestyle chances are much greater the heavy one drops of the perch first.

But as I said I don't have anything against going after it at any age, what anyone does with their body is their choice.

I say Possibly & Opinions Vary - Though Not Denying There Could Be an Elvated Risk Factor.
All You Posted is Fine & Correct - Only Let Me ask You Genuinely- Are all The Patients in Hospital
From The Very Young to The Very Elderly that are Taking Steroids in Varying amounts From Low
Dosages To Very Large Dosages & Many For Very Many years if Not Most of Their Lives So Well
Monitored & Given all Necessary ancillaries??  
I’d Have to Guess NO they are Not - Unless a Problem Occurs,
Why would that be - Maybe Because Either they
1, They don’t care - Doubtfull. Or
2, The Risk Factors aren’t that Big.
My own Son was on a quite Large dosage of Steroids for around 10yrs & No ancillaries from a very
Young age into his Teens.
Though His Consultant was monitoring him well & was okay with speaking to me about such things.

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: karasan on January 13, 2020, 01:43:10 AM
For 20+ years prior to going into personal training full time I worked in the commercial roofing industry starting as an apprentice through foreman as a Journeyman, superintendent to consulting, designing and inspection. 95% of the work was built up roofing (hot tar) and very carcinogenic and in some jobs “pitch” was used which was twice as carcinogenic as regular bitumen (tar). It was so toxic when applying all parts of your body had to be covered including the face no matter what the weather was.

Point being, I worry (or at least think about) the latter effects of the work I did when I was younger bring exposed to tar, pitch, etc at that time than I do about training for bodybuilding. We have no cancers that run in either side of my family but the thought is always there. Make sense?
Now that's hardcore, I hope you will continue the family tradition on being cancer free, all the best to you Coach!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 13, 2020, 02:09:48 AM
I think Joe knowns what he's doing. There's a risk in everything we do, even trusting the polluted food industry, etc.
But some good points, just monitor the basics and do the things needed to correct anything suspect. Then after show is done, maybe cruise/TRT/clean out.

Family history and genetics are the number one things to look at. IF not much heart disease, then monitor as needed and be smart.
If lots of heart disease, I would recommend TRT only. Again, I'm sure he appreciated the concerns, many valid, but we have to live our lives
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 13, 2020, 03:49:26 AM
Agree with all of this except the statins. Avoid them if you can they cause all kinds of other problems the worse being rhabo.

Doc took me off and I switched to adding psyllium husk to my diet and haven’t had a problem.


(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/24c7b6b2-e7a9-4cf1-a824-13ebe614c281_1.cc80fef227c5b466142853bcc6930d4f.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 13, 2020, 04:00:15 AM
Agree with all of this except the statins. Avoid them if you can they cause all kinds of other problems the worse being rhabo.

Doc took me off and I switched to adding psyllium husk to my diet and haven’t had a problem.

Statins are OK for those who might really need them, and those numbers are fairly low, compared to how they are pushed on the public.
("Oh, you are at 210 total, time to get on statins") Uhmm, no, wrong.

If a family history of severe heart disease and very high LDL an Trig's (like myself), then yes, they are good.
(Cuts down on what could build up and turn to plaque, doesn't extend life to the average user).

Doesn't remove plaque that is already there. Really a drug that has benefits for a small group of people (again, compared to who are on them) and should not be taken unless severe history and very high levels.

(Get a calcium score done, get Lipopriten-A checked, C-Reactive protein, etc). Having a borderline high total and being put on a statin is reckless, and most Dr's and the industry are.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 13, 2020, 04:28:26 AM
Statins are OK for those who might really need them, and those numbers are fairly low, compared to how they are pushed on the public.
("Oh, you are at 210 total, time to get on statins") Uhmm, no, wrong.

If a family history of severe heart disease and very high LDL an Trig's (like myself), then yes, they are good.
(Cuts down on what could build up and turn to plaque, doesn't extend life to the average user).

Doesn't remove plaque that is already there. Really a drug that has benefits for a small group of people (again, compared to who are on them) and should not be taken unless severe history and very high levels.

(Get a calcium score done, get Lipopriten-A checked, C-Reactive protein, etc). Having a borderline high total and being put on a statin is reckless, and most Dr's and the industry are.

Agree 100% very true points
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 13, 2020, 04:37:02 AM
I say Possibly & Opinions Vary - Though Not Denying There Could Be an Elvated Risk Factor.
All You Posted is Fine & Correct - Only Let Me ask You Genuinely- Are all The Patients in Hospital
From The Very Young to The Very Elderly that are Taking Steroids in Varying amounts From Low
Dosages To Very Large Dosages & Many For Very Many years if Not Most of Their Lives So Well
Monitored & Given all Necessary ancillaries??  
I’d Have to Guess NO they are Not - Unless a Problem Occurs,
Why would that be - Maybe Because Either they
1, They don’t care - Doubtfull. Or
2, The Risk Factors aren’t that Big.
My own Son was on a quite Large dosage of Steroids for around 10yrs & No ancillaries from a very
Young age into his Teens.
Though His Consultant was monitoring him well & was okay with speaking to me about such things.



No of course most don't do these things, it doesn't mean anything bad will happen, most of the time most people will be fine. I say those precautions can be done to minimise the risk, especially when older and still juicing.

When your still young you can run whatever and 99% of guys won't have an issue, how many of us were juicing hard in our twenties, I used for years straight, up to 2500 mgs a week, the body takes it better at that age... Like with all disease risk increases with age and doing certain things re lifestyle can enhance risk.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 13, 2020, 04:41:27 AM
I say Possibly & Opinions Vary - Though Not Denying There Could Be an Elvated Risk Factor.
All You Posted is Fine & Correct - Only Let Me ask You Genuinely- Are all The Patients in Hospital
From The Very Young to The Very Elderly that are Taking Steroids in Varying amounts From Low
Dosages To Very Large Dosages & Many For Very Many years if Not Most of Their Lives So Well
Monitored & Given all Necessary ancillaries??  
I’d Have to Guess NO they are Not - Unless a Problem Occurs,
Why would that be - Maybe Because Either they
1, They don’t care - Doubtfull. Or
2, The Risk Factors aren’t that Big.
My own Son was on a quite Large dosage of Steroids for around 10yrs & No ancillaries from a very
Young age into his Teens.
Though His Consultant was monitoring him well & was okay with speaking to me about such things.



Interesting.  Your son was on high dosages of anabolic steroids from a very young age into his teens?

From what age?

Was this for bodybuilding purposes or for other health issues?

How tall is your son?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JAGO on January 13, 2020, 05:12:09 AM
I say very but it depends...

If you are living the lifestyle (including the drugs) and are taking precautions you minimise your risk.

Regular bloods mainly for hematocrit, keeping it within normal ranges,(give blood to control) taking baby asprin. Elevated hematocrit is a big risk factor for old body builders for heart attack and stroke. Monitoring blood pressure on a regular basis, taking medication to lower it. Taking a statin or supplements to make sure ldl is not really high, getting Hdl up is always gonna be tough, niacin can be effective. If guys don't do any of this they can be walking around like a time bomb with hematocrit and blood pressure through the roof none the wiser, young guys can get away with this but 50+ very risky stuff....

And yeah heaps of people are fat slobs and can be just as bad, it's all relative... But if there's two of you and one is 250 juiced to the max and the other is 180 living a "normal" lifestyle chances are much greater the heavy one drops of the perch first.

But as I said I don't have anything against going after it at any age, what anyone does with their body is their choice.

This is accurate - Dec 23rd I was rushed to the hospital BP shot to 250 or 170 ( something.) I take 200 mgs of a blended test and NOTHING else ( vitamins not included.)  I train 4 days a week and eat a plant based diet and run every day.  My red blood cell count was so high, my heart was having a hard time pumping it - blood thinners  and 6 days in emergency. Had I been taking BP medication ( as I should have ) I’d have been fine - but I paid it no mind. Biggest mistake of my life.

J
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 13, 2020, 07:17:04 AM
No of course most don't do these things, it doesn't mean anything bad will happen, most of the time most people will be fine. I say those precautions can be done to minimise the risk, especially when older and still juicing.

When your still young you can run whatever and 99% of guys won't have an issue, how many of us were juicing hard in our twenties, I used for years straight, up to 2500 mgs a week, the body takes it better at that age... Like with all disease risk increases with age and doing certain things re lifestyle can enhance risk.


Thank You. 👍🏻
Glad You Accept My Points
So No it isn’t that HIGH RISK.

That isn’t to say some won’t suffer as per Jago posted above.
Hope you doing good now.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 13, 2020, 07:24:07 AM
Interesting.  Your son was on high dosages of anabolic steroids from a very young age into his teens?

From what age?

Was this for bodybuilding purposes or for other health issues?

How tall is your son?

Are You Being Facetious ? Or You just Daft ?
I Thought Better of You.

Why would my son from a young age be under the care of a specialist medical consultant
If He was Bodybuilding 🙄🙄 & Given Steroids. Do you really think that from age of 3 he’d
Chose to take steroids & bodybuild & the Hospital & Consultant would be Party to That.
Jeez FFS some people on here. 🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2020, 07:47:26 AM
This is accurate - Dec 23rd I was rushed to the hospital BP shot to 250 or 170 ( something.) I take 200 mgs of a blended test and NOTHING else ( vitamins not included.)  I train 4 days a week and eat a plant based diet and run every day.  My red blood cell count was so high, my heart was having a hard time pumping it - blood thinners  and 6 days in emergency. Had I been taking BP medication ( as I should have ) I’d have been fine - but I paid it no mind. Biggest mistake of my life.

J

I hope you are having your hematocrit checked on a regular basis now.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 13, 2020, 09:31:16 AM
Are You Being Facetious ? Or You just Daft ?
I Thought Better of You.

Why would my son from a young age be under the care of a specialist medical consultant
If He was Bodybuilding 🙄🙄 & Given Steroids. Do you really think that from age of 3 he’d
Chose to take steroids & bodybuild & the Hospital & Consultant would be Party to That.
Jeez FFS some people on here. 🙄🙄🙄

Typical Getbigger children...

(http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Muscle-Boy-276.jpg)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 13, 2020, 10:35:27 AM
Typical Getbigger children...

(http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Muscle-Boy-276.jpg)

Bigger than Matt Canning
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 13, 2020, 01:11:31 PM
Typical Getbigger children...

(http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Muscle-Boy-276.jpg)

Maybe your Kid -  looks great.

Though you avoided answering any of the questions.
So I’ll take it You we’re just being Silly. 🤣👍🏻
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Henda on January 13, 2020, 02:08:14 PM
Bigger than Matt Canning
Height or muscle mass?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 13, 2020, 02:16:57 PM
Height or muscle mass?

Both.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 13, 2020, 04:38:52 PM
You’ve managed to avoid the questions - And you asked the questions of Me.
You very clearly Dug yourself into a hole & aren’t able to get out of it.

Sounds like you are vacuous & bitter & No common sense in answering
I most certainly don’t fear for your health - possibly your mental state.

So what’s wrong with being 175-180 in very good shape, as opposed to being 235+ at 5’6? No one said to stop working out. The whole point is when you get older, one has to be smarter in their approaches

Sure, the whole people are going to die at 40, 50, of anything. I am not denying that, but taking things into consideration, and In what you can control, weighting that much at your height isn’t smart, but yes, people will do whatever they choose.

Questioning my mental state yet you are 5’6!!!!! And 60 yrs old that is looking to weigh more than 235!!! Haha sounds like I struck a nerve with you
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 13, 2020, 04:46:59 PM
Exactly. To each his own. Different dreams. BTW, Lee Labrada is still juicing hard and looks like he is four weeks out from stage ready condition. Gaspari too, but not as consistent as Lee.

Might be, might not. We don’t know if he’s still juicing hard or not

With his genetics I wouldn’t be surprised
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Matt on January 13, 2020, 05:03:06 PM
Height or muscle mass?

Muscle mass.

Is that a real kid?

I'm reminded of "Little Hercules".
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 13, 2020, 05:59:42 PM

Thank You. 👍🏻
Glad You Accept My Points
So No it isn’t that HIGH RISK.

That isn’t to say some won’t suffer as per Jago posted above.
Hope you doing good now.

 I generally agree with you but you can't say the hardcore bbing lifestyle isn't high risk, every individual is different has different genetic predispositions.

What I say again is that if you are above a certain age and don't take precautions to minimise the risk, there is no way of knowing if you are a ticking time bomb and could be VERY high risk..... Most will not be in this group but some will and some do die because of this, just because I don't know any specifically doesn't mean this does not happen.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 13, 2020, 10:22:03 PM
Might be, might not. We don’t know if he’s still juicing hard or not

With his genetics I wouldn’t be surprised

Like many things in life, we don't know for sure, but we can examine the evidence and make reasonable assumptions. No matter what your genetics, not many 59 year olds look like this naturally or enhanced.

(https://www.labrada.com/siteAssets/images/gallery_lee_14_big.jpg)
(https://www.labrada.com/siteAssets/images/gallery_lee_1_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 13, 2020, 10:32:10 PM
Like many things in life, we don't know for sure, but we can examine the evidence and make reasonable assumptions. No matter what your genetics, not many 59 year olds look like this naturally or enhanced.

(https://www.labrada.com/siteAssets/images/gallery_lee_14_big.jpg)
(https://www.labrada.com/siteAssets/images/gallery_lee_1_big.jpg)

Looks awesome here!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2020, 02:26:18 AM
So what’s wrong with being 175-180 in very good shape, as opposed to being 235+ at 5’6? No one said to stop working out. The whole point is when you get older, one has to be smarter in their approaches

Sure, the whole people are going to die at 40, 50, of anything. I am not denying that, but taking things into consideration, and In what you can control, weighting that much at your height isn’t smart, but yes, people will do whatever they choose.

Questioning my mental state yet you are 5’6!!!!! And 60 yrs old that is looking to weigh more than 235!!! Haha sounds like I struck a nerve with you


Ha ha ha 🤣😂🤣 Retard It’s You That had a Nerve Struck as it was you that respond to my stats & Post in the 1st place. 🙄🙄 - Being High & mighty & Derogatory.

Nowt wrong with being 170-180 if that’s what you want & choose Good for you.
At 59yrs of Age there are many risks to life - Every Passing Day Being a very Significant one / My Job / & Travelling Thousands of Miles a year in My Car.

Is Best you Not Keep Replying To my Posts as Your Ignorance & Stupidity Shines Through every Time You Respond.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 14, 2020, 02:54:29 AM
This is accurate - Dec 23rd I was rushed to the hospital BP shot to 250 or 170 ( something.) I take 200 mgs of a blended test and NOTHING else ( vitamins not included.)  I train 4 days a week and eat a plant based diet and run every day.  My red blood cell count was so high, my heart was having a hard time pumping it - blood thinners  and 6 days in emergency. Had I been taking BP medication ( as I should have ) I’d have been fine - but I paid it no mind. Biggest mistake of my life.

J

JAGO, hopefully you are doing much better? Do you have a family history of blood pressure/cardiac issues? Does Dr. know about the test usage?
If so, what does he/she think about that?

Being on Test, do you do quarterly bloods to monitor yourself? If not, you may want to, good way to monitor hematocrit. PrivateMDlabs.com (and others) can be done for a fairly cheap cost.
(Most people get the female panel done as its cheaper, gives you all the needed markers, etc).

Even with taking care of ourselves, genetics rule and its tough sometimes to outwork/out-eat genetics. Shits just gonna happen.

Take care..
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 14, 2020, 04:51:03 AM
This is accurate - Dec 23rd I was rushed to the hospital BP shot to 250 or 170 ( something.) I take 200 mgs of a blended test and NOTHING else ( vitamins not included.)  I train 4 days a week and eat a plant based diet and run every day.  My red blood cell count was so high, my heart was having a hard time pumping it - blood thinners  and 6 days in emergency. Had I been taking BP medication ( as I should have ) I’d have been fine - but I paid it no mind. Biggest mistake of my life.

J

They say steroids thicken the blood into sludge.

You had a close call.

What lesson did you learn?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 14, 2020, 05:17:56 AM
They say steroids thicken the blood into sludge.

You had a close call.

What lesson did you learn?
they increase your red blood cell count
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on January 14, 2020, 01:47:45 PM
99% of people would find it impossinble toi get fat like that, his fat distribution is spread all over his body, most men will just get a gut and a fat back if they overate to that extent.

I have ab and back fat at the moment but my legs are pretty cut up

Got any posing pics of yourself champ?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 14, 2020, 01:50:36 PM
Got any posing pics of yourself champ?
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 14, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)
Looking good man ^^  8)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Henda on January 14, 2020, 02:00:35 PM
Both.

Do you think he could beat the kid up if it came down to it?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on January 14, 2020, 02:04:50 PM
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)

Random pic from the internet  ::)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Rascal full on January 14, 2020, 02:16:03 PM
Random pic from the internet  ::)

No mate, he is genuine
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2020, 02:16:17 PM
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)

Look great.  :)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on January 14, 2020, 02:27:40 PM
No mate, he is genuine

I know just busting his shrivelled old balls
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 14, 2020, 03:52:58 PM
I know just busting his shrivelled old balls

Now, how about you posting a pic, "Champ"?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 14, 2020, 04:42:20 PM

Ha ha ha 🤣😂🤣 Retard It’s You That had a Nerve Struck as it was you that respond to my stats & Post in the 1st place. 🙄🙄 - Being High & mighty & Derogatory.

Nowt wrong with being 170-180 if that’s what you want & choose Good for you.
At 59yrs of Age there are many risks to life - Every Passing Day Being a very Significant one / My Job / & Travelling Thousands of Miles a year in My Car.

Is Best you Not Keep Replying To my Posts as Your Ignorance & Stupidity Shines Through every Time You Respond.

The jokes on you for being 5’6 and angry,  never once did I call you a retard or any personal attacks, why the hostility? I did indeed struck a nerve

Don’t seem to be so mature for being 59, at least the coach is civil and respond in a civil matter

There’s many risks, yes, but many are out of your control, that’s the whole point, you HAVE control in the least, in your weight. After that, let the chips fall into place

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 14, 2020, 10:03:47 PM
The jokes on you for being 5’6 and angry,  never once did I call you a retard or any personal attacks, why the hostility? I did indeed struck a nerve

Don’t seem to be so mature for being 59, at least the coach is civil and respond in a civil matter

There’s many risks, yes, but many are out of your control, that’s the whole point, you HAVE control in the least, in your weight. After that, let the chips fall into place



Fuck off - Retard - I can & will Respond just how the Fuck I like - Snowflake

You go live your safe measured / Totally Risk Free life for as Long as you’ve got on this Planet
And I’ll live My High Risk Life For The Few Short yrs I’ve got Left.

Try not to Think I’m Angry or Bothered -it’s not doing your blood pressure any good & Thats
A Risk you don’t want to Take.

It’s an Internet Forum - You take it Far To Seriously.
Ease up & Relax - Stressing about Me & My Posts is Yet Another High Risk For you
And you Don’t Want any of That.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 14, 2020, 10:05:16 PM
Fuck off - Retard - I can & will Respond just how the Fuck I like - Snowflake

You go live your safe measured / Totally Risk Free life for as Long as you’ve got on this Planet
And I’ll live My High Risk Life For The Few Short yrs I’ve got Left.

Try not to Think I’m Angry or Bothered -it’s not doing your blood pressure any good & Thats
A Risk you don’t want to Take.

It’s an Internet Forum - You take it Far To Seriously.
Ease up & Relax - Stressing about Me & My Posts is Yet Another High Risk For you
And you Don’t Want any of That.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Probably time for you to modulate your internet usage.  You are getting way too worked up.  ^Epic Meltdown^
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: sarcafago on January 14, 2020, 10:34:33 PM
They say steroids thicken the blood into sludge.

You had a close call.

What lesson did you learn?

It’s genetic. A friend of mine is prescribed 200mg test cyp a week and has to do double reds when he donates blood. This isn’t the norm...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 15, 2020, 12:09:10 AM
Probably time for you to modulate your internet usage.  You are getting way too worked up.  ^Epic Meltdown^

Wish someone would keep you off the Internet.
Fuck off - You Muslime Man / Goat Fucker just as well you live in safe tolerant America
Or you’d be Having a Free Flying Lesson.

Enough of Dealing with Pig Shit Like You.
Back to Ignoring Scumbag Peadophile Queer Muslime Idiots.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 15, 2020, 12:39:05 AM
Wish someone would keep you off the Internet.
Fuck off - You Muslime Man / Goat Fucker just as well you live in safe tolerant America
Or you’d be Having a Free Flying Lesson.

Enough of Dealing with Pig Shit Like You.
Back to Ignoring Scumbag Peadophile Queer Muslime Idiots.

You keep repeating yourself yet cannot seem to quit me.  ^self loathing homosexual detected^
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 15, 2020, 12:59:09 AM

There are some posters Better Ignored as they are like Bad Paki Muslime Smell That just Lingers.
And they won’t go Blow Themselves Up or Fuck off To Paki land & Claim there Free Flying Lesson
For Being a Cock Lover.

Ahh well the Joys of Getbig. The site that just keeps on Giving.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 15, 2020, 01:20:03 AM
It’s genetic. A friend of mine is prescribed 200mg test cyp a week and has to do double reds when he donates blood. This isn’t the norm...

This ^^

Some people have certain things they are sensitive to when adding in hormones. Reading some of the boards, even real TRT (75-100 mg) throws some people hematocrit way off.
Many can take 750-1000mg and not even move the needle on it. (Or on lipids, etc).
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: SF1900 on January 15, 2020, 01:49:38 AM
Probably time for you to modulate your internet usage.  You are getting way too worked up.  ^Epic Meltdown^

Bevo is causing a lot of meltdowns in this thread.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 15, 2020, 02:54:31 AM
Fuck off - Retard - I can & will Respond just how the Fuck I like - Snowflake

You go live your safe measured / Totally Risk Free life for as Long as you’ve got on this Planet
And I’ll live My High Risk Life For The Few Short yrs I’ve got Left.

Try not to Think I’m Angry or Bothered -it’s not doing your blood pressure any good & Thats
A Risk you don’t want to Take.

It’s an Internet Forum - You take it Far To Seriously.
Ease up & Relax - Stressing about Me & My Posts is Yet Another High Risk For you
And you Don’t Want any of That.

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


I suggest you double your dosages and go for 292.75 pounds

High risk or no risk at all, right? Might as well go out on top and be big as fuck!!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 15, 2020, 03:42:40 AM
It’s genetic. A friend of mine is prescribed 200mg test cyp a week and has to do double reds when he donates blood. This isn’t the norm...

That sucks.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 15, 2020, 03:59:23 AM
It’s genetic. A friend of mine is prescribed 200mg test cyp a week and has to do double reds when he donates blood. This isn’t the norm...

That’s as you say not the Norm - otherwise is he okay & Benefiting From His Test shots?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: rocket on January 15, 2020, 05:13:16 AM
What on earth are you using to randomly capitalise certain words with no real logical basis?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 15, 2020, 05:16:07 AM
Bevo is causing a lot of meltdowns in this thread.

Meltdowns of Peace...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 15, 2020, 06:19:14 AM
What on earth are you using to randomly capitalise certain words with no real logical basis?

An iPad - So You know it’s Me Posting - 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Ohh & Because I choose To. 😂🤣😂

👍🏻✊🏻
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 15, 2020, 09:10:23 AM
How tall is Clarida? Heard him say on Ron & Dusty's podcast he cant even reach 200 lbs in off-season.

Strong little dude too.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2020, 09:20:26 AM
How tall is Clarida? Heard him say on Ron & Dusty's podcast he cant even reach 200 lbs in off-season.

Strong little dude too.
I THINK 5'3 5'4..GOOD MUSCLE QUALITY
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: SF1900 on January 15, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)

He looks like a gloriously youthful person who is so visually striking that if you saw him in person, you'd be blown away. His features appear to be almost perfectly symmetrical and proportional. He's a white  man with pale blue/green eyes and light flawless skin. He's masculine in terms of his facial structure and physical build. The only flaw I see is that he is too perfect, which sometimes translates to being pretty...a term best saved for females.

Being handsome is great. But, it isn't enough. What else does he have going on? Does he have substance? Is he intelligent? Is he interesting? Does he have a good sense of humor? Is he compassionate? Is he romantic? Is he a winner? Is he sexual?

I've met people who were so beautiful or handsome that at first that's all you saw about them. Once they started talking and you looked deeper, you were let down because you realized their good looks were all there was positive about them. They were just a beautiful storefront on an outhouse. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

For his sake, I hope he's got more going for himself than just how well he photographs.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: sarcafago on January 15, 2020, 11:10:21 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=470380.0;attach=570800;image)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/2412ee3c0b11ecdbb9395e9f9988f591/tumblr_q45x6zveli1ytsttzo1_400.gifv)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Taffin on January 15, 2020, 11:31:29 AM
Got any posing pics of yourself champ?

So where the f**k have you been for 2 years?  Prison?





(Welcome back  ;D)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 15, 2020, 11:35:42 AM
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)

Looking great joswift !!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 15, 2020, 02:53:10 PM
He looks like a gloriously youthful person who is so visually striking that if you saw him in person, you'd be blown away. His features appear to be almost perfectly symmetrical and proportional. He's a white  man with pale blue/green eyes and light flawless skin. He's masculine in terms of his facial structure and physical build. The only flaw I see is that he is too perfect, which sometimes translates to being pretty...a term best saved for females.

Being handsome is great. But, it isn't enough. What else does he have going on? Does he have substance? Is he intelligent? Is he interesting? Does he have a good sense of humor? Is he compassionate? Is he romantic? Is he a winner? Is he sexual?

I've met people who were so beautiful or handsome that at first that's all you saw about them. Once they started talking and you looked deeper, you were let down because you realized their good looks were all there was positive about them. They were just a beautiful storefront on an outhouse. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

For his sake, I hope he's got more going for himself than just how well he photographs.

LOL! Priceless!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 15, 2020, 03:05:03 PM
I THINK 5'3 5'4..GOOD MUSCLE QUALITY

Isn’t he 4’11 or 5 ft?? I remember hearing he’s one of the shortest bbers
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 15, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
He looks like a gloriously youthful person who is so visually striking that if you saw him in person, you'd be blown away. His features appear to be almost perfectly symmetrical and proportional. He's a white  man with pale blue/green eyes and light flawless skin. He's masculine in terms of his facial structure and physical build. The only flaw I see is that he is too perfect, which sometimes translates to being pretty...a term best saved for females.

Being handsome is great. But, it isn't enough. What else does he have going on? Does he have substance? Is he intelligent? Is he interesting? Does he have a good sense of humor? Is he compassionate? Is he romantic? Is he a winner? Is he sexual?

I've met people who were so beautiful or handsome that at first that's all you saw about them. Once they started talking and you looked deeper, you were let down because you realized their good looks were all there was positive about them. They were just a beautiful storefront on an outhouse. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

For his sake, I hope he's got more going for himself than just how well he photographs.

Please tell me more
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 15, 2020, 03:10:53 PM
Isn’t he 4’11 or 5 ft?? I remember hearing he’s one of the shortest bbers

Damn I thought coach was taller
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 15, 2020, 03:52:45 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=660579.0;attach=784247;image)

his physique reminds me of this guy..
(https://cdn-ami-drupal.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/flex/media/2015%20Article%20Content/2015%20Olympia%20Weekend/212%20Bodybuilding%20-%202015%20Olympia/212%20Individual%20Athletes%20-%202015%20Olympia/Kevin%20English%20-%202015%20Olympia/_PB20326_1.jpg?itok=cS333raF)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Bevo on January 16, 2020, 01:24:48 AM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=660579.0;attach=784247;image)

his physique reminds me of this guy..
(https://cdn-ami-drupal.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/flex/media/2015%20Article%20Content/2015%20Olympia%20Weekend/212%20Bodybuilding%20-%202015%20Olympia/212%20Individual%20Athletes%20-%202015%20Olympia/Kevin%20English%20-%202015%20Olympia/_PB20326_1.jpg?itok=cS333raF)

To think that physique was winning shows.... politics
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 16, 2020, 02:55:22 AM
To think that physique was winning shows.... politics

Yukk, Clarida looks much better than that horror show. ???
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: SF1900 on January 16, 2020, 04:16:42 AM
Please tell me more

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 16, 2020, 09:51:20 AM
99% of people would find it impossinble toi get fat like that, his fat distribution is spread all over his body, most men will just get a gut and a fat back if they overate to that extent.

I have ab and back fat at the moment but my legs are pretty cut up

That kinda look is common among a lot of off-season 90s pros

I figured it was just off-season bloat
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 16, 2020, 10:16:01 AM
That kinda look is common among a lot of off-season 90s pros

I figured it was just off-season bloat
I know, that proves my point about it being genetic...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 17, 2020, 01:20:34 PM
To think that physique was winning shows.... politics
A Steve Weinberger boy.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: rocket on January 18, 2020, 08:43:25 PM
An iPad - So You know it’s Me Posting - 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Ohh & Because I choose To. 😂🤣😂

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Whenever I read it, no joke - in my head, I hear bobcat goldthwait. 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: m8 on January 18, 2020, 09:13:55 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=660579.0;attach=784247;image)

his physique reminds me of this guy..
(https://cdn-ami-drupal.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/styles/full_node_image_1090x614/public/flex/media/2015%20Article%20Content/2015%20Olympia%20Weekend/212%20Bodybuilding%20-%202015%20Olympia/212%20Individual%20Athletes%20-%202015%20Olympia/Kevin%20English%20-%202015%20Olympia/_PB20326_1.jpg?itok=cS333raF)

genetics of peace
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 18, 2020, 09:39:14 PM
Whenever I read it, no joke - in my head, I hear bobcat goldthwait. 

I’ve no idea who or what bobcat goldthwait is - 🤔  I’ll google it.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Kwon on January 18, 2020, 11:01:31 PM
Whenever I read it, no joke - in my head, I hear bobcat goldthwait.  

That’s as you say not the Norm - otherwise is he okay & Benefiting From His Test shots?



What percentage of the PPV buys do you think Connor gets. At 10% and 2 million buys that will get him another 10 million. Insane for an MMA fighter.

When people complain that MMA fighters are underpaid they don't understand economics.
The buyer always wants to pay the least amount possible. The seller (the fighter) wants as much as possible. Each gets what they can get. If the fighter could get more then the UFC pays them elsewhere then they would go there. They can't. If you can bring in the numbers that Connor brings in then you will be making the big bucks.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on January 19, 2020, 08:08:21 AM
That’s as you say not the Norm - otherwise is he okay & Benefiting From His Test shots?



What percentage of the PPV buys do you think Connor gets. At 10% and 2 million buys that will get him another 10 million. Insane for an MMA fighter.

When people complain that MMA fighters are underpaid they don't understand economics.
The buyer always wants to pay the least amount possible. The seller (the fighter) wants as much as possible. Each gets what they can get. If the fighter could get more then the UFC pays them elsewhere then they would go there. They can't. If you can bring in the numbers that Connor brings in then you will be making the big bucks.

It seems that you are the one who doesnt understand economics if you think market forces are what are depressing the wages of MMA fighters
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 19, 2020, 10:31:59 AM
It seems that you are the one who doesnt understand economics if you think market forces are what are depressing the wages of MMA fighters

The company who owns the ufc has a ton of debt cancelled a ipo due to lack of interest from investors
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on January 19, 2020, 10:47:38 AM
So where the f**k have you been for 2 years?  Prison?





(Welcome back  ;D)

Hey Taffffmymann..
My main account got banned somehow by onemorerep. Must have been at least year ago or more. Needless to say I did not recover from that at all! Kicking dogs, cats and totlers at random while walking down the street and such. On top of that I could not remember the accoutnames and/or passwords for any of my former numerous beautiful and witty accounts. I tried new registrations but they never came trough. Dark clouds kept forming. But on one glorious morning not so long ago I woke up and remembered the password for this account. A positive thing is that because all of a sudden I had extra time on my hands I started training again and I have been going strong for a full year 6 days a week. Got a little huge again in my old years, yes Sir I did.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Taffin on January 19, 2020, 11:24:54 AM
Hey Taffffmymann..
My main account got banned somehow by onemorerep. Must have been at least year ago or more. Needless to say I did not recover from that at all! Kicking dogs, cats and totlers at random while walking down the street and such. On top of that I could not remember the accoutnames and/or passwords for any of my former numerous beautiful and witty accounts. I tried new registrations but they never came trough. Dark clouds kept forming. But on one glorious morning not so long ago I woke up and remembered the password for this account. A positive thing is that because all of a sudden I had extra time on my hands I started training again and I have been going strong for a full year 6 days a week. Got a little huge again in my old years, yes Sir I did.

Absolutely fantastic - I am genuinely very happy for you  :D

How is Octavia..?  ;)
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: DanielPaul on January 19, 2020, 11:35:51 AM
(https://serving.photos.photobox.com/35421089966978a92947a5550757c72bb6b1c1899dd0c1117cfecda4208b5fa35b338fb6.jpg)
pretty impressive, care to share diet and exercise routine when you have time please
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 19, 2020, 11:50:48 AM
pretty impressive, care to share diet and exercise routine when you have time please
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=624669.0
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=642239.0
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=632077.0

some threads when I prepped
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 19, 2020, 01:38:34 PM
Update...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7fLMcKJ7QP/?igshid=1h5a0ncu7iwem


Joswift...great physique!!!!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2020, 01:51:32 PM
I know a guy doing Pittsburgh show masters ,turned pro yrs ago masters,class,,he’s 225 maybe a bit taller than you,I can’t imagine you have another 20 on him wght wise
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 19, 2020, 02:19:24 PM
Update...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7fLMcKJ7QP/?igshid=1h5a0ncu7iwem


Joswift...great physique!!!!
cheers Coach...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 19, 2020, 02:22:28 PM
I know a guy doing Pittsburgh show masters ,turned pro yrs ago masters,class,,he’s 225 maybe a bit taller than you,I can’t imagine you have another 20 on him wght wise

Is that his off-season weight?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2020, 02:26:34 PM
Is that his off-season weight?
Usually,he gets under 200 onstage
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 20, 2020, 04:53:02 AM
Usually,he gets under 200 onstage

nj would you balloon up to 250 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 20, 2020, 05:04:07 AM
Update...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7fLMcKJ7QP/?igshid=1h5a0ncu7iwem



Coach,

Is it cold in that gym?  You wear lots of clothes and even a hat.

I thought Cali was warm.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 20, 2020, 05:13:37 AM
Is that his off-season weight?

Just watched the hamstring video you posted. Good insight man!

Had a question in the last back video, that first exercise is one I hate doing. Is that a staple movement for building back? I’ve gotten a little less hardcore even with deads now I just do the rack deads.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on January 20, 2020, 07:38:46 AM
Absolutely fantastic - I am genuinely very happy for you  :D

How is Octavia..?  ;)

Octavia company car is still going strong  ;D
But..... I managed to temporary brake it last year by slamming in to the worlds toughest concrete side curb. This left me stranded with my wife and to many kids in outback France. Catabolic stress for an entire week  :-X

Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 20, 2020, 12:24:29 PM
212 Olympia Winner Kamal Goes up to around 230lb - Starts his Prep From Now.
Gets a bit Smoother- That’s relative as he’s still in Good Condition - Just looks
Stupidly big round & Full.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: pellius on January 20, 2020, 03:07:00 PM
Just watched the hamstring video you posted. Good insight man!

Had a question in the last back video, that first exercise is one I hate doing. Is that a staple movement for building back? I’ve gotten a little less hardcore even with deads now I just do the rack deads.

Where are these vids posted?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2020, 12:18:39 AM
Coach,

Is it cold in that gym?  You wear lots of clothes and even a hat.

I thought Cali was warm.

For me it was really cold. Had the hoodie off for awhile but it got cold. Remember, Golds is a big warehouse with big bay doors.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2020, 12:21:10 AM
Just watched the hamstring video you posted. Good insight man!

Had a question in the last back video, that first exercise is one I hate doing. Is that a staple movement for building back? I’ve gotten a little less hardcore even with deads now I just do the rack deads.

The majority of my back workouts is from rowing with one pull-up or one pulldown movement. Rack dead’s are also a staple
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: dave19 on January 21, 2020, 03:23:38 AM
230 at your height is massive. What do you plan on weighing on stage?

I'm dieting right now... got up to 232 which was the heaviest I've ever been. Down to 203 right now and planning to go down to 190 and will probably end up around 195 once I start eating more carbs again. Feeling so much better right now and that is at 5'11“. Currently no intentions of ever going up in weight that much. I'd be satisfied with adding another 4-5lbs of lean muscle over the next year or two and I guess I should be able to do this without going crazy on a bulk.

Have you ever tried a lean bulk? How much do you think this bulk gave you in terms of actual muscle?

You feel so much better in so many ways when not overeating and weighing less... yet I still did those crazy bulks for almost 20 years until I've realized this. It also seems that I simply don't gain that much actual muscle anyway, mostly just bloat, a bit of fat, bit of muscle..

Good luck with your prep!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2020, 10:04:41 AM
230 at your height is massive. What do you plan on weighing on stage?

I'm dieting right now... got up to 232 which was the heaviest I've ever been. Down to 203 right now and planning to go down to 190 and will probably end up around 195 once I start eating more carbs again. Feeling so much better right now and that is at 5'11“. Currently no intentions of ever going up in weight that much. I'd be satisfied with adding another 4-5lbs of lean muscle over the next year or two and I guess I should be able to do this without going crazy on a bulk.

Have you ever tried a lean bulk? How much do you think this bulk gave you in terms of actual muscle?

You feel so much better in so many ways when not overeating and weighing less... yet I still did those crazy bulks for almost 20 years until I've realized this. It also seems that I simply don't gain that much actual muscle anyway, mostly just bloat, a bit of fat, bit of muscle..

Good luck with your prep!

You mentioned your height in relation to your weight. Most people do that. Even medical charts are based on height and weight. But, isn't there more aspects involved in how much weight one can carry successfully? For example, there are three body types; ectomorph, endomorph and mezomorph? What about age related height loss due to spinal compression? I used to be 71 1/2" tall. Today, I am maybe 69 1/2". That 2" loss in torso height, changes my proportions which also could affect how much weight I can carry. The military includes one's neck measurement to help determine acceptable weight. 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 21, 2020, 10:25:25 AM
Where are these vids posted?

I was creeping on his Instagram  :P
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 21, 2020, 10:29:36 AM
The majority of my back workouts is from rowing with one pull-up or one pulldown movement. Rack dead’s are also a staple
Ya I should start incorporating those again. They seem relatively safe from injuries
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 21, 2020, 10:31:52 AM
You mentioned your height in relation to your weight. Most people do that. Even medical charts are based on height and weight. But, isn't there more aspects involved in how much weight one can carry successfully? For example, there are three body types; ectomorph, endomorph and mezomorph? What about age related height loss due to spinal compression? I used to be 71 1/2" tall. Today, I am maybe 69 1/2". That 2" loss in torso height, changes my proportions which also could affect how much weight I can carry. The military includes one's neck measurement to help determine acceptable weight. 

The BMI charts as used seem to be wildly inaccurate/ not representative.
Or maybe they are saying that body weight no matter how it’s comprised of is Dangerous
To Health if it’s above there limits.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: ilalin on January 21, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
Hey Coach is Back!


I hope you die soon bitch
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: illuminati on January 21, 2020, 01:28:20 PM
Hey Coach is Back!


I hope you die soon bitch


That’s not very Nice
Why would you say that ?
Why do you dislike him so ?

Personally I wish him well in all endeavours.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: dave19 on January 21, 2020, 02:05:06 PM
You mentioned your height in relation to your weight. Most people do that. Even medical charts are based on height and weight. But, isn't there more aspects involved in how much weight one can carry successfully? For example, there are three body types; ectomorph, endomorph and mezomorph? What about age related height loss due to spinal compression? I used to be 71 1/2" tall. Today, I am maybe 69 1/2". That 2" loss in torso height, changes my proportions which also could affect how much weight I can carry. The military includes one's neck measurement to help determine acceptable weight. 

Yeah I guess you are correct, there are most likely other factors like bone structure, cardiovascular system and so on. I guess height is just the most important factor.

And of course height to weight ratio does not say anything about your body composition. You can have a higher BMI while still being healthier because you are carrying relatively more muscle mass than someone else who is just fat with lower BMI. But I do think (not 100% sure though) that there are numerous studies linking excess body weight to shorter lifespans no matter what that weight comes from and I do believe that is true ... in general everything above one's individual "perfect" weight is probably unhealthy and will shorten your life... your heart has to work much harder, you have to eat more food which needs to be digested and so on. Most people who live a very long and healthy life are pretty light.

I guess though that as long as you don't get over let's say around 12-15% bodyfat and stay natural you are probably not going to exceed your "healthy" weight anyway.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Conservative Coach on January 21, 2020, 02:18:48 PM
The majority of my back workouts is from rowing with one pull-up or one pulldown movement. Rack dead’s are also a staple
because you are too fat to do a real dead lift.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: XFACTOR on January 21, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
Hey Coach is Back!


I hope you die soon bitch

Thanks for your awesome contribution to this forum. You offer great advice, make everyone laugh with great posts, and seem like an all around winner.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
because you are too fat to do a real dead lift.

Thanks man, appreciate it....

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3GiKjpp3hP/?igshid=16s2v8tu1xe9s

I’m still not far off from this and this was taken a couple of months ago
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
The BMI charts as used seem to be wildly inaccurate/ not representative.
Or maybe they are saying that body weight no matter how it’s comprised of is Dangerous
To Health if it’s above there limits.

I agree with you regarding BMI not being an accurate way to determine whether someone is technically overweight. Unfortunately, it's a handy tool doctors often rely on. I laugh when I see that my BMI suggests I am overweight. There is also some truth to what you say about what we weigh, whether it be fat or lean weight, it can be a dangerous burden on our heart health. Ultimately, we like easy answers to complicated questions.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2020, 05:27:40 PM
Yeah I guess you are correct, there are most likely other factors like bone structure, cardiovascular system and so on. I guess height is just the most important factor.

And of course height to weight ratio does not say anything about your body composition. You can have a higher BMI while still being healthier because you are carrying relatively more muscle mass than someone else who is just fat with lower BMI. But I do think (not 100% sure though) that there are numerous studies linking excess body weight to shorter lifespans no matter what that weight comes from and I do believe that is true ... in general everything above one's individual "perfect" weight is probably unhealthy and will shorten your life... your heart has to work much harder, you have to eat more food which needs to be digested and so on. Most people who live a very long and healthy life are pretty light.

I guess though that as long as you don't get over let's say around 12-15% bodyfat and stay natural you are probably not going to exceed your "healthy" weight anyway.
What you've posted here is all good stuff with which I completely agree. Of course, there will always be exceptions.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 21, 2020, 06:41:48 PM
Hey Coach is Back!

I hope you die soon bitch

There is always that one retard who pops in, acts like a complete asshole, and tries to ruin the board.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 21, 2020, 06:51:43 PM
Hey Coach is Back!


I hope you die soon bitch
What an asshole !!
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2020, 07:05:59 PM
What an asshole !!

There are quite a few of these on Getbig, unfortunately. Let's hope it was just a bad joke.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 21, 2020, 07:48:44 PM
Thanks man, appreciate it....

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3GiKjpp3hP/?igshid=16s2v8tu1xe9s

I’m still not far off from this and this was taken a couple of months ago

You like a gloriously youthful person who is so visually striking that if I saw you in person, I'd be blown away. Your features appear to be almost perfectly symmetrical and proportional. You are a white man with pale blue/green eyes and light flawless skin. You're masculine in terms of facial structure and physical build. The only flaw I see is that you are too perfect, which sometimes translates to being pretty...a term best saved for females.
Are you romantic? Are you a winner? Are you sexual?

I've met people who were so beautiful or handsome that at first that's all you saw about them. Once they started talking and you looked deeper, you were let down because you realized their good looks were all there was positive about them. They were just a beautiful storefront on an outhouse. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

For your sake, I hope you've got more going for yourelf than just how well you photographs.

 ;D
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2020, 07:50:53 PM
What an asshole !!

It’s why he’s an unknown behind a keyboard but truth be known I’ll probably outlive him
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 21, 2020, 07:51:27 PM
You like a gloriously youthful person who is so visually striking that if I saw you in person, I'd be blown away. Your features appear to be almost perfectly symmetrical and proportional. You are a white man with pale blue/green eyes and light flawless skin. You're masculine in terms of facial structure and physical build. The only flaw I see is that you are too perfect, which sometimes translates to being pretty...a term best saved for females.
Are you romantic? Are you a winner? Are you sexual?

I've met people who were so beautiful or handsome that at first that's all you saw about them. Once they started talking and you looked deeper, you were let down because you realized their good looks were all there was positive about them. They were just a beautiful storefront on an outhouse. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

For your sake, I hope you've got more going for yourelf than just how well heyou photographs.

 ;D

Hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 22, 2020, 04:46:47 AM
You like a gloriously youthful person who is so visually striking that if I saw you in person, I'd be blown away. Your features appear to be almost perfectly symmetrical and proportional. You are a white man with pale blue/green eyes and light flawless skin. You're masculine in terms of facial structure and physical build. The only flaw I see is that you are too perfect, which sometimes translates to being pretty...a term best saved for females.
Are you romantic? Are you a winner? Are you sexual?

I've met people who were so beautiful or handsome that at first that's all you saw about them. Once they started talking and you looked deeper, you were let down because you realized their good looks were all there was positive about them. They were just a beautiful storefront on an outhouse. You cannot judge a book by its cover.

For your sake, I hope you've got more going for yourelf than just how well you photographs.

 ;D

Gay as Obama.  Yikes
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 22, 2020, 04:58:39 AM
Hey Coach is Back!


I hope you die soon bitch
Whose gimmick is this?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 22, 2020, 05:16:43 AM
What an asshole !!

Its just a 12 year old from Serbia. Not many adults would act that childish...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IroNat on January 22, 2020, 05:20:13 AM
Coach,

Whenever you're feeling a bit down just stop by Getbig for a lift.

Seriously, you look good in that latest pic.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2020, 10:24:43 AM
Coach,

Whenever you're feeling a bit down just stop by Getbig for a lift.

Seriously, you look good in that latest pic.


Right? Nothing like someone making you feel better like wishing you were dead. I wouldn’t say that about my worst enemy
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 22, 2020, 10:40:43 AM
Right? Nothing like someone making you feel better like wishing you were dead. I wouldn’t say that about my worst enemy
The guys trolling everybody on here.  Did you see him defending Iran against the U.S.A.?  He's either a kid or a gimmick.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2020, 10:51:52 AM
The guys trolling everybody on here.  Did you see him defending Iran against the U.S.A.?  He's either a kid or a gimmick.

I didn’t. Sad
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 22, 2020, 12:19:24 PM
The guys trolling everybody on here.  Did you see him defending Iran against the U.S.A.?  He's either a kid or a gimmick.


He's older Serbian idiot , hates all NATO countries for smashing his country in 1999.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 22, 2020, 12:33:07 PM

He's older Serbian idiot , hates all NATO countries for smashing his country in 1999.
I was way off. ;D
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 22, 2020, 12:42:45 PM

He's older Serbian idiot , hates all NATO countries for smashing his country in 1999.

Oh, so the mind of a 10 year old, but a crusty geezer who's probably jealous of Coach's physique?
Or maybe just gets butt-hurt over Joe's Conservative posts?

Serbia huh, typing away on his 1989 Packard Bell with dialup in the middle of nowhere?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 22, 2020, 12:51:03 PM
Coach  - honest question - with this latest bulk - how much extra muscle do you think you added once you diet down again?
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 22, 2020, 02:45:16 PM
Coach  - honest question - with this latest bulk - how much extra muscle do you think you added once you diet down again?

it might be better to wait until hes dieted down...
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 22, 2020, 03:27:13 PM
it might be better to wait until hes dieted down...
Good idea !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2020, 03:54:51 PM
Coach  - honest question - with this latest bulk - how much extra muscle do you think you added once you diet down again?

I can probably tell you almost exactly (if that made sense lol) since I literally just did my first prep assessment before I start my real prep on Sat.

Last show in May I STARTED at 18 weeks at 210 weighed in at 193 the day before the show completely depleted at 4.8%

Official prep weigh in today was 236.2 at 12.1% BF. If the math is correct I would say I’ve gained about 23lbs in 81/2 months and I’ll actually grow more as prep goes on.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: joswift on January 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
I can probably tell you almost exactly (if that made sense lol) since I literally just did my first prep assessment before I start my real prep on Sat.

Last show in May I STARTED at 18 weeks at 210 weighed in at 193 the day before the show completely depleted at 4.8%

Official prep weigh in today was 236.2 at 12.1% BF. If the math is correct I would say I’ve gained about 23lbs in 81/2 months

come on man, thats not muscle tissue at our age, 58 years old and gaining 23lb of muscle.. it aint happening, not after a lifetime of training..
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 22, 2020, 04:03:23 PM
I can probably tell you almost exactly (if that made sense lol) since I literally just did my first prep assessment before I start my real prep on Sat.

Last show in May I STARTED at 18 weeks at 210 weighed in at 193 the day before the show completely depleted at 4.8%

Official prep weigh in today was 236.2 at 12.1% BF. If the math is correct I would say I’ve gained about 23lbs in 81/2 months and I’ll actually grow more as prep goes on.

Damn.  That would be amazing.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 22, 2020, 04:05:32 PM
come on man, thats not muscle tissue at our age, 58 years old and gaining 23lb of muscle.. it aint happening, not after a lifetime of training..

The only way to possibly square this circle would be that he's regained some muscle along the way that may have been lost from apathy, age and a sudden influx of anabolics. 
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2020, 04:10:02 PM
come on man, thats not muscle tissue at our age, 58 years old and gaining 23lb of muscle.. it aint happening, not after a lifetime of training..

I’ve zero distractions this off-season plus the supplements was a game changer. Not grms wise but the supplements themselves

I work mostly from home. The rest of the day is eat, sleep and train.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Marty Champions on January 22, 2020, 04:20:36 PM
Stop eating meat coach or u will die like everyother abuser

The onlt reason your not dead yet is because you are very short thus your body can recover faster because there is less of you
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: AbrahamG on January 22, 2020, 04:22:09 PM
Stop eating meat coach or u will die like everyother abuser

The onlt reason your not dead yet is because you are very short thus your body can recover faster because there is less of you

And that my friends is pure, unadulterated SCIENCE.
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2020, 04:37:46 PM
Stop eating meat coach or u will die like everyother abuser

The onlt reason your not dead yet is because you are very short thus your body can recover faster because there is less of you

🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: wes on January 22, 2020, 06:13:33 PM
you are very short thus your body can recover faster because there is less of you
Huh ???
Title: Re: Prep starts today - I've reached my off-season limit
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 22, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
Stop eating meat coach or u will die like everyother abuser

The onlt reason your not dead yet is because you are very short thus your body can recover faster because there is less of you

Didn't you say on another thread that statistically shorter people get hurt less often when they trip and fall because they are closer to the ground? On another note Coach is really tall for his height. I'll give him that.