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That depends, how much does your mom weigh?
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775
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Only good thing flat bench is good for is front delts, ego and injuries, waste of time exercise.
Heavy fly's, dips, dumbbells, machines that really isolate pec's.
No need to bench unless u are powerlifter
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85kg max
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85kg max
If this is true, need to step up your game. Why have you hit a wall?
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That depends, how much does your mom weigh?
Ok, we got a smart guy here. I'm guessing you're one of those getbiggers that doesn't actually lift and just does it 'for the lulz' OMG Amirite Nancy?
Now if you had any sense about you, and asked me politely what I lift - I would tell you 405 raw.
But you didn't because you're a little guy :D
It's ok, I am sure I take shits bigger than you.
I even take them on your mom. She's filthy like that ;)
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That depends, how much does your mom weigh?
775
Damn, she really needs to lose some weight, that's disgusting.
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Best ever was 3 plates. Today I'd be lucky if I can put up 2.
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It's ok, I am sure I take shits bigger than you.
I even take them on your mom. She's filthy like that ;)
I'm glad to hear she's dating again. :D
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It's easier to count the weight in the gym that I DON'T bench.
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That's a hot bitch you have there 'The Trainer'
Would love to go anal, raw, no pulling out.
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Best ever was 3 plates. Today I'd be lucky if I can put up 2.
315 is a sold bench. When consider how many people do the bench press as a whole and how many can actually ever get 315, I would bet it is only about 3-4%.
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315 is a sold bench. When consider how many people do the bench press as a whole and how many can actually ever get 315, I would bet it is only about 3-4%.
Since you're in the business of throwing out statistics,
What percentage bench 405?
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315 is a sold bench. When consider how many people do the bench press as a whole and how many can actually ever get 315, I would bet it is only about 3-4%.
Bullshit 315 ain't shit, did 2 reps at 170lb but ain't fucking up my shoulder doing that shit again.
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405 for reps when i weighed 235 lbs, now after two and a half years of major health problems 300 for reps at 160 lbs.
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405 for reps when i weighed 235 lbs, now after two and a half years of major health problems 300 for reps at 160 lbs.
Bullshit
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Bullshit
;D would you believe 140 lb dbs for 5 sets of 12 at 235 lb bodyweight????????
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;D would you believe 140 lb dbs for 5 sets of 12 at 235 lb bodyweight????????
that would be incline db presses by the way. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D would you believe 140 lb dbs for 5 sets of 12 at 235 lb bodyweight????????
Bullshit.
If you could do those lifts you'd post a video.
Until you do you're just another guy online with a 10 incher that 'chooses not to do porn'.
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There are only few people around that can bench heavy, walk into any gym and you see guys benching 135 pounds, if you are benching 225 pounds you are already at the upper level.
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There are only few people around that can bench heavy, walk into any gym and you see guys benching 135 pounds, if you are benching 225 pounds you are already at the upper level.
225 is extremely weak.
If you are only benching 225 you may as well give up bodybuilding and dive headlong into full on submissive twink porn. You would certainly be the bitch of most in prison.
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It's ok, I am sure I take shits bigger than you.
That's because you probably have an asshole the size of a pancake from all the cock that's been stuffed up it. You could probably sit on a fucking cactus and still have room to spin because the needles don't touch the sides.
Fuck off you fat tub of cock loving shit.
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typical bench day is work up slowly in 20lbs jumps to 225 for 5 or 6 reps.
not very much, hoping for 315 for at least single by end of year
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Bullshit.
If you could do those lifts you'd post a video.
Until you do you're just another guy online with a 10 incher that 'chooses not to do porn'.
don't really take pics and such as i outgrew that shit. here's an old pic from high school 105 lb dbs 5 sets of 15 when i weighed 170lbs in pic as i said i grew to 235 with a goal of 285 lbs before major illness. only because you asked ::) ::)
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225 is extremely weak.
If you are only benching 225 you may as well give up bodybuilding and dive headlong into full on submissive twink porn. You would certainly be the bitch of most in prison.
I was benching 225 when I was in high school fuckface, I dont bench anymore I prefer dumbells but I have gone as high as 405 for reps.
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You are extremely weak and have no chance of achieving this. Save yourself a lot of wasted time and find a nice office job where you can push pencils instead of plates. Hope this helps.
ok thanks, ill take that into consideration
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don't really take pics and such as i outgrew that shit. here's an old pic from high school 105 lb dbs 5 sets of 15 when i weighed 170lbs in pic as i said i grew to 235 with a goal of 285 lbs before major illness. only because you asked ::) ::)
Lol,
Only on getbig...
I was going to post pics but my dog ate my camera.
I had a goal of shredded 285 pound body mass but I suddenly came down with a major illness!
;D ;D ;D
I totally would have been a better version of Dorian Yates if not for the illness!
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That's because you probably have an asshole the size of a pancake from all the cock that's been stuffed up it. You could probably sit on a fucking cactus and still have room to spin because the needles don't touch the sides.
Fuck off you fat tub of cock loving shit.
Hey foozle I let getbig know what your name means you can thank me later :D
F is for fagtard
O is for object in the ass
O is for Oriental ass beads
Z is for zoofilia
L is for little dick
E is for eating ass shit
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Lol,
Only on getbig...
I was going to post pics but my dog ate my camera.
I had a goal of shredded 285 pound body mass but I suddenly came down with a major illness!
;D ;D ;D
lets see your pic bukake shorts
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385 about 2yrs ago. Though with my shoulders these days I never go above 225 flat bench and 200 incline dumbbells (100lbs each hand)..in all honesty I don't even remember the last time I flat benched. I feel I get way more pump doing pushups for warm up then go incline DB then cables. Shoulders don't like dips either :-\
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I bench nice gurls.
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Right around one-fiddy...
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265lbs (120kg) for 4 clean reps, never tried more... Ages since i weighed myself, i'm probably in the 165lbs (75kg) range...
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lets see your pic bukake shorts
Even pros get ragged on here so I am not posting pics.
When you consider that I weigh 275 a 405 bench is not all that impressive anyway..
I am not making outrageous claims like 'funk51'
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385 about 2yrs ago. Though with my shoulders these days I never go above 225 flat bench and 200 incline dumbbells (100lbs each hand)..in all honesty I don't even remember the last time I flat benched. I feel I get way more pump doing pushups for warm up then go incline DB then cables. Shoulders don't like dips either :-\
I bench 405 today
That is greater than 385 2 years ago
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Only good thing flat bench is good for is front delts, ego and injuries, waste of time exercise.
Heavy fly's, dips, dumbbells, machines that really isolate pec's.
No need to bench unless u are powerlifter
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Even pros get ragged on here so I am not posting pics.
When you consider that I weigh 275 a 405 bench is not all that impressive anyway..
I am not making outrageous claims like 'funk51'
so high school pic at 170 lbs with 210 lbs worth of dbs for reps is fake too .. guys like you make me laugh put up a pic or shut the hell up. so what do you do at your massive 275 lb bodyweight??? 500 or 600 hundred lb benches. you asked i told truth actually the 405 felt somewhat light at the time probably could have done a little more. by the way my parish priest can bench over 400 lbs too at 250 lb bodyweight. :o :o :o
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Now if you had any sense about you, and asked me politely what I lift - I would tell you 405 raw.
But you didn't because you're a little guy :D
That's weird. I bench 406.
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"A Righteous Sort" seems like the kinda` guy who takes it up the ass.
Just saying.
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so high school pic at 170 lbs with 210 lbs worth of dbs for reps is fake too .. guys like you make me laugh put up a pic or shut the hell up. so what do you do at your massive 275 lb bodyweight??? 500 or 600 hundred lb benches. you asked i told truth actually the 405 felt somewhat light at the time probably could have done a little more. by the way my parish priest can bench over 400 lbs too at 250 lb bodyweight. :o :o :o
Why would you bother saying 'I had a goal of 285'. You never reached anything close to 285 so nobody gives a shit
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"A Righteous Sort" seems like the kinda` guy who takes it up the ass.
Just saying.
I seem like the 'kind of guy' that would stomp a mudhole in your ass.
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I seem like the 'kind of guy' that would stomp a mudhole in your ass.
Bet ya` can`t!
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315lbs @ 171lbs (140kg @ 77kg). I had more in me, next strength cycle no doubt I will hit 150kg (335lbs)
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I seem like the 'kind of guy' that would stomp a mudhole stamp a mushroom in your ass.
There ya go
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My ultimate, life-time "I am strong guy" goals are:
140kg clean & jerk
160kg bench press
200kg squat
170kg front squat
250kg deadlift
all at BW under 80kg
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Why would you bother saying 'I had a goal of 285'. You never reached anything close to 285 so nobody gives a shit
people need goals mine was to weigh 285, i think i would have reached it had not major illness set in, dude just stating facts why are you taking it personally?, you asked i replied. lighten up man life's too short, what good is lying if i would lie i would have said 500 lbs now that would be a lie unless i reached the 285 lb bodyweight which was the goal and i didn't accomplish either... :'( :'( :'(
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people need goals mine was to weigh 285, i think i would have reached it had not major illness set in, dude just stating facts why are you taking it personally?, you asked i replied. lighten up man life's too short, what good is lying if i would lie i would have said 500 lbs now that would be a lie unless i reached the 285 lb bodyweight which was the goal and i didn't accomplish either... :'( :'( :'(
I am still much stronger than you
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I am still much stronger than you
why dont you two just measure dicks?
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I am still much stronger than you
Pick up your marbles and beat it fuckface,before you get hurt.
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I am still much stronger than you
oh so now your bragging good for you, i could care less who's stronger. now post up that pic and give the getbig world a look at ya. :'( :'( :'( :'( bet you don't. here's my current pic. ;D ;D ;Djust kidding.
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oh so now your bragging good for you, i could care less who's stronger. now post up that pic and give the getbig world a look at ya. :'( :'( :'( :'( bet you don't. here's my current pic. ;D ;D ;Djust kidding.
You have a decent beginners physique, however you need to shave before you even think of going onstage.
I am a powerbuilder myself, and I try to find a balance between strength and functional muscle.
Sorry we got off to a bad start my friend, I enjoy competitiveness and I assure you there was nothing viscious behind my jabs.
Your numbers are impressive
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Most of the crew at my gym put up >4 plates, usually twice a week...Not a big deal.
I'm sorry "a righteous sort" what is this thread supposed to be proving? You bench 405 at 275? That is mediocre. I see 190lb men handling 4 plates for speed work multiple times per week...What is the point of you?
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i stopped conventional barbel bench pressing some time ago
pointless exercise
i do shoulder width bench press for triceps tho 8x115kg now
Is that why you have a bird chest?
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I did 135 for three sets of 8 the other day.
srs. Fuck ever benching over 225 or doing it as anything but an accessory exercise once every month
each rep was 8 seconds squeezed up.
DB's are so much better for your shoulders, even if you bench 'safely like a powerlifter' (lol)
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You have a decent beginners physique, however you need to shave before you even think of going onstage.
I am a powerbuilder myself, and I try to find a balance between strength and functional muscle.
Sorry we got off to a bad start my friend, I enjoy competitiveness and I assure you there was nothing viscious behind my jabs.
Your numbers are impressive
i like to kid around too, here's real pic at about 200 lbs bdwt unfortunately health problem was only too real.
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bench press doesnt build chest
it build ego
Said no on with a good bench press ever. ;)
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Most of the crew at my gym put up >4 plates, usually twice a week...Not a big deal.
I'm sorry "a righteous sort" what is this thread supposed to be proving? You bench 405 at 275? That is mediocre. I see 190lb men handling 4 plates for speed work multiple times per week...What is the point of you?
Hahaha sure you do ;D
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I don't bench anymore. I think it's an inferior exercise. It makes the shoulder joint tight and inflexible due to it's inherent limiting range of motion.
The bench press really hasn't been around that long. I can imagine when lifting began. 1st it was let's power clean a weight and press it over head. Someone said, that's to much work. Another came up with seated press bench so you can exercise sitting down. Then some real lazy guy said is there any way we can lie in a bed and press? That's when the bench press was born.
When misguided person asks what can you lift they are always talking about the bench. I'm more impressed finding out a person's power and strength by how much they can lift over head from the ground. If a guy can power clean a weight and push jerk it over head it will tell you more about his athletic attributes than any bench press. I never met a guy who could put up a good power clean who wasn't fast with a great vertical leap.
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Most of the crew at my gym put up >4 plates, usually twice a week...Not a big deal.
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Hahaha sure you do ;D
I train at Supertraining gym in Sacramento with Mark Bell...Most all of our guys have well over 400lb competition bench presses...No one gives a shit lol. How much do you squat? How much is your total?
Why would I lie about a 400lb bench press rofl...My boy Phil Brewer just benched 500 weighing 165 rofl...400 is a high school bench press.
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;D would you believe 140 lb dbs for 5 sets of 12 at 235 lb bodyweight????????
My muscular endurance doesn't work anything like that. I would press 60kg (133lbs, heaviest dbs there are) for 12 controlled reps for 1 or 2 sets. After that I drop off a cliff to 8 or so reps then 5/6. I'd be lucky to maintain 12 reps second set, but I only rest about 60-90 seconds between sets.
Most I benched was 170kg on first cycle (age 20) when I took deca and was moving from powerlifting. Stopped powerlifting, stopped deca (high bp) and never tried to get near that again. Did 140kg for 9 reps a few months back but have chronic inflammation of tendon in shoulder now. No coincidence, no more heavy benching for me.
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Hell Liquid_C here benches what 600 something...400 is seriously shit.
Again why is this clown bragging like he's something? lol 405 @ 275 holy fucking shit...
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Hell Liquid_C here benches what 600 something...400 is seriously shit.
Again why is this clown bragging like he's something? lol 405 @ 275 holy fucking shit...
Have naturals in my gym benching 175kg (single) at 75kg. Most look like T-rexes though, I have long arms (74" reach). I always lie when people ask what I bench in clubs/shops etc (I could say 250kg they would believe me so why not) or switch the subject to deadlift.
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335 for sure and likely around 350 a few years ago.
Now I'm pretty sure I can incline more than bench. Just don't care for the exercise.
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Hell Liquid_C here benches what 600 something...400 is seriously shit.
Again why is this clown bragging like he's something? lol 405 @ 275 holy fucking shit...
405 is a gateway weight....like the 600lbs pull...not sure what the squat would be maybe 500 as most feds consider the 1500 lbs total as the floor. 405 at 275.....I eat a pizza and my shitty bench goes up 15 lbs.
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Have naturals in my gym benching 175kg (single) at 75kg. Most look like T-rexes though, I have long arms (74" reach). I always lie when people ask what I bench in clubs/shops etc (I could say 250kg they would believe me so why not) or switch the subject to deadlift.
Yes the long-armed man is cursed at benching.
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when people ask me in clubs etc
i say i only use machines and dumbels
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Doesn't really matter as that's not what you're going for.
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Prolonged periods of heavy benching really are only necessary if you are a powerlifter. And even among powerlifters the bench is responsible for more injuries than the squat or dead. The problem I see with the bench is that unless you are very well built for it (barrel chest, T-rex arms) then over time it will put a lot of strain on the shoulder girdle and the very small stabiliser muscles around that joint.
Having said that most people you see benching have atrocious form and are an injury waiting to happen (flared elbows, bouncing weight off chest). The best thing for long term shoulder health if you have to/want to bench is to leave your ego at the door and bring your grip in to shoulder width (about 18-20 inches apart). This grip is commonly called "close grip" but its actually not - a true close grip bench has the hands much closer together. The guys you see bouncing 265 off their chest with their arse up in the air would get stapled by 225 taking a shoulder width grip, bringing the bar to the chest, pausing briefly and pressing up.
But then again I have a shitty bench so I am biased against it. My push press is pretty much on par with my bench... :(
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depends on what I eat the day of and day before.
today's supposed to be chest day and I dunno till I get into it whether my 3-4 working sets will be 315 for sets of 6-8 or 365 for 5-6.... hell, if I dont' get a big meal in while I'm doing laundry in a few mins, it may only be a 275 for 15 day. lol.
I'm a shitty bencher, btw. shoulders aren't great and nerve damage in chest from broken sternum killed any dreams of a 500lb bench many years ago.
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...same way I get mad when u start bashing power lifters. Plenty of fat dudes...who may never want to look like you or train like you. There are plenty of dudes that do look like you and train like madmen for strength...who cares. You won't blow your shoulders off...liver may shrivel but again, whatever.
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Prolonged periods of heavy benching really are only necessary if you are a powerlifter. And even among powerlifters the bench is responsible for more injuries than the squat or dead. The problem I see with the bench is that unless you are very well built for it (barrel chest, T-rex arms) then over time it will put a lot of strain on the shoulder girdle and the very small stabiliser muscles around that joint.
Having said that most people you see benching have atrocious form and are an injury waiting to happen (flared elbows, bouncing weight off chest). The best thing for long term shoulder health if you have to/want to bench is to leave your ego at the door and bring your grip in to shoulder width (about 18-20 inches apart). This grip is commonly called "close grip" but its actually not - a true close grip bench has the hands much closer together. The guys you see bouncing 265 off their chest with their arse up in the air would get stapled by 225 taking a shoulder width grip, bringing the bar to the chest, pausing briefly and pressing up.
But then again I have a shitty bench so I am biased against it. My push press is pretty much on par with my bench... :(
I managed a 365 bench 3 weeks ago at my last comp. The most I benched during the 9 week cycle was 315 for 3. I went up to a 335 with a slingshot a few times but that was it. I took out a lot of shoulder work due to injury...from benching. I do a lot of closegrip work and I use the shit out of the slingshot. Using it paused sorta defeats its purpose but it keeps my shoulders stable and I come down with a lot more authority. My raw bench looks a 1000lbs push with a 3 ply shirt on....1 inch per minute decent. I friggen hate the exercise. I hate it so much that at that meet I got dinged on my second attempt because I unracked...bro benched the shit and racked before a single command was given.
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yes but they get upset when i answer this
dumb fucks
You're expecting greater knowledge of kinesiology from 18 year old female Cuban clubgoers?
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Yeah I've seen the slingshot alright, looks like it would do a lot for saving the shoulders long term especially during a heavy bench cycle.
BTW a 365 bench at the meet while never going above 315 in your training is a great example of training optimally. You don't need to max out in training constantly to get stronger. Every time I try to push my training hard and overestimate my training maxes I ALWAYS end up making less progress and going back to where I started.
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http://www.criticalbench.com/Scott-Mendelson.htm
Big chests do not make big bench presses.
I disagree, especially if you are a raw bencher. An equipped bencher would be more worried about lats, rear delts, and especially triceps since in equipped benching the chest plays very little role and triceps and stabilizing muscles like lats, rear delts etc play a bigger role. If you bench without a shirt, you are going to be using your chest a whole lot unless you use a narrow grip and even then you are going to be using your chest somewhat. Scott knows this as he tore his pec pretty good trying to best his raw bench press record.
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I bench 405 today
That is greater than 385 2 years ago
You are a more superior man than I. I bow to you sir.
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Yeah I've seen the slingshot alright, looks like it would do a lot for saving the shoulders long term especially during a heavy bench cycle.
It doesn't really, I used it for a couple of years when I was a FatLifter and my shoulders always hurt more when I used it vs raw paused benching.
stupid gimmiky ego-toy imo .. I got up to 405x10 with mine and it had absolutely no carryover to raw bench or a shirted bench groove.
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I saw a guy tonight unrack 170kg, lay it on his chest for a 3 count and then press it up. I wonder how many on here can do that
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Best to date is 425lbs/193 kg at about 235lbs, just recently hit 405 for a solid triple, squats/deads are cool and a better test of strength overall but man there is nothing like a big bench press.
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I haven`t done benches in years,but I have done a legit strict double bodyweight bench press years ago.
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It doesn't really, I used it for a couple of years when I was a FatLifter and my shoulders always hurt more when I used it vs raw paused benching.
stupid gimmiky ego-toy imo .. I got up to 405x10 with mine and it had absolutely no carryover to raw bench or a shirted bench groove.
It all depends on how you use it. Its no more a gimmick then boards. I replaced boards with the slingshot. More as a safety device then as something for a future method or to increase my bench. I use it a lot for close grips because I have a torn labrum and my regular bench and closegrip aren't a lot different.
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Hell Liquid_C here benches what 600 something...400 is seriously shit.
Again why is this clown bragging like he's something? lol 405 @ 275 holy fucking shit...
Hey man,
I already said 405 at a 275 pound body weight isn't all that impressive. You're acting like I was making a big deal out of it when I wasn't.
Also, very few people reach 315 much less 405 so using an gym where serious powerlifters train as an example of the norm is rediculous.
405 isn't anywhere close to te norm for anyone outside of powerlifting gym.
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I saw a guy tonight unrack 170kg, lay it on his chest for a 3 count and then press it up. I wonder how many on here can do that
I benched 172.5kg in compeition 5 weeks ago.
Minor pec tear trying 175kg on 3rd attempt, just went back heavy benching yesterday and could still feel it, not sure how good it will heal up.
Would get 175+ outside of competition in a gym with typical bounce/no pause.
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On incline today 295 X 6 there was definitely a 7 there but I had no spotter and was too pussy to try it alone
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I used to love the bench press. Still like it but after tearing chest i can no longer hit the heavy weights. At my peak I was able to Hit 315x8-12 reps for 3 sets. My best single was 445 @225bw. I tore my chest prepping 315 quit a few years back by forcing up a rep in poor form. The muscle tore,sounded like a wet towel being ripped apart. Currently in the last few months I have been working back on the bench. Do not know what current max is but I put 260 for 10 up on my last set. I never used gear,always benched raw. Never saw the point in bench shirts, real,raw power is the only true test of one's strength. I would love to be able to Hit the heavy weights again. I get pretty nervous when I go up in weight, baby steps at this point.
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You are extremely weak and have no chance of achieving this. Save yourself a lot of wasted time and find a nice office job where you can push pencils instead of plates. Hope this helps.
Ok, we got a smart guy here. I'm guessing you're one of those getbiggers that doesn't actually lift and just does it 'for the lulz' OMG Amirite Nancy?
Now if you had any sense about you, and asked me politely what I lift - I would tell you 405 raw.
But you didn't because you're a little guy :D
It's ok, I am sure I take shits bigger than you.
I even take them on your mom. She's filthy like that ;)
Hey man,
I already said 405 at a 275 pound body weight isn't all that impressive. You're acting like I was making a big deal out of it when I wasn't.
Also, very few people reach 315 much less 405 so using an gym where serious powerlifters train as an example of the norm is rediculous.
405 isn't anywhere close to te norm for anyone outside of powerlifting gym.
Shut your mouth fagot lulz ::)
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Since you're in the business of throwing out statistics,
What percentage bench 405?
your new... I like you
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your new... I like you
Thank you LiftEarsLeEpRePeAt,
I reviewed your work. You're quite the quality poster yourself.
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Thank you LiftEarsLeEpRePeAt,
I reviewed your work. You're quite the quality poster yourself.
youre either a liar or brilliant.. either way.. I like you
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160kg x 8
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505 for a deuce.
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must be bouncing it off your big dick?
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I disagree, especially if you are a raw bencher. An equipped bencher would be more worried about lats, rear delts, and especially triceps since in equipped benching the chest plays very little role and triceps and stabilizing muscles like lats, rear delts etc play a bigger role. If you bench without a shirt, you are going to be using your chest a whole lot unless you use a narrow grip and even then you are going to be using your chest somewhat. Scott knows this as he tore his pec pretty good trying to best his raw bench press record.
I also disagree. Strongest man I ever knew was my Drill Instructor at USMC Boot. Looked liked he had two guys on a headlock his barrel chest was so big. Told us he doesn't lift weights because the Corps didn't issue them to him ::)
Anyways at the end of boot he made good on a promise to do 100 pushups with a recruit sitting on his back. He didn't slow down till around 70 but still pushed out 100. I'm betting he could push 400lbs or more on bench
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140kgx6 no spotter last week.
But usually I stick to:
Set 1: 100kg
Set 2: 120kg
Set 3: 120kg
Set 4: 100kg
Chest is done after this, then move on to declines or cables. First exercise always incline.
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4 pages!? You guys are slipping. The correct answer is 'all of it.' :-\
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I'm seeing number 405lbs being used often here... Outside of powerlifting ground, benching 405 is a big deal and not so common, in my opinion... Unless there are a lot of big fatasses with short arms, using shitty form, and sometimes with a spotter doing half the work... Most i have seen is a guy in my gym benching 452lbs (205kg) for 4-6 reps, at around 190lbs with medium arms... Half reps mostly, still holding and moving such weight is impressive...
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Blows my mind how many people on here have got hurt from bench pressing. Especially in the chest and the shoulders and really not with a lot of weight. 20 years in the sport and I have never had a shoulder injury or a pec injury. Hell I've never really had and major injuries from lifting at all until here the last few months. My elbow has finally decided enough is enough and is basically bone on bone so my heavy days are over.
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
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But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
There are real lifts and then there are internet lifts. :D
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today.....265 for 3 deep, long climb post injury 315 for 3 by Dec 8th....
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Blows my mind how many people on here have got hurt from bench pressing. Especially in the chest and the shoulders and really not with a lot of weight. 20 years in the sport and I have never had a shoulder injury or a pec injury. Hell I've never really had and major injuries from lifting at all until here the last few months. My elbow has finally decided enough is enough and is basically bone on bone so my heavy days are over.
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
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For the last 29 years I started my chest workouts on the flat bench. After giving my shoulders a year off from benching, I just started again 2 weeks ago. I thought I would never be able to bench ever again. I was happy yesterday when I put up 185 for 10 strict reps. My goal is to work back up to benching my bodyweight (currently 205lbs) for 10 reps. Shoulders feel good so far.
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Blows my mind how many people on here have got hurt from bench pressing. Especially in the chest and the shoulders and really not with a lot of weight. 20 years in the sport and I have never had a shoulder injury or a pec injury. Hell I've never really had and major injuries from lifting at all until here the last few months. My elbow has finally decided enough is enough and is basically bone on bone so my heavy days are over.
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
x2 315 is a very strong bench that most will never achieve even with a good effort devoted to it.
Everyone acting all "it's no big deal everyone in my gym does it" is full of it or is speaking from a very narrow perspective that doesn't generalize to your average gym lifter. I think someone in this thread even made this claim of 405 ::)
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There are real lifts and then there are internet lifts. :D
I also find it amusing how everyone's reported max benches on the internet are multiples of 2x45-lb plates (e.g. 315, 405) about 99% of the time :D
The exception to this is that nobody reports a max of 495 since rounding it up to 500 looks a lot more impressive .
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Always throw the 2.5 on when deading if 495-500 is the weight range...technically my last bench comp bench was 363.7 or 165Kg's.
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Blows my mind how many people on here have got hurt from bench pressing. Especially in the chest and the shoulders and really not with a lot of weight. 20 years in the sport and I have never had a shoulder injury or a pec injury. Hell I've never really had and major injuries from lifting at all until here the last few months. My elbow has finally decided enough is enough and is basically bone on bone so my heavy days are over.
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
Someone who knows.
I'd like to add another thing.
How many here who have pushed 405 or greater did so NOT using any juice?
Exactly.
Regardless of bodyweight, if you're pressing over 400 pounds totally drug-free, you are a serious rarity. Steroids can make a ridiculous difference in how much you bench press.
(405 at around 275 pounds bodyweight is simply awesome if you're drug-free.)
P.S. Benching isn't all that harmful to your shoulders IF you know how to bench press PROPERLY. The technique that usually gets trashed around here with the tucked elbows, medium grip and arched back (not ridiculously arched, obviously) is how heavy pressing should be done if shoulder health means anything to you. In other words, placing the shoulders BEHIND the chest throughout the repetitions.
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treefiddy
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I also find it amusing how everyone's reported max benches on the internet are multiples of 2x45-lb plates (e.g. 315, 405) about 99% of the time :D
The exception to this is that nobody reports a max of 495 since rounding it up to 500 looks a lot more impressive .
Yes, its almost like they stop benching altogether once they reach a nice round milestone so never progress after this point. :D
Also, a lift needs to be seen by others in order for it to be truly judged.
For instance, a few weeks back I saw a guy "squatting" 405. I use the word "squatting" in inverted commas because it basically consisted of him un-racking the bar under immense strain, bending his knees a few inches seven or eight times and then re-racking it.
This guy will probably then go brag to his mates about how he squats 405 for reps. :D
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treefiddy
Current? Damn....
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Current? Damn....
Calvin is one of the more inconspicuous strongmen on getbig.
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Current? Damn....
Yup
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Someone who knows.
I'd like to add another thing.
How many here who have pushed 405 or greater did so NOT using any juice?
Exactly.
Regardless of bodyweight, if you're pressing over 400 pounds totally drug-free, you are a serious rarity. Steroids can make a ridiculous difference in how much you bench press.
(405 at around 275 pounds bodyweight is simply awesome if you're drug-free.)
P.S. Benching isn't all that harmful to your shoulders IF you know how to bench press PROPERLY. The technique that usually gets trashed around here with the tucked elbows, medium grip and arched back (not ridiculously arched, obviously) is how heavy pressing should be done if shoulder health means anything to you. In other words, placing the shoulders BEHIND the chest throughout the repetitions.
Great post from both Wolf and Fortress. Couldn't of said it much better.
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bill anton was the 13th man to bench press 400 lbs i know because ironman maggy told me so. doug hepburn the first to do 500 with reg park second. the first to 600 was pat casey. the first to 700 was either ted arcidi or jim big bear williams. these were all raw lifts no slingshots catapault suits required.
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Time to embarrass some people in this thread. 8)
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bill anton was the 13th man to bench press 400 lbs i know because ironman maggy told me so. doug hepburn the first to do 500 with reg park second. the first to 600 was pat casey. the first to 700 was either ted arcidi or jim big bear williams. these were all raw lifts no slingshots catapault suits required.
According to 'TEMPER' 400 is 'no big deal' and everyone in his gym is throwing up 405 with ease. ::)
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Blows my mind how many people on here have got hurt from bench pressing. Especially in the chest and the shoulders and really not with a lot of weight. 20 years in the sport and I have never had a shoulder injury or a pec injury. Hell I've never really had and major injuries from lifting at all until here the last few months. My elbow has finally decided enough is enough and is basically bone on bone so my heavy days are over.
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
The bench itself never hurt me, but since I tore my pec muscle STRETCHING (yes, crazy huh) I cant bench pain free anymore. I benched elbows in, tuck, 1 second pause etc but its still no good anymore. Thankfully incline and DB is pain free.
agree on the weight numbers, even when I was training at Gold's Venice there was usually only one or two other guys who would go over 4 plates with me on the bench and they were 260+ NPC superheavy monsters. 405 is something you hardly ever see done properly in any gym outside of PLing gyms.
that was using the slingshot... I could do 405 for 5 without it at the time, and for 3 with a pause. It was a complete waste of time imo.
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The bench itself never hurt me, but since I tore my pec muscle STRETCHING (yes, crazy huh) I cant bench pain free anymore. I benched elbows in, tuck, 1 second pause etc but its still no good anymore. Thankfully incline and DB is pain free.
agree on the weight numbers, even when I was training at Gold's Venice there was usually only one or two other guys who would go over 4 plates with me on the bench and they were 260+ NPC superheavy monsters. 405 is something you hardly ever see done properly in any gym outside of PLing gyms.
that was using the slingshot... I could do 405 for 5 without it at the time, and for 3 with a pause. It was a complete waste of time imo.
Solid post
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Blows my mind how many people on here have got hurt from bench pressing. Especially in the chest and the shoulders and really not with a lot of weight. 20 years in the sport and I have never had a shoulder injury or a pec injury. Hell I've never really had and major injuries from lifting at all until here the last few months. My elbow has finally decided enough is enough and is basically bone on bone so my heavy days are over.
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
Yes this is so true. In fact the number of people you seeing do a legit bench with 315 is very rare, probably LESS than 10%. And by legit bench I mean lowering the bar under control, pausing briefly on the chest and pressing up to lockout (obviously with no spotter touching the bar at any point). This trend of dropping the bar and bouncing it off the chest is not a legit bench in my opinion; it's like doing quarter squats or rocking barbell curls.
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Most I've ever benched = 340lbs for 6 reps. No idea what I could have done for a single.
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According to 'TEMPER' 400 is 'no big deal' and everyone in his gym is throwing up 405 with ease. ::)
397# @ 106 BW ... Strictest judging in the world, strictest drug testing in the world.
You're bragging about 405 @ 275...You fat weakling scum.
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Yep anybody that thinks 315 is a weak bench does not know what they are talking about. Same goes for anything over 400. I worked very hard as a natural, have never taken p.e.d.s I am 6'2 with longer than average arms. I remember going to a local bench meet with some people from my gym,some from others. When they got around to loading 315 and each (that could) put it up my turn came. After noticing some of their form and performance I decided to show my power. I took the bar off rack unassisted lowered it to my chest and paused.......long enough for them to think I was buried by the weight. When they moved in to help me I rammed it up hard and fast.
The one training method I used for this power was to bench in a power rack and always work a few sets for raw power by starting at the bottom with an 80 percent max weight. I would arm it up once rest one minute repeat rest one minute repeat over and over until I could no longer push up from the bottom. At my best I could incline 315 for 5 close grip 365 for 3-5 max . As much as I trained for a big bench naturally and raw I really enjoyed reps and sets with over 300 pounds. I really would get puffed up from it especially after doing heavy bent over barbell rows.
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Yes this is so true. In fact the number of people you seeing do a legit bench with 315 is very rare, probably LESS than 10%. And by legit bench I mean lowering the bar under control, pausing briefly on the chest and pressing up to lockout (obviously with no spotter touching the bar at any point). This trend of dropping the bar and bouncing it off the chest is not a legit bench in my opinion; it's like doing quarter squats or rocking barbell curls.
"Bouncing off the chest" bench pressing is so late 1990s. The vast majority of people in the gym today quarter rep weight that would bury them for one quality full rep.
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Just so happens tonight was my heavy bench day.
I worked up to 415 ... and some guys from my work (who were there) started saying, So-and-so from work can press 400, and, Yeah, so-and-so from work can shoulder press 400 ... And then, towards the end of my session, this juiced "physique competitor", who says he's prepping for a contest in six weeks, says, When I am heavy in the off season at around 245, I do about 450 for six.
I know the first two guys from work for whom my workmates make those claims. The first is some 170-pound dude who is muscular but would get buried under 400. The second is a husky-looking fellow who'd suffer a crushed cranium if he attempted shoulder pressing 400 (the guy who made the claim says it was on a machine ... oh, brother). And the third guy, with the 450 for six claim? I SERIOUSLY doubt this.
Just another wank talking out his ass.
Why is it when someone who has a decent bench is lifting, all these claims come out of the woodwork from those in the peanut gallery?
Yeah, my uncle's best friend's cousin can bench 650 for eight, dude! ::)
Totally pisses me off.
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i can bench more than i can squat,but my chest sucks my leg is my best bodypart
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Time to embarrass some people in this thread. 8)
Between her and Vladamir "Fuck the NWO" Putin, Russia can't lose.
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Getbiggers in the second half:
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I've been working on my bench hard.
I hit 140kg x 8 on monday.
Last competition I hit 150kg with a pause (which felt ridiculously easy).
6'1 and about 228lbs atm. I am fat though, prob 14% body fat (want to cut down but I want to hit 300kg deadlift first). My strength drastically tails off once my bodyfat is sub 10%.
Which leaves me with a conundrum; either chase strength gains at 12-15% body fat (which I must admit is more enjoyable than pure bodybuilding). Or focus on titrating calories down and becoming sexy once again.
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Just so happens tonight was my heavy bench day.
I worked up to 415 ... and some guys from my work (who were there) started saying, So-and-so from work can press 400, and, Yeah, so-and-so from work can shoulder press 400 ... And then, towards the end of my session, this juiced "physique competitor", who says he's prepping for a contest in six weeks, says, When I am heavy in the off season at around 245, I do about 450 for six.
I know the first two guys from work for whom my workmates make those claims. The first is some 170-pound dude who is muscular but would get buried under 400. The second is a husky-looking fellow who'd suffer a crushed cranium if he attempted shoulder pressing 400 (the guy who made the claim says it was on a machine ... oh, brother). And the third guy, with the 450 for six claim? I SERIOUSLY doubt this.
Just another wank talking out his ass.
Why is it when someone who has a decent bench is lifting, all these claims come out of the woodwork from those in the peanut gallery?
Yeah, my uncle's best friend's cousin can bench 650 for eight, dude! ::)
Totally pisses me off.
It downplays their embarrassment and shame at being the subordinate male in that situation. They can't say "oh yeah I bench 450 for reps" because you can ask them to prove it on the spot. They can however claim that they know others who bench such numbers to make it seem as if a 415 bench is no big deal.
I used to play on my university rugby team and when we trained at the college gym there were some VERY strong, large athletes. Most of these big guys played on the rugby team but there were some large bodybuilders and even strongmen competitors who trained at that gym also. The simple fact is that I can count with one finger the number times I ever saw somebody in the gym doing a legit bench press with 405. I can count on one hand the number of guys who did a legit bench with over 315.
Unsurprisingly, in the real world, most people have no idea what strong is. This might be partly because of equipped lifting (i.e. 1200 pound bench press etc) but it is also simply highlights the fact that people don't actually train with heavy weights - if they did they would know that a 405 bench press is waaaay above average.
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397# @ 106 BW ... Strictest judging in the world, strictest drug testing in the world.
You're bragging about 405 @ 275...You fat weakling scum.
Pfft that's not even 400... nice "lift"
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It downplays their embarrassment and shame at being the subordinate male in that situation. They can't say "oh yeah I bench 450 for reps" because you can ask them to prove it on the spot. They can however claim that they know others who bench such numbers to make it seem as if a 415 bench is no big deal.
I used to play on my university rugby team and when we trained at the college gym there were some VERY strong, large athletes. Most of these big guys played on the rugby team but there were some large bodybuilders and even strongmen competitors who trained at that gym also. The simple fact is that I can count with one finger the number times I ever saw somebody in the gym doing a legit bench press with 405. I can count on one hand the number of guys who did a legit bench with over 315.
Unsurprisingly, in the real world, most people have no idea what strong is. This might be partly because of equipped lifting (i.e. 1200 pound bench press etc) but it is also simply highlights the fact that people don't actually train with heavy weights - if they did they would know that a 405 bench press is waaaay above average.
Another one I often hear is when someone says "I used to be able to do X amount of weight but injuries have taken their toll”. The “X amount of weight” is always something way above what they are currently doing and is almost certainly a weight that they’ve probably never gone close to lifting. :D
Great post overall and agree with every word.
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Another one I often hear is when someone says "I used to be able to do X amount of weight but injuries have taken their toll”. The “X amount of weight” is always something way above what they are currently doing and is almost certainly a weight that they’ve probably never gone close to lifting. :D
That's actually a real situation with me, but I don't feel the need to say what I used to do. Nobody's ever given me a trophy or money because I used to bench more.
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That's actually a real situation with me, but I don't feel the need to say what I used to do. Nobody's ever given me a trophy or money because I used to bench more.
Not saying that it isnt always the case.
Just more that whenever I'm training in the gym, some random guy will sometimes start chatting to me and give me a briefing about the weights he "used" to lift. Sometimes its believable but sometimes its straight up horseshit. :D
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Not saying that it isnt always the case.
Just more that whenever I'm training in the gym, some random guy will sometimes start chatting to me and give me a briefing about the weights he "used" to lift. Sometimes its believable but sometimes its straight up horseshit. :D
Totally agree. Everyone's been a powerhouse at some point, apparently.
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Just so happens tonight was my heavy bench day.
I worked up to 415 ... and some guys from my work (who were there) started saying, So-and-so from work can press 400, and, Yeah, so-and-so from work can shoulder press 400 ... And then, towards the end of my session, this juiced "physique competitor", who says he's prepping for a contest in six weeks, says, When I am heavy in the off season at around 245, I do about 450 for six.
I know the first two guys from work for whom my workmates make those claims. The first is some 170-pound dude who is muscular but would get buried under 400. The second is a husky-looking fellow who'd suffer a crushed cranium if he attempted shoulder pressing 400 (the guy who made the claim says it was on a machine ... oh, brother). And the third guy, with the 450 for six claim? I SERIOUSLY doubt this.
Just another wank talking out his ass.
Why is it when someone who has a decent bench is lifting, all these claims come out of the woodwork from those in the peanut gallery?
Yeah, my uncle's best friend's cousin can bench 650 for eight, dude! ::)
Totally pisses me off.
Every skinny fuck that ever lived has benched at least 405 for reps minimum at one time or another.
They only stopped training because they didn`t want to get too strong.
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Every skinny fuck that ever lived has benched at least 405 for reps minimum at one time or another.
They only stopped training because they didn`t want to get too strong.
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lol
people need to stop bullshitting so much and let the body do the talking
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I used to bench 500 for reps but now I'm going for the health look and just do 135.
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A 315 bench is still impressive, you don't see it that often , yes it happens, but not all that often generally speaking. If you train at a serious gym then it's probably everyday occurrence, but at most "regular" gyms with regular gym rats, 315 is still a big deal. Take a walk down the mall or go out to eat and look around, MOST of those people would be crushed with 315, I have said nothing new I know but it surprises me how many people laugh at a 3 wheel bench
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Totally agree. Everyone's been a powerhouse at some point, apparently.
I've got partners that try to reset to their biggest bench when we lay down a new cycle of programming...no dude...what did u bench on the platform, that's how much u bench period, especially if its what everybody has seen in training and you didn't get dinged for an early rack or something. People will come out of their way to say how much their cousins brother benches....never had anybody say that about a deadlift..or squat.
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I actually do know a guy who reckons his dad could bench 800lbs in their garage!
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how do you embed this?
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I've been working on my bench hard.
I hit 140kg x 8 on monday.
Last competition I hit 150kg with a pause (which felt ridiculously easy).
6'1 and about 228lbs atm. I am fat though, prob 14% body fat (want to cut down but I want to hit 300kg deadlift first). My strength drastically tails off once my bodyfat is sub 10%.
Which leaves me with a conundrum; either chase strength gains at 12-15% body fat (which I must admit is more enjoyable than pure bodybuilding). Or focus on titrating calories down and becoming sexy once again.
You could always compromise, m'man. I don't think you'd lose a ton of strength if you slowly came down a bodyfat percentage, or even two; it's all about planning and how you burn it off. With a decent lifting regimen you should at LEAST be able to maintain during/after that.
Regardless, you're keen to hit that big pull first. Do that, then think about fricking about with your diet. Otherwise, I reckon you'll never forgive yourself.
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It downplays their embarrassment and shame at being the subordinate male in that situation. They can't say "oh yeah I bench 450 for reps" because you can ask them to prove it on the spot. They can however claim that they know others who bench such numbers to make it seem as if a 415 bench is no big deal.
I used to play on my university rugby team and when we trained at the college gym there were some VERY strong, large athletes. Most of these big guys played on the rugby team but there were some large bodybuilders and even strongmen competitors who trained at that gym also. The simple fact is that I can count with one finger the number times I ever saw somebody in the gym doing a legit bench press with 405. I can count on one hand the number of guys who did a legit bench with over 315.
Unsurprisingly, in the real world, most people have no idea what strong is. This might be partly because of equipped lifting (i.e. 1200 pound bench press etc) but it is also simply highlights the fact that people don't actually train with heavy weights - if they did they would know that a 405 bench press is waaaay above average.
Good points.
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how do you embed this?
Take the s out dumass. ::)
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works out at my gym
402 RAW MF'ers @142 Natty (and don't start crying cause you cant push up heavy weight)
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The bench itself never hurt me, but since I tore my pec muscle STRETCHING (yes, crazy huh) I cant bench pain free anymore. I benched elbows in, tuck, 1 second pause etc but its still no good anymore. Thankfully incline and DB is pain free.
agree on the weight numbers, even when I was training at Gold's Venice there was usually only one or two other guys who would go over 4 plates with me on the bench and they were 260+ NPC superheavy monsters. 405 is something you hardly ever see done properly in any gym outside of PLing gyms.
that was using the slingshot... I could do 405 for 5 without it at the time, and for 3 with a pause. It was a complete waste of time imo.
Slingshot or no Slingshot,that was fucking impressive Mawse.
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Every skinny fuck that ever lived has benched at least 405 for reps minimum at one time or another.
They only stopped training because they didn`t want to get too strong.
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so true
ive lost count of the amount of 400-500 pound benches ive heard about during an otherwise fine evenings drinking down my local working mans club.
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works out at my gym
402 RAW MF'ers @142 Natty (and don't start crying cause you cant push up heavy weight)
Amazing, yes. However, if he had any legs whatsoever, he might weigh a little more.
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so true
ive lost count of the amount of 400-500 pound benches ive heard about during an otherwise fine evenings drinking down my local working mans club.
I hear you bud.....you hear about them constantly,but never see them.
I wonder why ? ;D
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I hear you, bud ... You hear about them constantly, but you never see them.
Exactly. Been going to gyms without pause for well over 25 years and I can count on two hands the legit 400-pound benches I have witnessed (full rep, controlled, paused, no bounce ... ).
(Only one 500-pound press, raw. And this was at a gym bench-off and the competitor was a naturally-strong bencher who was popping Anadrol like Tic Tacs. His rep was clean and even but painfully slow to lock out.)
And I have lifted at some VERY serious/hardcore/famous gyms.
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Exactly. Been going to gyms without pause for well over 25 years and I can count on two hands the legit 400-pound benches I have witnessed (full rep, controlled, paused, no bounce ... ).
(Only one 500-pound press, raw. And this was at a gym bench-off and the competitor was a naturally-strong bencher who was popping Anadrol like Tic Tacs. His rep was clean and even but painfully slow to lock out.)
And I have lifted at some VERY serious/hardcore/famous gyms.
545 raw touch n go was the most I've ever seen in person in a 'normal' gym ( a Goodlife in London Ontario) from a huge 350lb block of farm boy jello who would always claim to be natural.
and 455 for 4 in Golds venice - with a terrible loose setup and flared elbows from a huge black gentleman who I believe won the NPC cali SHW a few years back
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I saw Army powerlifting champion press 600 at Ft Drum in 95
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What raw?
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Enough
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Benching? Why would I fuck with my delts? ::)
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I was at a bench / pull competition as a spectator a few weeks back in a big city, lots of gyms, big guys etc...
ONE guy did a legit 402 bench press- competition-( 100 kg weight class, in a tested fed.) a few guys were in the high three's, most were in the lower three's
Point being, a LEGIT competition 365 bench or higher is a heckuva lift
How many guys on Get Big can hit 365 or better with good form- ? Maybe 10 ?
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I was at a bench / pull competition as a spectator a few weeks back in a big city, lots of gyms, big guys etc...
ONE guy did a legit 402 bench press- competition-( 100 kg weight class, in a tested fed.) a few guys were in the high three's, most were in the lower three's
Point being, a LEGIT competition 365 bench or higher is a heckuva lift
How many guys on Get Big can hit 365 or better with good form- ? Maybe 10 ?
because of the form issue, and flat out lies issues
why bother trying to impress people with benching
just do useful exercises for the tits
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Max i spotted was 4 plates each side for 4 reps.
205 pound 5"7 fella on a gram of sauce.
My injuries only allow me to do dumbell benches with the 90lbs.
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What raw?
No pulling out either.
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275 for 2 1/2 ;D today deep good form 40 lbs from goal
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A lot, a fucking lot.
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I saw Army powerlifting champion press 600 at Ft Drum in 95
You don't see big numbers from the military like you used to.....the teams and sport isn't supported like it used to be. Guys like Gene Bell setting world records etc. We're having a strongman contest on my base in the middle of next month and they're starting with a 5K..WTF. I walking it....
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I've been doing nothing but push-ups for almost the past year. I'm up to almost 70 without stopping, although I do rest/pause at the top of the rep when needed and am doing so between every rep towards the end. I do this three times a week and try to add one rep/week. I'm interested to see how it has affected my barbell bench, which I have never been especially good at.
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Grab a deck of cards on your pushup day and try and work through the whole deck....10-30 second pause between cards if you want.
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Grab a deck of cards on your pushup day and try and work through the whole deck....10-30 second pause between cards if you want.
Can I print out the pictures of prominent Getbiggers and use them in place of the Jack/Queen/King/Ace?
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Grab a deck of cards on your pushup day and try and work through the whole deck....10-30 second pause between cards if you want.
Erm? So what happens if I get a King or whatever?
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You don't see big numbers from the military like you used to.....the teams and sport isn't supported like it used to be. Guys like Gene Bell setting world records etc. We're having a strongman contest on my base in the middle of next month and they're starting with a 5K..WTF. I walking it....
I got to train with him for 18 or so months before he got transferred to another base. Short and huge SSGT funny too
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No gear either? Im sure the military don't use
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Erm? So what happens if I get a King or whatever?
Color cards are 10...ace could be 15....
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No gear either? Im sure the military don't use
he was on gear, I don't know what.... but he told me he was.....army didn't check for PED
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No gear either? Im sure the military don't use
600lb bench natural. ::)
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600lb bench natural. ::)
Maybe he's "Country Strong".
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405 at the moment coming off a broken hand, not bad eh :D
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600lb bench natural. ::)
I hit a 605 touch n go in contest and 578 with a really long pause in a contest without the use of drugs. I had been clean for 3.5 yrs not even as much as a prohormone in me. Granted I weighed almost 400 pounds but still 600 plus drugfree is possible. Ohhh and yes I passed a legit piss test on the 578 so call bullshit if you wish :)
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I hit a 605 touch n go in contest and 578 with a really long pause in a contest without the use of drugs. I had been clean for 3.5 yrs not even as much as a prohormone in me. Granted I weighed almost 400 pounds but still 600 plus drugfree is possible. Ohhh and yes I passed a legit piss test on the 578 so call bullshit if you wish :)
wow, you are a genetic freak ;), what's your best all time bench?
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I hit a 605 touch n go in contest and 578 with a really long pause in a contest without the use of drugs. I had been clean for 3.5 yrs not even as much as a prohormone in me. Granted I weighed almost 400 pounds but still 600 plus drugfree is possible. Ohhh and yes I passed a legit piss test on the 578 so call bullshit if you wish :)
Very impressive. I wouldn’t have believed that 600lbs could possibly be achieved without drugs had I not read your post.
Do you have any pics of yourself at 400lbs?
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Those are my best raw contest lifts right there. I wont add bench shirt cause no one here cares hahah. When I was jacked up on the good stuff I did a 650 touch n go in the gym and was doing 600 for 3 solid reps.
Super Ted just google me there are pics from 400 plus down to 235. My BW is all over the place hahaha!
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Those are my best raw contest lifts right there. I wont add bench shirt cause no one here cares hahah. When I was jacked up on the good stuff I did a 650 touch n go in the gym and was doing 600 for 3 solid reps.
Super Ted just google me there are pics from 400 plus down to 235. My BW is all over the place hahaha!
Just seen the pics. Holy shit! Big fucking dude. :o
What was your max squat/dl?
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:o
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[405 for a boatload of reps]
Damn :o
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:o
:o :o :o :o 8)
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Wolfe is the real deal... Saw him at New England Record Breakers back in 2006...
Pretty fuuny, looking at this post from Powerlifting watch, this guy was trying to pump up that contest:
Submitted by Dave Cosnotti on March 25, 2006 - 5:59pm. » login to post comments
Good idea. Make your NERB reservations now. Tickets will be on sale around April 1st and it looks like this will sell out fast. The MMA crowd usually fills the events they have in that area and its usually only around 2500 people. They told me that with an event of this nature, we should double that number and that’s not counting the Powerlifting and Bikini Contest.
Hotels in the area are already filling up so book those fast. If you go to the Mullins Centers website you can see a list of hotels. Click on the Record Breakers poster and the link is on the bottom.
See you there.
Dave!
There was only like 50 people in the crowd, oh well :-\
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315 is a sold bench. When consider how many people do the bench press as a whole and how many can actually ever get 315, I would bet it is only about 3-4%.
I actually tried 3 plates a couple of days ago (I'm at my highest bodyweight now) and it was tough, but I brought it up (with the aid of a spotter). It used to be so much easier back when I was 19-27. I'm 36 now and feeling weaker. Muscles just don't respond the way they used to.
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315 is VERY respectable for the bench press, serious weight for sure
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I actually tried 3 plates a couple of days ago (I'm at my highest bodyweight now) and it was tough, but I brought it up (with the aid of a spotter). It used to be so much easier back when I was 19-27. I'm 36 now and feeling weaker. Muscles just don't respond the way they used to.
I use to warm up with 225 now 275 feels like 355......oooold
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Onlyme hit 615 didnt he?
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I was at a bench / pull competition as a spectator a few weeks back in a big city, lots of gyms, big guys etc...
ONE guy did a legit 402 bench press- competition-( 100 kg weight class, in a tested fed.) a few guys were in the high three's, most were in the lower three's
Point being, a LEGIT competition 365 bench or higher is a heckuva lift
How many guys on Get Big can hit 365 or better with good form- ? Maybe 10 ?
I don't know if I agree with this. . Most guys are familiar with Block periodization.how high level powerlifters and athletes train and .it goes like this.
accumulation phase
transmutation
realization (de-load phase)
the realization phase or de-load whatever you call it allows for a period of super compensation. This is when you peak for a meet. Your lifts will be a lot more than you would normally be capable of. Add cheque drops, pre lift physche ups, these guys are getting a lot out of their lifts. Nothing against the sport but to me that's bullshit. ..true strength is what a guy can do any given day, at any given time. That's the reason ronnie and kevin levrone's lifts were so impressive to me. These guys were tired...detrained..not even training for strength and reaping 500 like paper.
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Onlyme hit 615 didnt he?
I thought it was 500.
He also admitted to being on 1cc of test per day for 6 months straight.
not taking anything away from the big guy.
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Onlyme hit 615 didnt he?
Wouldn't doubt if he approached that number.
His specialty was behind neck presses if I remember correctly.
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I thought it was 500.
He also admitted to being on 1cc of test per day for 6 months straight.
not taking anything away from the big guy.
Lol, how do guy's that are pumping that much liquid into their bodies not die of infections?
That's 7 mls of liquid a week!
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Lol, how do guy's that are pumping that much liquid into their bodies not die of infections?
That's 7 mls of liquid a week!
your joking right? even the the smallest pros take 3cc gear per day.
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your joking right? even the the smallest pros take 3cc gear per day.
I am aware of that.
It is just boggling though.
I use 1cc a week.
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your joking right? even the the smallest pros take 3cc gear per day.
daft c.unt.
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your joking right? even the the smallest pros take 3cc 8 cc gear per day.
fixed
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I don't know if I agree with this. . Most guys are familiar with Block periodization.how high level powerlifters and athletes train and .it goes like this.
accumulation phase
transmutation
realization (de-load phase)
the realization phase or de-load whatever you call it allows for a period of super compensation. This is when you peak for a meet. Your lifts will be a lot more than you would normally be capable of. Add cheque drops, pre lift physche ups, these guys are getting a lot out of their lifts. Nothing against the sport but to me that's bullshit. ..true strength is what a guy can do any given day, at any given time. That's the reason ronnie and kevin levrone's lifts were so impressive to me. These guys were tired...detrained..not even training for strength and reaping 500 like paper.
Good point
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today.....315 for 3/4 shallow :-X.
275 deep for 4.
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Furious Pete benches 405 for 2 almost 3.
Claims natural.
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Furious Pete's platonic training-partner looks very estrogenic.
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switched up training methods past couple weeks.
hit 275 and 250 for 20, then couple barely get 225 for 15, then a measly 185 for two sets of 20... then all the other stuff for sets of 20. helluva ego blow when you gotta use 50% of what you normally use. lol
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switched up training methods past couple weeks.
hit 275 and 250 for 20, then couple barely get 225 for 15, then a measly 185 for two sets of 20... then all the other stuff for sets of 20. helluva ego blow when you gotta use 50% of what you normally use. lol
Jesus fucking christ dude you have been thoroughly exposed as a scrawny pathological liar, why do you even continue to post here? No one fucking cares what you have to say, let alone BELIEVE YOU!
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Jesus fucking christ dude you have been thoroughly exposed as a scrawny pathological liar, why do you even continue to post here? No one fucking cares what you have to say, let alone BELIEVE YOU!
"helluva ego blow when you gotta use 50% of what you normally use. lol"
are you saying it's not believable that he's usually benching 550?
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Is ESFitness claiming to bench 550 for 20?
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Jesus fucking christ dude you have been thoroughly exposed as a scrawny pathological liar, why do you even continue to post here? No one fucking cares what you have to say, let alone BELIEVE YOU!
'exposed' ? lol
dude, you're a dickriding bandwagon pussy... exposed by whom? for what? scrawny pathological liar? everything I've said about myself is fact, including you being a dickriding bandwagon pussy.
'thoroughly' lol... how so? by your daddy posting pics when I was either just out of prison or just out of the hospital? probably 50 pics he could've chose from, yet the smallest get posted. and you gullible little twinks jump all over it.
never said I was a heavy bencher, btw. 315 or 335 at bw of 235 ain't all that impressive to most ppl
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"helluva ego blow when you gotta use 50% of what you normally use. lol"
are you saying it's not believable that he's usually benching 550?
the 50% of what I normally would be repping would be db flyes/machine flyes, ect...
go back and read the rest of the thread.. nowhere have I ever claimed a 550lb bench.. jesus you guys are fucking morons.
not to mention you behave like little schoolgirls.. like gossiping little bitches on their periods.
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45 at a high volume 8)
45lbs :'(
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haven't benched for months now
will try to struggle with 2 plates next time ;D
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Hmm.....how much to clips weigh?
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switched up training methods past couple weeks.
hit 275 and 250 for 20, then couple barely get 225 for 15, then a measly 185 for two sets of 20... then all the other stuff for sets of 20. helluva ego blow when you gotta use 50% of what you normally use. lol
Haven't really checked much on this forum the past couple days and without fail the first thing I pull up is another classic ESFitness bullshit lie.
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Haven't really checked much on this forum the past couple days and without fail the first thing I pull up is another classic ESFitness bullshit lie.
what exactly are you claiming is a lie?
btw, dude, you're a fucking bitch 100%. your father should be ashamed for producing such a whiny little estrogen filled pussy such as yourself.
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switched up training methods past couple weeks.
hit 275 and 250 for 20, then couple barely get 225 for 15, then a measly 185 for two sets of 20... then all the other stuff for sets of 20. helluva ego blow when you gotta use 50% of what you normally use. lol
Hahahahahaha
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Hahahahahaha
X2
Looks like we got us a live one.
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My bench sucks. I've got weak shoulders. :(
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Has ESF posted a pic? 275 for 20?
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Has ESF posted a pic? 275 for 20?
Well he claimed that's only 50% of what he usually benchs.
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Well he claimed that's only 50% of what he usually benchs.
He must be a beast!!!
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Well he claimed that's only 50% of what he usually benchs.
did you read the entire thread?
no need to answer, I can see you're a moron.
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Has ESF posted a pic? 275 for 20?
you can't hit 2 plates and a quarter for 20 for a first set? lol
you should be embarrassed if you can't, since I'm a shitty bencher and always have been.
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you can't hit 2 plates and a quarter for 20 for a first set? lol
you should be embarrassed if you can't, since I'm a shitty bencher and always have been.
Some of us arent juice monkeys and are shitty benchers too. :D
But you're avoiding the question, where oh where is your pic?
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He must be a beast!!!
:D
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275 for a clean 20 is pretty impressive and should put your max I would say somewhere in the low 400 range. Would love to see a video.
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you can't hit 2 plates and a quarter for 20 for a first set? lol
you should be embarrassed if you can't, since I'm a shitty bencher and always have been.
I certainly cant, and I was a mid 400's raw bencher...
are these Cswol-like reps by any chance? ::)
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/33cohfd.jpg)
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lol @ 275 for 20 being "shitty"
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130 percent of bodyweight
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did you read the entire thread?
no need to answer, I can see you're a moron.
Actually I did. And me reading the entire thread has nothing to do with your retarded claims. What are you even trying to imply?
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you can't hit 2 plates and a quarter for 20 for a first set? lol
you should be embarrassed if you can't, since I'm a shitty bencher and always have been.
ESFitness fucking up his almost zero reputation in this thread.
You are some asshole.
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275 for a clean 20 is pretty impressive and should put your max I would say somewhere in the low 400 range. Would love to see a video.
a clean 20? the last 7 I was dying. last 2 I was thinking I was gonna decapicate myself, since I don't use a spotter.
and I can't hit 400. on a good day with full meals and good rest I'm ok with 365 for 3. never gone above that.
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ESFitness fucking up his almost zero reputation in this thread.
You are some asshole.
another brilliant trolling post from you. 95% of your 'input' is trolling or flaming.. I may be an asshole, but you're a complete fucking loser. bitter old has-been.
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another brilliant trolling post from you. 95% of your 'input' is trolling or flaming.. I may be an asshole, but you're a complete fucking loser. bitter old has-been.
Who looks way better than you on a fraction of your consumption at 49 years old.
You may call me a "has been", its better than being a "never was"
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I did bench last night
10 sets of 10 two plates a side
don't see the point in going any heavier
no more injuries etc
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a clean 20? the last 7 I was dying. last 2 I was thinking I was gonna decapicate myself, since I don't use a spotter.
and I can't hit 400. on a good day with full meals and good rest I'm ok with 365 for 3. never gone above that.
on six grams a week?
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I did bench last night
10 sets of 10 two plates a side
don't see the point in going any heavier
no more injuries etc
Good benching right there...
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I want to do 315 for 8......That will make me happy.
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I want to do 315 for 8......That will make me happy.
And I want to do 500.
::)
goals are fine..but nobody gives a shit what your goals are, how much you want to do or think you can do.
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And I want to do 500.
::)
goals are fine..but nobody gives a shit what your goals are, how much you want to do or think you can do.
Why are you so unhappy? Hug?
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Why are you so unhappy? Hug?
315 x8 is very doable with some roid and dedication
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315 x8 is very doable with some roid and dedication
You don't necessarily need roids to do that..
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I did bench last night
10 sets of 10 two plates a side
don't see the point in going any heavier
no more injuries etc
I did that on Monday , well not with 2 plates a side my little self cant lift that much , but 10 x 10. Great workout
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You don't necessarily need roids to do that..
Yeah, but it's rare.
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315 x8 is very doable with some roid and dedication
disagree its more than 99% of AAS users will ever do (unless its the shitty 1/2 rep Brospot I usually see when people are 'benching' 315 in gyms)
remember you are talking to someone who thinks Simon Panda etc are natural, so best not to humor delusions.
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disagree its more than 99% of AAS users will ever do (unless its the shitty 1/2 rep Brospot I usually see when people are 'benching' 315 in gyms)
remember you are talking to someone who thinks Simon Panda etc are natural, so best not to humor delusions.
if you really train bench press it should be possible with steroids and decent genetics
but if you train like a bodybuilder, unlikely!
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if you really train bench press it should be possible with steroids and decent genetics
but if you train like a bodybuilder, unlikely!
If you train like a BBer you shouldn't give a shit about bench
I saw this 300lb sweatpig load up 405 the other day and kept looking in my direction obviously wanting a spot, I resolutely avoided eye contact and watched as he almost died trying to lift it.
he probably went home after and posted on bb.com or promuscle about how you have to lift and eat big to get big ::)
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on six grams a week?
read up dumbbass.
I don't use 6g year round. been on about about a gram of test and a gram of deca for a while now.
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read up dumbbass.
I don't use 6g year round. been on about about a gram of test and a gram of deca for a while now.
oh, so practically HRT then
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read up dumbbass.
I don't use 6g year round. been on about about a gram of test and a gram of deca for a while now.
You must look awesome.
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If you train like a BBer you shouldn't give a shit about bench
I saw this 300lb sweatpig load up 405 the other day and kept looking in my direction obviously wanting a spot, I resolutely avoided eye contact and watched as he almost died trying to lift it.
he probably went home after and posted on bb.com or promuscle about how you have to lift and eat big to get big ::)
exactly
i do dumbel presses in the 12-15 rep range with good control and feeling in the tits
flex wheeler told me in person
A BODYBUILDER SHOULD NOT TRAIN FOR STRENGTH, STRENGTH COMES AUTOMATICALLY (or obviously doesnt, in that case so be it)
coleman says "strength has nothing to do with bodybuilding"
"i really am not that concerned with how much weight i am doing because on stage the judges wont be concerned about it either, i am concerned about building quality muscle symmetrical and polished muscles"
now the knuckle heads are saying "but ronnie is so strong"
yes he was, but connect the fucking dots about what flex wheeler said, ronnie got insanely strong automatically, as a side effect of his muscular growth.
anyway, those who know will know, those who dont know dont know, some will learn, most will keep slamming their head in the wall with their ego lifting, so be it, i have spoken
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You must look awesome.
you must look like complete shit, with a personality to match. with all your time spent trolling msg boards and 'owning' people.
you're a bitter old washed up loser... keep repeating the line 'I look better than you'... it's obvious I don't care, and I seriously doubt anybody else does either (aside from your circle jerk buddies.. all 5 of them), so it's not like you're trying to 'convince' me, it's more like you're trying to convince yourself.
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exactly
i do dumbel presses in the 12-15 rep range with good control and feeling in the tits
flex wheeler told me in person
A BODYBUILDER SHOULD NOT TRAIN FOR STRENGTH, STRENGTH COMES AUTOMATICALLY (or obviously doesnt, in that case so be it)
coleman says "strength has nothing to do with bodybuilding"
"i really am not that concerned with how much weight i am doing because on stage the judges wont be concerned about it either, i am concerned about building quality muscle symmetrical and polished muscles"
now the knuckle heads are saying "but ronnie is so strong"
yes he was, but connect the fucking dots about what flex wheeler said, ronnie got insanely strong automatically, as a side effect of his muscular growth.
anyway, those who know will know, those who dont know dont know, some will learn, most will keep slamming their head in the wall with their ego lifting, so be it, i have spoken
(http://www.petsfoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/The-Sphynx3.jpg)
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you must look like complete shit, with a personality to match. with all your time spent trolling msg boards and 'owning' people.
you're a bitter old washed up loser... keep repeating the line 'I look better than you'... it's obvious I don't care, and I seriously doubt anybody else does either (aside from your circle jerk buddies.. all 5 of them), so it's not like you're trying to 'convince' me, it's more like you're trying to convince yourself.
2gms of gear to look skinny fat.
I dont know how you manage to sell any gear, it must all be mail order.
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My best bench at a bodyweight of 192 was 315 for 10 reps. 6 of which I did completely on my own 4 with slight spot.
Single, I did 350 at about the same weight. I never trained for max lifts always trained as a Bodybuilder.
That was a long time ago.
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bench technique makes a huge difference.
I'm guessing most guys here bench "like bodybuilders" with the elbows flared out and having the bar come up high on the chest.... I'll bet $7.35 that if the majority of you guys would train for 2 weeks with a powerlifter.. a legit powerlifter, you'd put 40lbs+ on your bench just by adjusting your technique... tucking your elbows, arch your back, drive with your feet, drop the bar down low below the nipples, "breaking the bar" (squeezing the fuck out of it, none of this 'suicide grip' nonsense) creating external rotation, exct ect ect...
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bench technique makes a huge difference.
I'm guessing most guys here bench "like bodybuilders" with the elbows flared out and having the bar come up high on the chest.... I'll bet $7.35 that if the majority of you guys would train for 2 weeks with a powerlifter.. a legit powerlifter, you'd put 40lbs+ on your bench just by adjusting your technique... tucking your elbows, arch your back, drive with your feet, drop the bar down low below the nipples, "breaking the bar" (squeezing the fuck out of it, none of this 'suicide grip' nonsense) creating external rotation, exct ect ect...
You should post a video of you benching 275 for 20 in this manner, just so we can see exactly what you mean.
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You should post a video of you benching 275 for 20 in this manner, just so we can see exactly what you mean.
;D
Hes a fucking Charlie Bubbles.
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You should post a video of you benching 275 for 20 in this manner, just so we can see exactly what you mean.
Camera broke, no videotaping allowed in gym, workout partner not there, nobody to hold camera, can't post video, too many tattoos/scars/distinguishable marks....etc, etc, etc....... ::)
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bench technique makes a huge difference.
I'm guessing most guys here bench "like bodybuilders" with the elbows flared out and having the bar come up high on the chest.... I'll bet $7.35 that if the majority of you guys would train for 2 weeks with a powerlifter.. a legit powerlifter, you'd put 40lbs+ on your bench just by adjusting your technique... tucking your elbows, arch your back, drive with your feet, drop the bar down low below the nipples, "breaking the bar" (squeezing the fuck out of it, none of this 'suicide grip' nonsense) creating external rotation, exct ect ect...
Those are solid points for a 1 - 3 rep max effort. Not sustainable for more than 5 IMO
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So general consensus is that my 315lb @ 170lb bench press is "respectable".
Good, great thread.
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Camera broke, no videotaping allowed in gym, workout partner not there, nobody to hold camera, can't post video, too many tattoos/scars/distinguishable marks....etc, etc, etc....... ::)
Still recovering from last underground cage-fight?
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Still recovering from last underground cage-fight?
Ahh yes, the old "accidentally sewd my fingers together stitching up wounds from a to the death brawl"
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So general consensus is that my 315lb @ 170lb bench press is "respectable".
Good, great thread.
Respectfully dissent.
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Some of us arent juice monkeys and are shitty benchers too. :D
But you're avoiding the question, where oh where is your pic?
I wish I had the strength of chaos.
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I can DB press a LittleJ in each hand.
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Those are solid points for a 1 - 3 rep max effort. Not sustainable for more than 5 IMO
should use that same form for everything from 1-3 to 6-9 to 8-12 to 15-20.
tweaked my elbow somehow today, so only hit 250 for 25 on the decline, then 225 for 20, after that I was toast.. only had about 1500 kcals up till then, finished out with a couple sets of 185 for 20 with an elbows-flared/bber-style form... then off to the machine presses/flyes
225-275 for sets of 20 are a helluva lot more taxing for me than sets of 365 for 1-3.
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you should be benching to build muscle
not cheating it with technique to get the most weight
injury waiting to happen
why would anyone need to go below 8 reps when body building
only for ego
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should use that same form for everything from 1-3 to 6-9 to 8-12 to 15-20.
tweaked my elbow somehow today, so only hit 250 for 25 on the decline, then 225 for 20, after that I was toast.. only had about 1500 kcals up till then, finished out with a couple sets of 185 for 20 with an elbows-flared/bber-style form... then off to the machine presses/flyes
225-275 for sets of 20 are a helluva lot more taxing for me than sets of 365 for 1-3.
ahhahahahahahahah....lik e that make any difference whatsoever.
You did eat the day before, right?
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should use that same form for everything from 1-3 to 6-9 to 8-12 to 15-20.
tweaked my elbow somehow today, so only hit 250 for 25 on the decline, then 225 for 20, after that I was toast.. only had about 1500 kcals up till then, finished out with a couple sets of 185 for 20 with an elbows-flared/bber-style form... then off to the machine presses/flyes
225-275 for sets of 20 are a helluva lot more taxing for me than sets of 365 for 1-3.
Using powerlifting bench press techniques for 20 rep sets ::)
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Using powerlifting bench press techniques for 20 rep sets ::)
you're criticizing my bench press form? lol... pull down your skirt dude, your panties are showing.
how should I be benching then, know it all?
should I bench like a bodybuilder, with my elbows flared so I can feel everything with my delts and triceps? instead of with my elbows tucked and feeling it with my chest and triceps?
after all, you know my body structure better than me.. right? idiot.
not to mention, elbows tucked is the ONLY way ANYBODY should be benching, unless you want shoulder injuries non-stop.... your post eliminates any 'training knowledge credit' you may have ever had on this forum. I seriously hope you don't pretend to be a 'personal trainer' and advise anybody else with your lame FLEX-Magazine 'knowledge'.
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Hard to criticize anyone's bench form if they haven't posted a video.
(http://www.nathanandbecky.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Tumbleweed_rolling_2.jpg)
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exactly
i do dumbel presses in the 12-15 rep range with good control and feeling in the tits
flex wheeler told me in person
A BODYBUILDER SHOULD NOT TRAIN FOR STRENGTH, STRENGTH COMES AUTOMATICALLY (or obviously doesnt, in that case so be it)
coleman says "strength has nothing to do with bodybuilding"
"i really am not that concerned with how much weight i am doing because on stage the judges wont be concerned about it either, i am concerned about building quality muscle symmetrical and polished muscles"
now the knuckle heads are saying "but ronnie is so strong"
yes he was, but connect the fucking dots about what flex wheeler said, ronnie got insanely strong automatically, as a side effect of his muscular growth.
anyway, those who know will know, those who dont know dont know, some will learn, most will keep slamming their head in the wall with their ego lifting, so be it, i have spoken
You haven't the foggiest. There are so many buts to go along with what these two musclemen have said. But as I say, you have zero clue. And I am not going to spell it out for you, because even if I did, you still wouldn't grasp a thing.
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My best bench at a bodyweight of 192 was 315 for 10 reps. 6 of which I did completely on my own 4 with slight spot.
Single, I did 350 at about the same weight. I never trained for max lifts always trained as a Bodybuilder.
That was a long time ago.
So your best bench was 315 for 6 ... NOT 10. Six is your all-time best, remember that. Not 10.
And ... were you on drugs of any anabolic type?
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So your best bench was 315 for 6 ... NOT 10. Six is your all-time best, remember that. Not 10.
And ... were you on drugs of any anabolic type?
25mgs of D'bol thats it. Don't forget the 350 for a single.
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25mgs of D'bol thats it. Don't forget the 350 for a single.
Never said it wasn't a decent bench. Just pointing out that, when you're telling folks about your best benching, don't spout that you did 10 with 315. You did six.
And 350 isn't bad at all, no.
Regarding the steroid question, it's worth noting such "help", because this kind of help helps A LOT.
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You haven't the foggiest. There are so many buts to go along with what these two musclemen have said. But as I say, you have zero clue. And I am not going to spell it out for you, because even if I did, you still wouldn't grasp a thing.
ronnie and kenneth know better than you
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Never said it wasn't a decent bench. Just pointing out that, when you're telling folks about your best benching, don't spout that you did 10 with 315. You did six.
And 350 isn't bad at all, no.
Regarding the steroid question, it's worth noting such "help", because this kind of help helps A LOT.
Could of lied and said 10 unassisted. The question was best bench not if you were clean or not.
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ronnie and kenneth know better than you
About drugs and bodybuilding contest prep, sure. But I am quite confident my knowledge of weight training, in all its permutations, is greater than that of these two.
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Hard to criticize anyone's bench form if they haven't posted a video.
(http://www.nathanandbecky.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Tumbleweed_rolling_2.jpg)
I find it amusing that you whine and cry for me to post a picture when it's you and your little butt-buddies that are the ones claiming that they look better than everybody else, not me. I've never made that claim.
btw, after reading your posts, I can see you are 100% bitch-made insecure little sissy.
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Correct me if I'm misunderstanding the post, but does that mean you won't be posting a video of 275 x 20 done with proper form?
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how unexpectedly disappointing .. I was really hoping we'd get to see a great example of how to bench correctly.
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If you train like a BBer you shouldn't give a shit about bench
I saw this 300lb sweatpig load up 405 the other day and kept looking in my direction obviously wanting a spot, I resolutely avoided eye contact and watched as he almost died trying to lift it.
he probably went home after and posted on bb.com or promuscle about how you have to lift and eat big to get big ::)
that's what weak people say.
"its not about how big you are its about what you do with it" thats what guys with small dicks say to women.
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that's what weak people say.
I don't bench anymore as it's a stupid lift but occasionally I get retarded and do foolish things with dips or dbs.
I'm no ESF when it comes to benching, obviously, but do tell me more about what weak people say? :-*
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I don't bench anymore as it's a stupid lift but occasionally I get retarded and do foolish things with dips or dbs.
I'm no ESF when it comes to benching, obviously, but do tell me more about what weak people say? :-*
not trying to be a dick but a dip doesn't really mean anything because its so hard to judge. a dumbbell shoulder press, or a dumbbell bench press would suffice.
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not trying to be a dick but a dip doesn't really mean anything
LOL. Go watch how girls do on the dip bars during any police training course. They'll be lucky to pull off 2 full body dips. No upper body strength at all.
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not trying to be a dick but a dip doesn't really mean anything because its so hard to judge. a dumbbell shoulder press, or a dumbbell bench press would suffice.
yes, dipping 500lbs total is practically the equivalent of a 90lb hammer strength decline.
but if you insist
obviously im a pissant bencher compared to mike wolfe etc
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yes, dipping 500lbs total is practically the equivalent of a 90lb hammer strength decline.
but if you insist
obviously im a pissant bencher compared to mike wolfe etc
props
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yes, dipping 500lbs total is practically the equivalent of a 90lb hammer strength decline.
but if you insist
obviously im a pissant bencher compared to mike wolfe etc
that's the best form ive ever seen on a vid posted on here
good work 8)
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I benched 135 for a few reps and 225 for 4 or 5 yesterday. Fast enough, so even now I could probably hit 315 for a single. I can still move my shoulder today, so perhaps I can get back into benching a bit. Sucks not being able to do any form of pressing for 6 months. ::)
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that's the best form ive ever seen on a vid posted on here
good work 8)
mawse is strong as fuck.
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Stopped Barbell Flat Benching and Incline benching a long time ago. Will only use Smith machine rarely go over 225. Still love Incline dumbbell flyes and cable crossovers. Flex used to make an Incline Bench machine that had a bench that was on a 30 degree angle that was awesome. Worked upper chest without burning your shoulders out before your chest.
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About drugs and bodybuilding contest prep, sure. But I am quite confident my knowledge of weight training, in all its permutations, is greater than that of these two.
hahahahahaha
delusions on getbig reach new levels
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hahahahahaha
delusions on getbig reach new levels
It's not a stretch considering I was interviewing Ronnie (and ghostwriting his articles) years before his O wins ... and educating him on the names of some of the machines/exercises he employs. He didn't know a heck of a lot for a guy as developed as he was, and became.
Sorry to ruin your Coleman-crush, brah.
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Fortress is gigantic for those who don't know.
lol @ "I bench 315x10 but needed a spot on the last four "reps"" :D
I benched 135 for a few reps and 225 for 4 or 5 yesterday. Fast enough, so even now I could probably hit 315 for a single. I can still move my shoulder today, so perhaps I can get back into benching a bit. Sucks not being able to do any form of pressing for 6 months. ::)
Maybe I am misunderstanding but if the best you can do with 225 is "4 or 5" (can't remember ???) there's no way you are getting 315.
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This morning 305 for 2 solid deep, 315 no go :-[ needed finger help when tri's kicked in.....close.
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Maybe I am misunderstanding but if the best you can do with 225 is "4 or 5" (can't remember ???) there's no way you are getting 315.
That's just what I did last Friday after not pressing any exercise for months. I stopped at 4 or 5 because of a tweak in my injured shoulder, but could have easily done more. No idea how many more though. Could have had 10 total in me, could have been 14-15. And speaking from experience that would put me at or over 315 again -- I suck at high reps. But I'm not going to live dangerously. Just a slow buildup of 10 Lbs per session, and see where it takes me. World record by September. ;D
FYI: years ago I benched 315x1 the first day after coming back from a 5-year layoff, so I'm not bragging but lamenting! >:(
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Lots of world class benchers with no videos in this thread.
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Lots of world class benchers with no videos in this thread.
But videos would expose their bullshit and spoil the fun. ;D
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Lots of world class benchers with no videos in this thread.
Hope you are not referring to me because 315 is pathetic. :-[
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Hope you are not referring to me because 315 is pathetic. :-[
315 is far from pathetic. Even a +600lb bencher like Mike Wolfe has stated this previously in this thread:
But for who ever said a 315 was not a big bench you are freaking CRAZY!!! I would be willing to bet less then 10% of people that lift weights and go to the gym on a consistent basis can do a legit 315 bench press. I own and operate my own gym and other then my power lifters there are only a handful of guys who can bench 3 plates a side. 315 is a good solid bench, 405 is a great bench and 500 plus raw is GOD LIKE to most people!!!! Just saying!!!
You said you benched 315 after a 5 year layoff!? That is pretty darn impressive. Do you mean that you didn't just train bench for those 5 years or that you didn't train at all?
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Who was the getbigger recently who made the classic excuse that he couldn't post photos because his scanner was broken?
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315 is far from pathetic. Even a +600lb bencher like Mike Wolfe has stated this previously in this thread:
You said you benched 315 after a 5 year layoff!? That is pretty darn impressive. Do you mean that you didn't just train bench for those 5 years or that you didn't train at all?
Didn't train at all. But in all fairness it was just a 1x bodyweight bench at the time. :-X
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I know a dude who benched 200kg first time in the gym after years of not working out. Freaks do exist.
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Seriously, How many guys on GB can bench 315 clean ? Might be surprising how few can do it when compared to the amount of traffic on GB- I don't know myself- but it would show 315 is a decent bench anywhere
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Seriously, How many guys on GB can bench 315 clean ? Might be surprising how few can do it when compared to the amount of traffic on GB- I don't know myself- but it would show 315 is a decent bench anywhere
I did it about 12 years ago at about 186lbs. I think it would flatten me now.
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Seriously, How many guys on GB can bench 315 clean ? Might be surprising how few can do it when compared to the amount of traffic on GB- I don't know myself- but it would show 315 is a decent bench anywhere
As has been mentioned several times in this thread by several different posters, 315 is in general a very strong bench for an "unassisted" lifter using good form and no spot.
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As has been mentioned several times in this thread by several different posters, 315 is in general a very strong bench for an "unassisted" lifter using good form and no spot.
I wish I actually knew the right way to bench back then - bending the bar, leg drive etc....
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I did it about 12 years ago at about 186lbs. I think it would flatten me now.
Props for your honesty.
315 x 5 was my heaviest at around 180lbs. Never in 30 years of training have I tried a single.
Heavy benching is definitely a young man's game.
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I never attempted a 1RM at my strongest, which was a whopping 185 lbs. I doubt I could have done 315. Maybe 300, 305.
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Props for your honesty.
315 x 5 was my heaviest at around 180lbs. Never in 30 years of training have I tried a single.
Heavy benching is definitely a young man's game.
I did the Sean Phillips "how to increase your bench 50lbs in 7 weeks" It actually worked. 315 was the "goal" weight, but ended up getting 325 very smoothly, and got 335 half way. Did a burn set of 225 for 18 after, and remembered it feeling like 100lbs.
But, constant heavy shoulder training, improper warmups and routines, etc....have taken their toll. Had one shoulder surgery last year, and need the other done. I'd like to try the routine again, but am concentrating on more active stuff.
315 * 5 at 180 is great, by the way.
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I wish I actually knew the right way to bench back then - bending the bar, leg drive etc....
It made a big difference for me.
There was a sticky in the powerlifting section that took me from repping the the 270 range to repping in the 300 range just by improving my form.
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Seriously, How many guys on GB can bench 315 clean ? Might be surprising how few can do it when compared to the amount of traffic on GB- I don't know myself- but it would show 315 is a decent bench anywhere
I weigh a reasonably solid (for a powerlifter) 275 pounds. I am 44. (And for those who shriek "Permabulker!", I have competed in three bodybuilding contests. Funny how a majority of those who would charge such a thing haven't ever come near a competition stage. ::))
I can do a tight set of eight or 10, each repetition paused, with 315. Three hundred and sixty-five for a solid and paused five or six.
No drugs or hormones. No spot.
Barring injury, my max should be somewhere in the 430-440 range by this Fall.
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It made a big difference for me.
There was a sticky in the powerlifting section that took me from repping the the 270 range to repping in the 300 range just by improving my form.
My form is shit, I think this is a big reason why I've never been a good bencher. Every now and then I'll do a rep in the middle of my reps that just flies up and be like "Hmm what did I do there why was that so easy?" but have never been able to figure it out.
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My form is shit, I think this is a big reason why I've never been a good bencher. Every now and then I'll do a rep in the middle of my reps that just flies up and be like "Hmm what did I do there why was that so easy?" but have never been able to figure it out.
Its called a "spot"
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Its called a "spot"
;D
Gotta give you that one. Funny stuff.
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My form is shit, I think this is a big reason why I've never been a good bencher. Every now and then I'll do a rep in the middle of my reps that just flies up and be like "Hmm what did I do there why was that so easy?" but have never been able to figure it out.
I had pretty much been lifting instinctively for the longest time. The only "advice" I ever got was from the occasional older type guy in the gym. Getbig was and still is the only weightlifting site I have ever really followed and I didn't even start lurking here til 2007. I've probably bought 2 or 3 bodybuilding magazines my whole life.
So just basic stuff like driving through the balls of the feet, establishing a good base with your back, shoulders in tight and bar placement below the nipple were all concepts that I never even really considered but helped to make me progress and gave me more confidence in my lift.
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305lbs
245lbs x6 with a little bounce.
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Didn't train at all. But in all fairness it was just a 1x bodyweight bench at the time. :-X
Okay, as they say in Dutch: "meten is weten" [lit.: measuring is knowing]. Today I tried benching for the second time this year, just to see if I can hit 315 at all.
After first training shoulders and tris to failure, I proceeded to bench the following in a grand total of 6 minutes:
10xbar,
5x135,
4x225,
1x265,
1x305 (very easy),
10x225 (stopped at 10 because I had forgotten to breathe all 10 reps. ;D).
Could probably have done 355 if I'd tried it fresh. Actually moderately pleased with that. Hitting the lateral raises and tricep extensions hard has been good for me.
[edit] Bodyweight unknown, afraid it's around 260 now. And not a solid 260. :-X
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Can someone please explain these techniques that can raise your bench straight away
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Can someone please explain these techniques that can raise your bench straight away
The 100mgs of D-bol a day technique.
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Dbol bloats the fuck out of me and makes my nose bleed.
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Dbol bloats the fuck out of me and makes my nose bleed.
The essentials of a good bench press.
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The essentials of a good bench press.
The synergetic effect of a good pre lift punch in the face by a training partner coupled with a mega dose of Dbol is largely unrivaled.
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The synergetic effect of a good pre lift punch in the face by a training partner coupled with a mega dose of Dbol is largely unrivaled.
Well, as Darren seems to be familiar with the Krays maybe have someone drop a car off a jack onto him, that should bring forth the beast.
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Can someone please explain these techniques that can raise your bench straight away
Sure, but seriously not advisable at all, especially if you are not used to it.
100mg TNE, 100mg D-bol, 20mg Halo, 100mg of ephedrine, 600mg of caffiene
put 75lb on your bench instantly if you don't die, this is enough to give an elephant a heart attack but it works.
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Well, as Darren seems to be familiar with the Krays maybe have someone drop a car off a jack onto him, that should bring forth the beast.
Na Krays were before my time. The Adams are the Daddys nowadays.
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Na Krays were before my time. The Adams are the Daddys nowadays.
Theres an Addams family joke there somewhere but im too tired.
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Can someone please explain these techniques that can raise your bench straight away
maybe not the 'same day', you'll have to get used to the technique, but ditching the 'bodybuilding style' bench press is the first thing you'll want to do.
if you don't have access to legit powerlifters, at least spend some time watching some louie simmons vid's.... well, watching AND listening.
wide grip (shorter range of motion... think sumo-dead)
squeeze the shit out of the bar, no 'suicide grip'.
'break the bar'... imagine breaking a stick/tree branch/pencil... it causes external rotation and brings your elbows in
bring you elbows in to your body
arch the shit out your lower back
drive with your feet... I drive with the balls of my feet, since I have long legs I 'tuck them back' to get arch in my back so my heels aren't on the ground usually... pinching your glutes helps drive feet into the ground... the bench should be a full-body movement.. sorta. not just chest/tris/delts.
bring the bar to your lower chest or even upper stomach... your forearms should be 90degrees to the floor (perpendicular to your body or the bench), hwo far the bar goes down depends on your arm length.
... that's a start.
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"Bodybuilding-style benching" is the fastest way to destroy your shoulders.
Ever since I learned how to press properly, my shoulders NEVER ache, in any way.
Basically, understand the importance of positioning your shoulders behind your chest. Pinch your shoulder blades together and keep a moderate arch (unless you desire to develop an extreme arch, as some do) in your back. And, as said, tuck your elbows.
Oh, and has also been said, have your lower pec line/upper stomach as the touch-point.
Bam ... more poundage moved and less shoulder stress.
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I hit 315 as a senior in high school. Best single was 455 but I only tried a single 2-3 times. I am certain I could have gone a decent bit higher but PL just wasn't ever my goal.
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maybe not the 'same day', you'll have to get used to the technique, but ditching the 'bodybuilding style' bench press is the first thing you'll want to do.
if you don't have access to legit powerlifters, at least spend some time watching some louie simmons vid's.... well, watching AND listening.
wide grip (shorter range of motion... think sumo-dead)
squeeze the shit out of the bar, no 'suicide grip'.
'break the bar'... imagine breaking a stick/tree branch/pencil... it causes external rotation and brings your elbows in
bring you elbows in to your body
arch the shit out your lower back
drive with your feet... I drive with the balls of my feet, since I have long legs I 'tuck them back' to get arch in my back so my heels aren't on the ground usually... pinching your glutes helps drive feet into the ground... the bench should be a full-body movement.. sorta. not just chest/tris/delts.
bring the bar to your lower chest or even upper stomach... your forearms should be 90degrees to the floor (perpendicular to your body or the bench), hwo far the bar goes down depends on your arm length.
... that's a start.
this is moronic
ego lifting at its finest
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Moronic is taking champagne to a hospital to celebrate your kids first birthday by trying to get your ex slut drunk so you can fuck her again and getting cockblocked.
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Moronic is taking champagne to a hospital to celebrate your kids first birthday by trying to get your ex slut drunk so you can fuck her again and getting cockblocked.
that's optimism not moronism
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"Bodybuilding-style benching" is the fastest way to destroy your shoulders.
Ever since I learned how to press properly, my shoulders NEVER ache, in anyway.
Basically, understand the importance of positioning your shoulders behind your chest. Pinch your shoulder blades together and keep a moderate arch (unless you desire to develop an extreme arch, as some do) in your back. And, as said, tuck your elbows.
Oh, and has also been said, have your lower pec line/upper stomach as the touch-point.
Bam ... more poundage moved and less shoulder stress.
This, I learned the hard way too and fucked up my right shoulder.
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I find DBs are infinitely easier on my shoulders than BB
Especially if I'm doing 8 reps for mass or 12 reps for cuts
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Moronic is taking champagne to a hospital to celebrate your kids first birthday by trying to get your ex slut drunk so you can fuck her again and getting cockblocked.
The fact that he's on here bragging about how much of an unfit father he is shows how stupid and immature he is. If he had any common sense he would be ashamed to admit to how lousy a parent he is. Much less boast about it.
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The fact that he's on here bragging about how much of an unfit father he is shows how stupid and immature he is. If he had any common sense he would be ashamed to admit to how lousy a parent he is. Much less boast about it.
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I find DBs are infinitely easier on my shoulders than BB
Especially if I'm doing 8 reps for mass or 12 reps for cuts
I lolled after reading the quote below your avatar :D
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I lolled after reading the quote below your avatar :D
:D
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A friend of mine who started training recently actually was doing all that bro-science bullshit. He told me a few months back that for one week he does 6-8 reps to "build size" and the other week does 12-15 reps for "definition and sculpting".
I just starting LOL'ing. He looked at me all confused because he was being dead serious.
;D
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I believed in this bro-myth for many years; I was simply brainwashed.
Sure, there's a physiological difference between 5 and 50 reps, but 6, 8, 10 or 12... it doesn't matter.
Most people should rather worry about their training intensity & mindset.
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Stay in the 1-3-rep range if your goal is power
Best of luck and god bless
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I believed in this bro-myth for many years; I was simply brainwashed.
Sure, there's a physiological difference between 5 and 50 reps, but 6, 8, 10 or 12... it doesn't matter.
Most people should rather worry about their training intensity & mindset.
great now stop believing the rest of the bro science you are buying
corn flakes, pasta, bread are "for children"
"real men eat oats"
;D ;D ;D
epic bro science
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Oats (steel-cut, mind you) are most effective in the "mass-building" phase of your "program".
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A friend of mine who started training recently actually was doing all that bro-science bullshit. He told me a few months back that for one week he does 6-8 reps to "build size" and the other week does 12-15 reps for "definition and sculpting".
I just starting LOL'ing. He looked at me all confused because he was being dead serious.
;D
I know ... What a total joke.
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great now stop believing the rest of the bro science you are buying
corn flakes, pasta, bread are "for children"
"real men eat oats"
;D ;D ;D
epic bro science
Bread was good enough for Jeebus, but not for me, and yes, corn flakes and pasta are toy foods.
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Bread was good enough for Jeebus, but not for me, and yes, corn flakes and pasta are toy foods.
Jesus could only pull off one swimmerish front pose. I destroy him from the back harder than Elton John would destroy Liberace. All gluten free fast-acting carbs.
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this is moronic
ego lifting at its finest
ego lifting? lol... dude, you're a clueless clown.
talk about 'ego lifting'? you fucking imbecile... 85% of your posts are 'ego-lifting' related you dimwit.. 'I gotta get big arms for the girls' ect... is that not ego lifting? you fucking moron... with your 41" chest and 16.5" arms.
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Theres an Addams family joke there somewhere but im too tired.
It's Wednesday?
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Jesus could only pull off one swimmerish front pose. I destroy him from the back harder than Elton John would destroy Liberace. All gluten free fast-acting carbs.
Haha, boommmm! 8)
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ego lifting? lol... dude, you're a clueless clown.
talk about 'ego lifting'? you fucking imbecile... 85% of your posts are 'ego-lifting' related you dimwit.. 'I gotta get big arms for the girls' ect... is that not ego lifting? you fucking moron... with your 41" chest and 16.5" arms.
YLLS, HTH
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YLLS, HTH
But, but... Louie Simmons says.... :'(
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But, but... Louie Simmons says.... :'(
louie simmons LLS, HTH
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ego lifting? lol... dude, you're a clueless clown.
talk about 'ego lifting'? you fucking imbecile... 85% of your posts are 'ego-lifting' related you dimwit.. 'I gotta get big arms for the girls' ect... is that not ego lifting? you fucking moron... with your 41" chest and 16.5" arms.
He blows you out the fucking water Mr 6grms sweet spot
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He blows you out the fucking water Mr 6grms sweet spot
sure he does.
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louie simmons LLS, HTH
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chest of peace
Mr 6-inches-of-cock-hits-the-sweet-spot doesn't seem to realize that the ''Power Lifter style'' benching he's read about online and is recommending to sound clever is supposed to minimize chest involvement for shirted benching.
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sure he does.
Yep, we have all seen your pictures.
Palumboism without the muscle.
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chest of peace
Mr 6-inches-of-cock-hits-the-sweet-spot doesn't seem to realize that the ''Power Lifter style'' benching he's read about online and is recommending to sound clever is supposed to minimize chest involvement for shirted benching.
ok, so you're telling me what I realize and what I don't? the question was what would help his bench ASAP, not 'what would help me develop my chest?'... re-read the question, idiot. did you fail reading-comprehension in middle school? too stoned in high school to pay attention?
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Mr 6-inches-of-cock-hits-the-sweet-spot
:D
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arguing with esf is like arguing with mentally challenged person
doesn't seem to realize he is getting destroyed just continues the broken record routine
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chest of peace
Mr 6-inches-of-cock-hits-the-sweet-spot doesn't seem to realize that the ''Power Lifter style'' benching he's read about online and is recommending to sound clever is supposed to minimize chest involvement for shirted benching.
he probably also uses suited squat technique cues for unsuited squats
mental impairments of peace
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He blows you out the fucking water Mr 6grms sweet spot
sure, he has 30lbs on me alright.. not to mention the arms, whopping 16.5"!! I should bow down.
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sure, he has 30lbs on me alright.. not to mention the arms, whopping 16.5"!! I should bow down.
your arms look like shit
why would someone like you wear cut off shirt?
height of delusions
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delts of peace
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delts of peace
similar arms and forearms as well
carot tops long lost brother
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4gms a week at the moment?
wadda mess.
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4gms a week at the moment?
wadda mess.
if you take all that bloat from those small shapeless arms, what will there be left?
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4gms a week at the moment?
wadda mess.
actually about 800 test and 800 deca for the past couple months.
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if you take all that bloat from those small shapeless arms, what will there be left?
The body on his last set of photos.
the guy is on multiple compounds, GH and insulin FFS
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actually about 800 test and 800 deca for the past couple months.
hahahaha.... you say that like its not a lot to look like you do,
GTFO this board
Dismissed.
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You mean to tell me that you don't know who the legendary Freddy Roach is?
Talk about being lost.
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The body on his last set of photos.
the guy is on multiple compounds, GH and insulin FFS
I'm on multiple compounds, gh, and insulin?
lol...keep on lying, you 50yr old sissy.
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I'm on multiple compounds, gh, and insulin?
lol...keep on lying, you 50yr old sissy.
A 50 year old sissy who blows you out of the water on 250mgs a week of test e.
You are a fucking disgrace to drug use.
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A 50 year old sissy who blows you out of the water on 250mgs a week of test e.
You are a fucking disgrace to drug use.
He's on drugs?
Looks natural with 'ok' shoulders in that pic.
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He's on drugs?
Looks natural with 'ok' shoulders in that pic.
looks like he shoots a lot of roids in his delts and eats all you can eart mcdonalds diet
bloated small arms with not a single shred of definition
15" arms when lean
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He's on drugs?
Looks natural with 'ok' shoulders in that pic.
1600mgs a week for the last 2 months, thats what hes admitting to, guaranteed it will be way more than that.
He was injecting 3-4gms of gear in one go last year, he even posted about it.
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A 50 year old sissy who blows you out of the water on 250mgs a week of test e.
You are a fucking disgrace to drug use.
dude, you're a washed up old never-was bber who trolls internet msg boards claiming ' I blow you out of the water' to ppl he'll never meet. lol... fucking pathetic.
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dude, you're a washed up old never-was bber who trolls internet msg boards claiming ' I blow you out of the water' to ppl he'll never meet. lol... fucking pathetic.
losing internet fights is more pathetic still than winning them
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1600mgs a week for the last 2 months, thats what hes admitting to, guaranteed it will be way more than that.
He was injecting 3-4gms of gear in one go last year, he even posted about it.
guaranteed? lol... dude, you're a fucking loser. you think if I was using more, I wouldn't say so? lol..
but that doesn't help your 'cause', does it?
anyting that comes from your mouth (or fingers) reguarding my use is forever gonna be '6g a week' no matter if I'm on 250, 800, 1600 4g or 6g.... you're a pathetic punk bitch, end of story.
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1600mgs a week for the last 2 months, thats what hes admitting to, guaranteed it will be way more than that.
He was injecting 3-4gms of gear in one go last year, he even posted about it.
I don't think his products are the same as the pros are using. He'd be huge.
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does everything it (and hgh) is supposed to.
running 150-200mcg/day now... when I remember to do the shots. lol.. which is 4-5 days a week (in the morning or just before bed, in 1 shot)
thin skin. full muscle bellies. crazy vascularity, esp in the legs.
I love igf1 DES. training back for example, i'd put 100mcg in the lats, 100mcg in the teres, and 100mcg in the traps (100mcg each side), for arms 100mcg in the bicep, 50mcg in the brach, 50mcg in the lateral head , 100mcg in the long head, and 25mcg or so in the top of the forearm, quads i'd just pick one head and put 150mcg in. chest is just 150mcg.
if I could get a better price, i'd double those doses.
I seen my abs every day for a long time.
everything I say/recommend comes from personal experience. if I say the sides/risks from running 2g/wk or 3.5g/wk for a couple years are overblown(by guys who are only relaying what they read on the internet), it's because I did it.
everything I say, I say from experience. things I've experienced with myself first and had clients to after(every client is different, mind you).
I go up and down in dosage. just because I've used 6-7g in the past, doesn't mean I NEED to use 6-7g NOW. in fact I use quite a bit less than that, and I still grow and get great pumps and get lean and hard, ect... now, if I was 260lbs + i'd need to bump it up again.
from my experience, i'd rather have a guy run a gram from the start, and move up to 2g quickly. ASSUMING he wants to look like the dudes they see in the mag's.
some foo-foo guy can get away with 500mg/wk.
CONTROL YOUR SIDES! don't just short-change yourself by taking small doses just because you're afraid of sides.
Take your Aromasin (I HATE Femera... kills sex drive).. (*edited this part.. orig said 'have', not 'HATE')
take your nolva (use enough AAS and the neg impact nolva has is minimal. you don't need a lot. I know of women with tits like watermelons shrink down to oranges with use 10-15mg/day)
take your dutasteride.
if blood pressure is high, take lincinopril (sp? lol) or captopril, and Cialis (although I prefer Levitra) in a small dose ED.
can't sleep? take a halcion (get a script) or benedryl.
bad skin? use Retin-A.
ALLL THIS SHIT CAN BE CONTROLLED!
you can run 2g of test/wk with 150mg anadrol and still be lean, hard, and vascular. (actually, I believe anadrol gives much less water retention than dbol... but anyways).
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I don't think his products are the same as the pros are using. He'd be huge.
“In bodybuilding, genetics is key. You can give a Greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a Rottweiler, but the Rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound.”
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“In bodybuilding, genetics is key. You can give a Greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a Rottweiler, but the Rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound.”
Said a guy who used oil to compensate for his shit placings and terrible genetics, back to the topic.
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Said a guy who used oil to compensate for his shit placings and terrible genetics, back to the topic.
it's a quote from "the art of war"
in thongs
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it's a quote from "the art of war"
in thongs
It's also a quote nasser used to peddle around his bitter bb.com interviews to sound intelligent, which he wasnt
so I mean, let's go back to being real for a second
esf's gear is bunk
because on those doses, he wouldn't be able to fit through a university hallway doorframe
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It's also a quote nasser used to peddle around his bitter bb.com interviews to sound intelligent, which he wasnt
so I mean, let's go back to being real for a second
esf's gear is bunk
because on those doses, he wouldn't be able to fit through university hallway doorframe
you have got to be shitting me
ever heard of diminishing returns?
this principle dictates that the worse your genetics are the less you get out of increasing dosages
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It's also a quote nasser used to peddle around his bitter bb.com interviews to sound intelligent, which he wasnt
so I mean, let's go back to being real for a second
esf's gear is bunk
because on those doses, he wouldn't be able to fit through university hallway doorframe
It is not bunk, more is not better, at least not for someone who does not train enough and does not have genetics to maintain huge muscle mass and low bodyfat.
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“In bodybuilding, genetics is key. You can give a Greyhound exactly the same amount of steroids as you give a Rottweiler, but the Rottweiler will always be bigger and more massive than the greyhound.”
But Leopold, good racing greyhound can make hips of pesos & getting 'juiced', money easily wins ;)
Then if was top male, fucks bitches for cash :D
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you have got to be shitting me
ever heard of diminishing returns?
this principle dictates that the worse your genetics are the less you get out of increasing dosages
Diminishing returns implies you had returns in the first place, and they diminished
think you skipped that part
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It is not bunk, more is not better, at least not for someone who does not train enough and does not have genetics to maintain huge muscle mass and low bodyfat.
Bullshit. I've seen 150lb hardgainer twinks turn into 210lb monsters on a few orals and a few ius of GH. He can use 5000g a day and it won't make a difference if it isn't real gear.
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Diminishing returns implies you had returns in the first place, and they diminished
think you skipped that part
lmao
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Bullshit. I've seen 150lb hardgainer twinks turn into 210lb monsters on a few orals and a few ius of GH. He can use 5000g a day and it won't make a difference if it isn't real gear.
lmao.
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Bullshit. I've seen 150lb hardgainer twinks turn into 210lb monsters on a few orals and a few ius of GH. He can use 5000g a day and it won't make a difference if it isn't real gear.
natural size and steroid response are often inversely proportional
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lmao.
Why did you put olive oil in his vials and put new protective seals on the caps? To make them look new
you've been trolling him for years with this stuff you're selling him
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(http://s27.postimg.org/otqgsrxz7/oil_filled_deltsof_peace.jpg)
4gms a week at the moment?
wadda mess.
those delts looks retarded. and not retarded in a good way. looks seo'ed
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Big delts on ESFitness
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Kamali beastly forearms.
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Kamali beastly forearms.
hey genius, given your expert bbing knowledge, please advise me on how change where the muscles in my forearms/wrists attach.... I'm all ears.
feel free to compare my forearm's to my wrist, while you're at it.
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you're gonna regret these posts.
(http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/293952iF818659453F4A25C/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
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Well it only took a year, but ESFitness finally posted a picture.
Solid build, but the delt-injections are a bit much
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Wider than Heath
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Not as thick as STed but still a Ted ;D
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Not as thick as STed but still a Ted ;D
That wasnt me. It was ESFitness. I'm smaller, balder and a few shades darker.
;D
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Wider than Heath
This is a big dude, wide as fuck too.
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This is a big dude, wide as fuck too.
Yep, hes awesome.
I hope he hasnt stretched that photo, that pad looks a little odd.
(http://s23.postimg.org/opcjazitn/esfstretch.jpg)
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Yep, hes awesome.
I hope he hasnt stretched that photo, that pad looks a little odd.
(http://s23.postimg.org/opcjazitn/esfstretch.jpg)
the pad looks odd because that's where ppl wrap their arms around it to twist the machine.
pic went from my phone to my laptop saved as a bitmap and it came up.. tried posting a few others but I get a msg saying file size too large and I have no idea how to resize the pics.
nice try.
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315 for 2 today......first one deep second shallow but still good
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315 for 2 today......first one deep second shallow but still good
nice. I know you've been after that for a while
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Lol @ the guys in this thread benching more than they squat. ;D
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Lol @ the guys in this thread benching more than they squat. ;D
Weaklings.
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Weaklings.
How many of these guys could do a legit, below parallel squat with 315?
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How many of these guys could do a legit, below parallel squat with 315?
hai
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How many of these guys could do a legit, below parallel squat with 315?
easy money.
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This is a big dude, wide as fuck too.
the guy is wider than any pic I've seen of ukjeff.
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ESF doesn't it bother you being on that much deca? I know some pretty big guys with good physiques, who look really good after they finish a show...I see them 2 months later once they start their offseason with a heft dose of nandrolone and they look way worse. The guys I know who do look good in the offseason don't really use deca. The extra few lbs deca might give you over EQ or something, the shutdown that comes with it, just doesn't seem worth it to me
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ESF doesn't it bother you being on that much deca? I know some pretty big guys with good physiques, who look really good after they finish a show...I see them 2 months later once they start their offseason with a heft dose of nandrolone and they look way worse. The guys I know who do look good in the offseason don't really use deca. The extra few lbs deca might give you over EQ or something, the shutdown that comes with it, just doesn't seem worth it to me
not really, since I know it's temporary. the body can always change. if I don't 'need' to be 'ripped', I don't see a reason in staying ripped year 'round. I spent most of a year at sub-5% and it sucked. if I don't have something coming up where I need to be lean/hard/dry, I'd prefer to be a bit puffy. I'm still lean, as I still have abs and serratus and whatnot, but holding water 'feels better'.. joints feel beter and everything feels 'tighter'. the reason I retired from bodybuilding in '04/05 was because I was burned out. I like being able to eat whatever I want, whenever I want. believe me, if I could get 'fat', I would, I really don't care. getting fat doesn't come easy to me no matter what I eat.
the puffy-deca waterweight falls off pretty quickly, so I can be a puffy 235 one day and skip a deca shot that week and next week I'm 230 and I look much bigger because the separation comes out.. having that in the back of my mind makes me not 'freak out' when I'm holding water. I can do 'before and after' pics that are 2 days apart that look like 2 months apart.
I WAS running 6g a week.. 4g test enan and 2g deca with dbol preworkout, but my body would ache 24-7 from the injections (400mg/ml gear all around), so that quickly got cut in half, and then down to just a couple syringes of a test and deca mix just because I was lazy... I'd even go 10days or more between shots recently because of my schedule.
i'll go another couple weeks at this dose and put on another 10lbs or so, then switch up to a 1500 cyp and 500 tren e for a while.
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not really, since I know it's temporary. the body can always change. if I don't 'need' to be 'ripped', I don't see a reason in staying ripped year 'round. I spent most of a year at sub-5% and it sucked. if I don't have something coming up where I need to be lean/hard/dry, I'd prefer to be a bit puffy. I'm still lean, as I still have abs and serratus and whatnot, but holding water 'feels better'.. joints feel beter and everything feels 'tighter'. the reason I retired from bodybuilding in '04/05 was because I was burned out. I like being able to eat whatever I want, whenever I want. believe me, if I could get 'fat', I would, I really don't care. getting fat doesn't come easy to me no matter what I eat.
the puffy-deca waterweight falls off pretty quickly, so I can be a puffy 235 one day and skip a deca shot that week and next week I'm 230 and I look much bigger because the separation comes out.. having that in the back of my mind makes me not 'freak out' when I'm holding water. I can do 'before and after' pics that are 2 days apart that look like 2 months apart.
I WAS running 6g a week.. 4g test enan and 2g deca with dbol preworkout, but my body would ache 24-7 from the injections (400mg/ml gear all around), so that quickly got cut in half, and then down to just a couple syringes of a test and deca mix just because I was lazy... I'd even go 10days or more between shots recently because of my schedule.
i'll go another couple weeks at this dose and put on another 10lbs or so, then switch up to a 1500 cyp and 500 tren e for a while.
And I bet you didnt take one photograph the entire time. ::)
Another 10lbs of water, great gains man.
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And I bet you didnt take one photograph the entire time. ::)
Another 10lbs of water, great gains man.
dude... you're entire self-worth is based on telling people on msg boards "I look wayyy better than you".
you wake up in the morning and I bet you 2 bottles of tren that while brushing your teeth you flex your bicep and tell yourself "yea... I look better than that ESFitness.. that's right, i'm the best bodybuilder on Getbig"... I also bet you a bottle of clen that you have pictures of yourself on your phone as screensavers... hoping somebody will notice and comment on them.
great life you have.
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dude... you're entire self-worth is based on telling people on msg boards "I look wayyy better than you".
you wake up in the morning and I bet you 2 bottles of tren that while brushing your teeth you flex your bicep and tell yourself "yea... I look better than that ESFitness.. that's right, i'm the best bodybuilder on Getbig"... I also bet you a bottle of clen that you have pictures of yourself on your phone as screensavers... hoping somebody will notice and comment on them.
great life you have.
I was going to let it go with a glib comment but seeing as you have had a meltdown I will just add a bit more.
You have NEVER been sub 5%, you will be lucky if you have ever hit 8 or 9, you really have got to be trolling this forum with your posts now, talking about taking six grams and aching from all the shots, telling us what Paul Dillet was taking, newsflash mate, only Paul Dillet knew what Paul Dillet was taking.
And when I flex in the bathroom mirror, its never you I compare myself to, I need motivation, and you sir are certainly no motivation for me.
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My gym has this one bench that's so narrow you can't hardly balance on it.
What's up with that?
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I was going to let it go with a glib comment but seeing as you have had a meltdown I will just add a bit more.
You have NEVER been sub 5%, you will be lucky if you have ever hit 8 or 9, you really have got to be trolling this forum with your posts now, talking about taking six grams and aching from all the shots, telling us what Paul Dillet was taking, newsflash mate, only Paul Dillet knew what Paul Dillet was taking.
And when I flex in the bathroom mirror, its never you I compare myself to, I need motivation, and you sir are certainly no motivation for me.
I've never been 5%? lol.. keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel beter.
you're absolutely completely fucking pathetic. if you weren't such a coward, you'd hang yourself.
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I've never been 5%? lol.. keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel beter.
you're absolutely completely fucking pathetic. if you weren't such a coward, you'd hang yourself.
Talks cheap.
I was sub 1% for 2 years straight. ::)
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Talks cheap.
I was sub 1% for 2 years straight. ::)
talk is cheap? lol
dude... get it through your head, you fucking dimwit... i don't give two shits about what you think of me and i don't give two shits about how you look now or have ever looked in your entire lifetime. i realize that's a hard concept for you to grasp, seeing as how you are obsessed with how everybody else looks, you assume everybody else is just like you... we're not.
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This is why you can't pay ESF a compliment.
He posts a pic, fully clothed....someone says he looks OK and he's back to writing paragraphs about his amazing physique like he's Flex Wheeler.
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talk is cheap? lol
dude... get it through your head, you fucking dimwit... i don't give two shits about what you think of me and i don't give two shits about how you look now or have ever looked in your entire lifetime. i realize that's a hard concept for you to grasp, seeing as how you are obsessed with how everybody else looks, you assume everybody else is just like you... we're not.
you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
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This is why you can't pay ESF a compliment.
He posts a pic, fully clothed....someone says he looks OK and he's back to writing paragraphs about his amazing physique like he's Flex Wheeler.
feel free to quote where i talk about myself as if I'm flex wheeler (or some other great bber whatever)
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you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid.
you just reposted what i said to Icelord in response to a remark he made about business law.. without the quotes.
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you just reposted what i said to Icelord in response to a remark he made about business law.. without the quotes.
???
Epic quote, just looking for a funny reaction. You didn't fall for it. :-\
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talk is cheap? lol
dude... get it through your head, you fucking dimwit... i don't give two shits about what you think of me and i don't give two shits about how you look now or have ever looked in your entire lifetime.
Esf, you might wish to reconsider once you see:
<-- "DAT ASS"
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feel free to quote where i talk about myself as if I'm flex wheeler (or some other great bber whatever)
You're not stupid dude....you know what I mean.
You haven't posted any pics that warrant you thinking you're one of the better built guys around here...and the air of authority that comes with that.
I know, it's stupid...this whole board is stupid...but there is a method to the madness.
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You're not stupid dude....you know what I mean.
You haven't posted any pics that warrant you thinking you're one of the better built guys around here...and the air of authority that comes with that.
I know, it's stupid...this whole board is stupid...but there is a method to the madness.
I've only posted 3 pics. back pic when some fella said i was a twink and ab pic when gal said i was obese, and the pic in this thread. and the 'air of authority' isn't from thinking I'm one of the better built guys, but when it comes to experience with the stuff we use, i have a bit more experience in all areas than a good number.
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I've only posted 3 pics. back pic when some fella said i was a twink and ab pic when gal said i was obese, and the pic in this thread. and the 'air of authority' isn't from thinking I'm one of the better built guys, but when it comes to experience with the stuff we use, i have a bit more experience in all areas than a good number.
You're always trying to defend yourself and your pictures, let people have their own opinion on you.
For me, I think you look about average, nothing special..as I also do myself (see pic) but the difference is I don't come on here looking down on people...nor do I take anywhere near half a gram of gear a week, as a matter of fact I am on 200mg masteron only right now, and TBH the diffrerence between me and you and your sweet spot of 6g is not light and day, bearing in mind am a lot taller than you at 6ft3...it puts it into perspective and I see why people keep on ripping into you and I hope one day you will too.
(http://s28.postimg.org/wyt4vuwkd/IMAG1599_2_2.jpg)
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How many of these guys could do a legit, below parallel squat with 315?
10 fucking percent%.
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You're always trying to defend yourself and your pictures, let people have their own opinion on you.
For me, I think you look about average, nothing special..as I also do myself (see pic) but the difference is I don't come on here looking down on people...nor do I take anywhere near half a gram of gear a week, as a matter of fact I am on 200mg masteron only right now, and TBH the diffrerence between me and you and your sweet spot of 6g is not light and day, bearing in mind am a lot taller than you at 6ft3...it puts it into perspective and I see why people keep on ripping into you and I hope one day you will too.
(http://s28.postimg.org/wyt4vuwkd/IMAG1599_2_2.jpg)
there's an opinion, and there's basing an opinion on things I've said and taken out of context.
posting pics of when I was just out of the hospital with thyrotoxic periodic paralysis and down 40+lbs, and posting pics when I was a few days out of prison, and posting pics of when I was on hrt and nothing else, and then saying 'this is what you look like right now, on 6g/wk' and the whole '6g sweet spot' shit is pathetic.
the '6g sweet spot' shit was referring to the total mg amt of what the guys use who compete, have competed either as npc or ifbb.
some of you people behave like little school girls on here... utterly fucking childish for a grown man.
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there's an opinion, and there's basing an opinion on things I've said and taken out of context.
posting pics of when I was just out of the hospital with thyrotoxic periodic paralysis and down 40+lbs, and posting pics when I was a few days out of prison, and posting pics of when I was on hrt and nothing else, and then saying 'this is what you look like right now, on 6g/wk' and the whole '6g sweet spot' shit is pathetic.
the '6g sweet spot' shit was referring to the total mg amt of what the guys use who compete, have competed either as npc or ifbb.
some of you people behave like little school girls on here... utterly fucking childish for a grown man.
This is the exact thing I meant, but its all gone over your head ::)
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Just got off the phone with Nasser
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This is the exact thing I meant, but its all gone over your head ::)
I dont think he will ever get it, the guy is happy to flood the internet with photos of himself at his worst, but when asked to post a picture of him at his best he blows a gasket.
Very strange behaviour indeed.
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I dont think he will ever get it, the guy is happy to flood the internet with photos of himself at his worst, but when asked to post a picture of him at his best he blows a gasket.
Very strange behaviour indeed.
True, every single picture we've seen so far is off him one week post comatosed paralysis...he fiercely makes this point over and over again and says he is 245lbs ripped normally, then gets annoyed at us for accusing him off bluffing, afeter all we're not to blame, the internet is full of liars i.e. Anabolichalo's imaginary 70k savings accounts one week, yet he can't fix a kitchen door or feed himself half the time...or Thick Nick claiming to have a normal sized penis and blaming the servere deterioration of size on dehydration and weather.
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True, every single picture we've seen so far is off him one week post comatosed paralysis...he fiercely makes this point over and over again and says he is 245lbs ripped normally, then gets annoyed at us for accusing him off bluffing, afeter all we're not to blame, the internet is full of liars i.e. Anabolichalo's imaginary 70k savings accounts one week, yet he can't fix a kitchen door or feed himself half the time...or Thick Nick claiming to have a normal sized penis and blaming the servere deterioration of size on dehydration and weather.
Looking at his physique now him at sub 5% he would be lucky to weigh 175
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Just got off the phone with Nasser
he still taking a bath?
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I saw a guy last night do a single with 170kg BUT rested on his chest for a 5 count then powered it up. How many of you could do that with 120kg never mind 170? I fucking couldn't!
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I saw a guy last night do a single with 170kg BUT rested on his chest for a 5 count then powered it up. How many of you could do that with 120kg never mind 170? I fucking couldn't!
Would bury me like a child.
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nice. I know you've been after that for a while
shoulder felt strong....but I pussed out on the second rep. panic attack when I felt a pinch going down.
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shoulder felt strong....but I pussed out on the second rep. panic attack when I felt a pinch going down.
More benching is not gonna make your bench go up. Im not some expert powerlifter or anything but I know how to increase my bench press. And IME anything makes my bench go up except benching itself.
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You want to get good at benching - then benching more with variations will def help most people - by benching more I mean more frequency but with less intensity, alternate the lifts that replicate a bench - inclines, declines, board presses, benching with bands, cambered bar benches, floor presses and the like- alternate reps, rest periods, tempo etc.. your bench will grow over TIME
Hammer triceps also !
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Everyone should get good at benching, it really enhances all areas of your life and makes you a multi-faceted well rounded human being.
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Everyone should get good at benching, it really enhances all areas of your life and makes you a multi-faceted well rounded human being.
and makes you a better fighter, the more you bench the tougher you are.
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More benching is not gonna make your bench go up. Im not some expert powerlifter or anything but I know how to increase my bench press. And IME anything makes my bench go up except benching itself.
I powerlifted for about 2 years when in my early twenty's I bench 2x week first day high weight low rep 135x10 185x3 225x3 275x3 315x3 355x2 and back then up up up the weight x1 rep.
Second day lower weigh high rep 135x10 185x12 225x10 275x8 and down again....plus mix in incline dumbbell and decline low weight very high rep 135x25-30 over and over etc....sometimes incline smith machine with high weight. Finish with cable work pull overs....
Now letting shoulder dictate rep and weight another year I should be 100%.....I hope :-\
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and makes you a better fighter, the more you bench the tougher you are.
Correct, strength in the pecs and shoulders also transfers to the jaw muscles allowing you to take harder shots without getting knocked out.
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Everyone should get good at benching, it really enhances all areas of your life and makes you a multi-faceted well rounded human being.
My penis grew thicker with benching as well as my understanding of the dadaist movement
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Everyone should get good at benching, it really enhances all areas of your life and makes you a multi-faceted well rounded human being.
and winning a bodybuilding show does? more people follow worlds strongest man than bodybuilding
strength=respect.
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and winning a bodybuilding show does? more people follow worlds strongest man than bodybuilding
strength=respect.
Just re-read my post, nope, I never mentioned a bodybuilding contest at all.
Would would enhance your life is getting a worthwhile regular job and having more than one shower a week.
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for the most part, benching for strength (powerlifting style) doesn't equate to a larger, better chest in bbing terms.
however, it does allow you to handle and control heavier weight when you go back to a typical "bodybuilding style" bench press with focus on the chest as the prime mover.. with elbows out to the sides and the bar touching higher near the nipple (or above it)
whole reason I started powerlifting was because of a shoulder injury which prevented me from doing ANY pressing for 7-8 months. even pressing a 10lb db felt like an ice-pick being stabbed in my shoulder, so after a couple months I started working with actual powerlifters on squat and deads while my shoulder healed, and finally bench. when I was able to bench again, the simple adjustments in technique had me pushing 30lbs heavier than I'd ever pushed before (after not pressing at all for 8months), and I've carried over that technique since 'returning' to bodybuilding and my shoulders have never been an issue since.
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for the most part, benching for strength (powerlifting style) doesn't equate to a larger, better chest in bbing terms.
however, it does allow you to handle and control heavier weight when you go back to a typical "bodybuilding style" bench press with focus on the chest as the prime mover.. with elbows out to the sides and the bar touching higher near the nipple (or above it)
whole reason I started powerlifting was because of a shoulder injury which prevented me from doing ANY pressing for 7-8 months. even pressing a 10lb db felt like an ice-pick being stabbed in my shoulder, so after a couple months I started working with actual powerlifters on squat and deads while my shoulder healed, and finally bench. when I was able to bench again, the simple adjustments in technique had me pushing 30lbs heavier than I'd ever pushed before (after not pressing at all for 8months), and I've carried over that technique since 'returning' to bodybuilding and my shoulders have never been an issue since.
You certainly live a full life.
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ESF
do you have some kind of personality disorder?
I'm being serious. are you medicated?
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I saw a guy last night do a single with 170kg BUT rested on his chest for a 5 count then powered it up. How many of you could do that with 120kg never mind 170? I fucking couldn't!
With 120kg, even 150kg when I go heavy no problem. 170kg no way anymore :-[
Starting to wonder if I'm on the other side of the bell curve.
I've seen 250kg or so (said earlier in thread) done raw and natural by a guy in a suit who just took off the jacket. Was left speechless. Guy had a mullet too. He was from Belgium wonder if he knows Leopold.
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Everyone should get good at benching, it really enhances all areas of your life and makes you a multi-faceted well rounded human being.
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But in reality, is there any harm in indulging the primordial thrill one gets from launching a heavy fucking weight off your chest?
Obviously bench pressing is way way down on the list of life skills one should aspire to obtain. But if you've already ticked those boxes then it sure is *fun*.
In other news I wrecked my pb by pause repping (2-3 second pauses) 145kg for 6 reps. I believe that puts me over 180kg for a 1 rep max but i'm not going to test it just yet.
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Everyone should get good at benching, it really enhances all areas of your life and makes you a multi-faceted well rounded human being.
In the jungle the Lion roars in the gym the bench is the pride of most lifters since the 60's.
If you can not bench, you are not a gym warrior, simple as that. Only exception is if you are injured or if benching cause inappropriate soreness.
Most common question in the world of the gym, ''what do you bench'' it counts bro, stop playing dumb. ;)
if this is too childish for you then get the fuck off a hardcore bodybuilding forum, lol :-\
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In the jungle the Lion roars in the gym the bench is the pride of most lifters since the 60's.
If you can not bench, you are not a gym warrior, simple as that. Only exception is if you are injured or if benching cause inappropriate soreness.
Most common question in the world of the gym, ''what do you bench'' it counts bro, stop playing dumb. ;)
if this is too childish for you then get the fuck off a hardcore bodybuilding forum, lol :-\
I would sooner go in and train with my power bands and put 95% of the guys in my gym to shame than be a "Bench Warrior"
I take pride in telling people I dont bench and watch their quizzical expressions as my shoulders and arms bulge through my t-shirt as I take a sip from my water. ;D
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I would sooner go in and train with my power bands and put 95% of the guys in my gym to shame than be a "Bench Warrior"
I take pride in telling people I dont bench and watch their quizzical expressions as my shoulders and arms bulge through my t-shirt as I take a sip from my water. ;D
I've gone ahead and highlighted aspects pertaining to yourself.... you're welcome.
Grandiose delusions
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Delusions of grandeur" redirects here. For other uses, see Delusions of grandeur (disambiguation).
Not to be confused with Grandiosity.
Grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur is principally a subtype of delusional disorder that occurs in patients suffering from a wide range of mental illnesses, including two-thirds of patients in manic state of bipolar disorder, half of those with schizophrenia and a substantial portion of those with substance abuse disorders.[1][2] GDs are characterized by fantastical beliefs that one is famous, omnipotent, wealthy, or otherwise very powerful. The delusions are generally fantastic and typically have a supernatural, science-fictional, or religious theme. There is a relative lack of research into GD, in comparison to persecutory delusions and auditory hallucinations. About 10% of healthy people experience grandiose thoughts but do not meet full criteria for a diagnosis of GD.
Prevalence[edit]
Research suggests that the severity of the delusions of grandeur is directly related to a higher self-esteem in individuals and inversely related to any individual’s severity of depression and negative self-evaluations.[3] Lucas et al. found that there is no significant gender difference in the establishment of grandiose delusion. However, there is a claim that ‘the particular component of Grandiose delusion’ may be variable across both genders.[2] Also, it had been noted that the presence of GDs in people with at least grammar or high school education was greater than lesser educated persons. Similarly, the presence of grandiose delusions in individuals who are the eldest is greater than in individuals who are the youngest of their siblings.[4]
Symptoms[edit]
According to the DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria for delusional disorder, grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated belief of:
self-worth
power[5]
knowledge
identity
exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.[6]
For example, a patient who has fictitious beliefs about his or her power or authority may believe himself or herself to be a ruling monarch who deserves to be treated like royalty.[7] There are substantial differences in the degree of grandiosity linked with grandiose delusions in different patients. Some patients believe they are God, the Queen of England, a president's son, a famous rock star, and so on. Others are not as expansive and think they are skilled sports-persons or great inventors.[8]
Expansive delusions[edit]
Expansive delusions may be maintained by auditory hallucinations, which advise the patient that they are significant, or confabulations, when, for example, the patient gives a thorough description of their coronation or marriage to the king. Grandiose and expansive delusions may also be part of fantastic hallucinosis in which all forms of hallucinations occur.[8]
Positive functions[edit]
Grandiose delusions frequently serve a very positive function for the person of sustaining or increasing their self-esteem. As a result, it is important to consider what the consequences of removing the grandiose delusion are on self-esteem when trying to modify the grandiose delusion in therapy.[5] In many instances of grandiosity it is suitable to go for a fractional rather than a total modification, which permits those elements of the delusion that are central for self-esteem to be preserved. For example, a man who believes he is a senior secret service agent gains a great sense of self-esteem and purpose from this belief, thus until this sense of self-esteem can be provided from elsewhere, it is best not to attempt modification.[5]
Accounts of delusion[edit]
There are two alternative accounts for getting grandiose delusions:[9]
Delusion-as-defense account: defense of the mind against lower self-esteem and depression
Emotion-consistent account: result of exaggerated emotions.
Epidemiology[edit]
In researching over 1000 individuals of vast range of backgrounds, Stompe and colleagues (2006) found that grandiosity remains as the second most common delusion after persecutory delusions.[2] A variation in the occurrence of grandiosity delusions in schizophrenic patients across cultures has also been observed.[10][11] In research done by Appelbaum et al. it has been found that GDs appeared more commonly in patients with bipolar disorder (59%) than in patients with schizophrenia (49%), followed by presence in substance misuse disorder patients (30%) and depressed patients (21%).[2]
A relationship has been claimed between the age of onset of bipolar disorder and the occurrence of GDs. According to Carlson et al. (2000), grandiose delusions appeared in 74% of the patients who were 21 or lower at the time of the onset, while they occurred only in 40% of individuals 30 years or older at the time of the onset.[2]
Diagnosis[edit]
Patients with a wide range of mental disorders which disturb brain function experience different kinds of delusions, including grandiose delusions.[12] Grandiose delusions usually occur in patients with syndromes associated with secondary mania, such as Huntington's disease,[13] Parkinson's disease,[14] and Wilson's disease.[15] Secondary mania has also been caused by substances such as levodopa and isoniazid which modify the monoaminergic neurotransmitter function.[16] Vitamin B12 deficiency,[17] uremia,[18] hyperthyroidism[19] as well as the carcinoid syndrome[20] have been found to cause secondary mania, and thus grandiose delusions.
In diagnosing delusions, the MacArthur-Maudsley Assessment of Delusions Schedule is used to assess the patient.[21]
Comorbidity[edit]
Schizophrenia[edit]
Main article: Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia is a mental disorder distinguished by a loss of contact with reality and the occurrence of psychotic behaviors, including hallucinations and delusions (unreal beliefs which endure even when there is contrary evidence).[22] Delusions may include the false and constant idea that the person is being followed or poisoned, or that the person’s thoughts are being broadcast for others to listen to. Delusions in schizophrenia often develop as a response to the individual attempting to explain their hallucinations.[22] Patients who experience recurrent auditory hallucinations can develop the delusion that other people are scheming against them and are dishonest when they say they do not hear the voices that the delusioned person believes that he or she hears.[22]
Specifically, grandiose delusions are frequently found predominantly in paranoid schizophrenia, in which a person has an extremely exaggerated sense of his or her significance, personality, knowledge, or authority. For example, the person may possibly declare to own IBM and kindly offer to write a hospital staff member a check for $5 million if they would only help them escape from the hospital.[23] Other common grandiose delusions in schizophrenia include religious delusions such as the belief that one is Jesus Christ.[24] A 2012 paper suggested that psychiatric conditions associated with psychotic spectrum symptoms, that may include grandiose delusions, may be possible explanations for revelatory driven experiences and activities such as those of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and Saint Paul.[25]
Bipolar disorder[edit]
Main article: Bipolar disorder
Bipolar disorder is severe affective dysregulation, or mood states that sway from exceedingly low (depression) to exceptionally high (mania).[26] Bipolar patients with grandiose delusions are essentially high on themselves. If they convey any feelings of aggravation at all, these at most characterize secondary anxiety that others will be jealous of them and hold them back from getting what they are entitled to, or seize what they already have.[27]
Bipolar patients experience delusion during the worse part of their illness. Typically, when experiencing or displaying a stage of heightened excitability, joy, rage, senselessness, and correlated phenomena they might convey thoughts or beliefs that are grandiose in nature. Some of these grandiose beliefs frequently involve thoughts that the patient is very rich or famous or has super human abilities, etc.[28] In the most severe form, known as psychotic mania, the bipolar patient may hear voices and have grandiose delusions such as "I am the King of England".[29]
Anatomical aspects[edit]
Grandiose delusions are frequently and almost certainly related to lesions of the frontal lobe. Temporal lobe lesions have been mainly reported in patients with delusions of persecution and of remorse, while frontal and frontotemporal involvement have been described in patients with grandiose delusions, Cotard’s syndrome, and delusional misidentification syndrome.[30]
Treatment[edit]
Patients suffering from schizophrenia, grandiose and religious delusions are found to be the least susceptible to cognitive behavioral interventions.[21] Cognitive behavioral intervention is a form of psychological therapy, initially used for depression,[31] but currently used for a variety of different mental disorders, in hope of providing relief from distress and disability.[32] During therapy, grandiose delusions were linked to patients' underlying beliefs by using inference chaining.[31][33] Some examples of interventions performed to improve the patient's state were focus on specific themes, clarification of neologisms, and thought linkage.[33] During thought linkage, the patient is asked repeatedly by the therapist to explain his/her jumps in thought from one subject, to a completely different one.[33]
Patients suffering from mental disorders that experience grandiose delusions have been found to have a lower risk of having suicidal thoughts and attempts.[34]
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I've gone ahead and highlighted aspects pertaining to yourself.... you're welcome.
Grandiose delusions
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Delusions of grandeur" redirects here. For other uses, see Delusions of grandeur (disambiguation).
Not to be confused with Grandiosity.
Grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur is principally a subtype of delusional disorder that occurs in patients suffering from a wide range of mental illnesses, including two-thirds of patients in manic state of bipolar disorder, half of those with schizophrenia and a substantial portion of those with substance abuse disorders.[1][2] GDs are characterized by fantastical beliefs that one is famous, omnipotent, wealthy, or otherwise very powerful. The delusions are generally fantastic and typically have a supernatural, science-fictional, or religious theme. There is a relative lack of research into GD, in comparison to persecutory delusions and auditory hallucinations. About 10% of healthy people experience grandiose thoughts but do not meet full criteria for a diagnosis of GD.
Prevalence[edit]
Research suggests that the severity of the delusions of grandeur is directly related to a higher self-esteem in individuals and inversely related to any individual’s severity of depression and negative self-evaluations.[3] Lucas et al. found that there is no significant gender difference in the establishment of grandiose delusion. However, there is a claim that ‘the particular component of Grandiose delusion’ may be variable across both genders.[2] Also, it had been noted that the presence of GDs in people with at least grammar or high school education was greater than lesser educated persons. Similarly, the presence of grandiose delusions in individuals who are the eldest is greater than in individuals who are the youngest of their siblings.[4]
Symptoms[edit]
According to the DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria for delusional disorder, grandiose-type symptoms include grossly exaggerated belief of:
self-worth
power[5]
knowledge
identity
exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person.[6]
For example, a patient who has fictitious beliefs about his or her power or authority may believe himself or herself to be a ruling monarch who deserves to be treated like royalty.[7] There are substantial differences in the degree of grandiosity linked with grandiose delusions in different patients. Some patients believe they are God, the Queen of England, a president's son, a famous rock star, and so on. Others are not as expansive and think they are skilled sports-persons or great inventors.[8]
Expansive delusions[edit]
Expansive delusions may be maintained by auditory hallucinations, which advise the patient that they are significant, or confabulations, when, for example, the patient gives a thorough description of their coronation or marriage to the king. Grandiose and expansive delusions may also be part of fantastic hallucinosis in which all forms of hallucinations occur.[8]
Positive functions[edit]
Grandiose delusions frequently serve a very positive function for the person of sustaining or increasing their self-esteem. As a result, it is important to consider what the consequences of removing the grandiose delusion are on self-esteem when trying to modify the grandiose delusion in therapy.[5] In many instances of grandiosity it is suitable to go for a fractional rather than a total modification, which permits those elements of the delusion that are central for self-esteem to be preserved. For example, a man who believes he is a senior secret service agent gains a great sense of self-esteem and purpose from this belief, thus until this sense of self-esteem can be provided from elsewhere, it is best not to attempt modification.[5]
Accounts of delusion[edit]
There are two alternative accounts for getting grandiose delusions:[9]
Delusion-as-defense account: defense of the mind against lower self-esteem and depression
Emotion-consistent account: result of exaggerated emotions.
Epidemiology[edit]
In researching over 1000 individuals of vast range of backgrounds, Stompe and colleagues (2006) found that grandiosity remains as the second most common delusion after persecutory delusions.[2] A variation in the occurrence of grandiosity delusions in schizophrenic patients across cultures has also been observed.[10][11] In research done by Appelbaum et al. it has been found that GDs appeared more commonly in patients with bipolar disorder (59%) than in patients with schizophrenia (49%), followed by presence in substance misuse disorder patients (30%) and depressed patients (21%).[2]
A relationship has been claimed between the age of onset of bipolar disorder and the occurrence of GDs. According to Carlson et al. (2000), grandiose delusions appeared in 74% of the patients who were 21 or lower at the time of the onset, while they occurred only in 40% of individuals 30 years or older at the time of the onset.[2]
Diagnosis[edit]
Patients with a wide range of mental disorders which disturb brain function experience different kinds of delusions, including grandiose delusions.[12] Grandiose delusions usually occur in patients with syndromes associated with secondary mania, such as Huntington's disease,[13] Parkinson's disease,[14] and Wilson's disease.[15] Secondary mania has also been caused by substances such as levodopa and isoniazid which modify the monoaminergic neurotransmitter function.[16] Vitamin B12 deficiency,[17] uremia,[18] hyperthyroidism[19] as well as the carcinoid syndrome[20] have been found to cause secondary mania, and thus grandiose delusions.
In diagnosing delusions, the MacArthur-Maudsley Assessment of Delusions Schedule is used to assess the patient.[21]
Comorbidity[edit]
Schizophrenia[edit]
Main article: Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia is a mental disorder distinguished by a loss of contact with reality and the occurrence of psychotic behaviors, including hallucinations and delusions (unreal beliefs which endure even when there is contrary evidence).[22] Delusions may include the false and constant idea that the person is being followed or poisoned, or that the person’s thoughts are being broadcast for others to listen to. Delusions in schizophrenia often develop as a response to the individual attempting to explain their hallucinations.[22] Patients who experience recurrent auditory hallucinations can develop the delusion that other people are scheming against them and are dishonest when they say they do not hear the voices that the delusioned person believes that he or she hears.[22]
Specifically, grandiose delusions are frequently found predominantly in paranoid schizophrenia, in which a person has an extremely exaggerated sense of his or her significance, personality, knowledge, or authority. For example, the person may possibly declare to own IBM and kindly offer to write a hospital staff member a check for $5 million if they would only help them escape from the hospital.[23] Other common grandiose delusions in schizophrenia include religious delusions such as the belief that one is Jesus Christ.[24] A 2012 paper suggested that psychiatric conditions associated with psychotic spectrum symptoms, that may include grandiose delusions, may be possible explanations for revelatory driven experiences and activities such as those of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and Saint Paul.[25]
Bipolar disorder[edit]
Main article: Bipolar disorder
Bipolar disorder is severe affective dysregulation, or mood states that sway from exceedingly low (depression) to exceptionally high (mania).[26] Bipolar patients with grandiose delusions are essentially high on themselves. If they convey any feelings of aggravation at all, these at most characterize secondary anxiety that others will be jealous of them and hold them back from getting what they are entitled to, or seize what they already have.[27]
Bipolar patients experience delusion during the worse part of their illness. Typically, when experiencing or displaying a stage of heightened excitability, joy, rage, senselessness, and correlated phenomena they might convey thoughts or beliefs that are grandiose in nature. Some of these grandiose beliefs frequently involve thoughts that the patient is very rich or famous or has super human abilities, etc.[28] In the most severe form, known as psychotic mania, the bipolar patient may hear voices and have grandiose delusions such as "I am the King of England".[29]
Anatomical aspects[edit]
Grandiose delusions are frequently and almost certainly related to lesions of the frontal lobe. Temporal lobe lesions have been mainly reported in patients with delusions of persecution and of remorse, while frontal and frontotemporal involvement have been described in patients with grandiose delusions, Cotard’s syndrome, and delusional misidentification syndrome.[30]
Treatment[edit]
Patients suffering from schizophrenia, grandiose and religious delusions are found to be the least susceptible to cognitive behavioral interventions.[21] Cognitive behavioral intervention is a form of psychological therapy, initially used for depression,[31] but currently used for a variety of different mental disorders, in hope of providing relief from distress and disability.[32] During therapy, grandiose delusions were linked to patients' underlying beliefs by using inference chaining.[31][33] Some examples of interventions performed to improve the patient's state were focus on specific themes, clarification of neologisms, and thought linkage.[33] During thought linkage, the patient is asked repeatedly by the therapist to explain his/her jumps in thought from one subject, to a completely different one.[33]
Patients suffering from mental disorders that experience grandiose delusions have been found to have a lower risk of having suicidal thoughts and attempts.[34]
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I would sooner go in and train with my power bands and put 95% of the guys in my gym to shame than be a "Bench Warrior"
I take pride in telling people I dont bench and watch their quizzical expressions as my shoulders and arms bulge through my t-shirt as I take a sip from my water. ;D
well can not argue your physique, that's for dam sure, you look amazing ;)
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I would sooner go in and train with my power bands and put 95% of the guys in my gym to shame than be a "Bench Warrior"
I take pride in telling people I dont bench and watch their quizzical expressions as my shoulders and arms bulge through my t-shirt as I take a sip from my water. ;D
you've been reading too many of groinks posts :D
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I take pride in telling people I dont bench and watch their quizzical expressions as my shoulders and arms bulge through my t-shirt as I take a sip from my water. ;D
That happened to me the other day, then I realized I put on my son's under armour by mistake.
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In the jungle the Lion roars in the gym the bench is the pride of most lifters since the 60's.
If you can not bench, you are not a gym warrior, simple as that. Only exception is if you are injured or if benching cause inappropriate soreness.
Most common question in the world of the gym, ''what do you bench'' it counts bro, stop playing dumb. ;)
if this is too childish for you then get the fuck off a hardcore bodybuilding forum, lol :-\
QFT. in the past 48 hours I've had two girls as me how much I can bench. Not even bikini competitors, just little gym rats. It's the test of manhood and every guy should chase a big bench IMO. Im actually going to put together a 12 week training program for mine.
probably one max effort day and one light day.
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QFT. in the past 48 hours I've had two girls as me how much I can bench. Not even bikini competitors, just little gym rats. It's the test of manhood and every guy should chase a big bench IMO.
You should mix in the company of adults, you wont get asked that question too often if you do.
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seems 7/10 times I got to walmart I get asked 'damn bro.. how much do you bench?', either by some dude holding a petition looking for signatures or the dude bagging my items. my usual reply is 'oh, about 525.. I'm been going easy lately' lol.. dumbasses can't tell i'm fucking with them... then half the time they ask how do they trim down their stomach, and i'm tempted to tell them the old Nasser line of "cat food is the best diet food", but I just tell them the generic "diet dude.. no more pizza and bread, ect..".
the guys who ask how much you bench are either old ex-drug addicts or young 19yr old kids who don't know what a deadlift is.
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I think the majority of the time when I've been asked what I bench it's blatantly by someone who wouldn't know the difference between kg and lbs. I just make shit up to amuse myself
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seems 7/10 times I got to walmart I get asked 'damn bro.. how much do you bench?', either by some dude holding a petition looking for signatures or the dude bagging my items. my usual reply is 'oh, about 525.. I'm been going easy lately' lol.. dumbasses can't tell i'm fucking with them... then half the time they ask how do they trim down their stomach, and i'm tempted to tell them the old Nasser line of "cat food is the best diet food", but I just tell them the generic "diet dude.. no more pizza and bread, ect..".
the guys who ask how much you bench are either old ex-drug addicts or young 19yr old kids who don't know what a deadlift is.
Only clip I could find.
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you take two guys
one guy benches 315 20 times naturally
another guy benches 315 20 times but he's on a bunch of androgens
assuming both have equal muscle fiber types, the same technique, I think the guy on drugs will probably have a much better one rep max.
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you take two guys
one guy benches 315 20 times naturally
another guy benches 315 20 times but he's on a bunch of androgens
assuming both have equal muscle fiber types, the same technique, I think the guy on drugs will probably have a much better one rep max.
All that for a "thought"
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Last night I smashed five competition-style singles with 405. No hand-offs.
8)
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Last night I smashed five competition-style singles with 405. No hand-offs.
8)
Did you miss "no homo" off that post?
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Did you miss "no homo" off that post?
Apparently it really IS only gay if you want it to be.
Clearly you want it to be.
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Apparently it really IS only gay if you want it to be.
Clearly you want it to be.
Hands off. :-*
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Yesterday...
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Yesterday...
Nice!
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Yesterday...
Better bench than 99% of getbig.
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Thanks. The only thing I didn't do was pause at the bottom. That's because my spotter (my son) was taking the video.
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Yesterday...
fuck ya, very nice, ;) 4plates like nothing
strong for life, coach will be doing 3 plates in his 70's
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you take two guys
one guy benches 315 20 times naturally
another guy benches 315 20 times but he's on a bunch of androgens
assuming both have equal muscle fiber types, the same technique, I think the guy on drugs will probably have a much better one rep max.
hmm, interesting, never thought of that and for some reason it seems right
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Thanks. The only thing I didn't do was pause at the bottom. That's because my spotter (my son) was taking the video.
Good solid lift, very strong
why didn't you get your son to do a liftoff ? I'm not brave enough to go over 2 plates without a spotter anymore.
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Nice bench Coach
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Good solid lift, very strong
why didn't you get your son to do a liftoff ? I'm not brave enough to go over 2 plates without a spotter anymore.
He was the one shooting the video
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I'm weak :(
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I'm weak :(
A thick and striated chest is what matters.
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Very nice...
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Great lift coach - like someone else said, 99 % of the general population can't do that
PROPS
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A thick and striated chest is what matters.
That's how to develop a thick, striated chest.
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That's how to develop a thick, striated chest.
X2. If you're not a pussy.
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Great lift coach - like someone else said, 99 % of the general population can't do that
PROPS
99.9 id day, there aint many plus 400 benchers walking them streets!
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That's how to develop a thick, striated chest.
Correction: it's one of the possible routes, and an almost 100% guaranteed route to rotator cuff problems.
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Just tuck the elbows, pull the bar apart, use your lats, flare on the way up, good leg drive while pinching the shoulder blades, stay tight the whole time .... bahahhahahah
That will protect your shoulders coach ..... just being a dink here coach, good advice for sure to help extend your benching life
Proof hard work and consistency is superior to drugs over the long run - how many pro powerlifters are still making gains in their 40's, not too many I am sure
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Uk powerlifter Dave Beattie just broke his pb and his own British squat record at the age of 52.
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Great for the 52 year old guy !
Like I said though - MOST guys are finished by 40 "ish"
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Correction: it's one of the possible routes, and an almost 100% guaranteed route to rotator cuff problems.
T-Rex is correct. In 39 years of training and I mean heavy training, I've never had a shoulder problem. Problems occur from 1. Bringing the bar down to the upper part you chest causing the elbows to become parallel with the ears (wrong bar path) 2. Overuse from too much volume on a power exercise. 3. Not bringing the bar to full ROM and/or stopping the bar 1/2 way down (which is retarded in itself but people still insist it's the right way ::)).
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99.9 id day, there aint many plus 400 benchers walking them streets!
no not even close, more like 99.99 and the even higher yet.
Your number 99.9 means 1 in 1000, that means in a city with a million people there is 1000 people that can bench 400, hell no.
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no not even close, more like 99.99 and the even higher yet.
Your number 99.9 means 1 in 1000, that means in a city with a million people there is 1000 people that can bench 400, hell no.
Epic Pedantic post of peace. ;D
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T-Rex is correct. In 39 years of training and I mean heavy training, I've never had a shoulder problem. Problems occur from 1. Bringing the bar down to the upper part you chest causing the elbows to become parallel with the ears (wrong bar path) 2. Overuse from too much volume on a power exercise. 3. Not bringing the bar to full ROM and/or stopping the bar 1/2 way down (which is retarded in itself but people still insist it's the right way ::)).
I can only speak for myself and those with the same problems (many!). In most cases I didn't made one of those 3 mistakes. The possible cause is prob a small shoulder imbalance in my case. As a result I can't perform pushing movements with fixed grips (barbells & machines), both for the pecs & delts, without immediate pain.
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A thick and striated chest is what matters.
My chest won't grow anymore. ???
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I can only speak for myself and those with the same problems (many!). In most cases I didn't made one of those 3 mistakes. The possible cause is prob a small shoulder imbalance in my case. As a result I can't perform pushing movements with fixed grips (barbells & machines), both for the pecs & delts, without immediate pain.
I have to retract my statement about not having an injury. I tore my pec when I was 40. Nothing serious but was out for a couple of weeks.
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Just tuck the elbows, pull the bar apart, use your lats, flare on the way up, good leg drive while pinching the shoulder blades, stay tight the whole time .... bahahhahahah
That will protect your shoulders coach ..... just being a dink here coach, good advice for sure to help extend your benching life
Proof hard work and consistency is superior to drugs over the long run - how many pro powerlifters are still making gains in their 40's, not too many I am sure
how the f do you flare your lats while pinching the shoulder blades??????
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My chest won't grow anymore. ???
You're experiencing that? If so, try different exercises, stretch and make sure you fully recover.
I have to retract my statement about not having an injury. I tore my pec when I was 40. Nothing serious but was out for a couple of weeks.
Sorry to hear that, this is one of those lifter's nightmares :-\
Has it effected your strength and symmetry?
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You flare the elbows on the way up is what I was talking about ...... I was being a little sarcastic :D
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You're experiencing that? If so, try different exercises, stretch and make sure you fully recover.
Sorry to hear that, this is one of those lifter's nightmares :-\
Has it effected your strength and symmetry?
This was almost 12 years ago. Hasn't affected my strength but I do have a small asymmetry at the insertion of my left pec. It can be seen mostly when I diet down.
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how the f do you flare your lats while pinching the shoulder blades??????
it's different.. you can flex (flare) your lats without spreading your scapula.
if you flex your lats, it'll create a few inches of forward movement in my elbows/upperarms.
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315lbs (140kg) bench press @ 164lbs bodyweight.
Good? :D I need to pop some var to get the number up to the 335 range ;D
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315lbs (140kg) bench press @ 164lbs bodyweight.
Good? :D I need to pop some var to get the number up to the 335 range ;D
doubt it. You've been training for strength...youve already learned to activate the muscle fibers you have. the only way you'll bench more is by gaining weight (muscle)
335 at 165 is not happening for you
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doubt it. You've been training for strength...youve already learned to activate the muscle fibers you have. the only way you'll bench more is by gaining weight (muscle)
335 at 165 is not happening for you
?????
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doubt it. You've been training for strength...youve already learned to activate the muscle fibers you have. the only way you'll bench more is by gaining weight (muscle)
335 at 165 is not happening for you
Tendons and ligaments can get stronger while weight does not increase, hence a higher bench and with the right combinations of stimulants and increase compounds I can see another 50lb being reached, 365 is even possible.
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doubt it. You've been training for strength...youve already learned to activate the muscle fibers you have. the only way you'll bench more is by gaining weight (muscle)
335 at 165 is not happening for you
I've seen guys twice smaller than me benching way more so no, I haven't learned to activate muscle fibers I have ;) It's a long process, it takes years to reach your potential.
380lbs is my dream bench, I can gain few kgs of muscles, that's no problem. It will take few years I guess. I could get there sooner with more weight increase and heavy abuse but it's kinda pointless IMO. I don't mind being called "weak for someone enhanced", I couldn't care less about opinions of guys who cannot distinguish between modest use and heavy abuse.
Being fat or unhealthy for the sake of strength is not really my thing.
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105 lbs.
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My biggest concern atm is that my squat and deadlift hasn't progressed at all for a year. I'm stuck at 210kg-ish deadlift and 180kg-ish squat and had upper back injury. Really frustrating, I got really close to that on creatine and my weak upper back limits any progress. Heavy good mornings, and russian planks must help, if they don't I am not sure what to do. Adding weight to bench is easy - bench 2-3 times per week reasonably heavy, add 2.5kg every week to your heaviest day and deload every once a while. With deads I could propably abuse the shit out of myself and I still wouldn't deadlift more without fixing upper back issue.
Back to the topic:
This guy is awesome:
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/01/02/30859972/progresspic/KeAmWftIxtboDVpRsUWkQokxSGDWcyEMwYWp-610xh.jpg)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/11/05/30859972/progresspic/OixMiCmBrsrjWksOCCsSpcGPRAlsyDVKwloS-610xh.jpg)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/11/07/30859972/progresspic/tMJmDzDIsDDmztPdfFHaSOItbWXWkAsJbUpe-610xh.jpg)
But I heard powerlifters are fat and look like shit? :D I wonder what he uses. Does not seem too bloated.
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My biggest concern atm is that my squat and deadlift hasn't progressed at all for a year. I'm stuck at 210kg-ish deadlift and 180kg-ish squat and had upper back injury. Really frustrating, I got really close to that on creatine and my weak upper back limits any progress. Heavy good mornings, and russian planks must help, if they don't I am not sure what to do. Adding weight to bench is easy - bench 2-3 times per week reasonably heavy, add 2.5kg every week to your heaviest day and deload every once a while. With deads I could propably abuse the shit out of myself and I still wouldn't deadlift more without fixing upper back issue.
Back to the topic:
This guy is awesome:
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/01/02/30859972/progresspic/KeAmWftIxtboDVpRsUWkQokxSGDWcyEMwYWp-610xh.jpg)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/11/05/30859972/progresspic/OixMiCmBrsrjWksOCCsSpcGPRAlsyDVKwloS-610xh.jpg)
(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2013/11/07/30859972/progresspic/tMJmDzDIsDDmztPdfFHaSOItbWXWkAsJbUpe-610xh.jpg)
But I heard powerlifters are fat and look like shit? :D I wonder what he uses. Does not seem too bloated.
this guy is a freak of nature, unreal, he can crush records in his future.
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He is Levrone'sque
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a 260 lb lean bodybuilder with a 400lb bench press will get to a 500lb bench press much quicker than a 200lb powerlifter with years of high intensity strength training under his belt assuming the bber has a lot more muscle. A bodybuilders muscles are strong but his nervous system is weak. He just needs to learn to tap into that potential.
Not sure why you disagree, your boy Louie simmons has talked about this before.
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Look at okami from here...crushing records left and right making gains in two years most powerlifters take years to achieve. squatted 800 I think?
Reason is He learned to activate and tap into the muscle he had all along.
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a 260 lb lean bodybuilder with a 400lb bench press will get to a 500lb bench press much quicker than a 200lb powerlifter with years of high intensity strength training under his belt assuming the bber has a lot more muscle. A bodybuilders muscles are strong but his nervous system is weak. He just needs to learn to tap into that potential.
Not sure why you disagree, your boy Louie simmons has talked about this before.
What makes a strong lift has so many variables, which means so may things can increase the lift without body weight increase. For example; a stronger joint, a stronger ligament, a stronger mind, more stimulants, for you to say someone has reached their max is such a big assumption because you are assuming his ligaments can not get stronger, his joints can not get stronger, his mind can not get stronger, hell you are even suggesting that he has the perfect combination of stimulants and compounds figured out.
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a 260 lb lean bodybuilder with a 400lb bench press will get to a 500lb bench press much quicker than a 200lb powerlifter with years of high intensity strength training under his belt assuming the bber has a lot more muscle. A bodybuilders muscles are strong but his nervous system is weak. He just needs to learn to tap into that potential.
Not sure why you disagree, your boy Louie simmons has talked about this before.
So you understand that bodybuilding and power lifting are two different training protocols. Power lifters don't train really train for hypertrophy but for power. Also most bodybuilding workouts are random while PL is an actual plan and usually well documented. If a bodybuilder reaches a goal weight say on bench, it's because upped the dose and not due to his training. Very rarely, exept the bodybuilders that powerlift in the offseason like JOJ, don't train for power. Again, there's a difference between power, strength, hypertrophy and muscular endurance.
It's not that uncommon for a 181lb PL to hit well over 500 in a bench.
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So you understand that bodybuilding and power lifting are two different training protocols. Power lifters don't train really train for hypertrophy but for power. Also most bodybuilding workouts are random while PL is an actual plan and usually well documented. If a bodybuilder reaches a goal weight say on bench, it's because upped the dose and not due to his training. Very rarely, exept the bodybuilders that powerlift in the offseason like JOJ, don't train for power. Again, there's a difference between power, strength, hypertrophy and muscular endurance.
It's not that uncommon for a 181lb PL to hit well over 500 in a bench.
Raw it sure is. Very uncommon.
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Raw it sure is. Very uncommon.
Yeah, not without a bench shirt.
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Raw it sure is. Very uncommon.
I was going to comment on this but decided to let it go since the rest of coach's post was pretty good but ya, he put his foot in his mouth with that one.
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coach neglected to mention that said powerlifters are 4'6" and under ::)
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I was going to comment on this but decided to let it go since the rest of coach's post was pretty good but ya, he put his foot in his mouth with that one.
USA Powerlifting alone has something like 15 in the 181's at over 500 raw. The highest being 584.
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Depends on the federation also. Some federations have stricter judging than others. Over 225kg @ 82.5kg is incredibly rare in IPF. Also, IPF is a tested federation so test, var and dianabol are the only compounds you can use, var and dianabol only in off season. Pre contest test only, then prop, then HRT dose of gel and shit like that.
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So you understand that bodybuilding and power lifting are two different training protocols. Power lifters don't train really train for hypertrophy but for power. Also most bodybuilding workouts are random while PL is an actual plan and usually well documented. If a bodybuilder reaches a goal weight say on bench, it's because upped the dose and not due to his training. Very rarely, exept the bodybuilders that powerlift in the offseason like JOJ, don't train for power. Again, there's a difference between power, strength, hypertrophy and muscular endurance.
It's not that uncommon for a 181lb PL to hit well over 500 in a bench.
I agree with this. But I was simply advising deceiver. At the end to the day the three methods of strength training...the dynamic effort method, the maximal effort method, and the repetition method Westiside still admits that the repetition method (lifting a sub maximal load to failure) yields the greatest gains in maximal strength due to an increase in number of muscle size. Even more so than the maximal effort method at lifting weights 90% plus in the 1-3 rep range. You know this coach Im not telling you anything you don't know.
but the fact is a guy like deceiver (any guy really) is going to severely limit his bench potential by keeping his weight under a certain limit
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USA Powerlifting alone has something like 15 in the 181's at over 500 raw. The highest being 584.
No need to beat this into the ground, but if you are talking equipped lifters, then yes there are many. Raw, I don't know of anyone right now. Unless you count those Paralympics competitors. However that is not really the same thing in terms of bodyweight due to obvious reasons.