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I guess Nasser didn't make much during his time as a professional bodybuilder. He sounds like he still wants money from Milos.
From: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson322.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson322.htm)
"You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).
Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.
He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.
Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised."
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hmm interesting! great find bro
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"where's my money..huh where's my money"
-Stewie Griffen
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I guess Nasser didn't make much during his time as a professional bodybuilder. He sounds like he still wants money from Milos.
From: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson322.htm (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson322.htm)
You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).
Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.
He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.
Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised.
Do you want to join Team Nasser? You should give us your original account handle so we can add you :)
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Show me a bodybuilder that is not vain, come on ....it`s a by product of the sport. Milos has helped many and his training principles get results, he doesn`t force anyone to train with him. Love him or hate him, he has been around a long time and is one of the few who has made a career out of bodybuilding.
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Show me a bodybuilder that is not vain, come on ....it`s a by product of the sport. Milos has helped many and his training principles get results, he doesn`t force anyone to train with him. Love him or hate him, he has been around a long time and is one of the few who has made a career out of bodybuilding.
But NASSER said that those go to Milos are doing so for steroid programs not really training advice, and Milos got all his knowledge from NASSER.
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I doubt Nasser lent Milos the money to buy the steroids. He probably fronted him the steroids and that is why Milos owes him.
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sounds like a cheap attempt at self promotion.
"I know Milos is popular these days, but i taught him everything he knows, so you should contact me for your training/steroid info."
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sounds like a cheap attempt at self promotion.
"I know Milos is popular these days, but i taught him everything he knows, so you should contact me for your training/steroid info."
i don't know. it seems to me like nasser is mad and now that he isn't competing he can say what he wants.
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what idiot would think someone retired and wants nothing to do with the sport would self-promote himself?
piss off
TEAM NASSER
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what idiot would think someone retired and wants nothing to do with the sport would self-promote himself?
piss off
TEAM NASSER
he's retired from competing, he's self promoting himself for training, you Romanian douchebag.
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sounds like a cheap attempt at self promotion.
"I know Milos is popular these days, but i taught him everything he knows, so you should contact me for your training/steroid info."
Did you even read the interview? He kept saying countless times that he hates it when people come and ask him for drug advice.
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Oh gee, shock and horror. What a fascinating revelation. Milos is vain and thrives on attention....
Bottom line, Milos is wealthy and successful. Women 'melt' when they meet him. He has a 'sexual energy' that makes him 'a magnet' to some of the most beautiful woman on the planet.
Yes, Milos has many flaws, so what?
But one thing is for certain, Nasser will never get a cent out of Milos.
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Show me a bodybuilder that is not vain, come on ....it`s a by product of the sport.
Show me a bodybuilder who isn't vain, and I'll show you a shitty bodybuilder that no one has ever heard of.
One *must* be vain in order to be a decent bodybuilder - this is not an option, but a requirement.
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I guess Nasser didn't make much during his time as a professional bodybuilder. He sounds like he still wants money from Milos.
That $2500 would be worth about $4000 today.
Even if you consider that a small amount of money, it's still a matter of principle - you make a loan to someone, you expect to be repaid.
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Oh cry me a river! Nasser is broke and he wants his money....hahahahahha.
You are going to be waiting forever Nasser. Milos doesnt 'stoop that low' as to appease your pathetic-state-of-affairs.
Poor little Nasser; broke, undermuscled and crying about a few lousy dollars. Milos thinks you are such a worthless, good for nothing loser.
Good luck to you Milos, dont give this 'nasty piece of work' a cent from your fortune!
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Oh cry me a river! Nasser is broke and he wants his money....hahahahahha.
You are going to be waiting forever Nasser. Milos doesnt 'stoop that low' as to appease your pathetic-state-of-affairs.
Poor little Nasser; broke, undermuscled and crying about a few lousy dollars. Milos thinks you are such a worthless, good for nothing loser.
Good luck to you Milos, dont give this 'nasty piece of work' a cent from your fortune!
im sure he still loves you but i do agreee he wont see nada from mishko,,maybe some vitargo in discount? or what was it mentioned before snakeoil something ;) :D
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Women 'melt' when they meet him. He has a 'sexual energy' that makes him 'a magnet' to some of the most beautiful woman on the planet.
Translation: "Hank Wood 'melts' when he mets him. He has a 'sexual energy that makes him a 'magnet' to hank wood."
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Oh cry me a river! Nasser is broke and he wants his money....hahahahahha.
You are going to be waiting forever Nasser. Milos doesnt 'stoop that low' as to appease your pathetic-state-of-affairs.
Poor little Nasser; broke, undermuscled and crying about a few lousy dollars.
Nasser broke? He's retired, financially independant, and making great investment money off of commercial real estate. Not to mention his merchandise sales. If Nasser were they type to cry over a few dollars he would not have waited 12 years to reveal it. In contrast, how long did Milos wait to reveal that Mustafa owed him money? Nasser also laughed when he mentioned Milos hasn't paid him back - he didn't really seem to care whether or not he gets the money he just felt as a matter of principle its only fair to smudge Milos' name since Milos pulled a cheap stunt with him.
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In contrast, how long did Milos wait to reveal that Mustafa owed him money?
Are you saying that Nasser should collect off Mustafa?
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Hahahah Milos owns nasser el nobody ;D
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Milos has always done very well with the ladies. They are lured to this man by his charm, style and wit.
I think that this 'cry baby' who goes by the name of Nasser, is incredibly jealous of Milos. Why else would this very 'unattractive man' come out in an interview and try to demonise Milos?
Nasser, you need to move on with your life! Just because you are broke and women are revolted by you, does not give you the license to go and attack Milos' credibility!
Deal with your demons Nasser.
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Oh gee, shock and horror. What a fascinating revelation. Milos is vain and thrives on attention....
Bottom line, Milos is wealthy and successful. Women 'melt' when they meet him. He has a 'sexual energy' that makes him 'a magnet' to some of the most beautiful woman on the planet.
Yes, Milos has many flaws, so what?
But one thing is for certain, Nasser will never get a cent out of Milos.
i agree with your last sentence
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You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).
Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.
He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.
Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised.
;D ;D ;D
Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?
Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law ;))
Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."
It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.
After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.
Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".
Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...
I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"
Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....
My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"
He didn't answer.
Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).
Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.
THE REST IS HISTORY.
Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... ;). Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)
Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.
Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)
But - anyway...
Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)
At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...
Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.
To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...
The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...
Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...
They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...
I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...
But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?
Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... ;)
Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...
What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
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i belive u Milos,,,Nasser is an a--hole
btw selling used cloth on his website is a scam of innocent mindless people's money
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;D ;D Ouch.
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Nasser broke? He's retired, financially independent, and making great investment money off of commercial real estate. Not to mention his merchandise sales. If Nasser were they type to cry over a few dollars he would not have waited 12 years to reveal it. In contrast, how long did Milos wait to reveal that Mustafa owed him money? Nasser also laughed when he mentioned Milos hasn't paid him back - he didn't really seem to care whether or not he gets the money he just felt as a matter of principle its only fair to smudge Milos' name since Milos pulled a cheap stunt with him.
Ah yes, the lap of luxury. :-\
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson322_o.jpg)
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As always the details in the story are pretty impressive so Milos props to you, for not holding anything back. Dan
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Hey Milos,
I'll tell you what... you can train me with your expert knowledge, which I truly believe you have, and I promise - no, instead, I SWEAR - that twelve years later I will NOT say you owe me any money. What do you say? =)
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You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).
Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.
He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.
Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised.
;D ;D ;D
Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?
Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law ;))
Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."
It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.
After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.
Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".
Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...
I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"
Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....
My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"
He didn't answer.
Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).
Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.
THE REST IS HISTORY.
Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... ;). Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)
Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.
Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)
But - anyway...
Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)
At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...
Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.
To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...
The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...
Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...
They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...
I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...
But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?
Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... ;)
Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...
What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
THOUSENDS OF THANK YOUS MILOS! FOR WHAT ? eVER SINCE ARNOLD 95 i WONDERED HOW IN THE WORLD DID NASSER MANAGE TO MAKE SUCH A JUMP IN WEIGHT AND CONDITION. rON lOVE DID NOT KNOW THAT U WERE RESPONSIBLE ALTHOUGH HE POINTED OUT THAT IT MIGHT BE THAT HE EXPERIMENTED WITH INSULIN AND FOUND A FORMULA THAT WORKED . s THANX FOR CLEARING UP A 12 YO RIDDLE . ;)
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the truth is probably somewhere in the middle somewhere in all of this. when nasser started winning there were a few people that took credit for teaching nasser how to use insulin. there was an article written a long time ago i copied i believe off of anbolic extreme that used fictious names that was talking about nasser when he blewup off of insulin. it said he dropped down because he was worried about how the judges would accept him gaining so much in a yr.
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from what I understand....
Nass thinks or believes....everyone is out after him. Not sure what's bringing on the paranoia....but he thinks everyone is out to use him.
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oh...& maybe someone can explain why Nass only travels with a posse?
Kind of weird if you ask me.
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It is common knowledge in bodybuilding circles that Nasser is intimidated by Milos; always has been.
Milos dont waste another thought on this 'nobody'. Nasser has 'issues' with everyone and everything. He is a sad and pathetic individual who takes pleasure in the game of 'character assassination'.
Great post Milos, thanks for shedding some light on this shady and loathed man they call ' Nasser, the unattractive one'.
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damn. didn't know nasser was such a douchebag. but what can you expect from someone selling soiled posing trunks... :-\
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Ah yes, the lap of luxury. :-\
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson322_o.jpg)
How does that imply that he's not doing well financially? Do financially independent people not have health problems?
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It is common knowledge in bodybuilding circles that Nasser is intimidated by Milos; always has been.
Yeah, Nasser intimidated of someone who was never a threat to his placings? Yes, I'm in the top 3 at the Mr. Olympia but I'm intimidated by someone who will never make top 6 lol.
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Great response by Milos! So basically Milos is responsible for Nasser’s success and transformation post-94! ::)
Most of Milos’ reply is about how he discussed his training journals with Nasser, which I don’t see how is relevant to the topic of the thread and accusation that Milos borrowed $2550 from Nasser never to pay him back? Then near the end he implies that Nasser simply made it up? So basically Milos gave Nasser the secrets to move up in the ranks after 94, and then in response 12 years later Nasser for no reason blatantly makes up that Milos borrowed $2550 for him? Wonder where he got that number from. Yup, that sounds like a realistic scenario!
You’re trying to use to your advantage the fact that Nasser was above repeatedly hounding you over $2550 and instead left it in your hands, to finally get frustrated and come out 12 years later about it, by questioning why he would 12 years lol.
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I don't believe for a second that Chad never used the plasma expanders on any of his athletes like he claimed on Muscle Mayhem. I know "TooPowerful4U" on this forum claims he knows for a fact that hotel staff found a IV drip stand in Ronnie's room at the Olympia a couple of years ago. Anyone hear this?
Chad also said that Milos was not the "nutritionist" they were laughing at. Don't know about that.
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the truth is probably somewhere in the middle somewhere in all of this.
Exactly.
My guess is that Milos does indeed owe Nasser money for steroids, but Nasser did not want to admit that it was he himself who fronted them to Milos. He doesn't want to incriminate himself as a juice dealer yet on the other hand is openly making Milos look bad (or at least cheap). Something along these lines make more sense to me, but it is just my opinion.
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Nasser is a moose-lamb, which by definition means he is lying, destructive, scumbag.
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I can confirm as being one of Milos's athletes to have seen his journals!!! Milos was so kind to let me borrow his 1999 journal in which he competing in every Ifbb show they had that year!! to the exact time and exact letter all his info was there!!!! It was like a bible to me!
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I can confirm as being one of Milos's athletes to have seen his journals!!! Milos was so kind to let me borrow his 1999 journal in which he competing in every Ifbb show they had that year!! to the exact time and exact letter all his info was there!!!! It was like a bible to me!
...and yet you still only placed marginally higher than Jocellyn Pelletier...
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I can confirm as being one of Milos's athletes to have seen his journals!!! Milos was so kind to let me borrow his 1999 journal in which he competing in every Ifbb show they had that year!! to the exact time and exact letter all his info was there!!!! It was like a bible to me!
What am I not getting here? How are Milos' journals at all relevant to the topic at hand of borrowing money and not paying back? Even most of Milos' response was about his journals. ???
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To all the guys from TEAM NAZI: Milos just owned you all
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What am I not getting here? How are Milos' journals at all relevant to the topic at hand of borrowing money and not paying back? Even most of Milos' response was about his journals. ???
...twelve years later the $2550 claim, and calf-implant claim surfaces. If this was true, in those twelve years, we would've heard about it.
Which is more benneficial for a BB-hopeful: Milos' journal; or a scumbag's soiled old trunks? Milos has paid his dues for the sport of pro-BB. He's a very successful athelete, who only wants to help his comrade-BB-ers to reach maximum potential; even if they have to compete against him. Whether the $2550 claim is true or untrue, Milos would've paid it in cash.
I read Nasser's Part 1 and 2 interview. This $2550 claim is the only most interresting topic, of the interview. Why was he interviewed again? What has Nasser really done to help his fellow competitors (including Milos); other than getting and comparing the free advice from Milos and Chad? Nothing!! But he placed well, from information! You did your homework really well, you SNAKE!
Nasser when you decide to have your own protien drink, you should call it "FREE-LOADER"...add your old trunks and call it a deuche-bag combo.
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"Blah blah blarg"..
Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...
What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
This part seems pretty cut and dry, to me at least. The rest I'm sure has its truth falling somewhere in the middle. BTW Milos, you have my complete respect in the world of BB, you have brought clear, rational thought to a sport quite often devoid of and instead filled to overflow with ego and spite. Everyone everywhere has an agenda they are pushing, you are not exempt from this, however you appear to have the best interest of the sport ultimately at heart. Everyone must make their own decisions.
Cheers,
Luinitari
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This part seems pretty cut and dry, to me at least. The rest I'm sure has its truth falling somewhere in the middle. BTW Milos, you have my complete respect in the world of BB, you have brought clear, rational thought to a sport quite often devoid of and instead filled to overflow with ego and spite. Everyone everywhere has an agenda they are pushing, you are not exempt from this, however you appear to have the best interest of the sport ultimately at heart. Everyone must make their own decisions.
Cheers,
Luinitari
...well said/written Luinitari.
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Yeah that PE thing was a huge guise, that went on for a long time.
Someone got that stored?
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It's stored on Milos' site
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Yeah that PE thing was a huge guise, that went on for a long time.
Someone got that stored?
http://milossarcev.com/board/index.php?topic=556.0
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Chad Nichols column/ july 2003 MD/ PE debate
« on: May 21, 2003, 09:08:46 PM » Reply with quote
Chad, I just had a chance to read your “PLASMA EXPANDERS” column and it bothered me so much that I had to respond immediately.
You call yourself straight shooter, “tell it like it is” kind a guy…so explain me couple of things.
Does straight shooter truly “love f**king with a person’s head and tries to confuse someone as much as they can” –as you admit in your article.
As you and MD “always bring the truth in bodybuilding”- you are revealing the simple honest truth about crazy plasma expanders rumor.
You mention that after the Olympia 1997 one of your athletes (NASSER) told completely fabricated story of how he used 5 bags of Dextran (plasma expander) and Manitol (osmotic diuretic) to some nutritionist (ME).
Later both of you laughed your asses off and down deep (whatever that means?) as I believed the story.
I don’t need to remind you that I voluntarily shared priceless contest prep information that was crucial to make both of your careers.
I did it as a friend, with no charge…and I explained to both Nasser (end of 1994, beginning of 1995) and you (later in 1995) in great details something that even you mentioned Nasser called $100000.00 information.
Needles to say Nasser went from “happy to be at the Olympia” kind of competitor –to major contender for the title. Improvements he made on that program were first revealed at Houston Pro Invitational and Night Of Champions 1995 – he won both shows,
convincing everyone that Dorian would have nightmares preparing for the Olympia.
You on another hand got your chance with arrival of diuretic testing (1996).
I have witnessed with my own eyes that Nasser is capable of misinforming people (competitors) and than laughing about it. So, I believe now that this was the case at 1997 post Olympia Banquet. I hope you guys had really good laugh (deep down your asses as you so nicely put it).
My once good friendship with Nasser was terminated exactly because I could not accept how he treated other people (competitors) – putting them in dangerous situation, trying to boycott what they work so hard for…and than laugh about it.
I didn’t know that you are the same breed.
So many competitors sacrifice tremendously with the hope that this sport is going to get them somewhere. Usually this is their only egg in a basket and they would consciously sacrifice their health, family life, time, money –everything with that one goal in mind – to excel in bodybuilding and make a good living for their family.
They would go to reputable guys like you two – to take a chance to be confused or lied to?
Now, let’s just be analytical for the moment. How could rumor about plasma expanders ever start?
Nasser just woke up one day, found that word in dictionary and decided to use it?
No Chad –you told him. Just like you told me in 1996, when you were trying to return me a favor…and told me (in front of my wife Milamar, as she gave me paper and pen to write your suggestion).
I am holding that piece of paper (I can scan it and send it to you). It says DEXTRAN 5% solution, HESPAN 2.5% saline solution, MACRODEX 6% solution
Take 500 ml six hours apart. Total of 3 bottles.
Just before 1997 Mr. Olympia, you told Paul Dillett to call me and ask me if I would recommend you to be his advisor and if he should try “some IV stuff” –as Paul put it. I told him that personally I am afraid of IV administration, but there is valid theory behind it.
On that note, as you said that so-called guru (ME) should have common sense and immediately pick up plasma expander story to be bullnuts.
Well. 1998 we spend a long time on the phone when you were trying to explain me every aspect of validity to use PE. On top you offered me “special kind” of MANITOL injection that you can bring to the NOC.
As I didn’t have money I did not buy it. Ronnie (working with you) shocked the World and won. As we were always good friends he did confessed to me that at that show he was cramping violently. He said – for the first time I was afraid I am going to die!
To reveal myself, as well –I used plasma expenders in many shows –experimenting until I got it down –perfectly.
I was successful in three shows –Ironman 1999 (placed second to Cormier, beating Cutler, Gunter, Priest, Darrem…), 1999 Arnold Classic (top 5, with 250 pounds –my heaviest competition weight), 1999 -2nd place in Canada…etc
So, there is a way of doing it…but in general I agree –it is not worth it.
It is only depressing to know, that you too - find amusing and funny playing with people’s health, careers…lives!
I can live with a great piece in my heart, as I know I only gave my best possible advice to anyone that ever asked me for one. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of people out there that I would like to ask IF I ever gave them misleading advice. I could have kept some very important secrets just for me – instead I helped many bodybuilders excelling to the point they were beating me. I don’t regret it for a second. What I regret is hearing something like this article and realize that you and Nasser were so grateful to me that you decided to play with me. Russian Roulette would also be just fine …
With friends like this who needs enemies?
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Tom Prince:
MILOS: *Since you and I are friends, I hope I can interject in a way that eases how you feel following having read Chad's article in MD.
I remember very, VERY clearly, telling you that Nasser was ****ing with you, and giving you bullnuts info. *We were backstage at the 1999 Night Of Champions when I told you. *I told you Chad didn't use the plasma expanders on any of his athlete's. *
I wish you hadn't chosen to believe Nasser, instead of me. *BUt, being better friends with Nasser, I do understand. *
Since Chad and I have talked about the plasma expanders at least 100 times, I'm going to answer your post of Chad's behalf. *He doesn't need me to, but I can be impartial and fair to both of you.
At one point, Chad DID think the plasma expanders could be a plausible way to dry an athlete out, and pass the diuretic test. *This was before he really had any experience in using it, and prior to him having any solid imperical evidence either for, or against, the plasma expanders.
Since I happen to familiar with the timeframe (1996), and series of how these events and conversations between you two took place, I can tell you with absolute certainty, YOU WERE TALKING TO CHAD BEFORE HE HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY RESEARCH THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF PLASMA EXPANDERS.
Further, Chad gave you the formula for how they might work, or should work. *The truth, as you know, is that the plasma expanders do work.. for about 30 minutes or so. *The problem ISN'T that they work, it's in the time frame in which they work.
The 30 minute window a person has to rid the bloodstream of the fluid that was just pulled out of the sub-q layer, will spill back into the sub-q layer in you don't get it out of your bloodstream. * This is a brutally tough thing to master, and takes more precesion that would ever be worth all the work it takes. * I think you know all this already.
When Chad discovered all this, he never came close to using them. *Unfortuneately, you we're still believing Nasser's bullnuts.
Maybe Chad should have come to you and told you that he knew Nasser was being an not a very nice person, and lying to you. *But, if you know Chad, he doesn't butt into to other people's business. *So, I decided to tell what Chad and Nassser wouldn't. *
I thought Nasser was being a nutshead.. so I told you. *And now you know why.
I understand you feel betrayed by a friend. *But, I'm not sure you should be pointing a finger at Chad. * Chad never intentionally tried to **** with you. *Nasser did.
As always, you can call to talk to me about any of this. *I e-mailed you my phone number.
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Tom,
I hope you know that I respect you as a person and great bodybuilder.
I appreciate that you took the time to respond (wonder why CHAD didn’t?).
But, Chad’s article in MD was beyond disturbing and if you REALLY read it from very beginning this is a bottom line:
He (Chad) wants to clarify crazy little rumor about bodybuilders using plasma expanders.
He emphasize that he knew that one of his athletes had a conversation with certain nutritionist (by the way at that point I was ONLY a pro bodybuilder trying to do my job – compete as much as I can to make a living) and he was aware that his “jokester” athlete told me completely fabricated story.
Instead of making an effort and coming to me (like you did in 1999) and telling me the truth - he indeed LAUGHED HIS ASS OFF AND DOWN DEEP!
What does that tell you? Than he admits also to: QUOTE: “ I enjoy a great subject of controversy as much as anyone, AND TRULY LOVE f**kING WITH A PERSON’S HEAD (the more I can confuse someone the better)!”
What a great person to take advice from? And I did, as I trusted him, just like I trusted Nasser…as I believe if nothing else I gave them insight on some contest preparation secrets THEY NEVER NEW ABOUT (until that point, I guarantee it). Secrets that was crucial in both of their careers.
I certainly wouldn’t doubt Nasser after he told me EXACTLY what Chad recommended me before (but I was afraid to try it).
Nasser’s condition at 1997 Mr. Olympia was unbelievable and I was first to say that he deserved to win. I even sent the fax to Dorian telling him that, with detailed analysis why I believe Nasser was a better bodybuilder that day (irrelevant here, but I do want to mention that).
So, what would you (or any competitor) do in my position?
Chad knowing possible consequences could prevent them…but…
If all that was fabricated (in 1997) why would he told me exactly the same procedure for 1998 NOC?
Maybe you don’t know that, but for 1998 Night of Champions I was using plasma expenders the way Chad was instructing me over the phone. Only thing that he changed it this time around was – using specially made Manitol that only he had, and I could get it from him in New York.
Well, at that point I was broke, could not afford it and I decide it to buy manitol in pharmacy for fraction of his coast.
I used plasma expanders, looked great when I went to athletes meeting (around 11am or 12 –noon), and sure enough by the time of prejudging I spilled over worst possible way. My very possible top 5 finish (I managed to beat Matarazzo 2 weeks before in San Francisco, without PE) become wishful thinking (placed 11th).
Anyway, believe it or not – when you finally told me the truth after 1999 NOC, I never touch it again.
So, I did take your word over Nasser’s, but it was 2 years to late.
If you see the time I posted my previous post –it was around 2AM…after I did my cardio at midnight. That’s when I picked up MD to “kill the time”.
I was so outraged that I had to respond, and quite honestly I still am.
Thank you for taking the time Tom, it means a lot to me. I know that YOU care, unlike other people I called out to respond.
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Chad Nicholls:
Milos - you don't realize how big of an idiot you've just made yourself look like! You are so far off base here. Maybe Nasser did talk to you about the PE back then - BUT - you WERE NOT THE NUTRITIONIST Nasser spoke to at the Olympia Banquet in 1997 - Just like you stated above - I didn't even remotely think of you as a nutritionist back then, I thought of you as a pro body builder - so you've already jumped to conclusions on that point. And, if you want to know the reason we laughed our asses off - the person Nasser told his whopper to - and it was a whopper! Took it to heart and actually wrote out a plan from everything Nasser told him (and let me tell you the amounts that Nasser made up were just ridiculous!!!- and faxed this plan out to several people trying to pass it off as his own - now, Milos - does that sound like you? I don't think so!! I know you would've picked up on the complete Bullnuts immediately because it was just like I said, ridiculous!
But, since YOU opened the can of worms, we can definitely talk about this now.-The deal with Paul was so much of an untruth I don't know where to begin - that makes NO sense whatsoever that I would ask you to talk to Paul about having me work with him. First of all - I had been friends with Paul since 1992 - as he and Kim turned pro together at the North American and that's where our friendship began and from that point over the years, we started a working relationship. The truth is, I actually began working with Paul before Nasser - actually I started working with Nasser briefly after Paul - but I had already been friends with Paul for a long time - so I'm not sure where you got that story?? Maybe you and I talked about Paul and he and I working together - but to be honest with you - I have no idea where your story came from - still scratching my head on that one!
So, let's get to the Plasma expanders - if you are going to tell the truth - get it straight - the first time you and I talked about it was at the Caveman event - I believe it was May of 1997? Could've been 1996 - can't quite remember - but I do know that it had NOTHING to do with Manitol - the only product I had brought up and was looking into at the time was Albumin. I had told you that I had found this product - that it was a way around the diuretic test - that it looked like it was something that could work very good. And there was no joking behind that. When I first looked into this - I thought, yes, PE could be a very good possibility - however, the more I looked into it - and I've laid all this out in my article - they just don't work - as there are too many other variables involved.
Now you and I talked a couple of other times about PE, but nothing was laid out until you and I talked on the phone before the NOC. --And, at that time, I told you I wasn't using it - however, I did tell you that I had a special version of the Manitol - which was something that a friend of mine had come up with - but it ended up not working worth a nuts either. However, I thought it would work fantastic and was told that it would work fantastic - I even told you the whole basis behind it - and you went to Victor Conte and told him and he told you he could make the same thing.
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Re: Chad Nichols column/ july 2003 MD
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2003, 06:26:46 PM » Reply with quote
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The '98 NOC was the first year I worked with Ronnie - we didn't use ANY PE - Manitol - special blends - Albumin - NOTHING - we used the diuretic that I use today - except back then it was a little different version than now - a little stronger and faster, which is something that has been changed over the years. So, the only time I actually ever laid out anything for you was over the phone before the NOC and you basically told me you had Dextran and Manitol. And - I even told you over the phone that they didn't work! --But you kept insisting that you thought Nasser was using them - and I told you straight out NO BULLnuts - NOT TO USE THEM!! Seems as though you don't remember any of this? You kept insisting over the phone hypothetically - what if I would do this or that??? And I basically told you how they would work and before the conversation was over - I specifically told you I would NOT use the PE - to that you told me you were going to talk to Victor, because he could do something with the Manitol.
Now, if you want to put everything out there for everyone to read - I was NOT referring to YOU as the nutritionist - and I was not laughing behind YOUR back! I knew that Nasser had spoken to you about them - but I didn't think he had laid out amounts anything like that - I was referring to the person at the Olympia Banquet - which wasn't you - I repeat Milos, it WASN'T YOU!!! However, the person I referred to at one of the shows that had ruptured veins that looked like a drug addict - was YOU! At the NOC - and Tom Prince even tried to tell you that none of my athletes were using the PE and he said you still didn't believe him. You even came up to me after pre-judging at that show - showed me your arms complaining about them - and I told you again at that point that I thought you were crazy for using them and that NONE of my athletes were using them.
Now, as far as me trying to keep everyone confused - absolutely! It's in my best interest and in the best interest of every single one of my athletes - Ronnie, Flex, all of these guys had paid me LOTS of money to get them in shape - so why would I go around just giving everyone their information? Doesn't really make sense. And, for you to think that by saying that I would intentionally put information out there to hurt people - you are insane! I would hope that YOU would have more common sense than that. People who know me know that I just don't put ANY information out there - I just don't say anything - I keep most everything to myself. And, the truth is, it's really nobody's business. Everyone is different, everyone gets ready differently and doing differnt things and it's just no one's business what these guys are doing. There's a lot of people within the industry that need to practice the silence a little more - as too many go on and on and just run their mouths endlessly - and before you get upset and jump to conclusions AGAIN - I'm not referring to you here!
I will say, that the one ironic thing I found through this entire scenario was that YOU, Shawn and Kevin were the ones calling Wayne complaining - yet out of all of my athletes and you three- You, Milos, were the only one using them? HHHMMM?? That's a very interesting point, probably nothing I would've ever mentioned - and didn't in my article - but if we are clearing the air here - oh well. It was at the same time that Shawn called Wayne and wanted to have me arrested upon checking in to the Southgate Hotel and searched at the '98 Olympia. He swears that he didn't call Crime Stoppers, but really - what's the difference between that and him calling Wayne wanting me arrested upon check in and searched at the hotel. Same scenario to me.
So, during this whole ordeal - you were the one using the PE. End of story! I would suggest - next time, you send me a private e-mail or discuss this with me before you decide to air everything - especially something like this where you were so off base on SO many points. For some reason you must feel I have it in for you??? I told you - I don't have anything against you - so I don't know why everytime I say something or write something - you take it as a dig against you?
CHAD--
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Chad, as you believe I am off base on so many points and I made myself look like a big idiot, here is some more idioticall (but truthful) facts.
And before I start – I don’t know where you are getting that I feel you have something against me?
If I do I would be first one to tell you.
But, point number one:
I feel so much better that you and Nasser did not trick me, but someone else.
I am honored to be in group of people you don’t want to f**k with their heads and lives. I just wonder WHO is that other pour nutritionist?
Does that really matter or change your character?
You did the same horrible thing and laugh about it, only difference is (supposedly) –it wasn’t me!
However, I did spoke to Nasser, you and Tom knew about it…and crazy amounts of plasma expenders that Nasser was suggesting –was exactly 5 bags of PE, starting on Thursday and continuing on Friday –six hours apart. So, as you wrote in MD –it was indeed amount you would recommend.
Point number two: You don’t know where I got the story about Paul asking me things that I said.
Couple of weeks before 1997 Mr. Olympia he called me and told me that you encouraged him to call me and ask me what I think of plasma expenders and would I use them. I did not make up the story –it was precise time, date and conversation that took place.
Point three: It was the Caveman guest posing –exactly on April 12th 1997 when you and I talked (with our wives). I still have saved exact piece of paper with your recommendations –I have a proof I can show you – and there was no talk about albumin, but exact plasma expenders that I already quoted in previous post.
Half liter of either Macrodex, Dextran or Hespan –every 6 hours! So, get your facts straight!
That was obviously BEFORE 1997 Olympia. My conversation with you about 1998 NOC was certainly after the ’97 O, and as you were telling me that plasma expanders did not work ALONE, you told me that I had to top it off with manitol!
At that time I told you that manitol is highly available and cheap – you insisted that SPECIAL manitol that only you have should be used.
It was concentrated form in injection, and one injection coast $500. You offered to bring me to New York, but I told you that I could not afford it (sad but true) and manitlol in pharmacy is $5 –so I choose to use that one.
I also told you that I have pharmacist who could get me manitol powder, that seemed to interest you, but we left it at that. BTW, that was not Victor Conte, that was local compounding pharmacist I was friends with.
Now, if you went to all that talk about what should I use for 1998 NOC, how come you didn’t offer me special diuretic you had for Ronnie?
Possibly I would be interested in that – beats poking yourself with IV etc?
For 1998 Mr. Olympia I did tell Wayne (as he asked me) everything I knew about plasma expanders. As Wayne was talking to both Shawn and Kevin they complained about unfair advantage your guys have – I didn’t. I did send lengthy fax to Wayne explaining the whole deal with PE, and he asked me if there was a test for it. I told him that indeed it was –but it could not be urine test –instead it had to be blood test. If you remember he announced that blood test was going to take a place on Saturday (interestingly, it was stopped by Rafael Santoja’s suggestion…I don’t want to even assume anything).
At athletes meeting Flex challenged me to come foreword and I said in front of everyone –that YES, I used plasma expanders earlier that year, that I almost bleed to death, and that I have nothing to hide. Does he? He swared that he did not use ANY diuretic and that he could use lying detector test. Should we comment on that? So, as you are pointing out that I was the only one using them –I publicly admitted already. Shawn and Kevin had a problem, and I understand why.
Some people are true athletes -and they would not want to have any advantage –but instead take up on opponent that is equally informed (supplied or whatever you want to use in this instance). Your athletes had advantage of being able to use something that would get them dryer (therefore more competitive) and these two didn’t. As you said –you keep everything to yourself, you don’t give any information, and some people (me?) should practice silence. When you wanted my help (back in 1995) I told you that I know you are helping one guy I particularly didn’t want to know this information, but you insured me that if I tell you it is only going to be used for you and Kim! Obviously, you put just about every athlete that I know off on program that I gave you (or slightly modified).
And, if you really want me to reveal more of that –I can. I choose not to be silent, and shared my secrets with just about anyone that asked me. Including other trainers that trained other athletes. Charles Glass, Chris Acedo, Charles Poliquin.etc. As far as pro bodybuilders there are too many to mention. And why I did that? To help them, not to make business out of it. It is your prerogative how you want to do your business. I choose NOT to be silent or secretive.
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...and yet you still only placed marginally higher than Jocellyn Pelletier...
Well i have a reason for that, i could only look at the pictures because i cannot READ or WRITE!! ;D
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Anybody who believes a word Nasser says is a complete moron LOL. nasser has been known in the industry for years as a complete jackass who makes up lies after lies.
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Chad Nicholls is a Internet Troll. Nasser is 1/4 kidney patients of Dr. Kidney aka Chad Nicholls
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Is Nasser still wearing glasses?
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Can someone enlighten me why people shoot themelf up with all kind of funny chemicals, oil, and crazy alien stuff.
Eat and do nothing all day long except lifting weights and chasing girls/surfing porn.
Then step on a tage in a thong with loads of diuretics and risk their lives 'competing' for the first prize of 5k usd and some admiring glances from the crowd ???
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Secondary to the actual point of this thread you can see why certain authorities were interested in these guys :)
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Eat and do nothing all day long except lifting weights and chasing girls/surfing porn.
found the answer to your question.
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Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...
Translation--"Nasser gave me his loan in the form of drugs. I know he can not publicly admit that therefore I am going to publicly pose him the question as to what form of payment he used for the loan to imply that there was no loan."
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find no honor amoungst thieves.
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Last I heard....Rick threw him out of Worlds back a few years ago when it was Golds.
Haven't heard him training there or even being allowed back.
Nass trains at the famous 24hr Fitness in Point Loma with the escalating stairs out front
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Hang on, Milos has never denied his involvement with 'sports science pharmaceuticals'. Milos has also been very candid about his relationship with the 'authorities' over the years! So what?
Milos is part of a controversial industry, and for that reason, he will always draw the glare from the 'conservative elements' within our society.
Look, Milos has many, many enemies who are hell bent on destroying his reputation and livelihood. Nasser is just another disgruntled and angered x-friend who after 12 years, is still attempting to dismantel the 'Milos empire' brick by bloody brick!
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Hopefully Nasser AND Milos will succumb to AAS/Gh/Insulin related illness soon ::)
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Nasser's viscous attack on Milos' credibility has actually turned around to 'bite him on his ass'.
Nasser was not banking on the fact that, Milos can return fire with brutal-consequence!
The upshot of this most unfortunate debacle is that, Nasser has been exposed as a liar who also takes pleasure in giving 'shoddy nutritional advice' if it has the effect of benefitting his cause.
Nasser, you are a hideous creature.
One thing is for certain; Milos has not finished with you yet!
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Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).
Milos, have you ever considering writing out some of your journals, maybe even in an O.J. Simpson "If I had..." style and selling them. I'm sure lots of people would be very interested.
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You mentioned Milos Sarcev. Here is a point I would like to make in this interview. Milos still owes me money: 2550 dollars. I loaned him money to buy anabolic steroids because at the time, in 1995, he was getting divorced from one of his numerous wives and he was out of money. So I loaned him the money so he could buy his drugs so he could compete. But he never gave me the money back (laughs).
Later he was telling people that he paid me back by providing me with steroid knowledge. First of all this is wrong: he never gave me any knowledge because he would get all his knowledge from me. He likes to be one of these guys who are always the center of attention.
He is one of the most vain bodybuilders. And he has silicone implants in his calves. And he likes to have the reputation as being the trainer of champions and everybody who he is training he is providing with drugs and then he gets a little success with his clients, before moving onto the next one.
Again he is very attention hungry and likes to promote himself and this is why he likes to give out the steroids. Because people wouldn't actually go to him to be trained if they did not get the steroid program they were promised.
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Wow...HOW NICE OF NASSER?
Well, I am somewhat NOT SURPRISED but still wouldn't expect that even low-life like him could fall this low...
But, written words are little bit LOUDER than just said...(in the court of law ;))
Now...Nasser - would you be so kind and confirm this statement...or you are just going to laugh as always and than say: "well...stupid people will believe me as they WANT to believe something like that..."
It was known fact for more than a decade that Nasser was "my first" dramatically transformed athlete who AFTER MY ASSISTANCE became TOP CONTENDER for the Mr. Olympia title.
After placing I believe 7th in 1994 - Nasser moved to San Diego...where I lived.
I welcomed him to my home - as his countryman and "brother of Iron" who lives same kind of life...and who lived in US for several years - so I could be there for him if he needs me.
Besides taking Nasser to see Joe Weider when Joe DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIM - at my own risk at MY SCHEDULED appointment with Joe - and result of his meeting was his first Weider contract which meant possibility for Nasser to stay in US...I also let him see all my "journals".
Being - SKEPTIC as he is Nasser didn't want to consider that I would show him my "true journals" accusing me in front of "one of my numerous ex wives" that I just made that journal to "trick him"...
About 10 meals a day, 365 days per year...from 1987 until 1994 (at that time)...with all the supplements + Rx + training/cardio information...
I asked him:" Are you suggesting that I wrote all this for 7 years hoping that one day someone like you could come to my house and I can play a "practical joke" and show him my "fake journals" and trick that person into doing something wrong?"
Nasser looked confused and looked at me (or through me...as you would never know if Nasser is really looking at you or somewhere else...) and pointed out that he doesn't believe I eat THAT MUCH PROTEIN (as I was averaging between 400 and 500 grams a day), that I used INSULIN (as every time he would have taken it he would get FAT)...and...that I use such a low amounts of "Rx" with such a long breaks in between....
My only question to him was: " So you really think I made all these journals all these years with THAT idea in mind - to trick someone?"
He didn't answer.
Every time however when he would come to visit - he would ask me if he can see my journals...and he would analyze them.
Than he asked me if he could take some home - so he could read all of them...and I let him do that (as I did with few more guys I train...as some could maybe confirm).
Needless to say - he came to me at the end of 2004 asking me IF I could explain him WHAT to do and he will start January 1995.
THE REST IS HISTORY.
Nasser made such incredible gains that he immediately became threat for Mr. Olympia title.
First show after my "assistance" was Houston Pro Invitational 1995 which he convincingly won (beating 2-Vince, 3-Achim, 4-John Sherman, 5-me, 6-Ronnie Coleman...).
YES I helped the athlete who was competing against me - and with my help he did manage to beat me (if that is the /LOGICAL/ question some of you would ask... ;). Also, Nasser is NOT the only one whom I helped in direct competition against myself...)
Couple of weeks later - he won Night Of Champions in even more impressive fashion.
Winning his second show in a row was actually 'softening' Nasser to the point that he actually even invited me for his "celebration dinner" in New York (first and only meal he ever treated me with)...
We did have competition - who could eat more sushi (as Nasser was counting freak - counting everything...How many diet cokes he had...how many steps he made...how many floors he have to walk in "Beacon hotel" where elevator was not working...etc)
But - anyway...
Nasser placed 3rd at 1995 Mr. Olympia and for the next 3 years WAS TOP CONTENDER making fantastic living from the sport...and YES - I HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT (Now, under this circumstances I can tell...)
At that time also - his mother would call me her son...and Nasser was (in rare moments) actually appreciative...and some people in the industry do know that he even made statement - that I gave him $100000.00 -dollar information...
Simply, I did SOMETHING considerable to help him in his efforts to be successful IFBB pro.
To "return" me a favor - Nasser told me how he used "PLASMA EXPANDERS" which he supposedly learned from Chad...and as his information was identical to instructions I got from Chad.
THAT IS EXTEND OF NASSER'S KNOWLEDGE "I got from him" as he so proudly said...
The problem is - his and Chad's information was WRONG...and as I read years later in MD Chad's article PLASMA EXPANDERS and learned that Chad and his athlete who he called jokester were laughing their as..s off (as he wrote in that article) after they realized how they managed to trick one nutritionist into believing them HOW TO USE PE...
Two guys who I helped with priceless information which really catapulted both of their careers in sign of their gratitude and appreciation told me how to pretty much - kill myself...using IV solution in certain way that could indeed be deleterious...
They were also laughing as they were hoping (as Chad stated in the article) how other bodybuilders will also listen to that "nutritionist" and try the same...
I was so pissed off that I started PLASMA EXPENDER'S DEBATE on the net...(Chad's site, mine...and getbig...)
Peter Mc Gough, Tom Prince, Chad, Shawn...and others got involved...and I am sure that debate is still somewhere on the net...
But, what is NOT said so far...when DEA investigated me - they indeed chose to subpoena Nasser and Chad...MAYBE THEIR STATEMENTS will soon to be public record?
Well, it looks like Nasser had something to say...so I would like to ask him few more questions...to MAKE THIS OFFICIAL... ;)
Maybe Nasser could remember the way he gave me his "loan"...Was it cash, check, credit card OR SOMETHING ELSE...valued at whatever amount....
Any additional details are welcome...
What's more - how come he waited 12 years to "remind" me that I owe him money?
Your post does not address the issue at hand...do you owe Nasser money?
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Can someone enlighten me why people shoot themelf up with all kind of funny chemicals, oil, and crazy alien stuff.
Eat and do nothing all day long except lifting weights and chasing girls/surfing porn.
Then step on a tage in a thong with loads of diuretics and risk their lives 'competing' for the first prize of 5k usd and some admiring glances from the crowd ???
aka "bodybuilding"
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" milos journals" ::) the blind leading the blind
eat 10 times per day
inject yourself with various drugs
ingest insane amounts of protein
train 6 days a week
basically a journal of excess: once again factor confusion, pseudo bs and obsession strikes.
what is there to know?
take huge amounts of drugs
train
eat enough food.
someone is once again trying to make bodybuilding more complicated than it is. because when people dont understand the basic premises of bodybuilding it becomes very easy to sell them useless supplements or training routines.
much easier to scam confused and ignorant people.
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Bump. Pay up Milos!
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Bump. Pay up Milos!
whats nassers interest rate?
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whats nassers interest rate?
If we equate it to the # of times Nasser got robbed out of winning the Mr. O it would be 4 to 5 percent
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If we equate it to the # of times Nasser got robbed out of winning the Mr. O it would be 4 to 5 percent
na i think its correlated to number of nasser videos. (bfto excluded)
7%
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na i think its correlated to number of nasser videos. (bfto excluded)
7%
Hopefully that will become 8% soon then :) Imagine a part 8!
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Bump. Pay up Milos!
I am ready...
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whats nassers interest rate?
Let's make it 2000%...or cool million %.
I have exact amount waiting for him when (if? ::)) he comes to collect...
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Let's make it 2000%...or cool million %.
I have exact amount waiting for him when (if? ::)) he comes to collect...
so much negativity . . . sad.
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Let's make it 2000%...or cool million %.
I have exact amount waiting for him when (if? ::)) he comes to collect...
Would you fight him if he came to the gym?
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Milos you don't seriously think you would have a chance in a fight with the 300 lb Nasser?
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Do you want to join Team Nasser? You should give us your original account handle so we can add you :)
No thanks. I actually prefer Milos as a bodybuilder than Nasser.
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Nasser broke? He's retired, financially independant, and making great investment money off of commercial real estate. Not to mention his merchandise sales.
Merchandise = soiled workout clothes ;D
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No thanks. I actually prefer Milos as a bodybuilder than Nasser.
Oh yeah I forgot, lower placings = better bodybuilder.
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Milos you don't seriously think you would have a chance in a fight with the 300 lb Nasser?
Milos knows how to fight , Nasser would have no chance that all.
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Milos knows how to fight , Nasser would have no chance that all.
What makes you think Milos knows how to fight? Or knows how to fight better than Nasser?
Nasser has a definite SIZE and STRENGTH advantage. Plus, fury would be on his side since he's the one who is owed money :)
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Oh yeah I forgot, lower placings = better bodybuilder.
Never said one was better than another, only that I prefer Milos. He has better aesthetics than Nasser.
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Never said one was better than another, only that I prefer Milos. He has better aesthetics than Nasser.
Sounds to me like your "preference" is more of a sexual nature than anything. ;D
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Milos basically owns Wanker el Nobody
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What makes you think Milos knows how to fight? Or knows how to fight better than Nasser?
Nasser has a definite SIZE and STRENGTH advantage. Plus, fury would be on his side since he's the one who is owed money :)
Milos at one time was a martial art champion and as a teen did street fights in Yugoslavia.
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Milos basically owns Wanker el Nobody
you can't squat 315?
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Milos at one time was a martial art champion and as a teen did street fights in Yugoslavia.
Yeah but Nasser is bigger and can hit harder.
Nasser's father can probably take Milos.
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Yeah but Nasser is bigger and can hit harder.
Nasser's father can probably take Milos.
Bigger thy are harder thy fall
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Sounds to me like your "preference" is more of a sexual nature than anything. ;D
Sorry. I'm not into that like those of you on the "Tag-Team Nasser" group. I am sure if you offered Nasser enough money, he'd take on all of Team Nasser. He'll even sell you the clothes and underwear he wore after you're done. ;D
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Milos would win the fight. It would seem that there would be two Milos' fighting side-by-side and tag-teaming Nasser. Having cross-eyes will result in the double vision.
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Both know at least 2 languages. Nasser has been reported as knowing 6+. I know Milos knows at least 2...could know more but I don't have that info however.
Milos- Owns his own gym
Nasser- been kicked out of many gyms
Milos- does giant sets and is detailed beyond belief
Nasser- does bent over rows that look more like shrugs, had even worse case of synthol than Milos, yet denies it.
Milos- likes to set the record straight, using very precise details.
Nasser- likes to stir the pot, make up far fetched stories, and laughs but never corrects himself.
Milos- earns his income through the gym, merchandise of gym clothing.
Nasser- sells soiled underwear, suits, and whatever else a male schmoe will buy.
Milos- can still step on stage at this moment.
Nasser- needs a full 12 week or more to prep for a show, and will still look like shit (did in his last 2-3 outings)
Milos- "only" weighs 230 or so....
Nasser- might weigh 300lbs, but he still looks like a sack of shit that fell off the shit wagon.
I think I know which person I would believe...in any aspect of BBing, life, or issue.
:D :P
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Both know at least 2 languages. Nasser has been reported as knowing 6+. I know Milos knows at least 2...could know more but I don't have that info however.
Milos- Owns his own gym
Nasser- been kicked out of many gyms
Milos- does giant sets and is detailed beyond belief
Nasser- does bent over rows that look more like shrugs, had even worse case of synthol than Milos, yet denies it.
Milos- likes to set the record straight, using very precise details.
Nasser- likes to stir the pot, make up far fetched stories, and laughs but never corrects himself.
Milos- earns his income through the gym, merchandise of gym clothing.
Nasser- sells soiled underwear, suits, and whatever else a male schmoe will buy.
Milos- can still step on stage at this moment.
Nasser- needs a full 12 week or more to prep for a show, and will still look like shit (did in his last 2-3 outings)
Milos- "only" weighs 230 or so....
Nasser- might weigh 300lbs, but he still looks like a sack of shit that fell off the shit wagon.
I think I know which person I would believe...in any aspect of BBing, life, or issue.
:D :P
did Milos ever finish second at the Olympia or win the Arnold Classic and NOC like Nasser did?
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did milos ever finish second at the Olympia or win the Arnold Classic and NOC like Nasser did?
Aside from a medal and/or a plastic trophy, what does Nasser have to show for his earnings? What does he look like today, would anybody even think he resembles his once former self? Milos does- I'm willing to say that Nasser is a shadow of what he used to be.
Milos will go head to head WITH YOU ON VIDEO showing how much he can do in the three lifts. Nasser GAVE UP in a bench contest with 225, doing little more than 12-15 reps. GAVE UP, not failed, just claims "I decided to stop as I felt it was pointless." Then why did he enter?
I doubt you're able to read between the lines here.... ::)
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Aside from a medal and/or a plastic trophy, what does Nasser have to show for his earnings? What does he look like today, would anybody even think he resembles his once former self? Milos does- I'm willing to say that Nasser is a shadow of what he used to be.
Milos will go head to head WITH YOU ON VIDEO showing how much he can do in the three lifts. Nasser GAVE UP in a bench contest with 225, doing little more than 12-15 reps. GAVE UP, not failed, just claims "I decided to stop as I felt it was pointless." Then why did he enter?
I doubt you're able to read between the lines here.... ::)
if you consider a "plastic trophy" from the second and third most prestigious pro bodybuilding shows in the world nothing special then you're an impossible person to impress, titles can never be taken from you, the man was once the second best bodybuilder in the world, Milos can't claim anything close to that, that's not a knock on Milos, he had an AWESOME physique, BTW as far as "being a shadow of his former self" are Dorian, Lee Haney, Arnold, etc. as big and ripped as they were at their best?
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And you DO fail to read between the lines....here's a rice cake champ. :)
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And you DO fail to read between the lines....here's a rice cake champ. :)
why don't you enlighten me and be a man and come out and say what you mean then?
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why don't you enlighten me and be a man and come out and say what you mean then?
Be a man? What the fuck does being a man have to do with anything because you fail to comprehend?
Why don't you enlighten me, oh owner of the worlds greatest intellect- who is unknown to the world outside of GetBig?
Read again slowly...it's not that hard to actually comprehend what I wrote.
You know what? Never mind. Forget it. It's pointless. I'm sure you will live without understanding the post in any way, shape or form. :)
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Be a man? What the fuck does being a man have to do with anything because you fail to comprehend?
Why don't you enlighten me, oh owner of the worlds greatest intellect- who is unknown to the world outside of GetBig?
Read again slowly...it's not that hard to actually comprehend what I wrote.
You know what? Never mind. Forget it. It's pointless. I'm sure you will live without understanding the post in any way, shape or form. :)
you must have nothing to say if you don't want to explain it, i'm just going to assume that you're admitting that Nasser was better than Milos due to winning the Arnold and the NOC.
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i'm just going to assume that you're admitting that Nasser was better than Milos due to winning the Arnold and the NOC.
You know what happens when you assume... :-*
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Milos would do just about anything to have Nasser's track record in contest placings. If winning pro shows were considered as "earning plastic tropheys" then why would Milos or anyone devote years of their lives towards them? Even in their retired form, Nasser makes Milos look like a fitness model more than anything.
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Milos would do just about anything to have Nasser's track record in contest placings. If winning pro shows were considered as "earning plastic tropheys" then why would Milos or anyone devote years of their lives towards them? Even in their retired form, Nasser makes Milos look like a fitness model more than anything.
Milos would do just about nothing to be in Nasser's place...but interestingly so many of you spend so much time thinking about it.
Did you ever consider focusing on yourself and see what WOULD YOU DO TO HAVE...well...I hope you know what...
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Milos would do just about nothing to be in Nasser's place...but interestingly so many of you spend so much time thinking about it.
Did you ever consider focusing on yourself and see what WOULD YOU DO TO HAVE...well...I hope you know what...
So you purposely placed lower than Nasser because you coudln't care to try to place higher right? ::)
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So you purposely placed lower than Nasser because you coudln't care to try to place higher right? ::)
Milos is 100 % dedicated to bb, and shering with others and showing that not all bb are idiots. Nasser is a soccer player.
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Such a long post by Milos, but i cant read anywhere thathe calls Nasser is a liar and that he has no debt with nasser. What he did say is that he gave nasser 1 million dollar worth knowledge, so its not so nice of nasser to ask for his money back. Hey Milos i got a tip for you, next time you ask someone for money, dont ask as a loan, if you dont have the intention to payback. Just ask if you can have some money, or steroids worth of 2250.
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So you purposely placed lower than Nasser because you coudln't care to try to place higher right? ::)
Both people dealt with the cards handed to them. For track record, Milos does not do as well as Nasser, however who would rather look like a synthol infested blob of shit, making up lies in order to stay in the limelight and have to sell your soiled underwear online to make a buck? Compare that to Milos, who owns a gym, writes magazine articles, does contest prep for many people (not just Pro IFBB'ers either), is in shape year round (to where he can step on stage at the Olympia...not just a local contest) and has possibly the hottest wife to ever grace the planet!
Placings come and go, Milos' aren't as "impressive" when compared to Nasser, but in the long run I'd much rather be where Milos is.
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Based on the interview, Nasser sounds like a sour loser. He expected contracts and money to come to him automatically. I've met Nasser once personally and took a photo of him and he just looked pissed. No sympathy points there...
Milos however, despite not as great placings in contests, seems to have developed a great business sense that Nasser just never had. Plus Milos dates/marries hot fitness chicks, while Nasser's only proof of being with a woman is a picture of him with his sister.
Had Nasser been smarter, he would've made millions. Now he seems like a bag of excuses and his targeting Milos because.. well, he wanted to be like Milos. Oh yeah.. I think Milos could kick his ass too.
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For track record, Milos does not do as well as Nasser, however who would rather look like a synthol infested blob of shit....Compare that to Milos, who owns a gym, writes magazine articles, does contest prep for many people (not just Pro IFBB'ers either), is in shape year round (to where he can step on stage at the Olympia...not just a local contest) and has possibly the hottest wife to ever grace the planet!
LOL I think I speak for the majority when I say that generally a bodybuilding fan would rather look like a bodybuilder who places better than the next one, i.e. I would rather look like Nasser over Milos! I think I have the face part sort of down, now just working on the physique ;) As for Milos "being in shape," like I said before Huge Nasser would make him look like a fitness model right now if they were to stand next to each other. And as for Milos' hot wife, Nasser has had his fair share of hot exes too! Some have been posted on old threads around here. Also remember, the Virgin Mary was not a Virgin---she fucked Nasser! Finally, he is doing well financially...just because he has moved from bodybuilding doesnt mean he's broke! Unlike most other pros he has smarts and skills outside of a gym or personal training, and is therefore making money in commercial real estate like he said in his recent interview.
TEAM NASSER
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I would rather look like Milos over Nasser!
You'd rather look like Milos? ??? I thought you were a Nasser nut hugger.
Btw, here's a pic of your golden boy from his last contest. ::)
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You'd rather look like Milos? ??? I thought you were a Nasser nut hugger.
Btw, here's a pic of your golden boy from his last contest. ::)
hahahaha, that's still better than Milos would look if he had to compete today.....besides I'm comparing their retired offseason looks against each other, in which Huge Nasser simply dwarfs Milos. If you want to start comparing competitive pics there are tons of better ones of Huge Nasser that can be pulled up!
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hahahaha, that's still better than Milos would look if he had to compete today.....
So why do you prefer to look like Milos then? ???
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So why do you prefer to look like Milos then? ???
Who says I prefer the Milos look?? Re-read what I posted.
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BigBob is after guys who are broke and smell like garlic.
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Who says I prefer the Milos look??
Errrr.... YOU do
LOL I think I speak for the majority when I say that generally a bodybuilding fan would rather look like a bodybuilder who places better than the next one, i.e. I would rather look like Milos over Nasser!
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Errrr.... YOU do
Thanks for the clarification - just realized the typo and corrected it
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Who's hank wood?
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i say Nasser needs to go down to Koloseum and clean some fucckin' timepieces down there.
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The thread title needs to be changed to DCM: Nasser says you owe him money
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For the record...Milos is a criminal so he has no room to talk!...did everyone forget about how "magically" his criminal case was dismissed?..HE SANG LIKE A BIRD!!! this guy along with Dennis James was being investigated for years and was busted red handed for selling and distributing not only anabolic steroids but other illicit drugs. The DEA was not going to spend thousands of man hours investigating his case, flying in over 90 witnesses to testify in front of a grand jury just for the hell of it!, at the end Milos STRUCK a very good deal with the feds to walk away a free man!...now you explain to me how this would happen if he is soooooooooooo innocent and by the way, I personally know of MANY times Milos traveled to Puerto Rico to conduct his steroid deals..THIS IS FACT and if Milos denies this..I can provide photos of him with his drug dealing friends.....deal or no deal?...
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...how "magically" his criminal case was dismissed?..HE SANG LIKE A BIRD!!! this guy along with Dennis James was being investigated for years and was busted red handed for selling and distributing not only anabolic steroids but other illicit drugs. The DEA was not going to spend thousands of man hours investigating his case, flying in over 90 witnesses to testify in front of a grand jury just for the hell of it!,.....deal or no deal?...
Each one of your sentences contradicts the next! How would his case be "magically dismissed" if he was caught red handed?
Then you say he was investigated for years; yet later you say the DEA was not going to spend thousands of man hours investigating the case- which is complete opposite of the prior sentence.
Ask yourself this: If Milos "sang like a bird" as you say, where is the aftereffects of this "deal" he struck? ??? ??? ???
Neither Milos or Dennis James got convicted of anything, yet you're so bent on saying that the DEA had all the proof in the world on them. If that was the case, then there would be a case pending in the court system right now.
You're wrong.
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I trained Achim Albrecht in 95 and I was around these guys..word was back then that if you wanted to know about insulin Milos was the guy to ask. And he was training Nasser ,he showed alot of guys how to get huge. I didnt witness this personally but that was what all the guys were talking about, Milos had the answers.
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I trained Achim Albrecht in 95 and I was around these guys..word was back then that if you wanted to know about insulin Milos was the guy to ask. And he was training Nasser ,he showed alot of guys how to get huge. I didnt witness this personally but that was what all the guys were talking about, Milos had the answers.
Hi DCM
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A loan is a loan,no amount of favors will pay it back unless you set it up beforehand.
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YoungBlood...are you an idiot?....like I said, he walked away a free man, in cases like Milos', he gave up bigger fish for his freedom, are you that stupid that you can't understand that?.
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Great response by Milos! So basically Milos is responsible for Nasser’s success and transformation post-94! ::)
Most of Milos’ reply is about how he discussed his training journals with Nasser, which I don’t see how is relevant to the topic of the thread and accusation that Milos borrowed $2550 from Nasser never to pay him back? Then near the end he implies that Nasser simply made it up? So basically Milos gave Nasser the secrets to move up in the ranks after 94, and then in response 12 years later Nasser for no reason blatantly makes up that Milos borrowed $2550 for him? Wonder where he got that number from. Yup, that sounds like a realistic scenario!
You’re trying to use to your advantage the fact that Nasser was above repeatedly hounding you over $2550 and instead left it in your hands, to finally get frustrated and come out 12 years later about it, by questioning why he would 12 years lol.
Why would you be debating an argument between others in which you have no relevance, no part and thus no firsthand knowledge?
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Nasser is financially independant.
WOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Milos was responsible for Nassers success....at least thats what Achim told me...who's DCM?
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Milos was responsible for Nassers success....at least thats what Achim told me...who's DCM?
Yes, and "Achim" knows all right? ::) Too bad he couldnt use Milos' knowledge to give him anything close to the same type of success as Nasser achieved!
DCM = Delusional Clown Milos. Where have you been? ;D
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Question for TEAM MILOS:
WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY? >:(
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Here is something everyone with money knows, including our resident millionaires Mindspin and Alex23:
If you have plenty of money, you don't gripe about people from 10 years ago who never paid you back, especially if it's such a tiny amount of money.
To me, that says a lot about Nasser's current financial state. Hopefully, the members of Team Nasser can all chip in and make Nasser whole again. At least that's what Jesus would do if he were running Team Nasser...
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Here is something everyone with money knows, including our resident millionaires Mindspin and Alex23:
If you have plenty of money, you don't gripe about people from 10 years ago who never paid you back, especially if it's such a tiny amount of money.
To me, that says a lot about Nasser's current financial state. Hopefully, the members of Team Nasser can all chip in and make Nasser whole again. At least that's what Jesus would do if he were running Team Nasser...
I was thinking the same thing and that is generally true about people with a lot of money. That said, maybe Nasser is a strongly principled person who felt the need to say something in this instance.
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Here is something everyone with money knows, including our resident millionaires Mindspin and Alex23:
If you have plenty of money, you don't gripe about people from 10 years ago who never paid you back, especially if it's such a tiny amount of money.
To me, that says a lot about Nasser's current financial state. Hopefully, the members of Team Nasser can all chip in and make Nasser whole again. At least that's what Jesus would do if he were running Team Nasser...
Nasser did not ASK Milos to pay him back, he just exposed him for being the type to NOT pay back his debts. Big difference. Doesnt imply at all that Nasser is short on cash.
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Here is something everyone with money knows, including our resident millionaires Mindspin and Alex23:
If you have plenty of money, you don't gripe about people from 10 years ago who never paid you back, especially if it's such a tiny amount of money.
To me, that says a lot about Nasser's current financial state. Hopefully, the members of Team Nasser can all chip in and make Nasser whole again. At least that's what Jesus would do if he were running Team Nasser...
So you think Donald Trump wouldn't rip a guy that screwed him out of few grand 10 years ago? I think he would.
I don't buy what you're selling.
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So you think Donald Trump wouldn't rip a guy that screwed him out of few grand 10 years ago? I think he would.
I don't buy what you're selling.
Funny you should bring that up. Seeing how he's such a whiny and petty blowhard, Donald Trump probably still bitches about the gumball machine that gypped him out of a half-penny when he was 5. The irony is that Donald Trump has raised the art of stiffing people to another level. At any given moment, he's being sued by a steady supply of New York's top PR and legal firms that have done work for him and haven't been paid. The Donald thinks that merely doing being able to say you've "done business" with him is payment enough.
If you're doing well, why would you bring something like that up?
You don't take shots at people unless they're doing better than you are. You don't bring up old small debts unless you need the money or you're extremely petty. Take your pick!
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We're talking about a guy that hustles his streak stained soiled UNDERWEAR over the internet and seen better days when he wore big purple socks with construction work boots, coochie cutter Daisy Dukes with suspenders over a naked torso doing dumbbell curls.
It aint that hard!
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We're talking about a guy that hustles his streak stained soiled UNDERWEAR over the internet and seen better days when he wore big purple socks with construction work boots, coochie cutter Daisy Dukes with suspenders over a naked torso doing dumbbell curls.
It aint that hard!
Show me one piece of evidence from nasser's site that underwear is sold.
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If you're doing well, why would you bring something like that up?
You don't take shots at people unless they're doing better than you are. You don't bring up old small debts unless you need the money or you're extremely petty. Take your pick!
Like I said earlier, he did not ask Milos to pay him back, but simply decided to expose DCM for his theft. He was disappointed in Milos as a friend who took his money, and even though he kept it silent for so many years eventually decided to expose him which he has ever right to do.
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Show me one piece of evidence from nasser's site that underwear is sold.
It's common knowledge that he slings his worn clothes from photoshoots which is usally camoflauge doorags, string tank tops, and Daisy Duke coochie cutter style jean-shorts. Probably big fluffy pastel colored socks with high-top work boots. Throw in some ripped up flannel sleeveless tops while we're at it.
Probably after him reading about us making fun of him he took it down from his site. I'm sure someone here has those pics saved of his 'garment slinging' days over the net.
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Guys, please...
You are entitled to calling Nasser petty, poor, etc, but first answer me this:
WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
It reminds me of my former roommate who used to get angry at me and insult me when I would ask him for the rent. lol, I couldn't give a fuck what you think of me - JUST GIVE ME MY FUCKING MONEY.
You are entitled to free speech and the freedom to form whatever opinion you want of Nasser, but firstly, WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
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Funny you should bring that up. Seeing how he's such a whiny and petty blowhard, Donald Trump probably still bitches about the gumball machine that gypped him out of a half-penny when he was 5. The irony is that Donald Trump has raised the art of stiffing people to another level. At any given moment, he's being sued by a steady supply of New York's top PR and legal firms that have done work for him and haven't been paid. The Donald thinks that merely doing being able to say you've "done business" with him is payment enough.
If you're doing well, why would you bring something like that up?
You don't take shots at people unless they're doing better than you are. You don't bring up old small debts unless you need the money or you're extremely petty. Take your pick!
Ed, I like your style, and you often make me laugh.
I make a good living, have a nice family, and am happy. But if I saw a guy that owed me $3K walk by me on the street I'd make it be known that I still wanted my money. I don't think that makes me petty.
You are using the "Louie Dumps" analogy from A Bronx Tale.
I do find it odd at how many people end up take shots at Misko, it's peculiar.
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People sometimes say "money doesn't buy happiness."
Fuck that! Money is SURVIVAL. You know in other countries, Milos would be killed over having this kind of debt? Money certainly causes a lot of problems with people, and in almost every case, one of the parties is the one clearly in the wrong. >:(
WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
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Guys, please...
You are entitled to calling Nasser petty, poor, etc, but first answer me this:
WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
It reminds me of my former roommate who used to get angry at me and insult me when I would ask him for the rent. lol, I couldn't give a fuck what you think of me - JUST GIVE ME MY FUCKING MONEY.
You are entitled to free speech and the freedom to form whatever opinion you want of Nasser, but firstly, WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
According to Bob, Nasser never asked for his money or demanded it to be paid back. Therefore, Milos is under no obligation to do anything.
Here's a story. Tell me what you think: My friend Josh was broke and either sleeping on my couch or crashing at his friend Dean's place. A few months later, Josh got a record deal. First check was $380,000 advance. Dean asked to "borrow" $2500. Josh said 'No'. Dean said, "YOU MUTHERFUCKER! You FUCKING OWE ME RENT for the past six months! Fuck the loan, PAY THE BACK RENT BITCH!"
Where do you stand on that?
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Ed, I like your style, and you often make me laugh.
I make a good living, have a nice family, and am happy. But if I saw a guy that owed me $3K walk by me on the street I'd make it be known that I still wanted my money. I don't think that makes me petty.
You are using the "Louie Dumps" analogy from A Bronx Tale.
I do find it odd at how many people end up take shots at Misko, it's peculiar.
I think whoever is owed MONEY should use Paul Cicero's way of handling it as narrated by Henry Hill(Ray Liotta)
" Oh, you had a fire...FK YOU PAY ME! You're having trouble paying the rent? FK YOU PAY ME! "
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According to Bob, Nasser never asked for his money or demanded it to be paid back. Therefore, Milos is under no obligation to do anything.
Here's a story. Tell me what you think: My friend Josh was broke and either sleeping on my couch or crashing at his friend Dean's place. A few months later, Josh got a record deal. First check was $380,000 advance. Dean asked to "borrow" $2500. Josh said 'No'. Dean said, "YOU MUTHERFUCKER! You FUCKING OWE ME RENT for the past six months! Fuck the loan, PAY THE BACK RENT BITCH!"
Where do you stand on that?
Before I reply to this, allow me to ask YOU a question:
WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
>:( >:( >:(
In your story, I suppose technically speaking, Josh doesn't owe Dean rent since there wasn't a predetermined arrangement. However, I think if Josh has any sense of fairness, he should pay him that money.
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I think whoever is owed MONEY should use Paul Cicero's way of handling it as narrated by Henry Hill(Ray Liotta)
" Oh, you had a fire...FK YOU PAY ME! You're having trouble paying the rent? FK YOU PAY ME! "
I agree.
"I don't know nothing about the restaurant, all I know is how to sit down and eat the meal".
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I make a good living, have a nice family, and am happy. But if I saw a guy that owed me $3K walk by me on the street I'd make it be known that I still wanted my money. I don't think that makes me petty.
WD40,
You flipped it! You just described the way a MAN handles his BUSINESS. Big difference!
A MAN sees a man who owes him money and says, "where's my money?"
A PRO BODYBUILDER sees a bodybuilder who allegedly owes him money and says, "Wanna train arms today?" and nothing else.
Then 15 years later in a public interview, they bring it up.
I'd be willing to venture a guess that Nasser has NEVER gone up to Milos and asked for "his" money.
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It's common knowledge that he slings his worn clothes from photoshoots which is usally camoflauge doorags, string tank tops, and Daisy Duke coochie cutter style jean-shorts. Probably big fluffy pastel colored socks with high-top work boots. Throw in some ripped up flannel sleeveless tops while we're at it.
Probably after him reading about us making fun of him he took it down from his site. I'm sure someone here has those pics saved of his 'garment slinging' days over the net.
I've been checking his site for years, and there has never been underwear for sale. Shirts, pants, shorts, tank tops, yes...underwear NO. There's lots of "probablies" in your reply lol, but only a few facts. I challenged you to prove that he sells underwear, and you failed miserably.
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BigSexy50 = WD40 or Rust? ???
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I've been checking his site for years, and there has never been underwear for sale. Shirts, pants, shorts, tank tops, yes...underwear NO. There's lots of "probablies" in your reply lol, but only a few facts. I challenged you to prove that he sells underwear, and you failed miserably.
..posing trunks.
It doesn't matter. TomATOES, TOMAtoes. This is a guy who sells Daisy Dukes he wore for a FLEX photoshoot to gay 'fans'.
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According to Bob, Nasser never asked for his money or demanded it to be paid back. Therefore, Milos is under no obligation to do anything.
If Milos had an ounce of morals he would have paid back Nasser years ago. It's common sense that when someone lends you money, fronts you steroids, whatever, that you pay when you can. Only low-lives with no morals don't.
As for your other story and where I stand on that, I'm not going to answer because I dont see how it's remotely analogous to Nasser and DCM's situation.
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I'd be willing to venture a guess that Nasser has NEVER gone up to Milos and asked for "his" money.
EXACTLY - Because $2550 is not much to Nasser since he's well financially. It's a principal of a friend backstabbing you that makes you expose him, not your desire for pocket change. If the money itself meant anything to Nasser surely he woudl ask for it back, instead of exposing him knowing that doing so will nullify any little chance he had of getting it back.
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..posing trunks.
It doesn't matter. TomATOES, TOMAtoes. This is a guy who sells Daisy Dukes he wore for a FLEX photoshoot to gay 'fans'.
Big difference between posing trunks and pants. If there was not a difference then haters would not have to lie that he sells posing trunks, and would just stick to "shirts and pants" when trying to make fun of Nasser. Posing trunks = Tomatos. What Nasser sells = Oranges. Totally different. You're retarted.
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If Milos had an ounce of morals he would have paid back Nasser years ago. It's common sense that when someone lends you money, fronts you steroids, whatever, that you pay when you can. Only low-lives with no morals don't.
As for your other story and where I stand on that, I'm not going to answer because I dont see how it's remotely analogous to Nasser and DCM's situation.
The analogy is this:
When someone has done you a huge favor out of the goodness of their heart to help a friend (i.e. sharing training journals, teaching about insulin, helping you land a contract, giving someone a roof over their head), do you owe them?
Because if so, then Nasser probably owes Milos far more than Milos owes Nasser.
For example: If somebody like THISISKEITH12 hooked me up with a Satellite Radio deal using his contacts without putting anything in writing, and SIRIUS paid me $50,000 a few months later, would I owe Keith anything or would a trip to the Arnold Expo be enough? ;D
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The analogy is this:
When someone has done you a huge favor out of the goodness of their heart to help a friend (i.e. sharing training journals, teaching about insulin, helping you land a contract, giving someone a roof over their head), do you owe them?
Because if so, then Nasser probably owes Milos far more than Milos owes Nasser.
For example: If somebody like THISISKEITH12 hooked me up with a Satellite Radio deal using his contacts without putting anything in writing, and SIRIUS paid me $50,000 a few months later, would I owe Keith anything or would a trip to the Arnold Expo be enough? ;D
For starters it is not even a known fact whether or not Milos really helped out Nasser or vice versa. It is just one person's word against the other.
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I've been checking his site for years, and there has never been underwear for sale. Shirts, pants, shorts, tank tops, yes...underwear NO. There's lots of "probablies" in your reply lol, but only a few facts. I challenged you to prove that he sells underwear, and you failed miserably.
;D ;D
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For starters it is not even a known fact whether or not Milos really helped out Nasser or vice versa. It is just one person's word against the other.
C'mon man, that's a cop out. Every dispute over money can come down to "one person's word against the other." Can't Milos just say the loan "never happened"?? What's a 'known fact' when there's two sides to the story, unless you're some epic guy who believes EVERYTHING one person says because they have really really huge muscles!
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;D ;D
lol, good one....have not been checking his site for underwear, but checking his site in general and occasionally buying videos, photos or t-shirts, and not noticing that "Underwear" was ever on the used clothing page.
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lol, good one....have not been checking his site for underwear, but checking his site in general and occasionally buying videos, photos or t-shirts, and not noticing that "Underwear" was ever on the used clothing page.
You are one of the funniest fuckers I've seen on this site ;D
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C'mon man, that's a cop out. Every dispute over money can come down to "one person's word against the other." Can't Milos just say the loan "never happened"?? What's a 'known fact' when there's two sides to the story, unless you're some epic guy who believes EVERYTHING one person says because they have really really huge muscles!
Milos did not deny that he borrowed from Nasser and did not pay back in cash. His reponse to the accusation was simply that he helped Nasser a lot by training him, and went on to imply that the "money" he borrowed from Nasser was in the form of drugs. In response, Nasser said that he taught Milos more than Milos taught him. So the fact that funds were borrowed and not returned is agreed upon, and who provided who knowledge is a matter of one person's word against the other.
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You are one of the funniest fuckers I've seen on this site ;D
lol, you're quite humorous yourself DF.
At least now i know I have to take more time re-reading posts before clicking "Post" ;D
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lol, you're quite humorous yourself DF.
At least now i know I have to take more time re-reading posts before clicking "Post" ;D
Meet Jesus:
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Milos did not deny that he borrowed from Nasser and did not pay back in cash. His reponse to the accusation was simply that he helped Nasser a lot by training him, and went on to imply that the "money" he borrowed from Nasser was in the form of drugs. In response, Nasser said that he taught Milos more than Milos taught him. So the fact that funds were borrowed and not returned is agreed upon, and who provided who knowledge is a matter of one person's word against the other.
My point is simple, although is seems to have eluded you:
If NASSER had any COJONES at all, he'd confront Milos directly. Talking smack to the PUBLIC about a PRIVATE matter is a BITCH move no matter how you slice it.
If you don't have the balls to say it to someone's face, don't say it.
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I've been checking his site for years, and there has never been underwear for sale. Shirts, pants, shorts, tank tops, yes...underwear NO. There's lots of "probablies" in your reply lol, but only a few facts. I challenged you to prove that he sells underwear, and you failed miserably.
Perhaps you bought them all...You like to a freshly soiled pair every two days
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My point is simple, although is seems to have eluded you:
If NASSER had any COJONES at all, he'd confront Milos directly. Talking smack to the PUBLIC about a PRIVATE matter is a BITCH move no matter how you slice it.
If you don't have the balls to say it to someone's face, don't say it.
Has nothing to do with Balls.
a) $2550 is not a significant amount of money to Nasser, so he doesnt really care to ask Milos for it back
b) Nasser was hurt at the principle of a "friend" taking from him and not paying back
A + B = a desire to expose the ex-friend without caring to actually get your money back or not. The best way to do this is not ask for Milos money or even talk to him, but to expose him.
I have a similar example in that one of my "friends" borrowed $500 from me and did not pay me back. I never once asked for it back, even though I was a bit curious as to when he will pay. The reason I never asked is because $500 does not make or break me, and my pride is more important than asking for my money back. Eventually I realized this person was not a good friend to not pay back even though he could, and to not even address the issue, so I simply cut him off and don't talk to him anymore. I also told a few other mutual friends about what happened to expose him.
Great minds think alike, so I feel it safe to say that Nasser is probably thinking along the same lines. After all, it is he who I learn from and seek guidance. :)
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Perhaps you bought them all...You like to a freshly soiled pair every two days
(http://www.weirdforsale.com/blog/images/grody-underwear-safe.jpg)
How could you even buy a single pair when they were never for sale in the first place?
And more importantly Choad why the fuck haven't you responded to this thread yet: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183834.50
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How could you even buy a single pair when they were never for sale in the first place?
And more importantly Choad why the fuck haven't you responded to this thread yet: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183834.50
i'm not falling for that shit. last time one of your gimmicks led me to am awful image..Why are you so mad Broadstreetbruiser, is it cause i posted your picture all over the place?
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My point is simple, although is seems to have eluded you:
If NASSER had any COJONES at all, he'd confront Milos directly. Talking smack to the PUBLIC about a PRIVATE matter is a BITCH move no matter how you slice it.
If you don't have the balls to say it to someone's face, don't say it.
Yeah... well if you have any BALLS you wouldn't have let a couple of turds pour water all over you, take your microphone, spit on you, humiliate you, etc... mid interview. Ohhh man you are a joke.
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i'm not falling for that shit. last time one of your gimmicks led me to am awful image..Why are you so mad Broadstreetbruiser, is it cause i posted your picture all over the place?
hahaha you're still hung up over your retarted conspiracy theory. Instead of having everyone click back and fourth between the links, I'll sum it up here:
The choad is convinced that I'm Bluto and Broadstreetbruiser (not sure why?)
I have tons of pictures of myself posted every hwere.
I previously uploaded pics of my two degrees that even had my real name on it. Later I removed them because I realized it's not a good idea to reveal your legal name.
I exchanged some posts with Dragonsfist here, in which Dragonfist told me that he recognizes me from the city we live in (Edmonton, Canada). Dragonfist showed a picture of him and Nasser from 7 years ago, and I recalled and quoted what Nasser said to him when they took the pic, which he remembered and concurred. Yet Choad still thinks i'm some white guy from Philly?
Some users here like David Paul remember me from years ago on Mayhem too.
All this but "choad" still thinks I'm a gimmick. Definitely the dumbest person I've come across here.
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Yeah... well if you have any BALLS you wouldn't have let a couple of turds pour water all over you, take your microphone, spit on you, humiliate you, etc... mid interview. Ohhh man you are a joke.
Special Ed`s balls are fragile as a sparrow`s eggs.
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Special Ed`The Choad's balls brain is the size of are fragile as a sparrow`s eggs.
Fixed
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Who the fuck is dragonfist? dragonfist has zero creditability here getbig.. he's probally another one of "man mountain's" a.k.a BSB's gimmick accounts
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Who the fuck is dragonfist? dragonfist has zero creditability here getbig.. he's probally another one of "man mountain's" a.k.a BSB's gimmick accounts
He also had lots of pictures up, and I think she signed up here a long time ago. But wait let me guess he's also another gimmick that I started years ago and collected pictures of a randomer to assign to him. Note that lots of the pics of himself he posted are with other pro bb'ers too.
How about I ask you this, what reason do you have to think that I'm BSB? I've given you tons of reasons to explain why I'm not.
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He also had lots of pictures up, and I think she signed up here a long time ago. But wait let me guess he's also another gimmick that I started years ago and collected pictures of a randomer to assign to him. Note that lots of the pics of himself he posted are with other pro bb'ers too.
How about I ask you this, what reason do you have to think that I'm BSB? I've given you tons of reasons to explain why I'm not.
Haha, are more people finding out that this fat ass is Bluto, broadstreetbruiser, bigbobs
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Haha, are more people finding out that this fat ass is Bluto, broadstreetbruiser, bigbobs
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hahaha, seriously, can a mod let retard Choad know that my ip is nothing like Bluto or BSB's?
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you're still hung up over your retarted ...
You know, the link you provided to "the choad" you gave him shit about spelling evidence as evidance.
Yet you spelled retarded as retarted.
Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house, retard. ;D
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You know, the link you provided to "the choad" you gave him shit about spelling evidence as evidance.
Yet you spelled retarded as retarted.
Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house, retard. ;D
hahaha if I nitpick each of the choad's messages I can find more, I already skipped over a few without mentioning them. The evidence one I mentioned specifically since it was funny that it was in the thread title itself.
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hahaha if I nitpick each of the choad's messages I can find more, I already skipped over a few without mentioning them. The evidence one I mentioned specifically since it was funny that it was in the thread title itself.
HAHA owned
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Bigbobs real picture
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You guys can talk as much shit as you want about Nasser, but first GIVE HIM BACK HIS FUCKING MONEY. >:(
Nasser doesn't give a fuck about the negative comments on here, but WHERE THE FUCK IS HIS MONEY? >:(
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Re: Your supplement line.
« Sent to: Milos_Sarcev on: Today at 08:55:11 PM »
Hi Milos,
I just wanted to say that my friend thinks your supplement line is excellent and will be writing a full review of your products for my website www.bodybuildingpro.com shortly. It was nice to see you again at the Mr. Olympia this year and will more than likely bump into you at another bodybuilding expo in the future. Hope all is well for you. :)
PS - WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
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- Matt
www.bodybuildingpro.com
TEAM NASSER
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Re: Your supplement line.
« Sent to: Milos_Sarcev on: Today at 08:55:11 PM »
Hi Milos,
I just wanted to say that my friend thinks your supplement line is excellent and will be writing a full review of your products for my website www.bodybuildingpro.com shortly. It was nice to see you again at the Mr. Olympia this year and will more than likely bump into you at another bodybuilding expo in the future. Hope all is well for you. :)
PS - WHERE THE FUCK IS NASSER'S MONEY?
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- Matt
www.bodybuildingpro.com
TEAM NASSER
hahahaha did you really send that to DCM? Wicked!
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;D ;D
Apparently "he" is looking forward to be "in stock".
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How could you even buy a single pair when they were never for sale in the first place?
And more importantly Choad why the fuck haven't you responded to this thread yet: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183834.50
Not on sale to the general public, only to diehard Nasser nuthuggers
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BigSexy50 = WD40 or Rust? ???
I would say rust definetly!
I think Huge Nasser should confront Mishko. But Ed probably nailed when saying that Misko hooked Huge Nasser up with knowledge first.
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I would say rust definetly!
I think Huge Nasser should confront Mishko. But Ed probably nailed when saying that Misko hooked Huge Nasser up with knowledge first.
Nasser does not really care about the money itself since it's not material to him, hence he has not confronted DCM. It has nothing to do with knowledge because we all know DCM learned more from Huge Nasser and Chad than vice versa. Huge Nasser knew that by mentioning the money issue in an interview he will not increase his chances of getting it back - he simply did it to expose the low-life DCM.
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Nasser does not really care about the money itself since it's not material to him, hence he has not confronted DCM. It has nothing to do with knowledge because we all know DCM learned more from Huge Nasser and Chad than vice versa. Huge Nasser knew that by mentioning the money issue in an interview he will not increase his chances of getting it back - he simply did it to expose the low-life DCM.
Hi bigbobs,
Does Nasser know you care so much about his money? Have you ever talked to Nasser in real life? Does Nasser care as much about your money as you do his?
Just curious.
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Hi bigbobs,
Does Nasser know you care so much about his money? yes, probably, he does read the threads here after all. Have you ever talked to Nasser in real life? Yes. Does Nasser care as much about your money as you do his? Probably, he is quite considerate towards his fans.
Just curious.
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I have a similar example in that one of my "friends" borrowed $500 from me and did not pay me back. I never once asked for it back, even though I was a bit curious as to when he will pay. The reason I never asked is because $500 does not make or break me...
Unfortunately, it would break Nasser. I don't think his used clothing and video sales are doing as well as he'd like. He'll soon be living off German social security.
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I would say rust definetly!
I think Huge Nasser should confront Mishko. But Ed probably nailed when saying that Misko hooked Huge Nasser up with knowledge first.
He knows where to find me...doesn't he?
As far as WHO HAD a knowledge first - is very easy to figure out...
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Nasser does not really care about the money itself since it's not material to him, hence he has not confronted DCM. It has nothing to do with knowledge because we all know DCM learned more from Huge Nasser and Chad than vice versa. Huge Nasser knew that by mentioning the money issue in an interview he will not increase his chances of getting it back - he simply did it to expose the low-life DCM.
"You all know" who learned from whom...?
How about organizing "presidential debate" between 3 of us?
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I believe it would me more appropriate for Nasser to call Milos and just say Thank u . ;)
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Milos never paid him >:(