so pretty much at the end of the cycle ???
maybe one more and then come off
You opened Pandora's box there is NO coming off ;Dbut un$ung said coming off isnt too bad and is good for the organs
put up wk 1 pic and new one to see,,,i'm looking to find it
You 'think'? You should have a plan first, before you start with something like this.well yeah, i'm expecting my nolva in the mail
i'm looking to find itsplitting hairs there ,,arms slightly bigger,,,abs are lean both,,u use same pic all the time,,side chest,arm tri,side arm or something else ,,its too late now u showed same pic mmuscular,,u look good tho,,
had a 2 week pic, not really a before pic
made this comparison after 8 weeks
guess i am pretty much the same now, i have a post workout pump in these pics anyway
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=461795.0;attach=513314;image)
well yeah, i'm expecting my nolva in the mail
and i still have three vials of test incase i need to stay on longer for the nolva to arrive
the more you read about it the more it seems all these "plans" are bro science anyway
nobody knows what the fuck they are doing
And so are diet & workout schedules, so it's important to do your homework by investigating things. In general you have 3 strategies:yeah so pretty sure i'm gonna have my last shot next week
-Injecting every week/day the same dose.
-Injecting for x weeks, followed by a PCT period, followed by an off period.
-Blast & cruise.
All have pros & cons. Investigate them, choose one of them and buy all supplies before you start.
does your girl notice and/or comment on the change to your physique?
splitting hairs there ,,arms slightly bigger,,,abs are lean both,,u use same pic all the time,,side chest,arm tri,side arm or something else ,,its too late now u showed same pic mmuscular,,u look good tho,,He looks the same , the only difference is that he's closer to the camera in the 2nd pic.
does your girl notice and/or comment on the change to your physique?nope
How much does that cost and aren't you kind of in a financial bind?about 4 euro per ml basically after all calculations, so 4 euro per week
nope
doesnt notice a thing
she thinks ronnie coleman has a great physique
Don't come off and stop starving your body or you won't grow, you should have put on nearly a stone of muscle first time.i increased pretty much 8 kg in bw
what's she think of David Beckham?a handsome rich guy i guess
so pretty much at the end of the cycle ???
maybe one more and then come off
"I can quit anytime I want man.....really I can......one more hit, just one more hit and it's done!"haha
"I can quit anytime I want man.....really I can......one more hit, just one more hit and it's done!"
what about other strength increases?military press went from 5x60kg to 15x60kg, it was quite spectacular since no matter what i used to do naturally, my military would never really increase more than a few kilos (temporary even)
military press went from 5x60kg to 15x60kg, it was quite spectacular since no matter what i used to do naturally, my military would never really increase more than a few kilos (temporary even)how heavy are you?
how heavy are you?now about 91-92kg
now about 91-92kg
10 weeks ago about 83-84kg
now about 91-92kg
10 weeks ago about 83-84kg
and how tall are you?i'm not sure but should be 180cm i think
Good gains for a test only cyclei didnt really eat much (as in 6 meals a day lol no) but i tried to make sure i ate enough quality food
if you are serious and think hrt is a run, your mistaken, anyone who has zero genetic potential and who wants to do it without any effort at all will be taking about 10 injections a week minimum, of 14 different agents, your on a hrt dose, dont call it a run, your following a protocol of a beginners guide to a term called a cycle, the term cycle just means you have to follow a protocol and dont know what the hell your doing.
if you are serious and think hrt is a run, your mistaken, anyone doing a real run will be taking about 10 injections a week minimum, of 14 different agents, your on a hrt dose, dont call it a run, your following a protocol of a beginners guide to a term called a cycle, the term cycle just means you have to follow a protocol and dont know what the hell your doing.
if you are serious and think hrt is a run, your mistaken, anyone doing a real run will be taking about 10 injections a week minimum, of 14 different agents, your on a hrt dose, dont call it a run, your following a protocol of a beginners guide to a term called a cycle, the term cycle just means you have to follow a protocol and dont know what the hell your doing.
Holy shit dude you're still alive :o
Staying alive at 300 lbs and 50%bf is quite impressive!(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=470450.0;attach=514109;image)
i'm looking to find it
had a 2 week pic, not really a before pic
made this comparison after 8 weeks
guess i am pretty much the same now, i have a post workout pump in these pics anyway
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=461795.0;attach=513314;image)
Look bloofier now & abs starting to blur. What's the point ???i find the inch on my arms and strength increase quite spectacular
Could have achieved exactly the same thing by eating more Kfc.
delts little thicker veins more pronounced. really, you need more than 300mg weekly to do anything with your physique. try 500 test, and 450 deca or 500 test 350 trenbolone that will have you looking a lot better and its not too expensive.i cant use tren or deca because i'm fighting hairloss
solid physique though for such a low dose.
i cant use tren or deca because i'm fighting hairloss
tren bypasses finasteride
deca has a bad reaction to finasteride
seems like test is my only option
i cant use tren or deca because i'm fighting hairloss
tren bypasses finasteride
deca has a bad reaction to finasteride
seems like test is my only option
He looks the same , the only difference is that he's closer to the camera in the 2nd pic.This ^. But more damage to liver and kidneys.
Bigger overall
More noticeable on the arms and shoulders
You need to stay on GEAR
anabolichalo, how did you like the cycle? Notice anything drastic?my pressing strength is just going up at an obscene rate without even doing anything special (note this is in the perception of someone who trained naturalol for over 10 years with dedication and severe delusions)
did your libido increase a lot?Freaknik will always increase the libido at least once a year Earl.
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did your libido increase a lot?no it's pretty shit
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In case you really do, stop the fight and accept the losswhy go down without a fight?
why go down without a fight?
i would do so if i had a decent shaped cranium
but somehow i have a fracture probably from birth who knows that causes indentation
saw a guy in the gym who has something similar
took me a few months to realize it so i guess most people arent even aware of it (about this guy)
but still
once i noticed it i cant look past it anymore
fucked up
when you can stabilize it with finasteride before it gets drastic you can have a transplant to fix the hairline
and obviously stay on finasteride forever
shit sucks
:(
cut yout losses bro. shave it all off. youll have to one day. no fighting naturea lot of juicers with hairloss have been holding it off for over a decade with finasteride
when you can stabilize it with finasteride before it gets drastic you can have a transplant to fix the hairline
and obviously stay on finasteride forever
shit sucks
:(
Is the fina even taxing on your libido given the fact that you're on 300mg test? BTW, how much fina day/week?pretty sure it works with the dht thing
What about your balls?not sure
shrinkage? or kept normal size?
NO HOMO.
not sure
pretty sure it works with the dht thing
because my libido is pretty shit now
i can still function sexually tho
but not optimally
no bj required before fucking but sort of sloppy erection
maybe because that huge bloated pregnant stomach is not arousing either
who knows
pregnancy made her pussy turn into a horse pussy somehow
2.5mg finasteride per day
should be plenty for 300mg test per week
when you can stabilize it with finasteride before it gets drastic you can have a transplant to fix the hairline
and obviously stay on finasteride forever
shit sucks
:(
You might give 'saw palmetto extract' a try. It has possible sides as well, but not on your libido.very bad reputation on "hardcore hairloss forums" lol
http://www.ehow.com/how_2119622_use-saw-palmetto-treat-hair.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_palmetto_extract
The finastride eventually stops working though doesn't it? After 10-15 years?correct, but going bald at 40 is better than at 25
correct, but going bald at 40 is better than at 25
Would you say you had full-blown hairloss or just some recession at the temples due to a 'maturing' hairline?full blown i'd say
I have done 10cc per weekholy shet
cswol has done 30cc per week
this was back in 2000
You might give 'saw palmetto extract' a try. It has possible sides as well, but not on your libido.
http://www.ehow.com/how_2119622_use-saw-palmetto-treat-hair.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_palmetto_extract
Anecdotally, I've heard it's not free of libido sides.of course
Anecdotally, I've heard it's not free of libido sides.
So there aren't better alternatives? That sucks, since I love my hair and my libido as well
So there aren't better alternatives? That sucks, since I love my hair and my libido as wellthe libido thing is manageable
the libido thing is manageable
before roids i used 1.25mg finasteride perday no issues after some months (at first significant reduced libido)
i guess the adex could also contribute now
have you considered going to a doctori wanted to go to fibo to ask dave palumbo (serious)
he maybe able to give you better advice
than a bunch of anonymous internet trolls
who ultimately want you to fail so that they can laugh at your misfortune
There some good topical anti hair loss products. I've had really good results with a 5% minoxidil azelaic acid mix.We probably need to check with Falcon on this. Last I saw him he still had hair could be from eating leaves off a cherry tree.
We probably need to check with Falcon on this. Last I saw him he still had hair could be from eating leaves off a cherry tree.
i wanted to go to fibo to ask dave palumbo (serious)
shame :-\
So there aren't better alternatives? That sucks, since I love my hair and my libido as well
There some good topical anti hair loss products. I've had really good results with a 5% minoxidil azelaic acid mix.
I've heard about minoxidil on hair loss forum. You took them oral or by a creme?theoretically it speeds up hair growth, but does not addressthe hairloss process
I've heard about minoxidil on hair loss forum. You took them oral or by a creme?
theoretically it speeds up hair growth, but does not addressthe hairloss process
sounds confusing but is true. basically speeds up hairgrowth by elongating growth phase per hair cycle
but does not stop dht from minituarizing the follicle
so basically you will grow you hair faster and it may look fuller
but you are still losing hair as if not taking it
used it for 2 years religiously and can confirm this is exactly what it does.
worthless
EPIC THREAD
very good to show noobs what u get form 300mgs which is 5 times ur natural levels.....very good.......
i personnaly would not go on steroids if i were you
u had good physique before starting I ouwld just naintain/ get leaner/thicker////
that's it....
why bother with injects and shtii no worth the trouble
good physique
legs good?
hmm...the exact mechanism of minoxidil is not fully understood by science
From my reading I thought it actually dilated hair follicles and actually made them stronger.
EPIC THREADreasons to go on roids are not rational in my case as in many
very good to show noobs what u get form 300mgs which is 5 times ur natural levels.....very good.......
i personnaly would not go on steroids if i were you
u had good physique before starting I ouwld just naintain/ get leaner/thicker////
that's it....
why bother with injects and shtii no worth the trouble
good physique
legs good?
On a side note A'halo, it seems you know more about hairloss products than PEDs ;Dno kidding
no kidding
i researched obsessively since july 2010 how not to go bald after being brutally awared by a fat chick at work :-X
And as a 'thank you', you suggested her a bottle of clen?no i was perplexed
the exact mechanism of minoxidil is not fully understood by science
it is however a fact that minoxidil does nothing against DHT shrinking the follicle
There's some topicals like azelaic acid and spironolactone that "should" take care of the dht. Most people use the 2% minox and don't notice any results...if fact I didn't until I used the 5% mix I mentioned.I would just start drinking and smoking cigarettes man. No cure for hair loss yet except a hat.
I would just start drinking and smoking cigarettes man. No cure for hair loss yet except a hat.you can dramatically reduce it by using 5ar inhibitor
fact is the only way to go about it is affect dht
and by doing so you risk the sides of finasteride
so why not take finasteride
I would just start drinking and smoking cigarettes man. No cure for hair loss yet except a hat.
Oh I'd take all three...finasteride, minox and nizoral.yeah but i say fuck it to minoxidil
I'm just saying there's some good topicals.
Is this the same advice you gave to dj181?
yeah but i say fuck it to minoxidil
a messy expensive product all for some illusion (more hair in growth phase at same time making it LOOK like you have more hair, while you actually dont) ::)
Oh I'd take all three...finasteride, minox and nizoral.Yes dj just wears a hat. Now serious if you can do a headstand or just hng the head off the bed which it brings the blood flow in reverse direction see standing and walking all day and gravity pulls away the blood flow to the hair scalp area.
I'm just saying there's some good topicals.
Is this the same advice you gave to dj181?
Oh I'd take all three...finasteride, minox and nizoral.
I'm just saying there's some good topicals.
Is this the same advice you gave to dj181?
stop the drinking and smoking but still wearing the cap, and from time to time i wear a bandana (red or blue)
stop the drinking and smoking but still wearing the cap, and from time to time i wear a bandana (red or blue)
I would stop juicing immediately if I started to lose my hair. My hair is far more valuable to me. The people telling you to cut their losses are already bald and in denial they look worse than when they had hair.
Have you tried the handstands to increase blood flow to the scalp ?
Nooooooo.... :-X
only thing i'm undecided on is nizoral shampoo
considered adding it
but not sure
btw, how's your diet going?
Have you tried the handstands to increase blood flow to the scalp ?Yes handstands work or just hanging your head off the bed, as said I have hair so only what I have researched and done over the years.. I studied yoga for a few years sounds gay but alot of movements that revolved around blood flow to key areas, B-complex vitamins help too I got this girl on B-complex once she said how do I get my hair to quit growing because I told her to take B-complex. I said quit the B-complex.
only at the rock clubs, trying to pull off the axle rose look i suppose
and from time to time i'll do the bandana under the cap ala eminem
and btw, i met some pretty cool dutch dudes over the week-end and one of them was rocking a pink tee ;D
I was in the bathroom all day having something come out of my ass or mouth yesterday. Stomach still hurting today and haven't ate a thing. So in other words....it's going great ;DLOL have had that before. So I went and got Supreme Burrito at Taco Bell took care of it.
I was in the bathroom all day having something come out of my ass or mouth yesterday. Stomach still hurting today and haven't ate a thing. So in other words....it's going great ;D
Staying alive at 300 lbs and 50%bf is quite impressive!(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=470450.0;attach=514109;image)
I would stop juicing immediately if I started to lose my hair. My hair is far more valuable to me. The people telling you to cut their losses are already bald and in denial they look worse than when they had hair.
so pretty much at the end of the cycle ???Wait a sec,... your eleventh shot in eleven weeks ???
maybe one more and then come off
so is 300 mg of test basically a waste of time?no far from it, it is light but will still produce way greater gains then being natural.
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no far from it, it is light but will still produce way greater gains then being natural.
i always heard 500mg was best but it seems a lot of guys are doing half that nowadaysDepends on how long, 500 is good for a cycle, half of that is good for year round.
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You opened Pandora's box there is NO coming off ;D
thats sensible, no newcomer needs more than 1 shot weekly,really.Ya I agree, a first time out guy can greatly benefit off of 300-500 mg to begin with, why fuck up your receptors right off the bat, it's stupid to mega dose until your a veteran and been juicing for years and years (at least 5-6), actually I take that back it is still stupid then ;D
not forever, but it takes a while to max out on that.
anyone who says its a waste, well, lol, lets see their pics.
i can agree with this.
:D
I have done 10cc per week
cswol has done 30cc per week
this was back in 2000
i remember asking getbig years ago what to do to increase my military, as it wouldnt go up no matter whatThe pics in your first post show a significant difference in shoulder size, good job.
they said "honestly, drugs"
so accurate lol
without even trying strength going up, while focusing on quality high reps
yeah even the 250mg shot weekly is somewhat stupid, but theres no other ways.
do you believe in receptor downregulation?
Bro of course, how can it not be, nothing in the Human body is void of this, NOTHING. You drink 1 beer when your 13 years old and you get a buzz then 2, 3, 4, 5, etc for some a 24 is necessary.
Perks, same thing I puke off of 1, 5mg perk cause I have only used once or twice in my entire life and some people I know can take 50 in a day, it is all about tolerence and it is all about what is necessary at certain stages.
Now for anyone doing 500mg or less it does not work this way cause 500mg is not enough for your body to down regulate, it takes a certain amount for your body to go into defensive mode, so it is safe to use 500 or less for ever, but once your body starts seeing 1000mg and 2000mg it down regulates,
fucken right it does, however your muscles have grown to knew limits and now you can build this size anytime you want cause your body has already been there but to go into knew territory you would need more
im doin my second shot of enanthate saturday morning, im not sure i can wait though n might just do it this morning. the anticipation is really driving me nuts. its like i open my drawer n i see the amps sitting there, next to my bottle of xanax, my bottle of percs, my bottle of oxys n my bottle of hcg, thats the draw of temptatationfor me it's oposite, i nearly forgot about it a few times
for me it's oposite, i nearly forgot about it a few times
i guess since i just started again im kinda excited over it, my sex drive is slowly comong back n i feel alittle better in the mornings now. i know it usually takes about 3 weeks for me to really feel the kick from the test though but i even feel better training knowing its in my system. im only doin a shot every 12 days or so and in between im using the testosterone gel by lilly every morning also, i know its not much but its better than having my tests levels totally shot like they where 2 weeks ago
I am shooting 200 mg every 14 days. It's not much, but it is what my doctor will allow me to use right now. For some reason, when I used the gel, it made my nipples really sensitive....and no, that was not where I applied it.lol...
I am shooting 200 mg every 14 days. It's not much, but it is what my doctor will allow me to use right now. For some reason, when I used the gel, it made my nipples really sensitive....and no, that was not where I applied it.
a word of advice, put up some money upfront to a gyno surgeon.