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Title: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: hifrommike on October 08, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
I just caught it on the new DVD.  He appears as a new "bad guy" mutant named Juggernaut.  How big is this guy anyway?  He looked to be over 300 pounds of solid muscle.  I have never seen forearms this big on anyone.  However, it could just be the intense closeups in widescreen.  I couldn't locate any info on his prep for this film, but did find out that he's signed for the 4th & 5th film in the series if they happen.  What's more likely is that he'll appear in the WOLVERINE film, which in effect will be the 4th of the series. 
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 02:47:56 PM
I just caught it on the new DVD.  He appears as a new "bad guy" mutant named Juggernaut.  How big is this guy anyway?  He looked to be over 300 pounds of solid muscle.  I have never seen forearms this big on anyone.  However, it could just be the intense closeups in widescreen.  I couldn't locate any info on his prep for this film, but did find out that he's signed for the 4th & 5th film in the series if they happen.  What's more likely is that he'll appear in the WOLVERINE film, which in effect will be the 4th of the series. 

he's wearing a prop of fake muslces.....

monster prep
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Saxon on October 08, 2006, 02:48:44 PM
The guy used to be a professional soccer player in England, and has never been "big".  A very hard player, would have kicked you before looking at you.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 08, 2006, 02:49:36 PM
they're bringing that guy back? He was lame, all he did was put his head down and run through shit.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: dr.chimps on October 08, 2006, 02:49:55 PM
he's wearing a prop of fake muslces.....

monster prep
Yup, he used to be a soccer player, which by Getbig's rating standards is one step up from 'swimmer.'
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on October 08, 2006, 02:50:07 PM
I just caught it on the new DVD.  He appears as a new "bad guy" mutant named Juggernaut.  How big is this guy anyway?  He looked to be over 300 pounds of solid muscle.  I have never seen forearms this big on anyone.  However, it could just be the intense closeups in widescreen.  I couldn't locate any info on his prep for this film, but did find out that he's signed for the 4th & 5th film in the series if they happen.  What's more likely is that he'll appear in the WOLVERINE film, which in effect will be the 4th of the series. 

Vinnie Jones was a feared soccer player for his attitude and ruthlessness, he turned moviestar (and not unsuccesfull) after his soccer-career was over. Well-known for his role In Lock-stock but he's played in well over 30 movies (check IMDB.com).
In real life he's very normal looking, his film character in X-man has been digitally enhanced.

Edit...too late...
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: irish_strenght on October 08, 2006, 02:50:47 PM
yea it was a fake suit hes a scumbag he headbutted an old man in ireland for nothing real tough guy he was only tough in soccer cause their all wimps anyway
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 08, 2006, 02:53:10 PM
they're bringing that guy back? He was lame, all he did was put his head down and run through shit.
Lame? Obviously you've never been on the receiving end of the full power of the Gem of Cytorrak! ;D
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 08, 2006, 02:55:50 PM
Lame? Obviously you've never been on the receiving end of the full power of the Gem of Cytorrak! ;D
...and those in the know, know that  the juggernaut(cain marko),is cyclop's brother!
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 08, 2006, 03:00:47 PM
...and those in the know, know that  the juggernaut(cain marko),is cyclop's brother!
Pshaw! And you are obviously not one of them! Cain Marko is Professor Xavier's half brother, who was turned into Juggernaut when he found the Gem of Cytorrak while exploring some ancient ruins. Havok (Alex Summers) is Cyclops' brother, and their father was the Captain of the Starjammers. Xavier also had a spiritual evil twin sister that he killed in the womb and who later came back, but that's a whole other story. And this is all primary Marvel universe canon, mind you, not Ultimate Universe. Juggernaut is just a mutant in the Ultimate Marvel universe.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Fury on October 08, 2006, 03:01:44 PM
they're bringing that guy back? He was lame, all he did was put his head down and run through shit.

You obviously don't know shit about X-Men if you're bitching about The Invincible Juggernaught.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 08, 2006, 03:03:15 PM
Pshaw! And you are obviously not one of them! Cain Marko is Professor Xavier's half brother, who was turned into Juggernaut when he found the Gem of Cytorrak while exploring some ancient ruins. Havok (Alex Summers) is Cyclops' brother, and their father was the Captain of the Starjammers. Xavier also had a spiritual evil twin sister that he killed in the womb and who later came back, but that's a whole other story. And this is all primary Marvel universe canon, mind you, not Ultimate Universe. Juggernaut is just a mutant in the Ultimate Marvel universe.
my bad, i meant prox- thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 08, 2006, 03:07:54 PM
You obviously don't know shit about X-Men if you're bitching about The Invincible Juggernaught.

I saw it on opening night. I love those movies. He got outsmarted by a little girl, that was weak.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: davidpaul on October 08, 2006, 03:09:05 PM
Vinnie was a pivotal part of the "crazy gang", he is grabbing gazza's bollock's.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: torquemada on October 08, 2006, 03:12:00 PM
Pshaw! And you are obviously not one of them! Cain Marko is Professor Xavier's half brother, who was turned into Juggernaut when he found the Gem of Cytorrak while exploring some ancient ruins. Havok (Alex Summers) is Cyclops' brother, and their father was the Captain of the Starjammers. Xavier also had a spiritual evil twin sister that he killed in the womb and who later came back, but that's a whole other story. And this is all primary Marvel universe canon, mind you, not Ultimate Universe. Juggernaut is just a mutant in the Ultimate Marvel universe.

We like the comics? ;D

Yeah, it's just a stupid suit he's wearing.  He's a pretty tough SOB; he was great in Snatch.

I think it would've legit been a time to use a real bodybuilder.  Gunter w/ his big german accent in off-season size?  That's a Juggernaut!
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 08, 2006, 03:18:25 PM
We like the comics? ;D

Yeah, it's just a stupid suit he's wearing.  He's a pretty tough SOB; he was great in Snatch.

I think it would've legit been a time to use a real bodybuilder.  Gunter w/ his big german accent in off-season size?  That's a Juggernaut!
RUHL
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: torquemada on October 08, 2006, 03:21:23 PM
RUHL

Ruhl's good, too :D
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: hifrommike on October 08, 2006, 03:24:54 PM
Sorry to hear the muscles are fake.  I guess he couldn't down that much AAS in six months to get that big.  At least he looked real.  I just located his height: 7 feet tall.  So that wasn't faked. 
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 08, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
Sorry to hear the muscles are fake.  I guess he couldn't down that much AAS in six months to get that big.  At least he looked real.  I just located his height: 7 feet tall.  So that wasn't faked. 

it's a movie & they need people to act.....of course they won't hire a real bodybuilder with real muscles
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: davidpaul on October 08, 2006, 03:29:43 PM
Sorry to hear the muscles are fake.  I guess he couldn't down that much AAS in six months to get that big.  At least he looked real.  I just located his height: 7 feet tall.  So that wasn't faked. 

vinne jones isn 7 feet tall, he barely over 6 feet.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: torquemada on October 08, 2006, 03:32:17 PM
I just located his height: 7 feet tall.  So that wasn't faked. 

mike, I almost hate to tell you, but he's wearing lifts. ;D


I guess if they used a real freak like Ruhl, all he'd do is get asked about steroids...
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: nzmusclemonster on October 08, 2006, 03:33:44 PM
Vinnie Jones got sent off 3 seconds into a Soccer game for a brutal tackle. That, my friends, is a world record 8)
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 08, 2006, 03:40:29 PM
So what BBers would be good as other X-Men?
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: torquemada on October 08, 2006, 03:48:34 PM
So what BBers would be good as other X-Men?

The most common thought's always Lee Priest as Wolverine...
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Miss Demeanor on October 08, 2006, 03:56:39 PM
Pshaw! And you are obviously not one of them! Cain Marko is Professor Xavier's half brother, who was turned into Juggernaut when he found the Gem of Cytorrak while exploring some ancient ruins. Havok (Alex Summers) is Cyclops' brother, and their father was the Captain of the Starjammers. Xavier also had a spiritual evil twin sister that he killed in the womb and who later came back, but that's a whole other story. And this is all primary Marvel universe canon, mind you, not Ultimate Universe. Juggernaut is just a mutant in the Ultimate Marvel universe.

Canon :)  That's not a term bandied about here too often.  I love it! :D  (Note to self:  don't reveal anything to Getbig about my distinctly non-canon Nerys and Odo fanfics!)
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 08, 2006, 03:59:39 PM
Canon :)  That's not a term bandied about here too often.  I love it! :D  (Note to self:  don't reveal anything to Getbig about my distinctly non-canon Nerys and Odo fanfics!)
:o
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 08, 2006, 06:24:27 PM
Yes would have been a perfect opportunity to cast a bodybuilder in the Juggernaut role....and for those of you who don't know comics, all Juggernaut really does is stick his head down and run into shit.  Once he gets going, he's an unstoppable force.  Priest might have mad a good Wolverine, but you for sure need some acting chops to really be convincing in that role.  I was a little puzzled by the casting of Hugh Jackman at first (he's a song and dance man and he's way too tall to be Wolverine) but I'm guessing most Wolvie comic fans would agree he does justice to his physicality and persona.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Dorian 01 on October 08, 2006, 08:30:35 PM
It's pretty weird how the actor playing Cyclops is 5'10 (character is 6'3; 4 inch lifts on the actor) and the actor playing Wolverine is 6'2.5 (character is 5'3). With the movies lately they're just grabbing some stuff at random from the Ultimate Universe though (Ultimate wolvie is tall), like Ultimate Venom in Spider-Man 3. The scrawny kid from That 70s Show playing Venom's alter-ego super-jock Brock something.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 10:29:12 AM
and then there's the casting of Heath Ledger as the Joker in the next Batman......not sure what I think of that.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 10:37:50 AM
Lame? Obviously you've never been on the receiving end of the full power of the Gem of Cytorrak! ;D

what's that???  A comic book fan?  Juggernaut is the toughest SOB in the marvel universe...well, one of em anyway, he's a whole lot more than the movie made him out to be.  This guy has kicked the x-mens ass all by himself a number of times, same with the hulk and Thor.  He's not a mutant either, he gets his powers by the gem el_spiko talked about...the only thing that can stop him is a psionic attack, that's why he wears the helmet, it protects him from mental attacks.....

anyway, that's it...I'm done geeking out for the day.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 10:40:51 AM
Pshaw! And you are obviously not one of them! Cain Marko is Professor Xavier's half brother, who was turned into Juggernaut when he found the Gem of Cytorrak while exploring some ancient ruins. Havok (Alex Summers) is Cyclops' brother, and their father was the Captain of the Starjammers. Xavier also had a spiritual evil twin sister that he killed in the womb and who later came back, but that's a whole other story. And this is all primary Marvel universe canon, mind you, not Ultimate Universe. Juggernaut is just a mutant in the Ultimate Marvel universe.

lets not forget that cains powers aren't even fully realized.  REmember in avengers when the other Gems of Cytorrak were found and they took over the people who found them?  Those guys beat Juggy down, bad.  The Gems were supposed to fully manifest themselves within the individual by taking over thier mind etc....it only partially worked on Cain....or something like that, I haven't read that in years.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: dr.chimps on October 09, 2006, 10:47:33 AM
lets not forget that cains powers aren't even fully realized.  REmember in avengers when the other Gems of Cytorrak were found and they took over the people who found them?  Those guys beat Juggy down, bad.  The Gems were supposed to fully manifest themselves within the individual by taking over thier mind etc....it only partially worked on Cain....or something like that, I haven't read that in years.
Well, you know what he says  ;)


Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: dr.chimps on October 09, 2006, 10:48:37 AM
lets not forget that cains powers aren't even fully realized.  REmember in avengers when the other Gems of Cytorrak were found and they took over the people who found them?  Those guys beat Juggy down, bad.  The Gems were supposed to fully manifest themselves within the individual by taking over thier mind etc....it only partially worked on Cain....or something like that, I haven't read that in years.

You know what he says  ;)


Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 10:52:37 AM
Yes would have been a perfect opportunity to cast a bodybuilder in the Juggernaut role....and for those of you who don't know comics, all Juggernaut really does is stick his head down and run into shit.  Once he gets going, he's an unstoppable force.  Priest might have mad a good Wolverine, but you for sure need some acting chops to really be convincing in that role.  I was a little puzzled by the casting of Hugh Jackman at first (he's a song and dance man and he's way too tall to be Wolverine) but I'm guessing most Wolvie comic fans would agree he does justice to his physicality and persona.

I don't think Juggs has to be running to be unstoppable, he just is unstoppable, they threw the whole momentum thing in there for the movie.  He can be standing still and take a lightning bolt from Thor and laugh it off, he's beat down everyone in Marvel at one time or another.....
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 10:54:21 AM
I don't think Juggs has to be running to be unstoppable, he just is unstoppable, they threw the whole momentum thing in there for the movie.  He can be standing still and take a lightning bolt from Thor and laugh it off, he's beat down everyone in Marvel at one time or another.....

Can he beat up Superman?
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 11:02:18 AM
I don't think Juggs has to be running to be unstoppable, he just is unstoppable, they threw the whole momentum thing in there for the movie.  He can be standing still and take a lightning bolt from Thor and laugh it off, he's beat down everyone in Marvel at one time or another.....

Although I would like to see him beat a fully-enraged hulk.  If you pissed Hulk off enough, he gets into Thanos/Surfer territory.....
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 11:02:46 AM
Can he beat up Superman?

wellllllll.....if you really want me to geek out...a few years ago they did a series called JLA vs. the avengers and Superman laid the smackdown on thor pretty quickly....supes can do alot of things thor can't, heat vision, super cold breath, super speed...I think he'd give juggy a whoopin' but it'd take awhile.  Now stop it or I'm gonna have to dig out my comics collection tonight.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 11:04:41 AM
Although I would like to see him beat a fully-enraged hulk.  If you pissed Hulk off enough, he gets into Thanos/Surfer territory.....

maybe...but the juggernaut is magical so he really can't be stopped, I can see hulk blasting him across the world like onslaught did a few years ago...oh, God.  Please stop, I'm sounding to geeky for my own good.....but since I just realized he's magical....there goes my whole superman theory since he's vulnerable to magic and all......
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 11:06:15 AM
wellllllll.....if you really want me to geek out...a few years ago they did a series called JLA vs. the avengers and Superman laid the smackdown on thor pretty quickly....supes can do alot of things thor can't, heat vision, super cold breath, super speed...I think he'd give juggy a whoopin' but it'd take awhile.  Now stop it or I'm gonna have to dig out my comics collection tonight.

no one can beat up Superman without kryptonite.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 11:10:45 AM
no one can beat up Superman without kryptonite.

wrong-o.  Superman is vulnerable to magic.  Captain Marvel messed him up bad in "kingdom Come" by simply saying "SHAZAM" and moving out of the way so the magic lightning hit superman....Supes won in the end but that's just an example of his weakness to magic......a guy like Dr. Fate could give superman a run for the money and The Spectre would probably give him a whoopin' if he wanted to.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 11:21:32 AM
wrong-o.  Superman is vulnerable to magic.  Captain Marvel messed him up bad in "kingdom Come" by simply saying "SHAZAM" and moving out of the way so the magic lightning hit superman....Supes won in the end but that's just an example of his weakness to magic......a guy like Dr. Fate could give superman a run for the money and The Spectre would probably give him a whoopin' if he wanted to.


Hmmmmm maybe? I only watch the movies.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 11:25:21 AM

Hmmmmm maybe? I only watch the movies.

I don't really read them anymore but I know what goes on in the comics via the net....I've got about 6 boxes at home...I used to buy a TON of them.  Now I buy one every other month or so just for shits and giggles.  The movies are usually pretty far off from how "they're supposed to be"  the best one was Batman Begins but even that one was off in alot of spots.  The league of shadows is actually called the league of assassians and Ra's al Ghul never trained batman.....just geeky stuff like that, still a cool movie.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 11:27:31 AM
I don't really read them anymore but I know what goes on in the comics via the net....I've got about 6 boxes at home...I used to buy a TON of them.  Now I buy one every other month or so just for shits and giggles.  The movies are usually pretty far off from how "they're supposed to be"  the best one was Batman Begins but even that one was off in alot of spots.  The league of shadows is actually called the league of assassians and Ra's al Ghul never trained batman.....just geeky stuff like that, still a cool movie.

Everyone loved Batman begins, I thought it was so-so at best. The Spiderman movies have been great imo and Superman returns and all 3 X-men rocked.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 11:39:47 AM
Everyone loved Batman begins, I thought it was so-so at best. The Spiderman movies have been great imo and Superman returns and all 3 X-men rocked.

they're off in geeky ways, not too bad but they're still off.  I just saw x-men III and thought it was pretty well done.  Everyone was up to snuff as far as thier portrayal of the characters in regards to thier comics pasts.  Colossus is supposed to be russian and him and kitty pride, the chick that can go through walls have been an item for years.  Magneto is really well done.  Mysitique is Rogue's mother....Rogue is a total bad ass in the comics, she's pretty much superman level in terms of strength, she can fly and I think she has super speed.  She sucked the powers out of Carol Danvers back in the day, Danvers used to be "Ms. Marvel" and Rougue used to be evil.....long story.  Iceman was one of the original x-men along with Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey...maybe someone else, I haven't looked at those in years.  Wolverine is pretty good, too tall but good, storm, beast all well done.  I never read "the pheonix saga" so I can't say how that part was vs. the comics.....

there's geeky stuff about all of them but for someone like you it doesn't really matter it just makes me feel more like a geek when I notice that stuff....like the spiderman web shooters, they're mechanical in the comics.....
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 11:46:32 AM
they're off in geeky ways, not too bad but they're still off.  I just saw x-men III and thought it was pretty well done.  Everyone was up to snuff as far as thier portrayal of the characters in regards to thier comics pasts.  Colossus is supposed to be russian and him and kitty pride, the chick that can go through walls have been an item for years.  Magneto is really well done.  Mysitique is Rogue's mother....Rogue is a total bad ass in the comics, she's pretty much superman level in terms of strength, she can fly and I think she has super speed.  She sucked the powers out of Carol Danvers back in the day, Danvers used to be "Ms. Marvel" and Rougue used to be evil.....long story.  Iceman was one of the original x-men along with Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey...maybe someone else, I haven't looked at those in years.  Wolverine is pretty good, too tall but good, storm, beast all well done.  I never read "the pheonix saga" so I can't say how that part was vs. the comics.....

there's geeky stuff about all of them but for someone like you it doesn't really matter it just makes me feel more like a geek when I notice that stuff....like the spiderman web shooters, they're mechanical in the comics.....

I collected baseball cards when I was a kid. I literally have over 100,000 of them in storage at my moms. I think they are worth a lot of money, especially my Jordan rookies and 75 topps minis. No Honus Wagners though :-\  Nothing wrong with hobbies.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 11:53:11 AM
I collected baseball cards when I was a kid. I literally have over 100,000 of them in storage at my moms. I think they are worth a lot of money, especially my Jordan rookies and 75 topps minis. No Honus Wagners though :-\  Nothing wrong with hobbies.

my cousins had rooms full of cards when we were kids.  They gave bags of cards to my brother and he was liek "hey there's a joe montana rookie card in here...it's worth like $300.00"  and they just said, keep it, we have like 10 of em....I don't know if it was really worth 300 but that's how the story went.  I ahve a few comics that are worth a couple of hundred bucks.  I got the 1st appearance of Cable for $1.00 from this total dump of a comics store in detroit when it was worth almost 100.00.  It was such a dump the guy didn't even know what he had or what it was worth....I also had the 1st appearance of the punisher..
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: j3di3 on October 09, 2006, 11:53:59 AM
So what BBers would be good as other X-Men?

how about......... wait for it.........wait......DEX TER JACKSON AS A......NINJA TURTLE?!?!?
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 11:54:54 AM
my cousins had rooms full of cards when we were kids.  They gave bags of cards to my brother and he was liek "hey there's a joe montana rookie card in here...it's worth like $300.00"  and they just said, keep it, we have like 10 of em....I don't know if it was really worth 300 but that's how the story went.  I ahve a few comics that are worth a couple of hundred bucks.  I got the 1st appearance of Cable for $1.00 from this total dump of a comics store in detroit when it was worth almost 100.00.  It was such a dump the guy didn't even know what he had or what it was worth....I also had the 1st appearance of the punisher..

Detroit? are you from the area? I am 30 miles north.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 12:01:01 PM
Detroit? are you from the area? I am 30 miles north.

I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 12:01:38 PM
I'll PM you.
cool.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 12:29:12 PM
maybe...but the juggernaut is magical so he really can't be stopped, I can see hulk blasting him across the world like onslaught did a few years ago...oh, God.  Please stop, I'm sounding to geeky for my own good.....but since I just realized he's magical....there goes my whole superman theory since he's vulnerable to magic and all......

ok....lets say thanos with the infinity gauntlet would wipe the floor with Juggy.  I just have a problem putting him up there with the "elites."  I don't remember---did Surfer and Supes ever duke it out in any of those marvel/dc cross series?  I always thought that would be a hell of fight.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 09, 2006, 12:30:56 PM
Yes would have been a perfect opportunity to cast a bodybuilder in the Juggernaut role....and for those of you who don't know comics, all Juggernaut really does is stick his head down and run into shit.  Once he gets going, he's an unstoppable force.  Priest might have mad a good Wolverine, but you for sure need some acting chops to really be convincing in that role.  I was a little puzzled by the casting of Hugh Jackman at first (he's a song and dance man and he's way too tall to be Wolverine) but I'm guessing most Wolvie comic fans would agree he does justice to his physicality and persona.

I agree...When i first saw Hugh Jackamn as the rold of Wolverine....I was like "what the f**k?"

He's done well with the role & I feel he's got the personality down pretty good as a wolverine character.

Bob Chic could have done well in there somewhere. 
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 12:33:45 PM
who played this guy? he was big

Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 09, 2006, 12:41:09 PM
Although I would like to see him beat a fully-enraged hulk.  If you pissed Hulk off enough, he gets into Thanos/Surfer territory.....
bring out the surfer and his "power cosmic!" forget it! game over! it's done!
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 12:42:46 PM
who played this guy? he was big



They actually used Lee Priest and Gunter Schlierkamp for models for the CGI work on Hulk, molded with Eric Bana's Hulk-like face.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 12:46:27 PM
They actually used Lee Priest and Gunter Schlierkamp for models for the CGI work on Hulk, molded with Eric Bana's Hulk-like face.

really? did not know that, I was actually joking. Who would win in this fight?


Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 12:48:16 PM
I agree...When i first saw Hugh Jackamn as the rold of Wolverine....I was like "what the f**k?"

He's done well with the role & I feel he's got the personality down pretty good as a wolverine character.

Bob Chic could have done well in there somewhere. 

Chic in shape might make a good Wonder Man.....
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 09, 2006, 12:50:13 PM
how about the dude that played colossus, did you feel that was agood choice?
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Petrucci on October 09, 2006, 12:51:49 PM
I just caught it on the new DVD.  He appears as a new "bad guy" mutant named Juggernaut.  How big is this guy anyway?  He looked to be over 300 pounds of solid muscle.  I have never seen forearms this big on anyone.  However, it could just be the intense closeups in widescreen.  I couldn't locate any info on his prep for this film, but did find out that he's signed for the 4th & 5th film in the series if they happen.  What's more likely is that he'll appear in the WOLVERINE film, which in effect will be the 4th of the series. 

all drugs
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 12:54:40 PM
ok....lets say thanos with the infinity gauntlet would wipe the floor with Juggy.  I just have a problem putting him up there with the "elites."  I don't remember---did Surfer and Supes ever duke it out in any of those marvel/dc cross series?  I always thought that would be a hell of fight.

nahhhh surfer fought Kyle Rayner who just got his green lantern ring, that was the DC Vs. Marvel thing from back in 94ish...supes fought the hulk and whooped him..The infinity Gauntlet is pretty bad ass but it doesn't work in the DC universe as Darksied was the last guy to actually try to use it and it did nothing for him in JLA/Avengers number 2-which has some awsome fight scenes between the 2 companies...
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 12:56:58 PM
how about the dude that played colossus, did you feel that was agood choice?

I didn't see the 2nd one, he didn't seem to do much in the 3rd...he's supposed to be from Mother Russia so he should have a real heavy accent...I woulda liked to see him and juggy go at it...I just didn't see him do alot.  the beast was pretty well done.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 09, 2006, 12:57:25 PM
how about the dude that played colossus, did you feel that was agood choice?

No...not really.

medicore
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 12:59:59 PM
bring out the surfer and his "power cosmic!" forget it! game over! it's done!

sorry...spiderman laid the smackdown on Firelord who was a herald of galactus and had the "power cosmic"...so I can see an enraged hulk beating the surfer...not galactus though, that's pushing it a little.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 01:15:14 PM
really? did not know that, I was actually joking. Who would win in this fight?




LOL

I think that Bluntman and Chronic would take those two fools....
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: danielson on October 09, 2006, 01:17:02 PM
LOL

I think that Bluntman and Chronic would take those two fools....

badasses ;D
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: venom gang.bronze on October 09, 2006, 01:19:41 PM
sorry...spiderman laid the smackdown on Firelord who was a herald of galactus and had the "power cosmic"...so I can see an enraged hulk beating the surfer...not galactus though, that's pushing it a little.
firelord is not the surfer. the surfer has a different "fuel" that fires him. and a lot of it is that girl he left behind on that planet he was from.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 01:25:03 PM
I didn't see the 2nd one, he didn't seem to do much in the 3rd...he's supposed to be from Mother Russia so he should have a real heavy accent...I woulda liked to see him and juggy go at it...I just didn't see him do alot.  the beast was pretty well done.

Agreed.....he should really be one of the strongest in the whole movie, but he was reduced to a "teen idol" looking fool carrying around TV sets around the X-mansion.  Another disappointment would be iceman---why did it take him so long to "ice out?"  He came off like a pussy.  But I am glad that they did not screw up the absolute end-of-the-world power of the Pheonix.  Who can really touch her, in any universe?
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 09, 2006, 01:46:47 PM
Agreed.....he should really be one of the strongest in the whole movie, but he was reduced to a "teen idol" looking fool carrying around TV sets around the X-mansion.  Another disappointment would be iceman---why did it take him so long to "ice out?"  He came off like a pussy.  But I am glad that they did not screw up the absolute end-of-the-world power of the Pheonix.  Who can really touch her, in any universe?

I would have liked to seen more of Sabertooth
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: Condor on October 09, 2006, 01:52:19 PM
I would have liked to seen more of Sabertooth

Yeah, he should have had a more prominent presence in X1, instead of just being Magneto's lackey.  He was at one time an agent just like Wolverine.  He's easily as strong as Wolverine, if not stronger.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 09, 2006, 02:11:11 PM
Yeah, he should have had a more prominent presence in X1, instead of just being Magneto's lackey.  He was at one time an agent just like Wolverine.  He's easily as strong as Wolverine, if not stronger.

Supposed to have the same healing ability but more strength
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: divcom on October 09, 2006, 02:19:52 PM
Movie sucked.  The only thing that was good was Grey trying to turn Wolverine into dust.  That sh#t was awesome!  Boy's mutant powers have evolved over several movies.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 09, 2006, 02:41:50 PM
firelord is not the surfer. the surfer has a different "fuel" that fires him. and a lot of it is that girl he left behind on that planet he was from.

I don't know much about the surfer, I'm pretty much a DC guy but I do read up on some marvel stuff......I thought all the heralds were given the power cosmic and they were all pretty equal, oh welllllll...
Supposed to have the same healing ability but more strength

they used to work together along time ago, I think Creed ( sabertooth) logan (wolverine) and a dude named maverick used to be a team, maverick was introduced in the early 90's, I'm not sure what ever became of him....
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: knny187 on October 09, 2006, 03:34:56 PM
Movie sucked.  The only thing that was good was Grey trying to turn Wolverine into dust.  That sh#t was awesome!  Boy's mutant powers have evolved over several movies.


Out of the three movies....I like the the first one the best....then the second one....& the last movie is 3rd


IMO, they got worse over the production
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 11, 2006, 12:11:01 PM
Ok, first things first: Superman and Thor. Thor was able to hold his own pretty well because fo Mjolnir. Supes was certainly surprised when he got hit by that thing. Also, characters with magical powers had them enhanced in the DC universe, as magic wa much more powerful there in general. Supes would beat the hulk, and hulk and Juggernaut have gone at it a couple of times. Also, Juggernaut did the dirty deed with She-Hulk. Talk about ultimate Shmoe-dom :P Silver Surfer is powerful, but the DC universe heroes operate on a whole nother level power-wise. Very few marvel charcters even approach the power of anyone in the JLA.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: dorkeroo on October 11, 2006, 05:17:12 PM
Vinnie Jones got sent off 3 seconds into a Soccer game for a brutal tackle. That, my friends, is a world record 8)

Agreed. For some reason people are overlooking this. I think it is hilarious.
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: natural al on October 11, 2006, 06:33:22 PM
Ok, first things first: Superman and Thor. Thor was able to hold his own pretty well because fo Mjolnir. Supes was certainly surprised when he got hit by that thing. Also, characters with magical powers had them enhanced in the DC universe, as magic wa much more powerful there in general. Supes would beat the hulk, and hulk and Juggernaut have gone at it a couple of times. Also, Juggernaut did the dirty deed with She-Hulk. Talk about ultimate Shmoe-dom :P Silver Surfer is powerful, but the DC universe heroes operate on a whole nother level power-wise. Very few marvel charcters even approach the power of anyone in the JLA.

JLA/Avengers #2 has some of the coolest fight scenes ever IMO, it would have been cooler if they stretched it out a little but seeing Superman give Thor the beatdown was pretty damn cool....definetly better than the DC vs. Marvel thing from the 90's, that wasn't even close to fair, you had people vote and half the marvel guys were f'n x-men.....they were selling so many comics back then it was ludacris..Hell, I have 8 copies of x-men #1 and all the variant card editions of x-force #1. 

I didn't know about juggy doing the deed with she hulk....kinda gross if ya ask me but wht the hell, everybody needs somebody sometime.  The surfer is pretty tough, he did beat Kyle Rayner back in the old dc vs marvel series but again that was a vote thing and kyle had only been around for a couple of years at that time, it might be different if they did it now since the companies are pretty much neck and neck at this point.

el_spiko are you currently reading any comics?  I've read a few issues of teen titans, great book same with JLA and a few other dC series.  I try to keep up with marvels cival war but I've never bought one...
Title: Re: Vinnie Jones in X-MEN: THE LAST STAND
Post by: El_Spiko on October 13, 2006, 10:35:34 PM
Not reading anything at the moment but about to get back into it. I used to work at a comic books store so i read everything that came out and most of the backissues we had. I couldn't tell you what's good right now. I liked New X-men, but once Clairemont took over he went crazy and ruined the comic. JLA is usually pretty good, as is Titans and Outsiders. Marvel's Ultimate comics pretty much all rock. I heard the House of M/Civil war storylines were pretty cool but haven't read through them yet. I was also a big fan of Green Lantern. I know it's heresy, but Kyle is my favorite, I find him a much easier character to empathise with and find his stories much more compelling and interesting than Hal's.