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i personally ifbb judgin is a disgrace the criteria is
biggest and hardest wins...
no matter is your built like a frog....
symmetry means nothing ... balance even less
branch has one of the thickest torso in bbing...
yet his arms look all of 19 inches....
awful physique
imo dennis wolf was the winner or victor
nearly ever bber that competed at the arnold had a better structure than branch.
i respect branch's worth ethic.. but he shouldnt have won yesterday...
not a good day for bbing
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agree, branch doesnt need the heart attack grill to step out.
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Everytime a black man doesn't win it's the same cry "byyyaaahh, they don't award symmetry they don't award proportion" like that meant a fuck when Coleman was winning. ::)
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i personally ifbb judging n is a disgrace the criteria is
biggest and hardest wins...
no matter is your built like a frog....
symmetry means nothing ... balance even less
branch has one of the thickest torso in bbing...
yet his arms look all of 19 inches....
awful physique
imo dennis wolf was the winner or victor
nearly ever bber that competed at the arnold had a better structure than branch.
i respect branch's worth ethic.. but he shouldnt have won yesterday...
not a good day for bbing
Maybe they should start bringing a tape measure to the stage. Wolf looked good but compared to Branch he is incomplete. No lower back and no calves. You might not like the way Branches physique flows but with the exception of his arms not having the best shape, they were not out of proportion and his conditioning was unreal!
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Maybe they should start bringing a tape measure to the stage. Wolf looked good but compared to Branch he is incomplete. No lower back and no calves. You might not like the way Branches physique flows but with the exception of his arms not having the best shape, they were not out of proportion and his conditioning was unreal!
Wolf has thicker spinal erectors then any other competitor.... you mean his lats don't extend down to his waist. Doesn't mean he doesn't have a lower back. As far as calves go they don't matter. They aren't judged in a show. Common joe loco. You know this. Wolf has high calves like Ronnie. They are developed too.
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Maybe they should start bringing a tape measure to the stage. Wolf looked good but compared to Branch he is incomplete. No lower back and no calves. You might not like the way Branches physique flows but with the exception of his arms not having the best shape, they were not out of proportion and his conditioning was unreal!
branch doesnt have a lower back either. branch next to wolf is an ugly midget. he looks fucked up in every pose except side tri and abthigh.
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Everytime a black man doesn't win it's the same cry "byyyaaahh, they don't award symmetry they don't award proportion" like that meant a fuck when Coleman was winning. ::)
not at all .. i had wolf winning....
its not about black or white at all
im just saying branch phsyique is out of whack dont you think symmetry and balance should count for anything?
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Wolf has thicker spinal erectors then any other competitor.... you mean his lats don't extend down to his waist. Doesn't mean he doesn't have a lower back. As far as calves go they don't matter. They aren't judged in a show. Common joe loco. You know this. Wolf has high calves like Ronnie. They are developed too.
No, thats not what I'm talking about, I'm saying he has very little if any detail to his low back.
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(pics courtesy of ironmanjapan)
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Maybe they should start bringing a tape measure to the stage. Wolf looked good but compared to Branch he is incomplete. No lower back and no calves. You might not like the way Branches physique flows but with the exception of his arms not having the best shape, they were not out of proportion and his conditioning was unreal!
his condition was amazing yes
branch has lacking bodyparts to
his arms are SMALL for hos monster chest and back
legs way to big for his upper body...
put it this way , he has more flaws than dennis
and his physique looks 10000 better than branches....
branch has zero symmetry. second best bodybuilder in the world....
no way
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i personally ifbb judging n is a disgrace the criteria is
biggest and hardest wins...
no matter is your built like a frog....
symmetry means nothing ... balance even less
branch has one of the thickest torso in bbing...
yet his arms look all of 19 inches....
awful physique
imo dennis wolf was the winner or victor
nearly ever bber that competed at the arnold had a better structure than branch.
i respect branch's worth ethic.. but he shouldnt have won yesterday...
not a good day for bbing
Totally agree. Wolf dominated of course. Too many structural flaws though. I would ha>e probably went with >ictor. Could'>e been drier of course, but best shape and proportions o>erall. E>an is knocking on the door as well. Bst combination of size, shape, and condition, IMO. Hell, e>en Dex looked better.
This just goes to illustrate how "bodybuilding" is just a cult acti>ity, run by a bunch of schmoes. Just like any other obscure "fetish" group. Sad.
"Sport"? Hahaha...
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branch doesnt have a lower back either. branch next to wolf is an ugly midget. he looks fucked up in every pose except side tri and abthigh.
There's pic of branches lower back posted on here yesterday morning from prejudging, I can't find it but it was freaking ridiculous.
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The problem is how do you score if not on mass and condition trumping all? Becasue if you base it on balance and aesthetics here is some news for you, guys like Flex and Ray would have never have lost to Dorian or Ronnie. It just isn't such a big deal becasue Doz and Ron had good structure and shape for the most part but they won on mass and condition. If they were all the same bodyweight then flex is never losing to Coleman.
Branch is a fucking mess but then again Ronnie was a mess compared to Ray, so what are you going to do.
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Branch's arms are too short, that's why his symmetry is not perfect.
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There's pic of branches lower back posted on here yesterday morning from prejudging, I can't find it but it was freaking ridiculous.
This is the pic I was looking for but I thought it was from yesterday....it's from 2009...but regardless!
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not at all .. i had wolf winning....
its not about black or white at all
im just saying branch phsyique is out of whack dont you think symmetry and balance should count for anything?
I don't know if symmetry and balance should count for much. I'm fine if mass + conditioning decides the winner (like it most of the time has in history). I think you and some people are too harsh on Branch, he has been compared to t-rex, a bull and what else. He isn't handsome and he is gritty, but I think his physique is just fine.
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23588wtmk.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23706wtmk.JPG)
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23686wtmk.JPG)
Doesn't matter, Branch won.
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Wolf has thicker spinal erectors then any other competitor.... you mean his lats don't extend down to his waist. Doesn't mean he doesn't have a lower back. As far as calves go they don't matter. They aren't judged in a show. Common joe loco. You know this. Wolf has high calves like Ronnie. They are developed too.
This is true. And Wolf or Ronnie can't do anything about their calf>es. They're just like Branch's forearms.
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This is the pic I was looking for but I thought it was from yesterday....it's from 2009...but regardless!
Ok.... thats 2009 though not 2011. Usually when they have a bodybuilding contest they judge the appearance from the current time.
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23588wtmk.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB23706wtmk.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB25320wtmk.JPG)
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Both of their legs look fucking stupid.
Its pretty sad when their legs are so wide they cant stand normally. :-\
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In all seriousness i picked branch to win prior to the show and after prejudging. That however isn't in my opinion what should have happened. Part of my motives for judging have been molded by what typically wins. The other part is the voice in side my head which shouts what should win and Wolf SHOULD be the criteria of what should win. Evan was clearly the leanest person on stage but his presence needs work. A lot of things Evan did were amatursish such as his coloring. He also seemed to lack some confidence up there. He beat himself before he got up on that stage. As far as Victor goes, i can't stand the guy. He looked good at the ASC in 08 but i don't understand what all the hype is. Im surprised he got 4th. I don't think he will quite recover from that quad tear.
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The problem is how do you score if not on mass and condition trumping all? Becasue if you base it on balance and aesthetics here is some news for you, guys like Flex and Ray would have never have lost to Dorian or Ronnie. It just isn't such a big deal becasue Doz and Ron had good structure and shape for the most part but they won on mass and condition. If they were all the same bodyweight then flex is never losing to Coleman.
Branch is a fucking mess but then again Ronnie was a mess compared to Ray, so what are you going to do.
A lot of people would say that Flex and Shawn should ha>e ne>er lost to Doz or Ronnie. And size and condition shouldn't trump all. The best combination of ALL aspects should win. And Branch is a much bigger mess than Ronnie on his worst day...
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In all seriousness i picked branch to win prior to the show and after prejudging. That however isn't in my opinion what should have happened. Part of my motives for judging have been molded by what typically wins. The other part is the voice in side my head which shouts what should win and Wolf SHOULD be the criteria of what should win. Evan was clearly the leanest person on stage but his presence needs work. A lot of things Evan did were amatursish such as his coloring. He also seemed to lack some confidence up there. He beat himself before he got up on that stage. As far as Victor goes, i can't stand the guy. He looked good at the ASC in 08 but i don't understand what all the hype is. Im surprised he got 4th. I don't think he will quite recover from that quad tear.
yesterday was the first time victor displayed a significant gut. hes on the down hill i think
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I don't know if symmetry and balance should count for much. I'm fine if mass + conditioning decides the winner (like it most of the time has in history). I think you and some people are too harsh on Branch, he has been compared to t-rex, a bull and what else. He isn't handsome and he is gritty, but I think his physique is just fine.
i have nothing against branch i like branch .. i dont care about his face im not a woman so i couldnt know how to juge that
but .. im sorry wolf was in good condition too and his structure really makes branch looks bad... his combination of symmetry size and shape should have trumped branched size mass... branches phsyque is out of whack
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i have nothing against branch i like branch .. i dont care about his face im not a woman so i couldnt know how to juge that
but .. im sorry wolf was in good condition too and his structure really makes branch looks bad... his combination of symmetry size and shape should have trumped branched size mass... branches phsyque is out of whack
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A lot of people would say that Flex and Shawn should ha>e ne>er lost to Doz or Ronnie. And size and condition shouldn't trump all. The best combination of ALL aspects should win. And Branch is a much bigger mess than Ronnie on his worst day...
ronnie 1998 1999
was no mess.... when he got really bigger he started to look ridiculous
but was still head and shoulders above everyone else
small joints rount muscles and v taper
hard vascular and build
you can see ronnies head then neck then traps then delts etc
branch looks all built into one...
out of whack too short too much size...
and small arms
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All......(http://moneysavingqueen.com/images/2010/11/waffle-house.gif)
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i meant wolf ahould have won
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branch just looks like a guy with certain good bodyparts... ..
all drugs... not genetically blessed AT ALL... he has worked fucking hard though ill give him that
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i meant wolf ahould have won
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branch just looks like a guy with certain good bodyparts... ..
all drugs... not genetically blessed AT ALL... he has worked fucking hard though ill give him that
He was genetically gifted but the new judging criteria, too much drugs and being Joe Weider's satanic sex slave ruined his physique.
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmm.cx/cxjune2002/cxwarren/branch_warren07.jpg)
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Ok.... thats 2009 though not 2011. Usually when they have a bodybuilding contest they judge the appearance from the current time.
What part of my post did you miss little man? You're about even with tbombz on the knowledge with tbombz having a slight edge.
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Doesn't matter, Branch won.
and Obama won the election, so by your logic he's the best.
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and Obama won the election, so by your logic he's the best.
Bodybuilding is toooo subjective and Obama won on the sheer stupidity of the american public (which more than half are regretting)
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He was genetically gifted but the new judging criteria, too much drugs and being Joe Weider's satanic sex slave ruined his physique.
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmm.cx/cxjune2002/cxwarren/branch_warren07.jpg)
looked a million times better there
better arms better balance
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both of them look like shit imo. lots of muscle but it looks like crap... Wolf looked good 2007 and as amateur that's it.
they should award guys like Centopani who has a physique you wouldn't mind having.
but i guess "bodybuilding is the muscle" as kyomu puts it. no matter if you look like some thrown together frankensteinmonster.
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BBing is about muscle.
Who looked the most muscular and well developed at that night?
Branch.
Thats all.
If two guys are developed same level with no weak point,then we talk about proportion.
Branchs arms are not that weak like Wolfs hams,glutes and lower back and calves.
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ronnie 1998 1999
was no mess.... when he got really bigger he started to look ridiculous
but was still head and shoulders above everyone else
small joints rount muscles and v taper
hard vascular and build
you can see ronnies head then neck then traps then delts etc
branch looks all built into one...
out of whack too short too much size...
and small arms
220 lb Ronnie isn't beating 220 llb Ray or flex, they just have better shape and lines. Which is the point, where is the cutoff?
Mixture of all is what people say but all things being equal people would have to push the mass. It's a fucked up criteria, simple as.
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My judging criteria mass 33% ,Symmetry/proportions 33%, condition 33%
Evan Centopani wins.
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He was genetically gifted but the new judging criteria, too much drugs and being Joe Weider's satanic sex slave ruined his physique.
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmm.cx/cxjune2002/cxwarren/branch_warren07.jpg)
i always thought he looked awesome back then too,,, it just goes to show, forced growth ( abusing gh/slin ) seems only to build a thicker torso and legs
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ronnie 1998 1999
was no mess.... when he got really bigger he started to look ridiculous
but was still head and shoulders above everyone else
small joints rount muscles and v taper
hard vascular and build
you can see ronnies head then neck then traps then delts etc
branch looks all built into one...
out of whack too short too much size...
and small arms
Yup, Ronnie '98 and '99 was it. Too bad he couldn't keep refining that. 2003 he was a freak, but '98 was best. Again, these guys are forced to fuck up their physiques to comply with the "standard". E>en Branch looked much better after he won the nationals and just turned pro. But more and more drugs and hea>ier and hea>ier training just caused bloat and muscle tears which brings us to the fucked up >ersion he displays today. Fucking shame that that shit gets rewarded...
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Todays judging is bullshit.....I would`ve given the show to Evan because he simply he looks the best.
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He was genetically gifted but the new judging criteria, too much drugs and being Joe Weider's satanic sex slave ruined his physique.
(http://www.mostmuscular.com/newmm.cx/cxjune2002/cxwarren/branch_warren07.jpg)
I would ha>e no problem with this >ersion of Branch winning.
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My judging criteria mass 33% ,Symmetry/proportions 33%, condition 33%
Evan Centopani wins.
This.
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220 lb Ronnie isn't beating 220 llb Ray or flex, they just have better shape and lines. Which is the point, where is the cutoff?
Mixture of all is what people say but all things being equal people would have to push the mass. It's a fucked up criteria, simple as.
220 ronnie would be small because hes nearly a foot taller than ray
people carry weight differently...
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Wolf looked awesome even not winning he deserves the recognition.
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not at all .. i had wolf winning....
its not about black or white at all
im just saying branch phsyique is out of whack dont you think symmetry and balance should count for anything?
I agree "it's not about black or white at all" - I mean, seriously, we all miss Ronnie Coleman no matter who we are. Flex Wheeler was a badass bodybuilder (to look at)- his personality, communication skills and attitude sucked ass, but that's not what they were judging on, was it?
Black bodybuilders have a definite genetic advantage over your typical "white man's" structure. That's a fact. Any pure-blooded bodybuilder (or wannabe bodybuilder) wants to see a freak. Don't matter how racist you are.
It is what it is. Black men dominate the "O" and they have for some time now, and I assume they always will.
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by the jugding criteris
this guy is one of the greatest bbers ever
and would have won yesterday
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mass prop/symm condition
1st Centopani 8 8 8 =24
2nd Wolf 8 7 8 = 23
3rd Warren 8.5 5 8.5 =22
1-10 (ten being the best)
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mass prop/symm condition
1st Centopani 8 8 8 =24
2nd Wolf 8 7 8 = 23
3rd Warren 8.5 5 8.5 =22
1-10 (ten being the best)
You should be a judge.
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You should be a judge.
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Branch looks like a big ball of shit that was bombarded with gamma rays and came to life......he is a prime example of why bodybuilding sucks ass now.
Wolf destroyed him. Just about as big as far as muscle mass.....and LOOKS bigger and far more proportionate because his structure destroys the bloated elf's. And his muscle quality and separation are light years ahead of Branch's
And I know how BBing contests are judged....doesn't mean that it isn't a total joke.... Its pathetic that a fucking BLOB of shit like Warren is an Arnold classic champ.
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and Obama won the election, so by your logic he's the best.
Don't twist the little mans logic. You are going to cause his colon to prolapse.
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No, thats not what I'm talking about, I'm saying he has very little if any detail to his low back.
what detail??? branch waren has NO ARMS!!!,,he has tiny tiny arms maybe 17 inch in size,,it is one thing if he won with them being small like dorian and haney but he try to pull something here that make him look like the worst amatuer from some third world country ,,this is exampel of how NOT TO BRING LAGING BODY PART,,better stay with 17 inch arm he still woudl win but atleast wouldnt look like retard
gh15 approved
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Branch looks like a big ball of shit that was bombarded with gamma rays and came to life......he is a prime example of why bodybuilding sucks ass now.
Wolf destroyed him. Just about as big as far as muscle mass.....and LOOKS bigger and far more proportionate because his structure destroys the bloated elf's. And his muscle quality and separation are light years ahead of Branch's
And I know how BBing contests are judged....doesn't mean that it isn't a total joke.... Its pathetic that a fucking BLOB of shit like Warren is an Arnold classic champ.
this
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Wolf looked better than he has for a long time. His structure requires fullness yet a tight gut which he has trouble achieving consistently.
Branch has improved also people forget he was all legs even three years ago. His forearms are totally torn to pieces but his biceps look okay in the front double which counts for a lot.
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"You don't bring In lagging bodyparts" - GH15
You mean like calves and low back?
Like I said, if he hasn't brought up those bodyparts in all the years he's been training, he never will.
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looking at the fdb again it is absolutely terrible, forearms are the worst ever on a pro surely! Tiny bi's dwarfed by the tri's and overall don't stand out in the pose thats meant to showcase them
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Everytime a black man doesn't win it's the same cry "byyyaaahh, they don't award symmetry they don't award proportion" like that meant a fuck when Coleman was winning. ::)
What does race have to do with the original post, shit hole? ::) He felt Dennis Wolf should have won.
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This is the pic I was looking for but I thought it was from yesterday....it's from 2009...but regardless!
That is one of the saddest X-mas trees on a top Pro that I've ever seen...
To mee, they all look like compacted shit. The judges had the simple job of picking who looked the less like compacted shit. But, they do the opposite and pick the one who looks the most like compacted shit.
If ANYBODY had any sense, the judges all would have refused to judge the show and say that physique presented were so inferior and so embarassing for a top show like the Arnold, that it disgraced the Arnold Classic...that would have been big, and it would wake up the the bbing world about the substandard quality of physiques that have been presented.
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Branch looked like he made some improvements to his back. The judges rewarded him with the win. I think Branch has now passed Phil as the second best bodybuilder. We'll see in September.
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Branch looked like he made some improvements to his back. The judges rewarded him with the win. I think Branch has now passed Phil as the second best bodybuilder. We'll see in September.
Just think, had Phil entered, there would not have been a discussion on who should have won...and none of these threads would exist...
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This is the pic I was looking for but I thought it was from yesterday....it's from 2009...but regardless!
That's actually Martin Kjellstrom, you tard.
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Just think, had Phil entered, there would not have been a discussion on who should have won...and none of these threads would exist...
I get the feeling this year for Branch is like Dexter's 2008. Branch is late in his career and finally won the Arnold, it's now or never at the Olympia. Phil is holding a grudge against the Arnold after losing last year to Kai. It was a mistake to pass up the $140k check.
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I get the feeling this year for Branch is like Dexter's 2008. Branch is late in his career and finally won the Arnold, it's now or never at the Olympia. Phil is holding a grudge against the Arnold after losing last year to Kai. It was a mistake to pass up the $140k check.
Exactly, I too think Phil had a grudge over his "knocking at the door" debacle at the Arnold Classic...
He passed up a 140k check---he needs to check his ego, and see that barring Kai or Jay, he is better than the field by a long shot...
Especially when a humanoid T-Rex wins.
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Exactly, I too think Phil had a grudge over his "knocking at the door" debacle at the Arnold Classic...
He passed up a 140k check---he needs to check his ego, and see that barring Kai or Jay, he is better than the field by a long shot...
Especially when a humanoid T-Rex wins.
I don't think that's the reason Phil is sitting the Arnold out , I think it's because he doesn't want to get burned out on spring shows and give the Olympia 100% effort which he could win especially if Jay comes in less than perfect like 08 , a lot more money to be made being Mr Olympia than just an Arnold classic winner.
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220 ronnie would be small because hes nearly a foot taller than ray
people carry weight differently...
Taking it in to account and giving him the extra lb it would be the same.
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Branch looked like he made some improvements to his back. The judges rewarded him with the win. I think Branch has now passed Phil as the second best bodybuilder. We'll see in September.
no sorry .... nowhere near phill...
and branch wont beat jay .. they both have similiar size but jay is complete and looks 10 times better
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what detail??? branch waren has NO ARMS!!!,,he has tiny tiny arms maybe 17 inch in size,,it is one thing if he won with them being small like dorian and haney but he try to pull something here that make him look like the worst amatuer from some third world country ,,this is exampel of how NOT TO BRING LAGING BODY PART,,better stay with 17 inch arm he still woudl win but atleast wouldnt look like retard
gh15 approved
Nasser, you used synthol/esiclene too :D
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the diff is branch has NO ARMS!!! his arms could nto grow to fit his heavy oiled body,,if you think what branch has on his upper body is muscle per say you are out of your mind,,the only place he got musclde is his legs,,you dont win competition based on legs when the other upper torse is so fucked,,,jason is badbut still because he has more height and pull it better he can pull it somewhat acutaly he cant but becaue of height he is getting pass grade,, branch waren is fail!
gh15 approved
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the diff is branch has NO ARMS!!! his arms could nto grow to fit his heavy oiled body,,if you think what branch has on his upper body is muscle per say you are out of your mind,,the only place he got musclde is his legs,,you dont win competition based on legs when the other upper torse is so fucked,,,jason is badbut still because he has more height and pull it better he can pull it somewhat acutaly he cant but becaue of height he is getting pass grade,, branch waren is fail!
gh15 approved
CHE approved
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and what's with this crap people saying branch carries mass?
He's 5'6ish! he doesn't carry any mass! he's a goblin
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Arms don't matter. Lots of Mr Olympia's since Arnold has had tiny arms. It's all about massive backs, giant legs, insane glute conditioning and looking like shit.
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I highly doubt that Branch's "branches" are 17"- it's just that the rest of him is so big.
Branch is just un-pleasing to the eye, no matter how you paint him. THe judges probably all have free beef jerkey and man-pussy for the next 5 years or something....
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quite simply put, branch is Freddy Kruger on steroids.
Mr. Warrens body perfectly demonstrates the results you get from doing 1/8 of a rep ROM.
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"You don't bring In lagging bodyparts" - GH15
You mean like calves and low back?
Like I said, if he hasn't brought up those bodyparts in all the years he's been training, he never will.
look closely at branch waren arms ,,these are not muscle,,this is OIL within the muscle,,he does not have muscle to even remotely fit his heavy oil bag he created when getign profesional card,,arm implents like apperson would even be bnetter,,
whats the diff between velentino and waren? oh yes waren used less....btu the end result is same BLOB!!!! branch waren is blob with 19 inch arm or 20 inch arm of blob and velentino is 23 inch arm or 26 inch arm of blob,,,is it muscle? hell no it is not,,it is shit,,shit that even dumb whores knwo is not muscle
gh15 approved
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what detail??? branch waren has NO ARMS!!!,,he has tiny tiny arms maybe 17 inch in size,,it is one thing if he won with them being small like dorian and haney but he try to pull something here that make him look like the worst amatuer from some third world country ,,this is exampel of how NOT TO BRING LAGING BODY PART,,better stay with 17 inch arm he still woudl win but atleast wouldnt look like retard
gh15 approved
You need to say more lines like this i pissed myself laughing ;D
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"You don't bring In lagging bodyparts" - GH15
You mean like calves and low back?
Like I said, if he hasn't brought up those bodyparts in all the years he's been training, he never will.
You need some glasses broseph. Wolfs lower back is shitting all over Branch and Evan. Yes his calves suck, but his "lower" back is fine and his spinal erectors are thick as fuck.
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You need some glasses broseph. Wolfs lower back is shitting all over Branch and Evan. Yes his calves suck, but his "lower" back is fine and his spinal erectors are thick as fuck.
QFT
His lats just insert high and wide, which makes his Xmas tree practically invisible (Christmas tree comes from the insertions of the lats meeting the erectors, high and wide insertions=no visible Xmas tree)
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Interesting comparison
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368561.0;attach=404978;image)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/653/Men/IMG_3680.jpg)
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You need some glasses broseph. Wolfs lower back is shitting all over Branch and Evan. Yes his calves suck, but his "lower" back is fine and his spinal erectors are thick as fuck.
that lower back "problem" is usually referred to as a small waist.
in which case I agree, his waist should be much thicker to compete with branch and jay
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wolf > branch by far
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branch's tris look funky
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I think that Wolf should have won...The only area that he loses is on calves to Branch.. :'(
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This is the pic I was looking for but I thought it was from yesterday....it's from 2009...but regardless!
That's not Branch genius... ::)
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Dennis Wolf totally destroyed Branch.
Fucking gay, phaggot, cum guzzling, corrupt judges.
Hey judges. Wipe the cum and pro-tan out of your eyes, you must be blind.
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That's not Branch genius... ::)
I knew it! those are not Branch's glutes :D
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I knew it! those are not Branch's glutes :D
Martin Kjellstrom...
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How is Branch considered a top 3 bodybuilder in the world when Paco can't even place in third tier shows?
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How is Branch considered a top 3 bodybuilder in the world when Paco can't even place in third tier shows?
agree...
paco has sme of the best legs ever
and his arms makes branch arms looks like 17 inchers
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That's not Branch genius... ::)
Funny.... And he was wanting to tell me i was retarded :)
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Interesting comparison
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=368561.0;attach=404978;image)
(http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/653/Men/IMG_3680.jpg)
He actually looks better in the before pic. better lines.
Whats the weight difference between the pics?
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I have a few observations...
1) Evans structure is verry funny.i cant put a handle exactly...but the more im looking at it , hes got the opposit of WOLFS problem in that his lats extends tooooo far down to almost his waist.This creates a wider looking waist and actually spoils the V shape if you can believe that
2) Wolfs needs to put alottt more muscle behind his legs , his hams etc.It will divert the attention away a bit from him having weak back shots.Compare to warren anyone else and hear what im saying
3) I like victrs build , but damn his legs are missing whole muscles.How can he survive now.His front lat spread looks oddd , thats cos of his chest
am i wrong on these points ?
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Wolf needs more ass, hamstrings and calves.
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look closely at branch waren arms ,,these are not muscle,,this is OIL within the muscle,,he does not have muscle to even remotely fit his heavy oil bag he created when getign profesional card,,arm implents like apperson would even be bnetter,,
whats the diff between velentino and waren? oh yes waren used less....btu the end result is same BLOB!!!! branch waren is blob with 19 inch arm or 20 inch arm of blob and velentino is 23 inch arm or 26 inch arm of blob,,,is it muscle? hell no it is not,,it is shit,,shit that even dumb whores knwo is not muscle
gh15 approved
Groink approved. ...Warren is a disgusting blob of shit.
But given the fact that ALL pro BBers are giant blobs of drug infested muscle.....I guess it makes sense that that the biggest lump of shit won
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But given the fact that ALL pro BBers are giant blobs of drug infested muscle.....I guess it makes sense that that the biggest lump of shit won
Exactly. Most polished turd wins.
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All......(http://moneysavingqueen.com/images/2010/11/waffle-house.gif)
texas cheese steak please. hashbrowns scattared all the way.. mmmmm eggs scrambled with cheese
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It's time for a taller guy to rule the roost
And in bbibg terms I mean 5'10 upwards.... The midget packed with muscle look is retarded...
Wolf had the best physique on that stage.... No way should branch have won
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Branch looks like a big ball of shit that was bombarded with gamma rays and came to life......he is a prime example of why bodybuilding sucks ass now.
Wolf destroyed him. Just about as big as far as muscle mass.....and LOOKS bigger and far more proportionate because his structure destroys the bloated elf's. And his muscle quality and separation are light years ahead of Branch's
And I know how BBing contests are judged....doesn't mean that it isn't a total joke.... Its pathetic that a fucking BLOB of shit like Warren is an Arnold classic champ.
You are right about that boss
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It's time for a taller guy to rule the roost
And in bbibg terms I mean 5'10 upwards.... The midget packed with muscle look is retarded...
Wolf had the best physique on that stage.... No way should branch have won
And this is telling, because he looked shitty
I think, that certain bbers (like Phil and Kai) are quality control for the other guys, just Dex used to be, just like Flex, Chris, and Kev used to be.
These guys would show up in shape, so if other competitors knew that they were competing, they'd bring their "A", when they didn't compete the competition was not on par. This what I believe Phil and Kai (and Dex as well), roles are. For instance, Dex always had the condition card, so if competed, the competition knew that if they were off, he'd beat them---forcing them to up the "rippedness" factor for themselves.
Phil and Kai bring to the table conditioning and freakiness---one is known for a freaky set of arms and great back detail, the other for freaky mass and freaky "entertaining" posing...
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And this is telling, because he looked shitty
I think, that certain bbers (like Phil and Kai) are quality control for the other guys, just Dex used to be, just like Flex, Chris, and Kev used to be.
These guys would show up in shape, so if other competitors knew that they were competing, they'd bring their "A", when they didn't compete the competition was not on par. This what I believe Phil and Kai (and Dex as well), roles are. For instance, Dex always had the condition card, so if competed, the competition knew that if they were off, he'd beat them---forcing them to up the "rippedness" factor for themselves.
Phil and Kai bring to the table conditioning and freakiness---one is known for a freaky set of arms and great back detail, the other for freaky mass and freaky "entertaining" posing...
Honestly parker I dont know where you come up with some of this..
Kai's last couple outings were not that great.. He really looks like Ronnie's smaller deformed brother.... hes a mess, and his condition is hit or miss, so I dont really think the other guys worry about his conditioning.
And while Phil does come in shape, hes not THAT in shape, he lacks separation in his delts and he looks like an inflated balloon, hes nowhere near as ripped as the guys in the 90's.
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phil always reminds me of that spongebob episode where he had inflatable arms. hilarious.
(http://velocity.t-nation.com/forum_images/d/4/d434e-musclebobbuffpants.jpg)
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it was bnasicaly waren win because of hamstrings...not taking into consideration that his arms are not existant,,someone mention here tricep look funky,,it is because IT IS OIL IN THE ARM!,,branch waren won based on slightly direr look from on the legs,,which disapear in comparison to his no arms of his own ,,his arms stopped back at 18-19 inches...none of it over this is his,,and ofcourse his lower back this blob of oil and skin,,thick thick skin from severe abuse of hgh and insulin,,
wolfe although slighly weaker hams should have taken this compeititon ,,infact he has good chance to become mr o if competition judges corectly because he does brought up himself a notch and display his physiqe much better ,,his structure is a little diff but he is much better than branch waren and should have won this compeititon ,,you cant give first place to someone based on the fact he carry more loose skin ,,carry fake arms that dont look belong,,and his muscles dont seem to flex anymore,,its like blob of oil and muscle mix,,this is really disturbing,,there is one thing to see this in amatuer but to see it in arnold?
big big mistake,,wolf this time shoudl have won ,,branch shoudnt even got second ,,wolf,,evan then maybe branch 3rd i woudnt give him only due to the legs
gh15 approved
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i think synthol only really worked for ken wheelers arms
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phil always reminds me of that spongebob episode where he had inflatable arms. hilarious.
(http://velocity.t-nation.com/forum_images/d/4/d434e-musclebobbuffpants.jpg)
thats becaused phil heath is a 170lb fella closer to 165 lb fella when clean for over a year,,he is not and can not maintain 200lb unless in the mid doubles
gh15 approved
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I have no clue why people refuse to admit that Branch is a beautiful human sculpture
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tpfQetqkl5o/TU6q_O4qByI/AAAAAAAABtI/NxvufU-LBHY/s1600/118bb-24.jpg)
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no sorry .... nowhere near phill...
and branch wont beat jay .. they both have similiar size but jay is complete and looks 10 times better
I don't think Phil will ever win the Olympia. He does have what it takes to win the Arnold, but he passed on it and now Branch has the momentum.
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I have no clue why people refuse to admit that Branch is a beautiful human sculpture
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tpfQetqkl5o/TU6q_O4qByI/AAAAAAAABtI/NxvufU-LBHY/s1600/118bb-24.jpg)
legs very good,,upper body is a mess,,he should never even be top 6 in o line up defenitely not top 3,,this is realy bad ,,he regressed alot in and try to bring it up with gettign dry via diuretic ,,he is doing the dorian thing with OUT dorian level of muscle and with oil!,,legs are not enough to win major contests
gh15 approved
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weird build ...
massive legs...
short tine arms when in shape huge torso
too short to be that big....
retarded look thats not a sculpted body that looks good
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Wolf should have won this show. His lats are high but look at the spinal erectors, he has definitely improved his back.
I'll take that flaw over a physique that doesn't flow well. While Branch & Kai are amazing, neither has a good symmetrical flowing physique. I'll take wolf (in condition), evan, dexter, phil heath, or even rockel over those two because of structure & flow.
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the "judges" probably closed a schmoe deal with Branch at forehand. these old farts are getting their face squeezed between branches his thighs as we speak.
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the only real flaw dennis has is his calves....
branch is riddled with flaws...
the reason bbing is sooo SHIT nowadays
is people dont realise you CAN be TOO big even if ripped to shreds
branch is TOO BIG for 5'5
he looksl ike a mess
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Wolf should have won this show. His lats are high but look at the spinal erectors, he has definitely improved his back.
I'll take that flaw over a physique that doesn't flow well. While Branch & Kai are amazing, neither has a good symmetrical flowing physique. I'll take wolf (in condition), evan, dexter, phil heath, or even rockel over those two because of structure & flow.
Dennis Wolf got robbed..
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And this is telling, because he looked shitty
I think, that certain bbers (like Phil and Kai) are quality control for the other guys, just Dex used to be, just like Flex, Chris, and Kev used to be.
These guys would show up in shape, so if other competitors knew that they were competing, they'd bring their "A", when they didn't compete the competition was not on par. This what I believe Phil and Kai (and Dex as well), roles are. For instance, Dex always had the condition card, so if competed, the competition knew that if they were off, he'd beat them---forcing them to up the "rippedness" factor for themselves.
Phil and Kai bring to the table conditioning and freakiness---one is known for a freaky set of arms and great back detail, the other for freaky mass and freaky "entertaining" posing...
Good post, I agree. More so about Dexter than the others.
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very conditioned.... that i will give to him
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So what is your beef with him really? That he is short, bald and ugly? LOL what has that got to do with bodybuilding?
They like them pretty. Why do think they always return to salivate over Reeves and Paris.
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I don't get why people whine about Branch? Dude has a pretty tight midsection, is one of the few pros to look real good in a ab and thigh pose, he has huge calves, which most of the others lack and a really thick torso
So what is your beef with him really? That he is short, bald and ugly? LOL what has that got to do with bodybuilding?
Wolf has no calves which mess up his whole flow badly especially with his big quads, hams are lacking, lats are lacking thickness
Even with Branchs messed up oily arms he has less flaws than Wolf, I mean come on Wolfs arms are are not really all that good either, they are big but don't exactly have the best shape
you are honestly saying branch has les flaws than wolf??
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It's easy to post like that, perhaps you can counter my arguments with your own ???
Other than oilbag arms, what are his flaws? ???
Wolf flaws:
Hams
Glutes (no homo)
Lats
Calves
Branch flaws:
Oil arms
This is stupid, glutes aren't even a judging criteria. Wolf is many many inches bigger than Branch EVERYWHERE in his upper body. Branch is small EVERYWHERE but his legs, which of course are big because ehs a ffucking 5.6" midget and they will always be naturally big
Here, let's see
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB14067wtmk.JPG)
He is bigger EVERYWHERE THAN BRANCH. Hell, doesnt even look like Branch's famed calves are any bigger than Wolfs
So Branch's flaws:
Shitty 15 inch worse than amateur oilbag bis and tris
Even shittier worse than amateur worse than cashier forearms
Shitty entire upper body, outmassed by everyone around him on stage
Shitty elf troll head
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his whole physique is a flaw...
zero.. balance
ugly physique
good legs that it
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LOL, look how small Branch is compared to everyone. Wolfs delt is the size of his troll head
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB14074wtmk.JPG)
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It doesn't matter how many inches bigger he is, he is tall so he has to fill out more, Branch is not small everywhere ::)
Thicker pecs, much better hams, better lats, better calves, better quads
in fact the ONLY thing Branch is lacking now is a set of great arms, if he had arms he would be a pretty complete bodybuilder
Loses on height, hair and beauty ??? ??? ::)
You continue to pretend ignorance and ignore clear cut photographs of the competition. Branch looks like a small child next to Wolf, clear as crystal to everyone with eyes
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dennis has
better arms back shoulders abs
better balance symmetry build
branch has overall better legs
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no contest....
ask 100000000 million people they will agree
only shmoe bbing judges could ever place that mess of a physique over wolf.. or victor etc
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Where did I ignore pictures of the competition smartass? ::)
Oh, I didn't see it said obvious troll under your name. Waste of time
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Dennis' arms aren't really all that great, his shoulders are huge he takes that easy, back is not better, abs are not particularly better either, his balance is no way better when he has absolutely no calves, lacking hams and lat thickness
Obvious troll all wrong no surprise
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Dennis' arms aren't really all that great, his shoulders are huge he takes that easy, back is not better, abs are not particularly better either, his balance is no way better when he has absolutely no calves, lacking hams and lat thickness
didnt say his arms are great i said they are better than branches
which are to small for his huge torso ... his arms are also too short
also the abs arent comparale..
and dont get me started on branch's endormorph wiiiide waiste
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Grandma is talking .. 8)
http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/34fa665d31d3b4df81b5/sibil-peeters-interview-arnold-classic-2011 (http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/34fa665d31d3b4df81b5/sibil-peeters-interview-arnold-classic-2011)
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I don't get why people whine about Branch? Dude has a pretty tight midsection, is one of the few pros to look real good in a ab and thigh pose, he has huge calves, which most of the others lack and a really thick torso
So what is your beef with him really? That he is short, bald and ugly? LOL what has that got to do with bodybuilding?
Wolf has no calves which mess up his whole flow badly especially with his big quads, hams are lacking, lats are lacking thickness
Even with Branchs messed up oily arms he has less flaws than Wolf, I mean come on Wolfs arms are are not really all that good either, they are big but don't exactly have the best shape
Youre blind
And the "Wolf has a shitty back" thing is old tired and untrue.
He has vastly improved the thickness in his lower back....he had the best lumbars on stage...and his back was ALWAYS wide as fuck. His back looks great to me.
And it was wider and more detailed than Warrens....look at any picture from the show.
BUT.....that's the innate retardedness of BBing....now it doesn't matter how his back actually looks...he's got a "weak back" ::)
Calves aren't that great....but I think branches arms should be marked down a helluva lot more than Wollfs calves.....they are disgusting and obviously loaded with oil. And Arms are a MAJOR bodypart.
I don't see where Branch was any more conditioned than Wolf or Centopani. ...he looks bloofy and waterlogged
Wolfs structure and appearance and qaulity of muscle FUCKING destroy the Elf.....
.And I can hear it now "well THE JUDGES" thought branch was better so STFU...
I could give a crap what the judges think...they have been getting it wrong more often than right since day one
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Youre blind
And the "Wolf has a shitty back" thing is old tired and untrue.
He has vastly improved the thickness in his lower back....he had the best lumbars on stage...and his back was ALWAYS wide as fuck. His back looks great to me.
And it was wider and more detailed than Warrens....look at any picture from the show.
BUT.....that's the innate retardedness of BBing....now it doesn't matter how his back actually looks...he's got a "weak back" ::)
Calves aren't that great....but I think branches arms should be marked down a helluva lot more than Wollfs calves.....they are disgusting and obviously loaded with oil. And Arms are a MAJOR bodypart.
I don't see where Branch was any more conditioned than Wolf or Centopani. ...he looks bloofy and waterlogged
Wolfs structure and appearance and qaulity of muscle FUCKING destroy the Elf.....
.And I can hear it now "well THE JUDGES" thought branch was better so STFU...
I could give a crap what the judges think...they have been getting it wrong more often than right since day one
this.
branch overall shape looks horrilbe from EVERY angle....
horrible muscle shape...
on the judges current way of thing markus rhul should have a few sandows and kovacs
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branch has a good colour
wolf still looks better in that shot
.... wide waiste on branch
he just looks horrible..
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I don't think that's the reason Phil is sitting the Arnold out , I think it's because he doesn't want to get burned out on spring shows and give the Olympia 100% effort which he could win especially if Jay comes in less than perfect like 08 , a lot more money to be made being Mr Olympia than just an Arnold classic winner.
also let's not forget that this the winner of the Olympia is not a random occurrence. The Weiders are in full control and they probably told Phil to stop doing the Arnold and he would be rewarded.
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Honestly look at that picture, zoom in on Wolfs back, you know where the christmas tree is supposed to show so we se the separation between his lats and erector spinae? There is nothing there ??? Honestly he needs to improve them
Branch is more ripped.
But Wolf is just generally better. Better foundation, better flow, better symetry, no muscle tears, less weak points, less bloating, better abs, better arms......
Branch is just massive and ripped with crazy legs. That's it.
Wolf should have won.
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Honestly look at that picture, zoom in on Wolfs back, you know where the christmas tree is supposed to show so we se the separation between his lats and erector spinae? There is nothing there ??? Honestly he needs to improve them
I see clearly defined muscle in that area...and a trim waist.
On Branch I loose skin folding over and a wide waist. His whole back looks watery and his muscle quality is poor. Just crappy "Mass" that apparently wins contests
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all shoulders/traps and erector spinae..
I don't see this becoming a top getbig catchphrase
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Honestly parker I dont know where you come up with some of this..
Kai's last couple outings were not that great.. He really looks like Ronnie's smaller deformed brother.... hes a mess, and his condition is hit or miss, so I dont really think the other guys worry about his conditioning.
And while Phil does come in shape, hes not THAT in shape, he lacks separation in his delts and he looks like an inflated balloon, hes nowhere near as ripped as the guys in the 90's.
Actually, it was something Flex or Shawn had said....depending on who enters the show in terms of top runners, they were the ones who set the tone...just like how Dorian or Ronnie set the tone, so the competition knew that what they had to contend with...
And Kai has looked freaky at the Arnold the last couple of yrs...
Look at it not as a comparison to the 90's but as a mechanism withing the competition.
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if Wolf has a shitty back then the emperor has a new set of clothes
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I don't get why people whine about Branch? Dude has a pretty tight midsection, is one of the few pros to look real good in a ab and thigh pose, he has huge calves, which most of the others lack and a really thick torso
So what is your beef with him really? That he is short, bald and ugly? LOL what has that got to do with bodybuilding?
Wolf has no calves which mess up his whole flow badly especially with his big quads, hams are lacking, lats are lacking thickness
Even with Branchs messed up oily arms he has less flaws than Wolf, I mean come on Wolfs arms are are not really all that good either, they are big but don't exactly have the best shape
+ Liar had the ultimate stubby arms and people loved his, so short arms isn't a good reason.
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Branch has always had a soft back. It looked like he brought in more back thickness to the Arnold, but ended up even softer, with skin folds in his lower back.
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