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Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« on: September 29, 2007, 01:13:18 PM »
I honestly figured Big Ron would look like he did because his physique
has always been built and maintained by heavy weights. Although age plays a factor
I don't think a year should have made as big a difference as his body showed this year.
I don't think he over dieted.. I just think training with lighter weights made him lose
alot of density. (Just look at his legs for example) I know he was trying to prevent further injury but he should have just bowed out if he could not train the same. The lighter weight training works for very few people..
(Vince Taylor) being one of them. I wanted to get some of your input on this theory but
I truly believe this is the biggest factor in the Ronnie we saw last night.

2006 compared with 2007

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 01:20:48 PM »
Wolf uses higher reps.  8)

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 01:22:00 PM »
age + injury + burnt-out receptors = 2007 Coleman
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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 01:23:47 PM »
He's also using Ronnie and the majority of the line up to wipe the stage  8) Unfortunatley he will not get that credit... :-\

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 01:24:18 PM »
age + injury + burnt-out receptors = 2007 Coleman

Goat, can you explain receptors to us?

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2007, 01:31:06 PM »
I see you're new here. This post might have some answers.
What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?

Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders.

The condition is first characterised by the sudden development of an enormous midsection whereby the entire width of the trunk, ribcage and pelvis grows disproportionately whilst the oblique muscles will thicken rapidly and the abdomen will become distended with the patient unable to hold in their stomach.



The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism



A particularly spectacular symptom used to confirm diagnosis are disproportionally small limbs on the otherwise gigantic upper body. This is first observed in the upper limbs, where the arms seem to remain in a catabolic shrinking state compared to the torso who's internal structures are growing out of control in all directions. The reasons for this are not yet understood. The quadraceps muscles of the legs also seem to be ever shrinking.

Overall a more neanderthal type structure develops:





In advanced Palumboism the outer dermis takes on a crackly brittle look, almost as if the patient has been glazed or varnished like a ceramic souvenier. The color of the skin will become uneven displaying varying hues and shades from grey to bright orange throughout the entire body, whilst the skin may appear weathered and abnormally aged.



There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.

Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.

Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.


What causes Palumboism ?

It is not fully known what causes the disease, although it is speculated that a genetic predisposition combined with an over reliance on high and never ending doses of various anabolic drugs accompanied by a gradual 'shut down' or mutation of the patient's own endiginous endocrine system possibly awakening dormant cro-magnonesque genes are causative factors.

Although Palumboism shares some symptoms with Acromegaly it should not be confused due to the additional conditions described above when making a diagnosis.


Treatments

There is no known cure for Palumboism, as long as the patient remains on his drug regimen there is little comfort and the condition will continue to deteriorate.

Promptly discontinuing drug use may halt further development of the condition although it cannot be fully reversed.





Palumboism in women

Although Palumboism can occur in the female sex it is extremely rare for the condition to reach the advanced stages witnessed in men, therefore accurate and prompt diagnosis becomes more difficult.

Whilst it should be noted that female Palumboism must not be directly confused with the seperate condition of virilization which is more commonly encountered, more cases of female Palumboism are being diagnosed and reported everyday.



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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2007, 01:32:28 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_receptor


Receptor burnout/downgrade is not proven and alot believe it to be a complete myth.

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2007, 01:33:07 PM »
We should get Palumboism as a wiki page  8)

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2007, 01:35:22 PM »
Receptor burnout/downgrade is not proven and alot believe it to be a complete myth.
links/sources please?
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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2007, 01:35:32 PM »
Receptor burnout/downgrade is not proven and alot believe it to be a complete myth.

The medical community used to insist that "steroids don't work".  ::)

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 01:37:48 PM »
Receptor burnout/downgrade is not proven and alot believe it to be a complete myth.

When muscles begin to atrophy despite larger and larger doses of anabolics, what would your explaination be?  There has to be a reason muscles stop responding to the juice. Receptor disfunction makes the most sense.
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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2007, 01:39:39 PM »
We should get Palumboism as a wiki page  8)

I agree someone should post it.

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2007, 01:41:23 PM »
I honestly figured Big Ron would look like he did because his physique
has always been built and maintained by heavy weights. Although age plays a factor
I don't think a year should have made as big a difference as his body showed this year.
I don't think he over dieted.. I just think training with lighter weights made him lose
alot of density. (Just look at his legs for example) I know he was trying to prevent further injury but he should have just bowed out if he could not train the same. The lighter weight training works for very few people..
(Vince Taylor) being one of them. I wanted to get some of your input on this theory but
I truly believe this is the biggest factor in the Ronnie we saw last night.

2006 compared with 2007

do not forget that what ever changes he made in his training or diet, he is much more conditioned than last year

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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2007, 04:04:25 PM »
The little bit of improved conditioning unfortuanately doesn't
make up for the massive loss in size. He looks stringy for Ronnie.
I believe he could have come in like the Dutch Grand Prix after
the O last year and possibly taken it all.


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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2007, 04:08:18 PM »
I remember seeing him train with 20 reps or so....when Chic was interviewing him...you may well be right...
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Re: Lighter weights + higher reps = 2007 Coleman
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2007, 04:09:10 PM »
Ronnies back (even missing half a lat) is better that Jay