Game Over for Clinton

[Hedgehog]

Hillary Clinton needed to win big in Indiana. Yet she was still only able to get a slim victory by some 20 000 votes or so.

Despite the "Operation Chaos".

Not to mention the fact that Obama slaughtered her in NC.

It's all over now, baby Blue.

[Hugo Chavez]

speaking of operation chaos... isn't that fucktard Rush breaking some federal election laws or something.  With the mountain of laws we have, I find it hard to believe he can pull this shit with no legal blowback.

What a fucking Jackass

[Hedgehog]

speaking of operation chaos... isn't that fucktard Rush breaking some federal election laws or something.  With the mountain of laws we have, I find it hard to believe he can pull this shit with no legal blowback.

What a fucking Jackass

I think it's a good thing.

It just further points out the weakness of the current two-party system.

Parlamentarism/federalism. That's where it's at.

Look at the current German model.

BTW, Germany is great.

[24KT]

I think it's a good thing.

It just further points out the weakness of the current two-party system.

Parlamentarism/federalism. That's where it's at.

Look at the current German model.

BTW, Germany is great.

The current German model has a female head of state.

I don't think that's the ideal state of affairs for America, ...at least not at this time.

Gotta agree though, ...the current US 2 party system sucks.

[Hedgehog]

The current German model has a female head of state.

I don't think that's the ideal state of affairs for America, ...at least not at this time.

Gotta agree though, ...the current US 2 party system sucks.

There is nothing in Germany's model that says it has to be a woman as head of state.

As a matter of fact, the current president isn't female.

His name is Horst Köhler.

Germany's chancellor is though. Her name is Angela Merkel.

But the previous chancellor was male, so I think you're wrong to assume that the German model somehow demands a woman as a chancellor.

Get your facts straight.

[Hugo Chavez]

I don't know where the female jab came from   Who gives a fuck... I doubt there's many chics or guys that will fuck it up any worse than the retard in there now.  We're rock fucking bottom now... This isn't the time Jag   What time would be better

Hedge, The two party issue is separate from what Rush is doing.  Rush's style of disenfranchising the system could easily fuck with most democracies.  You get a guy who gets on the air with the intent of exploiting a weakness to one party's benefit.  That's just fucked up.  The only reason Rush couldn't go over to Germany and do the same thing is because he'd probably be tossed in Jail there.

[Nordic Superman]

Get your facts straight.

Jag, Facts, Straight?

Strange combination!

[Hugo Chavez]

personally, i pay little attention to fat, bald, limp, deaf drug addicts.



NT

It's not us paying attention to him that bugs me.  It's his minion of idiots.  If I tried to up and disenfranchise republican voters, there's a pretty good chance I'd find myself in a federal pound me in the ass prison.  I only want a little fairness in and unfair world

[Hugo Chavez]

rush's "minion of idiots" are made up of religious fanatic's, not unlike the "Islamofascists" mccain speaks about frequently.



NT

yup...

[Eyeball Chambers]

federal pound me in the ass prison.

You get conjugal visits though? Right?

[Hugo Chavez]

You get conjugal visits though? Right?

no that was the white collar resort prison   Love that show.

[Eyeball Chambers]

no that was the white collar resort prison

Oh yeah haha

[Hedgehog]

Hedge, The two party issue is separate from what Rush is doing.  Rush's style of disenfranchising the system could easily fuck with most democracies.  You get a guy who gets on the air with the intent of exploiting a weakness to one party's benefit.  That's just fucked up.  The only reason Rush couldn't go over to Germany and do the same thing is because he'd probably be tossed in Jail there.

I see what you're saying.

The thing is that his antics brings attention to the whole problem.

He's probably legally insane, and I actually mean that.

But the stuff he does, it makes the general public aware.

And no matter what Party affiliation you have, most people support pro-Democratic movements.

[240 is Back]

Rush wants riots in american cities.

at this point, you have to realize he's something very bad.

[shootfighter1]

I know its fashionable to blame everything on Bush (and on many things I agree), but our democratic controlled congress has contributed its fair share these last two yrs.

Clinton won't give up until at least June 3rd....and she is ahead in the projections in the next two states.  Nonetheless, the day went more to Obama yesterday.

[Hedgehog]

I know its fashionable to blame everything on Bush (and on many things I agree), but our democratic controlled congress has contributed its fair share these last two yrs.

Two questions:

1. From what I understand, the congress has been controlled by the democrats since January 2007.
How do you make that into 2 years?

2. What exactly do you think the congress is to be blamed for?

[240 is Back]

Bush went on tv and said if congress didn't give him the money he wanted, soldiers would die and their blood would be on the dems hands.

he politicized their deaths.

he used patraeus to parrot his agenda, and now patraeus is setting himself up to be sec of defense under prez. mccain (he just moved up ladder after testifying - lol).

congress tried to add benchmarks, you know, those little things called GOALS.  Bush vetoed it.

I've love to hear shoot list the things that the dems have done wrong in their 16 months in office.

[loco]

I think it's a good thing.

It just further points out the weakness of the current two-party system.

Parlamentarism/federalism. That's where it's at.

Look at the current German model.

BTW, Germany is great.

If say the Green Party gets 5% or more of the popular vote in 2008, would that not turn this into a three-party system?  This means American citizens have the power, through voting, to break the two-party system, right?

[Decker]

There is nothing in Germany's model that says it has to be a woman as head of state.

As a matter of fact, the current president isn't female.

His name is Horst Köhler.

Germany's chancellor is though. Her name is Angela Merkel.

But the previous chancellor was male, so I think you're wrong to assume that the German model somehow demands a woman as a chancellor.

Get your facts straight.

If my wife and I ever have a son, I want to name him Horst. 

[windsor88]

If say the Green Party gets 5% or more of the popular vote in 2008, would that not turn this into a three-party system?  This means American citizens have the power, through voting, to break the two-party system, right?

A great percentage of Americans are too fucking stupid to think for themselves.  The media and/or religion own their minds.

[loco]

A great percentage of Americans are too fucking stupid to think for themselves.  The media and/or religion own their minds.

Would Parlamentarism/federalism solve that?

[Hedgehog]

If say the Green Party gets 5% or more of the popular vote in 2008, would that not turn this into a three-party system?  This means American citizens have the power, through voting, to break the two-party system, right?

Not really.

Because only the biggest party in each state gets the electorates.

This means that it is meaningless to vote on a small party, since that vote will be in vain.

You have to vote on the "other" candidate, the one that has the realistic chance of beating the other big candidate.

If instead the vote from each state would be proportionally spread over each party and presidential candidate, that would allow for multiple parties and candidates.

To avoid political chaos, just have a 3 or 4 % limit that the parties has to reach to get into the congress.

Or 10 % in an individual state (one party may not be able to get 3% in the whole US but may be able to get 10% in an individual state, then that should be grounds for seats in the congress)

[Tre]

He's probably legally insane, and I actually mean that.

But the stuff he does, it makes the general public aware.

I'm thankful that his show was around when the Clintons first came to power.  Believe it or not, I was actually a huge Rush fan back then.

[gordiano]

personally, i pay little attention to fat, bald, limp, deaf drug addicts.



NT

Problem is, a lot of (dumb) people do......