is getting a pump really related to stimulating hypertrophy?

[Donny]

volume and pump is the way to go... you feel it in the muscle(S)-- you feel like fucking king kong. NO way you will feel this with one or two sets. In my opinion the body is designed to work hard..yes and more. look at a Zulu warrior..ran 100 miles and still fought. (Rogues Drift). The idea of doing such short training never appealed to me or training to absolute failure. Each person can feel when itīs enough.

[dj181]

Not sure if serious, but thanks anyway.  

18 1/4 inch arms shit, then I will take that on the chin

you got a damn good physique on you dude

NO DOUBT

[Gargamel]

another thing is, my arms, theyre not the biggest guns out there, but theyre striated 18inch on small frame.

i can do skullcrushers with 160lbs for 10 clean reps,i can do bar curls with full range and slow with olympic bar and 1 plate each side for 8reps.

but you know how i train the arms most of the time?

i do cable stuff for triceps, skullcrushers with 70lbs for many many reps, biceps curls with 25lbs dumbells.

and it makes fuck all of a difference.

the one difference is, my joints dont hurt the next day if i go light.

if you could do 160 skullcrushers and 135 barbell curls good form(full range and slow as you said) your joints wouldnt hurt the next day

[ukjeff]

if you could do 160 skullcrushers and 135 barbell curls good form(full range and slow as you said) your joints wouldnt hurt the next day

And you know this how Doctor..

[Gargamel]

And you know this how Doctor..

no need to be a doctor ffs. If you did barbell curls simply moving your forearms up and down isolating your biceps why would your joints hurt??

[anabolichalo]

dorian yates says decline bench press is WAY superior to flat bench press for pec development. true? he claims because the function of the pec is to pull the humerus across the body in a downward angle



also he claims that barbell rows with back at 45 degrees is better to develop the "lower lats"
parallel to the floor barbell rows are only hitting the upper back and arms he says


true?


he says it with such confidence and cogency you could believe it on the spot


but is he actually knowledgeable on anatomy?

[Donny]

dorian yates says decline bench press is WAY superior to flat bench press for pec development. true? he claims because the function of the pec is to pull the humerus across the body in a downward angle



also he claims that barbell rows with back at 45 degrees is better to develop the "lower lats"
parallel to the floor barbell rows are only hitting the upper back and arms he says


true?


he says it with such confidence and cogency you could believe it on the spot


but is he actually knowledgeable on anatomy?

I agree with Decline bench. Barbell rows i love. i agree too there to a point. itīs more a question of hand spacing and grip.. supination or pronation. and where you bring the bar to. I row slightly above parallel but not so high as yates did.

[anabolichalo]

I agree with Decline bench. Barbell rows i love. i agree too there to a point. itīs more a question of hand spacing and grip.. supination or pronation. and where you bring the bar to. I row slightly above parallel but not so high as yates did.

you have to pull the bar to the hips to use lats and to the stomach to use more rhomboids

correct?

supinated or pronated seems like the same deal

the twisting of the bones in the lower arm doesnt affect the movement of the humerus?

and the lats are not connected to the lower arm bones


?

this supination - pronation thing seems like broscience honestly

please speak on this

[anabolichalo]

hey , mongoloid, there is not one single exercise which fully isolates any particular muscle.

i hope this helps.

when you do "heavy" barbell curls, no matter how heavy, there will always be some other stabilisation muscles and joints involved.

no need to be a doctor, uh?no need to be a moron either


anabolchao,i think banchpress for pecs is severly overrated, just think how the pecs work, bench press isnt even close to the natural movement for the pecs.
but yes, depending on shoulder structure, decline or incline will be better than flat bench for some.

my chest is kinda shit, but ukjeffs chest is very good and he dont bench afaik

what does jeff do for pecs then?

machine presses or all fly motions

[anabolichalo]

hes very knowledgeable on chest stuff in general

im sure he will share his chest programme.

for what its worth,i get the best pump from fly motions.and decline press

since starting my roids i didnt do flat bench anymore

only decline, incline and fly motions
i notice with incline barbell bench bring the bar all the way down to the chest is asking for shoulder pain

also dips


hoping my chest will stop being so shit one day lol


but most i care about is arms tho


girls like to hold a guys arms as hes fucking them and they feel like "thats my man"

true story

[Donny]

you have to pull the bar to the hips to use lats and to the stomach to use more rhomboids

correct?

supinated or pronated seems like the same deal

the twisting of the bones in the lower arm doesnt affect the movement of the humerus?

and the lats are not connected to the lower arm bones


?

this supination - pronation thing seems like broscience honestly

please speak on this

itīs about SCALPULAE RETRACTION...read up on it then we will talk when you understand BASICS. Try sternum chins compared to normal chins. tell me if you do not feel it.

[anabolichalo]

itīs about SCALPULAE RETRACTION...read up on it then we will talk when you understand BASICS. Try sternum chins compared to normal chins. tell me if you do not feel it.

i dont want to read walls of text

just want the bottom line

so i should do supinated barbell rows instead of pronated? ok

45 degrees? 90 degrees?

thankls

[Donny]

i dont want to read walls of text

just want the bottom line

so i should do supinated barbell rows instead of pronated? ok

45 degrees? 90 degrees?

thankls
Bottom line is row at a position that is good for your lower back. I Row at just about 110 degrees not sure. You can feel if itīs good if you are an experienced trainer. I do do supinated sternum chins so i do pronated barbell rows BUT i still swap them over...what is best in my opinion ? SUPINATED Barbell rows just above 90 degrees.

[njflex]

ONE OF THE BEST 'MACHINE'TYPE OF ROWS IS THE STANDING ANGLED.. CHEST TO PAD TBAR ROW,INNER AND WIDE GRIP...

[prizm]

no need to be a doctor ffs. If you did barbell curls simply moving your forearms up and down isolating your biceps why would your joints hurt??

Shearing stress

[anabolichalo]

ONE OF THE BEST 'MACHINE'TYPE OF ROWS IS THE STANDING ANGLED.. CHEST TO PAD TBAR ROW,INNER AND WIDE GRIP...

a t bar row machine with a chest support?

[Gargamel]

i have to quote this again, because its so dumb.lol.

"isolating muscle"

where did you read about that?haha

tell me, how do you isolate the muscle?

are you one of them folks who can isolate each particular delt part

post a video of your perfect form 135 barbell curls for 10 reps then. It is easier to isolate the biceps with concentration curls or scott curls but still it can be done with standing barbell curls if you leave out your ego and lower your weight to something more appropriate. I bet you use momentum, front delt and even lower back when curling 135.

[anabolichalo]

i do barbell curls with i guess like 30kilos

because i lock the upper arms in a verticel position

to be able to do this and not call over

you need to dip the knees and assume some sort of very solid stance and tense the whole body

only this way can you do obesssive compulsively strict barbell curls


gym looks a bit puzzled why i use this bitch light weight

[Donny]

CHILDREN CHILDREN::: DO DRAG CURLS...now the elbow position is important. then tell me if this is diffrent to a standard barbell curl.

[a_ahmed]

drag curling is something i discovered maybe two months ago, whether barbell or dumbell, great way to contract and feel biceps.

The other thing i do lately is outward bicep curls no idea how its called but you hold dumbells outside and stretch outwardly from your sides not in front of you and let the arm hang low then pull up and squeeze sideways totally contracting biceps only.. feels very isolated. Elbows tucked in sides of hips if that makes sense... im sure there is a name for it.

[anabolichalo]

what's drag curling? curling in a dress?

[Donny]

what's drag curling? curling in a dress?

[sexpert]

i do barbell curls with i guess like 30kilos

because i lock the upper arms in a verticel position

to be able to do this and not call over

you need to dip the knees and assume some sort of very solid stance and tense the whole body

only this way can you do obesssive compulsively strict barbell curls


gym looks a bit puzzled why i use this bitch light weight

dude can you train me? you know the drugs right?

[sexpert]

a t bar row machine with a chest support?

you are i can read a full blown expert on training. tell me please

[anabolichalo]

dude can you train me? you know the drugs right?

yes but first you must do chores, clean my car etc to show respect for the teacher

like in the karate kid and other classic movies