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Title: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 27, 2011, 12:39:35 PM
Hide Fukushyamagishi's delt workout. Nothing special accept for that mouthguard with the Italian flag on it. Did he chewed too much pasta with sushi or what?



Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Fortress on April 27, 2011, 12:48:54 PM
Another ultra-boring workout. And his partner is racing around taking care of the guy like a true hanger-on.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Schmoff on April 27, 2011, 12:49:05 PM
"this exercise is rateral laises, I do 4 sets, I do drop sets, from 40 to 20, no lest"

hahahaha classic

 ;D :-X
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 27, 2011, 12:54:52 PM
"this exercise is rateral laises, I do 4 sets, I do drop sets, from 40 to 20, no lest"

hahahaha classic

 ;D :-X
Don't make Musslecentel angly  ;D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Hulkotron on April 27, 2011, 12:56:50 PM
Haha, I love the mouthguard.  Hardcore!
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Hulkotron on April 27, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
Hide's workouts are so intense that he will literally bite off his own tongue if suitable protection is lacking.

lol
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: gh15 on April 27, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
jap is done,,

just so you understand fellas,,this is not the right way to work any musckle,,this is injury seeking training due to too many exercises ,,this is not! the way to train not even on the doses of gh and insulina he is on ,,he is done as i said before,,he has been done for quite some time ,,but in his case genetic not his strong part

if any one of you think you can develop muscle working it 30 sets you are dreaming in lala land,,all you do is burn it ,,eat it ,,and if you are on mega hormones you maybe maintain it while burning bodyfat but! but!  it can only be temporary until you injure or until you start flatening yourself no matter what hormone you are on and no matter what diet you are on

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Schmoff on April 27, 2011, 01:13:59 PM
jap is done,,

just so you understand fellas,,this is not the right way to work any musckle,,this is injury seeking training due to too many exercises ,,this is not! the way to train not even on the doses of gh and insulina he is on ,,he is done as i said before,,he has been done for quite some time ,,but in his case genetic not his strong part

if any one of you think you can develop muscle working it 30 sets you are dreaming in lala land,,all you do is burn it ,,eat it ,,and if you are on mega hormones you maybe maintain it while burning bodyfat but! but!  it can only be temporary until you injure or until you start flatening yourself no matter what hormone you are on and no matter what diet you are on

gh15 approved

so how many exercises and how many sets per each exercise should a juicer do in order to stimulate muscles optimally and maximally?

and how about for naturals?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Hulkotron on April 27, 2011, 01:17:17 PM
adrian does seven exercises for chest and he is a natural.  He also got gyno from taking NOXplode.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: g101 on April 27, 2011, 01:18:03 PM
jap is done,,

just so you understand fellas,,this is not the right way to work any musckle,,this is injury seeking training due to too many exercises ,,this is not! the way to train not even on the doses of gh and insulina he is on ,,he is done as i said before,,he has been done for quite some time ,,but in his case genetic not his strong part

if any one of you think you can develop muscle working it 30 sets you are dreaming in lala land,,all you do is burn it ,,eat it ,,and if you are on mega hormones you maybe maintain it while burning bodyfat but! but!  it can only be temporary until you injure or until you start flatening yourself no matter what hormone you are on and no matter what diet you are on

gh15 approved

how many sets is optimal then for which body parts
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 27, 2011, 01:19:14 PM
Spot on about his excessive volume.
I only do wide grip upright BB rows, some DB presses and sometimes lat raises. That's it and I get compliments for my delts as a result.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: gh15 on April 27, 2011, 01:20:17 PM
13-17 sets you better be done with  amuscle group,,you dont need more than 13-17 sets ,,good sets per muscle group,,les for arms

naturals...it depends on fellas,,but more they train more they waist,,natural is mainly kitchen and training very veyr smart,,and very few do it ,,and even if do it you never look big,,you look either ripped and small when 6% or.....big and chunky/chubby ....or in most cases with fellas that seasonaly come into the gym ...skinny fat as you like to call it,,but if serious natural which not many around then you need to know everything you do to the t and youll never ever see 190 5-6% never fuckin ever not even if you are 5'11

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: gh15 on April 27, 2011, 01:22:02 PM
Spot on about his excessive volume.
I only do wide grip upright BB rows, some DB presses and sometimes lat raises. That's it and I get compliments for my delts as a result.

people actualy think you can develp muscle from this,,and grow th emuscle.....they dont understand this is made for gaspari nutrition mainly so they can sell supplements,,many misguided goolibles that are 15-25 in the cult,,some are even approaching 30....thats the problem if the fella understood what the game is really all about at age 18....half of you fellas would be professionals

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: _bruce_ on April 27, 2011, 01:22:59 PM
ror
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: wavelength on April 27, 2011, 01:24:55 PM
You mean those pro bodybuilder really don't know any secrets?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: g101 on April 27, 2011, 01:25:55 PM
13-17 sets you better be done with  amuscle group,,you dont need more than 13-17 sets ,,good sets per muscle group,,les for arms

so for arms we're looking at i'm guessing 6-9 reps to failure or 6-8 or 10 because in the past you used to say to work arms to failure no matter what the weight
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2011, 03:35:09 PM
Looks like Big Dicked Bob needs to take over and show him some upright rows.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: chaos on April 27, 2011, 03:43:12 PM
jap is done,,

just so you understand fellas,,this is not the right way to work any musckle,,this is injury seeking training due to too many exercises ,,this is not! the way to train

gh15 approved
It's the way he's done it for years, I know, I was there.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: affeman on April 27, 2011, 03:48:21 PM
jap is done,,

just so you understand fellas,,this is not the right way to work any musckle,,this is injury seeking training due to too many exercises ,,this is not! the way to train not even on the doses of gh and insulina he is on ,,he is done as i said before,,he has been done for quite some time ,,but in his case genetic not his strong part

if any one of you think you can develop muscle working it 30 sets you are dreaming in lala land,,all you do is burn it ,,eat it ,,and if you are on mega hormones you maybe maintain it while burning bodyfat but! but!  it can only be temporary until you injure or until you start flatening yourself no matter what hormone you are on and no matter what diet you are on

gh15 approved

How come Jason does like 30 sets total with every single machine there is in the gym for legs and has the best legs in the business?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2011, 03:51:14 PM
It's the way he's done it for years, I know, I was there.
Where is Milos now you heard?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: chaos on April 27, 2011, 03:53:49 PM
Where is Milos now you heard?
I'm not at liberty to discuss those matters at this point in time. :)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: cephissus on April 27, 2011, 04:15:14 PM
people actualy think you can develp muscle from this,,and grow th emuscle.....they dont understand this is made for gaspari nutrition mainly so they can sell supplements,,many misguided goolibles that are 15-25 in the cult,,some are even approaching 30....thats the problem if the fella understood what the game is really all about at age 18....half of you fellas would be professionals

gh15 approved

Awesome post.

What the fuck is the point of doing an overhead press in three different variations, two variations of lateral raise, two variations of front raise, and two variations of rear raise?!

I would like to hear anyone justify that.  And if you can't explain it, why would you do it?

I mean, do those three different overhead presses really serve a unique purpose?  Why not just do three times as many sets on one variation?

Why the hell do so many sets anyway?  I would be very surprised if, after that dropset from three plates on the seated overhead press, his delts weren't totally fried and numb.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: cephissus on April 27, 2011, 04:19:12 PM
How come Jason does like 30 sets total with every single machine there is in the gym for legs and has the best legs in the business?

People like to isolate single factors and attribute results to them.  This is a flawed method, though -- exactly the opposite of the scientific method.

So he does 30 sets and has the best legs -- what else does he do?  What else could be the cause?  How do all of the different factors work together to produce the end result?

Do you ever notice some guys do half as many sets, with legs that are nearly as good, or better?

It wouldn't surprise me if these guys had never seriously tried other training styles, believing firmly in the philosophy "if it isn't broken, why fix it?"

Maybe they only train this way for the cameras?  It's hard to understand why, when undoubtedly they could have the same, if not better results, without spending an eternity in the gym each day.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: chaos on April 27, 2011, 04:22:19 PM
People like to isolate single factors and attribute results to them.  This is a flawed method, though -- exactly the opposite of the scientific method.

So he does 30 sets and has the best legs -- what else does he do?  What else could be the cause?  How do all of the different factors work together to produce the end result?

Do you ever notice some guys do half as many sets, with legs that are nearly as good, or better?

It wouldn't surprise me if these guys had never seriously tried other training styles, believing firmly in the philosophy "if it isn't broken, why fix it?"

Maybe they only train this way for the cameras?  It's hard to understand why, when undoubtedly they could have the same, if not better results, without spending an eternity in the gym each day.
Usually those types of workouts are very quick. Besides, what else is a bodybuilder going to do with his day?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Hulkotron on April 27, 2011, 04:23:06 PM
Awesome post.

What the fuck is the point of doing an overhead press in three different variations, two variations of lateral raise, two variations of front raise, and two variations of rear raise?!

I would like to hear anyone justify that.  And if you can't explain it, why would you do it?

I mean, do those three different overhead presses really serve a unique purpose?  Why not just do three times as many sets on one variation?

Why the hell do so many sets anyway?  I would be very surprised if, after that dropset from three plates on the seated overhead press, his delts weren't totally fried and numb.

Gotta hit all the angles brah!!
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: cephissus on April 27, 2011, 04:31:23 PM
Usually those types of workouts are very quick. Besides, what else is a bodybuilder going to do with his day?

That's a good point!  I actually thought of that but didn't type anything.

Still though, while I can understand doing a lot of sets on a lot of different exercises, at least make sure the exercises serve a different purpose!

"yeah i do decline bench then flat, then decline dumbells, flat dumbells.  i like to finish with some db flys, then power flys, then really kill it with the cable flys!" ::)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: chaos on April 27, 2011, 04:37:29 PM
That's a good point!  I actually thought of that but didn't type anything.

Still though, while I can understand doing a lot of sets on a lot of different exercises, at least make sure the exercises serve a different purpose!

"yeah i do decline bench then flat, then decline dumbells, flat dumbells.  i like to finish with some db flys, then power flys, then really kill it with the cable flys!" ::)
It's all about angles and feeling the muscle. Do DB presses feel the same as barbell presses to you? No, DBs come down to the side of the head barbells come down in front of the face. The theory is that the difference in those little angles and tweaks in exercises will help the muscle grow.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: cephissus on April 27, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
Yes it feels different.   Then again, any two reps of overhead press feel different.  How different does it feel?  Not much.  I could understand if you planned on doing three worksets for a muscle and wanted to distribute that across three different exercises to get a slightly larger range of stimulus than you would get from doing all three sets on the same exercise.  Not that its going to make a huge difference for the most part, but I can understand.  In fact, that's what I do.

But in this video, hide is doing four or more sets on three different nearly identical exercises.  What is the point?  After the first one, he's already warmed up and blasted -- he would need one, at most two light sets to get the feeling for the new exercise after switching to a work set.  It's kind of hard to tell, but it looks like he's just doing straight sets or a typical ramp up for each overhead press variant.  That seems totally pointless to me.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: musclecenter on April 28, 2011, 12:17:02 AM
13-17 sets you better be done with  amuscle group,,you dont need more than 13-17 sets ,,good sets per muscle group,,les for arms

naturals...it depends on fellas,,but more they train more they waist,,natural is mainly kitchen and training very veyr smart,,and very few do it ,,and even if do it you never look big,,you look either ripped and small when 6% or.....big and chunky/chubby ....or in most cases with fellas that seasonaly come into the gym ...skinny fat as you like to call it,,but if serious natural which not many around then you need to know everything you do to the t and youll never ever see 190 5-6% never fuckin ever not even if you are 5'11

gh15 approved
Mostly i agree your post as above.
For me 58,  now 20-30 sets for chest,shoulders & back.
15-25 sets for arms.
10-15 sets for legs now(due to leg’s surgery)

When I was young, I did more sets.
And as my 40 years training, NO 5-6% BODYFAT SUCH THING FOR NATURALS!
 Nowadays for a real natural bodybuilder, no matter how hard you traing & diet, you still CAN NOT WIN at any natural contest!!


   Musclecenter approved
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: D-bol on April 28, 2011, 12:49:39 AM
I was once 180 at 8% all natty, not even sups. And I didn't even diet that much - just clean food, but not overly strict...1-2 cheat meals a week too.

Yes, most likely nobody can be 220 at 6%, but many can be 6% at 175-180 range, imo...esp if been training regular and eating well from late teens...

But it does get harder to maintain that with age of course...
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 28, 2011, 12:59:59 AM
"this exercise is rateral laises, I do 4 sets, I do drop sets, from 40 to 20, no lest"

hahahaha classic

 ;D :-X
Just love doing dlop sets on rateral laises.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: dyslexic on April 28, 2011, 01:41:13 AM
You mean those pro bodybuilder really don't know any secrets?


Say it isn't so!


What will gh15 do?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: mass243 on April 28, 2011, 01:43:47 AM
Some guys just enjoy training and want to do many sets  :o
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 28, 2011, 01:53:05 AM
Gotta hit all the angles brah!!
Delts have 3, not 10 what generation Charles Glass may think
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: arce1988 on April 28, 2011, 09:20:04 AM
    :D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamagishi
Post by: Nails on April 28, 2011, 01:59:10 PM
how many total sets does Yamagishi do in this workout  ???