Trainer Certification

[DIVISION]

Actually, most of the guys I know...thought the way you did too.  Until they got tired of making other people.  Then when they realized what a huge clientele devoted only to them & how big referrals work, it was not hard to leave, & start up.

To each their own....personally...most people are too whiny for me & I hate babysitting & trying to coddle an adult into working out.

....Kind of like when you dated Amy.   

if you could impose respect via your demeanor and knowledge ( did i mention results?) , u wouldnt have to babysit

Don't anger him, Sevas....

He's an ex-marine and know to bite people at will.


DIV

[sgt. d]

the one that makes you 25,000 a year...oh wait thats both of them combined hahahahahahahahahaha

monster career.... its a part time job at best bro!!!!!!!!!

You dont even make 18,000 a year you skinny pathetic piece of shit

[knny187]

if you could impose respect via your demeanor and knowledge ( did i mention results?) , u wouldnt have to babysit

no...most American adults need pampering. 

Americans typically don't holf themselves accountable.  It's easier to point a finger than to take responsibility.

[DIVISION]

no...most American adults need pampering. 

Americans typically don't holf themselves accountable.  It's easier to point a finger than to take responsibility.

Reminds me of Amy.   




DIV

[knny187]

Reminds me of Amy.   




DIV

dude.... 

[Loomis]

I'm gathering that it doesn't matter which one that much asw long as you have some kind of Cert. So I guess going with an easy, inexpensive online one is my best bet. I heard from a friend who's a trainer that alot of gyms look for NASM now though.

[delta9mda]

NCSF- doing it now.

[DIVISION]

I'm gathering that it doesn't matter which one that much asw long as you have some kind of Cert. So I guess going with an easy, inexpensive online one is my best bet. I heard from a friend who's a trainer that alot of gyms look for NASM now though.

Just make sure ahead of time that it's the one they accept.



DIV

[jmt1]

i do some personal training part time...i have issa but no one has ever asked to see my certification...lol

i would choose issa over ace or affa.

[Cleanest Natural]

aslo...jaejonna..u might be shocked to find out that there are trainers out there ( a lot of them) that make 100k plus ? or well over 100k?...

[knny187]

aslo...jaejonna..u might be shocked to find out that there are trainers out there ( a lot of them) that make 100k plus ? or well over 100k?...

there is

I can think of 5-6 that I know of....but it took a few years to get established

[jmt1]

there is

I can think of 5-6 that I know of....but it took a few years to get established

and these are guys who own their own studio or work for a gym?

[knny187]

and these are guys who own their own studio or work for a gym?

good point....

the ones I know they work for themselves.


I know of guys making 6 figures in a club not their own studios.....& you can look no further to see that happening in Venice.

I doubt you'll ever see it in a place like 24hr, LA Fitness, Etc...

[efirkey]

NASM, I believe.

The more, the better.




DIV

Oh my god!  what movie as that avatar from?

[Richard2004]

OMG!!!

Knny187 with 16,362 posts and Div with 12,849 posts???! 

Guys, get a job(!)...get a life(!!)... hell, become a PT, or do SOMETHING WORTHWHILE, besides hangout and post on Getbig 24/7!!!

[240 is Back]

OMG!!!

Knny187 with 16,362 posts and Div with 12,849 posts???! 

Guys, get a job(!)...get a life(!!)... hell, become a PT, or do SOMETHING WORTHWHILE, besides hangout and post on Getbig 24/7!!!

Dude! I remember you.  monster schmoe, right?

[DragonsBreath]

240, (off topic). Do you still have that "Dear Stan" letter?

[240 is Back]

240, (off topic). Do you still have that "Dear Stan" letter?

the eminem knockoff one?

[DragonsBreath]

the eminem knockoff one?

Yeah! Stan McQuay seems to love that one. since he is back to his old self PM'imng people with threats of gang violence.

[Vince B]

I tried personally training the lads here on Getbig. I didn't charge a dime and no one listened. Monster self-owning!

Ray Mentzer used to laugh at everyone who thought they were personal trainers. They would get Ray or Mike to train them for a while then start up their own business. I am not proud of the people in my industry but it is better than in the old days. Personal trainers have to get insurance in Australia and they have to be qualified and take courses to keep their qualifications current. In the old days gym owners just started up a business and started training people. Let's face it, having a personal trainer is a status thing and that is why a few make a lot of money. As far as I am concerned it is a big wank. I guess if people want to waste money on instruction and they get some results that is their business.

I doubt some of those on line certificates are worth much. How on earth are you going to know how to train someone by taking a course over a couple of months. You need years of experience and study to be qualified as far as I am concerned. If you haven't built yourself up then you probably don't know much about that subject, either. Most of those certificates don't mean much. If you have a university degree in exercise science or exercise physiology then I would be impressed. If you built yourself up to the advanced level without gear you qualify for a hypertrophy certifcate through experience. You can't build yourself up to that level without a lot of knowledge. Well, you can but someone else has to be telling you what to do. If you have a university degree in exercise science and have won a state level natural title then you are about as good as you can get as a trainer and instructor.

[onlyme]

Certification is a joke.  Look at Goodrum.  He is certified (at least he says) and he doesn't lifts weights.  I find it amazing that someone can get cetified online and never been in a gym.  Being book smart does not do it in a real gym.  The surprising thing with me is people still almost everyday will ask me about training.  With the way I look right now I wouldn't ask nothing but where the best place to eat it is.  But, most people here know my past and know what I used to look like and do so they know my brain is still pretty good.

[Mr. Intenseone]

In the old days gym owners just started up a business and started training people. Let's face it, having a personal trainer is a status thing and that is why a few make a lot of money. As far as I am concerned it is a big wank. I guess if people want to waste money on instruction and they get some results that is their business.

How on earth are you going to know how to train someone by taking a course over a couple of months. You need years of experience and study to be qualified as far as I am concerned. If you haven't built yourself up then you probably don't know much about that subject, either. Most of those certificates don't mean much. If you have a university degree in exercise science or exercise physiology then I would be impressed. If you built yourself up to the advanced level without gear you qualify for a hypertrophy certifcate through experience. You can't build yourself up to that level without a lot of knowledge. Well, you can but someone else has to be telling you what to do. If you have a university degree in exercise science and have won a state level natural title then you are about as good as you can get as a trainer and instructor.

Vince, you, like 90% of the people on this board think that the only way to train is through "bodybuilding" methods and the fact remains is there are many many many more methods of training and the science and mechanics that goes into it. As an example, you cannot use bodybuilding methods to train athletes and visa versa, hell, there are so called "trainers" and know-it-alls on this board who actually think that there's no such thing as a stabilizer muscle. Vince, that last line in the above paragraph you wrote is the biggest piece of naive nonsence I ever read reguarding this subject with the exeption of the degree in exercise science..............the re is much, much more involved that you think!!

[Mr. Intenseone]

Certification is a joke.  Look at Goodrum.  He is certified (at least he says) and he doesn't lifts weights.  I find it amazing that someone can get cetified online and never been in a gym.  Being book smart does not do it in a real gym.  The surprising thing with me is people still almost everyday will ask me about training.  With the way I look right now I wouldn't ask nothing but where the best place to eat it is.  But, most people here know my past and know what I used to look like and do so they know my brain is still pretty good.

Your right about Vince, he is a joke, but there are ALOT of great trainers out there that don't look the part, you don't have to look the part to be a great trainer...........but it helps!

[Vince B]

Mr Intenseone. I presume that someone from Getbig will be interested in training bodybuilders or average people wanting to get bigger. The plain fact is the majority of people who come to a gym want to get firm and that is hypertrophy by another name.

I looked at a convention in fitness a few months ago and none of their offerings were about building muscle. Instead they have lectures on Pilates and all the other rubbish that fitness nuts like to do. I have never liked any of those things. We offer some of them at our gym but I take little interest in them.

So instructors are becoming specialists, too. That is fine. I don't expect a bodybuilder to be able to give an aqua aerobics class and vice versa. The point is these people come to us asking for a job when they wouldn't be able to instruct most of my members. I insist that good instructors should be able to help the big guys. I have yet to see a big guy with a personal trainer. The average person uses those trainers. Sometimes older guys love the attention of a young female trainer to get some attention.

I don't see much science going into training. People claim that just like they claim they all have 'fully equipped gyms'. There is no such thing as a fully equipped gym. I have machines no one else in the world has. How can they be fully equipped? So there persists a lot of nonsense and exaggerating in this industry.

The surprizing thing is a guy like Melvin Goodrum CSN MFT might, and I stress might, be a good instructor even if he can't demonstrate much hypertrophy or definition on stage. It certainly doesn't evoke much confidence when a guy shows up looking like a beginner when he is pontificating on the discussion boards.

The way the rules are set up now in Australia guys like me are not 'qualified' to instruct in gyms. Of course I am qualified to give those instructing the instructors some lectures. It is always a case of certain people setting up standards and including themselves and who they approve of and excluding others. I have been a PE teacher for 10 years but how does that qualify anyone to instruct in a gym? If may or may not depending on the courses taken at college.

The thing is, who sets the standards in this industry and on what criterion? Since most academics do not recognize bodybuilding they don't consider it important when designing programs for students who want to become instructors. Things are not getting any better as far as I am concerned. There are more courses available to gain credentials but too many are not sufficient to be called professional courses.

[gordiano]

Certification is a joke.  Look at Goodrum.  He is certified (at least he says) and he doesn't lifts weights.  I find it amazing that someone can get cetified online and never been in a gym.  Being book smart does not do it in a real gym.  The surprising thing with me is people still almost everyday will ask me about training.  With the way I look right now I wouldn't ask nothing but where the best place to eat it is.  But, most people here know my past and know what I used to look like and do so they know my brain is still pretty good.

Right.

ALL the trainers at my gym are CERTIFIED, and almost ALL are absolutely clueless...........