Author Topic: GH15 might want to look in to The Luke knowledge (Read 126024 times)

Danimal77 · « **Reply #200 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:18:09 PM »

Quote from: BigBuehl on April 03, 2010, 09:06:57 AM

OK I def believe these guys blow up their measurements and would guess that the biggest is 22" on stage. But easy guy.Ray Mentzer was 290 lean? Yeah right wheres the proof on that one? They lie about their weights too by the way. I would bet that Flex's arms were bigger in their appearance and their measurement than Dorians in '93. Wheres the article or vid of Flex saying his arms were 23" in his rookie year? Def later on when he pumped them up with synthol he was blowing up his measurements but that was '98 I am guessing

I also find this hilarious. This Luke guy wants to be taken seriously, yet he inflates people's height and weight like it's going out of style. 0 credibility and he keeps saying this guy's arms were measured at this or that. GUY, post links to it, or it doesn't exist.

Figo · « **Reply #201 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:27:30 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on April 03, 2010, 12:15:25 PM

Think Eddie Robinson was actually about 5'5'' (the 5'7'' number keeps coming up but I don't think he's taller than Lee Priest).

I believe he was 250 lbs when he had a genuine 20'' arm; he was also able to bench more than 500 lbs (even held the teen bench record).

Doesnt look much shorter than Bannout nor Nasser. I realize they are not standing up straight.

610lbs bench record in a meet

Danimal77 · « **Reply #202 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:29:42 PM »

Quote from: Figo on April 03, 2010, 07:23:34 AM

The Lukes arguments make sense and the math, well, not even going to attempt...

however, 2 things to take into account, are :

superior arm building genetics, much like mesmorph78's, and many pros

and

but no, kevin levrone, ronnie, etc did not have 23/24 inch arms contest shape. maybe ronnie had 23's offseason, maybe.

but, this guy here at 6'5" , almost 300lbs onstage, yes, he might have had 23 inch arms in contest shape. Anyone else? I doubdt it...

Big Louie was just over 6'4" and 318-320 pounds the day of the 1993 Mr. Olympia. At his largest, his arms were 23" PUMPED. When he was lighter, they stretched the tape at 21".

Figo · « **Reply #203 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:36:39 PM »

He was truly huge then. In his comeback.

The Luke · « **Reply #204 on:** April 03, 2010, 01:35:31 PM »

Quote from: Danimal77 on April 03, 2010, 12:29:42 PM

Big Louie was just over 6'4" and 318-320 pounds the day of the 1993 Mr. Olympia. At his largest, his arms were 23" PUMPED. When he was lighter, they stretched the tape at 21".

He CLAIMED to be 320 lbs for the '93 Olympia, Robert Kennedy claimed he was actually 280ish lbs.

He certainly didn't look 320 lbs.

No one ever verified his arm at 23'', but his arm was measured at 21'' around this time.

The Luke

TRIX · « **Reply #205 on:** April 03, 2010, 01:40:10 PM »

no way lou was 320 lbs... i just watched the video, he had no legs and synthol calves

The Luke · « **Reply #206 on:** April 03, 2010, 02:39:50 PM »

Quote from: Danimal77 on April 03, 2010, 12:18:09 PM

I also find this hilarious. This Luke guy wants to be taken seriously, yet he inflates people's height and weight like it's going out of style. 0 credibility and he keeps saying this guy's arms were measured at this or that. GUY, post links to it, or it doesn't exist.

Vince Basile (I think) put up pictures of Ray Mentzer at 280-290 lbs... he stayed at Vince's house in the 80s.

The Luke

PJim · « **Reply #207 on:** April 05, 2010, 07:07:34 PM »

Quote from: The Luke on April 03, 2010, 02:39:50 PM

Vince Basile (I think) put up pictures of Ray Mentzer at 280-290 lbs... he stayed at Vince's house in the 80s.

The Luke

link?

Harry Spotter · « **Reply #208 on:** April 05, 2010, 10:26:46 PM »

You're wasting your time with some of these delusional clowns, the Luke

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Ronnie has 4 inches in upper arm circumference on Sergio, mesomorph and 1/2 of getbig.

Figo · « **Reply #209 on:** April 10, 2010, 10:14:32 AM »

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #210 on:** April 10, 2010, 10:45:03 AM »

Quote from: Figo on April 10, 2010, 10:14:32 AM

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Sergio and Casey both had tremendous full length biceps and triceps. Arthur Jones stated Sergio had the biggest arms ever measured at the time I think it still holds true.

Figo · « **Reply #211 on:** April 10, 2010, 10:50:51 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2010, 10:45:03 AM

Sergio and Casey both had tremendous full length biceps and triceps. Arthur Jones stated Sergio had the biggest arms ever measured at the time I think it still holds true.

the freakiest thing is, Casey was 19 at the time!

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #212 on:** April 10, 2010, 11:00:36 AM »

Quote from: Figo on April 10, 2010, 10:50:51 AM

the freakiest thing is, Casey was 19 at the time!

Yep problem is he never got bigger I guess he should have stayed with Arthur Jones.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #213 on:** April 10, 2010, 11:07:25 AM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2010, 10:45:03 AM

Sergio and Casey both had tremendous full length biceps and triceps. Arthur Jones stated Sergio had the biggest arms ever measured at the time I think it still holds true.

good peak

Kwon · « **Reply #214 on:** April 10, 2010, 11:49:39 AM »

Quote from: The Luke on April 03, 2010, 12:15:25 PM

A lot of the reason why smaller/shorter guys (such as Eddie Robinson and Lee Priest) can have such large arms is because they're usually not really short guys: they're tall or average height guys who have been stunted somewhat: and end up with average/tall muscle architecture on shortened limbs... long torsos are a very obvious symptom of this. Whereas naturally small/short guys like Lee Labrada and Danny Padilla have a much more proportionate build.

The Luke

Uhh what? Lee P always been short.

hazbin · « **Reply #215 on:** April 10, 2010, 11:59:51 AM »

Quote from: Kwon on April 10, 2010, 11:49:39 AM

Uhh what? Lee P always been short.

a stab in the dark, but what i think he means is - when androgens are used before height is matured, the epiphyseal (sp?) bone growth plates fuse. this stunts the skeletal growth. so a man that may have been 6 feet tall could be permanently stunted to 5 feet 3 inches. you are born with a certain number of muscle fibers (save the hyperplasia argument). so a frame that should have been 6 ft ends up much shorter, but with all the muscle the six foot frame would have held. this is why all the communist gymnasts were sub-5 feet with incredible power to weight ratios.

French · « **Reply #216 on:** April 10, 2010, 12:18:18 PM »

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #217 on:** April 10, 2010, 12:19:03 PM »

Quote from: French on April 10, 2010, 12:18:18 PM

All the way a big dude.

The Luke · « **Reply #218 on:** April 10, 2010, 12:23:48 PM »

Quote from: hazbin on April 10, 2010, 11:59:51 AM

a stab in the dark, but what i think he means is - when androgens are used before height is matured, the epiphyseal (sp?) bone growth plates fuse. this stunts the skeletal growth. so a man that may have been 6 feet tall could be permanently stunted to 5 feet 3 inches. you are born with a certain number of muscle fibers (save the hyperplasia argument). so a frame that should have been 6 ft ends up much shorter, but with all the muscle the six foot frame would have held. this is why all the communist gymnasts were sub-5 feet with incredible power to weight ratios.

...better explained than I articulated it. Thanks.

The Luke

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #219 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:02:26 PM »

Quote from: French on April 10, 2010, 12:18:18 PM

big arms but damn is that shirt tight

Hulkster · « **Reply #220 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:15:52 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on March 31, 2010, 01:31:39 PM

Neither one is standing straight up in the MM, so it's difficult to judge their height. They look to be about the same height in all the pics you posted to me. How tall is KL? Ronnie? Aren't they both around 5'10? Here's another MM comparison of he and RC. Both have great arms.

based on the pics from 98/99 it looks like Levrone's arms might have been a bit larger.

the difference of course, though in quality was signficant.

ronnie's arms absolutely blew kevin's off the map:

Kevin's were so puffy and smooth by that point they looked terrible in comparison:

JOCKTHEGLIDE · « **Reply #221 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:23:01 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 10, 2010, 01:02:26 PM

big arms but damn is that shirt tight

YEAH OK,,,,XSMALL

body88 · « **Reply #222 on:** April 10, 2010, 01:33:20 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 03, 2010, 10:41:38 AM

I can live with you or anyone else thinking I'm a shittalker

Meso, you're lying and you've been telling the same lie for two years. You've posted several videos and pictures of yourself, yet you refuse to confirm your claims. We all know that you are full of shit and it's pretty sad that you are not man enough to admit it.

French · « **Reply #223 on:** April 10, 2010, 02:20:40 PM »

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #224 on:** April 10, 2010, 02:26:13 PM »

Quote from: body88 on April 10, 2010, 01:33:20 PM

Meso, you're lying and you've been telling the same lie for two years. You've posted several videos and pictures of yourself, yet you refuse to confirm your claims. We all know that you are full of shit and it's pretty sad that you are not man enough to admit it.

yawn

Hulkster thanks for postin up those pics ronnie blows him away ronnie greatest arm of Ll time