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I don't remember this beeing on my version of pumping iron, they must have cut it out.
start watching at 7.50 ;D
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I don't remember this beeing on my version of pumping iron, they must have cut it out.
start watching at 7.50 ;D
I have that on mine , and Arnold bought the right to Pumping Iron there is a lot of shit he didn't release on the DVD apparently because it makes him look bad
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who cares about this old fart...he made an entire career because he took little pink pills from Tailand and nobody knew, without them where the fuck would he be....serious question?
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who cares about this old fart...he made an entire career because he took little pink pills from Tailand and nobody knew, without them where the fuck would he be....serious question?
Arnold is a type A personality , he would've been successful in any field , he was already doing well before he was a movie star
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Arnold is a type A personality , he would've been successful in any field , he was already doing well before he was a movie star
Agreed, hating on Arnold is nothing but pure jealousy and envy. Lets see any of you move to a different country, and become an international star. The guys the best ever, period.
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Agreed, hating on Arnold is nothing but pure jealousy and envy. Lets see any of you move to a different country, and become an international star. The guys the best ever, period.
QFT
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Agreed, hating on Arnold is nothing but pure jealousy and envy. Lets see any of you move to a different country, and become an international star. The guys the best ever, period.
He is a pretty shitty Governor though.
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who cares about this old fart...he made an entire career because he took little pink pills from Tailand and nobody knew, without them where the fuck would he be....serious question?
He would be in austria selling shoes or something.
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
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He would be in austria selling shoes or something.
exactly.....and why doesnt anyone have a copy of the Ken Sprague gay porno movie "California Bodybuilders" with Arnold posing in the beginning? where did all the copies go?
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exactly.....and why doesnt anyone have a copy of the Ken Sprague gay porno movie "California Bodybuilders" with Arnold posing in the beginning? where did all the copies go?
They're under my bed.
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They're under my bed.
we'll send me a copy :D I saw it years ago and didnt know all the copies would all be burned. Didnt see the copy with Arnold in it, or maybe I just fast forwarded over it...to the good stuff...
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That guy standing around at the front desk laughing ..seems retarded.
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
Did Arnold reject your passes? You sound like a bitter, rejected wanna-be lover. :-\
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He is a pretty shitty Governor though.
Maybe, but the people who voted him in did so for a reason. My point is this: Arnold is a champion. He has "it" and if he was in Austria selling shoes, he would probably have the highest shoe sale rate in history. Hating on someone for no reason (or cutting them down when they have done nothing to you) is just an attempt for those to feel better about their own insecurities or failures.
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
Is this because he wont let you sell pro hormones at his show? If so, and you go to his show, he is owning you all the way to the bank. Not only do you hate him, but you still have to pay him. Ouch.
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Maybe, but the people who voted him in did so for a reason. My point is this: Arnold is a champion. He has "it" and if he was in Austria selling shoes, he would probably have the highest shoe sale rate in history. Hating on someone for no reason (or cutting them down when they have done nothing to you) is just an attempt for those to feel better about their own insecurities or failures.
I agree. I'm just saying he had some luck and found his niche but not everything he touches turns to gold.
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
Maybe he wouldn't be a movie star or a politician but he would have been successful regardless , the guy has unmatched motivation , drive and focus , he's a winner .
Arnold is popular because he's the rags to riches story , what he achieved is really amazing both in bodybuilding , business and in life , apparently he's an asshole , would sell out his own mother to get what he wanted , treated people like assholes from that standpoint he's not to be admired but with Arnold's charisma tended to make people gloss over his faults
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Arnold made his first million away from bodybuilding, acting or politics via business in real estate i believe.
so yea he really needed pink pills and a physique for that. ::)
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Did Arnold reject your passes? You sound like a bitter, rejected wanna-be lover. :-\
no chaos, I just think people are so easily charmed by him, and dont see that he is all flash and in the beginning all drugs...he hasnt really done anything, the people around him made him famous, they cast him at first because they were making fun of him then capitalized on his goofy delivery...he didnt orchestrate that, he had nothing to do with that, never took an acting class in his life..he is all personality all flufff. THe Republicans are calling all the shots as well...he is a populist governor, just doing popular things until he gets out...but California is still in the shitter, southern california is corrupt and overdeveloped and the coastline is ruined forever...
ARnold rise to fame is no different thatn any bimbo that uses fake boobs and sex to get ahead...he did the same things,,took steroids, got attention and used that to get in the door,,,no different than the women who sell their bodies or get fake implants....he found his edge...I just dont think it is so amazing and honorable.
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no chaos, I just think people are so easily charmed by him, and dont see that he is all flash and in the beginning all drugs...he hasnt really done anything, the people around him made him famous, they cast him at first because they were making fun of him then capitalized on his goofy delivery...he didnt orchestrate that, he had nothing to do with that, never took an acting class in his life..he is all personality all flufff. THe Republicans are calling all the shots as well...he is a populist governor, just doing popular things until he gets out...but California is still in the shitter, southern california is corrupt and overdeveloped and the coastline is ruined forever...
I take it there are "things?" ???
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I take it there are "things?" ???
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hahah, yes and I added more :D
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we'll send me a copy :D I saw it years ago and didnt know all the copies would all be burned. Didnt see the copy with Arnold in it, or maybe I just fast forwarded over it...to the good stuff...
LOL. Gay or straight: foreplay's only for chicks. ;D
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no chaos, I just think people are so easily charmed by him, and dont see that he is all flash and in the beginning all drugs...he hasnt really done anything, the people around him made him famous, they cast him at first because they were making fun of him then capitalized on his goofy delivery...he didnt orchestrate that, he had nothing to do with that, never took an acting class in his life..he is all personality all flufff. THe Republicans are calling all the shots as well...he is a populist governor, just doing popular things until he gets out...but California is still in the shitter, southern california is corrupt and overdeveloped and the coastline is ruined forever...
That's part of Arnold's allure he's very charming and charismatic ( like Bill Clinton ) did steroids make Arnold Schwarzenegger? NO they helped but Arnold is Arnold , many good looking guys with great physiques invade Hollywood 99% of them don't succeed this is what separates Arnold from all others
love him or hate em he's a winner
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I like Arnold as much as the next bodybuilding fan but the adoration seems to go a bit far.
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ARnold rise to fame is no different thatn any bimbo that uses fake boobs and sex to get ahead...he did the same things,,took steroids, got attention and used that to get in the door,,,no different than the women who sell their bodies or get fake implants....he found his edge...I just dont think it is so amazing and honorable.
That's an oversimplification many beautiful women with big boobs think they're going to make it 99% fail for what ever reasons
Arnold said he would be a movie star and he backed it up , he would do whatever it takes to accomplish his goals both good & bad , he came from NO WHERE , Big Austrian with a heavy German accent came from a village in the middle of no where Austria to become one of the highest grossing movie stars in history , then Governor , etc that's damn amazing
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Arnold has an alpha male personality. I wouldn't expect some queer like nycbull to understand that.
Arnold is the type of guy that gets others to gravitate around him. CEO's, big time politicians, successful entrepreneurs all have this ability.
ARnold rise to fame is no different thatn any bimbo that uses fake boobs and sex to get ahead...he did the same things,,took steroids, got attention and used that to get in the door,,,no different than the women who sell their bodies or get fake implants....he found his edge...I just dont think it is so amazing and honorable.
You are an imbecile and come off as very insecure. Arnold didn't use cosmetics to build a successful brick company in California, nor did he use dinabol to become a good investor.
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nycbull, you man have some serious Arnold issues. :(
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Arnold has an alpha male personality. I wouldn't expect some queer like nycbull to understand that.
Arnold is the type of guy that gets others to gravitate around him. CEO's, big time politicians, successful entrepreneurs all have this ability.
You are an imbecile and come off as very insecure. Arnold didn't use cosmetics to build a successful brick company in California, nor did he use dinabol to become a good investor.
haha, whats this brick company bullshit, he had no income records, thats all fabricated bullshit so he could run for Govenor...hahah, yea like he knows how to lay brick, maybe pose for gay guys but brick,,he is not Italian.. Yea Arnold is a type A and an alpha male and all that, yea he would not be starving but face it, he fooled the country...HE MADE THEM BELIEVE HIS BODY WAS FROM HARD WORK AND THAT THEY COULD DO IT TOO....AMERICANS believed it, he lied. plain and simple....THAT WAS his edge, that was is out and his in, he is no hero.
This is a DAVID MAMET play theme...Mamet believes that nobody can really achieve the AMerican Dream without doing something corrupupt.without pulling a con.....Arnolds con was he didnt tell the truth about how he sculpted his body...the public loved him...so was it wrong to do...Is it OK to achieve the American Dream, capitalism prosperity by a little con here and there...no real harm done right? Sales people do it all the time...they do it all the time on Madison Avenue, sellling you lies....So you guys think its OK i guess...How are you guys going to get the AMerican Dream?
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I don't remember this beeing on my version of pumping iron, they must have cut it out.
start watching at 7.50 ;D
Hey, why dont you guys wear those short shorts...they look great....The rumours of MIke Katz being gay dont look so far off in that scene..could his shorts be any smaller?..
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
so by your theory:
anyone + dbol = mr olympia 7 times, movie star, governor.
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haha, whats this brick company bullshit, he had no income records, thats all fabricated bullshit so he could run for Govenor...hahah, yea like he knows how to lay brick, maybe pose for gay guys but brick,,he is not Italian..
Because I'm white doesn't mean I can't drive my car fast...that's for Italians too, right? ::)
He was also friends with Franco- an Italian- maybe in trade for BBing advice, Franco gave Arnold bricklaying "advices."
...HE MADE THEM BELIEVE HIS BODY WAS FROM HARD WORK AND THAT THEY COULD DO IT TOO....AMERICANS believed it, he lied. plain and simple....THAT WAS his edge, that was is out and his in, he is no hero.
What's the issue? Do you not see that, even after taking steroids, he was extremely successful in real estate tycoon, and governor. What in the world do steroids have to do with either of those? You're trying to make something relevant, that's not. Like selling a chainsaw to an 80yr old woman to iron her shirts. Steroids did not keep him there, maybe helped him get there....but I'm sure you're an angel that's earned everything, never even sped on the highway...your past is crystal clear, ain't it?
You have issues.
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so by your theory:
anyone + dbol = mr olympia 7 times, movie star, governor.
no because Arnold had time on his side...the public knew nothing about steroids at the time and easy to get. He also got lucky, met the right people who used him to sell to the public..I dont think his talent got him any acting parts....He has personality and charm I give you that, but even that isnt so earth shattering...I mean is it really charming to here him on Jay Leno talk about his acting talent..."gee, I got soo into de karicter of Mr. Freeze..I waz still in da kadicter when i got hoome.." oh brother...Rober DeNiro doesnt talk about acting as much as Arnold did.
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I don't remember this beeing on my version of pumping iron, they must have cut it out.
start watching at 7.50 ;D
That scene has ALWAYS been in Pumping Iron. Damn, you got ripped off. :D
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Arnold bought the right to Pumping Iron
Back in 1991 from George Butler and locked the 90+ hours of footage never to be seen again. :'(
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The guys the best ever, period.
Well said. ;D
And what the hell is QFT? ???
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Because I'm white doesn't mean I can't drive my car fast...that's for Italians too, right? ::)
He was also friends with Franco- an Italian- maybe in trade for BBing advice, Franco gave Arnold bricklaying "advices."
What's the issue? Do you not see that, even after taking steroids, he was extremely successful in real estate tycoon, and governor. What in the world do steroids have to do with either of those? You're trying to make something relevant, that's not. Like selling a chainsaw to an 80yr old woman to iron her shirts. Steroids did not keep him there, maybe helped him get there....but I'm sure you're an angel that's earned everything, never even sped on the highway...your past is crystal clear, ain't it?
You have issues.
ah ha...so you admit that he got in the door with those tiny pink pills and it is OK to do something not so on the up and up as long as it gets you where your going....lets just be clear about this now...So what have you done or plan to do that will give you the edge, get you the American dream? let us decide if it is ok or if it is a crime?
you are right more people do it than you think, there are very few people that achieve the American dream without doing something corrupt, all lawyers are corrupt, all CEO's are corrupt, all salespeople are corrupt and even doctors are corrupt as they are lined with the insurance companies....nobody can really get ahead without doing something corrupt, pulling a con...have I?, well thats none of your business, will I?, I dont know...never said I was a saint,,, but I also dont expect people to worship me on message boards as some kind of hero.
and moreso...my premise is that Arnold would not be anywhere he is today without those pink little pills...and remember the pills give you more than muscle, they give you aggression, energy, a high, even personality...so that played in his added ability to socialize and sexualize with the right people and get the ball moving even faster...true story.
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Well said. ;D
And what the hell is QFT? ???
QFT = Quoted for truth
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QFT = Quoted for truth
Gotcha. Thanks, ND.
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blah blah blah I can't answer anything posed upon me in a logical manner. I'm a big baby.
Fixed.
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Arnold is a type A personality , he would've been successful in any field , he was already doing well before he was a movie star
Bullshit, it's all speculation. Plenty of type As don't have his career. In reality, without BB and hormones the rest doesn't happen. He had a lot of opportunity that most don't get.
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Bullshit, it's all speculation. Plenty of type As don't have his career. In reality, without BB and hormones the rest doesn't happen. He had a lot of opportunity that most don't get.
All the bottom feeders in the business world say the same things over and over:
"So and so is only successful because they got x....and if I got x I would be that successful to" ::)
Nope, they are just underachieving excuse makers. Winners win, losers make excuses. Arnold is a winner, period. Everyone gets opportunities, it's the people who maximize those opportunities that do well. It could be as simple as working hard in school and getting the opportunity to go to college for free on an academic scholarship. Taking that opportunity and maximizing an internship offer. Taking that opportunity and turning it in to a full time job...and then doing big thing in your field. It's all about vision, networking and drive. Arnold has that. Lots of people take steriods and compete, but lots of people don't do what Arnold did. Why is Ronnie Coleman not starting a film career right now?
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who cares about this old fart...he made an entire career because he took little pink pills from Tailand and nobody knew, without them where the fuck would he be....serious question?
??? ::)
luckily he did what he did or he would be like you on an internet board ragging on someone who is one million times more successful, famous and is admired by millions. Can we say JEALOUSLY?
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
so go take some dbol and rule the world! what's stopping you??
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He is a pretty shitty Governor though.
HE IS TYPE A,,,REMEMBER THAT ::)
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Bullshit, it's all speculation. Plenty of type As don't have his career. In reality, without BB and hormones the rest doesn't happen. He had a lot of opportunity that most don't get.
99.9% of people don't have his career type A or not , did drugs help him? absolutely ...did drugs make him? absolutely not. plenty of other bodybuilders thought they were going to follow the path he paved , where are they all? how many muscular bodybuilders thought they were going to make it big Hollywood? how many succeeded ? Arnold did get a lot of opportunities and he made the most of them the physique and looks will only get one so far , what they do after that is up to them
Why isn't Gunter Schlierkamp as successful as Arnold? almost the same story , he's been given may opportunities and yet why isn't he a carbon copy of Arnold? or Ferrigno ? at the end of the day you need more than a nice smile and big muscles despite all your attempts to reduce Arnold he's more than what you make him out to be.
Arnold made his own opportunities
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All the bottom feeders in the business world say the same things over and over:
"So and so is only successful because they got x....and if I got x I would be that successful to" ::)
Nope, they are just underachieving excuse makers. Winners win, losers make excuses. Arnold is a winner, period. Everyone gets opportunities, it's the people who maximize those opportunities that do well. It could be as simple as working hard in school and getting the opportunity to go to college for free on an academic scholarship. Taking that opportunity and maximizing an internship offer. Taking that opportunity and turning it in to a full time job...and then doing big thing in your field. It's all about vision, networking and drive. Arnold has that. Lots of people take steriods and compete, but lots of people don't do what Arnold did. Why is Ronnie Coleman not starting a film career right now?
Great post
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That scene has ALWAYS been in Pumping Iron. Damn, you got ripped off. :D
I must have remembered wrong then...will look for it
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remember when Roland Kickenger broke onto the scene? they called him the second coming of Arnold. he got a bigger push, acting classes, publicity. he even played Arnold in a Bio. where is he now? he took steroids and the powers liked him and gave him a big push. he should at least be Governor of Iowa?? he should have had a couple best selling books. he should have at least married into the Bush or Clinton family. he should own a few million in real estate. he should have a few of his own charities and fitness conventions.
Roland musta got FAKE DBOL!!!!!
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yea right, like he would have been a movie star and a governor without the dbal...you guys are shittin me...yea he was ambitious and he is probably smart but that doesnt make a movie star and a governor...he got in with the right people because of his muscles, his looks, thats it...he wouldnt have any of those connections without the muscles....he got the movie parts because of his muscles, take away the pink pills and his life would have been a shell of what it is. He could not have what he has without those pink pills....
It amazes me to see people worship this guy, he is from a generation that had freedom that we will never see, his generation lived with little regulations or laws (including laws against pink pills), ate up everything, stole everythiong, developed the land to destruction, and then locked it all by making laws and regulations...and people worship these guys.
That's funny because everything I've read concerning Arnold and his movie career stated that his muscles quite certainly HURT his career. It made it impossible for him to be taken seriously. Nobody wanted to cast him. Then of course he helped re-invent the action wheel........and I'm SURE all any of us would need is a few pink pills and we would have reached the level of success that he has as well. Moron.
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remember when Roland Kickenger broke onto the scene? they called him the second coming of Arnold.
(http://vintagemusclemags.com/magCovers/im/im5305.jpg)
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He even used Arnold's Exodus theme...
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nycbull has some good points.
and despite the bs that you can get anywhere in life if you just 'work hard' enough ( ::)), the fact is is that what seperates those in the highest places from the hordes of others who have the same exact qualities and potential is that they indeed DID get alot of breaks and luck along the way, being in the right place at the right time.
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nycbull has some good points.
and despite the bs that you can get anywhere in life if you just 'work hard' enough ( ::)), the fact is is that what seperates those in the highest places from the hordes of others who have the same exact qualities and potential is that they indeed DID get alot of breaks and luck along the way, being in the right place at the right time.
Arnold stated in the 80's "luck can get you to the top but it won't keep you there."
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nycbull has some good points.
and despite the bs that you can get anywhere in life if you just 'work hard' enough ( ::)), the fact is is that what seperates those in the highest places from the hordes of others who have the same exact qualities and potential is that they indeed DID get alot of breaks and luck along the way, being in the right place at the right time.
I don't agree. What separates those who have potential and skill from the people with the same skills in the highest places, is the fact that the people in the highest places maximize their opportunities, while others tell themselves "they can't do it" or "it's to risky". Most of the time people like that are just to lazy to go above and beyond. Sure some people are born into great situations, but the successful ones strive to follow their dreams. I know many a trust fund baby that are total failure at life. maybe they are rich due to luck, but from a performance standpoint and from a career standpoint they are garbage. Who wants to be thought of like that?
My brother is a perfect example of this. The guy is an extremely talented artist. His work is awesome. Instead of maximizing his potential, and soaring with his strengths, he chooses to work his 9-5 because art is "to risky" and he has "other things to do". Why not pursue his art career in his spare times on the weekends - instead of sitting around pulling his pud? Thats what separates the winners from the people with the same talent and skill.....they have the drive and the will to soar with the strengths.
To claim Arnold is what he is due to his breaks and d-bol is laughable. Look at pro bb's today. The most successful of them couldn't hold a candle to Arnold's money or power. Imagine doing what Arnold did 30 years ago when no one even knew what bb was, nevermind coming over from a foreign country with a little money from some schmoe.
If what Arnold did was so easy, why has no one in the BB industry even done 1/10th of what he has? Knowing how to maximize your opportunity and how to befriend the correct people to get ahead is a skill. Do you know how many people I am friends with that I hate? From a growth standpoint, it's important to know who to invest time with and who to steer clear off. Then when that person gives you your shot, you drop the hammer on whatever you do best and you kick ass. Thats how you win. Skill, smarts, relationships, vision, drive and the ability to take risks. The average worker is perfectly happy putting in 40% effort to get buy and being lazy as fuck.
I know plenty of winners who are not rich nor famous....but they are very happy, they do what they love well and they have successful relationships with other people.
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My brother is a perfect example of this. The guy is an extremely talented artist. His work is awesome. Instead of maximizing his potential, and soaring with his strengths, he chooses to work his 9-5 because art is "to risky" and he has "other things to do". Why not pursue his art career in his spare times on the weekends - instead of sitting around pulling his pud? Thats what separates the winners from the people with the same talent and skill.....they have the drive and the will to soar with the strengths.
your not quite getting my point; for example, there are many artists as talented as your brother who DO HAVE the drive and all th necesary traits to be successful but still are not, simply because they are not in the right place at the right time.
this is why many of those considered the great masters today were completely unrecognised during their life but now are appreciated, while others today simply splash paint on a canvas, or paint the whole thing solid red-things ANYONE can do- and make millions.
another great example to use is famous musicians. for every great rock guitarist/band you know of, there were literally thousands of others who had the same skill, drive, talent, motivation etc. (today youtube allows us to see proof of this) who were vastly talented, worked as hard as possible, but never got 'a big break'.
certainly one must have the necessary traits to get to the top, but i believe there are many other factors -namely luck(being in the right place at the right time, knowing the right people, etc)-that are vastly underacknowledged(understandably so) that are responsible for one such individual attaining a high status in place of the many who had equal traits.
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lets talk bout this "brick company" arnold had??? was that real or lies? any evidence at all
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there are pictures somewhere of Arnold and Franco at work as bricklayers.
Some info about Arnolds business ventures:
Business career
Schwarzenegger has also had a highly successful business career. Following his move to the United States, Schwarzenegger became a "prolific goal setter" and would write his objectives at the start of the year on index cards, like starting a mail order business or buying a new car – and succeed in doing so. By the age of 30, Schwarzenegger was a millionaire, well before his career in Hollywood. His financial independence came from a series of successful business ventures and investments. In 1968, Schwarzenegger and fellow bodybuilder Franco Columbu started a bricklaying business. The business flourished thanks to the pair's marketing savvy and an increased demand following a major Los Angeles earthquake in 1971. Schwarzenegger and Columbu used profits from their bricklaying venture to start a mail order business, selling bodybuilding and fitness-related equipment and instructional tapes. Schwarzenegger rolled profits from the mail order business and his bodybuilding competition winnings into his first real estate venture: an apartment building he purchased for $10,000. He would go on to invest in a number of real estate holding companies. In 1992, Schwarzenegger and his wife opened a restaurant in Santa Monica called Schatzi On Main. Schatzi literally means "little treasure," colloquial for "honey" or "darling" in German. In 1998, he sold his restaurant. He invested in a shopping mall in Columbus, Ohio. He has talked about some of those who have helped him over the years in business: "I couldn't have learned about business without a parade of teachers guiding me... from Milton Friedman to Donald Trump... and now, Les Wexner and Warren Buffett. I even learned a thing or two from Planet Hollywood, such as when to get out! And I did!" He has significant ownership in Dimensional Fund Advisors, an investment firm.
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there are pictures somewhere of Arnold and Franco at work as bricklayers.
Some info about Arnolds business ventures:
Business career
Schwarzenegger has also had a highly successful business career. Following his move to the United States, Schwarzenegger became a "prolific goal setter" and would write his objectives at the start of the year on index cards, like starting a mail order business or buying a new car – and succeed in doing so. By the age of 30, Schwarzenegger was a millionaire, well before his career in Hollywood. His financial independence came from a series of successful business ventures and investments. In 1968, Schwarzenegger and fellow bodybuilder Franco Columbu started a bricklaying business. The business flourished thanks to the pair's marketing savvy and an increased demand following a major Los Angeles earthquake in 1971. Schwarzenegger and Columbu used profits from their bricklaying venture to start a mail order business, selling bodybuilding and fitness-related equipment and instructional tapes. Schwarzenegger rolled profits from the mail order business and his bodybuilding competition winnings into his first real estate venture: an apartment building he purchased for $10,000. He would go on to invest in a number of real estate holding companies. In 1992, Schwarzenegger and his wife opened a restaurant in Santa Monica called Schatzi On Main. Schatzi literally means "little treasure," colloquial for "honey" or "darling" in German. In 1998, he sold his restaurant. He invested in a shopping mall in Columbus, Ohio. He has talked about some of those who have helped him over the years in business: "I couldn't have learned about business without a parade of teachers guiding me... from Milton Friedman to Donald Trump... and now, Les Wexner and Warren Buffett. I even learned a thing or two from Planet Hollywood, such as when to get out! And I did!" He has significant ownership in Dimensional Fund Advisors, an investment firm.
fro some reason i dont beleive in the brick company, has he ever mentioned it??
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Arnold never took pink pills. His were the original "Robin's Egg Blue" 5 mg Dianabol, made by Ciba-Giegy.
They were very pretty.
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fro some reason i dont beleive in the brick company, has he ever mentioned it??
i've got a mid nineties muscle and fitness that talked about it. it shows pics of Arnold and franco working.
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Let's not forget that Wieder brought Arnold over here, and basically he worked out, tanned and competed. Because he didn't have to work for a living like Sergio, Arnold had time to focus on other ventures. He knew, or had the foresight to know that he couldn't do bodybuilding forever. Whereas, Sergio again, kept competing and didn't maximize his potential. hell, the man was called "The Myth"
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Let's not forget that Wieder brought Arnold over here, and basically he worked out, tanned and competed. Because he didn't have to work for a living like Sergio, Arnold had time to focus on other ventures. He knew, or had the foresight to know that he couldn't do bodybuilding forever. Whereas, Sergio again, kept competing and didn't maximize his potential. hell, the man was called "The Myth"
Are you fuckin' kidding me?!
1972!
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Let's not forget that Wieder brought Arnold over here, and basically he worked out, tanned and competed. Because he didn't have to work for a living like Sergio, Arnold had time to focus on other ventures. He knew, or had the foresight to know that he couldn't do bodybuilding forever. Whereas, Sergio again, kept competing and didn't maximize his potential. hell, the man was called "The Myth"
in the seventies Arnold called the Amerecans - Zane, Waller etc. paper champions, because they would workout and go to the beach. Arnold said he worked, invested and studied for school, while they did nothing but bodybuild.
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in the seventies Arnold called the Amerecans - Zane, Waller etc. paper champions
Muscle Builder/Power October 1970. ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1532.jpg)
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Yes its in every version I've seen even the anniversary version.
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Muscle Builder/Power October 1970. ;D
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w142/Flex2000/IMG_1532.jpg)
good call Pollux, i thought it was paper tigers, but wasn't sure. i think he got along great with the American guys until Franco showed up and then dissed them.
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arnold started a bricklaying business with franco to repair peoples houses after a bad hurricane or storm i can't remember and they ended up getting so much business because there were no businesses in the area with a bricklaying speciality and many houses were damaged. in addition to this they charged high prices to wealthy people for work that was relatively cheap and not all that time consuming. this is why it was very profitable and they had more orders than they could fill.
i read it in a biography about him.
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arnold started a bricklaying business with franco
I've always questioned this so-called bricklaying business.
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arnold started a bricklaying business with franco to repair peoples houses after a bad hurricane or storm i can't remember and they ended up getting so much business because there were no businesses in the area with a bricklaying speciality and many houses were damaged. in addition to this they charged high prices to wealthy people for work that was relatively cheap and not all that time consuming. this is why it was very profitable and they had more orders than they could fill.
i read it in a biography about him.
he said they did all the quotes in metric and no one understood, so they got away charging more. and he would run off to the bank and cash the check while Franco started the job so that "no one could pull a trick on us".
he also talked about an inspector asking if they had a permit. they asked what that was. a job number he replied. Arnold said "sure we got lotsa numbers!!" they didn't know what the inspector was talking about.
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2 words made arnold,joe weider
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I've always questioned this so-called bricklaying business.
No doubt. It's hard to believe regulations would have been so much more lax in his day that anyone could just walk in and do the job without any sort of trade certificate, building license or registration, permits, insurances, union ties, etc. At least some of today's legislation would have been in place in Arnold's day. Also, bricklayers might not be the brightest bulbs on the whole but it is still a trade which requires a four year apprenticeship. An inexperienced hand would botch the job for sure, especially on something as involved as rectification/renovation.
Maybe it was a front for something else.
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No doubt. It's hard to believe regulations would have been so much more lax in his day that anyone could just walk in and do the job without any sort of trade certificate, building license or registration, permits, insurances, union ties, etc. At least some of today's legislation would have been in place in Arnold's day. Also, bricklayers might not be the brightest bulbs on the whole but it is still a trade which requires a four year apprenticeship. An inexperienced hand would botch the job for sure, especially on something as involved as rectification/renovation.
Maybe it was a front for something else.
Not so much that, but I have been an Arnold fan for many years and have seen countless pictures of Arnold and have NEVER seen not one candid picture of he and Franco actually doing bricklaying work/business.
As much as Arnold was photographed by Art Zeller, Albert Busek, and the likes you would think at least one picture would've surfaced. Hell, even in Barbara Outland's memoir book Arnold and Me she never mentions Arnold doing any such work with Franco.
I tend to believe this so-called bricklaying work they did is one of those folk stories that just got passed along and Arnold just runs with it.
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he were talking about it in a 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness, April.
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he were talking about it in a 1984 issue of Muscle and Fitness, April.
sounds like more arnold lies
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sounds like more arnold lies
i agree!! the fukker probably isn't even Governer. it's probably just publicity Joe Weider trumped up to help him in his bodybuilding comeback ::) ::)
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I like Arnold as much as the next bodybuilding fan but the adoration seems to go a bit far.
looking great sweet muscles
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=267403.0;attach=307425;image)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=267403.0;attach=307425;image)
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Hahahahahahhahahahahhahh a for fuck's sakes I can't stop laughing!
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arnold is the ultimate alpha male but it is true, if it wasn't for steroids he would basically be a nobody back in austria
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if it wasn't for steroids he would basically be a nobody back in austria
So very true...
Steroids is what built his body; that got him titles; that got Joe's attention and brought him to America; that got him more titles and star in Pumping Iron; which in turn got him an invite to the Robert F. Kennedy celebrity tennis tournament and meet Maria Shriver; used his body for Conan which lead to other roles; etc.
EVERYTHING in his life stemmed from steroids, and 'fantastic' genetics!
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exactly all of his movies revolved around his body, steroids gave him his body
his body got him out of austria
to think that steroids didn't have a HUGE impact on his life is just stupid
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exactly all of his movies revolved around his body, steroids gave him his body
his body got him out of austria
to think that steroids didn't have a HUGE impact on his life is just stupid
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Agreed.