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Title: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2021, 01:02:17 AM
Governor of the great state of California (and by a landslide I might add) Gavin "I fucked Kimmy Guilfoyle 1st" Newsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 15, 2021, 03:16:09 AM
Governor of the great state of California (and by a landslide I might add) Gavin "I fucked Kimmy Guilfoyle 1st" Newsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I doubt he was first unless he started dating her in high school.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Sissysquats on September 15, 2021, 04:12:02 AM
Watch him close schools again
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: IroNat on September 15, 2021, 04:37:24 AM
I doubt he was first unless he started dating her in high school junior high.

This.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: IroNat on September 15, 2021, 04:38:21 AM
Governor of the great state of California (and by a landslide I might add) Gavin "I fucked Kimmy Guilfoyle 1st" Newsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the loser is...California!
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: pellius on September 15, 2021, 05:26:25 AM
Watch him close schools again

While his kids go to a private school. Time to write off Cali. They had their chance. They deserve what they get.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 15, 2021, 05:38:30 AM
Governor of the great state of California (and by a landslide I might add) Gavin "I fucked Kimmy Guilfoyle 1st" Newsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you consider California’s natural resources, what does this say about its Government?

No way I would leave Cali beaches to go to Texas unless the government has made it unbearable to stay.


California population declines for first time ever | cbs8.com

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/california/california-population-declines/509-bb2f6ef1-29c0-465d-8866-df648746278e
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 15, 2021, 06:39:35 AM
I'll take things that didn't actually happen for $1000, Alex.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 15, 2021, 07:37:21 AM
You would have to be verrryyyyyy stupid (*hint*  we know you can't help it) to actually believe that a state that is vastly more Democratic than Republican would have produced a different result.

Since the obvious isn't so obvious, start with the rigged excuses.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 15, 2021, 07:50:03 AM
You would have to be verrryyyyyy stupid (*hint*  we know you can't help it) to actually believe that a state that is vastly more Democratic than Republican would have produced a different result.

Since the obvious isn't so obvious, start with the rigged excuses.

I suspect people who think all these elections are rigged live in areas where there actually are a lot of Republican voters. Unfortunately I’m way out numbered by Democrats and as a result sadly I have to agree with you on this one.😥
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 15, 2021, 08:47:57 AM
I suspect people who think all these elections are rigged live in areas where there actually are a lot of Republican voters. Unfortunately I’m way out numbered by Democrats and as a result sadly I have to agree with you on this one.😥

Exactly. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 15, 2021, 08:55:27 AM
I suspect people who think all these elections are rigged live in areas where there actually are a lot of Republican voters. Unfortunately I’m way out numbered by Democrats and as a result sadly I have to agree with you on this one.😥

Dems on Trumps win - "Russia interfered in this election"
Dems on Bidens win - "There's no way anyone could rig an election".

Either way, I dont know enough to know or care if it (either) were rigged, above my pay grade.
However, never trust Gov't, and never write it off as "It could never happen".

Most corrpupt criminals ever (politicians). Nothing would surprise me...
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 15, 2021, 10:05:29 AM
Dems on Trumps win - "Russia interfered in this election"
Dems on Bidens win - "There's no way anyone could rig an election".

Either way, I dont know enough to know or care if it (either) were rigged, above my pay grade.
However, never trust Gov't, and never write it off as "It could never happen".

Most corrpupt criminals ever (politicians). Nothing would surprise me...

Hillary was a particularly pathetic sore loser. It was everyone’s fault but hers.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 15, 2021, 12:14:56 PM
This.
I almost wrote that originally. ;D
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2021, 03:20:16 PM
Dems on Trumps win - "Russia interfered in this election"
Dems on Bidens win - "There's no way anyone could rig an election".

Either way, I dont know enough to know or care if it (either) were rigged, above my pay grade.
However, never trust Gov't, and never write it off as "It could never happen".

Most corrpupt criminals ever (politicians). Nothing would surprise me...

Russia influencing morons on facebook vs the claim there was voter fraud.  Two entirely different things.  The 1st happened the latter did not. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 15, 2021, 04:00:01 PM
Russia influencing morons on facebook vs the claim there was voter fraud.  Two entirely different things.  The 1st happened the latter did not.

How many morons were actually influenced by Russians on Facebook? Voter fraud happens in every election it’s just a matter of extent. I accept that Trump lost.

Hillary had the deck stacked in her favor still lost then proceeded to whine for four years straight blaming everybody but herself.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2021, 04:01:46 PM
How many morons were actually influenced by Russians on Facebook? Voter fraud happens in every election it’s just a matter of extent. I accept that Trump lost.

Hillary had the deck stacked in her favor still lost then proceeded to whine for four years straight blaming everybody but herself.

I totally agree she lost.  And that it was almost entirely her fault.  Fuck her.  Not a fan.  But, I have hardly seen or heard from Hilary in the last 4 years.  Not sure where you have and continue to see her whining. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 15, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
I totally agree she lost.  And that it was almost entirely her fault.  Fuck her.  Not a fan.  But, I have hardly seen or heard from Hilary in the last 4 years.  Not sure where you have and continue to see her whining.


What Happened: The long list of who Hillary Clinton blames - BBC News


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41244474
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2021, 04:17:22 PM

What Happened: The long list of who Hillary Clinton blames - BBC News


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41244474

Great article but like I said, she has been largely absent from the public forum for over 4 years now. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 15, 2021, 04:35:24 PM
Great article but like I said, she has been largely absent from the public forum drunk for over 4 years now.

😉

That said, with Cuomo out of the picture I wouldn’t be surprised if she took a shot at the governors race in 2022.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 15, 2021, 05:03:07 PM
When you consider California’s natural resources, what does this say about its Government?

No way I would leave Cali beaches to go to Texas unless the government has made it unbearable to stay.


California population declines for first time ever | cbs8.com

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/california/california-population-declines/509-bb2f6ef1-29c0-465d-8866-df648746278e


Lets see....why would anyone want to leave the beautiful state of California....

To answer this question I followed the above provided link and this is what I discovered:

Maybe because they can no longer afford to live there. The average sale price of a single-family home in California hit a record $758,990 in March, a 23.9% increase from a year ago.

Census data showed people moving to California make more money and had higher education levels than people who moved out. In other words they can better afford to live there.

The state's four most populated cities...LA, San Diego, San Jose and San Francisco lost a combined 88,000 people in 2020. Meanwhile, major inland cities including Sacramento, Fresno and Bakersfield added population, evidence of people fleeing high-priced coastal cities for cheaper living.

California has relied on immigration for decades.....

Normally, California might have around 150,000 people move in from other countries. In 2020, it was just 29,000 people — a direct impact, state officials say, of the Trump administration halting new visas for much of the year.

COVID-19....in the last year in California almost 68,000 people died. 

Still California's population is just under 39.5 million.....the largest state population in the U.S.

Oregon ranks among states with the fastest population growth in the past decade. Oregon's population grew 10.6% from 2010 to 2020, reaching 4,237,256.

Portland's population increased by 1.3% over the past year.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2021, 05:10:17 PM
😉

That said, with Cuomo out of the picture I wouldn’t be surprised if she took a shot at the governors race in 2022.

I'd be surprised if she went that route.  Not shit my pants shocked but surprised and frankly disappointed.  Time to move on, divorce that scumbag she married and enjoy being a wealthy grandmother. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 15, 2021, 05:46:31 PM
Being Gov'nr would be a down grade for Hillary in her mind.  I don't think she has even thought about running.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 15, 2021, 06:06:36 PM
Trumpy still with his same old tired ass lying.  And the Trumpturds with their same old tired ass licking it up.

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Donald Trump's team on Tuesday released a statement alleging "rigged voting" in California's recall election.

Insider and Decision Desk HQ called the race for Gov. Gavin Newsom at 8:21 p.m. PT. Newsom survived the recall and beat 46 candidates, including Larry Elder, the controversial leading GOP contender.

Insider received the email from Trump's team less than an hour after the polls closed in California.

"People don't realize that, despite the Rigged voting in California (I call it the 'Swarming Ballots'), I got 1.5 Million more votes in 2020 than I did in 2016," Trump said in the statement.

There is no evidence of widespread vote-rigging in the California recall election.

Trump acknowledged that Newsom would "probably win" and zeroed in on the governor's handling of California's drought.

"The place is so Rigged." Trump said.

In the statement on Tuesday, Trump claimed that there were similarities between California's recall election and the 2020 presidential election.

"Many people are already complaining that when they go to vote they are told, 'I'm sorry, you already voted' (Just like 2020, among many other things)," Trump said.

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and judges have ruled resoundingly against the Trump camp's lawsuits alleging voter fraud in states including Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania.
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Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 15, 2021, 06:59:33 PM

I wonder WHY ( ;D) 10 000's of spectators @ college football stadiums shouts : FUCK Joe Biden ................... :D

Why is that BoB  ???
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2021, 07:10:59 PM
Governor of the great state of California (and by a landslide I might add) Gavin "I fucked Kimmy Guilfoyle 1st" Newsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's like bragging that the governor of Alabama survived recall against Democrat candidates.  Nothing to brag about.  Newsome is still a terrible leader. 

I also just listened to an older clip of him being interviewed.  He's really an empty suit.  Cannot think on his feet.  Another version of Obama and others who rose to power out of that state.

The one good thing that came out of this is that Newsome is done as a political candidate.  Outside of California.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 15, 2021, 07:13:19 PM
That's like bragging that the governor of Alabama survived recall against Democrat candidates.  Nothing to brag about.  Newsome is still a terrible leader. 

I also just listened to an older clip of him being interviewed.  He's really an empty suit.  Cannot think on his feet.  Another version of Obama and others who rose to power out of that state.

The one good thing that came out of this is that Newsome is done as a political candidate.  Outside of California.

You hope.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2021, 07:16:22 PM
You hope.

On second thought, although there is no way he gets elected POTUS, he could get elected senator in that state.  Would not surprise me at all.

Crazy how people support that guy.  Politics over everything for some people.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2021, 07:21:35 PM
On second thought, although there is no way he gets elected POTUS, he could get elected senator in that state.  Would not surprise me at all.

Crazy how people support that guy.  Politics over everything for some people.

Hopefully when Feinstein croaks he'll appoint himself to her Senate seat. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 15, 2021, 07:31:54 PM
On second thought, although there is no way he gets elected POTUS, he could get elected senator in that state.  Would not surprise me at all.

Crazy how people support that guy.  Politics over everything for some people.

I mean, think about this. It makes no difference whether you support someone with a conservative or liberal political viewpoint, in today's arena, only a fool or an egomaniac would consider running for office. You seem like an intelligent and logical person (even though I don't always/rarely agree with you), would you pursue a life as an elected politician? If you say yes....then go get your head examined.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2021, 07:33:27 PM
Hopefully when Feinstein croaks he'll appoint himself to her Senate seat.

I'm sure he would.  He would fit right in with all those dirtbags in Congress.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2021, 07:38:39 PM
I mean, think about this. It makes no difference whether you support someone with a conservative or liberal political viewpoint, in today's arena, only a fool or an egomaniac would consider running for office. You seem like an intelligent and logical person (even though I don't always/rarely agree with you), would you pursue a life as an elected politician? If you say yes....then go get your head examined.

Bruh I have been asked to run for political office numerous times.  I have given the same response every time:  not in this lifetime or alternatively when it snows in Honolulu. 

There is no way I would ever subject myself to that crap.  These people, particularly the left, have no boundaries.  They branded Kavanaugh as a gang rapist.  That man was a friggin choir boy.  They called Larry Elder a white supremacist and his ex girlfriend filed a criminal complaint over an absurd incident from like six years ago.  They called Dr. Ben Carson a racist extremist and interviewed his middle school classmates to try and disprove a story from his autobiography.  They are criminalizing political differences. 

This is the reason good people like Colin Powell refused to run. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: jude2 on September 15, 2021, 08:13:52 PM
Crazy how a guy supposed to be in a recall election and he gets a higher percentage of votes than he did when he first got elected.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2021, 08:18:05 PM
Crazy how a guy supposed to be in a recall election and he gets a higher percentage of votes than he did when he first got elected.

A lot of this kind of stuff doesn't pass the smell test.  But one of the things a lot of people don't think about is fraud and other kinds of misconduct of that nature are by definition something done in secret, with people trying to cover their tracks.  Very difficult to prove. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: MCWAY on September 15, 2021, 08:25:07 PM
A lot of this kind of stuff doesn't pass the smell test.  But one of the things a lot of people don't think about is fraud and other kinds of misconduct of that nature are by definition something done in secret, with people trying to cover their tracks.  Very difficult to prove.

It may be that there were fewer voters for this recall, hence the higher percentage.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2021, 08:29:57 PM
It may be that there were fewer voters for this recall, hence the higher percentage.

Good point.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: jude2 on September 15, 2021, 08:43:02 PM
It may be that there were fewer voters for this recall, hence the higher percentage.
Could be, but you think the people who had enough would vote. Who really knows these days.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Body-Buildah on September 16, 2021, 02:19:28 AM
Funny hw the Harvey Weinstein stuff was totally ignored y Libturdz though.
They lost their shit over it when it was convenient.

Whack-jobs...
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 16, 2021, 05:20:35 AM
Newsom won his original election in a landslide and that’s how he won this one. People seem to be having a hard time accepting that California is done and is essentially a leading indicator of the country as a whole.

Once Texas turns blue it’s game over.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Grape Ape on September 16, 2021, 06:26:39 AM
Funny hw the Harvey Weinstein stuff was totally ignored y Libturdz though.
They lost their shit over it when it was convenient.

Whack-jobs...

#metoo lead had to resign over helping Cuomo, #metoo board was dissolved so the hollywood cunts on it didn't have to resign and face scrutiny, BLM lead resigns over extravagant housing purchases........media relatively silent on all of it.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 16, 2021, 07:21:01 AM
Newsom won his original election in a landslide and that’s how he won this one. People seem to be having a hard time accepting that California is done and is essentially a leading indicator of the country as a whole.

Once Texas turns blue it’s game over.

It's always puzzling how Republicans crow and cheer about how residents of CA and NY are "fleeing" for TX and FL.  Two vastly blue states are sending it's supporters to swell the ranks of red states don't exactly seem to be a like a thing conservatives would be proud of.   Seeing the long game must not be an option.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Grape Ape on September 16, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
It's always puzzling how Republicans crow and cheer about how residents of CA and NY are "fleeing" for TX and FL.  Two vastly blue states are sending it's supporters to swell the ranks of red states don't exactly seem to be a like a thing conservatives would be proud of.   Seeing the long game must not be an option.

I get this.

But I don't think they are sending supporters, they are leaving due to certain conditions.

But it's also odd that people would flee a state, then vote for the same types of folks that caused the conditions that made them leave.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: MCWAY on September 16, 2021, 08:04:02 AM
It's always puzzling how Republicans crow and cheer about how residents of CA and NY are "fleeing" for TX and FL.  Two vastly blue states are sending it's supporters to swell the ranks of red states don't exactly seem to be a like a thing conservatives would be proud of.   Seeing the long game must not be an option.

Republicans "crow and cheer" about that, because it shows that they were right that certain liberal policies SUCK. Who wants to pay over $4 for gas? I don't.

And I LOVE TAX BREAKS. There's a reason military people re-enlist overseas in combat zones: THEY GET ALL THEIR MONEY (especially signing bonuses).

They also have their home of record in a no-state-tax plan, when possible. Even when I was stationed in spots with state/commonwealth, county, and city income taxes, I didn't pay ANY OF IT, because Florida was/is my home of record.

I get this.

But I don't think they are sending supporters, they are leaving due to certain conditions.

But it's also odd that people would flee a state, then vote for the same types of folks that caused the conditions that made them leave.

As my favorite pastor said about the Exodus, "It took days to get the Israelites out of Egypt. But it took FORTY YEARS to get Egypt out of the Israelites."

After four hundred years of bondage, the Israelites are freed from Pharoah's grip. Two months after being delivered, they waxed poetic about Egypt, built a golden calf, and want Moses (the very deliverer for whom they prayed) EXECUTED.


Plus, we've all sadly heard about the battered woman who leaves her abusive man.....only to run right back to him or find another jerk just like him.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 16, 2021, 09:08:51 AM
That Texas is trending blue would fly in the face of the arguments that California is sending conservative supporters there.

Liberals should be very happy with the way things are going. We have two parties: socialists and the party that gives lip service to the idea of limited government.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 09:53:38 AM
That Texas is trending blue would fly in the face of the arguments that California is sending conservative supporters there.

Liberals should be very happy with the way things are going. We have two parties: socialists and the party that gives lip service to the idea of limited government.

Truth.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 16, 2021, 10:43:04 AM
That Texas is trending blue would fly in the face of the arguments that California is sending conservative supporters there.

Liberals should be very happy with the way things are going. We have two parties: socialists and the party that gives lip service to the idea of limited government.
That is what is so demoralyzing.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: IroNat on September 16, 2021, 10:46:26 AM
Newsom won his original election in a landslide and that’s how he won this one. People seem to be having a hard time accepting that California is done and is essentially a leading indicator of the country as a whole.

Once Texas turns blue it’s game over.

And Texas is on the way.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2021, 11:22:47 AM
And Texas is on the way.

It is just my opinion, so it might not be worth much. My suspicion is that the harder Republicans push their extremely conservative agenda, i.e. the recent abortion law changes, the bigger the backlash from those folks who are moderate and liberal will be and Texas will definitely turn blue. It is unlikely the majority of of the population ultra conservative.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 16, 2021, 11:52:07 AM
It is just my opinion, so it might not be worth much. My suspicion is that the harder Republicans push their extremely conservative agenda, i.e. the recent abortion law changes, the bigger the backlash from those folks who are moderate and liberal will be and Texas will definitely turn blue. It is unlikely the majority of of the population ultra conservative.

This.  It will have nothing to do with those people leaving from other states.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 12:19:28 PM
It is just my opinion, so it might not be worth much. My suspicion is that the harder Republicans push their extremely conservative agenda, i.e. the recent abortion law changes, the bigger the backlash from those folks who are moderate and liberal will be and Texas will definitely turn blue. It is unlikely the majority of of the population ultra conservative.

Meh.  I doubt it.  Abortion doesn't drive most people's votes. 

I want to say that today's whacked out liberal ideology will start to alienate a lot of people, but they have powerful weapons with big tech, the media, academia, and Hollywood.  They control the narrative.  They can censor pretty much whatever they want. 

Think about this:  Trump is banned from Twitter, but the Taliban is not. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2021, 12:30:04 PM
Meh.  I doubt it.  Abortion doesn't drive most people's votes. 

I want to say that today's whacked out liberal ideology will start to alienate a lot of people, but they have powerful weapons with big tech, the media, academia, and Hollywood.  They control the narrative.  They can censor pretty much whatever they want. 

Think about this:  Trump is banned from Twitter, but the Taliban is not.

I did not know this. Does the Taliban even have a Twitter account? I just read that more than 100 new pro-Taliban accounts and pages have surfaced on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, despite a ban on the group by these sites. If this is true, then the ban isn't working.

Maybe Trump could open gimmick Twitter and Facebook accounts.....unfortunate ly for him, he would most likely reveal his identity in his first few tweets and get banned once again. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2021, 12:44:05 PM
Meh.  I doubt it.  Abortion doesn't drive most people's votes. 

I want to say that today's whacked out liberal ideology will start to alienate a lot of people, but they have powerful weapons with big tech, the media, academia, and Hollywood.  They control the narrative.  They can censor pretty much whatever they want. 

Think about this:  Trump is banned from Twitter, but the Taliban is not.

Are you aware that the state government in Texas is not who will enforce the new abortion laws? Apparently, it was set up so that individual citizens can sue anyone involved in assisting post 6 week abortion, including the person who drove someone to the abortion clinic....like an Uber driver for example. Seems pretty sneaky on the part of state government. It is akin to legalizing vigilantes....except these folks would no longer fit the definition of a vigilante. Crazy and convoluted IMO.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 12:47:17 PM
Are you aware that the state government in Texas is not who will enforce the new abortion laws? Apparently, it was set up so that individual citizens can sue anyone involved in assisting post 6 week abortion, including the person who drove someone to the abortion clinic....like an Uber driver for example. Seems pretty sneaky on the part of state government. It is akin to legalizing vigilantes....except these folks would no longer fit the definition of a vigilante. Crazy and convoluted IMO.

They are not vigilantes...they are bounty hunters. 

They are going to get paid to snitch on their neighbors

Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2021, 12:56:18 PM
They are not vigilantes...they are bounty hunters. 

They are going to get paid to snitch on their neighbors

Either way, it doesn't seem like a good plan. Texas revisits the Wild, Wild West.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 12:58:17 PM
Either way, it doesn't seem like a good plan. Texas revisits the Wild, Wild West.

Neighbors snitching on each other for cash rewards...in a state where anyone can get a gun and carry it with them without a permit

What could go wrong?
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 01:04:41 PM
I did not know this. Does the Taliban even have a Twitter account? I just read that more than 100 new pro-Taliban accounts and pages have surfaced on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, despite a ban on the group by these sites. If this is true, then the ban isn't working.

Maybe Trump could open gimmick Twitter and Facebook accounts.....unfortunate ly for him, he would most likely reveal his identity in his first few tweets and get banned once again.

"Twitter Inc. (NYSE: TWTR) has announced that that Taliban spokesmen will be able to maintain accounts on its social media platform as long as they abide by the terms of service and do not use their tweets to advocate violence."
https://www.yahoo.com/now/why-twitter-allows-taliban-maintain-142546810.html

How twisted is that?

Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Straw Man on September 16, 2021, 01:05:19 PM
"Twitter Inc. (NYSE: TWTR) has announced that that Taliban spokesmen will be able to maintain accounts on its social media platform as long as they abide by the terms of service and do not use their tweets to advocate violence."
https://www.yahoo.com/now/why-twitter-allows-taliban-maintain-142546810.html

How twisted is that?

So the same rules that apply to everyone else?

What's that got to do with Newsom winning in a Landslide?
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 01:05:33 PM
Are you aware that the state government in Texas is not who will enforce the new abortion laws? Apparently, it was set up so that individual citizens can sue anyone involved in assisting post 6 week abortion, including the person who drove someone to the abortion clinic....like an Uber driver for example. Seems pretty sneaky on the part of state government. It is akin to legalizing vigilantes....except these folks would no longer fit the definition of a vigilante. Crazy and convoluted IMO.

Doesn't sound like good policy to me. 
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 16, 2021, 06:58:33 PM
They are not vigilantes...they are bounty hunters. 

They are going to get paid to snitch on their neighbors


Hey BoB, what's happened to YOURS 'Russian Bounty Hunters' in Afghanistan  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Primemuscle on September 16, 2021, 07:05:47 PM
"Twitter Inc. (NYSE: TWTR) has announced that that Taliban spokesmen will be able to maintain accounts on its social media platform as long as they abide by the terms of service and do not use their tweets to advocate violence."
https://www.yahoo.com/now/why-twitter-allows-taliban-maintain-142546810.html

How twisted is that?

Time will tell.
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Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 07:18:30 PM
Time will tell.

Time will tell what??  More of this?

Report: Taliban Beheaded Two Boys Aged 9 and 10 in Afghanistan
As the Taliban establishes Islamic rule, beheadings will become the Sharia-sanctioned punishment for non-believers and those regarded as the enemies of Islam.
Posted by Vijeta Uniyal Thursday, September 16, 2021
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/report-taliban-beheaded-two-boys-aged-9-and-10-in-afghanistan/
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 16, 2021, 10:25:37 PM
Time will tell what??  More of this?

Report: Taliban Beheaded Two Boys Aged 9 and 10 in Afghanistan
As the Taliban establishes Islamic rule, beheadings will become the Sharia-sanctioned punishment for non-believers and those regarded as the enemies of Islam.
Posted by Vijeta Uniyal Thursday, September 16, 2021
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/report-taliban-beheaded-two-boys-aged-9-and-10-in-afghanistan/

We don't honestly know what else these kids could have done when they were 7 or 8.  “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”
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Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 10:49:30 PM
We don't honestly know what else these kids could have done when they were 7 or 8.  “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”

Is that supposed to be a joke about children who were beheaded by these barbarian Neanderthals? 
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 16, 2021, 11:37:24 PM
Is that supposed to be a joke about children who were beheaded by these barbarian Neanderthals?

Do we know for sure they weren't throwing stones at the Taliban's armed forces.  I'm just not willing to jump to conclusions.
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Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
Do we know for sure they weren't throwing stones at the Taliban's armed forces.  I'm just not willing to jump to conclusions.

Pretty weird sense of humor you got there. 

But it does allow you to avoid talking about how Twitter suspended Trump but permits the Taliban to post. 
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 16, 2021, 11:43:21 PM
Pretty weird sense of humor you got there. 

But it does allow you to avoid talking about how Twitter suspended Trump but permits the Taliban to post.

You know I'm only fucking with you.  I honestly don't keep up on the twitter/facebook/social media scene.  Let alone who gets suspended and for what.  But, on the surface it seems awry that Trump cannot post but the Taliban can.  Again, I have no idea what kind of postings the Taliban put out there. 
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Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2021, 11:54:17 PM
You know I'm only fucking with you.  I honestly don't keep up on the twitter/facebook/social media scene.  Let alone who gets suspended and for what.  But, on the surface it seems awry that Trump cannot post but the Taliban can.  Again, I have no idea what kind of postings the Taliban put out there.

I figured.  Plus any man who can intelligently discuss sports gets a pass in my book.   :)

You should start paying attention to what big tech is doing.  It might be cool that they censor people you don't like or care about.  It will sting when they come for you.  We have ceded way too much power to those people.  Censorship never ends well. 
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2021, 12:41:40 AM
I figured.  Plus any man who can intelligently discuss sports gets a pass in my book.   :)

You should start paying attention to what big tech is doing.  It might be cool that they censor people you don't like or care about.  It will sting when they come for you.  We have ceded way too much power to those people.  Censorship never ends well.

We are about 5 weeks away from opening night (tip off).  I'm so happy the season is starting on time and I'll be able to catch a game in person.  I'm really expecting a fun season out of my Pistons.  I think I've told you before, but I'm a huge Russ Westbrook guy.  He's the type of hard nosed, max effort guy that could play in any era.  I look at him too and think what if he had discovered the boxing gym at 6 instead of the basketball court?  Might be looking at the heavyweight champion of the world.  That being said, since my Pistons aren't legit contending for a couple years I want the Lakers to win the whole thing.  I absolutely don't want the Nets to win.  Hate that fucking team.  Cannot stand Kyrie Irving.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 17, 2021, 04:49:55 AM
There was a time, during the Patrick Ewing era, when I could tell you every player on the Knicks. Now I couldn’t name one.
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Post by: Grape Ape on September 17, 2021, 06:36:42 AM
There was a time, during the Patrick Ewing era, when I could tell you every player on the Knicks. Now I couldn’t name one.

Ewing, Ward, Oakley, Mason, Starks, Smith.........loved that team.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 17, 2021, 07:40:29 AM
Ewing, Ward, Oakley, Mason, Starks, Smith.........loved that team.


The only thing they were missing was that second great scorer. Had Bernard King been in his prime at that time the Knicks would’ve won a few championships.
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Post by: Grape Ape on September 17, 2021, 07:50:33 AM

The only thing they were missing was that second great scorer. Had Bernard King been in his prime at that time the Knicks would’ve won a few championships.

Or if Starks didn't go 2 for 18 from the field in game 7
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 17, 2021, 07:59:02 AM
Or if Starks didn't go 2 for 18 from the field in game 7

Starks was a gritty gutsy overachiever but he wasn’t really at the top of the food chain talent wise. Compare him to Clyde Drexler.
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Post by: Grape Ape on September 17, 2021, 08:13:43 AM
Starks was a gritty gutsy overachiever but he wasn’t really at the top of the food chain talent wise. Compare him to Clyde Drexler.

I loved that Knicks team, and followed them into the Spreewell era......it has been horrible ever since.

Like you, I don't know any Knicks right now, but they are going to be a playoff team next year.

But fuck the NBA.
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Post by: TheGrinch on September 17, 2021, 08:23:27 AM
There was a time, during the Patrick Ewing era, when I could tell you every player on the Knicks. Now I couldn’t name one.

10000000% yes...... only time I ever watched basketball or went to games

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Post by: Grape Ape on September 17, 2021, 08:31:11 AM
10000000% yes...... only time I ever watched basketball or went to games

Games were awesome then - flat out wars vs the Bulls / Heat / Hornets
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2021, 09:32:53 AM
Anthony Mason (RIP) was a monster. Loved him and Charles Oakley. No homo. Oakley is the one who discovered Big Ben Wallace and sort of mentored him.
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Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2021, 10:08:37 AM
We are about 5 weeks away from opening night (tip off).  I'm so happy the season is starting on time and I'll be able to catch a game in person.  I'm really expecting a fun season out of my Pistons.  I think I've told you before, but I'm a huge Russ Westbrook guy.  He's the type of hard nosed, max effort guy that could play in any era.  I look at him too and think what if he had discovered the boxing gym at 6 instead of the basketball court?  Might be looking at the heavyweight champion of the world.  That being said, since my Pistons aren't legit contending for a couple years I want the Lakers to win the whole thing.  I absolutely don't want the Nets to win.  Hate that fucking team.  Cannot stand Kyrie Irving.

I'm optimistic about this season, if everyone can stay healthy.  I really like the intensity Westbrook brings.  He is going to put a lot of pressure on opposing defenses. 

I don't like the Nets either.  Problem for me is I cannot stand LeBron.  Constantly having to practice my zen when I watch my Lakers play.
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Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2021, 10:12:09 AM
There was a time, during the Patrick Ewing era, when I could tell you every player on the Knicks. Now I couldn’t name one.

Julius Randle.  He's a baller and former Laker.  That's the only player I can name from the Knicks off the top of my head. 
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Post by: Primemuscle on September 17, 2021, 03:38:46 PM
Time will tell what??  More of this?

Report: Taliban Beheaded Two Boys Aged 9 and 10 in Afghanistan
As the Taliban establishes Islamic rule, beheadings will become the Sharia-sanctioned punishment for non-believers and those regarded as the enemies of Islam.
Posted by Vijeta Uniyal Thursday, September 16, 2021
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/report-taliban-beheaded-two-boys-aged-9-and-10-in-afghanistan/

You posted:

"Think about this:  Trump is banned from Twitter, but the Taliban is not."

To which I responded:

I did not know this. Does the Taliban even have a Twitter account? I just read that more than 100 new pro-Taliban accounts and pages have surfaced on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, despite a ban on the group by these sites. If this is true, then the ban isn't working.

So, which is it? Has Facebook, YouTube and Twitter banned pro-Taliban accounts or have they not?

If they have not, time will tell if they will ban them. If they have, time will tell if these gimmick accounts get banned as well.

I am not aware that the article regarding the beheading of the two young boys has been posted on Twitter, Facebook or Youtube. The link you provided says nothing about the Taliban posting this on Twitter, Facebook or Youtube.


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Post by: Dos Equis on September 17, 2021, 06:55:30 PM
You posted:

"Think about this:  Trump is banned from Twitter, but the Taliban is not."

To which I responded:

I did not know this. Does the Taliban even have a Twitter account? I just read that more than 100 new pro-Taliban accounts and pages have surfaced on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, despite a ban on the group by these sites. If this is true, then the ban isn't working.

So, which is it? Has Facebook, YouTube and Twitter banned pro-Taliban accounts or have they not?

If they have not, time will tell if they will ban them. If they have, time will tell if these gimmick accounts get banned as well.

I am not aware that the article regarding the beheading of the two young boys has been posted on Twitter, Facebook or Youtube. The link you provided says nothing about the Taliban posting this on Twitter, Facebook or Youtube.

Did you miss this?  Twitter has not banned the Taliban.

"Twitter Inc. (NYSE: TWTR) has announced that that Taliban spokesmen will be able to maintain accounts on its social media platform as long as they abide by the terms of service and do not use their tweets to advocate violence."
https://www.yahoo.com/now/why-twitter-allows-taliban-maintain-142546810.html

How twisted is that?
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Post by: TheGrinch on September 17, 2021, 06:55:48 PM
Anthony Mason (RIP) was a monster. Loved him and Charles Oakley. No homo. Oakley is the one who discovered Big Ben Wallace and sort of mentored him.

I always like to imagine a team going against almost 800lbs of solid muscle - Oakley, Mason, L Johnson and living to tell about it..lol
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 17, 2021, 08:24:12 PM
I always like to imagine a team going against almost 800lbs of solid muscle - Oakley, Mason, L Johnson and living to tell about it..lol

Larry Johnson.  Damn.  Was in awe of him while he was at UNLV.  An absolute man amongst boys.
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on September 18, 2021, 07:40:46 AM
Larry Johnson.  Damn.  Was in awe of him while he was at UNLV.  An absolute man amongst boys.
That's because he was probably 30 years old in college.
Title: Re: The Winner and Still.........
Post by: TheGrinch on September 18, 2021, 08:24:00 AM
That's because he was probably 30 years old in college.

yes.. but that allowed him to be grandmama when in the NBA at 60 years old :-)

(https://i.redd.it/3equ6psj5gu11.jpg)
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Post by: AbrahamG on September 18, 2021, 11:04:39 AM
That's because he was probably 30 years old in college.

Lmfao
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Post by: Primemuscle on September 18, 2021, 11:47:05 AM
Did you miss this?  Twitter has not banned the Taliban.

A lot can change in a month....that was August 18th. However, the four men listed in the article appear to have some presence on Twitter at least in name. None of the associated accounts appear to be posting inflammatory comments, except some responders remarks....although, I don't speak or read Arabic, Dari or Pashto, so who knows what they post in their native language. The negative remarks appear to be coming from English speaking people. I am intentionally not posting links to the 4 listed Twitter accounts. If someone is interested in reading them, they can find them on their own.

Seems as if removing/banning them is easier said than done. The clips below are from a Times article published August 19, 2021

-The social media companies, following government guidelines, have largely designated the Taliban as a terrorist organization and don’t allow Taliban content on their sites.

-Representatives for YouTube and Facebook said they forbade Taliban accounts and removed them when they were found. Twitter, which said this week that it prohibits glorification of violence on its platform, didn’t respond to a request for comment.

-Facebook and YouTube removed the accounts of a Taliban spokesman, Mohammad Naeem.

-When Facebook this week blocked the WhatsApp account of Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, he distributed a new, still active WhatsApp account of another Taliban leader to journalists.

-The Taliban were also easily evading being found by changing the spellings within their hashtags or key terms, and using encrypted apps.

-Many of the new pro-Taliban accounts have been careful to post content that does not openly espouse violence or hate speech, which would violate the companies’ rules.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/18/technology/taliban-social-media-bans.html