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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8025 on: September 08, 2021, 09:49:34 PM »
Just checked the 2017 September Bitcoin open prices. See attached.

$4,701.76 on 9/1/17
$3,166.30 on 9/15/17
$4,166.11 on 9/30/17

Now look at the 2017 December Bitcoin high price:

$20,089.00 on 12/15/17

This is why some people think a $20k ETH is still possible in 2021. I realize these are two different assets with different supplies and 2021 is not the same as 2017. The dollar now is worth less though than back then. 2021 Ethereum has been following 2017 Bitcoin pretty closely so far but is a little behind. It was ahead of 2017 Bitcoin earlier in the year.

This also answers Griff’s question.

If we see peak seasonality for BTC at year end expect 2 scenarios IMO:

BTC @ 88k
BTC @ 110k

Assume 0.07 ETHBTC which gives 6.1k - 8k at peak BTC and then we see overrun on ETH towards 12k - 16k.

I would think a 20k ETH requires a 200k BTC price though.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8026 on: September 09, 2021, 06:39:26 AM »
Just checked the 2017 September Bitcoin open prices. See attached.

$4,701.76 on 9/1/17
$3,166.30 on 9/15/17
$4,166.11 on 9/30/17

Now look at the 2017 December Bitcoin high price:

$20,089.00 on 12/15/17

This is why some people think a $20k ETH is still possible in 2021. I realize these are two different assets with different supplies and 2021 is not the same as 2017. The dollar now is worth less though than back then. 2021 Ethereum has been following 2017 Bitcoin pretty closely so far but is a little behind. It was ahead of 2017 Bitcoin earlier in the year.

Taking into account that you've stated the obvious differences between BTC and ETH (two different assets with different supplies and USD being worth less), you assume ETH can get to a $20K value based on its constant burning of supply?

My angle is that if there's still possible dumping to come in September, why not wait for lower lows?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8027 on: September 09, 2021, 07:24:44 AM »
Taking into account that you've stated the obvious differences between BTC and ETH (two different assets with different supplies and USD being worth less), you assume ETH can get to a $20K value based on its constant burning of supply?

My angle is that if there's still possible dumping to come in September, why not wait for lower lows?

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With so many cryptos now. It’ll be hard for eth and BTC to climb to super high numbers. The investments are diluted across many cryptos.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8028 on: September 09, 2021, 07:34:23 AM »
Taking into account that you've stated the obvious differences between BTC and ETH (two different assets with different supplies and USD being worth less), you assume ETH can get to a $20K value based on its constant burning of supply?

My angle is that if there's still possible dumping to come in September, why not wait for lower lows?

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The ETH price factored in the uncertainty over the London upgrade when it hit an ATH. Anything below that now is arguably a discount.

It will likely pump again pretty hard before dumping, so we could see a 5k or 6k ETH very soon and then a 30% to 40% which would just put ETH back where we are now.

I haven't bought in yet though. I'm convinced the Evergrande, the Chinese bond market situation and CCP are key to what happens over the next few weeks.

Evergrande has shat the bed, so now it's down to the CCP and bailouts. No bailout and tether is screwed, 80% crypto dump. Bailouts (which looks likely) then all markets take a haircut and crypto dumps about 30%.

If nothing happens there is still October which looks like it will be be spicy month for the US markets now that government stimulus has wound down.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8029 on: September 09, 2021, 08:03:05 AM »
I haven't bought in yet though. I'm convinced the Evergrande, the Chinese bond market situation and CCP are key to what happens over the next few weeks.

Evergrande has shat the bed, so now it's down to the CCP and bailouts. No bailout and tether is screwed, 80% crypto dump. Bailouts (which looks likely) then all markets take a haircut and crypto dumps about 30%.

Yea, I just read about Evergrande yesterday and it does look like a shitty situation for the Chinese bond market. Could cause a serious hit to their economy and infrastructure, as Evergrande is tied to most of the massive skyscrapers China is renowned for. It's being tied to government bonds and infrastructure makes it a double edge sword.

Don't know how much of Tether is vested into Evergrande, so difficult to say. Still, if it does affect the crypto ecosystem, I'll be ready to buy up ETH, ADA, Link and DOT.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8030 on: September 09, 2021, 08:52:07 AM »
Yea, I just read about Evergrande yesterday and it does look like a shitty situation for the Chinese bond market. Could cause a serious hit to their economy and infrastructure, as Evergrande is tied to most of the massive skyscrapers China is renowned for. It's being tied to government bonds and infrastructure makes it a double edge sword.

Don't know how much of Tether is vested into Evergrande, so difficult to say. Still, if it does affect the crypto ecosystem, I'll be ready to buy up ETH, ADA, Link and DOT.

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When Tether were investigated they said 50% of their reserves  come from commercial paper. Tether is Hong Kong based
and Evergrande happens to be China’s largest issuer of commercial paper. China dumping bitcoin makes a bit more sense if Tether and Evergrande are linked.

I actually came across this possible connection back in July and dismissed it as tinfoil, but now I'm not so sure. Even without Tether the CCP need $300 billion to bail out Evergrande. It needs to be paid in dollars, so market corrections and sell offs are very likely across the board.

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CCP has allowed Evergrande to reset debt terms and can kick. The payments on loans were originally due on the 21st (Maydays crash dates were the 22-23rd) but they have no money and assets are grossly overvalued, so the can kick looks pointless.

Reading between the lines it looks like the CCP said no to bailouts. Putting the tin foil on the CCP looks like they are willing to screw investors, let Evergrande go bust and then they'll pick the rotting carcass. The Chinese version of 2008 looks in play.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8031 on: September 10, 2021, 12:57:55 AM »
https://bitcoinist.com/standard-chartered-goes-bullish-on-ethereum-predicts-eth-to-reach-35000-mark/

Standard Chartered Goes Bullish On Ethereum, Predicts ETH To Reach $35,000 Mark




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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8032 on: September 10, 2021, 09:34:31 AM »
Here's a free version of Market Cipher for anyone interested. It uses all the free trading tools already on Trading View.  To change from view only and keep it, just save it under 'layouts'.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/o1u9u4B6/

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« Reply #8033 on: September 10, 2021, 04:31:17 PM »
I'm loading up at these levels.  Don't see us going below 42k. If we do, it'll be a shitty mess.

Sell back into the the rally I anticipate happening soon.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8034 on: September 10, 2021, 04:40:10 PM »
Crypto wants to rocket, but these are not buying times. Especially not bitcoin.

El Salvador could very easily have been this cycles Coinbase IPO peak. Also funny that Coinbase has had it's lending program stalled/shut down by the SEC and also tons of users are complaining about being shut out of accounts and/or stolen coins. Fuckeries are afoot.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8035 on: September 11, 2021, 04:08:00 AM »
BTC at 100k and ETH tripling in this bullrun before end of year?


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8036 on: September 11, 2021, 11:50:19 AM »
BTC at 100k and ETH tripling in this bullrun before end of year?





More youtube videos of "to tha moon" dudes who would be selling used cars if not for crypto.  ;D

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8037 on: September 12, 2021, 04:33:15 AM »
More youtube videos of "to tha moon" dudes who would be selling used cars if not for crypto.  ;D

The universe works so that outliers win. Those are top and bottom positions. Meanwhile the people in the middle who are average don't get anywhere.

Look at sport. The top outliers win. The average can train super hard and come somewhere in the middle and nobody cares. The bottom outliers get the crowd chanting for them, other athletes giving them support and they get more attention on social media.

The same goes for intelligence. The top outliers obliterate everybody. The average can study hard, still get smoked by an outlier and be stuck fighting over the most competitive jobs. The bottom outliers do jobs the average won't because the average see themselves above it. The bottom can do shit jobs earning double the money of the average with less work stress and higher quality of life.

The top outliers have a fast ability to learn. The bottom outliers have the ability to block noise by sheer accident.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8038 on: September 12, 2021, 06:36:14 AM »
The bottom outliers do jobs the average won't because the average see themselves above it. The bottom can do shit jobs earning double the money of the average with less work stress and higher quality of life.

This..

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8039 on: September 13, 2021, 12:27:57 AM »
Here is an overlay of 2013 timeline to the dump prior to the mammoth year end run.

Peak 9th April vs 13th April
Bottom 6th July vs 20th July
Rally peak 1st Sept vs 6th Sept
1st bottom 6th Sept vs 10th Sept
Peak 29th Sept vs ……21st September (maybe)
DUMP 2nd Oct vs 22nd-23rd Sept (maybe)
Bounce out 4th Oct vs 25th Sept

If we don’t vomit on the 22nd-23rd it means we dump after the 2nd October as all dates in 2021 have been later than 2013.

I have another chart but I can’t post on here without it looking tiny but it’s unrealised P&L which shows we are exact same as 2013 and NOT post peak.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8040 on: September 13, 2021, 06:10:14 PM »
BE BULLISH mofos!!!!

There is 7 days left until the a devil cleanses your soul and you shall be reborn into an insane bullrun.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8041 on: September 13, 2021, 06:15:37 PM »
In 7 days we shall all be cleansed!

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« Reply #8042 on: September 13, 2021, 09:24:29 PM »
The SEC is going after the exchanges now as well as ripple. I still think ripple beats their SEC case, but we have seen what that has done to the price of XRP. This new FUD against exchanges could drop prices across the board.

https://twitter.com/attorneyjeremy1/status/1437487301601411074
https://www.banking.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Gensler%20Testimony%209-14-21.pdf



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Elsewhere Evergrande is starting looking like Chinas Lehman Bros.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/14/china-property-giant-evergrande-admits-debt-crisis-as-protesters-besiege-hq

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8043 on: September 14, 2021, 11:44:01 AM »

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8044 on: September 15, 2021, 09:31:53 AM »
We went a bit higher then my anticipated target but reassured this baby is heading down. Anticipate a rally around the 44k range where ill be longing. After that we will head down lower. Imo.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8045 on: September 15, 2021, 07:48:30 PM »
Bitcoin golden cross could send it rocketing.

On the other hand Evergrandes bankruptcy will leave US hedgefunds holding bags. This could cause a stock and crypto sell off, leaving anyone long anything in tears, x5 that if Evergrande takes down the rest of the property development market in China with it (Sunac busting out is the big one) Tether  :-X

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8046 on: September 16, 2021, 06:19:14 AM »
REAL TALK.

Is it worth it for me to purchase an expense (yikes!) current GPU (preferably NVidia) and begin mining on the side?

If yes, what should be mined?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8047 on: September 17, 2021, 01:14:37 AM »
Bitcoin golden cross could send it rocketing.

On the other hand Evergrandes bankruptcy will leave US hedgefunds holding bags. This could cause a stock and crypto sell off, leaving anyone long anything in tears, x5 that if Evergrande takes down the rest of the property development market in China with it (Sunac busting out is the big one) Tether  :-X

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Is everybody expecting a dump? Yes
Have people sold or closed their long positions? No
Have people opened hedge positions whilst keeping their original positions open? Yes
Your Conclusion --> Is everybody scared of being dumped on or missing out on the rally out = Rally out

We have a 4 week window of crypto downside risk after which you better be on board mate ;)

I'll message you about a few of the things we chatted about that i did quite well in. Will be spastic.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8048 on: September 17, 2021, 09:38:01 PM »

Is everybody expecting a dump? Yes
Have people sold or closed their long positions? No
Have people opened hedge positions whilst keeping their original positions open? Yes
Your Conclusion --> Is everybody scared of being dumped on or missing out on the rally out = Rally out

I would be more than willing to accept the risks you've highlighted, but I'm not touching it right now because of Tether.

I mentioned Tether a few months ago, again a few weeks and again a couple of days. All 3 were different sources highlighting the Tether risk, now Burry just tweeted about it https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1439055789646360582 (knowing him he'll delete it soon)

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23. Again – its certainly possible Tether is buying other Chinese bank or developer CP or making up the CP concept entirely. But consider the implications if true: The crypto universe may be riding on the back of China’s collapsing property developers

Read the rest of the tweets from July https://twitter.com/thelastbearsta1/status/1418302465557110785?s=21

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8049 on: September 19, 2021, 01:07:57 AM »