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Title: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 14, 2010, 06:57:06 AM
I wonder how long a 15 story building takes to build in america??? Hmmmmm...red tape, corruption, union demands, faulty construction, kick backs etc etc...Oh lets say about two years.

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"As the United States and China battle over the finer points of currency manipulation at the G-20 summit, American negotiators may want to take note of this startling testimonial to the productivity of Chinese workers: A construction crew in the south-central Chinese city of Changsha has completed a 15-story hotel in just six days. If nothing else, this remarkable achievement will stoke further complaints from American economic pundits that China's economy is far more accomplished than ours in tending to such basics as construction.

The work crew erected the hotel -- a soundproofed, thermal-insulated structure reportedly built to withstand a magnitude 9 earthquake -- with all prefabricated materials. In other words, a crew of off-site factory workers built the sections, and their on-site counterparts arranged them on the foundation for the Ark Project."
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: OzmO on November 14, 2010, 07:01:52 AM
The you tube won't work.  It might just be my iPad I donno   You might want to post this on political too.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 14, 2010, 07:12:18 AM
The you tube won't work.  It might just be my iPad I donno   You might want to post this on political too.

Try it  again

Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 07:12:39 AM
talk about clueless.  lets have a raise of hands for who wants to stay in that hotel. lol...  you want to talk about faulty construction and corruption and you're gonna hold up china and scold America?  bwhahahahaha...
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 07:27:55 AM
they didn't even give a shit about cutting corners for schools and that's their children.  I can only imagine how much they care about hotel guests lol...

Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 07:34:56 AM
epic ::)

Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: 240 is Back on November 14, 2010, 07:40:45 AM
woah woah woah...

a building collapsed on its own, and it wasn't reduced to a pile of molten steel and giant clouds of pyroclastic dust?

Something doesn't make sense here.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 07:51:04 AM
woah woah woah...

a building collapsed on its own, and it wasn't reduced to a pile of molten steel and giant clouds of pyroclastic dust?

Something doesn't make sense here.
poor workmanship of American contruction...  The chinese do so much better, that when a building falls, it's still intact, just need to tip it upright :D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2010, 07:51:32 AM
woah woah woah...

a building collapsed on its own, and it wasn't reduced to a pile of molten steel and giant clouds of pyroclastic dust?

Something doesn't make sense here.

 ;D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: chaos on November 14, 2010, 08:14:57 AM
woah woah woah...

a building collapsed on its own, and it wasn't reduced to a pile of molten steel and giant clouds of pyroclastic dust?

Something doesn't make sense here.
woah woah woah...

a 15 story building collapsed on its own without governments ops planting tons of explosives to reduce it to a pile of molten steel and giant clouds of pyroclastic dust?


Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 14, 2010, 08:33:58 AM
woah woah woah...

a building collapsed on its own, and it wasn't reduced to a pile of molten steel and giant clouds of pyroclastic dust?

Something doesn't make sense here.

Building was built too close to a levy wall and the saturated soil just could not hold up the building.


Notice very damp (down right SATURATED) soil right under building
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/06/20090627_18.jpg)

More visible saturation of soil
(http://www.brodieworld.com/_/rsrc/1261410558791/home/gottolovechineseworkmanship/shanghai_building_collapse_2.jpg)

Another view
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/06/20090627_16.jpg)


It is a building practically built on MUD...
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/business/original700/china-building-collapse-2009-6-29-4-20-23.jpg)

Built too close to levy wall. Also notice the soil located between toppled building and river. It looks like there was literally a small LANDSLIDE that may have pushed the building over. Notice also in the background there is another pile of soil pressed up against another building...a sudden shift in that damp heavy soil may cause that building to topple as well. No question this was sloppy construction standards...however I have to take into account these guys may have been rushed into building these buildings for whatever reason and the end result in complete failure. This does not look good for the construction company or any potential tenant who would certainly question living in the other buildings.
(http://www.brodieworld.com/_/rsrc/1261410558723/home/gottolovechineseworkmanship/China1_1432360i.jpg)
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 06:35:16 PM
Samson, that wouldn't have happened in America.  You may have identified the problem, but that's something we don't shortcut or ignore here.  What's your excuse for all the poor construction and cut corners in the eathquake vid? 
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 14, 2010, 07:09:15 PM
Samson, that wouldn't have happened in America.  You may have identified the problem, but that's something we don't shortcut or ignore here.  What's your excuse for all the poor construction and cut corners in the earthquake vid? 

You seem to have forgotten Katrina, the San Fransisco earthquake, the Loma Prieta earthquake, the Chicago fire...let us not even bring up the WTC and more. All of these events revealed VERY LAX standards of construction in america for the sake of speed and money saving, building on poor soil, with poor drainage,building on or too near levees, etc etc is why all of San Fransisco's buildings are being retrofitted...it is also the reason there was so much massive damage in San Fransisco during their earthquake, because much of San Fransisco is built on LANDFILL!!!. Chicago burned down because it was a city built primarily of wood even though it was stressed to start building with the readily available bricks...Chicago refused because wood was cheaper (Marshmellows anyone?). Los Angeles discovered massive short cuttings and crappy construction as its highway systems and bridges collapsed (pancaked) during its earthquakes in the 90s. I almost forgot about the more recent bridge in Minnesota that collapsed and they blamed bird droppings for the failure. There are plenty of examples in america of structural failure of buildings, bridges, roadways, water mains, levees etc etc. It just requires the right set of circumstances to reveal the short comings that were done in building the structures. Sadly the Chinese construction company did a couple of obvious wrongs and maybe some unseen wrongs that brought this building to topple over like this.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 07:23:42 PM
You seem to have forgotten Katrina, the San Fransisco earthquake, the Loma Prieta earthquake, the Chicago fire...let us not even bring up the WTC and more. All of these events revealed VERY LAX standards of construction in america for the sake of speed and money saving, building on poor soil, with poor drainage,building on or too near levees, etc etc is why all of San Fransisco's buildings are being retrofitted...it is also the reason there was so much massive damage in San Fransisco during their earthquake, because much of San Fransisco is built on LANDFILL!!!. Chicago burned down because it was a city built primarily of wood even though it was stressed to start building with the readily available bricks...Chicago refused because wood was cheaper (Marshmellows anyone?). Los Angeles discovered massive short cuttings and crappy construction as its highway systems and bridges collapsed (pancaked) during its earthquakes in the 90s. I almost forgot about the more recent bridge in Minnesota that collapsed and they blamed bird droppings for the failure. There are plenty of examples in america of structural failure of buildings, bridges, roadways, water mains, levees etc etc. It just requires the right set of circumstances to reveal the short comings that were done in building the structures. Sadly the Chinese construction company did a couple of obvious wrongs and maybe some unseen wrongs that brought this building to topple over like this.
You probably shouldn't bring up WTC.  Didn't you think it was a controlled demo too?  And lol at you making century old points against America. ::)  Some of what you mentioned isn't because the items were built poorly, it's because they were used beyond their limits and should have been replaced.  We know we have dating infrastructure in bad need of work. Considering everything we've put our system, buildings, roads through in America I think we've done pretty dang good.  And the cities have held up pretty well under earthquakes and it'll be even better the next big one that hits.  MAJOR POINT still being that it's absurd to hold china over us when they DO HAVE THE PROBLEMS YOU'VE MENTIONED AND A LOT OF THEM.  Even worse, you always get the Chinese government covering up the problems whenever possible.  What they do admit is usually a tiny fraction of the problem.  So no way you can call outAmeriica with China's example lol....
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
and lol at mentioning the Katrina and the levees.  Your buddy Louis Farrakhan thinks it was intentionally bombed so that the poor black neighborhoods would take the hit and save the white neighborhoods.  You probably posted the video where he says this lol...  Which one do you think it was?  Shotty work or bombed to save whites?
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 14, 2010, 08:01:03 PM
and lol at mentioning the Katrina and the levees.  Your buddy Louis Farrakhan thinks it was intentionally bombed so that the poor black neighborhoods would take the hit and save the white neighborhoods.  You probably posted the video where he says this lol...  Which one do you think it was?  Shotty work or bombed to save whites?

For a moment...just a moment you were somewhat having somewhat of an intelligent conversation and then you dropped the ball....I guess like an ALZHEIMER'S patient you have your moments.

 Louis Farrakhan was NOT the first to say that. Your much beloved ALEX JONES was the first. Farrakhan said the levees were deliberately dynamited by americas whites government three times 1927, 1965, 2005 and even had the book RISING TIDES that proved it all....it is no secret and I posted that info some time ago where your government even admitted it. Alex Jones spoke of the independent test that showed two different types of explosives used in the dynamiting of the levees and the residue samples collected There is also a documentary "WHEN THE LEVEES BROKE" which had survivors of Katrina speaking of massive explosions near the levees after the lights went out. With no power it could not have been the transformers like the media tried to claim...IT WAS THE LEVEES BEING DYNAMITED. Keep in mind I brought up Katrina because right at the convenient time the pumps that drain water from New Orleans (a city built below the water line)...FAILED. also there have been many levee failures along the lengthy Mississippi, Ohio river and Missouri river every year for decades....Shoddy Work? or do insurance companies just like paying out fees to policy holders?

Hopefully you will read this when you brain is in full functioning mode.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 08:23:22 PM
For a moment...just a moment you were somewhat having somewhat of an intelligent conversation and then you dropped the ball....I guess like an ALZHEIMER'S patient you have your moments.

 Louis Farrakhan was NOT the first to say that. Your much beloved ALEX JONES was the first. Farrakhan said the levees were deliberately dynamited by americas whites government three times 1927, 1965, 2005 and even had the book RISING TIDES that proved it all....it is no secret and I posted that info some time ago where your government even admitted it. Alex Jones spoke of the independent test that showed two different types of explosives used in the dynamiting of the levees and the residue samples collected There is also a documentary "WHEN THE LEVEES BROKE" which had survivors of Katrina speaking of massive explosions near the levees after the lights went out. With no power it could not have been the transformers like the media tried to claim...IT WAS THE LEVEES BEING DYNAMITED. Keep in mind I brought up Katrina because right at the convenient time the pumps that drain water from New Orleans (a city built below the water line)...FAILED. also there have been many levee failures along the lengthy Mississippi, Ohio river and Missouri river every year for decades....Shoddy Work? or do insurance companies just like paying out fees to policy holders?

Hopefully you will read this when you brain is in full functioning mode.
LOL, you start melting when I bring up LF.  Where was I nasty in that post samson?  I also never said LF was the first to say it.  You just like LF so much, I had to ask, which you think it is, what LF believes or just shotty work?  All systems to hold back or hold out water will eventually fail.  It's one of the hardest things for man to deal with.  And my point still stands, China is not above any of the things you called out America on.  They could easily be worse.  Hell over there you don't have any kind of media to call them out or criticise what's going on.  Do you really think China is better in regards to corruption and faulty construction?  It's that part that I think is absolutely delusional in your statements here. 

And good job avoiding the main post above the LF question...
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 14, 2010, 08:31:40 PM
LOL, you start melting when I bring up LF.  Where was I nasty in that post samson?  I also never said LF was the first to say it.  You just like LF so much, I had to ask, which you think it is, what LF believes or just shotty work?  All systems to hold back or hold out water will eventually fail.  It's one of the hardest things for man to deal with.  And my point still stands, China is not above any of the things you called out America on.  They could easily be worse.  Hell over there you don't have any kind of media to call them out criticise what's going on.  Do you really think China is better in regards to corruption and faulty construction?  It's that part that I think is absolutely delusional in your statements here.

Ha Ha...a true patriot you are indeed. Deny EVERYTHING for the sake of supporting a country that can give a rats ass about your ass...lol .

Who said you were being nasty? Who said China was above error? Who melted down? I leave the MELTDOWNS AND MENTAL BREAKDOWNS to you..Without question you are the EXPERT at it... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 14, 2010, 09:02:41 PM
Ha Ha...a true patriot you are indeed. Deny EVERYTHING for the sake of supporting a country that can give a rats ass about your ass...lol .

Who said you were being nasty? Who said China was above error? Who melted down? I leave the MELTDOWNS AND MENTAL BREAKDOWNS to you..Without question you are the EXPERT at it... ;D ;D ;D
as usual, you're the only one in denial.  That's why you're so good at ignoring points made that go against your thinking on a subject.  You've always done it and now you're doing it again.

A. you accused me of dropping the ball on intelligent conversation then you started flipping out on me... Melting... I assumed you thought I went negative first.  Infact you did in response to one of many legit questions/points I made.  Most of which you failed to address.  

Are you know admitting that it's absurd to suggest China is better in regards to construction?  You did call out America with a list of shit, the suggestion obviously being these items are not a problem in China like they are in America.  Infact they're probably more of a problem in China.

And yea, you are the one melting down, as you always do with people who disagree with you.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: 24KT on November 14, 2010, 11:26:05 PM
I wonder how long a 15 story building takes to build in america??? Hmmmmm...red tape, corruption, union demands, faulty construction, kick backs etc etc...Oh lets say about two years.

[ Invalid YouTube link ]

"As the United States and China battle over the finer points of currency manipulation at the G-20 summit, American negotiators may want to take note of this startling testimonial to the productivity of Chinese workers: A construction crew in the south-central Chinese city of Changsha has completed a 15-story hotel in just six days. If nothing else, this remarkable achievement will stoke further complaints from American economic pundits that China's economy is far more accomplished than ours in tending to such basics as construction.

The work crew erected the hotel -- a soundproofed, thermal-insulated structure reportedly built to withstand a magnitude 9 earthquake -- with all prefabricated materials. In other words, a crew of off-site factory workers built the sections, and their on-site counterparts arranged them on the foundation for the Ark Project."


Wow, that's impressive! Makes me tempted to get into Real Estate Development in China.
Just think how much you could save on labour costs if you only have to pay workers for 2 weeks?  :)

Samson, I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that I love an impressive erection as much as the next girl,
...however I would honestly be a little leery of living in a building that went up in only 2 weeks.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 01:46:03 AM
yep,

the united states is a regular third world country...

(http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/032-waldorf-astoria-hotel-new-york-city-pictures.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: 24KT on November 15, 2010, 01:55:33 AM
yep,

the united states is a regular third world country...

(http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/032-waldorf-astoria-hotel-new-york-city-pictures.jpg)

 ;D

Oh shush... give it just a little more time. You know it's coming.  :D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 15, 2010, 08:22:49 AM
Wow, that's impressive! Makes me tempted to get into Real Estate Development in China.
Just think how much you could save on labour costs if you only have to pay workers for 2 weeks?  :)

Samson, I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that I love an impressive erection as much as the next girl,
...however I would honestly be a little leery of living in a building that went up in only 2 weeks.

I won't say that I don't have some reservations about living/staying in a building going up so fast either, but ya gotta admit it was impressive none the less seeing it put together so fast. I don't think a Hollywood setting for a movie could be put together that fast and those building are not even intended to be lived in...as a matter of fact they only are facades of buildings. Also, the building is said to be able to survive a 9.0 earthquake...now that remains to be seen. I don't think any building regardless of how it is constructed can survive a 9.0 quake, but with China's earthquake activity we should all find out soon if it stands up to the claim.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2010, 08:29:10 AM
Empire State Building - one year. 
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 15, 2010, 08:32:37 AM
Empire State Building - one year. 

At 15 floors in 6 days that means a little over two floor per day. Using one year as a schedule...the Chinese could have build a building over 730 floors high...NOW THAT IS IMPRESSIVE!!!.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 15, 2010, 08:45:05 AM
as usual, you're the only one in denial.  That's why you're so good at ignoring points made that go against your thinking on a subject.  You've always done it and now you're doing it again.

A. you accused me of dropping the ball on intelligent conversation then you started flipping out on me... Melting... I assumed you thought I went negative first.  Infact you did in response to one of many legit questions/points I made.  Most of which you failed to address.  

Are you know admitting that it's absurd to suggest China is better in regards to construction?  You did call out America with a list of shit, the suggestion obviously being these items are not a problem in China like they are in America.  Infact they're probably more of a problem in China.

And yea, you are the one melting down, as you always do with people who disagree with you.

YAWN

If nothing else huey your posts cure insomnia
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 15, 2010, 09:14:16 AM
yep,

the united states is a regular third world country...

(http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/032-waldorf-astoria-hotel-new-york-city-pictures.jpg)

 ;D

Yeah Cy... great hotel...such high standards...maybe you should have used a better example...lol

http://www.nyhtc.org/secured.php?page=related_news&story_number=00749&tag=Waldorf=Astoria

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/family-sues-waldorf-astoria-over-bedbugs

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waldorf_astoria_shooter_offered_yS8ZCd58beW0yPvnLMzy2L

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/11/15/2008-11-15_retired_nypd_cop_shot_in_botched_robbery.html

http://www.city-data.com/ny-restaurants/HLT-NY-WALDORD-LLC-WALDORF-ASTORIA.html
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 15, 2010, 09:32:01 AM
At 15 floors in 6 days that means a little over two floor per day. Using one year as a schedule...the Chinese could have build a building over 730 floors high...NOW THAT IS IMPRESSIVE!!!.

id love to see 1930's mainland china build anything close to that which resembls the E.S. building.

nice try.

btw, hugo shitvez owning samson/jag all over this thread.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 12:05:46 PM
Yeah Cy... great hotel...such high standards...maybe you should have used a better example...lol

http://www.nyhtc.org/secured.php?page=related_news&story_number=00749&tag=Waldorf=Astoria

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/family-sues-waldorf-astoria-over-bedbugs

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waldorf_astoria_shooter_offered_yS8ZCd58beW0yPvnLMzy2L

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/11/15/2008-11-15_retired_nypd_cop_shot_in_botched_robbery.html

http://www.city-data.com/ny-restaurants/HLT-NY-WALDORD-LLC-WALDORF-ASTORIA.html

I don't know Samson, for some reason I don't think those compare to a building that just tipped the fuck over.....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 15, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
China is building at a rate of adding one Chicago per week
http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/08/china-australia-commerce-international-opinions-columnists-robyn-meredith.html

They're just chucking these buildings up almost overnight lol...

Again, I'd like to ask people if they would rather stay daily in a large story building that was rushed up or would you feel safer in the buildings we build?

For me, no way I was work or live in and around buildings that were put up so fast you know they had to have cut corners and not fully preped sites and foundation structures.

THanks but no freaking thanks Samson.  It's bad enough that we have to use all this cheap plastic crap from China.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2010, 03:00:15 PM
Doesnt matter - wih the enviro nazis in this country - we will all be in tents under candles anyway. 
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 03:49:08 PM
I know a guy that built an indoor sports facility.  He had to pay around $500k just to get some kind of gigantic concrete footings sunk into the dirt (river front) before he was even allowed to build.

Has the United States ever built a building that just tipped over?  ;D

Atleast the World Trade Centers imploded on themselves...  :-X
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 03:51:18 PM
I know a guy that built an indoor sports facility.  He had to pay around $500k just to get some kind of gigantic concrete footings sunk into the dirt (river front) before he was even allowed to build.

Second question,

Why is the kind of guy that has $500k for footers alone still investing in the United States (Midwest even) if our economy is ready to collapse?

Surely he's an intelligent man if he's got enough money to build a river front sports complex? ???
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 03:52:57 PM
Why is one of Ohio's largest steel mills building a new Coke Plant and Blast Furnace if our economy is on the brink of collapse?  Surely the CEO of this fortune 500 company is as intelligent as Samson?

???
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 15, 2010, 05:00:42 PM
Don't forget, we're dealing with trying to talk to a person that hates America.  I don't say that in the sense that the Neocons loved to toss it around if you were in the slightest critical of America; Samson actually can't stand America and he's pretty much voiced enough opinions about America that it's clear, he hates us--especially whites in America...

No shock then that he takes every opportunity he can to take a jab at America, even when it's not warranted.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 05:02:25 PM
Don't forget, we're dealing with trying to talk to a person that hates America.  I don't say that in the sense that the Neocons loved to toss it around if you were in the slightest critical of America; Samson actually can't stand America and he's pretty much voiced enough opinions about America that it's clear, he hates us--especially whites in America...

No shock then that he takes every opportunity he can to take a jab at American, even when it's not warranted.

I know, I don't really bother with his threads anymore but they do entertain the hell out of me...  ;D

He's comparing the Waldorf Astoria's bed bugs (that probably came from China), to a hotel that literally tipped over....  ;D  Cracks me up... hahahahaha
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: OzmO on November 15, 2010, 05:29:50 PM
I agree that our building process is a bit over burdened with unions, corruption, EPA bs, etc.   

But anything made in China being synonymous with quality?    Hahahahahha
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: 24KT on November 15, 2010, 08:14:22 PM
I agree that our building process is a bit over burdened with unions, corruption, EPA bs, etc.   

But anything made in China being synonymous with quality?    Hahahahahha

Don't kid yourself. To me, that statement is as about as ridiculous as saying all Russian women look like men.
Remember when that fallacy circulated? ...when the only exposure the west had to Russian women were the steroid laden athletes of the Olympics. Now we certainly know better don't we?

China can produce exceptional quality if that is what is required. What America wants to import and what she has always wanted to import was cheap. Don't blame the seller for giving the buyer what she wanted. China can produce quality, but pretty soon, Americans won't be able to afford it.
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: OzmO on November 15, 2010, 08:18:20 PM
Don't kid yourself. To me, that statement is as about as ridiculous as saying all Russian women look like men.
Remember when that fallacy circulated? ...when the only exposure the west had to Russian women were the steroid laden athletes of the Olympics. Now we certainly know better don't we?

China can produce exceptional quality if that is what is required. What America wants to import and what she has always wanted to import was cheap. Don't blame the seller for giving the buyer what she wanted. China can produce quality, but pretty soon, Americans won't be able to afford it.

Did I say China was incapable of producing quality products?

You are welcome.    :)
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: 24KT on November 15, 2010, 08:21:31 PM

But anything made in China being synonymous with quality?    Hahahahahha

How about an economy?  mr. smarty pants  >:(
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 15, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Don't kid yourself. To me, that statement is as about as ridiculous as saying all Russian women look like men.
Remember when that fallacy circulated? ...when the only exposure the west had to Russian women were the steroid laden athletes of the Olympics. Now we certainly know better don't we?

China can produce exceptional quality if that is what is required. What America wants to import and what she has always wanted to import was cheap. Don't blame the seller for giving the buyer what she wanted. China can produce quality, but pretty soon, Americans won't be able to afford it.
::)  It's not what the end buyer has ever wanted in America, we're sick of the cheap plastic crap... it's been what's forced on us by greedy corporations.  I've tried several times to not buy chinese shit, it's almost impossible.  And the chinese have even gone cheaper than that in the products to fuel their own greed, often using extremely dangerous materials because they're even cheaper than the specs called for.  If it were not for greedy corporations here, the chinese wouldn't be in any kind of boom and they would still look like they did 20+ years ago.  So we've fueled their economic boom and after it's done, we won't even get credit for that.  They already treat us like we never gave them a thing, as though they did all this on their own... ::)
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: OzmO on November 15, 2010, 08:30:32 PM
How about an economy?  mr. smarty pants  >:(
Well they are getting there.....  Its only taken them since 1421
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 15, 2010, 10:53:53 PM
Why is one of Ohio's largest steel mills building a new Coke Plant and Blast Furnace if our economy is on the brink of collapse?  Surely the CEO of this fortune 500 company is as intelligent as Samson?

???

Thank you for the compliment. In your sarcasm you reveal your stupidity. The man must have been really smart and convincing to have managed to get investors to provide funding for the building of a Coke Plant and Blast Furnace if the rest of ameriac is in such dire straits. It is no mystery that americas economy has collapsed and the only thing holding it up is government bailouts, massive money printing and the 5 BILLION per day borrowed from CHINA!!!! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

You're delusional Cy..glad you warned me of it...But if you want to believe the american fantasy of "we are going to make it through this" or "we will emerge greater than before" or "This financial crisis is just a speed bump" then you'd better put the CRACK PIPE DOWN...
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 15, 2010, 10:55:49 PM
Samsonjag, you're a very angry person.  Perhaps some therapy might help?
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 15, 2010, 11:03:40 PM
Samsonjag, you're a very angry person.  Perhaps some therapy might help?

Didn't work for you did it??? You're still MELTING DOWN...MENTALLY BREAKING DOWN...lol
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
Samsonjag, you're a very angry person.  Perhaps some therapy might help?

I don't understand him

I live in a depressed area (the Midwest), I'm living good (without working as hard as I should), people here are living good.  

I'm extremely critical of the United States, everyone knows that but Samson/24KT take it to a whole new delusional level.


I just got back from John's Creek, Georgia.  Home of Tyler Perry, Raven-Symone, Usher, the president of Home Depot, and a bunch of other executives and CEO's.  If we're on the brink of collapse, the people pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this community certainly don't know about it.  I've never see so many mansions, new residential developments, office parks, restaurants, banks, etc...

Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 15, 2010, 11:14:49 PM
I don't understand him

I live in a depressed area (the Midwest), I'm living good (without working as hard as I should), people here are living good.  

I'm extremely critical of the United States, everyone knows that but Samson/24KT take it to a whole new delusional level.


I just got back from John's Creek, Georgia.  Home of Tyler Perry, Raven-Symone, Usher, the president of Home Depot, and a bunch of other executives and CEO's.  If we're on the brink of collapse, the people pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this community certainly don't know about it.  I've never see so many mansions, new residential developments, office parks, restaurants, banks, etc...


ARRRRGH... YEEEESH... YIKES... GONDOLAMMA!!!! YOU'RE MELTING DOWN AND MENTALLY BREAKING DOWN!!!!  AHHHHH AHHHHH... grrrr...



haha  :D
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Cy Tolliver on November 15, 2010, 11:16:53 PM
ARRRRGH... YEEEESH... YIKES... GONDOLAMMA!!!! YOU'RE MELTING DOWN AND MENTALLY BREAKING DOWN!!!!  AHHHHH AHHHHH... grrrr...



haha  :D

You're right Samson/24KT!

Our country is in chaos, I'm starving here (bread line closed for the night) and a stray dog just ran by my broken window with a human hand!!!

 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: China Builds 15 Story Hotel In Six Days
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 15, 2010, 11:30:59 PM
What can I say, our country is in chaos, I'm starving here (bread line closed for the night) and a stray dog just ran by my broken window with a human hand!!!

 :-X :-X :-X
LOLOLOL