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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #150 on: February 14, 2007, 08:56:42 AM »
What do you think you'll have anyway? A 6 year old car with 90K miles thats worth 2,000 on a trade in.....cars dont hold their value like in the old days, unless you've got something exotic or rare.

Terrible logic.  Most cars can easily support 150,000 miles with better cars topping over 200,000 miles.  So, if I use typical dumb Chick logic of 15,000 miles per year, the car would last an easy 10 years or 5 years past the loan amount yielding 5 years/60 months of $0 monthly payment.  Even if you factor 20,000 miles a year, you still have minimum 2 years past debt.

Just in case Chick starts to think, even if you average $1,500 per year on extended repairs, that only contributes to $125 per month.  Start running the value for new car payments (won't even factor the rapid depreciation) minus extended monthly allowance compounded with the cost of money over 5 years will = smarter than Chick.

Math. is. hard.

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #151 on: February 14, 2007, 09:02:27 AM »
if you like a new car every couple yrs or can use it as a write off then lease. otherwise you waisting your money leasing, cause if you never "buy" you will have payments forever, and have nothing to show for it at the end.

This is correct. If you know you are one of those people who never has the same car for more then 2-3 yrs, you should absolutely lease, buying for these people is a financial mistake as they are likely to be upside down, that is owing more than the car is worth in 2 yrs. There are still plenty of people who buy cars for function(mostly) they put a nice down payment on a decent car, finance for 3-4 yrs( not 6-7 give me a break) and keep the car for 8-10yrs. Financially the best thing to do is buy a good reliable used car for $2000 to $10000, pay cash and drive it until it dies, and then repeat the process. However!, many people are simply, CAR people, we like our cool cars! and we will pay for them!! Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #152 on: February 14, 2007, 09:06:47 AM »
This is correct. If you know you are one of those people who never has the same car for more then 2-3 yrs, you should absolutely lease, buying for these people is a financial mistake as they are likely to be upside down, that is owing more than the car is worth in 2 yrs. There are still plenty of people who buy cars for function(mostly) they put a nice down payment on a decent car, finance for 3-4 yrs( not 6-7 give me a break) and keep the car for 8-10yrs. Financially the best thing to do is buy a good reliable used car for $2000 to $10000, pay cash and drive it until it dies, and then repeat the process. However!, many people are simply, CAR people, we like our cool cars! and we will pay for them!! Nothing wrong with that.
very true. i use to lease a new pickup every 3 yrs for my buisness now i buy.

i have very good credit and i don't put many miles on any of my cars so it makes more sense to me to own.........why anyone would lease with no benifits is plain stupid.

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #153 on: February 14, 2007, 09:33:14 AM »
very true. i use to lease a new pickup every 3 yrs for my buisness now i buy.

i have very good credit and i don't put many miles on any of my cars so it makes more sense to me to own.........why anyone would lease with no benifits is plain stupid.

Because it allows people to have what they wouldn't be able to afford (finance luxuries), allows people to have a sense of importance, it caters to the short term 'now now now' mindset, etc...

To put this into perspective against wealth, I know a few individuals who commute to the city by helicopter.  Guess what, they don't lease the helicopters but own them.  Think about this.

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #154 on: February 14, 2007, 07:16:41 PM »
If I had the cash I'd get me a classic.  Its never gonna look out of date, depreciation is virtually nil if you buy right, and it'll look just as good as any Bentley or Escalade.

This ones on eBay for $15k


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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #155 on: June 30, 2007, 12:09:36 PM »
good stuff!
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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #156 on: June 30, 2007, 03:36:46 PM »
There is nothing wrong with leasing, in fact it is much harder to do as far as credit goes. The last time I bought a new car for myself (bought the wife one in 2005) was in 2000. I own the car obviously and it is in perfect spotless shape and had 90k on it and will most likey go another 60 to 80 easily. It is not worth a crap though as far as trade in or even selling out right. I will drive the thing till the engine goes and them most likey put a new one in it and drive it for another 100k. Next time I get a car I am going to lease the thing.

I stopped in a BMW dealer the other day to check out a lease and the only thing you have to do with the car is put freakin gas in it and buy tires. Oil change every 15k which they do and they even put new windsheild wipers on it for you. People will say that I do not own it, so what, by the time I paid off my car it wasn't really worth much anyway. Remember this, buying or leasing a car is not an investment unless antique. You lose either way in the end so whether you lease or buy who cares. Get something that you like and enjoy it.

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #157 on: June 30, 2007, 03:40:56 PM »
i'd love to lease.  it would be stress free.  but i would hate to have to hold it back.

I usually hold $, then find an old person who is going blind/incapable of driving, and buy their car from them. 

You drive thru the 200k mobile home parks and just look for the 'For Sale' signs.  They'll sell nice sedans (which have been driven 45 mph max and taken care of meticulously) way below mkt value.

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Re: SHAWN RAYS DOCTOR: "You are Obese"
« Reply #158 on: June 30, 2007, 05:24:21 PM »
Thank you, Onlyme will appreciate the fact the he and I are NOT in the same Fat Boat together. ;D
By the way, that was NOT "MY" doctor, it was an Anti Aging clinic I consulted with for the film. :-*

Was this Troy Zuccoloto's clinic?

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #159 on: July 01, 2007, 03:51:50 AM »


thats crazy. shawn was in shape, had abs outline and all.


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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #160 on: July 01, 2007, 05:13:57 AM »

Really?



So who is it you suppose is driving all the $90-$120k Mercedes S-class cars rolling off the line each year?  (not to mention every Rolls, Bentley, Ferrari, etc, etc, etc, etc)


Thousandaires?  ::)

Goat,

It is true that the great majority of millionaires are " the people next door" .. meaning that they pride themselves in living what appears to be " middle-upper middle class income" Most drive a American made car that is several years old. The book also states that the most common car of the "Millionaire next door " is the Ford Explorer. 99% of BMW;s on the road are leased or not paid for.
The people who buy the 90k or 110k cars are usually living pay check to paycheck and in debt. I know a Dr who earns over 500k  per year. THey live in a multi million dollar house, he drives a Ferari, wife drives an SUV all 3 kids are in college...... yet his net worth is not much because they have next to no money saved.

Then you have someone who might make 100k -150k year.... but has a net worth of 2 mill. But lives "Beneath his/her means". Drives an Ford/Chevy lives in a modest home.

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #161 on: July 01, 2007, 05:37:33 AM »
id still rather look mlike shawn ry did than adinis does anyfucking day mwahaahah ugly homo

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Re: Shawn Ray's Doctor says you are obese
« Reply #162 on: July 01, 2007, 06:49:38 AM »

Looks like you're gearing up for another big run of your bullshit hate and anti-bodybuilding propoganda. Adam, if you're still under 170 pounds at your height, nothing's gonna have changed. Nobody's gonna give a shit, no matter how lean, or how unconventional your methods. End of story.

I'm guessing that once you do achieve the most awe-inspiring, functional and universally-appreciable physiques on the planet, that you will stop saying negative things about people on the internet on a perpetual basis. Your behavior is never seen among the truly successful.

I wanna ask you, Adam...what price would be too much to pay for that accomplishment? Of having built the most admired physique on the planet? Living to 70 instead of 90 or 100? "Risk" of incarceration? People suspecting that you achieved that physique the "easy," or according to them, "immoral" way? What if steroids or diet/training techniques that you do not currently employ were actually the "only" way to achieve what you are ultimately wanting to achieve? Would you be willing to do "what it takes" then, without the ability to claim any of the methods involved as being of your own unique conception? Would having the best physique on the planet be enough to make you feel special or appreciated? Or could it be that you don't truly believe you have the genetics to create the true physique of your dreams, and that you feel you'll need to produce your best presentation whose shortcomings will be excused because of it's being "pretty good, considering?" For example, "considering" that you didn't really even try. "Considering" that you ate whatever you wanted to. "Considering" that you did no cardio. "Considering" that you didn't even eat protein, much less take steroids. "Considering" that you don't even care about bodybuilding anyway.

Could this be your motivation here? Lately you've tried to explain that you are only motivated to "help" because of your "care" for these people. I want you to ask yourself how "helping" these people could ever be considered enabling them to do something that they, by definition, needed you to be able to achieve, when you will not have indicated that you needed THEM for any part of your existence, other than the praise they stand to offer you, on account of what would then be perceived by them as your superiority to them. You are only seeking to "help" yourself. No one wants to achieve anything they don't suspect they could have ultimately figured out on their own, regardless of how much your "help" stands to improve the quality of their lives. They must be able to assume themselves in some way responsible for their own success.

Show some humility. Show some vulnerability. Show that you're fallible. Admit mistakes. Acknowledge defeat. Where's the deadlift video? Just say that you thought you could do it but couldn't. We'll understand. Your having approximated your abilities incorrectly does not mean that you are a failure. But we're going to assume that until you just say you were wrong on issues such as this one, that you yourself do innately believe yourself to be a failure and have an very self-limiting inability to consciously face that you may have been prone to error. It shows a blatant inability to be true to YOURSELF and for that reason no one is able to trust your competency. This is universal law. Hitler had this same inability. In the end, he killed himself rather than face that he may have been wrong in some of his fundamental-most assumptions, and in denial of this, he waged war with the world until the bitter end, took many innocent lives, and hurt many of the survivors in unspeakable ways in the process. The world was vulnerable to this at the time because it hadn't seen someone appear so sure of himself to that extent and be wrong before. We now know that insanity has no boundaries and your ego, like Hitler's, knows no boundaries. I believe that you would destroy us all before admitting that you were anything but the most superior individual on the planet. Look how you left Tweeter hanging. When you're wrong, you just disappear until you think we've forgotten. Thank God most of us have the sense enough not to listen to you. You are a hateful, selfish, jealous person and you are a festering sore on the sport of bodybuilding.

Until you've learned better how to "play the game," Adam, just go away. Please. You are not concerned for anyone's health, or the betterment of society. You attack people here because they make you feel inferior, and your posts here simply reinforce the legitimacy of the notion that you indeed are. Recognize that nothing truly great has ever been achieved in strict compliance with the stated moral values of a society, but rather by guidance of the much more trustworthy and heartfelt moral compass held personally by the greats having achieved these feats worthy of mention and demanding of our most genuine appreciation.

Meldown, hope this helps, I'm just saying, etc. I just hope you'll consider some of this and STFU until you've got something positive to say.
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Re: SHAWN RAY USED TO BE A BODYBUILDER!
« Reply #163 on: July 01, 2007, 08:02:00 AM »
Present Licks: S430 Benzo & CL 600 V12 Benzo
Does it matter of their Leased?
They are both in my garage and full of Gas :-*

false sense of self worth.


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Re: SHAWN RAY USED TO BE A BODYBUILDER!
« Reply #164 on: July 01, 2007, 08:05:02 AM »
nothing beats the battle for olympia 2000 when shawn ray rolls up to the gym in a bright red lamborghini diablo vt with 2pac 'how do u want it' bumping and then he pulls the door up of the car... that was sick!

actually
that was loaned to him by a friend so that he could fool gullible fanboys like you
into thinking he is some kind of celebrity millionaire