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Title: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 10:44:52 AM
Grossly inflating  values
Telling over 200+ lies
Kiddos got punched in the mouth by the lawsuit too
Fraud fraud fraud

Good thing the special master in the FBI raid is in NY.  Trumpy can just bop over to that office on alternative days for that investigation.   ;D  It would suck for Trumpy to have to fly back and forth all the time between different states when his supporters haven’t gotten that new jet paid for yet.   :D

Now let’s get all the denial, excuse making, spin, deflection, misinformation and spin started.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
Dumb bitch knew she couldn’t get him on any charges so here’s her last resort..🙄

This will be yet another “bombshell” that will blow up in Lurkers face…lol
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 11:54:30 AM
Right on cue with the spin.

Sounds like you up the monthly auto debit amount for the Trumpy legal fund.  Or at least for tomorrow’s cleaning bill to get the Heinz off the walls.  He’s fuming at this point.  All CAPS posting storm to follow shortly.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: The Gov on September 21, 2022, 12:06:24 PM
Grossly inflating  values
Telling over 200+ lies
Kiddos got punched in the mouth by the lawsuit too
Fraud fraud fraud

Good thing the special master in the FBI raid is in NY.  Trumpy can just bop over to that office on alternative days for that investigation.   ;D  It would suck for Trumpy to have to fly back and forth all the time between different states when his supporters haven’t gotten that new jet paid for yet.   :D

Now let’s get all the denial, excuse making, spin, deflection, misinformation and spin started.


The resident PedoCuck with no actual real life is excited  ::)  next is you being humiliated for your only sexual gratification.   :-\
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2022, 01:04:01 PM
Right on cue with the spin.

Sounds like you up the monthly auto debit amount for the Trumpy legal fund.  Or at least for tomorrow’s cleaning bill to get the Heinz off the walls.  He’s fuming at this point.  All CAPS posting storm to follow shortly.

It’s not spin numb nuts it’s a fact. It’s also a fact that’s there’s only 49 days left to the mid-terms and she’s down in the polls to a Republican . This dumb bitches entire platform was to get Trump so much her entire state has gone to shit
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2022, 01:07:13 PM

The resident PedoCuck with no actual real life is excited  ::)  next is you being humiliated for your only sexual gratification.   :-\

Lurker will believe ANYTHING the left puts in front of him
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 01:32:03 PM
Right on cue with the spin.

Sounds like you up the monthly auto debit amount for the Trumpy legal fund.  Or at least for tomorrow’s cleaning bill to get the Heinz off the walls.  He’s fuming at this point.  All CAPS posting storm to follow shortly.

Right.  Don't act like you didn't see the headline and jump all over this without doing any kind of analysis of whether the charge is legitimate, politically motivated, etc. 

Any freedom-loving American should be concerned about how government is trying to persecute this man and his family solely because they disagree with his politics and are afraid he might run and win again in 2024. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2022, 02:46:55 PM
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Wednesday on FNC’s “America Reports” that New York State Attorney General Letitia James’s lawsuit against former President Donald Trump and his adult children was a “political hit job.”

Barr said, “It’s hard for me not to conclude it’s a political hit job. This is a woman who campaigned for office promising she was going to go after Trump, which I think is a tremendous abuse of office to go headhunting and targeting individuals. So I think she was targeting Trump.”

He continued, “This is after three years a civil lawsuit, the gist of which is when the Trump organization borrowed money, Trump personally guaranteed those loans, and to support that, she’s claiming that he inflated his assets on his financial statements. I’m not even sure she has a good case against Trump himself, but what ultimately persuades me that this is a political hit job is she grossly overreaches when she tries to drag the children into this.”

Barr added, “Yes, they had roles in the business, but this was his personal financial statement. It was prepared by the CFO, accounting firms were involved in it. The children aren’t going to know the details of that, nor are they expected in the real world to do their own due diligence and have it reviewed independently.”

He concluded, “This to me looks like gross overreach, which I think is going to end up backfiring on them. I think it will make people sympathetic for Trump. This is another example of people piling on because of Trump derangement syndrome, you know, this strong entire to punish him.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/09/21/bill-barr-ny-state-ag-trump-lawsuit-political-hit-job-dragging-children-in-gross-overreach/
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: ThisisOverload on September 21, 2022, 04:37:57 PM
Right.  Don't act like you didn't see the headline and jump all over this without doing any kind of analysis of whether the charge is legitimate, politically motivated, etc. 

Any freedom-loving American should be concerned about how government is trying to persecute this man and his family solely because they disagree with his politics and are afraid he might run and win again in 2024.

Absolutely.

It's not hard to file a suit against someone.

I'm not the biggest fan of Trump, but it is quite obvious he is getting unfairly targeted for politic motive.

My uncle was a county commissioner in Texas, he almost lost everything he owned and was shunned out of politics due to a false allegation against him. After being in and out of court for over a year, he was cleared of any and all wrong doing. It was a complete fraud to make him look bad.

And it worked. Ruined his career.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 04:39:10 PM
It’s not spin numb nuts it’s a fact. It’s also a fact that’s there’s only 49 days left to the mid-terms and she’s down in the polls to a Republican . This dumb bitches entire platform was to get Trump so much her entire state has gone to shit

Pretty sure the “facts” are what I listed. 

Grossly inflated property values
200+ lies told about it
Kids involved

Your post is “fact”.  It never is.  It’s just conjecture.   As usual.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 04:42:09 PM
Right.  Don't act like you didn't see the headline and jump all over this without doing any kind of analysis of whether the charge is legitimate, politically motivated, etc. 

Any freedom-loving American should be concerned about how government is trying to persecute this man and his family solely because they disagree with his politics and are afraid he might run and win again in 2024.

Pretty sure it is legitimate.  Inflating the values 10x what it should be?  Pretty sure the numbers to that is legitimate and written somewhere that can be verified.   Are you saying they just made everything up?

Politically motivated?  Didn’t Trumpy already try that excuse?   Remind us again what was the outcome?

Are you saying no crime occurred?  “Any freedom loving American” should be concerned that the person - who ran twice and got less votes each time than his opponent (and this is suppose to scare someone?  ::)  ) - would expect to get away with something that no one else would be allowed to.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 04:47:51 PM
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Wednesday on FNC’s “America Reports” that New York State Attorney General Letitia James’s lawsuit against former President Donald Trump and his adult children was a “political hit job.”

Barr said, “It’s hard for me not to conclude it’s a political hit job. This is a woman who campaigned for office promising she was going to go after Trump, which I think is a tremendous abuse of office to go headhunting and targeting individuals. So I think she was targeting Trump.”

He continued, “This is after three years a civil lawsuit, the gist of which is when the Trump organization borrowed money, Trump personally guaranteed those loans, and to support that, she’s claiming that he inflated his assets on his financial statements. I’m not even sure she has a good case against Trump himself, but what ultimately persuades me that this is a political hit job is she grossly overreaches when she tries to drag the children into this.”

Barr added, “Yes, they had roles in the business, but this was his personal financial statement. It was prepared by the CFO, accounting firms were involved in it. The children aren’t going to know the details of that, nor are they expected in the real world to do their own due diligence and have it reviewed independently.”

He concluded, “This to me looks like gross overreach, which I think is going to end up backfiring on them. I think it will make people sympathetic for Trump. This is another example of people piling on because of Trump derangement syndrome, you know, this strong entire to punish him.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/09/21/bill-barr-ny-state-ag-trump-lawsuit-political-hit-job-dragging-children-in-gross-overreach/

No crime occurred?  Great.  Should be an easy win with easily proven facts.   ;D
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 05:08:47 PM
Absolutely.

It's not hard to file a suit against someone.

I'm not the biggest fan of Trump, but it is quite obvious he is getting unfairly targeted for politic motive.

My uncle was a county commissioner in Texas, he almost lost everything he owned and was shunned out of politics due to a false allegation against him. After being in and out of court for over a year, he was cleared of any and all wrong doing. It was a complete fraud to make him look bad.

And it worked. Ruined his career.

Sorry to hear about your uncle.  Unfortunately, that's not an isolated incident. 

Do you recall Andrew Weismann was Mueller's chief lapdog during the Russia hoax?  Go read about what Weismann did to the late Senator Ted Stevens or the people who ran Arther Andersen.  It's criminal.  And that fool is still all over MSMBC as a commentator.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: IroNat on September 21, 2022, 05:09:35 PM
Lurker/Straw has major TDS.

Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 05:10:45 PM
Pretty sure it is legitimate.  Inflating the values 10x what it should be?  Pretty sure the numbers to that is legitimate and written somewhere that can be verified.   Are you saying they just made everything up?

Politically motivated?  Didn’t Trumpy already try that excuse?   Remind us again what was the outcome?

Are you saying no crime occurred?  “Any freedom loving American” should be concerned that the person - who ran twice and got less votes each time than his opponent (and this is suppose to scare someone?  ::)  ) - would expect to get away with something that no one else would be allowed to.

You're pretty sure it is legitimate, despite likely not reading one word of their 200+ page filing. 

Getting less overall votes is absolutely meaningless in presidential elections, especially when you put the California numbers in context.  It's a ridiculous talking point. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 05:12:05 PM
Lurker/Straw has major TDS.

Sorry you feel obligated to make excuses for facts.

Tell us where these facts hurt you. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 05:14:01 PM
You're pretty sure it is legitimate, despite likely not reading one word of their 200+ page filing. 

Getting less overall votes is absolutely meaningless in presidential elections, especially when you put the California numbers in context.  It's a ridiculous talking point.

I’m pretty sure there is documented evidence that supports their accusations.   You don’t think so?  Tell us why.  Surely they didn’t make the numbers up did they?
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: IroNat on September 21, 2022, 05:18:26 PM
Sorry you feel obligated to make excuses for facts.

Tell us where these facts hurt you. 

It doesn't hurt me.

Just makes you look obsessed by Trump and afraid of him running in 2024.

You're so scared it's pathetic.  Get a hold of yourself, man.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 05:21:34 PM
I’m pretty sure there is documented evidence that supports their accusations.   You don’t think so?  Tell us why.  Surely they didn’t make the numbers up did they?

I don't know, because I haven't read it.  I will eventually read up on it and follow the facts wherever they lead. 

I will also keep in mind that the person who filed this lawsuit vowed during her 2018 campaign that she would get Trump, whom she called an "embarrassment" and an "illegitimate president." 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 05:22:00 PM
It doesn't hurt me.

Just makes you look obsessed by Trump and afraid of him running in 2024.

You're so scared it's pathetic.  Get a hold of yourself, man.

Truth.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: MCWAY on September 21, 2022, 05:31:34 PM
The banks let him borrow the money; he paid them back.

The problem here would be.......(other than NY AG struggling in the polls to keep her job).
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 05:33:06 PM
It doesn't hurt me.

Just makes you look obsessed by Trump and afraid of him running in 2024.

You're so scared it's pathetic.  Get a hold of yourself, man.

No one is scared.  ::)

The fact you think anyone is renders your opinion irrelevant.  Perhaps next time refute the facts at hand instead of deflection, denial and “don’t talk about it” and you might have a point.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 21, 2022, 05:37:08 PM
[quote  author=MCWAY link=topic=681007.msg9857272#msg9857272 date=1663806694]
The banks let him borrow the money; he paid them back.

The problem here would be.......(other than NY AG struggling in the polls to keep her job).
[/quote]

The problem is fraud from misrepresentation of asset values.  If you did this, would banks lend you money?   

Don’t worry, it’s all a misunderstanding.  They transposed the numbered.  His writing was ineligible.   Despite this occurring over a decade, everyone involved is a racist and the appraiser just low balled the true value of the assets anyway.   Always someone else fault.  :D
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 21, 2022, 05:45:04 PM
It doesn't hurt me.

Just makes you look obsessed by Trump and afraid of him running in 2024.

You're so scared it's pathetic.  Get a hold of yourself, man.

I don't actually think you believe what you just wrote.  I'm pretty certain that you are fucking with Lurker.  As someone (me) who shares probably most of Lurker's political leanings, let me assure you that the last thing we (no homo) want is Trump to NOT be the nominee.  His running gives whoever the Dem's put up their best chance of winning.  But, I don't actually know you so I freely admit I could be wrong in my assessment. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
I don't actually think you believe what you just wrote.  I'm pretty certain that you are fucking with Lurker.  As someone (me) who shares probably most of Lurker's political leanings, let me assure you that the last thing we (no homo) want is Trump to NOT be the nominee.  His running gives whoever the Dem's put up their best chance of winning.  But, I don't actually know you so I freely admit I could be wrong in my assessment.

You might want Trump to be the nominee, but Democrats are deathly afraid of Trump being the nominee.  That's the only reason for that January 6 facade.  The only reason Biden is using the DOJ to try and prosecute him.  The only reasons the NY AG is targeting him.  They are afraid that if he runs he will win.  They are probably right. 

This is nothing like 2016 where they propped Trump up thinking he would be easy to beat.  That backfired and they learned their lesson.  lol
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 21, 2022, 05:55:53 PM
You might want Trump to be the nominee, but Democrats are deathly afraid of Trump being the nominee.  That's the only reason for that January 6 facade.  The only reason Biden is using the DOJ to try and prosecute him.  The only reasons the NY AG is targeting him.  They are afraid that if he runs he will win.  They are probably right. 

This is nothing like 2016 where they propped Trump up thinking he would be easy to beat.  That backfired and they learned their lesson.  lol

We disagree here for the most part save for them learning their lesson as evidenced by the shellacking Biden gave Trump in 2020.  Boom!   ;D
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2022, 05:56:40 PM
Grossly inflating  values
Telling over 200+ lies
Kiddos got punched in the mouth by the lawsuit too
Fraud fraud fraud

Good thing the special master in the FBI raid is in NY.  Trumpy can just bop over to that office on alternative days for that investigation.   ;D  It would suck for Trumpy to have to fly back and forth all the time between different states when his supporters haven’t gotten that new jet paid for yet.   :D

Now let’s get all the denial, excuse making, spin, deflection, misinformation and spin started.
It's great people like you don't get to sit on jury's, convicting a man and his family based on media driven hysteria. You're far too easily manipulated, pleeb.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: IroNat on September 21, 2022, 05:57:06 PM
I don't actually think you believe what you just wrote.  I'm pretty certain that you are fucking with Lurker.  As someone (me) who shares probably most of Lurker's political leanings, let me assure you that the last thing we (no homo) want is Trump to NOT be the nominee.  His running gives whoever the Dem's put up their best chance of winning.  But, I don't actually know you so I freely admit I could be wrong in my assessment. 

Lurker has major TDS.

Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2022, 05:57:35 PM
We disagree here for the most part save for them learning their lesson as evidenced by the shellacking Biden gave Trump the elite gave this country in 2020.  Boom!   ;D
:o
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 21, 2022, 05:57:57 PM
It's great people like you don't get to sit on jury's, convicting a man and his family based on media driven hysteria. You're far too easily manipulated, pleeb.

I was on a jury for a rape trial once.  I led the charge in acquitting a negro. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2022, 05:59:04 PM
I was on a jury for a rape trial once.  I led the charge in acquitting a negro.
Did your uncle thank you afterward? :D
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: MCWAY on September 21, 2022, 06:05:14 PM
The problem is fraud from misrepresentation of asset values.  If you did this, would banks lend you money?   

Don’t worry, it’s all a misunderstanding.  They transposed the numbered.  His writing was ineligible.   Despite this occurring over a decade, everyone involved is a racist and the appraiser just low balled the true value of the assets anyway.   Always someone else fault.  :D

Is James blubbering on the banks' behalf? The banks didn't seem to have an issue.

At the end of the day, no matter how much they loaned Trump, he paid them back.

Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 21, 2022, 06:12:44 PM
Did your uncle thank you afterward? :D

Nah, it was my cousint!
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: sync pulse on September 21, 2022, 06:13:32 PM
Is James blubbering on the banks' behalf? The banks didn't seem to have an issue.

At the end of the day, no matter how much they loaned Trump, he paid them back.

His companies declared chapter 11 bankruptcy 4 times...

A lot of his creditors were small time...people without the resources to give him shit about it.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 21, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
Lurker maybe more fucked in the head than Strawman
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 09:01:01 PM
We disagree here for the most part save for them learning their lesson as evidenced by the shellacking Biden gave Trump in 2020.  Boom!   ;D

Shellacking?  Not if you deal with those pesky facts:

The tight races in the trio of states had a big electoral impact. As NPR's Domenico Montanaro has put it, "just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College."

Narrow Wins In These Key States Powered Biden To The Presidency
December 2, 2020
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/940689086/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 09:03:29 PM
Is James blubbering on the banks' behalf? The banks didn't seem to have an issue.

At the end of the day, no matter how much they loaned Trump, he paid them back.

Correct.  Where are the victims?
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 21, 2022, 09:54:59 PM
Shellacking?  Not if you deal with those pesky facts:

The tight races in the trio of states had a big electoral impact. As NPR's Domenico Montanaro has put it, "just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College."

Narrow Wins In These Key States Powered Biden To The Presidency
December 2, 2020
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/940689086/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency

Almost 8 million more Americans wanted Biden than Trump.  That sucks. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2022, 10:45:58 PM
Almost 8 million more Americans wanted Biden than Trump.  That sucks.

When you put those numbers in context, they are meaningless.  The 2016 Hillary spread came entirely from California.  I haven't checked 2020, but it's probably the same or close, with the rest coming from New York. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 21, 2022, 11:07:14 PM
When you put those numbers in context, they are meaningless.  The 2016 Hillary spread came entirely from California.  I haven't checked 2020, but it's probably the same or close, with the rest coming from New York.

Sure but if we look at deep red states like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and West Virginia we would probably find out millions of people who would vote Democrat don't bother as they know it's hopeless.  All that being said, if a Republican ever wins the popular vote and loses electorally, I'll bet the farm we'll start seeing movement towards changing if not eliminating the electoral college.  I personally think it's antiquated.  I'd like to see whomever gets the most votes period be the winner.  In the current format we may have 10's of millions of votes every election that just don't count.  I think all votes should count.  I also think if it was most votes wins, we'd get much better turn out and be on our way to a true democracy. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Moontrane on September 22, 2022, 01:47:30 AM
Sure but if we look at deep red states like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and West Virginia we would probably find out millions of people who would vote Democrat don't bother as they know it's hopeless.  All that being said, if a Republican ever wins the popular vote and loses electorally, I'll bet the farm we'll start seeing movement towards changing if not eliminating the electoral college.  I personally think it's antiquated.  I'd like to see whomever gets the most votes period be the winner.  In the current format we may have 10's of millions of votes every election that just don't count.  I think all votes should count.  I also think if it was most votes wins, we'd get much better turn out and be on our way to a true democracy.


You would lose that bet.

Correct me if I’m mistaken, but you seem to be alluding to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.  True?

Democrats want the Popular Vote to prevail in national elections because, in theory, they would have won five additional presidential elections over the years. 

The Popular Vote ends the duopoly, meaning that there can be any number of candidates vying for the biggest slice of the electorate,

Clinton won in 1992 through the Electoral College with just 43% of the Popular Vote.  Via the Popular Vote, someone could be elected president with just 35% of the vote (maybe less, so long as it's a plurality).  A minor revolution every 4 years.

Imagine that six candidates run (Why stop at six?) and five get 15% each, and one gets 25%.  That’s how we get a President Stephen Colbert or Joe Rogan.  There would be political parties for every minor interest, and the ensuing political turmoil from the Popular Vote would be immediate and unending.

I prefer that something else, usually north of 45% of the electorate, picks our president. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: IroNat on September 22, 2022, 03:52:30 AM
Civil suit...not criminal = grasping for straws by Ms. James.

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/ZqlvCTNHpqrio/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b952bf92ad64d0573ca668a7cc4623a4a071c700fa99&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 05:57:44 AM
I don't know, because I haven't read it.  I will eventually read up on it and follow the facts wherever they lead. 

I will also keep in mind that the person who filed this lawsuit vowed during her 2018 campaign that she would get Trump, whom she called an "embarrassment" and an "illegitimate president."


And yet you are pretty sure that it isn’t legitimate despite note reading. Single page of the 200+ filing. 

You should also keep in kind it spans over a decade.  And involves someone is an embarrassment- and habitual liar- and has made many attempts to become an illegitimate president.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 06:01:13 AM
I don't actually think you believe what you just wrote.  I'm pretty certain that you are fucking with Lurker.  As someone (me) who shares probably most of Lurker's political leanings, let me assure you that the last thing we (no homo) want is Trump to NOT be the nominee.  His running gives whoever the Dem's put up their best chance of winning.  But, I don't actually know you so I freely admit I could be wrong in my assessment.

His reply was for his own benefit.  No one else’s.  When Trumpturds have nothing on hand to deal with facts they start up with the “scared” excuse or just start talking about someone else.   It’s a coping mechanism.

No one in their right mind would be scared of a candidate that has gotten less votes than his opponent in every election he has been in.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 06:03:52 AM
It's great people like you don't get to sit on jury's, convicting a man and his family based on media driven hysteria. You're far too easily manipulated, pleeb.

It’s great people like you don’t get to sit on jury’s, convicting a man and his family based on crimes that most likely all the evidence supports. You are far too easy conned lemming.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 06:05:00 AM
Lurker has major TDS.


Facts = TDS in your world?   Thanks for proving me correct.   :)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 06:06:30 AM
Lurker maybe more fucked in the head than Strawman

Says the board retard.   ::)

Facts hurt that little tumbleweed in your cranium?
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 06:08:24 AM
Sure but if we look at deep red states like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and West Virginia we would probably find out millions of people who would vote Democrat don't bother as they know it's hopeless.  All that being said, if a Republican ever wins the popular vote and loses electorally, I'll bet the farm we'll start seeing movement towards changing if not eliminating the electoral college.  I personally think it's antiquated.  I'd like to see whomever gets the most votes period be the winner.  In the current format we may have 10's of millions of votes every election that just don't count.  I think all votes should count.  I also think if it was most votes wins, we'd get much better turn out and be on our way to a true democracy.


It would be “rigged”.    Repubs wouldn’t ever win an election again without the EC.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: The Gov on September 22, 2022, 06:10:24 AM

Facts = TDS in your world?   Thanks for proving me correct.   :)

humiliated numerous times in this thread as I said, at least you might not have to go out and service old homeless men that look like Biden....
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2022, 06:47:36 AM
His companies declared chapter 11 bankruptcy 4 times...

A lot of his creditors were small time...people without the resources to give him shit about it.

You do realize filing 4 BK’s in the over 500 + businesses he has and with his name on is an unbelievably stellar record, right? This “bombshell” never panned out and is always used as an excuse by the left and Trump haters alike.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 22, 2022, 08:39:37 AM
Dumb bitch knew she couldn’t get him on any charges so here’s her last resort..🙄

This will be yet another “bombshell” that will blow up in Lurkers face…lol


I don't think so.   For something like this, there would be extensive paperwork and if you overvalue your assets for loans then its committing fraud against the bank
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: MCWAY on September 22, 2022, 08:53:48 AM

It would be “rigged”.    Repubs wouldn’t ever win an election again without the EC.

NOBODY would ever win an election without the EC. That's the way the Constitution works. Every president has been put in the White House by the EC (directly or indirectly...i.e. VP gets elevated after president dies).
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on September 22, 2022, 08:55:27 AM
Nothing will come of this.

She campaigned on going after Trump so she had to do something, now, after all that, it's "overestimating property values to get better lending rates from banks".

So she's the champion of the banks?

NY has so many fucking problems, most importantly the streets are unsafe now.

All these sideshows distract from that.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 09:03:56 AM
Amazing that so many think lying and bank fraud are ok.   :D
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 22, 2022, 09:04:19 AM
Amazing that so many think lying and bank fraud are ok.   :D

You voted for Biden and Hillary - sit down . 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 22, 2022, 09:06:34 AM
Nothing will come of this.

She campaigned on going after Trump so she had to do something, now, after all that, it's "overestimating property values to get better lending rates from banks".

So she's the champion of the banks?

NY has so many fucking problems, most importantly the streets are unsafe now.

All these sideshows distract from that.

The FNG banks order an appraisal as a condition of the loan approvals.  Did they complain?   Did they say their appraisal companies screwed up?  Did Trump default on loans and the banks complain they were lied to and defrauded?    This entire thing is a laughable joke. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 22, 2022, 09:44:32 AM
The FNG banks order an appraisal as a condition of the loan approvals.  Did they complain?   Did they say their appraisal companies screwed up?  Did Trump default on loans and the banks complain they were lied to and defrauded?    This entire thing is a laughable joke.

Its pretty serious but I will agree with you on appraisals as Donald Trump would have no direct involvement in giving that number.   Not only that, she is basing the value of Donald Trump's apartment on square footage only and stated that no apartment has ever sold for that amount which may be true but no-one has ever had an apartment like Donald Trump.  The walls and structure is lined in 24k gold and marble.   Its not just sheet rock and nails.

(https://www.travelandleisure.com/thmb/DmvIe6bJNCul3ZBoyrUZLpu1sz0=/1600x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/trump-tower-penthouse-chandelier-PENTHOUSE1116-626376c07ec34415b7312d9ff425c8e1.jpg)

(https://www.idesignarch.com/wp-content/uploads/Donald-Melania-Trump-Manhattan-Penthouse_2.jpg)

(https://www.idesignarch.com/wp-content/uploads/Donald-Melania-Trump-Manhattan-Penthouse_8.jpg)


In any appraisal, there's more to it than just square feet but also location.   It will still be a hard if not difficult case without some collaboration from the appraisers and to be honest, the bank would have likely conducted their own appraisal before giving out a loan...no-one is just going to hand someone millions of dollars without one
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on September 22, 2022, 10:14:10 AM
Amazing that so many think lying and bank fraud are ok.   :D

Lying is everywhere, and I know you know this is BS, and would not disagree with SC's assessment.

What I'm not OK with is the FBI / DOJ / AGs / CDC / Big tech, etc. all being used for political purposes, even more so when there are REAL problems - inflation, the border, Russia, city crime, rising education and healthcare costs,  etc.

We're in a mess.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on September 22, 2022, 10:15:02 AM
Its pretty serious but I will agree with you on appraisals as Donald Trump would have no direct involvement in giving that number.   Not only that, she is basing the value of Donald Trump's apartment on square footage only and stated that no apartment has ever sold for that amount which may be true but no-one has ever had an apartment like Donald Trump.  The walls and structure is lined in 24k gold and marble.   Its not just sheet rock and nails.

(https://www.travelandleisure.com/thmb/DmvIe6bJNCul3ZBoyrUZLpu1sz0=/1600x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/trump-tower-penthouse-chandelier-PENTHOUSE1116-626376c07ec34415b7312d9ff425c8e1.jpg)

(https://www.idesignarch.com/wp-content/uploads/Donald-Melania-Trump-Manhattan-Penthouse_2.jpg)

(https://www.idesignarch.com/wp-content/uploads/Donald-Melania-Trump-Manhattan-Penthouse_8.jpg)


In any appraisal, there's more to it than just square feet but also location.   It will still be a hard if not difficult case without some collaboration from the appraisers and to be honest, the bank would have likely conducted their own appraisal before giving out a loan...no-one is just going to hand someone millions of dollars without one

Regardless of price, that shit is ugly
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 22, 2022, 11:43:33 AM
Regardless of price, that shit is ugly


Yea. .i wouldnt have all of this shit
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: residue on September 22, 2022, 12:16:31 PM

Yea. .i wouldnt have all of this shit

makes sense he married an eastern euro, if youve ever met any of them that have come into money you know what i mean. gaudy is their life's motto
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 22, 2022, 03:16:13 PM
You voted for Biden and Hillary - sit down .

You lost your mind over Obama and still haven't found it yet.

Sit down.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2022, 06:19:47 PM
Sure but if we look at deep red states like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and West Virginia we would probably find out millions of people who would vote Democrat don't bother as they know it's hopeless.  All that being said, if a Republican ever wins the popular vote and loses electorally, I'll bet the farm we'll start seeing movement towards changing if not eliminating the electoral college.  I personally think it's antiquated.  I'd like to see whomever gets the most votes period be the winner.  In the current format we may have 10's of millions of votes every election that just don't count.  I think all votes should count.  I also think if it was most votes wins, we'd get much better turn out and be on our way to a true democracy.

No one ever wins the popular vote because there is no popular vote contest. 

Thank God for the Electoral College.  I don't want those nuts in California picking our president.  Our system is awesome.  Except for the people who screw it up. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 22, 2022, 07:17:23 PM
No one ever wins the popular vote because there is no popular vote contest. 

Thank God for the Electoral College.  I don't want those nuts in California picking our president.  Our system is awesome.  Except for the people who screw it up.

Or deny that it works. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 22, 2022, 07:20:32 PM
It’s great people like you don’t get to sit on jury’s, convicting a man and his family based on crimes that most likely all the evidence supports. You are far too easy conned lemming.
I didn't realize you were a prosecutor, privy to all the juicy information that the public doesn't get to see and not just the lame bullshit your tv tells you to believe. ::)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on September 22, 2022, 07:22:14 PM
Dumb bitch knew she couldn’t get him on any charges so here’s her last resort..🙄

This will be yet another “bombshell” that will blow up in Lurkers face…lol

I am of the understanding that the New York State Attorney General cannot bring charges against a person. The attorney general advises the executive branch of state government and defends actions and proceedings on behalf of the state. In New York, the state attorney general’s office is only allowed to prosecute a limited range of offenses on its own, like bid rigging and payroll violations. Rather than it being Ms. James last resort it is pretty much the only option she has.

She did the next best thing. New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office sent a criminal referral to U.S. prosecutors in Manhattan and the IRS regarding possible federal crimes uncovered during an investigation into Donald Trump, his business and family members. It is up to them whether or not to bring charges against him for these related activities.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 22, 2022, 07:22:16 PM
Sure but if we look at deep red states like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina and West Virginia we would probably find out millions of people who would vote Democrat don't bother as they know it's hopeless.  All that being said, if a Republican ever wins the popular vote and loses electorally, I'll bet the farm we'll start seeing movement towards changing if not eliminating the electoral college.  I personally think it's antiquated.  I'd like to see whomever gets the most votes period be the winner.  In the current format we may have 10's of millions of votes every election that just don't count.  I think all votes should count.  I also think if it was most votes wins, we'd get much better turn out and be on our way to a true democracy.
And if we checked liberal hellhole like CA, NY, OR, WA I would expect to find millions of Republicans that didn't bother to vote as they know it's hopeless. ;)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Dos Equis on September 22, 2022, 08:08:35 PM
And if we checked liberal hellhole like CA, NY, OR, WA I would expect to find millions of Republicans that didn't bother to vote as they know it's hopeless. ;)

Crazy to think that Ronald Reagan was elected governor of California. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: AbrahamG on September 22, 2022, 09:12:26 PM
And if we checked liberal hellhole like CA, NY, OR, WA I would expect to find millions of Republicans that didn't bother to vote as they know it's hopeless. ;)

Let's make sure all votes count/matter.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 23, 2022, 08:28:02 AM
I didn't realize you were a prosecutor, privy to all the juicy information that the public doesn't get to see and not just the lame bullshit your tv tells you to believe. ::)

I'm not.  Neither are you, so your original statement of being on a jury is irrelevant once again, by your own words this time.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 23, 2022, 08:30:01 AM
I am of the understanding that the New York State Attorney General cannot bring charges against a person. The attorney general advises the executive branch of state government and defends actions and proceedings on behalf of the state. In New York, the state attorney general’s office is only allowed to prosecute a limited range of offenses on its own, like bid rigging and payroll violations. Rather than it being Ms. James last resort it is pretty much the only option she has.

She did the next best thing. New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office sent a criminal referral to U.S. prosecutors in Manhattan and the IRS regarding possible federal crimes uncovered during an investigation into Donald Trump, his business and family members. It is up to them whether or not to bring charges against him for these related activities.

Qoach Todd has proven he doesn't understand anything about how the legal system works.  He doesn't understand the basics of civil vs criminal, subpoenas, affidavit, etc...
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2022, 08:35:04 AM
Qoach Todd has proven he doesn't understand anything about how the legal system works.  He doesn't understand the basics of civil vs criminal, subpoenas, affidavit, etc...

Let’s live debate, mouth
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Grape Ape on September 23, 2022, 12:25:17 PM
Let’s live debate, mouth

Code Duello or Dutchess of Queensbury rules?
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 23, 2022, 01:58:04 PM
Let’s live debate, mouth

 ::)

You can't debate or post worthwhile when you got Google right at your fingertips. 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2022, 03:47:23 PM
::)

You can't debate or post worthwhile when you got Google right at your fingertips.

I ask for live to not use Google. If I wanted to debate using Google or any other search engine we can just keep doing what we’re doing 🙄
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 23, 2022, 07:37:47 PM
I'm not.  Neither are you, so your original statement of being on a jury is irrelevant once again, by your own words this time.
My original statement stands. You would prosecute based on what your tv says, not facts. You're a horribly easily manipulated person. You should be ashamed for being so simple.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 23, 2022, 07:40:30 PM
Let's make sure all votes count/matter.
It would be interesting to see what would happen in an all votes matter election.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 24, 2022, 11:26:13 AM
My original statement stands. You would prosecute based on what your tv says, not facts. You're a horribly easily manipulated person. You should be ashamed for being so simple.

Says a Trumpy supporter.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 24, 2022, 11:27:33 AM
I ask for live to not use Google. If I wanted to debate using Google or any other search engine we can just keep doing what we’re doing 🙄

You can't debate here on the internet when you have access to Google to fact check or clarify anything.

What makes anyone think you will be any less retarded in person?  You would perform even below Trumpy, MyPillow and MTG levels combined.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: The Gov on September 24, 2022, 02:58:50 PM
You can't debate here on the internet when you have access to Google to fact check or clarify anything.

What makes anyone think you will be any less retarded in person?  You would perform even below Trumpy, MyPillow and MTG levels combined.

says the PedoCuck  ::)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on September 24, 2022, 03:41:41 PM
I ask for live to not use Google. If I wanted to debate using Google or any other search engine we can just keep doing what we’re doing 🙄

What channel will this debate be on so we can watch it? Does Huntington Beach have a public access TV channel? If not, maybe you could video the debate and post it on YouTube.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Primemuscle on September 24, 2022, 04:45:01 PM
I didn't realize you were a prosecutor, privy to all the juicy information that the public doesn't get to see and not just the lame bullshit your tv tells you to believe. ::)

It’s great people like you don’t get to sit on jury’s, convicting a man and his family based on crimes that most likely all the evidence supports. You are far too easy conned lemming.

Serving as a juror in a trial may be the best opportunity to draw the closest thing to an accurate conclusion as to someone's guilt or innocence, although this depends on the expertise of the lawyers and the judge... 'blind justice'.

I have served as a juror several times over the years on various kinds of cases, when someone charged with tax evasion who as it turned out was a tax objector, in the 2021 jury pool in the last of the four appeals trials for Dayton LeRoy Rogers an infamous Oregon serial killer, and a woman charged with a DUII whose defense was that she had an impairment that made it seem like she was drunk when she wasn't, and who started her car which had a IIDs installed because of a previous DUII Most of us jurors believed was guilty. Unfortunately, the prosecutor screwed it up failing to prove the case against her.   
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2022, 05:59:18 PM
You can't debate here on the internet when you have access to Google to fact check or clarify anything.

What makes anyone think you will be any less retarded in person?  You would perform even below Trumpy, MyPillow and MTG levels combined.

So you won’t. Got it

Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2022, 04:37:57 PM


What makes anyone think you will be any less retarded in person?  You would perform even below Trumpy, MyPillow and MTG levels combined.

Yet no one will debate them..
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 25, 2022, 06:08:57 PM
Says a Trumpy supporter.
Like I used to tell your bff strawman, find my posts supporting Trump. Let's compare. Making fun of you and your retarded political ideology isn't the same as supporting the other side.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 26, 2022, 08:33:05 AM
says the PedoCuck  ::)

Says the PedoCuck's #1 fan.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 26, 2022, 08:34:12 AM
So you won’t. Got it

So you can't.  Got it.

Why you think anyone would waste their time with a retarded geriatric that can not process simple facts or understand basic reality is beyond me.  But that is the La La Land you live in.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 26, 2022, 08:35:06 AM
If the banks all got paid back all of the money on these loans - there is no victim.   WTF is this stupid suit all about? 
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 26, 2022, 08:36:08 AM
Yet no one will debate them..

Because no one is going to waste their time debating liars and incels.

When you wrestle pigs (and retards) you both get dirty.  Except the pig was already dirty and likes it.  Same with delusional idiots like yourself.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 26, 2022, 08:37:26 AM
Like I used to tell your bff strawman, find my posts supporting Trump. Let's compare. Making fun of you and your retarded political ideology isn't the same as supporting the other side.

Says the person who's generic response to facts is usually "TDS" replies on here.   ::)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 26, 2022, 05:44:48 PM
Says the person who's generic response to facts is usually "TDS" replies on here.   ::)
I call it how I see it, Tom (Trump Obsessed Moron)

If the banks all got paid back all of the money on these loans - there is no victim.   WTF is this stupid suit all about? 
More media bullshit, keeping Trump in the limelight as the bad guy to deflect from this horrible administration.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 26, 2022, 06:17:08 PM
So you can't.  Got it.

Why you think anyone would waste their time with a retarded geriatric that can not process simple facts or understand basic reality is beyond me.  But that is the La La Land you live in.

Really? The best way to get a liberal to run is call them out to debate and present the facts. If it’s done publicly it kills their credibility. If you actually thought this, you would want your side to debate the other. Levine always calls high profile leftists (any leftist) to come on his shows to debate, Hannity offers his radio show time as well as his TV times (the full length of the shows to debate), still waiting for AOC to debate MTG from last year that she agreed too. You only find your side doing soft ball interviews on networks that only support them. Bottom line, they’re cowards.

Now why do you suppose this is?




Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 27, 2022, 04:28:28 PM
Really? The best way to get a liberal to run is call them out to debate and present the facts. If it’s done publicly it kills their credibility. If you actually thought this, you would want your side to debate the other. Levine always calls high profile leftists (any leftist) to come on his shows to debate, Hannity offers his radio show time as well as his TV times (the full length of the shows to debate), still waiting for AOC to debate MTG from last year that she agreed too. You only find your side doing soft ball interviews on networks that only support them. Bottom line, they’re cowards.

Now why do you suppose this is?

You don't have facts.  Or credibility.  All you have when confronted is the "lol" reply.

No one can dumb themselves down to your level and you sure as hell can't smarten up enough for anything else.  Exactly why no one is wasting time or energy on MyPillowLie or MTG.   ::)
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 27, 2022, 04:29:07 PM
I call it how I see it, Tom (Trump Obsessed Moron)


With your head so far up Trumpys ass, you don't exactly "see" anything.
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: chaos on September 27, 2022, 05:53:26 PM
With your head so far up Trumpys ass, you don't exactly "see" anything.
Can you give an example of this, Tom?
Title: Re: NY civil suit against Trumpy for fraud
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 27, 2022, 06:38:23 PM
Can you give an example of this, Tom?

It's all over the board TDS.