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Mark Kerr, the most dominant MMA HW in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and one of the most legendary users of anabolic steroids of all times. Lol at the part where Kerr injects Nubain in front of everyone....
Holy shit, the fights and fighters back in PRIDE were so vicious...it makes modern MMA seem like playing house in comparison...
And Vovchenchyn was a fucking monster. He looked like a guy who "trained" by eating cookies and drinking beer and yet he destroyed Kerr who outweighted him by 40 lbs and had less bodyfat. It just goes to show that some guys are built more powerfully and there is no amount of drugs that can make up for that...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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agreed. an incredible documentary. the vale tudo scenes were absolutely fucking brutal. 8)
honestly, everyone should watch this doc.
what's kerr up to these days ? i hope all is good for him. he seems like one of the good fellas !!
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agreed. an incredible documentary. the vale tudo scenes were absolutely fucking brutal. 8)
"Vale-tudo" in Portuguese translates literally into "everything goes", and this is exactly what it was. Traditional Brazilian vale-tudo, which gave birth to the UFC, is so gruesome and brutal that even guys who've seen war, like John McCain, were shocked by it and wanted to ban it from America. The only other fighting tournaments in the World that compare in brutality are Muay-Thai tournaments in Thailand.
In Brazilian Vale-tudo, the only two things that weren't allowed were eye gauging and biting. Everything else goes, from hitting opponents in the back of the head, head butting, stomping a downed opponent, etc. Even spitting inside the eyes of the opponent was allowed to make him temporarilly blind. The goal was the utter destruction of the other man with no rules or mercy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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dude looks like groink
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"Vale-tudo" in Portuguese translates literally into "everything goes", and this is exactly what it was. Traditional Brazilian vale-tudo, which gave birth to the UFC, is so gruesome and brutal that even guys who've seen war, like John McCain, were shocked by it and wanted to ban it from America. The only other fighting tournaments in the World that compare in brutality are Muay-Thai tournaments in Thailand.
In Brazilian Vale-tudo, the only two things that weren't allowed were eye gauging and biting. Everything else goes, from hitting opponents in the back of the head, head butting, stomping a downed opponent, etc. Even spitting inside the eyes of the opponent was allowed to make him temporarilly blind. The goal was the utter destruction of the other man with no rules or mercy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
a real 'genius' arent you, mr 176 IQ.
LOL! stupid fuck cant even spell 'eye gouge'. ::)
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I have this DVD, it is definitely a good watch.
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a real 'genius' arent you, mr 176 IQ.
LOL! stupid fuck cant even spell 'eye gouge'. ::)
he said 'eye gauging' what's wrong with that ? lol
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eye gauging
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Didnt he post on getbig back in the days
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=26081 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=26081)
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He was a car salesman in AZ , but who knows now.,
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The scenes where he's in the ring just raining down blows on his opponents. HOLY FUCK> How the fuck does he not just permanently paralyze people with those punches? They are brutal.
Agreed. THis documentary is outstanding.
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"Vale-tudo" in Portuguese translates literally into "everything goes", and this is exactly what it was. Traditional Brazilian vale-tudo, which gave birth to the UFC, is so gruesome and brutal that even guys who've seen war, like John McCain, were shocked by it and wanted to ban it from America. The only other fighting tournaments in the World that compare in brutality are Muay-Thai tournaments in Thailand.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
WTF are you talking about? Muay Thai fights are some of the lamest fights ever.
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LOL @ "even guys who've seen war, like John McCain, were shocked by it"... John McCain was a fighter pilot that was captured.
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Great flick, very well done with lots of drama ect. Havent seen it in while but remember it being pretty brutal. Lots of nasty beatdowns too lol. igor vovchanchyn was one scary mofo back then.
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The only other fighting tournaments in the World that compare in brutality are Muay-Thai tournaments in Thailand.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Umm - you may not be aware of this, but from the late 1960's through to when I competed in the early 90's (and perhaps even today, although I suspect the rise of MMA has killed it off), there was quite a large fighting circuit in South East Asia, open to all styles, that allowed bare fist or 'covered' (ie - very light foam knuckle shields) striking to all parts of the body excluding the eyes and the back of the head. Throwing was allowed and strikes to a downed opponent were allowed (no grappling though - we all thought we didn't need it and it was thought that good technique saw you standing or in a dominant striking position after a throw). Groin strikes were legal. Joint attacks were legal. In this sort of format I often saw the thai fighters struggle with the larger range of offense than they were used to - and yes - the fact that these fights were often more 'brutal' than a typical Muay Thai match gave them some problems occasionally.
I'm taking nothing away from the MT people - they are awesome and have a fucking fantastic art and usually did very well in this format. In my very first tournament I was knocked out cold by a thai dude climbing on my leg and kneeing me in the face - I have the utmost respect for them - but to say nothing was more brutal than Muay Thai bouts until Vale Tudo reached the masses is not correct.
As far as the Smashing Machine goes - it is the best documentary I've seen. Goddam perfect and so poignant - especially his part at the end with Coleman. And if you listen to the filmmakers commentary, he says something along the lines of it being a film about a man who was the very best in the world at what he did, but he didn't really enjoy doing it all that much. What an incredible way to look at Kerr.
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Awesome documentary saw it on HBO when it came out Kerr was a beast! was one of the most dominant MMA fighters ever till it fell apart!
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a real 'genius' arent you, mr 176 IQ.
LOL! stupid fuck cant even spell 'eye gouge'.
Lmao..tell me how you really feel about me, turd boy...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Mark doesn't like the Mexicans
I was born and raised in San Diego, CA. After years of scrimping and saving and sacrificing, I finally saved enough money to buy a modest older house in a quiet, clean, middle-class neighborhood. The homes were simple, and there were no Homeowner's Associations or clubhouses, but the lawns were green, the trees trimmed, the gardens well-kept, and my neighbors were quiet and friendly. It was perfect for me.
Until the illegals arrived.
Prior to the illegal invasion into my neighborhood, I didn't give illegal immigration much thought. But I remember feeling compassion for them, and feeling that we should give them a break. But the illegals destroyed every shred of compassion I had for them. In fact, I came to hate them.
My slide from compassion to loathing the illegals started back in 2000 when the housing prices in San Diego started to skyrocket. Many of my neighbors decided to cash in and move up to bigger houses and more upscale neighborhoods. Tragically, most of the new buyers in my neighborhood were slumlords looking to rent for awhile and then turn a profit by selling the house.
At first it wasn't too bad. There were just a handful of houses with illegals residing in them. But faster than I could deal with, things deteriorated to the point where my once-lovely neighborhood resembled a Tijuana slum.
Most of the illegals violated every zoning and health code there was. They couldn't afford trash pick-up, so they simply allowed their trash to pile up all over their driveways and lawns...attracting rats, flies and stray dogs.
They owned chickens and goats, which they slaughtered in their backyards. The roosters crowed all day long, and on hot summer days, the stench from the chicken and goat poop was almost unbearable. The fly population quadrupled!
Teenage "Latinas" turned tricks on bunkbeds in their garages. Hispanic men sat out on their driveways all night long and drank beer, jabbered in Spanish and blared their mariachi music.
Lawns died, weeds grew to enormous heights, gardens died, and grafitti started to show up everywhere.
One year, I noticed a trend of most of the illegals hanging Mexican flags on the front of their houses.
When I would come home from work at night, I was often greeted by chickens loitering on my lawn. And there was always chicken poop all over the sidewalks.
The police came and went on a regular basis...mostly due to complaints of noise or prostitution. But nothing ever changed. After awhile it almost seemed that if anybody called the police on the illegals, the police would get annoyed at us for bothering them!
One time I called the Planning Department to file a complaint about a illegal (and dangerous) structure one of the illegals was building, and the woman I spoke with actually suggested I was racist.
One day, I was up on my roof with my dad looking at some shingle issues, and as I looked down on my illegal neighbor's backyard, I spotted a Hispanic man defectating on a bush. Yes, you heard me right. I saw a Hispanic man pooping on a bush in his backyard! I guess that with 30 people sharing a 1-bath house, he must have gotten desperate.
I would see pregnant 14-year-old "Latinas" loitering on the corners when they should have been in school. I would see the "Latinas" in the grocery store, using their food stamps, with their huge broods of children (anchor babies) in tow.
But the last straw for me was the night I was in my living room, watching American Idol, and I heard a commotion in my backyard, along the side of my house. I went into my garage and looked out my garage window, and there were two illegals...two teenage girls...apparently hiding from the cops in my backyard! One of them was throwing up on my lawn mower!
Somebody had called the police because of the drugs and prostitution, so when they police arrived, the girls, obviously under the influence of drugs, bolted into my backyard.
So when I couldn't take it anymore. I sold my house and moved very far from California. And there is NOTHING you can tell me that will convince me that all the Mexican and Central American illegal immigrants in this country are GOOD for the U.S. Sorry, but that's not what I experienced.
I experienced filth...disgusting filth. I experienced a culture of grown men having sex with young girls (sometimes for money, sometimes not). I experienced dozens of people living in one small home, pooping in their backyards, slaughtering chickens and goats, and existing on public assistance. None of the women worked, and if the men were working, I don't know when. What I saw was a lot of beer-driinking and hanging out listening to music.
I saw how fast they could destroy a neighborhood with their neanderthal culture and their backward ways.
Because of the illegals, I left my home, my family, and a job I loved. I'm very happy where I am now (in the midwest), but I DREAD that they will do to this state, what they did to California.
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I think the reason guys like Mark Kerr so much is because he is pretty much the only professional athlete who not only admitted to drug use, but openly boasted about it. Mark Kerr once said he eats d-bol like candy. Steroids were not illegal in Japan where he fought, and all the other guys were taking them as well, so it's not like he was "cheating".
In this documentary, Kerr mainlines opiates in front of the camera, and says that it would be ridiculous for him to not drink beer for "health reasons" since he was taking "over ten injections a day". Brutal honesty!
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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all pills and needles
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Mark doesn't like the Mexicans
Wonder what his background is. He's obviously part white, but looks mixed. Part Native??
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Wonder what his background is. He's obviously part white, but looks mixed. Part Native??
Nah, he looks white to me. Tans well I'd say though. No melanotan 2 needed like myself
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Nah, he looks white to me. Tans well I'd say though. No melanotan 2 needed like myself
(http://www.fiveknuckles.com/assets/images/fighters/Mark-Kerr.jpg)
I'm not talking about his skin. His features look partly not white. Curly hair, lips, nose.
(http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&s=kerr-mark.jpg)
I consider him a 'white man' but he probably has a guy on the woodpile.
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a real 'genius' arent you, mr 176 IQ.
LOL! stupid fuck cant even spell 'eye gouge'. ::)
Haha ,I love how excited he gets when he talks about fighters (kerr, fedor .....),
SMM = TRUE BETA ,what a fagg0t hahaaha.
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Awesome documentary. Mark Kerr was a scary human being!
Vale Tudo!
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(http://www.fiveknuckles.com/assets/images/fighters/Mark-Kerr.jpg)
I'm not talking about his skin. His features look partly not white. Curly hair, lips, nose.
(http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&s=kerr-mark.jpg)
I consider him a 'white man' but he probably has a guy on the woodpile.
his folks and some random pics
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he is from Toledo, Ohio.... pure white bread
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he is from Toledo, Ohio.... pure white bread
his mom is half black, see pic above
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mark kerr with his athletic gift should have been able to accomplish a lot more then he did. He had a lack of heart/drive most likely related to his substance abuse. He really was similar to brock lesnar/shane carwin and some of these other fighters.
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love this documentary. haven't watched it in a while. thx for the link!!
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Igor Vovchanchyn beat that ass.
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The injection in the vein at 16:00sec mark makes him look like a heroin addict
But you gotta do whatcha gotta do to numb the pain
Try explaining those track marks to the boss or cops
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you get the impression from the doc. that his woman was the source of a lot of the shit in his lif then. unlike coleman with his settled/stable home life, young family and hottie wife
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Igor Vovchanchyn beat that ass.
igor vovchanchyn made the most with what he had. He was like a 230 lb permu bulker with primative submission skills and still won a lot of fights he had heart.
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igor vovchanchyn made the most with what he had. He was like a 230 lb permu bulker with primative submission skills and still won a lot of fights he had heart.
won 30 mma fights in a row, 116-12 combined mma and kickboxing record. if he was 6'3+ I doubt he would have ever lost a fight.
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Great Mark Kerr highlight:
Shame the drugs ruined the guy.
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Shame the drugs ruined the guy.
Drugs made him
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Damn.
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Drugs made him
The steroids, not the painkillers.
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The steroids, not the painkillers.
Both
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Damn.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=422997.0;attach=467514;image)
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anyone ever see his MMA fight with branko cikatic? Branko cheap shots him and Kerr gives him the beating of his life. A must see lol
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Mark Kerr was truly a smashing machine. There was a brief period of time around 1998 when there wasn't a single man on Earth who could beat him in a fight without weapons.
He could bench raw 500 lbs for a triple, and he could literally kill a man with a single punch. Most men who can bench raw 500 lbs cannot kill people with punches because punching with your maximum possible power takes years of practice to learn how to put your strength and weight into the punch. But when the guy can bench raw 500 lbs and knows how to punch, he can literally give a massive concussion to a person and kill him with one punch. You could see that guys were terrified to get inside the cage or ring with him. Mortified...
Kerr was 265 lbs of ripped muscle, and unlike Mariusz Pudzianowski, he actually knew how to use his strength and power in a fight. Imagine a Mariusz Pudzianowski who could put all his strength and weight into his punches and kicks, and could perform takedowns perfectly...what you have is the most dangerous man on Earth, period. Of course, Kerr was taking enormous amounts of drugs, almost on the level of a pro bodybuilder. Not as much, but close.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Miss Pride. :'(
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he fought not very long ago..can't find the fight now..fought king mo.. he was 40. looks ALOT different now.. balding and a little over weight he go TKO'd BTW
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i have the dvd but havent watched it in about a year, it is a great watch. kerr was awesome and a beast, royce turned down a fight against kerr back in the pride days also. i love jiu jitsu but alot of times a great wrestler like kerr with some submission defense can neutralize a jitz guy especially with a strength and weight difference. royce was 170 and kerr was around 250, royce woulda took a pounding imo
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Kerr was one of those guys, right place at the right time. Roided up and focused he was damn near unbeatable but as you can see he was never truly at peace with his demons and ended up paying the price.
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"Vale-tudo" in Portuguese translates literally into "everything goes", and this is exactly what it was. Traditional Brazilian vale-tudo, which gave birth to the UFC, is so gruesome and brutal that even guys who've seen war, like John McCain, were shocked by it and wanted to ban it from America. The only other fighting tournaments in the World that compare in brutality are Muay-Thai tournaments in Thailand.
In Brazilian Vale-tudo, the only two things that weren't allowed were eye gauging and biting. Everything else goes, from hitting opponents in the back of the head, head butting, stomping a downed opponent, etc. Even spitting inside the eyes of the opponent was allowed to make him temporarilly blind. The goal was the utter destruction of the other man with no rules or mercy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Sounds like something really decent people would be into ::)
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He could bench raw 500 lbs for a triple, and he could literally kill a man with a single punch.
But when the guy can bench raw 500 lbs and knows how to punch, he can literally give a massive concussion to a person and kill him with one punch. You could see that guys were terrified to get inside the cage or ring with him. Mortified...
Haha ;D
Mark Kerr couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag .