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Unless they claim that ever flying object ever seen is "identifiable," they really can't claim they're not real.
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havent watched the video yet. but the best time to catch flying saucers or ufos is on satelite radar during thunderstorms. the extra terrestrials seem to try to steal energy from the thunder/lightening
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havent watched the video yet. but the best time to catch flying saucers or ufos is on satelite radar during thunderstorms. the extra terrestrials seem to try to steal energy from the thunder/lightening
where do you get your info?
haha you re quitte an intelectual daddyboudy.
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havent watched the video yet. but the best time to catch flying saucers or ufos is on satelite radar during thunderstorms. the extra terrestrials seem to try to steal energy from the thunder/lightening
LSD...
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havent watched the video yet. but the best time to catch flying saucers or ufos is on satelite radar during thunderstorms. the extra terrestrials seem to try to steal energy from the thunder/lightening
exactly.
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where do you get your info?
haha you re quitte an intelectual daddyboudy.
it was some leaked nasa footage, but nasa refused to comment, of course..
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watch part 1 and part 2 NASA EVIDENCE...THEIR OWN SHUTTLE FOOTAGE..the DEFACTO smoking gun vid
you will be COMPLETELY convinced
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=nasa+evidence
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it was some leaked nasa footage, but nasa refused to comment, of course..
it was a segment part of a video someone posted on here, the footage even showed "us" trying to shoot them down with i beleive it was a plasma gun. if you dont beleive me some inventer had it patented. the footage showed the beam being shot from earth and the ufos speeding out of the way. i guess "us" try to shoot them down to gain there technology from their ufos
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What a bunch of crap!
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the FIRST RECORDED CIVILIZATIONS AT THE FIRST RECORDED time periods were the sumerians. they were "travelers" from either other planets or dimensions and knew of portals in the universe. it is alot of complex geometry among other things, when a gravitational force is so strong it actually bends , light and time, einstien proved this , this is not even the beginning i dont know nearly myself to begin to explain i just havent takin the time to read it, too busy working out eating and jackin off
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btw, that vid is a sci-fi entertainment piece but I am sure you all recognise this
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is it true that the goverment's want to bring weapons on the moon? meeeen human race is fucked up.
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the FIRST RECORDED CIVILIZATIONS AT THE FIRST RECORDED time periods were the sumerians. they were "travelers" from either other planets or dimensions and knew of portals in the universe. it is alot of complex geometry among other things, when a gravitational force is so strong it actually bends , light and time, einstien proved this , this is not even the beginning i dont know nearly myself to begin to explain i just havent takin the time to read it, too busy working out eating and jackin off
google rosetta stone..
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6692952930996256219&q=secret+space
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I went to the UFO Crash retrieval conferance here in las vegas in sept. It was awesome..
UFO's are so freakin real you have no idea.
I spoke with Stanton Friedman personally on this.
All UFO sightings are not nessecarilly Extra-terrestrial.
But, there are some that are indisputable.
BTW: I was such an oddball at this convention, these people were all lookin crazy and shit....
We need some more people to stand up that at least look normal. Well normal but Big.
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explain this ya naysayers
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=nazca+lines
the nazca lines in peru...
if you have the time READ " the chariots of the gods"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nazca+lines
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone
and lastly..the rosetta stone..
do your research on this..and see where it leads ;)
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it was a segment part of a video someone posted on here, the footage even showed "us" trying to shoot them down with i beleive it was a plasma gun. if you dont beleive me some inventer had it patented. the footage showed the beam being shot from earth and the ufos speeding out of the way. i guess "us" try to shoot them down to gain there technology from their ufos
Yes I also remember seeing this footage if I recall the way that UFO moved away from that plasma shot was un like any other aircraft that Ive seen move. Pretty freaky, I always thought that was a hoax.
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Here's a phenomenal encounter in Poland with some of the best photos ever taken:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/europe/Photo411.htm
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I suggest a book I recently read called Above Black! www.aboveblack.com
Interesting read.
We're not alone.
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lockeed martin ws testing plasma engines back in the mid 40 for FUCKS SAKE...
on TV now a days WE STILL DONT ADMIT OF AIRCRAFT THAT WORK OFF OFF PLASMA ENGINES..
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME 80 yrs worth of research went to nothing..??
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I suggest a book I recently read called Above Black! www.aboveblack.com
Interesting read.
We're not alone.
just watch the nasa evidence id i posted..if you r NOT completely convinced..i'll eat 20 red hot peppers and post a vid on getbig..
NOT :P
but watch it..it'll blow ya away..
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havent watched the video yet. but the best time to catch flying saucers or ufos is on satelite radar during thunderstorms. the extra terrestrials seem to try to steal energy from the thunder/lightening
That is brilliant. I am so stealing this.
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Yes I also remember seeing this footage if I recall the way that UFO moved away from that plasma shot was un like any other aircraft that Ive seen move. Pretty freaky, I always thought that was a hoax.
That clips is very real - broadcast directly from the space shuttle to the earth, and recorded by many all over the world.
yes - the speed at which that object changes direction would liquefy a human being, and would shred any machine we have. It's some energy transfer/transportation method that our feeble minds can't understand. Also, the shot fired from earth was coincidentally right near a US military base in Australia. cool stuff!
UFOs are real - many govts throughout the world have released their findings, and thanks to the web, within the decade most of us will know a lot more than we do now. Nothing to fear, if they wanted to eliminate us, we wouldn't be here at the moment :) The fun part will be making fun of the uneducated D-bags who still believe we're alone and mock those who look further into it.
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I believe in things like this...I remember in Montecello, Indiana on a fishing trip w/ my dad and brother at night time gazing up at the stars as they are clear there and hardly visible in the city.
This one particular 'star' moved throughout the sky in a way that's not normal. I was about 13 and can still clearly see that image.
There's a good documentary out with Dan Akroyd as the commentator I rented last summer. I forgot what it's called. He's a huge believer in this.
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http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=buzz+aldrin+ufo
buzz aldrin ufo video...
or course ..buzz never went to the moon :-\
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when is the public gonna demand some anwsers. main public people dont seem to be too interested.
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I believe in things like this...I remember in Montecello, Indiana on a fishing trip w/ my dad and brother at night time gazing up at the stars as they are clear there and hardly visible in the city.
This one particular 'star' moved throughout the sky in a way that's not normal. I was about 13 and can still clearly see that image.
There's a good documentary out with Dan Akroyd as the commentator I rented last summer. I forgot what it's called. He's a huge believer in this.
its the NASA video i posted..its hosted by dan ackroid..yeesh/.
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when is the public gonna demand some anwsers. main public people dont seem to be too interested.
cause we already have nukes on the moon..cause the drake equation ws actually right and we have been lying for eons..
cause we have the power..
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hahaha why dont you fellas join Riley Martin ::)
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There's a good documentary out with Dan Akroyd as the commentator I rented last summer. I forgot what it's called. He's a huge believer in this.
Was it called Dr. Detroit?
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Like they said in 'Men In Black'.
A PERSON can handle the truth but PEOPLE cannot.
If PEOPLE knew our society would be in turmoil and religions would crash, people would be more at war and it'll be chaos. Say if we all learned tomorrow...like on the news a ship just landed and beings are in the white house chilling w/ Mr. Bush. It would be anarchy.
That NASA footage shows crafts that were estimated to be 3 miles wide. Wow...bigger than a super-star destroyer.
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UFOs don't matter.
It'd be great TV and 'breaking news' for a few days. But nothing would change. They don't affect gas prices, they don't pay the light bill. The govt vehemently denies they exist (goes to show their credibility?) and the FAA has an auto-deny response to every sighting, which is odd for an investigative group. ;)
it'll come out, and nothing will change. It WILL of course, open up some minds to the fact that the folks we elect do enjoy telling fibs, and will get a few more people open minded.
By the way - today Rosie O Donnell told 30 million viewers on 'the view' that it's time to reinvestigate 9/11. I guess if they'll lie to us about UFOs, they might lie about other things too. hmmmm
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Rosie is a digusting woman...she can stick her liberal agenda up her ass.
FlashRob. Have you ever read or do you know there is a 10th planet in our solar system that NASA and the government knows about but won't publically discuss? Believed to be where the 'greys' come from.
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Maybe the UFO's caused 9/11?
Ever think about that?!
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Maybe the UFO's caused 9/11?
Ever think about that?!
Yes the evil government has been keeping that from us. ::)
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Rosie is a digusting woman...she can stick her liberal agenda up her ass.
yes, she is a bloated pig. But yes, she is right when she says that 500 feet of skyscraper converting to dust in 6.5 seconds from non-major fires. And she is right when she says that it needs to be investigated.
FlashRob. Have you ever read or do you know there is a 10th planet in our solar system that NASA and the government knows about but won't publically discuss? Believed to be where the 'greys' come from.
I dunno. I don't know much about that one.
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I have all my life been fascinated by UFOs and aliens. I recently found some drawings I made when I was 4-5 yrs old of UFOs and alien abductions, soldier alens, workers, etc. I was real creative.
I've seen a UFO once before about 4 years ago. I was riding home from getting a haircut with my mom and I happened to notice the reflection of the sun off a metallic object way up above us in the blue sky. I watched it trying to figure out what it was and then it stopped it's slow pace from left to right and just shrunk into nothing as if it flew right out into space.
Thanks for the video. I'm really sponging this in. I can't get enough.
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Yes the evil government has been keeping that from us. ::)
Now that you're on board, there are three wackos who believe in UFO's and the conspiracy of 9/11. You, me and 240.
We're through the looking glass people.
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this thread is an excellent way to spot all the fucktards posting on here.
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Now that you're on board, there are three wackos who believe in UFO's and the conspiracy of 9/11. You, me and 240.
What are you going to do with the word 'wacko' when they do admit there are UFOs?
PS... NBA Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban is financially backing the Charlie Sheen narrated "Loose Change Final Cut", due out this summer in theaters. Tickets are on me :)
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I believe in the possibility of UFO's, but us not landing on the moon and the 9-11 conspiracy? give me a break. Then again, if that fat, ignorant, piece of shit Rosie, who will do anything and everything to look the current administration bad, says it's true, it must be.
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If nasa told us that they exist? Why the hell would anybody panic? I certanly wont. Like 240 said, if they wanted to destroy us they allready would have. And people have to understand these alians are not like us, they re smarter, they dont use agression. Hell, if people knew about the aliens, maybe they'd be fascinated, and that can bound the human race , maybe then wouldn't be no wars.
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That clips is very real - broadcast directly from the space shuttle to the earth, and recorded by many all over the world.
yes - the speed at which that object changes direction would liquefy a human being, and would shred any machine we have. It's some energy transfer/transportation method that our feeble minds can't understand. Also, the shot fired from earth was coincidentally right near a US military base in Australia. cool stuff!
UFOs are real - many govts throughout the world have released their findings, and thanks to the web, within the decade most of us will know a lot more than we do now. Nothing to fear, if they wanted to eliminate us, we wouldn't be here at the moment :) The fun part will be making fun of the uneducated D-bags who still believe we're alone and mock those who look further into it.
I'm not too worried. They may be able to fold time, and possess meta-technology, and yet all they seem interested in is our anuses!?
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What are you going to do with the word 'wacko' when they do admit there are UFOs?
PS... NBA Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban is financially backing the Charlie Sheen narrated "Loose Change Final Cut", due out this summer in theaters. Tickets are on me :)
I'll start a conspiracy theory that UFO's are a tool of government suppression. There'll be a ton of liberal idiots that will hop on that bandwagon.
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I believe in the possibility of UFO's, but us not landing on the moon and the 9-11 conspiracy? give me a break. Then again, if that fat, ignorant, piece of shit Rosie, who will do anything and everything to look the current administration bad, says it's true, it must be.
Actually, most 911 skeptics keep politics out of it. They look at the three major laws of physics that were violated that day, and make it about science. That's what it should be. No one should be blamed for anything until it's investigated. Bush & company catch heat because they are blocking a real investigation, and many wonder why.
It's simple science. Buildings did things that were impossible without explosives. All the stuff about blame comes later - looking at the collapses and determining there were other forces at work - comes first.
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I saw a ghost one day in the subway at 5 in the morning. It was formless.
On a different note I gave myself an orgasm just dreaming of a hot woman.. weird how the mind works?
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There'll be a ton of liberal idiots that will hop on that bandwagon.
Actually, CARTEL, the vast majority of 911 skeptics are Republicans. Many heard the silly theory that explosives brought down the towers and looked into it and well, were shocked when they found out more.
Nothing political or liberal about it. it's science, baby!
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you guys do know that humans are a result of alien genetic modification of homo erectus right? I am being serious.
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I saw a ghost one day in the subway at 5 in the morning. It was formless.
That wasn't a ghost, that was Billy Guns.
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Yes the Great Ones always talk about cumming!!!!
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Actually, CARTEL, the vast majority of 911 skeptics are Republicans. Many heard the silly theory that explosives brought down the towers and looked into it and well, were shocked when they found out more.
Nothing political or liberal about it. it's science, baby!
I highly doubt the vast majority of skeptics are Republicans. Where do you get those numbers from?
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If nasa told us that they exist? Why the hell would anybody panic? I certanly wont. Like 240 said, if they wanted to destroy us they allready would have. And people have to understand these alians are not like us, they re smarter, they dont use agression. Hell, if people knew about the aliens, maybe they'd be fascinated, and that can bound the human race , maybe then wouldn't be no wars.
very good thought. this is the smartest thing you have ever said in your life.. i beleive it would bond the people
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very good thought. this is the smartest thing you have ever said in your life.. i beleive it would bond the people
i think its the smartest thing ever said on getbig :D
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If nasa told us that they exist? Why the hell would anybody panic? I certanly wont. Like 240 said, if they wanted to destroy us they allready would have. And people have to understand these alians are not like us, they re smarter, they dont use agression. Hell, if people knew about the aliens, maybe they'd be fascinated, and that can bound the human race , maybe then wouldn't be no wars.
WOW! now thats powerful...
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Like they said in 'Men In Black'.
A PERSON can handle the truth but PEOPLE cannot.
If PEOPLE knew our society would be in turmoil and religions would crash, people would be more at war and it'll be chaos.
Sad to think we're protecting fairy tales/stupidity so much.....I'm ashamed to be human :P
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Actually, most 911 skeptics keep politics out of it. They look at the three major laws of physics that were violated that day, and make it about science. That's what it should be. No one should be blamed for anything until it's investigated. Bush & company catch heat because they are blocking a real investigation, and many wonder why.
It's simple science. Buildings did things that were impossible without explosives. All the stuff about blame comes later - looking at the collapses and determining there were other forces at work - comes first.
They are blocking a government funded investigation because it's an absolute waste of money. Independent research can do whatever they want. There are enough people out there with enough money to run with this independently if they actually thought it was worth it. Fact is, it's not. It's just something that feeds conspiracy theorists like yourself. No offense, having conspiracy theorists around is actually a good thing. IF something was being hidden, they help expose it. But the 9-11 and Moon thing are over the edge.
It's like the "government takes out anyone involved in the research of alternate fuels" theory you had, then I posted the link of the guy who has a technology that enables a car to run on water, who is mere miles from the both of us, and is alive and kicking. The guy’s video is all over youtube and other places, but somehow, one of our government’s hit men hasn't taken him out.......UNLESS....they cloned and replaced him already!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU)
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Sad to think we're protecting fairy tales/stupidity so much.....I'm ashamed to be human :P
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Nothing wrong with fantasising it helps us cope with our meaningless existance. i.e. thinking of stuff greater than ourselves. As a matter of fact your career is based on such escapism.
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If nasa told us that they exist? Why the hell would anybody panic? I certanly wont. Like 240 said, if they wanted to destroy us they allready would have. And people have to understand these alians are not like us, they re smarter, they dont use agression. Hell, if people knew about the aliens, maybe they'd be fascinated, and that can bound the human race , maybe then wouldn't be no wars.
Yep. The answer to war is anal probing and cow mutilation.
The aliens rule!
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I highly doubt the vast majority of skeptics are Republicans. Where do you get those numbers from?
Let me rephrase that - the majority of the filmmakers/documentary creators started their films in an effort to debunk the silly theories that it was as self-attack. 911 mysteries, loose change, 911 power hour - google any of these videos and watch them. Most admit they were Bush voters (some twice!) who were shocked when they studied the facts closer.
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heres the worlds #1 bush hater. this is the guy who compares bush to hitler. but listen to his very smart take on 911. watch his other vides on how much he hates bush
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Let me rephrase that - the majority of the filmmakers/documentary creators started their films in an effort to debunk the silly theories that it was as self-attack. 911 mysteries, loose change, 911 power hour - google any of these videos and watch them. Most admit they were Bush voters (some twice!) who were shocked when they studied the facts closer.
Oh please. These "facts" are dubious at best.
Michael Moore makes celluloid crap extravaganzas with these same "facts" ::)
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Oh please. These "facts" are dubious at best.
Michael Moore makes celluloid crap extravaganzas with these same "facts" ::)
I'll play. tell us how world trade center #7, a 47 story skyscraper, was converted into 20 feet of molten steel and giant clouds of 100 mc sized (talcum powder) particles. From fire and gravity. Other buildings have burned far longer at far hotter temps - hell, the building still had most of its windows.
Here you go. Is this anything but a controlled demolition?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
(8 second video clip that will blow you away!)
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Was it called Dr. Detroit?
you have travelled far and wide to know of the masterpiece known as Dr. Detroit. A lot of it was shot around the University of Chicago, close to blockhead's stomping days of the youth.
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i agree michael moore is a big ol' douche.
But many of the 911 filmmakers are scientists, engineers, etc, who are genuinely interested in how the laws of physics didn't apply that sad morning.
And above politics, it's history, science, war, all coming together. fascinating topic.
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these people see the proof of ufo's and that building being demolitioned, still they dont wise up. they dont even believe their momma's.
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this thread is an excellent way to spot all the fucktards posting on here.
Now that you've posted on it, what does that make you :D
Yes, that makes me a fuctard as well 8)
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these people see the proof of ufo's and that building being demolitioned, still they dont wise up. they dont even believe their momma's.
El M,
Do you believe fire caused this building to collapse in this manner - yes or no?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
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these people see the proof of ufo's and that building being demolitioned, still they dont wise up. they dont even believe their momma's.
The only people who deny the existance of ET's are:
1. The people ignorant of the evidence
2. The people who would like to maintain the coverup,
end of story
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The only people who deny the existance of ET's are:
1. The people ignorant of the evidence
2. The people who would like to maintain the coverup,
end of story
3. people who've never been to a bodybuilding expo.
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some people are too fucking stupid.. here what a 10 story building sounds like when its demoed.. of all the videos ive seen of the wtc's collapsing, i havnt herd anything that sounds like this.. and keep in mind this is a 10 story building. not 2 120 story buildings and 1 50 story building.
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some people are too fucking stupid.. here what a 10 story building sounds like when its demoed.. of all the videos ive seen of the wtc's collapsing, i havnt herd anything that sounds like this.. and keep in mind this is a 10 story building. not 2 120 story buildings and 1 50 story building.
1) Your instant use of an insult undermines your credibility on this topic.
2) I ask everyone to just look at this 8-second video clip of a 47-story skyscraper falling on 911 from "isolated fires". Tell me that doesn't look like a controlled demolition to you.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
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1) Your instant use of an insult undermines your credibility on this topic.
2) I ask everyone to just look at this 8-second video clip of a 47-story skyscraper falling on 911 from "isolated fires". Tell me that doesn't look like a controlled demolition to you.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
how come there was no detonation? also, what kind of foundations are on the towers? besides we're not architects. how was it "supposed to" fall when hit by a plane?
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El M,
Do you believe fire caused this building to collapse in this manner - yes or no?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
ofcourse not, its impossible
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1) Your instant use of an insult undermines your credibility on this topic.
2) I ask everyone to just look at this 8-second video clip of a 47-story skyscraper falling on 911 from "isolated fires". Tell me that doesn't look like a controlled demolition to you.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
240, every time we argue this shit, you either disappear or change the subject.. use common sense. demolitions are extremely extremely loud -theres no denying that.. show me a video of the wtc's that comapres to the video i posted. if you cant, yet you keep arguing the same shit, then you are a fool.
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THE EAGLE HAS LANDED.. ;) when we supposidely landed on the moon..
HERE IS THE MASONIC FLAG FOLKS...
(http://www.conspiracyworld.com/web/Articles/Article%20Images/masonic_flag.gif)
o wait..is that a 2 headed eagle..??
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how come there was no detonation? also, what kind of foundations are on the towers? besides we're not architects. how was it "supposed to" fall when hit by a plane?
no no no - this is world trade center SEVEN
No plane hit this building. it was not hit with any plane debris, or building debris. Fires started oddly and it fell into its own basement. First time any building in history has done this.
Again, no plane hit it.
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no no no - this is world trade center SEVEN
No plane hit this building. it was not hit with any plane debris, or building debris. Fires started oddly and it fell into its own basement. First time any building in history has done this.
Again, no plane hit it.
i'm gonna look into this. just to get this straight, towers 1 and 2 were hit by planes? and how far is wtc 7 from the ones that got hit?
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ofcourse not, its impossible
Wotld trade center Building #7 is the one HOLE in the official story that doesn't work.
As http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
this video shows, it was vaporized - con
Most people aren't aware this building even fell on 9/11. The twin towers were 110 stories tall - this one was only 47 stories. It fell at 5:20 PM that day, and the official NIST report says "fires caused it to collapse".
But look at the video - asymmetrical isolated fires vaporize that building. Makes no sense. buildings don't do that. :-\
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ofcourse not, its impossible
really? 240 claims all of the materials were sent to china to hide evidence,, when they were actually sent to new jersey to be tested
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i'm gonna look into this. just to get this straight, towers 1 and 2 were hit by planes? and how far is wtc 7 from the ones that got hit?
I will look for the exact measurements. The two tall towers 1,2 were the ones hit by planes.
Oddly, buildings #1,2,3,4,5,6,7 were all owned by a guy named Larry Silverstein. Buildings that were a lot closer to #1 and #2 were hit with tons of debris, but stand to this day.
But all 7 buildings hit by Silverstein were completely destoryed that day. he paid $14 million down on the buildings (only 6 weeks before 9/11), and got about ten BILLION in insurance payouts. Monster coincidence.
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Al Gore approves this thread.
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ok Rob i just looked. the National Institute of Standards and technology was hired to do research on why wtc 7 collapsed. the head guy at his most recent interview basically said "i just don't know". report expected early 2007,not out yet.
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240 is becoming the TA of conspiracy theories.
How did the towers fall? By using the 240 Principles.
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really? 240 claims all of the materials were sent to china to hide evidence,, when they were actually sent to new jersey to be tested
Mayor Guiliani sold the building scraps to the Chinese at pennies on the dollar. They were shipped to killtown, NJ then to china for recycling very quickly.
The families of the victims sued, begged, picketed, mayor Rudy to allow the materials to be tested for explosives residue, but he wouldn't allow it. Federal law required they do a reconstruct, etc, but Rudy said no, and Spitzer didn't enforce the law and require it to be tested.
Some people snuck out samples, and when tested independently, there were traces of nanothermite, a military grade explosive.
The families hope that a second, more complete 911 investigation, they will actually check the metal for explosives residue. After all, each explosive has a unique signature - and if bombs were used, it'd be pretty easy to see whose explosives were used.
it's just common sense. Testing the metal would cost next to nothing, and would let the families know if the buildings fell from gravity, or controlled demolition. Seems with 2,971 dead, they'd simply test the metal. Very odd. :-\
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Mayor Guiliani sold the building scraps to the Chinese at pennies on the dollar. They were shipped to killtown, NJ then to china for recycling very quickly.
The families of the victims sued, begged, picketed, mayor Rudy to allow the materials to be tested for explosives residue, but he wouldn't allow it. Federal law required they do a reconstruct, etc, but Rudy said no, and Spitzer didn't enforce the law and require it to be tested.
Some people snuck out samples, and when tested independently, there were traces of nanothermite, a military grade explosive.
The families hope that a second, more complete 911 investigation, they will actually check the metal for explosives residue. After all, each explosive has a unique signature - and if bombs were used, it'd be pretty easy to see whose explosives were used.
it's just common sense. Testing the metal would cost next to nothing, and would let the families know if the buildings fell from gravity, or controlled demolition. Seems with 2,971 dead, they'd simply test the metal. Very odd. :-\
maybe they have something to hide??
(http://www.ctgilles.net/images/pictars/dr.evil_one_miliion_dollars.jpg)
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A UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) is real until you can identify it, when it becomes something completely different.
UFOs stop being UFOs as soon as you can identify them.
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ok Rob i just looked. the National Institute of Standards and technology was hired to do research on why wtc 7 collapsed. the head guy at his most recent interview basically said "i just don't know". report expected early 2007,not out yet.
NIST director Arden L. Bement Jr. was hired jsut after 9/11 to run the investigation.
Diehard republican and Bush 1 supporter who spent his life in military private sector and actually had some significant experience with remote controlled planes. Yikes.
yes, NIST folks will no longer address the 911 questions publicly. The evidence that the official story is false is starting to mount.
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wtc 7
there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
"On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner
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KH300 is bringing the knowledge. :)
240, your far-fetched rebuttal?
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Mayor Guiliani sold the building scraps to the Chinese at pennies on the dollar. They were shipped to killtown, NJ then to china for recycling very quickly.
The families of the victims sued, begged, picketed, mayor Rudy to allow the materials to be tested for explosives residue, but he wouldn't allow it. Federal law required they do a reconstruct, etc, but Rudy said no, and Spitzer didn't enforce the law and require it to be tested.
Some people snuck out samples, and when tested independently, there were traces of nanothermite, a military grade explosive.
The families hope that a second, more complete 911 investigation, they will actually check the metal for explosives residue. After all, each explosive has a unique signature - and if bombs were used, it'd be pretty easy to see whose explosives were used.
it's just common sense. Testing the metal would cost next to nothing, and would let the families know if the buildings fell from gravity, or controlled demolition. Seems with 2,971 dead, they'd simply test the metal. Very odd. :-\
i just posted a video of them analyzing all of the steel,, it was well after 911. then they sold the metal
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there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."
Aside from the fact that my words are my own and yours are cut and pasted-
Every wall, desk, and piece of concrete in that building was instantly converted into 100 micron sized talcum powder concrete. I mean, fine, fine dust.
Gravity doesn't do that. Your cut-n-paste weakly tells us why it fell. yet it doesn't tell us why the building fell unlike any other building in history.
Think about how big a 47 story building is.
This building was converted to talcum powder in under 7 seconds. I don't think you comprehend that.
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i just posted a video of them analyzing all of the steel,, it was well after 911. then they sold the metal
Please show me the NIST documents where they test the metal for explosive residue.
Wait, they didn't do that? Even though the families begged and it did look like a controlled demo?
Dude, read up. NIST checked metal to try to explain why they *bent* after they said the steel melted and internet kids proved that was scientifically impossible. They never explained the 50-ft deep pools of molten metal that were there 6 weeks afterwards, nor tested for bomb residue.
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Aside from the fact that my words are my own and yours are cut and pasted-
Every wall, desk, and piece of concrete in that building was instantly converted into 100 micron sized talcum powder concrete. I mean, fine, fine dust.
Gravity doesn't do that. Your cut-n-paste weakly tells us why it fell. yet it doesn't tell us why the building fell unlike any other building in history.
Think about how big a 47 story building is.
This building was converted to talcum powder in under 7 seconds. I don't think you comprehend that.
yes that was cut and pasted,, because i look up my facts from the experts, i dont type whatever shit flys out of my ass like you.. this is how much credability you have, you just posted a picture of wtc7. thats great, but that was before 911.
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i just posted a video of them analyzing all of the steel,, it was well after 911. then they sold the metal
what's with silverstein's "just pull it" clip on the same page you posted?
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what's with silverstein's "just pull it" clip on the same page you posted?
Hey Power Rod.
Who was your favorite whore from Dr. Detroit? I liked the asian one.
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Hey Power Rod.
Who was your favorite whore from Dr. Detroit? I liked the asian one.
ha ha, she fooled poor dr. detroit into thinking she was really asian with her horrible accent. i liked the blonde. she was very curvy , just the way i like my 80's chicks. plus you can see her nipples when they gang up on him in the hot tub.
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what's with silverstein's "just pull it" clip on the same page you posted?
"pull it" has been completely taken out of context.. they were fighting the fire in wtc7 for hours. the fire chief decided it was too dangerous and the building couldnt be contained. so he order a "pull". which means in firefighting -to abandon. the fire wasnt worth fighting and they knew it wouldnt hold, so why risk it
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yes that was cut and pasted,, because i look up my facts from the experts, i dont type whatever shit flys out of my ass like you.. this is how much credability you have, you just posted a picture of wtc7. thats great, but that was before 911.
Yikes! I don't blame you for cut-n-pasting.
Now... I posted WTC7 to show folks just how big the building was. I can show you the building falling from the back - pretty smoke free:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8403741864603265979&q=wtc+7+new&hl=en
And this clip shows you the front, smoke free.
(remember when the 1/2 towers fell, and the giant clouds traveled thru the streets? Your pic was taken after that. There were a series of small fires which were down to two small fires when it fell at 5:20 PM. If that building was going to fall, it would have been a 35-story clusterfck of concrete and steel - not a powderized cloud and 20 feet of molten steel remaining)
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ha ha, she fooled poor dr. detroit into thinking she was really asian with her horrible accent. i liked the blonde. she was very curvy , just the way i like my 80's chicks. plus you can see her nipples when they gang up on him in the hot tub.
That was Donna Dixon. She was sweet. Dan ended up marrying her. WTF?
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That was Donna Dixon. She was sweet. Dan ended up marrying her. WTF?
in real life? not bad. i forget if she's the one who kept saying he had nice legs when he was jogging,even though you could clearly see he was running with two hairy tree trunks.
or was that fran drescher?
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"pull it" has been completely taken out of context.. they were fighting the fire in wtc7 for hours. the fire chief decided it was too dangerous and the building couldnt be contained. so he order a "pull". which means in firefighting -to abandon. the fire wasnt worth fighting and they knew it wouldnt hold, so why risk it
Actually, they evac'd WTC7 at 11:15 AM.
And that line of crap about "he MEANT firefighter" came from Mr. Chertoff at Popular mechanics, who will now no longer do interviews with radio stations because they keep asking him to verify many suspicious facts he claimed.
yes, his cousin happens to be homeland security director michael chertoff. Small world, eh?
Demolition teams have been using "pull it" for years to describe taking down a building, which is precisely what we saw with WTC7. it is insulting to the reader to see "um, he *meant* firefighters".
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ok Rob i just looked. the National Institute of Standards and technology was hired to do research on why wtc 7 collapsed. the head guy at his most recent interview basically said "i just don't know". report expected early 2007,not out yet.
They have been changing the release date for that report since 2005.
By the way, the BBC reported that world trade center 7 had collapsed a full 26 minutes before it actually fell.
How funny is that? It's in the background, next to her head. Some poeple believe that the media was being fed info that day to report, and that the controlled demoilltion of WTC7 happened later than planned.
here is a screenshot. The BBC claimed they LOST all their video from 911, tapes and archives. Do you believe that?
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the front of wtc7 was smoke free, because the fire was on the other side.. like ive been asking, where are the explosions.. if you have come to the conclusion that it was demoed, you have 0 proof. your just going on the fact that because it fell, it must have been demoed.. show me one video with the noise or site of multiple explosions.. ill post this again just for a reminder of what im looking for
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They have been changing the release date for that report since 2005.
By the way, the BBC reported that world trade center 7 had collapsed a full 26 minutes before it actually fell.
How funny is that? It's in the background, next to her head. Some poeple believe that the media was being fed info that day to report, and that the controlled demoilltion of WTC7 happened later than planned.
here is a screenshot. The BBC claimed they LOST all their video from 911, tapes and archives. Do you believe that?
lost video? theres 100 copies on youtube.. the media was being fed info? i learn something new every day
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the front of wtc7 was smoke free, because the fire was on the other side.. like ive been asking, where are the explosions.. if you have come to the conclusion that it was demoed, you have 0 proof. your just going on the fact that because it fell, it must have been demoed.. show me one video with the noise or site of multiple explosions.. ill post this again just for a reminder of what im looking for
Here you go. Go to :34 and listen for the blasts.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4322650841860671469&q=blue+media+wtc7&hl=en
I await your reply ;)
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wheres the noise on this one?
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lost video? theres 100 copies on youtube.. the media was being fed info? i learn something new every day
Ahem. You are speaking on something you know nothing about again.
The BBC editor's blog is currently carrying the following statement from Richard Porter, editor of BBC news:
"We no longer have the original tapes of our 9/11 coverage (for reasons of cock-up, not conspiracy). So if someone has got a recording of our output, I'd love to get hold of it. We do have the tapes for our sister channel News 24, but they don't help clear up the issue one way or another."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html
now, I invite you to research something before you criticize. And, I'd like to hear if you honestly believe the news media giant BBC lost every videotape from the most important day in modern history?
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Here you go. Go to :34 and listen for the blasts.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4322650841860671469&q=blue+media+wtc7&hl=en
I await your reply ;)
i just posted a video of a 10 story building, with dozens of very loud blasts... and then this is what you come up with? -i couldnt hear shit.. try again
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wheres the noise on this one?
You asked for a video of WTC7 collapse with audio, which showed the blasts. i delivered.
Now, if you consider digging up another tape without the audio to be debunking mine, you should be seriously embarassed. You said there were no blasts and I provided you with the video showing multiple blasts before and during the collapse.
You're getting spanked here because you're speaking on things you haven't researched.
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You asked for a video of WTC7 collapse with audio, which showed the blasts. i delivered.
Now, if you consider digging up another tape without the audio to be debunking mine, you should be seriously embarassed. You said there were no blasts and I provided you with the video showing multiple blasts before and during the collapse.
You're getting spanked here because you're speaking on things you haven't researched.
your so full of shit im having to wipe it off my computer screen every time you post. ill compare this once again
wtc 7. with audio. 47 storys
10 story building being demoed
and your gonna tell me theres no difference?
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-i couldnt hear shit.. try again
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4322650841860671469&q=blue+media+wtc7&hl=en
Go to :24 for the blast which took out the penthouse. Then :34 on for the one giant blast to the 2 central columns then the series of blasts as the floors were destroyed. Perhaps you need to turn up your speakers.
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i got this up so loud the whole neighborhood can hear,, but no explosions.. anyone else hearing this?
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kh300,
you're being disrespectful and you are ignoring facts.
everyone else, do your research and see where it leads you. All I want to see is a second investigation of 9/11 to see why the buildings fell. Four of the ten 911 commissioners have come out asking for a full investigation, as they said the first one was crippled and censored.
Read about it. Learn more. Don't listen to me and don't listen to kh300. Read the facts and if you think it smells, vote for folks who want to investigate. Start here: http://killtown.911review.org/
*one last thing- on Sept 10, 2001... the pentagon announced that 2.3 Trillion was missing. The next morning, the plane coincidentally flew directly into a meeting where all the people in charge of that money and record keeping were sitting. Everyone killed and the 2.3 trillion is gone forever. Does that smell fishy to you?
Start reading: http://killtown.911review.org/
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whatever im sick of you,, the only thing your doing is trying to convince yourself..you know the truth
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kh300,
you're being disrespectful and you are ignoring facts.
everyone else, do your research and see where it leads you. All I want to see is a second investigation of 9/11 to see why the buildings fell. Four of the ten 911 commissioners have come out asking for a full investigation, as they said the first one was crippled and censored.
Read about it. Learn more. Don't listen to me and don't listen to kh300. Read the facts and if you think it smells, vote for folks who want to investigate. Start here: http://killtown.911review.org/
*one last thing- on Sept 10, 2001... the pentagon announced that 2.3 Trillion was missing. The next morning, the plane coincidentally flew directly into a meeting where all the people in charge of that money and record keeping were sitting. Everyone killed and the 2.3 trillion is gone forever. Does that smell fishy to you?
Start reading: http://killtown.911review.org/
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its been 6 years, my mind is made up until i see a piece of evidence.. no -not pictures or videos.. evidence, or a confession... you will continue to try to prove yourself and your theories.. like they say about psychologists: you become one in order to figure yourself out, not others
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its been 6 years, my mind is made up until i see a piece of evidence.. no -not pictures or videos.. evidence, or a confession... you will continue to try to prove yourself and your theories.. like they say about psychologists: you become one in order to figure yourself out, not others
you're an NYPD cop, and you don't consider pictures and video to be evidence?
No offense, but that's embarassing. Ask any cop if he'd prefer a fallible himan witness or a videotape, what do you think he'll say?
Besides, there are dozens of NYPD, NYPD, military, and EMTs who were on the scene at WTC7 who called it a controlled demolition. Their word isn't good enough, the video isn't good enough... hell, i hope if I ever commit a crime, you're the cop who investigates. There would be 20 witnesses and a videotape and you would let me go. bravo!
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i got this up so loud the whole neighborhood can hear,, but no explosions.. anyone else hearing this?
i do hear the boom, but funny the building just finish falling and you can still hear the boom, so that sound could be anything! or the sound is out of sync, if so, how many video was like that?
also like i said before, the owner said in a video, because he knew nothing could be down to save the building, he said '' ok pull the plug''....
and about UFO........ again there is no real proof anywhere in the world, no good pic, no good videos.
funny, it seems like nobody knows how a fu'kin' camera works!
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you're an NYPD cop, and you don't consider pictures and video to be evidence?
No offense, but that's embarassing. Ask any cop if he'd prefer a fallible himan witness or a videotape, what do you think he'll say?
Besides, there are dozens of NYPD, NYPD, military, and EMTs who were on the scene at WTC7 who called it a controlled demolition. Their word isn't good enough, the video isn't good enough... hell, i hope if I ever commit a crime, you're the cop who investigates. There would be 20 witnesses and a videotape and you would let me go. bravo!
pics from the internet and google videos -no.. anything can be photoshoped.. only things allowed in a courtroom are analyzed by experts.. that means the actuall tape..and nobody dares to tamper with evidence..
everyone i know from the pd/fd that were at ground zero saw nothing "suspect".. and no im not with the pd. still training for the new job. when your good at what you do, you go federal ;D
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havent watched the video yet. but the best time to catch flying saucers or ufos is on satelite radar during thunderstorms. the extra terrestrials seem to try to steal energy from the thunder/lightening
Rotating my index finger in a circular motion, near my ear. :o :o :o
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They are blocking a government funded investigation because it's an absolute waste of money. Independent research can do whatever they want. There are enough people out there with enough money to run with this independently if they actually thought it was worth it. Fact is, it's not. It's just something that feeds conspiracy theorists like yourself. No offense, having conspiracy theorists around is actually a good thing. IF something was being hidden, they help expose it. But the 9-11 and Moon thing are over the edge.
It's like the "government takes out anyone involved in the research of alternate fuels" theory you had, then I posted the link of the guy who has a technology that enables a car to run on water, who is mere miles from the both of us, and is alive and kicking. The guy’s video is all over youtube and other places, but somehow, one of our government’s hit men hasn't taken him out.......UNLESS....they cloned and replaced him already!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU)
Didn't Toxie recently post a link about him dying under mysterious circumstances?
Can someone please find that link?
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how come there was no detonation? also, what kind of foundations are on the towers? besides we're not architects. how was it "supposed to" fall when hit by a plane?
Power Rod, WTC7 was neither hit by a plane or by flying debris.
Furthermore, if you notice the last few seconds of that clip, you'll notice something clearly propelled into the air. Explosives will do that.
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"pull it" has been completely taken out of context.. they were fighting the fire in wtc7 for hours. the fire chief decided it was too dangerous and the building couldnt be contained. so he order a "pull". which means in firefighting -to abandon. the fire wasnt worth fighting and they knew it wouldnt hold, so why risk it
It's Official. With a BS statement like that you have lost every tiny little miniscule speck of credibility you might have had with me.
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That clips is very real - broadcast directly from the space shuttle to the earth, and recorded by many all over the world.
yes - the speed at which that object changes direction would liquefy a human being, and would shred any machine we have. It's some energy transfer/transportation method that our feeble minds can't understand. Also, the shot fired from earth was coincidentally right near a US military base in Australia. cool stuff!
UFOs are real - many govts throughout the world have released their findings, and thanks to the web, within the decade most of us will know a lot more than we do now. Nothing to fear, if they wanted to eliminate us, we wouldn't be here at the moment :) The fun part will be making fun of the uneducated D-bags who still believe we're alone and mock those who look further into it.
In Washington DC, there's a saying..... "The masses are asses"
Are UFO's real? Yes. Can you tell the masses? No.
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In Washington DC, there's a saying..... "The masses are asses"
Are UFO's real? Yes. Can you tell the masses? No.
I wonder how long it would take for some 7/11 robber to use the "alien trauma" defense.