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Title: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: 6 Reps on September 20, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
I was not at the Olympia tonight (and have actually never been to one).  But I wonder, who are the Mr. Olympia judges, and how many of them are there?

Quite a number of years ago I was at a local contest here in Southern California, and Shawn Ray was the guest poser.  After his posing, he spoke to the audience.  One of his remarks was that at the Olympia, when you have the same judges year after year, you get the same results year after year.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: FermiDirac on September 20, 2014, 11:44:21 PM
Occam's razor dictates that they might be schmoes
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: kreator on September 20, 2014, 11:59:29 PM
Isn't Mike Katz also a judge? Word is he once told some male competitor after prejuging at some local show that he'd like to fuck him in the ass or something ...
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Nails on September 21, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
The ones with large bank deposits last might
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on September 21, 2014, 12:11:34 AM
The judges are a bunch of cocksuckers. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Jizmo on September 21, 2014, 12:28:41 AM
u wanna kill them or why u wanna know  ;D
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Papper on September 21, 2014, 12:40:45 AM
I think it is expert schmoe master Lea Thompson who decides the winner beforehand. He is friends with Branch and Phil. Possibly Jay too. The guy even attended Branchs wedding.

It is hard to get info on these secretive matters..  haha the judges in Mr Olympia are more veiled and withheld than celebrities babies before the press pays for them
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Dr Kincaid on September 21, 2014, 03:32:42 AM
Ray Charles
Stevie Wonder
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: gracie bjj on September 21, 2014, 03:52:46 AM
Ray Charles
Stevie Wonder


 ;D
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: gracie bjj on September 21, 2014, 04:18:18 AM
its the same with MMA, u r in there getting punched in the face and shit and only to have some twinks who never even fought in their lives tell u that u didn't do enough to win ??? that's why im all for having the judges in bodybuilding and MMA all retired pro,s in that field, if u had say, robby,haney,zane,gaspari ect judging im pretty sure the placings will be much more fair,MMA is starting to switch over to that now little by little they r putting ex fighters on the judging panel,i know mike katz is a judge,beside mike which judges actually competed in bodybuilding?
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: The Grim Lifter on September 21, 2014, 04:35:30 AM
Shawn Ray would say anything to try and win. He was always placing high while not being a big guy. What if they changed the judges and he comes 10th?

Saying that the ridiculous placements and winners at the NOC over the years shows how Steve W controls placings. Johnny Moya 4th when Ruhl was 9th, Orville beating Dexter, common theme here?
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Parker on September 21, 2014, 04:44:59 AM
its the same with MMA, u r in there getting punched in the face and shit and only to have some twinks who never even fought in their lives tell u that u didn't do enough to win ??? that's why im all for having the judges in bodybuilding and MMA all retired pro,s in that field, if u had say, robby,haney,zane,gaspari ect judging im pretty sure the placings will be much more fair,MMA is starting to switch over to that now little by little they r putting ex fighters on the judging panel,i know mike katz is a judge,beside mike which judges actually competed in bodybuilding?
Albert Beckles is a judge, and I believe Mike Francois is a judge as well.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Mr.Mojo on September 21, 2014, 04:49:50 AM
Its hard to identify the judges
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 04:54:28 AM
The IFBB sets the criteria, the judges follow the criteria, the competitor who wins best fits the criteria.
To become a judge you have to relinquish your opinion.

Do you seriously think every one of the judges preferred Phil's physique.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: _aj_ on September 21, 2014, 05:09:40 AM
The judges picked the best competitor to represent the IFBB, not the best physique on stage. Imagine having Kai as the face of professional bb? LOL.

If Kai and Phil were equally professional and equally as good as a spokesman, then Kai probably would have won.

Same in WPD. DLB was a decent face if the sport, Malacarne was as good or better, plus was light years ahead of DLB in physique, so it was a no-brainer.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 05:33:08 AM
The judges picked the best competitor to represent the IFBB, not the best physique on stage. Imagine having Kai as the face of professional bb? LOL.

If Kai and Phil were equally professional and equally as good as a spokesman, then Kai probably would have won.

Same in WPD. DLB was a decent face if the sport, Malacarne was as good or better, plus was light years ahead of DLB in physique, so it was a no-brainer.
http://www.pinterest.com/jeffmurdock71/juliana-malacarne/

Any shots like this of DLB?
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: _aj_ on September 21, 2014, 05:36:41 AM
http://www.pinterest.com/jeffmurdock71/juliana-malacarne/

Any shots like this of DLB?

LOL! I wondered if there were any spicey pics of her out there but was too lazy to look. I am not sure any of these rise to the level of the grapefruit or the white towel, but point taken.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 21, 2014, 05:58:10 AM
The IFBB sets the criteria, the judges follow the criteria, the competitor who wins best fits the criteria.
To become a judge you have to relinquish your opinion.

Do you seriously think every one of the judges preferred Phil's physique.

I've been explaining this shit for years.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: HonestBob on September 21, 2014, 06:02:05 AM
http://www.pinterest.com/jeffmurdock71/juliana-malacarne/

Any shots like this of DLB?

I think she pins the shit out of those delts pre contest.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Mr. MB on September 21, 2014, 09:00:29 AM
I never judged for the NPC/IFBB but did a few dozen shows as a National Judge for the AAU, several natural orgs. and the Mr. Muscle Beach series. I can say that I NEVER once saw a unanimous card.
Judges differ in their opinion like all of you. I have sat in criteria meetings pre show and yes the votes are closer. My guess is that Manion conducts the Olympia criteria meeting and has a say in who will NOT be the face of the IFBB.  That said, all the other placings are objective.

Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Nails on September 21, 2014, 09:04:18 AM
Her is Judge with Bob Chick



(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=455135.0;attach=500943;image)
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: gracie bjj on September 21, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Her is Judge with Bob Chick



(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=455135.0;attach=500943;image)

I heard he did a terrific PERFORMANCE that night with old booby bob
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: hardgainerj on September 21, 2014, 10:08:05 AM
whineburger
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 01:09:59 PM
The IFBB sets the criteria, the judges follow the criteria, the competitor who wins best fits the criteria.
To become a judge you have to relinquish your opinion.

Do you seriously think every one of the judges preferred Phil's physique.
only 5 judges had to for him to get a perfect score. Not hard to believe at all
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
only 5 judges had to for him to get a perfect score. Not hard to believe at all
Then the scoring system is fucked, a number of judges can place him down the field and he still gets a perfect score??

they need to look up the definition of "perfect"
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: jude2 on September 21, 2014, 01:22:40 PM
only 5 judges had to for him to get a perfect score. Not hard to believe at all
7 judges. They had 9 judges and disregard 2 top scores and 2 low scores. So for a perfect score u would need 7 ones
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
7 judges. They had 9 judges and disregard 2 top scores and 2 low scores. So for a perfect score u would need 7 ones
Read what you wrote again.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: jude2 on September 21, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
Read what you wrote again.
Meant 7 judges would have to place him first out of the 9.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
7 judges. They had 9 judges and disregard 2 top scores and 2 low scores. So for a perfect score u would need 7 ones
ya my bad
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:35:56 PM
So from 9 judges we have a total of 4 scores removed and yet he needs 7 first places?

Now Im confused.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: jude2 on September 21, 2014, 01:38:53 PM
So from 9 judges we have a total of 4 scores removed and yet he needs 7 first places?

Now Im confused.
Yes for a perfect score. 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2.   So scratch out the top and bottom two scores and u are left with a perfect score of 5.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 01:39:42 PM
So from 9 judges we have a total of 4 scores removed and yet he needs 7 first places?

Now Im confused.
9 judges place each competitor

2 of the judges that scored the competitor in the highest placing gets thrown out..

2 of the judges that scored the competitor in the lowest placing gets thrown out

So 5 we know place him first and the 2 out of the 4 that got thrown out also had have placed him 1st as well
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
Yes for a perfect score. 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2.   So scratch out the top and bottom two scores and u are left with a perfect score of 5.
Ah...I see.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 01:43:17 PM
Ah...I see.
however chances are aĺl 9 had him 1st
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:45:06 PM
however chances are aĺl 9 had him 1st
Yep, lots of expensive travel packages available, no judge wants to rock the boat and be out of step with his fellow thongsters.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: jude2 on September 21, 2014, 01:50:45 PM
however chances are aĺl 9 had him 1st
Very good chance, but sad when everyone puts the same for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:52:26 PM
Very good chance, but sad when everyone puts the same for the sake of it.

Maybe shizzo should try for getbigs worst poster, pretty sure he would get a perfect score.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 01:53:22 PM
Very good chance, but sad when everyone puts the same for the sake of it.
ya but you know how it goes. Very few judges ever oppose the head judge and they all talk to each other
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 01:55:27 PM
ya but you know how it goes. Very few judges ever oppose the head judge and they all talk to each other
I have seen judges talking to each other and pointing at competitors during the judging, it should never happen.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Nails on September 21, 2014, 01:56:48 PM
 (http://santiagoswallow.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/chalkboard-tags-equation-theorem-math-image-resolution-x-2768651.png?w=1280)
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 02:00:18 PM
I have seen judges talking to each other and pointing at competitors during the judging, it should never happen.
they all do and if they dont then they go by where the head judge positions them.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2014, 02:02:10 PM
they all do and if they dont then they go by where the head judge positions them.

I once stood in a line up and looked down to see one of my competitors brothers on the judging panel  ;D
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: thebrink on September 21, 2014, 02:09:17 PM
Isn't Mike Katz also a judge? Word is he once told some male competitor after prejuging at some local show that he'd like to fuck him in the ass or something ...

Always knew that guy was a fucking weirdo.
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 21, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
I once stood in a line up and looked down to see one of my competitors brothers on the judging panel  ;D
really. Well in rules he should not have been allowed to judge that show
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: Skeletor on September 21, 2014, 02:38:52 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/jt8521.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Are The Judges?
Post by: 6 Reps on September 21, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
Awhile back I was watching one of the Miss America/Miss Universe/whatever it was contest, and near the beginning, they introduced all of the judges and where they were from.