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Compare shots between any two bodybuilders - who wins?
http://www.ifbbpro.com/2008olympiacallout/
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The guy who won, wins.
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not entirely accurate to use this. It adjusts the pics of each guy to show them at the same height which is not correct. Dexter is not as tall as Dennis, but when you adjust the pic size to show them at the same height....
This is a waste of time.
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Compare shots between any two bodybuilders - who wins?
http://www.ifbbpro.com/2008olympiacallout/
THIS WON
BOOOOOOOOOM
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what a shitty shot of jay
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1 Jay
2 Dex
3 Heath
4 Wolf
5 Freeman
IMO
I don't see dex beating jay, just look at that first shot, fdb...
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Jay had folds of skin on this back. Come on. Freeman got jacked because they didnt want to place him ahead of Phil and Wolf. There is the robbery.
You should be happy. Now...the IFBB can sell your narrow client...as the standard. If you are out there John Brown...who's muscles respond to drugs better over the short haul...Shawn or Phil?
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1. Heath
2. Jackson
3. Wolf
4. Freeman
5. Cutler
6. Silvio Samuel
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THIS WON
BOOOOOOOOOM
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::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) i knoW it sucks
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Really cool!
Looking at the comparisons, Dexter destroys Jay across the board, it's not even close.
Against Heath it's close (Phil takes some, Dex takes some) but Heath's obliques just kill him especially since he's got narrow shoulder structure. (An interesting thing - if you fix Heath's obliques with photoshop, his ab-thigh pose looks a lot like Cormier used to).
Against Wolf, Dex takes almost every pose. Surprising as I'd figure Wolf would do better, but he really was off this year.
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THIS WON
BOOOOOOOOOM
Sami??
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no3 and no 15
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Look how much better Heath looks without those over-sized obliques.
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Look how much better Heath looks without those over-sized obliques.
for a great flowing double bi check out rinnie rockel
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Rockel looks great in those pics, he got screwed. Looks good even compared to Dexter.
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Look at Jay Cutler and Dennis James together. ;D
BTW Isaac, very cool tool.
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so what i've learned from those photos is that dex's photos are not in proportion to jay's and that jay still owns his ass in almost every pose... and they compared two different kinds of most musculars..waaay to go.
Jay was robbed.
F uck all you haters
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Phil Heath beats Jay Cutler. :)
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phils waist has grown..not sure why.maybe he is putting on size to quickly
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As Ricky Bobby says... If your not first, your last!
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PHIL HEATH!!!!
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What a pity that either the judges or another panel doesn't have this facility to compare physiques. Would make the judging a bit more objective. It would be possible to have these photos available after the prejudging and videos could be viewed as well. If they used excellent 30 inch monitors they would do a better job of judging than sitting close and looking up at the contestants.
Phil compares well against Dexter and maybe eclipses him.
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Phil Heath can win the olympia as soon as he improves his back, in width and thickness, he has to do this however without thickening his obliques and waistline,no easy feat, as this would make him look even more narrow, hes right there in every other pose except for the rear lat,
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i had it like this:
1: jay
2: heath
3:jackson
on the second night jay was clearly the best guy on stage. the biggest and his conditioning was excellent. should win you an olympia.
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Looking at the shots I say Phil slightly edged out Dexter. But it was really really close so Dexter winning is cool.
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lift great pics,darrem charles is looking lumpy,and worn.legs are shredded but smallish.how does johnnie j legs squat so much without great mass and density to them.heath looks unreal almost complete to road to mr o,dex is only slightly if that better.david henry was real good just a bit off from last few shows probably a bit off peak due to all shows in a row.dj pecs up mro midsection down so-so.rockel i don't get how they judge him he is packed with great muscle and shape top to bottom he will never get super hard and dry but so what he is great.
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Phil Heath
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i had it like this:
1: jay
2: heath
3:jackson
on the second night jay was clearly the best guy on stage. the biggest and his conditioning was excellent. should win you an olympia.
Jay winning?! Have you seen his back? How about his horrible front lat spread? His poor symmetry (left vs right sides)?
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/callout/2008mro_194.jpg)
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/callout/2008mro_192.jpg)
Jay should have been 4th.
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Jay winning?! Have you seen his back? How about his horrible front lat spread? His poor symmetry (left vs right sides)?
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/callout/2008mro_194.jpg)
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/callout/2008mro_192.jpg)
Jay should have been 4th.
that is the angle of the picture he is slighty angle to the left and right on the front ::)
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Looking at the shots I say Phil slightly edged out Dexter. But it was really really close so Dexter winning is cool.
I think Dexs veteran status had a little to do with it too. VERY close but I am very glad for Dex. Great to put some of this mass for mass sake back to where it should be. Now this is back to why I got into BB in the first place and get alway from the freak show. We can all dream...
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1 WOLF
2 FREEMAN
3 JACKSON
4 HEATH
5 CUTLER
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that is the angle of the picture he is slighty angle to the left and right on the front ::)
Oh, the angle put those skin folds on him?
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1Wolfe/2Heath/3Dex/4Freeman
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From sitting 7 rows back.
6th Silvio just to small to get any higher
5th Heath goes missing in the rear lat spread, in the running till this pose, can win the show if he can improve width and thickness or at least in appearnace.
4th Wolfe Big excellent taper loses his flow standing relaxed to the rear with his high calves and high lat insertions can win the Olympia but will have to go the way of being bigger and the best conditioned on stage to overcome his structural flaws, can be done.
3rd Toney Just a great look was dry and full, just wasn't thick enough for the judging criteria, but has the best looking body in the show.
2nd Jay Jay is so big and thick for his height its actually hurting him, simply wasn't hard through his back especially his lower back
1st Dexter Dexter was dexter, infact you could say hes been better before than he was tonight, just no obvious weak points okay calves are down a touch, but his body was conditioned in all places, his lower lat, lower back area was particularly well conditioned in comparison to the other guys, with the exception of freeman and Silvio. Deserved to win.
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From sitting 7 rows back.
6th Silvio just to small to get any higher
5th Heath goes missing in the rear lat spread, in the running till this pose, can win the show if he can improve width and thickness or at least in appearnace.
4th Wolfe Big excellent taper loses his flow standing relaxed to the rear with his high calves and high lat insertions can win the Olympia but will have to go the way of being bigger and the best conditioned on stage to overcome his structural flaws, can be done.
3rd Toney Just a great look was dry and full, just wasn't thick enough for the judging criteria, but has the best looking body in the show.
2nd Jay Jay is so big and thick for his height its actually hurting him, simply wasn't hard through his back especially his lower back
1st Dexter Dexter was dexter, infact you could say hes been better before than he was tonight, just no obvious weak points okay calves are down a touch, but his body was conditioned in all places, his lower lat, lower back area was particularly well conditioned in comparison to the other guys, with the exception of freeman and Silvio. Deserved to win.
Excellent! Tony in 5th was actually the biggest joke of the show. But they wont put him ahead of Phil esp...given it's hard to sell the reverse down the road that Phil is better than him. IFBB is very good at slotting guys into certain positions behind other guys.
2009 Lineup
Here's one here: If the yr has helped Ronnie and he is on...in which being dry will be more important than size for him now...will Phil place against his mature muscles? As noted...where is the back with going to come from? Same structure posterior as Flex
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i see heath first- freeman second ...
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Jays ab and thigh shot looks like his body is melting.
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Jays ab and thigh shot looks like his body is melting.
Damn melting ? Ha Ha
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no3 and no 15
#15 looks really tall and massive. ::)
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not entirely accurate to use this. It adjusts the pics of each guy to show them at the same height which is not correct. Dexter is not as tall as Dennis, but when you adjust the pic size to show them at the same height....
This is a waste of time.
i disagree. this is the way it should be shown. it allows for the adjustment of size to show proportion.
also, as far as im aware, the most muscular is not a scoring pose for comparison, or compulsory.
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Phil Heath, easily!
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cool cite!
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what a shitty shot of jay
no heis weak
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silvio samuels pictures look amazing by themselves.. too bad that's as high of a ceiling that he can probably go
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Freeman have a very good structure, both Dex and
Toney will be too old soon.
Rockel and Dex have almost the same weight, height, same conditioning,
quite similar stats overall with Dex having smaller calves but bigger arms.
I would like to see them compared side by side some day.
The judges will probably never compare them before
one of them retires.
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Where are dexters legs?
Fuck, I can't beleive this.
He looks great, but no legs or calves.
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(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/callout/2008mro_194.jpg)
I see a lot of loose skin there.
he needs to stay closer to contest weight during the offseason.
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I'm really glad Dex won: finally the judges have woken up and revisited the basics, recalling what this sport was orginally about. Hopefully the era of the big-gut freaks is gone for good.
Heath looked brilliant too, maybe even beating Dex on few direct comparisons.
Jay a definite no no....
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The judges thought they were voting for Obama.
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I'm really glad Dex won: finally the judges have woken up and revisited the basics, recalling what this sport was orginally about. Hopefully the era of the big-gut freaks is gone for good.
Heath looked brilliant too, maybe even beating Dex on few direct comparisons.
Jay a definite no no....
::) DEX has a gut ! And a ton of oil !
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::) DEX has a gut ! And a ton of oil !
hahahahahahahahahaha
NO.
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PHIL "The Gift" HEATH is the winner :)
2dn Dex
3rd Wolf
4th X Man
5the Silvio
6the Melvin
7the Jay ** this is the best he could do in 08 ;D