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Title: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: TK on June 06, 2013, 09:49:32 AM
The Arnold Sports Festival will add the 212-pound professional men’s bodybuilding division to its IFBB Pro League contests in 2014, event promoter Jim Lorimer announced today.
 
The men’s bodybuilding lightweight division has become one of the IFBB Pro League’s most popular since being introduced in 2008 as the 202-pound division. The allowed weight was increased to 212 pounds effective November 2011.
 
The first-annual Arnold Classic 212 will be held Feb. 28, 2014. Prejudging will be held from noon-2 p.m. at the Arnold Fitness EXPO Stage, with finals sets for 7 p.m. that night at Veterans Memorial.
 
The Arnold Classic 212 will replace the Ms. International women’s bodybuilding competition at the Arnold Sports Festival. The Ms. International was part of the Arnold Sports Festival for 25 years, with Iris Kyle winning her record seventh title in 2013.
 
“The Arnold Sports Festival was proud to support women’s bodybuilding through the Ms. International for the past quarter century,” Lorimer said. “But in keeping with demands of our fans, the time has come to introduce the Arnold Classic 212 beginning in 2014. We are excited to create a professional competitive platform for some of the IFBB Pro League’s most popular competitors.”
 
The 2014 Arnold Sports Festival will again feature five IFBB Pro League events: men’s bodybuilding, 212 men’s bodybuilding, women’s fitness, figure and bikini.
 
The 2014 Arnold Sports Festival – which will once again feature 18,000 athletes from more than 80 nations competing in 45 sports and events – will be held Feb. 27-March 2, 2014. Arnold Classic 212, Fitness International and Figure International competitions will be held on Friday, Feb. 28 at the Greater Columbus Convention Center and Veterans Memorial. The 26th Annual Arnold Classic and Bikini International will be held on Saturday, March 1 at Veterans Memorial. The Arnold Amateur Bodybuilding, Fitness, Figure, Bikini & Physique Championships will be held March Feb. 27-28 at Veterans Memorial and March 1 at the Greater Columbus Convention Center.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Wiggs on June 06, 2013, 11:07:07 AM
Making a power move.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: jodsy on June 06, 2013, 11:12:48 AM
disgusting man beasts
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on June 06, 2013, 11:14:18 AM
They probably realized it when the stadium would empty for the Women's round then fill back up for bikini
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: MB on June 06, 2013, 11:14:43 AM
Is fitness, figure and bikini more popular than women's bodybuilding amongst a bodybuilding audience?  None of these women's events could carry their weight if they weren't run in parallel with other contests (NPC or men's divisions).  
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: ukjeff on June 06, 2013, 11:15:07 AM
mens bodybuilding will be next to go.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Wiggs on June 06, 2013, 11:20:46 AM
mens bodybuilding will be next to go.


lol....right
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: musclecenter on June 06, 2013, 11:25:21 AM
Womens Bikini & Mens Bikini will be the mainstream in our industry ;)
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 06, 2013, 11:26:09 AM
Jesus Christ I don't think they look good but WTF? We have BIKINI, FIGURE, FITNESS, AND PHYSIQUE for Christ sakes! Let them have bodybuilding to be as big and ripped as they want! That's what the sport is about....or should I say that's what the sport of bodybuilding has come to be about!

I'm very disappointed with this decision.  :'(

I don't aspire to be like them but I do admire them for their hardcore training and crazy difficult diet regimens!
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Raymondo on June 06, 2013, 11:30:20 AM
schmoelito mejiah is in tears.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 06, 2013, 11:31:37 AM
The women's bodybuilders should be allowed to compete in the 212. Many would crush the guys. The conditioning of some of the FBB's is insane.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: musclecenter on June 06, 2013, 11:31:51 AM
....

Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Psychopath on June 06, 2013, 11:32:37 AM
Jesus Christ I don't think they look good but WTF? We have BIKINI, FIGURE, FITNESS, AND PHYSIQUE for Christ sakes! Let them have bodybuilding to be as big and ripped as they want! That's what the sport is about....or should I say that's what the sport of bodybuilding has come to be about!

I'm very disappointed with this decision.  :'(

I don't aspire to be like them but I do admire them for their hardcore training and crazy difficult diet regimens!


Yes, but hardcore drug use for a women is essentially irreversible sex change.

It's a night n day difference between the genders.

Men can always cut back to TRT and live normal lives, women on the other hand are basically fucked for life.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: MAXX on June 06, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
good

it's a trannyfest. the women probably regret getting in to it when they realize they turned in to men.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: musclecenter on June 06, 2013, 11:34:20 AM
The women's bodybuilders should be allowed to compete in the 212. Many would crush the guys. The conditioning of some of the FBB's is insane.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: hp31 on June 06, 2013, 11:35:50 AM
Smart move imo. Makes no sense to keep it when it can't put bodies in the seats. Bikini, women's & men's physique, & the 212 have grown in popularity while wbb has been on the decline for a good while now.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 06, 2013, 11:37:59 AM
So much for people enjoying freak shows. :-[ I'm sure men's bodybuilding is just a few years away as well.

It's a freak show I loved though.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Childish///AMG on June 06, 2013, 11:58:44 AM
The "Times" they are a changing 8)
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: yates fan on June 06, 2013, 11:59:53 AM
this is as bad as wrestling being taken out of the Olympics!
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 06, 2013, 01:12:03 PM
Womens Bikini & Mens Bikini will be the mainstream in our industry ;)

Oh, how "sad" no more shemales for admirers like Ahmed or Sherififi  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: timfogarty on June 06, 2013, 01:22:15 PM
Dateline 2015:  The IFBB officially changes its name to International Federation of Physique and Bikini
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Archer77 on June 06, 2013, 01:23:49 PM


What disaster.  Weirdos and their "gurus" killed women's bodybuilding
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: MAXX on June 06, 2013, 01:27:14 PM
What disaster.  Weirdos and their "gurus" killed women's bodybuilding
women taking male hormones killed womens bb. it was a lost cause from get go....
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 06, 2013, 01:35:18 PM
Dateline 2015:  The IFBB officially changes its name to International Federation of Physique and Bikini

Actually official title is: IFBB & F (F 4 fitness) !
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: arce1988 on June 06, 2013, 01:53:18 PM
  The way of the Dodo
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: hp31 on June 06, 2013, 02:11:56 PM
women taking male hormones killed womens bb. it was a lost cause from get go....

It was dead as soon as it went from this...(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/935506_10201195803927307_1533540955_n.jpg) to this...(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/KimChizevsky1.jpg) & just got progressively worst. The IFBB did nothing to try to reverse it.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: funk51 on June 06, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
....


that's a transtesticle if i ever saw one. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: jephrius on June 06, 2013, 02:19:02 PM
So much for people enjoying freak shows. :-[ I'm sure men's bodybuilding is just a few years away as well.

It's a freak show I loved though.
How does it feel to be a male posing as a female, and thinking people believe you?
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: inside you on June 06, 2013, 06:39:12 PM
Stupid decision... extreme achievement is what pushing any sport to keep going forward...   
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 06, 2013, 06:43:53 PM
Stupid decision... extreme achievement is what pushing any sport to keep going forward...   

Very stupid and with the next few years we are going to see bikini competitors looking like figure girls, figure girls looking like physique girls and physique girls getting bigger looking like bodybuilders.

This is already starting to trend.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: jude2 on June 06, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
The women's bodybuilders should be allowed to compete in the 212. Many would crush the guys. The conditioning of some of the FBB's is insane.
They might have a legal case here.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Big Daddy Caine on June 06, 2013, 07:45:49 PM
Well, one reason to go to Columbus in winter just went out the window
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: POB on June 06, 2013, 07:46:09 PM
....



Vinny galanti looking smooth there
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: jude2 on June 06, 2013, 07:50:42 PM
Vinny galanti looking smooth there
His arms look better here.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: EH on June 06, 2013, 10:06:30 PM
who cares?

if it made money it'd still be there, but it doesn't so it's gone.

they'll make more money doing videos online or 'private sessions'.

Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Vince B on June 06, 2013, 10:33:19 PM
We get what we deserve and we deserve what we get....for having the caliber of people in the organizations that run bodybuilding. It has always been a circus and cult but it sure has deteriorated because of decisions made or maybe not made that led to what we witness today.

There were two things that ruined women's bodybuilding. The drugs and the silicon. Take both away and start all over. Look at how there are so many categories. That simply means the judges have no clue what to look for. It is all a sham. Beauty pageants.

By allowing silicon it gave the women a way to retain breast size after losing most preparing for competition. Since the silly judges separate competitors mainly by conditioning it has led to the overly cut physiques on the women.

The costumes revealed more than is attractive on female bodies. I am referring to the area just above the thighs. The cut is too high. In most women there is no muscle there. Anyway, what can we expect from these officials? More of the same.

What a shame the direction will be made by promoters instead of the organizations.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on June 06, 2013, 10:35:05 PM
We get what we deserve and we deserve what we get....for having the caliber of people in the organizations that run bodybuilding. It has always been a circus and cult but it sure has deteriorated because of decisions made or maybe not made that led to what we witness today.

There were two things that ruined women's bodybuilding. The drugs and the silicon. Take both away and start all over. Look at how there are so many categories. That simply means the judges have no clue what to look for. It is all a sham. Beauty pageants.

By allowing silicon it gave the women a way to retain breast size after losing most preparing for competition. Since the silly judges separate competitors mainly by conditioning it has led to the overly cut physiques on the women.

The costumes revealed more than is attractive on female bodies. I am referring to the area just above the thighs. The cut is too high. In most women there is no muscle there. Anyway, what can we expect from these officials? More of the same.

What a shame the direction will be made by promoters instead of the organizations.

Fuck off loser.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: musclecenter on June 07, 2013, 12:51:43 AM
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on June 07, 2013, 02:20:10 AM
There were two things that ruined women's bodybuilding. The drugs and the silicon. 

I agree.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: falco on June 07, 2013, 03:13:36 AM
....



this is definatelly a man!
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: _aj_ on June 07, 2013, 04:25:07 AM
Very stupid and with the next few years we are going to see bikini competitors looking like figure girls, figure girls looking like physique girls and physique girls getting bigger looking like bodybuilders.

This is already starting to trend.

Yep. It'll be like a conveyer belt with the most socially unacceptable falling off the end every 10 years or so. Thus it has always been.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 07, 2013, 05:44:31 AM
Oh brother.  ::)

Silicon had nothing to do with wrecking woman's bodybuilding.

If that was the case bikini and figure would be down the tubes.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Disgusted on June 07, 2013, 09:36:52 AM
Oh brother.  ::)

Silicon had nothing to do with wrecking woman's bodybuilding.

If that was the case bikini and figure would be down the tubes.

Exactly
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Agent69 on June 07, 2013, 10:33:20 AM
mens bodybuilding will be next to go.
That'll never happen ....
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Heywood on June 07, 2013, 10:43:21 AM
It was dead as soon as it went from this...(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/935506_10201195803927307_1533540955_n.jpg) to this...(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/KimChizevsky1.jpg) & just got progressively worst. The IFBB did nothing to try to reverse it.

I would agree.  I assume the audiences got more and more uncomfortable watching this, not sure whether to laugh or applaud.

Note that the competitors are given virtually no credit for their development, because it is a foregone conclusion that it is 99.9% drugs, regardless of how hard their training and dieting.

Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: ukjeff on June 07, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
That'll never happen ....
It may not disappear totally but it will be relegated to a weird aftershow once the Physique guys have been on.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: MB on June 07, 2013, 12:41:22 PM
Oh brother.  ::)

Silicon had nothing to do with wrecking woman's bodybuilding.

If that was the case bikini and figure would be down the tubes.
Professional bikini and figure are down the tubes.  Neither can support themselves without piggybacking with other shows.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Agent69 on June 07, 2013, 01:37:39 PM
It may not disappear totally but it will be relegated to a weird aftershow once the Physique guys have been on.
Physique lol .. Ok take the men's bbing out of the Olympia and try to sell tickets and see how many stick around to watch  the ever so entertaining men's bikini boys do there  1/4 turns lol
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: MB on June 07, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
Physique lol .. Ok take the men's bbing out of the Olympia and try to sell tickets and see how many stick around to watch  the ever so entertaining men's bikini boys do there  1/4 turns lol


Yup, other than men's bodybuilding at the Arnold & Olympia, no other pro division can support itself.  The pro divisions are created based on NPC numbers.  If the amateur numbers are high, a pro division will be formed regardless of whether it can support itself or not.  It's a bit unfair to shut down women's bodybuilding because it's actually the most popular women's division amongst spectators, but doesn't have the NPC numbers of the others. 
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: BikiniSlut on June 07, 2013, 04:00:32 PM
Yup, other than men's bodybuilding at the Arnold & Olympia, no other pro division can support itself.  The pro divisions are created based on NPC numbers.  If the amateur numbers are high, a pro division will be formed regardless of whether it can support itself or not.  It's a bit unfair to shut down women's bodybuilding because it's actually the most popular women's division amongst spectators, but doesn't have the NPC numbers of the others. 

All the women's division can. Figure, bikini, and physique have plenty of shows on their own. The only one that is more dead than Female Bodybuilding is Fitness. No idea why it is still in existence.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: LATS on June 07, 2013, 04:56:25 PM
 Men's physique only makes money for the  NYC and ifbb because of the number of entries.. The ticket sales, if physique was held on its own , are dismal.. But the money on the entry fee is good.. Men's bodybuilding on the other hand pulls in the crowd still.. I know its not popular to say here but it does.. What figure and physique does is allow more entries and yes,they do bring some family.. But regular fans they do t draw at all. That is why they are held together.. One feeds off the other.. 
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: timfogarty on June 07, 2013, 05:46:07 PM
Men's physique only makes money for the  NYC and ifbb because of the number of entries.. The ticket sales, if physique was held on its own , are dismal.. But the money on the entry fee is good.. Men's bodybuilding on the other hand pulls in the crowd still.. I know its not popular to say here but it does.. What figure and physique does is allow more entries and yes,they do bring some family.. But regular fans they do t draw at all. That is why they are held together.. One feeds off the other.. 

lots of pro men's bodybuilding contests last a few years then disappear.  auditorium was 90% empty.  Colorado, that one in Connecticut a few years back, Ironman, Flex Pro.  No pro bodybuilding in Los Angeles this year.  Yet the LA Pro Physique Grand Prix back in April did quite well.    Many pro IFBB contests without bodybuilding this year.  bet there are even more next year.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: MB on June 07, 2013, 06:20:16 PM
All the women's division can. Figure, bikini, and physique have plenty of shows on their own. The only one that is more dead than Female Bodybuilding is Fitness. No idea why it is still in existence.

I can't think of a single pro figure or bikini show that is supporting itself.  Every one of them is held in conjunction with either an NPC show or pro men's bodybuilding show. 
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: jude2 on June 07, 2013, 08:13:32 PM
Yes the NPC portion lets these smaller shows take place. Without them no way.
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: Teutonic Knight on June 07, 2013, 11:02:20 PM
I can't think of a single pro figure or bikini show that is supporting itself.  Every one of them is held in conjunction with either an NPC show or pro men's bodybuilding show. 

Simple solution: those Mz.International/pro figure females (if they a  ???) without bra should be allowed to compete with boys (anyway, some of them look too manly ) in pro man's shows  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D reality is that some of the "girlz" would defeat Frank Zane or Robbie Robinson in theirs heydays  ::) ::) ::)

So Ifbb Pro League, please no more sexual categorizations and just 1 category for all  ;) ;) ;)
O, by the way Olympia is traditional Greeks pussy name  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The end of women's bodybuilding in the IFBB as it goes away from the Arnold
Post by: SmallPole on June 07, 2013, 11:46:01 PM
The women's bodybuilders should be allowed to compete in the 212. Many would crush the guys. The conditioning of some of the FBB's is insane.

i think that's actually a good idea  ;D