Author Topic: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!  (Read 10789 times)

Ursus

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11338
  • Getbig!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #75 on: November 26, 2011, 07:20:21 AM »
What Ron Harris can is is more than most people can do - HOWEVER

A decently strong guy who trained with that ROM for a few weeks would get way way stronger very quickly. Its like doing rack pulls I know a 140lb guy who can rack pull 660lbs - from about 4-5" short of lockout

You can see where he starts to bring it around the chin level how much harder it is for him. That ROM is very specific and I would be genuinely surprised if he could do 2-3 reps from his clavicle with 275lbs

mesmorph78

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10953
  • there can only be one...
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2011, 07:38:59 AM »
goud i think ur the strongest shoulder presser... your just built for it i think....
especially the standing version

in regard to the 100 smith maching press... that i wouldnt put down as a show of strength

ive used smith machinche that make the weight super easy.... i mean u push the bar up on its own empty and it takes 5 seconds to come back down...
same as when people use leg press as a show of strength... nonsense.... some leg presses are super easy and allow people to pile on weight to show off....
FREE  weight is where its at
choice is an illusion

Ursus

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11338
  • Getbig!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2011, 07:41:38 AM »
There are stronger guys than me pressing but I just enjoy shoulder pressing. There will be lots of guys on this stronger - that bbuilder turned strongman

I have never used a smith machine so it would be interesting to see the difference!

The_Leafy_Bug

  • Guest
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2011, 08:49:27 AM »
goud i think ur the strongest shoulder presser... your just built for it i think....
especially the standing version

in regard to the 100 smith maching press... that i wouldnt put down as a show of strength

ive used smith machinche that make the weight super easy.... i mean u push the bar up on its own empty and it takes 5 seconds to come back down...
same as when people use leg press as a show of strength... nonsense.... some leg presses are super easy and allow people to pile on weight to show off....
FREE  weight is where its at
Try it and show me your video of how easy it is  :). Notice i said 300 as well. Not 335. That bar is - 35 lbs.

chaos

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 57579
  • Ron "There is no freedom of speech here" Avidan
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #79 on: November 26, 2011, 08:55:16 AM »
Honestly, LB, what's the point? You didn't do one full rep. And that whole "focus on the range of the muscle" or whatever is bullshit, your shoulder don't stop moving when the bar gets to your nose and the top of your head. ::)

Why not lighten up and do full range, chin to lockout?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

mesmorph78

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10953
  • there can only be one...
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2011, 08:57:59 AM »
Try it and show me your video of how easy it is  :). Notice i said 300 as well. Not 335. That bar is - 35 lbs.


When I use smith I do 5 sets ending with 315 3 plates. Side
And sometimes that's my second excersise that's after dumbell presses sometimes ending at 130s
   So nope that's. It hard :-\
Good press what I'm saying is smith machines are deceptive some are easy and I wouldn't use that as a show of strength
choice is an illusion

chaos

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 57579
  • Ron "There is no freedom of speech here" Avidan
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2011, 08:59:25 AM »
Yeah but you're on a lot more steroids than Leafy is. :)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

mesmorph78

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10953
  • there can only be one...
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2011, 09:01:59 AM »
Yeah but you're on a lot more steroids than Leafy is. :)


I've never in my life ever taken any drugs and never will
That's on my family's life.
... If u want to tell yourself different that's on you
But it's getting kind of old now.
choice is an illusion

Ursus

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11338
  • Getbig!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2011, 09:02:28 AM »
Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode

wes

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 65398
  • What Dire Mishap Has Befallen Thee
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2011, 09:03:48 AM »
Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
That`s how I do it,but I`m old and small so it doesn`t count!!  :(

Ursus

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11338
  • Getbig!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #85 on: November 26, 2011, 09:05:31 AM »
It is teh best way!

You are as big and as strong as anyone else can be at your weight and age bud!! Very Impressive

mesmorph78

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10953
  • there can only be one...
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2011, 09:05:54 AM »
Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
Quick question goud when your doing standing shoulder presses what stance works better for you legs both straight across or one leg behind for balance
choice is an illusion

chaos

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 57579
  • Ron "There is no freedom of speech here" Avidan
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2011, 09:19:13 AM »
SteroidAbuser78.... Feet side by side, open about shoulder width is more difficult because you use your abs/lower back to stabilize the body during the press, split stance takes a lot of that out of the move, if you want to build power keep your feet side by side. Even in the "jerk" when the legs are split the move isn't complete until the legs are side by side. For some real fun try feet together, legs stiff. ;)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

Ursus

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11338
  • Getbig!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2011, 09:29:32 AM »
Quick question goud when your doing standing shoulder presses what stance works better for you legs both straight across or one leg behind for balance

Feet beside each other kinda wideish stance. Ill see if there is a video somewhere.

wes

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 65398
  • What Dire Mishap Has Befallen Thee
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2011, 09:31:10 AM »
Thanks Goudy!  :)

Well,one thing I will say is that whatever type of training Leafy does,it`s working.......guy has good size and classic lines.

Ursus

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11338
  • Getbig!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2011, 09:33:58 AM »
Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.

Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance. I am in green t-shirt


wes

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 65398
  • What Dire Mishap Has Befallen Thee
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2011, 09:34:38 AM »
Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.

Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance.


I hear ya` bud........wasn`t trying to insinute that at all.

mesmorph78

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10953
  • there can only be one...
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2011, 09:41:30 AM »
Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.

Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance. I am in green t-shirt



Good stuff man
choice is an illusion

The True Adonis

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50255
  • Fear is proof of a degenerate mind.
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2011, 09:42:35 AM »
When I do shoulder press with a Barbell, I usually clean it and then sit down with it on my Shoulder Bench and then press it from clavicle to lockout.  Being that my arms are abnormally long, if I did the 90 degree upper arm and elbow stopping point (traditional way I think) I literally would move it 1-2 inches and not get anything out of it.

I am able to do my bodyweight for 10 cleaning and then clavicle to lockout which I don`t think is too bad at all.


There is no one way to train thats for sure, its different for everyone and different in many circumstances.  

wes

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 65398
  • What Dire Mishap Has Befallen Thee
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2011, 09:44:56 AM »
There is no one way to train thats for sure, its different for everyone and different in many circumstances. 
QFT........everyone should experiment and do what works best for them.

This may change over time,so always keep an open mind.

QuakerOats

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 13621
  • bring amberlamps!!!
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2011, 10:25:54 AM »
Oh I agree I am taking nothing away from Leafy at all he looks great.

Meso, vid of me in background I am warming up hence no lockout etc but you can see my stance. I am in green t-shirt


jesus Goudy what i want to know is what are you doing for that crazy back? your back looks a mile and a half wide.

chaos

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 57579
  • Ron "There is no freedom of speech here" Avidan
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2011, 10:29:35 AM »
Steroids: not just for races horses anymore.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

The_Leafy_Bug

  • Guest
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #97 on: November 26, 2011, 02:15:34 PM »
Also the best way to work the delts is to press from the clavicle. Try it your delts will explode
So you are telling me you want to put a 300+ lbs load with your humerus at a negative 45 degree angle with the only thing holding it in place is a strip of tendon? Go for it man. Remember you used momentum to get it past the bottom half. It's not safe. You can only get away with it for so long.

The_Leafy_Bug

  • Guest
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #98 on: November 26, 2011, 02:16:23 PM »

aesthetics

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2765
  • ~lil' cutey~
Re: LeafyBug Training Clips 300lbs shoulder press!
« Reply #99 on: November 26, 2011, 02:25:44 PM »
Honestly, LB, what's the point? You didn't do one full rep. And that whole "focus on the range of the muscle" or whatever is bullshit, your shoulder don't stop moving when the bar gets to your nose and the top of your head. ::)

Why not lighten up and do full range, chin to lockout?

going down to your chin is dumb, unnecessary and just asking for an injury