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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: camelisator on May 25, 2009, 02:24:54 PM
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In the 80's and 90's which most of you grew up during, you would spend your hard earn money on a magazine in order to worship your musclemen.
All looked good on paper, Chris Dickerson did not sleep with "men", Demayo did not have a nubain of a problem, hell, even Titus would looked respectable; unless you were an inside you would not know about certain "tricks", like the Mirage Hotel, how to stay icognito in a bathroom stall aka the "trick-o-paperbags", how focked up chemicalization was...
All looked respectable.
Then came the internets; a democratization of the back scenes, a shiny spot on how things really are....
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Young fool... only now... at the end... do you understand.
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bitch ass em there is nothing wrong with kai green. one of the only bodybuilders who can actually talk with a little bit of intelligence, epic work ethic, truly a fan of the sport, entertaining... he is the way bodybuilding needs to go.
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Freak....
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bitch ass em there is nothing wrong with kai green. one of the only bodybuilders who can actually talk with a little bit of intelligence, epic work ethic, truly a fan of the sport, entertaining... he is the way bodybuilding needs to go.
ok...it's already there dude...
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bitch ass em there is nothing wrong with kai green. one of the only bodybuilders who can actually talk with a little bit of intelligence, epic work ethic, truly a fan of the sport, entertaining... he is the way bodybuilding needs to go.
Forgive me for I've been mislead.
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bitch ass em there is nothing wrong with kai green. one of the only bodybuilders who can actually talk with a little bit of intelligence, epic work ethic, truly a fan of the sport, entertaining... he is the way bodybuilding needs to go.
Says the guy who is openly juiced to the gills and has nothing to show up for... yup the "direction it needs to go"
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Says the guy who is openly juiced to the gills and has nothing to show up for... yup the "direction it needs to go"
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:o :o :o :o :o
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Says the guy who is openly juiced to the gills and has nothing to show up for... yup the "direction it needs to go"
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I hate when they do that..... ;D
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Says the guy who is openly juiced to the gills and has nothing to show up for... yup the "direction it needs to go"
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i am open about using steroids.
the fact that you are juicing and using other drugs and you lie about it, that doesnt make anyone who is honest about juicing an abuser. that just means we are honest about it.
man, you must really fuckin hate yourself dude.
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In the 80's and 90's which most of you grew up during, you would spend your hard earn money on a magazine in order to worship your musclemen.
All looked good on paper, Chris Dickerson did not sleep with "men", Demayo did not have a nubain of a problem, hell, even Titus would looked respectable; unless you were an inside you would not know about certain "tricks", like the Mirage Hotel, how to stay icognito in a bathroom stall aka the "trick-o-paperbags", how focked up chemicalization was...
All looked respectable.
Then came the internets; a democratization of the back scenes, a shiny spot on how things really are....
can you elaborate on some of hte things you mentioned...mirage hotel, paperbags....solely for the purpose of me being a gossip whore??
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can you elaborate on some of hte things you mentioned...mirage hotel, paperbags....solely for the purpose of me being a gossip whore??
The Mirage hotel was well known G4P hotspot throughout the 90's...
Let's say you would prefer to stay icognito while accomodating schmoe sausages in many ways, standing in paper bags is a good way to "blend in". A trick Tom Prince perfected in the 90's, at one point trips to Trader's Joe solely purpose was to aquire new bags. Of course this never made it in MuscleMag or "FLEX" magazine.
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Boost, what's that thing at the bottom of your post?
Are you saying that crazy drug regiments has allowed certain people to get to a certain level they should've never gotten if more emphasis was put on mother nature?
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Boost, what's that thing at the bottom of your post?
Are you saying that crazy drug regiments has allowed certain people to get to a certain level they should've never gotten if more emphasis was put on mother nature?
I'm browsing some of the IronAge sites and just realising that those guys looked better than many of the bloated midgets we've got parading around nowadays, with bacne, moonface, gyno and all the other sides.
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i am open about using steroids.
the fact that you are juicing and using other drugs and you lie about it, that doesnt make anyone who is honest about juicing an abuser. that just means we are honest about it.
man, you must really fuckin hate yourself dude.
LoL, you're still barking up that tree? Not sure who you think I am but all I read is comment from a 20yo kid who seem to take huge amounts of drugs and has nothing to show for from what I've heard as well. Some guys on here claim they trained with you and could not believe how little progress you've made.. I think you owe us some picassas...
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The Mirage hotel was well known G4P hotspot throughout the 90's...
Let's say you would prefer to stay icognito while accomodating schmoe sausages in many ways, standing in paper bags is a good way to "blend in". A trick Tom Prince perfected in the 90's, at one point trips to Trader's Joe solely purpose was to aquire new bags. Of course this never made it in MuscleMag or "FLEX" magazine.
you mean they would place paper bags over their heads so as only their body would be revealed to schmoes and thier identity remained a mystery??? i dont mean to be a pest, im just trying to understand?
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you mean they would place paper bags over their heads so as only their body would be revealed to schmoes and thier identity remained a mystery??? i dont mean to be a pest, im just trying to understand?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If only... we wouldn't be having this conversation....
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this is where it should have stopped.
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even larry got carried away got himself overbulked didn't like the way he looked even though he was a 2 time 2 time mr o.
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going from posing trunks to thongs.
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there are many that feel that the downfall of modern bodybuilding began with the 1994 olympia contest.
that was the year the judges awarded bloated, injured mass the win over a much better quality (but smaller) physique..
the mass + bloated gut conqured all, no matter how good the package was.
a bad sign of things to come..
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There's this guy I know, let's call him Alex, who could bring respectability back to the sport. Straighter than an arrow, family man, immensely successful in all areas, friend to all minorities (except those dirty jews and a-raabs) AND all natural to boot. His side chest reminds me of Arnold. One show away from a pro card.
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there are many that feel that the downfall of modern bodybuilding began with the 1994 olympia contest.
that was the year the judges awarded bloated, injured mass the win over a much better quality (but smaller) physique..
the mass + bloated gut conqured all, no matter how good the package was.
a bad sign of things to come..
You're obviously deluded by your love for brown musclemen... this thread has nothing to do with physiques but all to do with the perception the small fan base has of the "subculture". Now that the media isn't self contained in the magazines, as the internet made it irrelevant, the truth is out and not pleasant for everyone...
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There's this guy I know, let's call him Alex, who could bring respectability back to the sport. Straighter than an arrow, family man, immensely successful in all areas, friend to all minorities (except those dirty jews and a-raabs) AND all natural to boot. His side chest reminds me of Arnold. One show away from a pro card.
pics?
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pics?
He thinks taking pics is gay. He would never do a youtube request video for a homo either. He does NOT pander to the homosexual bodybuilding undercurrent!
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You're obviously deluded by your love for brown musclemen... this thread has nothing to do with physiques but all to do with the perception the small fan base has of the "subculture". Now that the media isn't self contained in the magazines, as the internet made it irrelevant, the truth is out and not pleasant for everyone...
wrong. it has everything to do with physiques, because this is what the judges began awarding Mr. Olympia's to:
beginning in the mid 90's: this is the truth that you speak of..and its not pleasant as you say.
prior to that, quality ruled the day.
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A lot of human dignity in the first two thirds of
this thread page one.
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wrong. it has everything to do with physiques, because this is what the judges began awarding Mr. Olympia's to:
beginning in the mid 90's: this is the truth that you speak of..and its not pleasant as you say.
prior to that, quality ruled the day.
Ha ha ha ha more pics from that very same contest kid stop trolling , you can argue about 97 all you want 94 was NO contest even Shawn said so
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94 Dorian was off from 93 and still leaps & bounds better than everyone else
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You're obviously deluded by your love for brown musclemen... this thread has nothing to do with physiques but all to do with the perception the small fan base has of the "subculture". Now that the media isn't self contained in the magazines, as the internet made it irrelevant, the truth is out and not pleasant for everyone...
Great post ! just another opportunity for the fan boy to bash Yates
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Without a doubt Insulin is the scourge that killed bodybuilding.
Of course if one wants to take it a step further...one could lay this at the door of Dan Duchaine, (whom I was very fond of just for the record).
Modern Bodybuilding is a world that Dan created....as much as Mishko would like to take credit for inventing Insulin....it was Dan that pioneered its use as an exogenous aid. Dorian ran with this...and brought in the current era.
However...I blame bodybuilders themselves.....no one these days has a mindset to stand out. There is no "right" or "wrong" physique. If you present your body in the right fashion...and can project the right attitude, then it will be the de facto winning physique. (Up to a point).
For example....did Arnold always win because he was the best? Or was he so charismatic that as a judge you just WANTED to get behind him 100%. If todays crop of pros were content on maximazing the best traits that they had...instead of trying to play follow the leader with their drug regimes....then we would have much better physiques today.
M!
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LOL ND is melting down cause I struck a cord like I always do.
I play him like a panio..
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LOL ND is melting down cause I struck a cord like I always do.
I play him like a panio..
You struck nothing all you did is post a pic of Yates relaxed and Shawn posing you have no point and you're deathly afraid to post a side-by-side comparison of the two flexing because it shuts you down
Dorian is the clear winner in 1994 Shawn Ray himself said so you're just trolling as usual . even Musclemag said Dorian was the rightful winner as usula you have nothing...you realize you can't debate with me so you just troll the same pics and the same bullshit ..nothing new with you
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You struck nothing all you did is post a pic of Yates relaxed and Shawn posing you have no point and you're deathly afraid to post a side-by-side comparison of the two flexing because it shuts you down
sure it does ::)
shawn's back double bi was even better than dorian's
sure, dorian has more upper back thickness.
but the quality (remember what we are talking about?) of shawn's pose is better:
better detail, better glutes/hams, better arms/delts (not injured and deformed) etc.
dorian is bigger. but not better.
the point is proven: even with dorian's 'best pose'
ps even musclemag agreed their olympia review
hahahaha
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dorian vs ronnie after just one page :'(
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sure it does ::)
shawn's back double bi was even better than dorian's
sure, dorian has more upper back thickness.
but the quality (remember what we are talking about?) of shawn's pose is better:
better detail, better glutes/hams, better arms/delts (not injured and deformed) etc.
dorian is bigger. but not better.
the point is proven: even with dorian's 'best pose'
ps even musclemag agreed their olympia review
hahahaha
Yeah he really has a better back double biceps pose ::) totally indicative of your ignorance , Shawn doesn't beat Dorian in muscular bulk , density perhaps matches him in dryness , can't touch him in balance & proportion , I laughed when you typed Dorian has more upper back thickness LMFAO Dorian's entire back has more thickness EVERYWHERE compared to ANYONE on that stage the fact you think Shawn is winning that pose , shows exactly why you're stupid enough to believe he won the contest , like 1993 there was NO CONTEST for first that is and this is from MuscleMag fan-boy ;)
Musclemag International Feb 1995
On the 1994 Mr Olympia
Was it after all a luckywin? I chose to use the word " lucky " because without a doubt there was an element of luck involved in Dorian's third consecutive Mr. O title . He was far from his best.
I would NOT not wish the reader to leave these pages thinking that the Sandow had been given a handout. THAT WOULD BE FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
and Shawn Ray
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
case closed , Dorian won easily
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dorian vs ronnie after just one page :'(
No Dorian vs Ronnie , Hulkster trolling nothing new
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No Dorian vs Ronnie , Hulkster trolling nothing new
nope, commenting on the 1994 olympia result and its implications on the sports future is not trolling.
after all, this thread is about the root cause of bodybuilding's downfall
look at the sport today and what it has become. it all started with the mid 90's - the dorian yates controversial post tear wins..
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nope, commenting on the 1994 olympia result and its implications on the sports future is not trolling.
It's trolling when you post pics of Yates relaxed and Shawn flexed , you're a troll period. and if you knew the first thing about competitive bodybuilding you'd know people were crying Haney was to big , to far from what the sport should represent , the magazines were all pushing Bob Paris as the ideal Mr Olympia , Lee Labrada with a classical type physique it's nothing new you wouldn't know this because you're hopelessly clueless when it comes to bodybuilding .
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Without a doubt Insulin is the scourge that killed bodybuilding.
Of course if one wants to take it a step further...one could lay this at the door of Dan Duchaine, (whom I was very fond of just for the record).
Modern Bodybuilding is a world that Dan created....as much as Mishko would like to take credit for inventing Insulin....it was Dan that pioneered its use as an exogenous aid. Dorian ran with this...and brought in the current era.
However...I blame bodybuilders themselves.....no one these days has a mindset to stand out. There is no "right" or "wrong" physique. If you present your body in the right fashion...and can project the right attitude, then it will be the de facto winning physique. (Up to a point).
For example....did Arnold always win because he was the best? Or was he so charismatic that as a judge you just WANTED to get behind him 100%. If todays crop of pros were content on maximazing the best traits that they had...instead of trying to play follow the leader with their drug regimes....then we would have much better physiques today.
M!
Many truths can be found in this post...
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Fanny packs
goatees
tribal tattoos
gay4pay
fitness/figuire/bikini hoes
stupid, disgusting water gallon jugs being carried around
dressing like you are out of connecticut clown college
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Lol Tbombz is so obviously got a crush on Alex. It's kinda painful to watch and know the truth that Alex would not go near his salt semen mouth and deeply massaged tissues
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Of course its going to fail when only two shows are webstreamed. Top guys only compete twice a year. No television coverage. And yes. I use to buy mags and think of these guys as gods before the internet..
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JEEZUS CHRIST! Can't you schmoes take your bickering to your 1500+ page schmoefest thread?
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Fanny packs
goatees
tribal tattoos
gay4pay
fitness/figuire/bikini hoes
stupid, disgusting water gallon jugs being carried around
dressing like you are out of connecticut clown college
really, on a sidenote, what the fuck is with this "bikini division"...was figure not lifeless and sleep inducing enough as it is. i like looking at hot chicks more than anyone, but this universal inclusionism, everybody deserves a trophy kind of attitude is ridiculous. it makes sense that there should be a medium for female competition a notch below some of the extreme physiques we see on female bodybuilding stages, thus fitness was born...figure...now thats a stretch,,,you can walk through downtown south beach or a high end strip club, throw a rock, and hit five girls who would be immediately competitive on most "figure" stages...remember girls, inordinately flare your lats and push your asses out to inhuman dimensions....now "bikini"...you can litterally go to daytona beach or spring break in Cancun...throw a rock...a hit 20 sloppy drunk whores who could represent the first generation of "bikini pros", yes gentleman...these women would technically be considered professional athletes.
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JEEZUS CHRIST! Can't you schmoes take your bickering to your 1500+ page schmoefest thread?
Indeed Gordyman... they need to take it in their shitthread before this one ends up there too >:( >:( >:(
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really, on a sidenote, what the fuck is with this "bikini division"...was figure not lifeless and sleep inducing enough as it is. i like looking at hot chicks more than anyone, but this universal inclusionism, everybody deserves a trophy kind of attitude is ridiculous. it makes sense that there should be a medium for female competition a notch below some of the extreme physiques we see on female bodybuilding stages, thus fitness was born...figure...now thats a stretch,,,you can walk through downtown south beach or a high end strip club, throw a rock, and hit five girls who would be immediately competitive on most "figure" stages...remember girls, inordinately flare your lats and push your asses out to inhuman dimensions....now "bikini"...you can litterally go to daytona beach or spring break in Cancun...throw a rock...a hit 20 sloppy drunk whores who could represent the first generation of "bikini pros", yes gentleman...these women would technically be considered professional athletes.
It's all about the mighty dollar.....more bimbos enter = more entry fees. Simple as that. Now any stripper can call her self a competitive athlete.
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It's all about the mighty dollar.....more bimbos enter = more entry fees. Simple as that. Now any stripper can call her self a competitive athlete.
"im a bikini professional"........no, your a dirty, dirty stripper" :)
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"im a bikini professional"........no, your a dirty, dirty stripper" :)
extremely clever.
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Kai Greene is one of the few gifted bodybuilders who made bodybuilding more exciting, just based on his unique and entertaining posing alone. If that's too much for you, try Golf or Tennis. Bodybuilding is physical and visual.
Not everybody is into over sized muscles or oiled up bodies on stage. But in order to reach a larger audience (not just friends & families of competitors) you need to make bodybuilding
A) more entertaining
B) more sexy
C) more honest (less hypocrisy regarding the drug issue)
The real downfall of bodybuilding has to do with the politics. That was very evident at the last NY PRO. A guy automatically places higher ...
A) if he has the same sponsor as the federation
B) has been around forever, so he knows all judges
C) is local
D) trains in the gym of one of the judges
While the US Amateurs (NPC) and the IFBB Pro League seem to be organized fairly well, the international Amateurs (IFBB) have major problems with corruption and inconsistent, unfair, and ridiculous doping policies.
Another problem is that every bodybuilder is labeled "gay" if he is photographed as a model and good looking, especially on this board. For some reason nobody labels the fitness girls as "lesbians". The gay audience has nothing to do with the "downfall of bodybuilding." Without the gay audience who would buy all the muscle magazines? If you are always so outraged about this you cut off your own legs.
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Kai Greene is one of the few gifted bodybuilders who made bodybuilding more exciting, just based on his unique and entertaining posing alone. If that's too much for you, try Golf or Tennis.
That's where I stopped reading.
Shopping for balls and a good club first thing tomorow. Watching a guy doing little bicycle kicks while standing on his head is too "hip" for me...
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That's where I stopped reading.
Ditto. Only a handful of women and gay guys seem to think that Kai Greene is "entertaining" and a "great poser". All I've seen him do is move like he has no dignity whatsoever - yeah, a jacked dude wearing an already skimpy thong hitching it up his ass even more before doing a handstand and splitting his legs like a stripper, followed by shaking his gigantic ass slowly to bedroom music onstage is what all of us want to see ::)
Free tip for you if you are reading this, Kai - watch YouTube clips of guys like Dorian Yates or Dennis Wolf or Shawn Ray posing, to see how you too can pose without making those of us watching comps cringe when you are onstage, doing your routine.
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Ditto. Only a handful of women and gay guys seem to think that Kai Greene is "entertaining" and a "great poser". All I've seen him do is move like he has no dignity whatsoever - yeah, a jacked dude wearing an already skimpy thong hitching it up his ass even more before doing a handstand and splitting his legs like a stripper, followed by shaking his gigantic ass slowly to bedroom music onstage is what all of us want to see ::)
Free tip for you if you are reading this, Kai - watch YouTube clips of guys like Dorian Yates or Dennis Wolf or Shawn Ray posing, to see how you too can pose without making those of us watching comps cringe when you are onstage, doing your routine.
how are you queerwiol?
wellyspeed
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how are you queerwiol?
wellyspeed
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Wish I was better, glad I'm not worse - you know how it goes.
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Wish I was better, glad I'm not worse - you know how it goes.
are you still addicted to antidepressants? ;D
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are you still addicted to antidepressants? ;D
The only thing I've been addicted to is sugar, brah. Never been on Antidepressants, although it wouldn't do me any harm to do a course or 10, lmao!
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The only thing I've been addicted to is sugar, brah. Never been on Antidepressants, although it wouldn't do me any harm to do a course or 10, lmao!
'Beloves M(ale) Cock' seems to be a crusade to push your buttons with lies. He must be bored...
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'Beloves M(ale) Cock' seems to be a crusade to push your buttons with lies. He must be bored...
tell king23 'we' say hi
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tell king23 'we' say hi
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camelisator you should ask Kurryol some questions to show you care about him..........
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camelisator you should ask Kurryol some questions to show you care about him..........
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camelisator you should ask Kurryol some questions to show you care about him..........
LMAO @ Kurryol ;D
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LMAO @ Kurryol ;D
the second choice was "arvinator" ;D