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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: pestosterone on May 21, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
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Superdrol gives me gyno. Does it do any body else like that? I would really like 2 run it again because its badass was thinking mayb 10 mg pre workouts I have ran as high as 40 mgs but in the past it made my nipples puffy. On the other hand I was higher body fat.. currently on test bout 2 drop tren I love it but stopping just starting mast E... I would've preferred prop but dude had E at 300mg/ml and out of mastprop. Thanks for any input. Just have a bottle of badassed SD sitting around and I respond great to it... so do my nipples :( lol so itd be testo bout 400 weekly mast e 600 and sd for 6or 8 weeks im gonna get back on tren.
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you sure it's superdrol? should be oral masteron.. dht derivative and non-aromatizing.
superdrol is about 2.5-3x the cost of other orals (dbol/drol/winstrol) to produce (superdrol, proviron, var, ect.. are all the same price).
if var is faked with combo's of dbol and winstrol, I can easily see superdrol being faked with winstrol and dbol as well.. even drol.
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you sure it's superdrol? should be oral masteron.. dht derivative and non-aromatizing.
superdrol is about 2.5-3x the cost of other orals (dbol/drol/winstrol) to produce (superdrol, proviron, var, ect.. are all the same price).
if var is faked with combo's of dbol and winstrol, I can easily see superdrol being faked with winstrol and dbol as well.. even drol.
You sure about that?I think they are 2 diffrent compounds.
I know superdrols chemical name is Methasteron but I didn;t think it was the same compound as Methyl-masteron. I believe they are diffrent. I think superdrol is stronger then Methylated-Masteron.
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some peeps get prolactin related sides from superdrol. It is based off masteron, but then so is EQ based off of Dbol and dbol from test lol.. so just because its related don't mean squat... m1t is related to test... and the new dimethbold (double methyl dbol) is related to dbol and bold.. so... ya.. none of them are really alike.
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I bought it suposedly before the ban from mr supps its called beastdrol is the strongest one I have but have several bottles of mdrol Ill look on the bottles tomorrow and type u the supposed ingredients.sucks because it was bout 3 times stronger than dbol for weight gain and strength gain and it was legal at the time. Probably prolactin related like Ahmed said.. take prami with it I guess like for tren? Also I bought the mdrols 2006 mayb..
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some peeps get prolactin related sides from superdrol. It is based off masteron, but then so is EQ based off of Dbol and dbol from test lol.. so just because its related don't mean squat... m1t is related to test... and the new dimethbold (double methyl dbol) is related to dbol and bold.. so... ya.. none of them are really alike.
This.
Years ago people made up a term called delayed gyno because of SD. It's just that their prolactin was high, but no gyno until estrogen rose sometime after the cycle. I don't know why people took so long to put the puzzle pieces together, but it's from prolactin. In the presence of estrogen and IGF1 you'll be feeding the titty gland and gyno will spring up.
It gets my prolactin up even at 10mg/day. Just started running it from Biomed but might have to stop or just keep a close eye. It works like a hot damn but is so toxic and gyno inducing.
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My buddy and I always threaten to run -nippledrol- as we call it to kik start a cycle. He sais his is delayed mine will b immediate puff tits.. sucks dick I have a lot and works so damn good
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You sure about that?I think they are 2 diffrent compounds.
I know superdrols chemical name is Methasteron but I didn;t think it was the same compound as Methyl-masteron. I believe they are diffrent. I think superdrol is stronger then Methylated-Masteron.
I could be wrong.. i'll check on it.
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there are many names, methasterone, methyldrostanolone, whatever. its methylated masteron.
it IS way stronger than masteron, yes. but its methylated masteron and nothing else.
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Yes it will blow u the fuck up and make u strong quick. I can take 20 mgs of it and an hour later be noticeably stronger on first dose. for me any way.
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2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one - (Superdrol) 10 mg
l-carnitine l-tartrate - 500 mg
What ever this is is whats in it
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Yes it will blow u the fuck up and make u strong quick. I can take 20 mgs of it and an hour later be noticeably stronger on first dose. for me any way.
same can be said for 500mcg of methyltrienolone. lol
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When anybody runs products as strong as superdrol,M1T,anadrol they should be prepared and have so,me on cycle Anchileries to stop potential gyno.I and many others have used the over the counter sold superdrol both the firts batch by designer supplements and anabolic Xtreme and none of us got any kind of real gyno. maybe a little bit puffy inthe nipples but it wasn't gyno.
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Yea puffy as hell bout the end of the 4th week-as long as ive ran it- but went away during pct for me others came delayed. I guess blood work would show whats out of wack thanks for replies im still deciding if I will run low dose pre workouts prami for the sides
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This.
Years ago people made up a term called delayed gyno because of SD. It's just that their prolactin was high, but no gyno until estrogen rose sometime after the cycle. I don't know why people took so long to put the puzzle pieces together, but it's from prolactin. In the presence of estrogen and IGF1 you'll be feeding the titty gland and gyno will spring up.
It gets my prolactin up even at 10mg/day. Just started running it from Biomed but might have to stop or just keep a close eye. It works like a hot damn but is so toxic and gyno inducing.
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On a serious note, been so lolng since I even got my hands on some sdrol... best steroid ever :-/ Still haven't tried methyltrienolone.
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On a serious note, been so lolng since I even got my hands on some sdrol... best steroid ever :-/ Still haven't tried methyltrienolone.
theyre quite comparable... sdrol makes you big and striated, methyltrienolone makes you ripped and striated... with lots of carbs its a similar look though. methyltrienolone also seems to thin your skin and pop veins somehow...
ive only ever used methyltrienolone as injectable though (up to 3mg a day), superdrol i used the oral at 30-40mg...
funny thing is my liver values were BARELY elevated after a 3 week methyltren run at 3mg... like 80 AST 70 ALT...
im gonna try and brew an injectable sdrol soon... would love to see that stuff work without liver problems.
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theyre quite comparable... sdrol makes you big and striated, methyltrienolone makes you ripped and striated... with lots of carbs its a similar look though. methyltrienolone also seems to thin your skin and pop veins somehow...
ive only ever used methyltrienolone as injectable though (up to 3mg a day), superdrol i used the oral at 30-40mg...
funny thing is my liver values were BARELY elevated after a 3 week methyltren run at 3mg... like 80 AST 70 ALT...
im gonna try and brew an injectable sdrol soon... would love to see that stuff work without liver problems.
i seem to hold a lil water with mt.. get harder though and larger... that's with oral. I've only gone up to 3mg/day for a few days at a time, usual high dose is 2mg, but i have guys running just 500mcg and they get bigger and harder as well, with little spider veins everwhere... with biiiiiig increases in strength. and I'd say 80% of them are running MT ALONE! with no test or anything else (mostly guys afraid of needles but still want to see results).
crystal clear piss and good sleep at night.. only thing I've gotten is (i think) and ulcer. lol.. but that could be from running dbol daily for many many months... or orals in general, since all my orals are mixed in Ora-Sweet or PEG300.... or course it could be from the Levitra too, i think that shit was mixed with isopropal alcohol. (from melanotanpeptide.com ... now defunct, i believe).
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theyre quite comparable... sdrol makes you big and striated, methyltrienolone makes you ripped and striated... with lots of carbs its a similar look though. methyltrienolone also seems to thin your skin and pop veins somehow...
ive only ever used methyltrienolone as injectable though (up to 3mg a day), superdrol i used the oral at 30-40mg...
funny thing is my liver values were BARELY elevated after a 3 week methyltren run at 3mg... like 80 AST 70 ALT...
im gonna try and brew an injectable sdrol soon... would love to see that stuff work without liver problems.
If u do this ide b interested in how it goes ive been saying that for years. U could run it longer.and get bigger ive always ran it 4 weeks and gained atleast 10 lbs every time even solo. Good luck
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Seems like if a Injectable superdrol was possible to make some UGL would of made a injectable version of superdrol by now. I know Matt cahill brought Superdrol to the open market back in 2003-2004 time. At first matt cahill would just sell it on the open boards just the raw powder and give people instructions on how rto make it into a liquid oral by using olive oil, Later Matt started Designer supplements and his 2 first products were Superdrol and rebound XT. I think if anybody could make superdrol in a injectable form it would be matt cahill but he never did. Matt had other products you could inject like his sledge-Test and a few others but for some reason he never made superdrol into a injectable. Same goes with M1T ,I have never seen injectable M1T. I think it is because these compounds as orals are 100% bioavailable. No reason to make them into injectables if they are already 100% bioavaiable
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Itd just be nice to have the same results with out taking a hit on your liver.
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Seems like if a Injectable superdrol was possible to make some UGL would of made a injectable version of superdrol by now. I know Matt cahill brought Superdrol to the open market back in 2003-2004 time. At first matt cahill would just sell it on the open boards just the raw powder and give people instructions on how rto make it into a liquid oral by using olive oil, Later Matt started Designer supplements and his 2 first products were Superdrol and rebound XT. I think if anybody could make superdrol in a injectable form it would be matt cahill but he never did. Matt had other products you could inject like his sledge-Test and a few others but for some reason he never made superdrol into a injectable. Same goes with M1T ,I have never seen injectable M1T. I think it is because these compounds as orals are 100% bioavailable. No reason to make them into injectables if they are already 100% bioavaiable
no reason? they skip first pass and are therefore MUCH less hard on your liver / intestines...
if you take them orally everything hits the liver at once, then goes into the bloodstream and through the liver again etc.
if you inject them you dont have that huge initial hit, which i believe is the most damaging part... you just have the stuff circulating slowly through your bloodstream for a couple hours, which seems to be way less damaging.
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Methyls even if injected go through the liver. It's a myth that it doesn't hurt the liver. Bro science. So people injecting winstrol and dbol are stupid in thinking their liver is not being damaged. It would be the same ordeal with m1t or sdrol in injectable form and same with methyltrienolone.
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Well then fuck it I'm just gonna pop 10 mgs pre workouts and take prami for the prolactin control
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Methyls even if injected go through the liver. It's a myth that it doesn't hurt the liver. Bro science. So people injecting winstrol and dbol are stupid in thinking their liver is not being damaged. It would be the same ordeal with m1t or sdrol in injectable form and same with methyltrienolone.
read my above post...
how come ive had AST readings at 80 and ALT readings at 69 after 3 weeks on methyltrienolone at 3mg a day then?
there are clinical studies on people getting complete liver failure and jaundice on just 1mg orally after 2 weeks.
what counts is the initial sudden hit of the orals all at once smashing your liver which you get from taking them orally.
you dont get that from injecting them. this is what truly damages the liver.
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Seems like if a Injectable superdrol was possible to make some UGL would of made a injectable version of superdrol by now. I know Matt cahill brought Superdrol to the open market back in 2003-2004 time. At first matt cahill would just sell it on the open boards just the raw powder and give people instructions on how rto make it into a liquid oral by using olive oil, Later Matt started Designer supplements and his 2 first products were Superdrol and rebound XT. I think if anybody could make superdrol in a injectable form it would be matt cahill but he never did. Matt had other products you could inject like his sledge-Test and a few others but for some reason he never made superdrol into a injectable. Same goes with M1T ,I have never seen injectable M1T. I think it is because these compounds as orals are 100% bioavailable. No reason to make them into injectables if they are already 100% bioavaiable
in the eu area you can buy sdrol injectable and oral liquids version from ulabs.
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Just popped 10 mgs sdrol hope my liver doesnt explode headed to do chest with a long time workout partner. Gym got new dbs up to 140s so gonna see how many times I can incline them with sdrol in me working. Pray for the liver nipples and rotaters.
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in the eu area you can buy sdrol injectable and oral liquids version from ulabs.
I wonder the liquids if they would pass to canada if they label it something else. Would be interested. I have yet to find sdrol widely available on the net these days.
I got some dimethylbold on the way which ill try, but i know sdrol treats me well. I also wish to try methyltrienolone finally but no locals have it.....
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you can make injectable anything.. it's just a matter of whether or not it would sell and if it'd be worthwhile to the supplier. if the 'juice is worth the squeeze'.
of course there's always the issue of getting an adequate mg/ml of the injectable and what kind of solvent would be needed and how painfull it would be.
I'd venture to guess that injectable superdrol would be not much different from masterone prop or masteron acetate... I could be wrong though, as I've never done inj sdrol. methyltrienolone is a good bit different from injectable tren ace/enan, so it's possible oral superdrol and masteron ace would be different as well.
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ESF at which concentration do you think methyltrienolone or sdrol is stable? i'd guess sdrol is similar to anadrol so it might be hard to get that into solution, i'll try with the standard 2/20 ratio and add some guaiacol (my newly acquired secret weapon, lol)...
ive had methyltrienlone vials with 2mg/ml, but i think you should be able to get that stuff stable at 10 mg/ml or something, what do you think? u ever made methyltren in high concentration?
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ESF at which concentration do you think methyltrienolone or sdrol is stable? i'd guess sdrol is similar to anadrol so it might be hard to get that into solution, i'll try with the standard 2/20 ratio and add some guaiacol (my newly acquired secret weapon, lol)...
ive had methyltrienlone vials with 2mg/ml, but i think you should be able to get that stuff stable at 10 mg/ml or something, what do you think? u ever made methyltren in high concentration?
I have no market for superdrol so I've never really bothered with it aside from 'ready made' stuff.
I have oral anadrol at 50mg/ml that doesn't crash (stays suspended very well at 50mg/ml), so I'd assume I could do 40-50mg/ml injectable without much problem.
superdrol I'd assume would be no worse than var, which with proper solvent can hold 20mg/ml, or winstrol at 25mg/ml. with micronizer and certain solvent's I'm aware you can get 100mg/ml, but that's more work than I care to do.
the highest dose I've made MT at (for ingestion, after dilution) is 2mg/ml, but in general I do 1mg/ml as a final product (well, MY final product, retail is always 500mcg/ml) with peg300 alone.
I don't see a problem making mt at 2mg/ml in injectable.. even 4mg/ml. that way you'd be doing 1/4ml shots each day to get 500mcg.... in fact, I'm very confident you could do 8mg/ml with the common 2/20 ba/bb ratio in GSO without Gui or EO.
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I have no market for superdrol so I've never really bothered with it aside from 'ready made' stuff.
I have oral anadrol at 50mg/ml that doesn't crash (stays suspended very well at 50mg/ml), so I'd assume I could do 40-50mg/ml injectable without much problem.
superdrol I'd assume would be no worse than var, which with proper solvent can hold 20mg/ml, or winstrol at 25mg/ml. with micronizer and certain solvent's I'm aware you can get 100mg/ml, but that's more work than I care to do.
the highest dose I've made MT at (for ingestion, after dilution) is 2mg/ml, but in general I do 1mg/ml as a final product (well, MY final product, retail is always 500mcg/ml) with peg300 alone.
I don't see a problem making mt at 2mg/ml in injectable.. even 4mg/ml. that way you'd be doing 1/4ml shots each day to get 500mcg.... in fact, I'm very confident you could do 8mg/ml with the common 2/20 ba/bb ratio in GSO without Gui or EO.
talking about injectable solutions of course...
i only use the stuff myself so i dont know whats the point in oral solutions, if i use raws orally i just measure out the mgs in powder form every morning and take the stuff like that (or put it into a capsule or whatever)...
ive actually gotten so used to it that i can eyeball my oral doses at like a 20% margin of error without even using the scale, lol.
im looking at high dosing the stuff in injectable form (both methyltrienolone and sdrol) so i thought about 5mg/ml for methyltren and 50mg/ml for sdrol at least, so i can get my desired dose with a 1ml slin pin
... my last run with mtren was 3mg pre workout 5 days a week for a good 3 weeks and my liver took it exceptionally well, values were elevated but not even close to concerning ranges.
guess im gonna have to try.
havent seen many people homebrewing methyltren and for superdrol it looks like im the first one to do it...
i guess im also the first one to homebrew pure DHT... man that shit was annoying to get into solution, especially because i thought i could make it hold at 200mg/ml initially. lol. had to dilute and dilute, added BB and BA like crazy (that was before i discovered guaiacol) and ended up with a sludgy 70mg/ml that takes on a gel-like consistency within 20 minutes after heating... had to nuke the stuff in the microwave every time before injecting to get it into liquid form and even then there were some floating crystals. microwaving did not seem to kill its potency though.
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havent seen many people homebrewing methyltren and for superdrol it looks like im the first one to do it...
Seen a few chefs carrying it. I only did oral version but thinking of picking some up myself after reading this thread.
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no reason? they skip first pass and are therefore MUCH less hard on your liver / intestines...
if you take them orally everything hits the liver at once, then goes into the bloodstream and through the liver again etc.
if you inject them you dont have that huge initial hit, which i believe is the most damaging part... you just have the stuff circulating slowly through your bloodstream for a couple hours, which seems to be way less damaging.
I am all for injectable suoerdrol or M1T but no UGL has ever attempted to do this and their has to be some reason none of them have tried to make a injectable out of superdrol or M1T. I am 100% in favor of a injectbale superdrol or M1T. I gaurantee somebody in this world has tried to make a i njectable superdrol or M1t but for some reason it just is not as easy as one might think it would be. ESFitness why do you think it is so hard to make a injectable superdrol or M1T? I think it has to have something to do with the fact they are 100% bioavailable already. Of course I could be wrong but somebody should know the answer as why it is impossible. I have never seen a injectable superdrol or M1T. Matt cahill brought superdrol to the market and definately knows how to make injectables yet he decided to leave them in capsules. I think if anybody really can make superdrol or M1T into a injectable form they would probably just let very few get their hands on it.
I know HM Gear made 1-Testosterone into a injectable they used MCT oil.
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sooo.
i just ummm found some injectable superdrol and methyltrienolone somewhere near myself lol
the superdrol is about 50mg/ml
70ml safflower oil, 20ml BB, 2ml BA, 8ml Guaiacol ... so its 105ml with 5g sdrol in it. (about 47mg/ml)
its been sitting there for 2 hours and looks stable, we'll see if it crashes in the next days.
the injectable methyltrienolone is 8.5mg/ml ... seems to be stable aswell, but had to heat up the mixture pretty long (like with the superdrol). 75ml safflower oil, 20ml BB, 2ml BA, 3ml Gua.
im still on orals right now though so i'll run the superdrol in about 5 weeks after giving my liver a break.
i hope the pip wont be too bad, but we'll see. i plan on using 50mg pre workout (ran the oral at 30mg before so i'm excited how this compares)
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Damn 50 mgs pre workout lol my reps would almost double with normal weights only ever could take 40 mg orally for a few days then back on down.
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injectable dosage does not equal oral dosage though... i guess the injectable is released slower and doesnt give such a "peak" as an oral dosage... the immediate impact on workout performance wont be as profound i assume...
i mean people report 500mcg-1mg methyltrienolone orally is the shiznit, but you can easily run 2-3mg of the injectable and its not THAT crazy. i mean it definitely is crazy, workouts are mind blowing, but i assume if you could take the same amount in oral form (which would probably kill you within 3-4 weeks, lol) it would be much crazier than injected...
however for muscle building properties im not sure if a higher dosage injected might still be superior, even though the immediate impact on workout performance is not as strong.
thats why ill start with 50mg sdrol injected
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Twisted Iron supplementgs Hyperdrol
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seems to be stable aswell, but had to heat up the mixture pretty long (like with the superdrol).
did it hold?
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did it hold?
holds like a champion.
the superdrol actually has that seductive golden orange tren-ace color with the Gua in it (even though the powder was white) whereas the methyltrienlone is lucent grey-black-ish (even though the powder was yellow).
looks so tempting ;D ;D