Finished my workout

[galeniko]

My bad, but I was right about Var. Tren is basically 5 times stronger than test.

this is a bs list and odesnt translate to real life results.

who established those ratios?who is the source?

lets see.

original source please, with the research and all.

a graph from the internet is no sound base of uhm...anything

[Cleanest Natural]

tren is good

pic was cut at the homo limit 

[galeniko]

I'm serious, your legs are so skinny.  If you shaved them you would look like a girl.

how about your legs,though?

the guy had achiles tendon operation

[Cleanest Natural]

how about your legs,though?

the guy had achiles tendon operation

he is too busy announcing the world the next impending conspiracy so no time to train them

[Uncle Junior]

I thought you said you were natty?

Oh long story Jeff, I have mentioned here before on the Steroid forum section.

Approximately about 3 months ago I made the decision that at the tender age of 35 it was now time for me to become enhanced all be it to a mild degree for the very first time in my life.

I was frustrated that I couldn't make anymore progress naturally and I was getting too many injuries and sick of feeling like shit dieted down the whole time and losing my libido etc.

I have had a total of 6 cortisone shots (3 in each shoulder) in my delts and after MRI and Ultrasound revealed that I have bad case of Bursitis and Impingement in both shoulders (quite similar to Galeniko's shoulder problems) and my specialist told me that a) I could not have anymore Cortisone shots because it could potentially cause nerve damage and that b) he wanted me to do key hole surgery.

I refused the surgery and at the same time I was looking into GH's healing properties as well as fat burning properties so decided to go down that route.

This was probably about the time I registered on this forum as I was looking on steroid sites for info being a total noob.

I subsequently procured a friendly endocrinologist in Harley Street paid by my company medical insurance and discussed both Testosterone and GH therapy.

At the time I was concerned with going on Test because I did not want to deal with PCT and other potential side effects to do with Hepta shutdown etc and decided GH was the safest option.

So I got script for Genotropin and starting slowly as 2IU and built up to 7IU for exactly 45 days.

Other than sleeping a bit better, (although it made me quite lethargic too), some pretty funky dreams and some mild CTS I pretty much did not notice any positive effects although I would say that it made my shoulder problems improve by approximately 65%.

I was injecting IM into the delts.

Also I didn't like the water bloat much and didn't notice any fat burning properties either, in fact if anything it made me fatter because it made me crave more carb's than normal.

Also it made my fasting blood sugar levels go up to 6.2 nmol and I was concerned with developing Diabetes Mellitius especially since I suspect that I am insulin sensitive from my obese days of drinking excessive amounts of alcohol and drinking 6-8 cans of coke a day so I stopped taking the GH to be safe and was not gonna ever shoot insulin.

Many people told me that GH takes 6 months for it to work for fat loss and I just thought why the fuck would I want to spend £800 a month on something for 6 months for fat loss where as I could spend the same money on Vaser Lipo and get instant fat loss results not to mention the fact that with Vaser Lipo the fat cells are removed permanently.

So because of the above reasons I discontinued GH after taking it for 45 days only.

I went to my endocrinologist again and told him that in hindsight I think I made a mistake choosing GH  over Test and told him I wanted to go on Testosterone instead.

He wrote me a script for Nordic Veriromone Test Prop (which I got from Boots and is currently sitting on my desk) and told me to do 100mg EOD + some Arimidex.

However, so far I have been chickening out of taking it.

I am planning on losing about another stone, I am currently around 82 kilos at around 15% BF  right now and I want to get down to about 75 Kilos and be around 10-12% BF before starting the test because I don't want my weight to ever go up over 180lbs.

To complicate matters I met a woman who is very clued up about steroids on account of the fact that she is in the medical profession and she simply refuses to entertain the idea of me doing a cycle and would disown me if I did, although she is probably bluffing me a bit on this one.

The thing is this girl is potential wife material so now its gotten a little bit too tricky for me to simply ignore her pleas.

She tells me I look great the way I am etc and don't be so stupid as to listen to anyone else telling me to do PED's and that I should grow up and not be an idiot etc.

I was probably still go ahead and cycle anyway but still I need to resolve this issue with her beforehand or at least find a solution.

Yours sincerely
Joon

[Tito24]

[galeniko]

I thought you said you were natty?

2014 hgh use+750mg test=natural

[Tito24]

dbol immune

[Simple Simon]

Oh long story Jeff, I have mentioned here before on the Steroid forum section.

Approximately about 3 months ago I made the decision that at the tender age of 35 it was now time for me to become enhanced all be it to a mild degree for the very first time in my life.

I was frustrated that I couldn't make anymore progress naturally and I was getting too many injuries and sick of feeling like shit dieted down the whole time and losing my libido etc.

I have had a total of 6 cortisone shots (3 in each shoulder) in my delts and after MRI and Ultrasound revealed that I have bad case of Bursitis and Impingement in both shoulders (quite similar to Galeniko's shoulder problems) and my specialist told me that a) I could not have anymore Cortisone shots because it could potentially cause nerve damage and that b) he wanted me to do key hole surgery.

I refused the surgery and at the same time I was looking into GH's healing properties as well as fat burning properties so decided to go down that route.

This was probably about the time I registered on this forum as I was looking on steroid sites for info being a total noob.

I subsequently procured a friendly endocrinologist in Harley Street paid by my company medical insurance and discussed both Testosterone and GH therapy.

At the time I was concerned with going on Test because I did not want to deal with PCT and other potential side effects to do with Hepta shutdown etc and decided GH was the safest option.

So I got script for Genotropin and starting slowly as 2IU and built up to 7IU for exactly 45 days.

Other than sleeping a bit better, (although it made me quite lethargic too), some pretty funky dreams and some mild CTS I pretty much did not notice any positive effects although I would say that it made my shoulder problems improve by approximately 65%.

I was injecting IM into the delts.

Also I didn't like the water bloat much and didn't notice any fat burning properties either, in fact if anything it made me fatter because it made me crave more carb's than normal.

Also it made my fasting blood sugar levels go up to 6.2 nmol and I was concerned with developing Diabetes Mellitius especially since I suspect that I am insulin sensitive from my obese days of drinking excessive amounts of alcohol and drinking 6-8 cans of coke a day so I stopped taking the GH to be safe and was not gonna ever shoot insulin.

Many people told me that GH takes 6 months for it to work for fat loss and I just thought why the fuck would I want to spend £800 a month on something for 6 months for fat loss where as I could spend the same money on Vaser Lipo and get instant fat loss results not to mention the fact that with Vaser Lipo the fat cells are removed permanently.

So because of the above reasons I discontinued GH after taking it for 45 days only.

I went to my endocrinologist again and told him that in hindsight I think I made a mistake choosing GH  over Test and told him I wanted to go on Testosterone instead.

He wrote me a script for Nordic Veriromone Test Prop (which I got from Boots and is currently sitting on my desk) and told me to do 100mg EOD + some Arimidex.

However, so far I have been chickening out of taking it.

I am planning on losing about another stone, I am currently around 82 kilos at around 15% BF  right now and I want to get down to about 75 Kilos and be around 10-12% BF before starting the test because I don't want my weight to ever go up over 180lbs.

To complicate matters I met a woman who is very clued up about steroids on account of the fact that she is in the medical profession and she simply refuses to entertain the idea of me doing a cycle and would disown me if I did, although she is probably bluffing me a bit on this one.

The thing is this girl is potential wife material so now its gotten a little bit too tricky for me to simply ignore her pleas.

She tells me I look great the way I am etc and don't be so stupid as to listen to anyone else telling me to do PED's and that I should grow up and not be an idiot etc.

I was probably still go ahead and cycle anyway but still I need to resolve this issue with her beforehand or at least find a solution.

Yours sincerely
Joon

Stopped reading there.

[Cleanest Natural]

someoe flip my pic.. I don't understand why they are sideways

[RUDE BUOY]

someoe flip my pic.. I don't understand why they are sideways

flip your own dam pic cracka 

[Uncle Junior]

I suspected that you had a big nose. Is it a roman nose or a wide fleshy nose with huge nostrils like Wiggs nose ?

Roman nose is ok actually. It still has a refined Caucasian appearance.  Unless  its got that droopy indian thing.

No my nose is nothing to the extent of Wigg's or anything like that but still it's too big, not grossly big, just regular big.

Typical Greek heritage type nose if that makes sense from my fathers genetically inferior side.

[Simple Simon]

someoe flip my pic.. I don't understand why they are sideways

[Cleanest Natural]

flip your own dam pic cracka 

can't/dunno how.. I am not the most computer savvy person

[Cleanest Natural]

good to know your inclination jeff 

[RUDE BUOY]

can't/dunno how.. I am not the most computer savvy person

sorry bro i aint flippen that shit at work my partner will yell out OUTED!!!!

[Uncle Junior]

tell her youre natural while being juiced to the gills.

huge legs btw,i know 1 person who did train bit hsnt been to gym anymore in years, still has pro size legs,its incredible.

ofc fat andn bloofy, but yeah.

legs lse very much volume when dieting.

Yes although this girl is of the intelligent variety so difficult to bullshit.

I hate my legs but thanks.

I need to diet hard and make them come down to 24 inch again because getting into trousers is becoming a problem without having to buy 34 inch trousers and wear a belt so it doesn't fall down from my waist.

[Ace]

this is a bs list and odesnt translate to real life results.

who established those ratios?who is the source?

lets see.

original source please, with the research and all.

a graph from the internet is no sound base of uhm...anything

Found it on google search typing in androgenic anabolic ratings of roids and here's the link it was found on.

http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/anabolicandrogenic?page=1

[Simple Simon]

can't/dunno how.. I am not the most computer savvy person

open Powerpoint, drop the photo on the page,rotate it and then save as picture. 

[Palpatine Q]

No my nose is nothing to the extent of Wigg's or anything like that but still it's too big, not grossly big, just regular big.

Typical Greek heritage type nose if that makes sense from my fathers genetically inferior side.

Oh good...thank god your nose isnt like Wiggs nose.

[Cleanest Natural]

open Powerpoint, drop the photo on the page,rotate it and then save as picture. 

no clue

[nzmusclemonster]

Seriously?

Auschwitz survivor of peace.

[Cleanest Natural]

Auschwitz survivor of peace.

I tried to get down to 6% without drugs and little food .. that was my experiment

[Simple Simon]

Auschwitz survivor of peace.

The aid wagon got through.

[Uncle Junior]

I tried to get down to 6% 10% without drugs and little food .. that was my experiment

Fixed!