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Title: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 22, 2013, 10:24:40 PM
Conspiracy Deniers

http://eyeofwoden.blogspot.com/2013/01/conspiracy-deniers.html (http://eyeofwoden.blogspot.com/2013/01/conspiracy-deniers.html)

Like me, you are aware of what is most commonly referred to as the ‘New World Order’. Like me, you may have tried to rationally educate people about its existence. Like me, you’ve probably been met with passive ridicule. You’ve probably been told “that’s just a conspiracy theory”. You probably mentioned to such people that the likes of Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and George Bush have all publicly referred to the New World Order in speeches. At this point your friendly opponent has probably begun to glaze over, having gone into full denial mode. They’ll cling to any means of ignoring a problem of such scale.

I know why people deny global conspiracies:
1) It’s too uncomfortable to accept that such a powerful negative force controls the Western World.
2) The denier who deems themselves intelligent feels that by accepting what the media tells them are ‘fantasies’ they are abandoning their intellectual high-ground. In short, they deem themselves above such important information – particularly information which they’ve not been privy to. They don’t like being educated by their inferiors.

But the real proof is in our ability to predict the course of world affairs. Those of us who acknowledge the reality of the New World Order and have spent a bit of time researching the ins and outs of the agenda can quite easily see where it’s all going and what contributing events are likely to be necessary to make it happen. If some kind of Global conspiracy didn’t exist, then how come amateurs such as myself have been able to easily predict long ago what is happening now.

I’m no veteran, nor anywhere near as intimate with the subject as some, but here are some of the things that were obvious to me prior to their taking place:

1) Gun control in America. It was clear to me years ago that the American government was desperate to disarm America like they have most of the Western World. It’s a simple fact that tyrants can’t stand a population able to defend itself and, America’s government now being a tyranny, it had to push for gun control at some point.

2) Further wars in the Middle-East and North Africa, such as Libya. After the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan those of us who did some research discovered that the Zionist-controlled West still had to ‘Democratize’ a select few nations – nations who had not yet had a Rothschild-controlled central bank installed to control their currency, tax and prosperity.

3) The ongoing economic crisis. Clearly by design to loot us, distract us and weaken us.

4) The emergence of an EU armed force and the creation of police forces whose members are not indigenous to the country they police. This is to prepare for civil unrest and to ensure that those officers have no personal relationships to the people they’re set to suppress or even fire upon.

I’m not special, I just open my eyes and I see. The above events are an example of the things which were obviously going to happen. If there is no global conspiracy then how could an ordinary person predict such specific things? I have to wonder – do conspiracy deniers think the world gets worse by accident? Do they think taxes increase, wars increase, state interference increases, immigration increases, corruption increases, banker-theft increases, pollution increases, drug-use increases and laws increases all by accident – with no driving force? Or perhaps they think this is all a good thing!
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Post by: quadzilla456 on April 22, 2013, 10:25:37 PM
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Post by: quadzilla456 on April 22, 2013, 10:28:10 PM
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Post by: quadzilla456 on April 22, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
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Post by: quadzilla456 on April 22, 2013, 10:32:36 PM
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Post by: quadzilla456 on April 22, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 23, 2013, 01:06:33 AM
Conspiracy Deniers

http://eyeofwoden.blogspot.com/2013/01/conspiracy-deniers.html (http://eyeofwoden.blogspot.com/2013/01/conspiracy-deniers.html)

Like me, you are aware of what is most commonly referred to as the ‘New World Order’. Like me, you may have tried to rationally educate people about its existence. Like me, you’ve probably been met with passive ridicule. You’ve probably been told “that’s just a conspiracy theory”. You probably mentioned to such people that the likes of Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and George Bush have all publicly referred to the New World Order in speeches. At this point your friendly opponent has probably begun to glaze over, having gone into full denial mode. They’ll cling to any means of ignoring a problem of such scale.

I know why people deny global conspiracies:
1) It’s too uncomfortable to accept that such a powerful negative force controls the Western World.
2) The denier who deems themselves intelligent feels that by accepting what the media tells them are ‘fantasies’ they are abandoning their intellectual high-ground. In short, they deem themselves above such important information – particularly information which they’ve not been privy to. They don’t like being educated by their inferiors.

But the real proof is in our ability to predict the course of world affairs. Those of us who acknowledge the reality of the New World Order and have spent a bit of time researching the ins and outs of the agenda can quite easily see where it’s all going and what contributing events are likely to be necessary to make it happen. If some kind of Global conspiracy didn’t exist, then how come amateurs such as myself have been able to easily predict long ago what is happening now.

I’m no veteran, nor anywhere near as intimate with the subject as some, but here are some of the things that were obvious to me prior to their taking place:

1) Gun control in America. It was clear to me years ago that the American government was desperate to disarm America like they have most of the Western World. It’s a simple fact that tyrants can’t stand a population able to defend itself and, America’s government now being a tyranny, it had to push for gun control at some point.

2) Further wars in the Middle-East and North Africa, such as Libya. After the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan those of us who did some research discovered that the Zionist-controlled West still had to ‘Democratize’ a select few nations – nations who had not yet had a Rothschild-controlled central bank installed to control their currency, tax and prosperity.

3) The ongoing economic crisis. Clearly by design to loot us, distract us and weaken us.

4) The emergence of an EU armed force and the creation of police forces whose members are not indigenous to the country they police. This is to prepare for civil unrest and to ensure that those officers have no personal relationships to the people they’re set to suppress or even fire upon.

I’m not special, I just open my eyes and I see. The above events are an example of the things which were obviously going to happen. If there is no global conspiracy then how could an ordinary person predict such specific things? I have to wonder – do conspiracy deniers think the world gets worse by accident? Do they think taxes increase, wars increase, state interference increases, immigration increases, corruption increases, banker-theft increases, pollution increases, drug-use increases and laws increases all by accident – with no driving force? Or perhaps they think this is all a good thing!

What a load of crap. Only thing you need to know about the conspiracy deniers, is the fact that they are smarter than you, believers. They don't buy that bullshit what you believe completely without any thinking, because you have no brains. For example, where you morons draw the line what must be conspiracy, and what not? What there need to be for conspiracy? Sandy Hook shooting and Boston bombing are claimed to be false flag operations, but where is the motive? How about resent Seattle shooting, will that be false flag, and if not, why not? Fact at the matter is simple. Foil hat morons pick the events which has plenty of media coverage to fool morons like you to believe, that there is somekind of sinister plot behind all what has happen, because you wankers will believe anything. How about the batman shooting? False flag or not, and why not? Titanic, false flag or not, and why not? Force of gravity, false flag or not? Earth is flat, false flag or not?  
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: daddy8ball on April 23, 2013, 01:14:06 AM
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Post by: bebop396 on April 23, 2013, 02:30:32 AM
Yeah...Ok...Everything is a conspiracy, i get it
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 23, 2013, 03:53:56 AM
Another brain-dead thread by the quad. Stay in school, kids. 
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: phreak on April 23, 2013, 05:17:16 AM
If some kind of Global conspiracy didn’t exist, then how come amateurs such as myself have been able to easily predict long ago what is happening now.
Good question. If there is global elite working towards one world government for centuries, yet Joe Numbnut with a 24k4 modem can uncover all their deepest secrets. Hubris much?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 23, 2013, 05:39:20 AM
Good question. If there is global elite working towards one world government for centuries, yet Joe Numbnut with a 24k4 modem can uncover all their deepest secrets. Hubris much?

Why would they be working towards it for centuries? I don't get that, they won't be around to see their spoils. And it's not like it's some conquering blow where they take over immediately, it's supposed to happen over 100's of years? I don't get that.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Twaddle on April 23, 2013, 06:00:43 AM
Conspiracy Deniers

http://eyeofwoden.blogspot.com/2013/01/conspiracy-deniers.html (http://eyeofwoden.blogspot.com/2013/01/conspiracy-deniers.html)

Like me, you are aware of what is most commonly referred to as the ‘New World Order’. Like me, you may have tried to rationally educate people about its existence. Like me, you’ve probably been met with passive ridicule. You’ve probably been told “that’s just a conspiracy theory”. You probably mentioned to such people that the likes of Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and George Bush have all publicly referred to the New World Order in speeches. At this point your friendly opponent has probably begun to glaze over, having gone into full denial mode. They’ll cling to any means of ignoring a problem of such scale.

I know why people deny global conspiracies:
1) It’s too uncomfortable to accept that such a powerful negative force controls the Western World.
2) The denier who deems themselves intelligent feels that by accepting what the media tells them are ‘fantasies’ they are abandoning their intellectual high-ground. In short, they deem themselves above such important information – particularly information which they’ve not been privy to. They don’t like being educated by their inferiors.

But the real proof is in our ability to predict the course of world affairs. Those of us who acknowledge the reality of the New World Order and have spent a bit of time researching the ins and outs of the agenda can quite easily see where it’s all going and what contributing events are likely to be necessary to make it happen. If some kind of Global conspiracy didn’t exist, then how come amateurs such as myself have been able to easily predict long ago what is happening now.

I’m no veteran, nor anywhere near as intimate with the subject as some, but here are some of the things that were obvious to me prior to their taking place:

1) Gun control in America. It was clear to me years ago that the American government was desperate to disarm America like they have most of the Western World. It’s a simple fact that tyrants can’t stand a population able to defend itself and, America’s government now being a tyranny, it had to push for gun control at some point.

2) Further wars in the Middle-East and North Africa, such as Libya. After the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan those of us who did some research discovered that the Zionist-controlled West still had to ‘Democratize’ a select few nations – nations who had not yet had a Rothschild-controlled central bank installed to control their currency, tax and prosperity.

3) The ongoing economic crisis. Clearly by design to loot us, distract us and weaken us.

4) The emergence of an EU armed force and the creation of police forces whose members are not indigenous to the country they police. This is to prepare for civil unrest and to ensure that those officers have no personal relationships to the people they’re set to suppress or even fire upon.

I’m not special, I just open my eyes and I see. The above events are an example of the things which were obviously going to happen. If there is no global conspiracy then how could an ordinary person predict such specific things? I have to wonder – do conspiracy deniers think the world gets worse by accident? Do they think taxes increase, wars increase, state interference increases, immigration increases, corruption increases, banker-theft increases, pollution increases, drug-use increases and laws increases all by accident – with no driving force? Or perhaps they think this is all a good thing!

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Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: phreak on April 23, 2013, 06:20:02 AM
Why would they be working towards it for centuries? I don't get that, they won't be around to see their spoils. And it's not like it's some conquering blow where they take over immediately, it's supposed to happen over 100's of years? I don't get that.
I don't get it either. But maybe that's because we are not nobility. ;)
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Post by: Sophus on April 23, 2013, 06:25:15 AM
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 23, 2013, 06:37:24 AM
so you are trying to say that the rich and powerful run the world.  say it ain't so.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 23, 2013, 08:15:33 AM
so you are trying to say that the rich and powerful run the world.  say it ain't so.

Do you want to know how this jewish conspiracy really works? I am going to reweal one of the most carefully hidden secret in the world, so pay attention..Jewish conspiracy is all about the education, all about the family values and upbringing childrens so they have ability to get good education. That's why they are studying while average Joe is drunk, lying on the floor in his own vomit. That's why they are doing their home work while average Joe is wanking at his computer, watching porn. That's why they are reading for their exams, while average Joe is smoking pot in the bushes. They get their degrees while average Joe drops out from school because of too much drinking, wanking and smoking drugs instead doing their schoolwork. That's why they are able to outsmart average Joe in every fucking way they choose, and that's why average Joe hate jews. Plain and simple truth. 
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 23, 2013, 08:19:47 AM
No one is saying the Jews were awarded stuff for being lazy.  They are smart, work well together, help their own kind, hire their own kind and ensure the strength in their community. If blacks could ever figure this out they would rule America but they are too dumb to do so.

Do you want to know how this jewish conspiracy really works? I am going to reweal one of the most carefully hidden secret in the world, so pay attention..Jewish conspiracy is all about the education, all about the family values and upbringing childrens so they have ability to get good education. That's why they are studying while average Joe is drunk, lying on the floor in his own vomit. That's why they are doing their home work while average Joe is wanking at his computer, watching porn. That's why they are reading for their exams, while average Joe is smoking pot in the bushes. They get their degrees while average Joe drops out from school because of too much drinking, wanking and smoking drugs instead doing their schoolwork. That's why they are able to outsmart average Joe in every fucking way they choose, and that's why average Joe hate jews. Plain and simple truth. 
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 23, 2013, 08:26:24 AM
No one is saying the Jews were awarded stuff for being lazy.  They are smart, work well together, help their own kind, hire their own kind and ensure the strength in their community. If blacks could ever figure this out they would rule America but they are too dumb to do so.


So true..
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Sophus on April 23, 2013, 08:28:21 AM
Conspiracy theorists usually have an extremely low selfconfidence and try to get positive attention and the (to them) unknown feeling of social power by having "secret" "knowledge"

Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on April 23, 2013, 09:39:23 AM
So do some find it difficult to believe that those exist that would seek undue power, or...?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: cswol on April 23, 2013, 09:49:46 AM
whats even worse than being asleep and not awake, every person, faction, and regime these getbiggers support, condone, dickride, and believe whole heartedly in, all work for the NWO, and they refuse to realize they are throwing their life away and turning their heart and souls over to live a technocratic homosexual life.................... ..... Like my friend says, were awake, we know what reality is, we have to just let these lost people lose their ass and die from supporting the nwo and their agenda.
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Post by: cswol on April 23, 2013, 10:01:17 AM
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Post by: jwb on April 23, 2013, 10:15:42 AM
Wouldn't the elite have prevented the masses from having Internet and being about to spread the "truth" about their agenda?
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Post by: Twaddle on April 23, 2013, 10:19:13 AM


You do realize that Alan Watt was a burned out hippie don't you?  Most of his writings were drug induced ramblings.  Furthermore, he was against almost all progression of society.  Nothing but a psychadelic drug induced, scared old man.  He reminds me a lot of Warren Jeffs.  Bat shit crazy.   :D
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Post by: Parker on April 23, 2013, 10:19:44 AM
Do you want to know how this jewish conspiracy really works? I am going to reweal one of the most carefully hidden secret in the world, so pay attention..Jewish conspiracy is all about the education, all about the family values and upbringing childrens so they have ability to get good education. That's why they are studying while average Joe is drunk, lying on the floor in his own vomit. That's why they are doing their home work while average Joe is wanking at his computer, watching porn. That's why they are reading for their exams, while average Joe is smoking pot in the bushes. They get their degrees while average Joe drops out from school because of too much drinking, wanking and smoking drugs instead doing their schoolwork. That's why they are able to outsmart average Joe in every fucking way they choose, and that's why average Joe hate jews. Plain and simple truth. 
Word...
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on April 23, 2013, 10:54:46 AM
Wouldn't the elite have prevented the masses from having Internet and being about to spread the "truth" about their agenda?

...at the expense of forgoing access to nearly all information about said masses, you mean?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on April 23, 2013, 10:57:38 AM
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So do some find it difficult to believe that those exist that would seek undue power, or...?

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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 23, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Wouldn't the elite have prevented the masses from having Internet and being about to spread the "truth" about their agenda?

not when they spend 1/2 their lives now doing brainless activities on facebook and twitter.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on April 23, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
It's much more than just facebook, unfortunately.  We're rapidly heading toward a time when effectively all communication will be internet-based.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 23, 2013, 06:49:32 PM
What a load of crap. Only thing you need to know about the conspiracy deniers, is the fact that they are smarter than you, believers. They don't buy that bullshit what you believe completely without any thinking, because you have no brains. For example, where you morons draw the line what must be conspiracy, and what not? What there need to be for conspiracy? Sandy Hook shooting and Boston bombing are claimed to be false flag operations, but where is the motive? How about resent Seattle shooting, will that be false flag, and if not, why not? Fact at the matter is simple. Foil hat morons pick the events which has plenty of media coverage to fool morons like you to believe, that there is somekind of sinister plot behind all what has happen, because you wankers will believe anything. How about the batman shooting? False flag or not, and why not? Titanic, false flag or not, and why not? Force of gravity, false flag or not? Earth is flat, false flag or not?  
Where's the motive? Wow, have you lived under a rock. Almost immediately after Sandy Hook the government started pushing for gun control. The end goal is a disarmed public. They will slowly but surely push for more gun control as they did in Britain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#Gun_control_legislation_in_the_United_Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#Gun_control_legislation_in_the_United_Kingdom)

1997 Firearms Act
Following the Dunblane massacre, the government passed the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997, banning private possession of handguns almost completely.

The real morons are those that believe everything their media and government tells them. Deniers lack imagination and are probably less creative people. Their world view would be shattered if they had to accept that events do not unfold as they have been told. They think it is more far fetched to believe in conspiracies than the concept of life itself. They are unable to think outside the little boxed worlds they live in.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
 I do NOT trust the USA.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Twaddle on April 23, 2013, 09:21:15 PM
I do NOT trust the USA.

You should probably move then, before they get you.  Why should you have to live in fear?  Their are many other countries much nicer than the US.  I'd like to recommend Mexico for starters.   :D
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 24, 2013, 12:41:19 AM
The ones that really frustrate me are the ones that deny the regular conspiracies are in fact are a conspiracy to discredit conspiracy theorists.  Then once nobody believes in conspiracies any-more, they will be able to perform a conspiracy whenever they like.  It's so obvious, I don't understand how people don't see it.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 24, 2013, 03:48:54 AM
Where's the motive? Wow, have you lived under a rock. Almost immediately after Sandy Hook the government started pushing for gun control. The end goal is a disarmed public. They will slowly but surely push for more gun control as they did in Britain:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#Gun_control_legislation_in_the_United_Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#Gun_control_legislation_in_the_United_Kingdom)

1997 Firearms Act
Following the Dunblane massacre, the government passed the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997, banning private possession of handguns almost completely.

The real morons are those that believe everything their media and government tells them. Deniers lack imagination and are probably less creative people. Their world view would be shattered if they had to accept that events do not unfold as they have been told. They think it is more far fetched to believe in conspiracies than the concept of life itself. They are unable to think outside the little boxed worlds they live in.

You are ridiculous piece of shit. Why do you need to search your evidence from UK and things which has happen 1997? There is several school shootings in USA in every year, and also several other mass murders. How do you stupid girl know what is false flag, and what isn't. You know it just because FOIL HAT MORONS TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK ABOUT THEM. So from 1982 to present day, please tell what incidents has been false flag operations and what not? You can also explain why only some of them are qualified as false flag operations, and why some isn't.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 24, 2013, 04:05:00 AM
The ones that really frustrate me are the ones that deny the regular conspiracies are in fact are a conspiracy to discredit conspiracy theorists.  Then once nobody believes in conspiracies any-more, they will be able to perform a conspiracy whenever they like.  It's so obvious, I don't understand how people don't see it.

That is your problem, you don't have enough intelligence to understand these simple things. For your knowledge, there is one single common thing among all the conspiracy theories, which shows that they are just senseless crap. THERE IS NEVER EVEN A SINGLE CONCRETE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY. Choose any of your favorite conspiracy theories, and show even one concrete evidence, which is based on real world facts. There is not even one who has been able to do that, so how this is possible? It is possible only if all conspiracy theories are bullshit. I dare you, show me just one single concrete evidence that 9/11 was inside job. One evidence which has no other explanation, but that which leads to conspiracy. Just one, do your best. I have been asking this widely around the world, and no one has been able to deliver that single piece of information. How this is possible? Foil hat morons and their bullshit doesn't include any real evidence.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 24, 2013, 04:54:09 AM
That is your problem, you don't have enough intelligence to understand these simple things. For your knowledge, there is one single common thing among all the conspiracy theories, which shows that they are just senseless crap. THERE IS NEVER EVEN A SINGLE CONCRETE EVIDENCE ABOUT THE CONSPIRACY. Choose any of your favorite conspiracy theories, and show even one concrete evidence, which is based on real world facts. There is not even one who has been able to do that, so how this is possible? It is possible only if all conspiracy theories are bullshit. I dare you, show me just one single concrete evidence that 9/11 was inside job. One evidence which has no other explanation, but that which leads to conspiracy. Just one, do your best. I have been asking this widely around the world, and no one has been able to deliver that single piece of information. How this is possible? Foil hat morons and their bullshit doesn't include any real evidence.
I seriously worry about you Ropo, my quote was a joke, as I think the majority of conspiracies theories are bunk.  And to think their is no such thing as a conspiracy theory shows that you are either incredibly naive or actually don't understand what the word conspiracy actually means.  It it's simplest terms a conspiracy is a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.  This has been happening since the beginning of time, and there are countless conspiracies that are now known.  From the failed assassination of Cicero in 63 BC or The Assassination of President Abraham Lincoln to the more recent Project MKULTRA or Watergate.  Historically, there are countless KNOWN conspiracies, this isn't conjecture, it is FACT.  Only a fool would even try and debunk known conspiracies like Watergate were countless Government officials were actually convicted and found guilty of conspiracy.  Conspiracies have been such a common theme throughout history, only a fool would think they don't exist today.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Parker on April 24, 2013, 05:49:36 AM
For every tragedy, there is opportunity to be gained, by someone. So ask yourself, "who benefits more from said tragedy?"
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Heywood on April 24, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
I'm convinced that it's a mental problem.  These people need to feel that some mysterious force is in control of the universe.  And this will be shown in anything that happens. 

I think Jessie Ventura told Howard Stern that those planes going into the WTC were "cartoons", or images, or something like that.



Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 24, 2013, 09:00:00 AM
You are ridiculous piece of shit. Why do you need to search your evidence from UK and things which has happen 1997? There is several school shootings in USA in every year, and also several other mass murders. How do you stupid girl know what is false flag, and what isn't. You know it just because FOIL HAT MORONS TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK ABOUT THEM. So from 1982 to present day, please tell what incidents has been false flag operations and what not? You can also explain why only some of them are qualified as false flag operations, and why some isn't.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data)
Several school shootings - ok. How many people were killed in these mass shootings? 1000? How many people have governments killed with guns? Millions. Many more people die each year from car accidents. Do we ban cars now? How about the 1.3 million babies being aborted every year?

Banning guns will not save many innocent lives in the grand scheme of things. Not enough to justify taking away gun rights. And of course the goal is not to save lives. It is to disarm the public.

The reason I provided UK as evidence is because they were a few years ahead of the USA and also gradually started to implement gun controls. But you are too fucking moronic to understand the implications.

You ask me which do I think were false flags. I am sure there are many but the ones I looked at include the Oklahoma City Bombing, 911, Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing. That is enough for me. Even if they commit 10 more false flags I don't care. Just those four alone should be enough to bring down the entire establishment - if they had a hand in it.

I also think the Breivik murders was a false flag operation.

Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag event that served as a pretext to start the Vietnam war. In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, the former Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that the Aug 4 attack never happened.

Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 24, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
I'm convinced that it's a mental problem.  These people need to feel that some mysterious force is in control of the universe.  And this will be shown in anything that happens. 

I think Jessie Ventura told Howard Stern that those planes going into the WTC were "cartoons", or images, or something like that.

No, it is not some mysterious force. Just evil humans. Humans have been evil since they came into being. Next you're going to tell me humans are incapable of evil acts?? Governments throughout history have been evil.

The cartoons or images comments related to the WTC are just distractions to ridicule the whole 911 truth movement. Though it technically is within the capability of special effects artists to simulate planes flying into the building.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: jprc10 on April 24, 2013, 09:12:12 AM
I always wondered what would be any governments intention to disarm the public? What would they gain from that?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 24, 2013, 09:14:37 AM
I always wondered what would be any governments intention to disarm the public? What would they gain from that?

Total submission
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Griffith on April 24, 2013, 09:20:14 AM
I always wondered what would be any governments intention to disarm the public? What would they gain from that?

To prevent public uprisings against the government.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on April 24, 2013, 09:21:17 AM
When it comes to the types of things in question, nearly every single person has legitimate intentions.  It is only a few people that are bad; and they are very, very bad.  

So we have a situation where those with bad intentions must figure how to make bad things happen in an environment that would otherwise have a strong inclination toward good.

It's been the story of humanity.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 24, 2013, 09:22:30 AM
Name calling(Loon,Crazy, paranoid, idiot) is a COINTELPRO tactic...Name calling by COINTELPRO can be a  conspiracy in itself.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 24, 2013, 09:24:55 AM
I'm convinced that it's a mental problem.  These people need to feel that some mysterious force is in control of the universe.  And this will be shown in anything that happens.  

I think Jessie Ventura told Howard Stern that those planes going into the WTC were "cartoons", or images, or something like that.





Not having the ability to feel empathy(sociopath) is also considered a "mental problem"...And 1 out of every 24 people who walk the earth have this "mental problem"...Many of them making up the Governments of the world and running fortune 500 companies.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: jprc10 on April 24, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
Total submission

Submission to what though? What could a certain person do with a gun against his government? Are these guys implying one day the government will do something that warrants the public defending themselves through guns?
Sorry, the whole thing never made sense to me.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: jprc10 on April 24, 2013, 09:29:31 AM
To prevent public uprisings against the government.


I'm thinking the government has the military and police on their side and would use them if such a situation would arise. Do you really think a group of people with a few guns could actually up rise against their governments?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 24, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
One of the friends of the two Boston Bombers brothers over heard a conversation about bombs by one of the brothers. The friend asked what they were talking about. The one brother said nothing bro, you didn't hear anything. Don't be all paranoid. The brother was using a COINTELPRO tactic to quiet the friend so that he didn't catch on to the conspiracy that the two brothers were planning. And make no mistake, the Bombings were a Conspiracy.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Griffith on April 24, 2013, 09:32:56 AM
I'm thinking the government has the military and police on their side and would use them if such a situation would arise. Do you really think a group of people with a few guns could actually up rise against their governments?

Syria? Libya?

There are many other examples but these are the most recent.

Despite technology, wars are still fought on the ground by infantry. How else does one control a city or take an industrial area?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 24, 2013, 09:35:45 AM
I'm thinking the government has the military and police on their side and would use them if such a situation would arise. Do you really think a group of people with a few guns could actually up rise against their governments?

It's not a few guns...Its millions at the hands of people that when the shit hit the fan, would protect their kids at any cost. What the Government is doing today is bringing in people from Africa and all over to fill spots in the local police force. LA is filled with these types of people. And its spreading. These local police will have no ties with America and will have no problem(guilt) following orders of taking out whoever gets in the way of the Hierarchy's plan...There is no reason whatsoever why any police force in America need men and women from Ghana patrolling the American streets. But it's happening.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Heywood on April 24, 2013, 09:41:09 AM
No, it is not some mysterious force. Just evil humans. Humans have been evil since they came into being. Next you're going to tell me humans are incapable of evil acts?? Governments throughout history have been evil.

The cartoons or images comments related to the WTC are just distractions to ridicule the whole 911 truth movement. Though it technically is within the capability of special effects artists to simulate planes flying into the building.

There are plenty of evil humans, and I think we all know a few of them.  But they don't control the world.  Many cannot control their own lives, much less the world. 


Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: jprc10 on April 24, 2013, 09:41:57 AM
Syria? Libya?

There are many other examples but these are the most recent.

Sure, but I think the situation would be a lot different in a 1st world country like the US or the UK.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Heywood on April 24, 2013, 09:43:07 AM
I will admit that it is conspiratorial to constantly show the younger brother's junior high pictures as if he were some kind of angel, and not a ruthless fucking murderer.

But that is the news networks.  And if you want to say that the media "control" the world, well, they do control our thought processes in the USA ......at least that goes for many of us.



Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Parker on April 24, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
I'm thinking the government has the military and police on their side and would use them if such a situation would arise. Do you really think a group of people with a few guns could actually up rise against their governments?
you are forgetting that military and police have families too. And they may or may not agree with the politicians...will of the people, remember that...
Anarchy will never work here. Everything is done covertly---using the media, using lobbyists, using disasters, using policies, corporations.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 24, 2013, 09:45:56 AM
I'm thinking the government has the military and police on their side and would use them if such a situation would arise. Do you really think a group of people with a few guns could actually up rise against their governments?
Do you think the police and military will shoot their own family members? Some might? Many law enforcement officers and military personnel know the government is corrupt and when push comes to shove will side with the people.

Of course you do have sociopaths and those without family that will turn on the people. It actually takes a small amount of these to kill many people. A genocide can be executed with small numbers if they are committed.

In a gorilla warfare with 100 millions civilian armed with guns against a heavily armed government the government will lose. Unless they commit suicide and nuke us all in the process.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jovo on April 24, 2013, 09:46:53 AM
Not having the ability to feel empathy(sociopath) is also considered a "mental problem"...And 1 out of every 24 people who walk the earth have this "mental problem"...Many of them making up the Governments of the world and running fortune 500 companies.

you gotta understand though, socio/phsycopaths are here because they need to be, through evolution.

They may have certain perks to their personality type, but then again they are never going to be "human" like most of the population .. and they know that.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 24, 2013, 09:49:42 AM
There are plenty of evil humans, and I think we all know a few of them.  But they don't control the world.  Many cannot control their own lives, much less the world. 

Haha ok. They care about you. All those greedy bankers and elites with all that money have a lot more power than you do. They can buy politicians, security, getaways etc. They own the media and dictate what is aired or printed.

But they don't control the world and they can't control their own lives. And they care about you. (note sarcasm)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Heywood on April 24, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Several school shootings - ok. How many people were killed in these mass shootings? 1000? How many people have governments killed with guns? Millions. Many more people die each year from car accidents. Do we ban cars now? How about the 1.3 million babies being aborted every year?


Cars are a necessity, regardless of the deaths that occur.  Go ahead and ban cars and watch what happens.

But if you drive your car with the designated purpose of hitting and killing someone, they won't renew your license anytime soon.

Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Griffith on April 24, 2013, 09:53:48 AM
Sure, but I think the situation would be a lot different in a 1st world country like the US or the UK.

That is debatable but it is better to be safe than sorry, rather than just hope for the best.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Heywood on April 24, 2013, 09:55:49 AM
Haha ok. They care about you. All those greedy bankers and elites with all that money have a lot more power than you do. They can buy politicians, security, getaways etc. They own the media and dictate what is aired or printed.

But they don't control the world and they can't control their own lives. And they care about you. (note sarcasm)

Are you talking about controlling the world or Wall Street?

Yeah bro, some very rich SOB's control Wall Street.  Okay?  There is very little we can do about that with Bernanke as Fed Chairman.  But you can blame Obama for keeping him in there.  And you can blamce the Congress for letting it happen.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: jprc10 on April 24, 2013, 10:26:50 AM
you are forgetting that military and police have families too. And they may or may not agree with the politicians...will of the people, remember that...
Anarchy will never work here. Everything is done covertly---using the media, using lobbyists, using disasters, using policies, corporations.

Do you think the police and military will shoot their own family members? Some might? Many law enforcement officers and military personnel know the government is corrupt and when push comes to shove will side with the people.

Of course you do have sociopaths and those without family that will turn on the people. It actually takes a small amount of these to kill many people. A genocide can be executed with small numbers if they are committed.

In a gorilla warfare with 100 millions civilian armed with guns against a heavily armed government the government will lose. Unless they commit suicide and nuke us all in the process.

These are good points, but don't you think the government also foresees the military and/or police turning on them just like you do? In which case what "force" will they be left with to carry out their "plans"? What would be the purpose of gun control then?
I guess we're just going to have to wait and see if all these theories are indeed true. I personally have a hard time believing most of them.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: _bruce_ on April 24, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
If you're living in a "civilized" society today and you're not seeing the onslaught of collectivism than it's basically over. The conspiracy theory hype is a tool to kill off points that are raised by more independent media outlets - made possible on a larger scale by the internet.
There's lots of bullshit flying but at the core people are now more able than ever to peek behind the curtains.
Many people in power are vain and dumb which is the sole reason that we can still exchange a lot of information over the internet... one side sees great chances for more control the other uses the very same basis to break free.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 24, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
These are good points, but don't you think the government also foresees the military and/or police turning on them just like you do? In which case what "force" will they be left with to carry out their "plans"? What would be the purpose of gun control then?
I guess we're just going to have to wait and see if all these theories are indeed true. I personally have a hard time believing most of them.

The military won't turn on the Hierarchy if the military is made up of people from other countries. It's a big reason to keep the UN forces off of American soil. Fill up a military full of sociopaths that don't have any Patriotism toward and area and they won't be turning on the leaders. They will follow orders.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 24, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
If so many Americans view their government as the enemy, and they seriously believe this.  Why don't they move to Russia, or Afghanistan or IRAN and go fight the evil American empire from there.  I think the majority of conspiracy whack-jobs are seriously mentally ill.  We all know their are conspiracies, but the recent trend of naming every recent tragedy a conspiracy moments after the event is absurd and only lends credence to the official story.  The problem is, the average American is spoiled beyond belief, if the really want to go live in a repressive regime, maybe they should try living in North Korea or Saudi Arabia.  A week living in a genuine repressive regime will see them begging to get back to the American 'NAZI' Empire.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 25, 2013, 06:30:12 AM
I seriously worry about you Ropo, my quote was a joke, as I think the majority of conspiracies theories are bunk.  And to think their is no such thing as a conspiracy theory shows that you are either incredibly naive or actually don't understand what the word conspiracy actually means.  It it's simplest terms a conspiracy is a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.  This has been happening since the beginning of time, and there are countless conspiracies that are now known.  From the failed assassination of Cicero in 63 BC or The Assassination of President Abraham Lincoln to the more recent Project MKULTRA or Watergate.  Historically, there are countless KNOWN conspiracies, this isn't conjecture, it is FACT.  Only a fool would even try and debunk known conspiracies like Watergate were countless Government officials were actually convicted and found guilty of conspiracy.  Conspiracies have been such a common theme throughout history, only a fool would think they don't exist today.

Instead of going back as far as times of Jesus, please deliver even one real and concrete evidense about the modern day false flag operations. Moon hoax, 9/11, Sandy Hook etc. Should not be any problem for genius like you.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 25, 2013, 07:07:45 AM
Instead of going back as far as times of Jesus, please deliver even one real and concrete evidense about the modern day false flag operations. Moon hoax, 9/11, Sandy Hook etc. Should not be any problem for genius like you.
We were talking about conspiracies, not false flags.  And I am not a big believer in false flags, although the Gulf of Tonkin incident is very suspicious.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 27, 2013, 02:37:26 AM
We were talking about conspiracies, not false flags.  And I am not a big believer in false flags, although the Gulf of Tonkin incident is very suspicious.

And that nitpicking take you exactly where? Does it prove anything but  the fact, that you are unable to answer any questions concerning the evidence. Every one who can read knows that you foil hat morons use terms like false flag and conspiracy randomly without even knowing the true meaning of the terms.   
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 05:05:14 AM
And that nitpicking take you exactly where? Does it prove anything but  the fact, that you are unable to answer any questions concerning the evidence. Every one who can read knows that you foil hat morons use terms like false flag and conspiracy randomly without even knowing the true meaning of the terms.   
Well, their is a difference, I don't really believe there is much evidence for false flags, and I don't really believe in the majority of conspiracies either.  But their is no doubt their are conspiracies, like I said It it's simplest terms a conspiracy is a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful and I am sure that happens a lot.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on April 28, 2013, 09:28:22 PM
Well, their is a difference, I don't really believe there is much evidence for false flags, and I don't really believe in the majority of conspiracies either.  But their is no doubt their are conspiracies, like I said It it's simplest terms a conspiracy is a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful and I am sure that happens a lot.

So, please deliver even one real and concrete evidence about the modern day conspiracies like Moon hoax, 9/11, Sandy Hook etc. Should not be any problem for genius like you. Point is there isn't one. No one has ever seen even one, there is only claims and speculation by idiots. This is common factor among all these theories.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 28, 2013, 09:42:28 PM
So, please deliver even one real and concrete evidence about the modern day conspiracies like Moon hoax, 9/11, Sandy Hook etc. Should not be any problem for genius like you. Point is there isn't one. No one has ever seen even one, there is only claims and speculation by idiots. This is common factor among all these theories.
I don't believe in the moon hoax or sandy Hook and I am hardly about to get into 9/11 with you again.  Like I said, I think the majority of conspiracies are nonsense, I probably will always consider 9/11 suspicious just based on the way the buildings fell and the lack of precedence regarding buildings collapsing due to fire.  I am not saying it is a conspiracy, merely suspicious.  But like I said, I am over talking about 9/11.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on April 29, 2013, 06:28:17 PM
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Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 01, 2013, 01:51:49 AM
I don't believe in the moon hoax or sandy Hook and I am hardly about to get into 9/11 with you again.  Like I said, I think the majority of conspiracies are nonsense, I probably will always consider 9/11 suspicious just based on the way the buildings fell and the lack of precedence regarding buildings collapsing due to fire.  I am not saying it is a conspiracy, merely suspicious.  But like I said, I am over talking about 9/11.

So you are smart enough to understand, that you can't win with the foil hat morons arguments? I can respect that, that shows you are above the average foil hats. What comes to those theories, only those are true, which has some concrete evidence to back up the conspiracy, like watergate.

For example, after 9/11 plenty of houses has collapsed by fire, by itself etc. and none of those has been pointed out to prove something about 9/11. Why? Nothing to do with it. You guys go wrong when you think 9/11 like series on incidents, while it is chain reaction what comes happenings in manhattan. That's why it is suspicious for you. You look at it and see plane hit. You see fire. You see collapse. You see WTC7 going down long after. They are like still pictures in your minds, while they really are chain going forward with the enormous force. Think about it?

If you take out the one piece of puzzle, what happen? No plane hit, just massive fire, what is outcome? 9 times out of ten, no collapse. Just plane hit, no massive fire, what happen? 10 times out of ten, no collapse. How I can say that? Easily. Towers take the hit, and stand for an hour in fire before collapse. No fire, no collapse. Massive fire without the plane hit, and you have all of the fire resistant material at its place, there isn't any spread debris, papers etc. all over the place, so I doubt that it wouldn't collapse. But when you add up these incidents like they happen one after another, outcome is different.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 01, 2013, 01:52:24 AM
Boston Man Confronts Alex Jones Reporter: ‘People Like You Shouldn’t Be Able to Drive a Car Much Less Espouse Your Opinions in Public’

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Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on May 01, 2013, 02:24:01 AM
So you are smart enough to understand, that you can't win with the foil hat morons arguments? I can respect that, that shows you are above the average foil hats. What comes to those theories, only those are true, which has some concrete evidence to back up the conspiracy, like watergate.

For example, after 9/11 plenty of houses has collapsed by fire, by itself etc. and none of those has been pointed out to prove something about 9/11. Why? Nothing to do with it. You guys go wrong when you think 9/11 like series on incidents, while it is chain reaction what comes happenings in manhattan. That's why it is suspicious for you. You look at it and see plane hit. You see fire. You see collapse. You see WTC7 going down long after. They are like still pictures in your minds, while they really are chain going forward with the enormous force. Think about it?

If you take out the one piece of puzzle, what happen? No plane hit, just massive fire, what is outcome? 9 times out of ten, no collapse. Just plane hit, no massive fire, what happen? 10 times out of ten, no collapse. How I can say that? Easily. Towers take the hit, and stand for an hour in fire before collapse. No fire, no collapse. Massive fire without the plane hit, and you have all of the fire resistant material at its place, there isn't any spread debris, papers etc. all over the place, so I doubt that it wouldn't collapse. But when you add up these incidents like they happen one after another, outcome is different.
After investigating the conspiracy issue more thoroughly, I understand more how certain parties could benefit from propagating conspiracy theories.   9/11 will always just be this surreal event for me, as I am sure it is for a lot of people.  Like I said, I think I will always find it extraordinary and somehow suspicious.  I think it may be one of those events that the whole truth can never be known.  But you may be right, and I actually appreciated the way you argued your point, you seem to have investigated it quite a bit.  You probably would have a better conversion rate if you toned down the disparaging remarks, but it is obvious that you get tired of the foil hats (lol)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: 24KT on May 02, 2013, 12:58:57 AM
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Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on May 02, 2013, 01:17:30 AM
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Jesus, If Americans aren't happy having access to the best food, the best entertainment, education, employment, leisure time, freedom, the worlds most powerful military, access to health services and medicine and the best conditions in the entire history of life on earth.  What hope do the rest of us have, let alone the truly oppressed, poverty stricken and helpless.

Why are Americans so god damn spoiled?, they are impossible to please.  It's always gimme, gimme, gimme.  We want more, nothings good enough, always biting the hand that feeds them.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 03, 2013, 07:41:15 AM
Jesus, If Americans aren't happy having access to the best food, the best entertainment, education, employment, leisure time, freedom, the worlds most powerful military, access to health services and medicine and the best conditions in the entire history of life on earth.  What hope do the rest of us have, let alone the truly oppressed, poverty stricken and helpless.

Why are Americans so god damn spoiled?, they are impossible to please.  It's always gimme, gimme, gimme.  We want more, nothings good enough, always biting the hand that feeds them.

So many best's, but you are still dying much younger than europeans, you have bigger infant mortality rate than third world countries in africa, and you make tens of thousands homicides per year. Have you ever considered the fact, that you live in illusion? You get sick eating gene manipulated shit, you have highest rate of mentally disorders, you have 99% of all the doomsday mongers of the world, you have enormous crime rates, low pay, lot on unemployment, your society is going down so fast that no one has ever seen anything so fast, but your illusion is still going strong.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 03, 2013, 07:13:53 PM
So you're acknowledging Watergate to be something that would have otherwise been considered conspiracy, Ropo?  Just want to confirm what you're saying.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 03, 2013, 11:55:34 PM
So you're acknowledging Watergate to be something that would have otherwise been considered conspiracy, Ropo?  Just want to confirm what you're saying.

Otherwise? There wasn't foil hat morons and internet in that time, so there is no way that it could spring out some foil hat theories. That was  conspiracy, which was exposed, investigated etc. by adults, not snot nose teenagers in the internet. That's why it is different case. When you can reduce the idiot factor like that, picture is clear.  Furthermore, there wasn't any involvement by muslims, by natzis, by judes, so there isn't that typical foil hat agenda: natzis and muslims are good, governance  and jews are bad.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 04, 2013, 09:01:15 AM
Otherwise? There wasn't foil hat morons and internet in that time, so there is no way that it could spring out some foil hat theories. That was  conspiracy, which was exposed, investigated etc. by adults, not snot nose teenagers in the internet. That's why it is different case. When you can reduce the idiot factor like that, picture is clear.  Furthermore, there wasn't any involvement by muslims, by natzis, by judes, so there isn't that typical foil hat agenda: natzis and muslims are good, governance  and jews are bad.

If the Watergate break-in itself had been successful, it may be considered "conspiracy" or "tinfoil hat" to think that such vast wrongdoing took place on behalf of the administration.  

Isn't that a fair statement?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 05, 2013, 12:51:24 AM
If the Watergate break-in itself had been successful, it may be considered "conspiracy" or "tinfoil hat" to think that such vast wrongdoing took place on behalf of the administration.  

Isn't that a fair statement?

No it isn't, because the whole media which is base of the foil hat industry is absent. All these complete crazy and childish theories grows in the internet, because all the friendless and mentally sick children's live through it, and shovel this shit in their empty heads. These theories doesn't live outside the internet, because they need interactivity and endless input from morons of the world. Of course there was rumors and speculations about Watergate, like there were about the Titanic, Kennedys and all that shit, but those days it was much more simple than now, when every one has his opinion, no matter how fucking crazy moron he is.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 05, 2013, 08:35:25 AM
No it isn't, because the whole media which is base of the foil hat industry is absent. All these complete crazy and childish theories grows in the internet, because all the friendless and mentally sick children's live through it, and shovel this shit in their empty heads. These theories doesn't live outside the internet, because they need interactivity and endless input from morons of the world. Of course there was rumors and speculations about Watergate, like there were about the Titanic, Kennedys and all that shit, but those days it was much more simple than now, when every one has his opinion, no matter how fucking crazy moron he is.

You're not suggesting that discussion about the Nixon Administration doesn't exist on the internet, are you?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 05, 2013, 08:58:40 PM
You're not suggesting that discussion about the Nixon Administration doesn't exist on the internet, are you?

There is also discussion about Jesus, about Moses, about Judas, about earth being flat, about Titanic, about every fucking thing which is too much to teenagers brains, but do it matter? No, because there is no point what so ever in that utterly bullshit what they write. Are you suggesting that these brainless foil hats has some inside information which wasn't available at that time when all this happen? There is of course some details which has been clarified after the event, but was it really conspiracy? Nixon was a fucking criminal and piece of shit, that's all.

With all this nonsense you have to understand what is the difference between the fact, and the claim. Fact is based on real life and concrete evidences, claim is based on trust. You have to trust that claim is true, because there isn't any facts to prove it. That's why you and the rest of the world can claim anything you want, but true will be revealed only if you have proved facts about the matter. Never seen even one in these discussions among the foil hats. These fuckers doesn't even know, what concrete and real evidence means ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: 24KT on May 06, 2013, 03:05:19 AM
There is also discussion about Jesus, about Moses, about Judas, about earth being flat, about Titanic, about every fucking thing which is too much to teenagers brains, but do it matter? No, because there is no point what so ever in that utterly bullshit what they write. Are you suggesting that these brainless foil hats has some inside information which wasn't available at that time when all this happen? There is of course some details which has been clarified after the event, but was it really conspiracy? Nixon was a fucking criminal and piece of shit, that's all.

With all this nonsense you have to understand what is the difference between the fact, and the claim. Fact is based on real life and concrete evidences, claim is based on trust. You have to trust that claim is true, because there isn't any facts to prove it. That's why you and the rest of the world can claim anything you want, but true will be revealed only if you have proved facts about the matter. Never seen even one in these discussions among the foil hats. These fuckers doesn't even know, what concrete and real evidence means ;D

Couldn't agree more, ...and there was a whole lotta "concrete evidences" that day, ...pulverized evidences,  :D
...and still standing evidences. ...at least still standing for the next 25 mins anyway.

of course there are the morons who prefer to trust the claim that building 7 fell from fire, or that a paper passport could miraculously survive flames powerful enough to pulverize concrete to a fine dust, ...and waft down to the ground, undamaged, and in pristine condition within minutes of the explosions fire.  ::)  ::)

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Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Radical Plato on May 06, 2013, 03:16:40 AM
Couldn't agree more, ...and there was a whole lotta "concrete evidences" that day, ...pulverized evidences,  :D
...and still standing evidences. ...at least still standing for the next 25 mins anyway.

of course there are the morons who prefer to trust the claim that building 7 fell from fire, or that a paper passport could miraculously survive flames powerful enough to pulverize concrete to a fine dust, ...and waft down to the ground, undamaged, and in pristine condition within minutes of the explosions fire.  ::)  ::)

(http://ldrlongdistancerider.com/images/WTC_7_World_Trade_Center_Building_Seven_9-11-01.jpg)
I hope you know what you just did, Ropo is right now preparing to go to war and debate 9/11 conspiracy theories until you either give up or leave getbig.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 06, 2013, 01:34:33 PM
There is also discussion about Jesus, about Moses, about Judas, about earth being flat, about Titanic, about every fucking thing which is too much to teenagers brains, but do it matter? No, because there is no point what so ever in that utterly bullshit what they write. Are you suggesting that these brainless foil hats has some inside information which wasn't available at that time when all this happen? There is of course some details which has been clarified after the event, but was it really conspiracy? Nixon was a fucking criminal and piece of shit, that's all.

With all this nonsense you have to understand what is the difference between the fact, and the claim. Fact is based on real life and concrete evidences, claim is based on trust. You have to trust that claim is true, because there isn't any facts to prove it. That's why you and the rest of the world can claim anything you want, but true will be revealed only if you have proved facts about the matter. Never seen even one in these discussions among the foil hats. These fuckers doesn't even know, what concrete and real evidence means ;D

So you'd say that Nixon was a criminal and a piece of shit, but that conspiracy didn't take place?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 06, 2013, 10:18:30 PM
Couldn't agree more, ...and there was a whole lotta "concrete evidences" that day, ...pulverized evidences,  :D
...and still standing evidences. ...at least still standing for the next 25 mins anyway.

of course there are the morons who prefer to trust the claim that building 7 fell from fire, or that a paper passport could miraculously survive flames powerful enough to pulverize concrete to a fine dust, ...and waft down to the ground, undamaged, and in pristine condition within minutes of the explosions fire.  ::)  ::)

(http://ldrlongdistancerider.com/images/WTC_7_World_Trade_Center_Building_Seven_9-11-01.jpg)

And here we go again with the utterly bullshit? It is difficult to me to understand, that some one is still stupid enough to call those childish claims to "concrete evidence". There isn't anything concrete in that crap, nothing pulverised, there is only dumb teenagers who has been amazed by the things which they are not able to understand with their childish imagination. For example, WTC7. For you and other morons, foil hat imbeciles make a video which shows only five last seconds of it's collapse. Whole process did take hours, and even just the collapse, when you look original video, takes 15 seconds, so what is the point? The claim of the foil hat morons is simple: WTC 7 collapse was so fast, it could not be anything else than controlled demolition by explosives, and to prove it, they show you the clip which has 5 last seconds of the process of hours, which lead in this outcome. Why they do it like this? Because their story doesn't fly without counterfeit the evidence. If you look original video, you have to understand that collapse takes at least 12, not five seconds, so there is nothing miraculous and too fast in it. Furthermore, same video show how front side of the building will collapse far before the backside, which lost all it's support, and drop without anything to slow it's falling.

And now you sit there with your thumb in your ass, and wonder why it collapse? There was not passenger jet, there wasn't even single big bird flying towards the building, so why it went down? This is how foil hats want you to think about the matter. In real world, when WTC 1 went down, it tilted while falling and the debris of it hit the building between it and WTC 7 breaking it's roof and structure, and in WTC 7 smashing in it's facade. There is plenty of photos about this. The facade of the building was broken in up and pushed in more than half way of the thickness of the building, it was on fire from ground to  to the top. There is photos about this also. After taking these hits the building was hours on fire, and finally collapsed. If you look the pictures and original videos, the truth seem to be quite different that the foil hat version of it. Why? Foil hats want you to look these things through the drinking straw, which they point in the direction they want to show you. I want to take that straw away and show you the big picture and whole truth. They tell you that looking through their straw meas that you are "thinking matters with your own brains", but that is bullshit. Only if you wonder why you has to look things through their straw, you are thinking at all.

What comes to different details like identification cards and shit like that, these things happen. WTC towers were empty shells, concrete and steel in their core, so when the plane hits there was debris from the plane flying out from the opposite side of the tower. Can you say for sure, that among of that debris wasn't ass of the terrorist, still in his pants and the identification in the pocket. There was thousands of tonns of papers and documents flying around, pieces of workers and passangers, so will it be complete impossible that some identification is found from the street below? Even after some ordinary plane crash there is passports and driving licenses to be found, so why this should be different? Because foil hats claim that it is, but there really isn't any real reason for that.

WTC 7 after collapse. You see in the picture how there is wall panels of the WTC 1 on the top of the ruins of WTC 7. How they are there? That part of the WTC 7 has been on ground and under the wall panels from the time of the collapse of WTC 1.
(http://drjudywood.com/articles/NCST/NCSTpics/911wtc6craterwestair.jpg)
Tiny little fire in WTC7 (http://i.imgur.com/WBrLh.jpg) but how it is on fire while nothing has even touch it? Well, almost nothing, if we ignore the WTC 1  ;D (http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/ntowerblast1.jpg)World slowest  free fall:
and how foil hat morons want you to see it:
Even the most ignorant piece of shit should see the difference.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: 24KT on May 06, 2013, 11:34:20 PM
In a word... NO


E-kul, the time to warn me is BEFORE hand.   OY!
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 06, 2013, 11:56:34 PM
So you'd say that Nixon was a criminal and a piece of shit, but that conspiracy didn't take place?

Do you really need some one to spell it out for you word by word, letter by letter? My life is too short to do that.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: OzmO on May 07, 2013, 07:11:06 AM
Repo, you will go round  and round with people like this forever.  They have made up their minds and no amount of reasoning or facts can change it.  They are beyond the point of no return.  To admit their mistake would crush their self image at this point.  As many CTs, 911 is a laughable and silly as moonbots, and tragically paranoid people are no different.  They fall prey to the same spin they accuse our government of but instead that spin comes from things like truther or birther sites and people like Alex Jones.

They will just cut and paste, images, memes, you tide clips, like a spam convention, or dodge, deflect or cherry pick.  Most, not all as some have good arguments, are ignorant whack jobs.  The ones that have good arguments usually don't say much about the main stream CT's because they are smart enough to realized what they are based on.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 07, 2013, 10:40:40 AM
Do you really need some one to spell it out for you word by word, letter by letter? My life is too short to do that.

It's a 'yes' or 'no' question, Ropo.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Ropo on May 10, 2013, 12:15:48 AM
It's a 'yes' or 'no' question, Ropo.

No, it isn't so simple. It is a question about the fact, that I don't give a shit. I have no interest at all about the watergate, because for me, it is closed case, ancient history with no interest at all. I know that the most stupidest mental cases of you guys are drawing equals signs between watergate and 9/11, but please, spare me from that nonsense. It is almost too hard as it is, because of the overwhelming awareness about the fact how fucking ignorant fools americans really are. And you guys have a nuclear weapons? I rather give them to apes, because I can trust the reasoning what they are capable ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 10, 2013, 05:25:17 PM
No, it isn't so simple. It is a question about the fact, that I don't give a shit. I have no interest at all about the watergate, because for me, it is closed case, ancient history with no interest at all. I know that the most stupidest mental cases of you guys are drawing equals signs between watergate and 9/11, but please, spare me from that nonsense. It is almost too hard as it is, because of the overwhelming awareness about the fact how fucking ignorant fools americans really are. And you guys have a nuclear weapons? I rather give them to apes, because I can trust the reasoning what they are capable ;D

Conspiracy absolutely took place, Ropo, and it was only found by slight chance.  It is that simple.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: cswol on June 10, 2013, 05:07:47 PM
killuminati, death to the nwo, what is life if you condone the very existence of powers that be and their agenda.............and condone the effects on your very life and existence............... muthafucking heart and soul people...........if your not awake and using your heart and soul to fight the enemy, then what the fuck are you doing.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: avxo on June 21, 2013, 06:24:09 PM
If some kind of Global conspiracy didn’t exist, then how come amateurs such as myself have been able to easily predict long ago what is happening now.

What, specifically did you predict asshole that was so unlikely to happen that made your "prediction" extremely unlikely before it was proven true? Remember, I want SPECIFICS.

And tell something else while you're at it... If there is such a global conspiracy, which is so well-planned and executed and which has pulled the wool over the collective eyes of the entire world then tell me, why would those "negative forces" that "control" the world allow an "amateur" like you spout your nonsense and risk exposing their carefully laid out plans?


I’m no veteran, nor anywhere near as intimate with the subject as some, but here are some of the things that were obvious to me prior to their taking place:

No. You're just an idiot.


1) Gun control in America. It was clear to me years ago that the American government was desperate to disarm America like they have most of the Western World. It’s a simple fact that tyrants can’t stand a population able to defend itself and, America’s government now being a tyranny, it had to push for gun control at some point.

Efforts to implement more and more gun control are hardly a novel prediction, nor did they catch anyone by surprise. It's almost as sure a bet as "politicians lie."


2) Further wars in the Middle-East and North Africa, such as Libya. After the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan those of us who did some research discovered that the Zionist-controlled West still had to ‘Democratize’ a select few nations – nations who had not yet had a Rothschild-controlled central bank installed to control their currency, tax and prosperity.

More stunning predictions, completely unexpected and frightening... ::)


3) The ongoing economic crisis. Clearly by design to loot us, distract us and weaken us.

It was very had to predict that an economic crisis would result when massive deficit spending and shit economic policies were applied... No economics textbook describes such a thing. Why, they say that the more you deficit spend, the better off you are. And you can even see that in your everyday life!


4) The emergence of an EU armed force and the creation of police forces whose members are not indigenous to the country they police. This is to prepare for civil unrest and to ensure that those officers have no personal relationships to the people they’re set to suppress or even fire upon.

Hasn't quite emerged yet, but why is that such a shocking prediction? The tendency in Europe (up until recently) was to push for more and more unification. A common defense force was a very logical step for them to contemplate. A blind man in a coma could have made that prediction.


I’m not special

Oh, you're special. Short bus special!


If there is no global conspiracy then how could an ordinary person predict such specific things?

You predicted nothing asshole. But even if you had "predicted" something then so what? It proves nothing After all, it's possible to win the Powerball jackpot without "predicting" the numbers - merely by guessing them. And there, you have to guess random events. In real life, it's not that difficult to say "Action X is likely to result in Y" and go from there.


I have to wonder

Careful. Don't want to sprain your brain. You must ease into it.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 31, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 08, 2013, 09:54:41 PM
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Post by: _bruce_ on August 26, 2013, 06:46:40 PM
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 17, 2013, 06:01:22 PM
Title: Re: Conspiracy Deniers
Post by: avxo on September 17, 2013, 07:38:58 PM

Good thing that vinegar and spray bottles are still available for purchase! Protect your families! Protect yourselves. Spray vinegar into the air!



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