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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #450 on: April 23, 2009, 05:37:18 PM »
Bob, Bob, Bob, the guy with no shame! Give the intelligent and experienced Getbiggers a break. Some of us have been around the Irongame much longer than you have and have seen a lot of crap happen to bodybuilders by the official IFBB.

Why masquerade that you could have done something if only they had come to you sooner and so on? Why is the Pro League such that it needs a windbag like you to convince the flotsam that all is okay in the IFBB? Surely Manion can run the few contests every year and make sure all is well and that the best people win, etc.? I mean, how hard is it to do that? Every time we hear of a suspension we know that backroom boys have been deciding things that affect the careers of various individuals. That is the way they operate. An insider club that isn't responsible to the bodybuilders. They can't even follow their own constitution.

What about the drug testing, Bob? Clearly that is totally against the spirit of bodybuilding and has tainted the sport no end. When are all contests going to be drug tested? Bob, you are the voice of the IFBB, not the athletes. Oh, you have impressed some people by your efforts but it is clear to many of us that you are an insider in the IFBB and working mainly for them.

About the Milos affair. He did present evidence by way of photos from that controversial Asian contest. I can imagine that various witnesses could have been approached to make sure they don't come forward.

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #451 on: April 23, 2009, 05:57:21 PM »

What rules do you feel are enforced selectively?

drug policy?? - doesn't apply to 100% of IFBB pros
porn - Kai Greene, Denise Masino et al no problem
slander towards IFBB women - Chick can say anything

competing outside IFBB - IFBB decides to enforce this one
accusing a official of corruption - IFBB decided to enforce this one too



Has Milos contacted me for representation BEFORE he was suspended...I would have been more than happy to oblige.

You were more than happy to see Milos be put out to pasture. You are lying *surprise* should you suggest otherwise

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #452 on: April 23, 2009, 06:01:14 PM »


Drug policy:  show me where some guys were tested and others werent.  No one has been tested as of late, so it's fair to all

Porn:  not a part of the rules, part of the code of ethics

Slander:  didn't know an opinion was considered slander...If you can show proof of it, all the power to you

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #453 on: April 23, 2009, 06:06:36 PM »
Bob, Bob, Bob, the guy with no shame! Give the intelligent and experienced Getbiggers a break. Some of us have been around the Irongame much longer than you have and have seen a lot of crap happen to bodybuilders by the official IFBB.

Why masquerade that you could have done something if only they had come to you sooner and so on? Why is the Pro League such that it needs a windbag like you to convince the flotsam that all is okay in the IFBB? Surely Manion can run the few contests every year and make sure all is well and that the best people win, etc.? I mean, how hard is it to do that? Every time we hear of a suspension we know that backroom boys have been deciding things that affect the careers of various individuals. That is the way they operate. An insider club that isn't responsible to the bodybuilders. They can't even follow their own constitution.

What about the drug testing, Bob? Clearly that is totally against the spirit of bodybuilding and has tainted the sport no end. When are all contests going to be drug tested? Bob, you are the voice of the IFBB, not the athletes. Oh, you have impressed some people by your efforts but it is clear to many of us that you are an insider in the IFBB and working mainly for them.

About the Milos affair. He did present evidence by way of photos from that controversial Asian contest. I can imagine that various witnesses could have been approached to make sure they don't come forward.



Was it against the "spirit of bodybuilding" when you were taking steroids to win your "Mr. Canada", Imbasile?  Classic do as I say, not as I did....

All the shows will be drug tested when the athletes decide thats what they want...I'll be more than happy to submit it on their behalf.

PHOTO'S???  Thats the compelling evidence? 

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #454 on: April 23, 2009, 06:10:01 PM »

Was it against the "spirit of bodybuilding" when you were taking steroids to win your "Mr. Canada", Imbasile?  Classic do as I say, not as I did....

All the shows will be drug tested when the athletes decide thats what they want...I'll be more than happy to submit it on their behalf.

PHOTO'S???  Thats the compelling evidence? 

There were no rules against steroids in 1970. However, I still feel it was cheating and against the spirit of bodybuilding. The fact that others were using drugs is beside the point.

When do the athletes decide what is going to happen in this sport? You already have a constitution forbidding drugs. What more do you need? Talk about burying your head in the sand.

Would one photo of me in a lineup at the Mr Canada 1970 be compelling proof that I wasn't the only one in that competition?

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #455 on: April 23, 2009, 06:19:54 PM »
So, you felt is was against the spirit, but decided to use them anyway to win?  Nice...


We do have a rule banning the use of drugs, and the IFBB is free to test anytime they see fit...

So far, we've seen NO pictures of anypne else in the contest, and only yourself listed as the winner....no other placings

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #456 on: April 23, 2009, 06:20:40 PM »
Drug policy:  show me where some guys were tested and others werent.  No one has been tested as of late, so it's fair to all

Actually you are incorrect. Diueretics were tested for at the olympia and arnold, but not other shows. Inconsistent drug testing.

But the simple truth that you hide from is that the rules state that drugs shall not be used.
However the IFBB choses to ignore this rule, while others are enforced.
Comprehend?


Porn:  not a part of the rules, part of the code of ethics

so Kai Greene humping a grapefruit is ok with the IFBB , but Lee priest competing elsewhere isn't?

Slander:  didn't know an opinion was considered slander...If you can show proof of it, all the power to you

the proof is one of your many derogatory statements about womens bodybuilding made in flex
which falls under the "public statements" section of the rules.


btw - you owe milos an apology




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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #457 on: April 23, 2009, 06:28:18 PM »
great posts from vince and karu in this thread
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #458 on: April 23, 2009, 06:29:20 PM »


It states nowhere that all shows will be tested....so where is the inconsistancy?

Of the shows tested, ALL the competitors were tested equally....again, where is the inconsistancy?


The IFBB "RESERVES THE RIGHT", that means they can if they want.....comprehend? As for "selective enforcement"....that's how the law works as well...cop pulls you over for speeding, but lets you off for not wearing a seatbelt.....comprehend?


Kai can hump all the grapefruits he wants....no rule against it. Competing in another organization IS against the rules

I owe Milos nothing...If anything, he owe's ME an apology

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #459 on: April 23, 2009, 06:30:22 PM »
It states nowhere that all shows will be tested....so where is the inconsistancy?

Of the shows tested, ALL the competitors were tested equally....again, where is the inconsistancy?


The IFBB "RESERVES THE RIGHT", that means they can if they want.....comprehend? As for "selective enforcement"....that's how the law works as well...cop pulls you over for speeding, but lets you off for not wearing a seatbelt.....comprehend?


Kai can hump all the grapefruits he wants....no rule against it. Competing in another organization IS against the rules

I owe Milos nothing...If anything, he owe's ME an apology
stop freaking out bob...geez
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #460 on: April 23, 2009, 06:30:42 PM »

I owe Milos nothing...If anything, he owe's ME an apology
LMAO, you arrogant prick.
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #461 on: April 23, 2009, 06:33:33 PM »
LMAO, you arrogant prick.
who deletes my posts hahahhahha
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #462 on: April 23, 2009, 06:34:41 PM »
who deletes my posts hahahhahha
Bob owes you an apology.

In fact he owes you several, he should buy you something for being such a prick to you.

What would make you feel better NW83?
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #463 on: April 23, 2009, 06:38:34 PM »
Bob owes you an apology.

In fact he owes you several, he should buy you something for being such a prick to you.

What would make you feel better NW83?
i want bob to fly me down to florida and let me hang out with him and go to the bodybuilder meeetings and work out w/ him...and get bodybuilding.com to pay off my credit card
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« Reply #464 on: April 23, 2009, 06:40:24 PM »
i want bob to fly me down to florida and let me hang out with him and go to the bodybuilder meeetings and work out w/ him...and get bodybuilding.com to pay off my credit card
They owe it to you, Geno. ;D
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #465 on: April 23, 2009, 06:42:49 PM »
i want bob to fly me down to florida and let me hang out with him and go to the bodybuilder meeetings and work out w/ him...and get bodybuilding.com to pay off my credit card
You really want to hang out with him ??? Is that so you can pwn him in real life? ;D

Sounds reasonable, Bob, get right on this, Gene expects an airline ticket and 5 star hotel accommodations ASAP!!
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #466 on: April 23, 2009, 06:49:32 PM »

So far, we've seen NO pictures of anypne else in the contest, and only yourself listed as the winner....no other placings


Yes, Bob, but if there was a photo posted here on Getbig would that be compelling evidence to decide that issue?

Likewise, if photos show that Milos is correct and the wrong man won that contest would that be compelling evidence? To me it would be enough to investigate what went on there. Photos are mostly what we go on from contests when assessing who should have won, etc.

You really are pathetic to take on the so-called idiots and imbeciles of Getbig. Seems to me they are giving you a hiding!


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« Reply #467 on: April 23, 2009, 06:59:11 PM »
The rule states that drug use is not permitted.
It doesn't state drug use is not permitted in some shows, but not others.

Apparently the IFBB must beleive that drug use is permitted in some shows and not others. hence testing at the olympia and not at the Ironman.

This is called inconsistency.


Furthermore,

A seatbelt violation is considered a hierarchical lesser violation than a moving violation, by law. Ask a real policeman sometime.

The IFBB rulebook has no such hierarchy for its rules. It simply selectively applies which ones suit it best.


illegal drug use wasn't a problem,  but Milos blowing a whistle was.



It states nowhere that all shows will be tested....so where is the inconsistancy?

Of the shows tested, ALL the competitors were tested equally....again, where is the inconsistancy?


The IFBB "RESERVES THE RIGHT", that means they can if they want.....comprehend? As for "selective enforcement"....that's how the law works as well...cop pulls you over for speeding, but lets you off for not wearing a seatbelt.....comprehend?


Kai can hump all the grapefruits he wants....no rule against it. Competing in another organization IS against the rules

I owe Milos nothing...If anything, he owe's ME an apology

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #468 on: April 23, 2009, 07:11:24 PM »
Yes, Bob, but if there was a photo posted here on Getbig would that be compelling evidence to decide that issue?

Likewise, if photos show that Milos is correct and the wrong man won that contest would that be compelling evidence? To me it would be enough to investigate what went on there. Photos are mostly what we go on from contests when assessing who should have won, etc.

You really are pathetic to take on the so-called idiots and imbeciles of Getbig. Seems to me they are giving you a hiding!



You're asking if having more than one guy ion a line-up is visable proof, and comparing it to judging of physiques and opinion as to who is better??


No, Basile....pictures aren't enough to warrent anything.....Milos' OPINION was enough....it wasn't what he witnessed that got him suspended...it was the lack of evidence to support it.

Not too tough to comprehend

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #469 on: April 23, 2009, 07:14:45 PM »
You're asking if having more than one guy ion a line-up is visable proof, and comparing it to judging of physiques and opinion as to who is better??


No, Basile....pictures aren't enough to warrent anything.....Milos' OPINION was enough....it wasn't what he witnessed that got him suspended...it was the lack of evidence to support it.

Not too tough to comprehend
You walk the line.
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« Reply #470 on: April 23, 2009, 07:16:18 PM »
The rule states that drug use is not permitted.
It doesn't state drug use is not permitted in some shows, but not others.

Apparently the IFBB must beleive that drug use is permitted in some shows and not others. hence testing at the olympia and not at the Ironman.

This is called inconsistency.


Furthermore,

A seatbelt violation is considered a hierarchical lesser violation than a moving violation, by law. Ask a real policeman sometime.

The IFBB rulebook has no such hierarchy for its rules. It simply selectively applies which ones suit it best.


illegal drug use wasn't a problem,  but Milos blowing a whistle was.




They dont test in ANY shows...that is called CONSISTANT.

They reserve the right to test, or not to test....as it states in the rules.


As for your observation of the seatbelt rule....yes, it is a lesser violation...you know, like arguing the judging decision is to competing in a rival federation....congratula tions, you just made my point

And giving a ticket for one and not the other, despite BOTH being against the law....is called "selective enforcement"

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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #471 on: April 23, 2009, 08:00:05 PM »

That's the beauty Basile...no one is trying to protect Paul Chua, or cover anything up...but you're too stupid to see that. Why would I care about creating some "smokescreen" for some guy that ran the AFBB, or involved with IFBB amateur?


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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #472 on: April 23, 2009, 08:18:49 PM »
hahha look at the captain crunch jacket :D
I agree Geno, whats going on with that jacket Chick, flamboyant, no?
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Re: The ABBF is suspended by the IFBB : CORRUPTION ?
« Reply #473 on: April 23, 2009, 08:21:54 PM »
It's the Olympia....if there is a time to be flamboyant, that would be it. 

If I were, say, at a funeral uninvited.....I would be dressed much more conservatively

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« Reply #474 on: April 23, 2009, 08:24:50 PM »
It's the Olympia....if there is a time to be flamboyant, that would be it. 

If I were, say, at a funeral uninvited.....I would be dressed much more conservatively
how come youre the only 1 in that pic dressed like that?
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