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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #425 on: October 15, 2015, 04:58:51 PM »
That's it?   ???

I believe so.  Webb is OK in my book, though.  But I can see how it would be viewed as inappropriate or an otherwise strange to say.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #426 on: October 15, 2015, 05:02:57 PM »
I believe so.  Webb is OK in my book, though.  But I can see how it would be viewed as inappropriate or an otherwise strange to say.

I can see how some limp noodled pansy might be offended by a veteran talking about what happens in war, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement.  It certainly isn't him

bragging about grenading a man in war? 

The enemy threw the grenade at Webb.  He responded by killing the enemy.  What the heck was he supposed to do?  Holy smokes. 

240 you are a friggin liar. 

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« Reply #427 on: October 15, 2015, 05:09:23 PM »
I think he may have been smirking or smiling when he said it, which may have caused the reaction.  (I'd have to look at the tape again to be sure)

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« Reply #428 on: October 15, 2015, 05:19:55 PM »
Here's a clip.


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« Reply #429 on: October 15, 2015, 05:22:42 PM »
I wouldn't have done that, but then again I'm not him and I haven't had that experience.

Overall, though, I don't think he should have said it (in that manner) if he's serious about the race.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #430 on: October 15, 2015, 05:32:15 PM »
Here's a clip.



Thanks for posting this.  So not only is he talking about a grenade being thrown at him (not the other way around as 240 claimed), he is talking about how he earned one of his Purple Hearts.  Beast.   :) 


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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #431 on: October 15, 2015, 05:51:24 PM »
Thanks for posting this.  So not only is he talking about a grenade being thrown at him (not the other way around as 240 claimed), he is talking about how he earned one of his Purple Hearts.  Beast.   :) 



Is there really some possibility you'd choose Carson over him, if it was between those two and the election happened now?

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« Reply #432 on: October 15, 2015, 05:53:16 PM »
Is there really some possibility you'd choose Carson over him, if it was between those two and the election happened now?

You mean has my answer changed from the time you asked me this question 24 hours ago?  No.   :)

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« Reply #433 on: October 15, 2015, 05:58:05 PM »
You mean has my answer changed from the time you asked me this question 24 hours ago?  No.   :)

Could you trust Carson to lead people?

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« Reply #434 on: October 15, 2015, 05:59:46 PM »
Could you trust Carson to lead people?

You mean like he led people as the head of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins?  Sure. 

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« Reply #435 on: October 15, 2015, 06:09:02 PM »
You mean like he led people as the head of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins?  Sure. 

Interesting comparison, but can't say it isn't fair. (I don't know)

Have you noticed any lack of conviction on his part?  That would be a problem if we're counting on him to lead.

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« Reply #436 on: October 15, 2015, 06:12:33 PM »
Interesting comparison, but can't say it isn't fair. (I don't know)

Have you noticed any lack of conviction on his part?  That would be a problem if we're counting on him to lead.

Well if you're asking whether you trust someone to lead people, the logical starting point is their leadership experience, if any.  You also have to look at character and personality traits.  All three of those were red flags for President Obama before he was elected. 

Conviction about what?   

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« Reply #437 on: October 15, 2015, 06:18:42 PM »
Well if you're asking whether you trust someone to lead people, the logical starting point is their leadership experience, if any.  You also have to look at character and personality traits.  All three of those were red flags for President Obama before he was elected. 

Conviction about what?   

About his ideas, goals, beliefs.  Will he go forward in an expected and predictable manner with a clear plan?

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« Reply #438 on: October 15, 2015, 06:22:13 PM »
About his ideas, goals, beliefs.  Will he go forward in an expected and predictable manner with a clear plan?

No idea.  We won't know that about any candidate until they are in office and have a chance to execute. 

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« Reply #439 on: October 15, 2015, 06:25:18 PM »
No idea.  We won't know that about any candidate until they are in office and have a chance to execute. 

But that's saying you don't trust him.

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« Reply #440 on: October 15, 2015, 06:28:18 PM »
But that's saying you don't trust him.

No it isn't. 

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« Reply #441 on: October 15, 2015, 06:30:01 PM »
No it isn't. 

You just said you have no idea whether you can trust him to do that.

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« Reply #442 on: October 15, 2015, 06:35:14 PM »
You just said you have no idea whether you can trust him to do that.

I said I have no idea whether he will follow through with:  "his ideas, goals, beliefs.  Will he go forward in an expected and predictable manner with a clear plan?" 

I also said "We won't know that about any candidate until they are in office and have a chance to execute." 

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« Reply #443 on: October 15, 2015, 06:35:43 PM »
Ben Carson once got a gun stuck in his ribs at Popeye's chicken and told the assailant that he should be looking for the guy behind the counter.


That deserves some sort of medal I think.

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« Reply #444 on: October 15, 2015, 06:45:37 PM »
I said I have no idea whether he will follow through with:  "his ideas, goals, beliefs.  Will he go forward in an expected and predictable manner with a clear plan?" 

I also said "We won't know that about any candidate until they are in office and have a chance to execute." 

But it's not from the absence of trust?




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« Reply #445 on: October 15, 2015, 06:46:17 PM »
But it's not from the absence of trust?





No.  It's from the lack of information. 

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« Reply #446 on: October 15, 2015, 06:47:51 PM »
No.  It's from the lack of information. 
Ben Carson once got a gun stuck in his ribs at Popeye's chicken and told the assailant that he should be looking for the guy behind the counter.


That deserves some sort of medal I think.

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« Reply #447 on: October 15, 2015, 06:48:23 PM »
No.  It's from the lack of information. 

Lack of information to say what?

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« Reply #448 on: October 15, 2015, 06:50:12 PM »
Ben Carson once got a gun stuck in his ribs at Popeye's chicken and told the assailant that he should be looking for the guy behind the counter.


That deserves some sort of medal I think.


Chickenhawk award?   :)

Why did you post his twice? 

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #449 on: October 15, 2015, 06:51:21 PM »
Lack of information to say what?

What any candidate will do in office.