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[andreisdaman]

It's hardly a gaffe to say homosexuality is a choice.  It is. 

wow..for the first time I now realize you are trolling.......

[Dos Equis]

but you said nobody is talking about it.

now you see brietbart, beck, fox, national report, huffpo, and even webbs own son, ARE talking about it.

why would you claim something that is so obviously not true?  You said nobody was talking about it - EVERYONE is talking about it.

I hadn't heard anything about it.  Why did you lie and say Webb bragged about throwing a grenade at someone?

Why did you lie say say Beck spent ten minutes talking about Webb "Grenading a man"?

[Dos Equis]

wow..for the first time I now realize you are trolling.......

 

[Dos Equis]

EXCLUSIVE: Democratic National Committeewoman says her party is 'clearing a path' for Hillary because 'the women in charge' want it that way

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3273404/Democratic-National-Committeewoman-says-party-clearing-path-Hillary-women-charge-want-way.html#ixzz3okNEwYRR

[andreisdaman]

ANYONE who says homosexuality is strictly a choice MUST be trolling..its the only explanation for that kind of stupidity...a la Carson

[Dos Equis]

ANYONE who says homosexuality is strictly a choice MUST be trolling..its the only explanation for that kind of stupidity...a la Carson

Or maybe they are just using common sense and the lack of scientific evidence showing it's genetic.  And the fact people choose to engage in that kind of behavior, including those who have become homosexuals and then gave up that lifestyle choice. 

[240 is Back]

You're 100% correct.

He was asked about his biggest political enemy and he used the chance to brag about killing someone in war.

Highly immature behavior, perhaps a sign of mental disease.  I agree with you for once, Dos Equis. 

[Dos Equis]

You're 100% correct.

He was asked about his biggest political enemy and he used the chance to brag about killing someone in war.

Highly immature behavior, perhaps a sign of mental disease.  I agree with you for once, Dos Equis. 

 

"A compulsive liar is someone who lies with ease and finds comfort in it. The person may even continue to lie when presented with the truth in cold, hard facts. Getting a compulsive liar to admit he or she lied can be nearly impossible."

http://addiction.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Compulsive_Lying_Disorder

[andreisdaman]

Or maybe they are just using common sense and the lack of scientific evidence showing it's genetic.  And the fact people choose to engage in that kind of behavior, including those who have become homosexuals and then gave up that lifestyle choice.  

it was a lifestyle choice adopted in prison as a means of survival so as to satisfy a basic primal instinct...as well as to exert power over others....when these men leave prison VERY FEW are truly homosexual.....as for genetic proof...there has been many reseach projects done which have determined that ones biology DOES play a role in sexual orientation.....again..y ou are deliberately trolling....constant statements like the ones you make above have severely hurt your crediblity on here...you have simply got to stop!
I'm trying to save you from yourself...take heed........PLEASE

[andreisdaman]

"A compulsive liar is someone who lies with ease and finds comfort in it. The person may even continue to lie when presented with the truth in cold, hard facts. Getting a compulsive liar to admit he or she lied can be nearly impossible."

http://addiction.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Compulsive_Lying_Disorder

if this above is the case please look in the mirror for proof of such person

[240 is Back]

if this above is the case please look in the mirror for proof of such person

Dos equis has been doing this a lot lately.   see the pattern.

every time a point is made which doesn't make any repub look good, he'll clutter the thread with a dozen little weird points designed to re-route the conversation.

we had groups of repubs upset that 2 repubs have now said benghazi investigation was politically-based, and he goes off on a rant with attacks on the original poster.  Or webb bragging about killing a man was suddenly "nobody cares, and even if everyone cares, who cares..."

it's the kind of silly debate points we saw on getbig in 2008 with "so what, obama is just as bad".   The political discussion has improved greatly here.

[Dos Equis]

it was a lifestyle choice adopted in prison as a means of survival so as to satisfy a basic primal instinct...as well as to exert power over others....when these men leave prison VERY FEW are truly homosexual.....as for genetic proof...there has been many reseach projects done which have determined that ones biology DOES play a role in sexual orientation.....again..y ou are deliberately trolling....constant statements like the ones you make above have severely hurt your crediblity on here...you have simply got to stop!
I'm trying to save you from yourself...take heed........PLEASE

I'm not talking about what happens in prison.  I'm talking about the number of people who live as heterosexuals, even get married and have kids, then choose to become homosexual.  And those who start off heterosexual, become homosexual, then go back to be heterosexual.  No, those folks are not "born gay."  And there is zero proof that homosexuality is genetic.  If that kind of evidence existed, it would be plastered all over the place and be used to support homosexual marriage, etc.

[Dos Equis]

if this above is the case please look in the mirror for proof of such person

Oh you got me.  lol

[Dos Equis]

Dos equis has been doing this a lot lately.   see the pattern.

every time a point is made which doesn't make any repub look good, he'll clutter the thread with a dozen little weird points designed to re-route the conversation.

we had groups of repubs upset that 2 repubs have now said benghazi investigation was politically-based, and he goes off on a rant with attacks on the original poster.  Or webb bragging about killing a man was suddenly "nobody cares, and even if everyone cares, who cares..."

it's the kind of silly debate points we saw on getbig in 2008 with "so what, obama is just as bad".   The political discussion has improved greatly here.

You still here? 

"Getting a compulsive liar to admit he or she lied can be nearly impossible."  Truth.  You need help. 

[Primemuscle]

Glen Beck show did what must have been a ten minute mocking of it.  "Grenading a man" lol... they went on and on.

You should turn off mainstream media and listen to some FOX NEWS radio.  You'll learn a lot.


Also, for your idea that nobody is talking about it -

National review, Fox News, the federalist and Breitbart ALL talked about it, in addition to the leftstream rags like HuffComposte.

Why do you make these completely wrong statements, without even looking it up?   I mean, google "fox news webb grenade" and you see them talking all about it.

You just make shit up, bro.

And Fox news doesn't?

[Primemuscle]

It's hardly a gaffe to say homosexuality is a choice.  It is. 

Homosexuality is not a choice, acting on it is.

[Dos Equis]

Homosexuality is not a choice, acting on it is.

There might be some truth to this.  I think people have certain impulses and temptations.  Whether they act on them is another story. 

[andreisdaman]

I'm not talking about what happens in prison.  I'm talking about the number of people who live as heterosexuals, even get married and have kids, then choose to become homosexual.  And those who start off heterosexual, become homosexual, then go back to be heterosexual.  No, those folks are not "born gay."  And there is zero proof that homosexuality is genetic.  If that kind of evidence existed, it would be plastered all over the place and be used to support homosexual marriage, etc.

Dude, many people who start off as supposedly "heterosexual" were probably gay to begin with and were hiding this or denying said urges.....some can bounce back and forth because their sexuality is "fluid" meaning that they want sex and are sexually attracted to whats available, when available....yes I do agree that some homosexuals made a choice....for instance I've seen and worked with many women who chose lesbianism due to physical and emotional abuse suffered at the hands of men....but my experience working with said population is that this is in the extreme minority...I would say 80% of homosexual men were born that way and KNEW they were homosexual by age 10...another 10% or so had an awakening later on and probably 10% ( but maybe much less) made a true choice to live as a homosexual....

[andreisdaman]

Homosexuality is not a choice, acting on it is.

I disagree....the "choice" has already pretty much been made biologically....acting on instinct means chosing to have sex...NOT to be a homosexual.....

Thats like saying Heterosexuals have made a "choice" to be heterosexual when they have sex.....no..they are acting on instinct

[Dos Equis]

Dude, many people who start off as supposedly "heterosexual" were probably gay to begin with and were hiding this or denying said urges.....some can bounce back and forth because their sexuality is "fluid" meaning that they want sex and are sexually attracted to whats available, when available....yes I do agree that some homosexuals made a choice....for instance I've seen and worked with many women who chose lesbianism due to physical and emotional abuse suffered at the hands of men....but my experience working with said population is that this is in the extreme minority...I would say 80% of homosexual men were born that way and KNEW they were homosexual by age 10...another 10% or so had an awakening later on and probably 10% ( but maybe much less) made a true choice to live as a homosexual....

I agree that a lot of those people probably deny urges.  I don't agree those urges means that, from a biological standpoint, those people were born with some kind of homosexual trait imprinted in their DNA. 

I'm glad you acknowledge that it is a choice, at least with some.  I'm not sure how you arrive at your percentages, but they sound pretty speculative. 

Also, if you know that at least for some it's a choice, then it's hardly a gaffe for someone to say homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.   

[Primemuscle]

I disagree....the "choice" has already pretty much been made biologically....acting on instinct means chosing to have sex...NOT to be a homosexual.....

Thats like saying Heterosexuals have made a "choice" to be heterosexual when they have sex.....no..they are acting on instinct

I cannot believe this. We are essentially saying the same thing and yet you disagree. If the "choice" was made for you, biologically speaking, then you did not have a say. Trust me, there are homosexuals who chose to avoid sexual relations with the same gender for various reasons. Not everyone acts on instinct. If that were the case then celibacy would also be instinctual. Furthermore if a heterosexual has gay sex, was that a choice or was it instinctual?

[The True Adonis]

I cannot believe this. We are essentially saying the same thing and yet you disagree. If the "choice" was made for you, biologically speaking, then you did not have a say. Trust me, there are homosexuals who chose to avoid sexual relations with the same gender for various reasons. Not everyone acts on instinct. If that were the case then celibacy would also be instinctual. Furthermore if a heterosexual has gay sex, was that a choice or was it instinctual?

Choosing what you fuck or who you fuck is a choice.  As Gore Vidal says, its like ordering beans one night, rice another night.  Sure you can prefer one over the other or prefer one slightly more than the other, but the truth is, its not black and white-either or.  Sexuality is more of a sliding scale and even then it still can be a choice.

I say, who gives a shit.  Let people screw anyone they want.

[Primemuscle]

Choosing what you fuck or who you fuck is a choice.  As Gore Vidal says, its like ordering beans one night, rice another night.  Sure you can prefer one over the other or prefer one slightly more than the other, but the truth is, its not black and white-either or.  Sexuality is more of a sliding scale and even then it still can be a choice.

I say, who gives a shit.  Let people screw anyone they want.

And with this, I completely agree. Some of the choices people make are still despicable though.

[andreisdaman]

I cannot believe this. We are essentially saying the same thing and yet you disagree. If the "choice" was made for you, biologically speaking, then you did not have a say. Trust me, there are homosexuals who chose to avoid sexual relations with the same gender for various reasons. Not everyone acts on instinct. If that were the case then celibacy would also be instinctual. Furthermore if a heterosexual has gay sex, was that a choice or was it instinctual?

a mea culpa here...yes we do agree...I think.....I may have misinterpreted your response...but I do not agree that Homosexuality in general is a choice...although it can be for a few.....I think its mostly biologically determined...on a grade....biological determination is not the same as "choice" in my opinion.....and to conservatives, "choice" means nurture...that it is a learned behavior

[Dos Equis]

Krauthammer: Biden Is Democrats' 'Insurance Policy' if Hillary's Indicted

Image: Krauthammer: Biden Is Democrats' 'Insurance Policy' if Hillary's Indicted   Joe Biden (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images) 
By Greg Richter   
Monday, 19 Oct 2015

Vice President Joe Biden will end up running for the Democratic presidential nomination because the party needs an "insurance policy" in case current front-runner Hillary Clinton is indicted, conservative pundit Charles Krauthammer says.

"I think the reason he wants to be in there is if lightning strikes," Krauthammer said Monday on Fox News Channel's "Special Report."

"In other words, if she is struck by something else, an act of God, meaning an act of the FBI, some indictment, something just truly destructive from which she can’t recover, uncovered by something out of the campaign, he wants to be there standing as the insurance policy," Krauthammer said.

"Imagine if this happened, she got knocked out for some reason. Is the party really going to nominate a Vermont socialist in his mid-70s?" he said. "That’s inconceivable."

It might be a long shot, Krauthammer said, but if something derails Clinton's nomination he would be "in the position to be the one to whom everybody would turn."

Clinton is set to testify on Thursday before the House Selected Committee on Benghazi. That investigation also is focusing on Clinton's use of a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State and whether classified information was sent over the unsecured system.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/charles-krauthammer-biden-democrats-insurance/2015/10/19/id/697004/#ixzz3p4Fg1tBA