Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee

[andreisdaman]

Who are you for in this election, Andre?

I don't know....but Hillary seems to be the default candidate because she sounds the most reasonable.....Bernie is way out there and so is Cruz and Trump.....I would have probably voted for Jeb if he hadn't flamed out...I voted for his father and his brother...I have trust issues with Hillary like everyone else but I DO TRUST her experience and judgment in foreign matters.......I don't know much about Bernie in that regard.....I would have even voted for Trump because I am quite familiar with him here in New York...but it is very apparent to me that he knows absolutely nothing about the world

Hillary's email problems are a real turn-off for me and I wonder if she will be indicted?

Bernie's socialist message is appealing however.....especially in terms of healthcare, wages, and college.

I guess its Hillary for me so far..unless Jeb makes an unlikely comeback

how about you?

[Las Vegas]

I don't know....but Hillary seems to be the default candidate because she sounds the most reasonable.....Bernie is way out there and so is Cruz and Trump.....I would have probably voted for Jeb if he hadn't flamed out...I voted for his father and his brother...I have trust issues with Hillary like everyone else but I DO TRUST her experience and judgment in foreign matters.......I don't know much about Bernie in that regard.....I would have even voted for Trump because I am quite familiar with him here in New York...but it is very apparent to me that he knows absolutely nothing about the world

Hillary's email problems are a real turn-off for me and I wonder if she will be indicted?

Bernie's socialist message is appealing however.....especially in terms of healthcare, wages, and college.

I guess its Hillary for me so far..unless Jeb makes an unlikely comeback

Hillary or Jeb.  I'll say, that's a first for me.  But I'd bet there are a lot of people with that same idea.  Easy customers, I suppose.

how about you?

With Trump not detailing anything, I'm left with no other option but Sanders. 

Sanders knows we need trade agreements that will protect us and he also knows we need to audit the Fed.  That alone sets him apart from everyone else running with the possible exception of Trump.

Sanders also appears to have a tendency to want to tell the truth, which again sets him apart.

And it's funny, but all the things people complain about within the system (and it's been happening in high gear) are exactly what Bernie is addressing.

[andreisdaman]

Hillary or Jeb.  I'll say, that's a first for me.  But I'd bet there are a lot of people with that same idea.  Easy customers, I suppose.

With Trump not detailing anything, I'm left with no other option but Sanders. 

Sanders knows we need trade agreements that will protect us and he also knows we need to audit the Fed.  That alone sets him apart from everyone else running with the possible exception of Trump.

Sanders also appears to have a tendency to want to tell the truth, which again sets him apart.

And it's funny, but all the things people complain about within the system (and it's been happening in high gear) are exactly what Bernie is addressing.

I agree with you on this....but I can't see the Republicans laying down for Sanders or Clinton if they are elected...they absolutely detest Hillary and Sanders is way left of Obama.....looks like more years of acrimonious government

[Las Vegas]

I agree with you on this....but I can't see the Republicans laying down for Sanders or Clinton if they are elected...they absolutely detest Hillary and Sanders is way left of Obama.....looks like more years of acrimonious government

What things would you say make the dividing line between Hillary and Republicans?

[andreisdaman]

What things would you say make the dividing line between Hillary and Republicans?

They simply despise her....some of it has to do with jealousy....(just like many were jealous of the Kennedys)....it also has to do with the Republicans not being able to get the Clintons in the Lewinsky Scandal or Whitewater

[Dos Equis]

Quinnipiac Poll: Sanders 49, Hillary 45

Image: Quinnipiac Poll: Sanders 49, Hillary 45
Wednesday, 27 Jan 2016

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is leading Hillary Clinton 49 to 45 percent in Iowa, with Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley taking 4 percent, a new Quinnipiac University poll finds.

The poll puts the two frontrunners in a statistical tie, with the poll's margin of error at +/- 4 percent.

The results mirror a January 12 survey, the pollsters said.

However,  there is room for surprises in Iowa. Some 2 percent of likely Democratic voters are undecided and 19 percent of those who name a candidate say they might change their mind.

The poll shows:
The gender gap remains as men back Sanders 63 – 32 percent, while women back Clinton 54 – 40 percent.
Likely Democratic Caucus participants 18 to 44 years old back Sanders over Clinton 78 – 21 percent.
Clinton is ahead 53 – 39 percent among voters 45 to 64 years old and 71 – 21 percent among voters over 65 years old.

“Perhaps more than other contests, the Iowa caucuses are all about turnout. If those young, very liberal Democratic Caucus participants show up Monday and are organized, it will be a good night for Sen. Sanders,” Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll said.  “And if Sanders does win Iowa, that could keep a long-shot nomination scenario alive.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/sanders-tops-hillary-iowa/2016/01/27/id/711230/#ixzz3yT597LpV

[Dos Equis]

Democratic Presidential Candidates Get Chance for 7th Debate

Image: Democratic Presidential Candidates Get Chance for 7th Debate
Tuesday, 26 Jan 2016

A U.S. news channel and a newspaper will host a debate for the Democratic presidential contenders in New Hampshire a few days before the state's primary election, but it remained unclear whether the party will relax its rule banning candidates from non-sanctioned debates.

The news channel MSNBC and the New Hampshire Union Leader will hold the debate on Feb. 4 in New Hampshire, the second state in the nation to vote for parties' presidential nominees following the Iowa caucuses on Monday, the Union Leader said on its website on Tuesday.

But the Democratic National Committee (DNC) raised doubts about whether it would proceed, saying in a statement it had no plans to sanction this debate. It left open the question of whether it would punish any participants by excluding them from the remaining two sanctioned ones.

Spokesmen for Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of state who leads most polls, and Martin O'Malley, a former Maryland governor, said their candidates would be happy to take part, at least in theory.

"Hillary Clinton would be happy to participate in a debate in New Hampshire if the other candidates agree, which would allow the DNC to sanction the debate," Jennifer Palmieri, a Clinton spokeswoman, said in a statement.

A spokesman for U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont did not respond to a request for comment.

Both Sanders and O'Malley have criticized the DNC for organizing a relatively skimpy debate schedule.

The DNC scheduled only six debates for its 2016 candidates, and, contrary to its practice in previous election years, forbade candidates from taking part in debates not sanctioned by the party. There were 25 Democratic primary debates in 2008 and 15 in 2004, both sanctioned and unsanctioned.

DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz has dismissed criticisms from within her party that she organized relatively few debates and scheduled them at times when viewership might be lower than average in order to protect former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's position as the long-standing front-runner for the nomination.

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Sanders has recently been drawing near or even, overtaking Clinton in some opinion polls as the first voting draws near, beginning with caucuses in Iowa on Feb. 1 and the New Hampshire election on Feb. 9.

"We have no plans to sanction any further debates before the upcoming First in the Nation caucuses and primary," Wasserman Schultz said in a statement, "but will reconvene with our campaigns after those two contests to review our schedule."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/democratic-debate-msnbc-new/2016/01/26/id/711142/#ixzz3yT5ReZpH

[The True Adonis]

One thing's for sure, no one is ever going to uncover any dirt on this Bernie Sanders. His superpower is complete honesty, and that's probably kind of scary to his enemies. They know they can never confront him on his character and will always have to settle for disagreeing with him on issues. And, of course, misrepresenting him.

[Las Vegas]

One thing's for sure, no one is ever going to uncover any dirt on this Bernie Sanders. His superpower is complete honesty, and that's probably kind of scary to his enemies. They know they can never confront him on his character and will always have to settle for disagreeing with him on issues. And, of course, misrepresenting him.

Nice thought.  But don't count on it.

[andreisdaman]

Nice thought.  But don't count on it.

I'm still waiting for some guy to come out and say Bernie molested him 35 years ago

[Dos Equis]

'This is a lie': Sanders lashes out at 'negative' attacks, Clinton camp
Published January 28, 2016
FoxNews.com

Bernie Sanders lashed out at Hillary Clinton’s allies – and threw in Donald Trump for good measure – during a heated breakfast session with reporters in Des Moines Thursday, countering an array of allegations from the Clinton camp while claiming he’ll win the Iowa caucuses if turnout is large.

The Democratic presidential candidate, who is running almost even with Clinton in most Iowa polls, got animated when he was asked by a Bloomberg Politics journalist about Clinton camp whispers that out-of-state young people may try to show up to caucus.

Sanders reacted with disbelief, and demanded to know the source of the charge.

“I don't want my integrity and honesty to be impugned,” he said. “This is a lie, an absolute lie. Okay? We will win, or we'll lose -- we do it honestly. I really dislike people suggesting, what? We're going to bring in students from out of state, who are going to perjure themselves by saying they live in Iowa?”

It’s unclear where such a charge originated, though there have been reports about young Sanders supporters organizing online to bring out-of-state volunteers to Iowa – not to caucus, but to knock on doors and help the Sanders cause.

Sanders complained Thursday about the “negative” attacks being leveled against him, and pushed back on Clinton camp claims that his own campaign has turned negative.

“Donald Trump is a pathological liar!” he exclaimed, and claimed he had just stated a fact so it’s not a negative statement.

He also repeated criticism he voiced the night before about Clinton flying to Philadelphia Wednesday for a fundraiser with financial industry figures.

The comments come as the Sanders camp reportedly weighs whether to in fact launch a tough attack ad against Clinton in the closing days of the Iowa caucus race.

The New York Times reported Wednesday that the campaign has two ads ready to go – one, a positive spot; the other, an attack on Clinton’s Wall Street ties.

The Times report already is being used as a fundraising tool by the Clinton campaign, which is accusing Sanders of considering going back on past pledges not to run negative ads.

Hillary for America Iowa State Director Matt Paul, in a statement Thursday, described the potential plan as a “last-minute sneak attack from the Sanders campaign” meant to “plaster the Iowa airwaves in the days before the caucus with negative ads slamming Hillary Clinton.”

Sanders on Thursday continued to assert that the party brass are lined up against him. Asked if the establishment is starting to “tilt” away from him, he mocked the question.

"Tilt? Did you say tilt?" Sanders asked, adding that "of course the establishment is for Secretary Clinton."

Polls show Sanders and Clinton locked in a tight race for Iowa on Monday, while Sanders enjoys a comfortable margin atop most polls in New Hampshire, which votes the following week.

Thursday’s breakfast was hosted by Bloomberg Politics

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/28/this-is-lie-sanders-lashes-out-at-negative-attacks-clinton-camp.html?intcmp=hpbt3

[240 is Back]

I'm still waiting for some guy to come out and say Bernie molested him 35 years ago

Impossible.














Bernie is a democrat, remember?

[andreisdaman]

Impossible.













Bernie is a democrat, remember?

I forgot that homosexual scandals are lately the exclusive domain of the Republicans.......apolog ies

[240 is Back]

I forgot that homosexual scandals are lately the exclusive domain of the Republicans.......apolog ies

I was referring to the whole 'being a diaper sniper' thing.  

[andreisdaman]

I was referring to the whole 'being a diaper sniper' thing.  

 

[Dos Equis]

Amazing that delegates were awarded based on coin flips. 

Sometimes, Iowa Democrats award caucus delegates with a coin flip
Jason Noble, jnoble2@dmreg.com
February 2, 2016

In a handful of Democratic caucus precincts Monday, a delegate was awarded with a coin toss.

It happened in precinct 2-4 in Ames, where supporters of candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton disputed the results after 60 caucus participants apparently disappeared from the proceedings.

As a result of the coin toss, Clinton was awarded an additional delegate, meaning she took five of the precinct’s eight, while Sanders received three.

Similar situations played out at various precincts across the state, but had an extremely small effect on the overall outcome, in which Clinton won 49.9 percent of statewide delegate equivalents, while Sanders won 49.5 percent. The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party's county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results.

The statewide delegate equivalents that determine the outcome on caucus night are derived from the county-level delegates, but are aggregated across the state and weighted in a manner that makes individual county delegate selections at a handful of precincts count for a tiny fraction of the ultimate result.

Here’s what happened in Ames, according to David Schweingruber, an associate professor of sociology at Iowa State University (and Sanders supporter) who participated in the caucus:

A total of 484 eligible caucus attendees were initially recorded at the site. But when each candidate’s preference group was counted, Clinton had 240 supporters, Sanders had 179 and Martin O’Malley had five (causing him to be declared non-viable).

Those figures add up to just 424 participants, leaving 60 apparently missing. When those numbers were plugged into the formula that determines delegate allocations, Clinton received four delegates and Sanders received three — leaving one delegate unassigned.

Unable to account for that numerical discrepancy and the orphan delegate it produced, the Sanders campaign challenged the results and precinct leaders called a Democratic Party hot line set up to advise on such situations.

Party officials recommended they settle the dispute with a coin toss.

A Clinton supporter correctly called “heads” on a quarter flipped in the air, and Clinton received a fifth delegate.

Similar situations were reported elsewhere, including at a precinct in Des Moines, at another precinct in Des Moines, in Newton, in West Branch  and in Davenport. In all five situations, Clinton won the toss.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

[Dos Equis]

Sanders rally chant: 'She's a liar!'
By GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI
02/01/16


DES MOINES, Iowa — The room at Bernie Sanders' rally here turned ice cold when Hillary Clinton's speech took over the televisions here.

The crowd booed loudly at first, then cheered when the sound cut out. The sound soon returned and Clinton was drowned out by further boos when she said "I'm a progressive who gets things done."

It escalated from there: Chants of "She's a liar!" took over the room before the campaign just entirely shut off the stream, cutting away from MSNBC entirely.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/iowa-caucus-2016-live-updates/2016/02/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-liar-218599#ixzz3z23wbwcj

[Dos Equis]

She did look a little crazy during her speech. 

(VIDEO) Hillary's Angry, Death-Stare 'Victory' Speech in Iowa
 BY STEPHEN KRUISER FEBRUARY 1, 2016

(AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

As recently as December, Bernie Sanders was trailing Hillary Clinton by nearly 20 points in Iowa. He now finds himself in a "virtual tie" with Granny Pander after the first contest of this primary that seems like it's been going on since the early days of the republic.

Guess who's not amused?

In what can't really be called a "victory" speech, Mrs. Clinton seemed anything but pleased that her coronation isn't proceeding apace. Eyes flashing and scowling, the once-presumptive Democratic favorite's words didn't really match her demeanor:

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/02/01/video-hillarys-angry-death-stare-victory-speech-in-iowa/

[Dos Equis]

Clinton on $675G Goldman Sachs speech fee: 'That's what they offered'
Published February 04, 2016 
FoxNews.com

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton proved Wednesday to be unabashed about accepting millions of dollars in speaking fees from Wall Street firms amid an increasingly competitive race with self-proclaimed "democratic socialist" Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

At a CNN town hall in Derry, N.H., moderator Anderson Cooper asked the former secretary of state, "Did you have to be paid $675,000?", a reference to her fees for three speeches to Goldman Sachs. Clinton responded, "I don't know. That's what they offered."

Clinton went on to say that she accepted the Goldman money after she left the State Department in 2013, when, as she put it, "I wasn't committed to running" for president. An Associated Press analysis of public disclosure forms and records released by her campaign found that Clinton made $9 million from appearances sponsored by banks, insurance companies, hedge funds, private equity firms and real estate businesses.
Clinton made her comments amid an ongoing battle with Sanders over their respective progressive credentials following Clinton's narrow victory in Monday's Iowa Caucuses.

“I don’t know any progressive who has a super PAC and takes $15 million from Wall Street,” said Sanders, whose campaign has been driven by modest contributions and has risen in the polls on his promise of more equality for the middle class.

For her part, Clinton dismissed criticism that she’s not a true progressive and is part of the political establishment.

“I’m not going to let that bother me. I know where I stand,” said Clinton, who argued that the Sanders campaign tagging her as an establishment candidate because she was endorsed by Planned Parenthood was “inappropriate.”

“I am a progressive who gets things done,” Clinton added, before wondering aloud how Sanders came to be a progressive “gatekeeper.” She also disagreed with several aspects of Sanders’ platform, questioning his call for a "political revolution" and his plan to provide universal health care through expanding Medicare. Clinton has said she wants to improve on ObamaCare, not dismantle it.
Despite their philosophical disagreements, both Democratic candidates were in harmony on wanting to keep Republicans out of the White House.

"These guys play for keeps,” Clinton said, while Sanders reserved most of his GOP-related ire for Donald Trump.

“Everybody in this room doesn’t want a right-wing Republican in the White House,” he said. “I want Trump to win the nomination. And frankly, I think we could win against him.”

Though Sanders is running an insurgent campaign, he cited his time on Capitol Hill to answer questions about whether Congress would approve some of his campaign promises and whether Democrats or Republicans better serve veterans.

“I have a history of working with Republicans when there was common ground,” Sanders said, pointing out that he was a member of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs. However, Sanders acknowledged that he and other members of Congress “should have done better” recognizing and fixing problems with patient care at VA facilities.

Clinton and Sanders agreed on the need to stop the ISIS terror group with the help of a coalition of nations, including Middle Eastern allies. Sanders continued to trumpet his opposition to the war in Iraq, which critics say led to the rise of ISIS. Clinton, who voted to authorize the Iraq War, said Wednesday, “I did make a mistake" in doing so.

Clinton also acknowledged she must do more to appeal to young people -- a voting bloc Sanders won handily in Iowa, saying “I accept the fact that I have work to … convey what I want to do for young people ... They don't have to be for me. I will be for them."

Clinton and Sanders won't clash face-to-face until Thursday's debate at the University of New Hampshire. On Wednesday, each answered about an hour’s worth of questions from voters and moderator Cooper.

Most polls have Sanders holding a substantial lead over Clinton in New Hampshire. The most recent Fox News poll, from late January, shows the Vermont senator with a 22-point cushion.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/04/clinton-on-675g-goldman-sachs-speech-fee-thats-what-offered.html?intcmp=hpbt3

[Las Vegas]

She did look a little crazy during her speech. 

(VIDEO) Hillary's Angry, Death-Stare 'Victory' Speech in Iowa
 BY STEPHEN KRUISER FEBRUARY 1, 2016

(AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

As recently as December, Bernie Sanders was trailing Hillary Clinton by nearly 20 points in Iowa. He now finds himself in a "virtual tie" with Granny Pander after the first contest of this primary that seems like it's been going on since the early days of the republic.

Guess who's not amused?

In what can't really be called a "victory" speech, Mrs. Clinton seemed anything but pleased that her coronation isn't proceeding apace. Eyes flashing and scowling, the once-presumptive Democratic favorite's words didn't really match her demeanor:

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/02/01/video-hillarys-angry-death-stare-victory-speech-in-iowa/

lol

[Dos Equis]

I doubt Hillary's possible indictment will change this.

Bernie Sanders Has a Superdelegate Problem
Hillary Clinton has already amassed an overwhelming lead among Democratic Party elites.
Anthony L. Fisher|
Feb. 2, 2016

Hillary Clinton at last night's Iowa caucuses will put significant wind at his back in his quest to win the Democratic presidential nomination from the long-time presumptive front-runner. But even if Sanders keeps the race close while amassing delegates in upcoming primaries, Clinton's advantage with superdelegates is formidable and much larger than the early lead she held over her competitors in 2008.

Superdelegates are party elites who comprise about 20 percent of the delegates required to secure a nomination, and are free to vote for whomever they wish regardless of primary results. During the bruising Democratic primary eight years ago, Clinton insisted to the bitter end that with the support of superdelegates she had the math on her side to defeat Barack Obama.



The Associated Press noted that in December 2007, Clinton enjoyed the support of 163 superdelegates, ahead of Obama's 63, former Senator John Edwards' 34, and 54 superdelegates pledged to other candidates.

This time around, Clinton has the pledged support of 359 superdelegates, while Sanders has only 8, an advantage of 45 to 1. On rare occasions, superdelegates have changed their minds before the convention, but Bernie's deliberately outsider candidacy makes this a much less likely proposition.

NPR's Domenico Montanaro explains:

The Clintons have a deep history with Democratic Party politics — Bill, of course, being a former president.

Sanders, on the other hand, has never been a registered Democrat and does not have the kind of party roots that the Clintons have. That has made it very difficult for Sanders to break through with the party elite.

Sanders would argue that the elites and the "status quo" are what's wrong with Washington.

It's their party — and they'll pick the nominee they want. But Sanders hopes to overcome the elite with grass-roots energy.

These numbers show just how much of a hole he starts in.

Even though Obama was a first-term senator when he began his presidential run in 2007, he already had the private support of then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and would win the coveted endorsement of "liberal lion" Sen. Ted Kennedy before the 2008 Iowa Caucuses. The upstart candidate had a long way to go to chisel into Clinton's establishment advantage, but he already had amassed some big guns.

It remains to be seen if the democratic socialist senator from Vermont, who takes great pride in being the longest-serving independent in the history of Congress, can get Democratic party bigwigs to believe in his "revolution."

http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/02/bernie-sanders-superdelegate-problem

[Las Vegas]

Bernie is running against The Machine of Destruction.

[240 is Back]

i started a thread on this months ago.  Hilary has already won this nomination.  All of this bernie shit is just a distraction

[Las Vegas]

i started a thread on this months ago.  Hilary has already won this nomination.  All of this bernie shit is just a distraction

It would take an extraordinary chain of events, which probably would have started with an Iowa win -- which didn't happen, of course.

We know Bloomberg (and more, probably) are ready to jump in if Bernie, for any reason, takes the nomination.  The wealthy people are standing by, ready to be scared of him if necessary.                               

[The True Adonis]

i started a thread on this months ago.  Hilary has already won this nomination.  All of this bernie shit is just a distraction

Dumbest statement ever.