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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #750 on: February 22, 2016, 09:34:04 AM »
Delegate Count Shows Sanders Slipping Behind Clinton

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Monday, 22 Feb 2016

The odds of Sen. Bernie Sanders overtaking Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton in delegate support is becoming "increasingly remote," The New York Times reports.

With 2,383 delegates needed to win the Democratic nomination, Clinton now has 502 delegates compared to Sanders's 70.

And The Times says the former secretary of state will likely win big in the 11-state Super

Tuesday primaries on March 1 — particularly among black and Hispanic voters. Those primaries carry a whopping 880 delegates.
"She could effectively end the race in less than two weeks' time on Super Tuesday," David Wasserman, an analyst for The Cook Political Report, told the newspaper.

On Monday, Clinton received an endorsement from Matteo Renzi, the prime minister of Italy, who declared, "In all respect for the great American democracy, I'm rooting for Hillary Clinton."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Bernie-Sanders-Delegate-Count-Slipping-Hillary-Clinton/2016/02/22/id/715497/#ixzz40v36h9VN

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #751 on: February 24, 2016, 10:30:09 AM »
CNN exclusive: Harry Reid endorses Hillary Clinton
By Manu Raju, Senior Political Reporter
Wed February 24, 2016 | Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)—Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid announced Wednesday in an exclusive interview with CNN that he is endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, a sign that Democratic leaders are eager to put the party's contentious primary fight behind them.

The Nevada Democrat issued a plea for his party to consolidate behind Clinton, who has struggled to fend off an insurgent campaign from Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont.

"I think the middle class would be better served by Hillary," Reid said.

"I think that my work with her over the years has been something that I have looked upon with awe. She was the first lady. She started the trend toward looking to do something about health care. She understood the issue well, she was the front on the health care during that administration," he said.

Reid added, "I also think she's the woman to be the first president of the United states that's a female."

Reid's endorsement makes him the highest-ranking Democrat to get behind Clinton, who won last Saturday's Nevada caucuses and is the heavy favorite heading into the next primary in South Carolina. And his comments marked a shift in tone for the Nevada Democrat, who in a CNN interview earlier this month was critical of Clinton's campaign in his state and suggesting that the race could continue until the Democratic convention in July.

On Wednesday, Reid wouldn't repeat that prediction, but admitted it could continue for a while.

"I don't know about that, you know I had some meetings today and I think the race is moving along very quickly so we'll have to see, we'll have to see what happens next month," He said.

Reid also declined to call on Sanders to drop out if he doesn't do well in the upcoming Super Tuesday contests on March 1st, saying Sanders' advisers need to decide the senator's strategy.

Sanders and Reid have had a close relationship over the years. Despite being an independent with tenuous ties to the Democratic Party, Reid agreed to throw the party's weight behind Sanders when he won his first Senate race in 2006. And it was Sanders' decision to caucus with Democrats that helped give Reid the title of "majority leader" for the first time in 2007.

Reid called Sanders Tuesday to deliver the news personally.

"It was a really wonderful call," Reid said, adding that Sanders was "so magnanimous, so kind and courteous."

Reid also said it was a "call of friendship."

Despite serving in the Senate Democratic caucus since 2007, Sanders has yet to win any support from his colleagues; Clinton, meanwhile, has at least 40 Democratic senators who have publicly expressed their backing.

Initially, Senate Democrats largely wrote off Sanders' candidacy. But as Sanders has gained steam, largely on the support of younger and more liberal voters, Senate Democrats have stepped up their attacks, saying Sanders is not ready to be commander in chief, criticizing his democratic socialist views and contending that his domestic agenda has little chance of ever becoming law.

Reid would not criticize Sanders.

Across the Capitol, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has not offered her endorsement, but she is widely expected to eventually back Clinton. Reid sought to maintain his neutrality through his home state's nominating contest, given the prominent role it has played in the overall process.

While Reid helped bring out union and casino workers to the Nevada caucuses that ultimately helped Clinton, he denied that he was tilting the scales in her favor.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/politics/hillary-clinton-harry-reid-endorsement/index.html

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #752 on: February 24, 2016, 10:40:51 AM »
^ good.  Hope it works against her.

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Lol, OK Harry.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #753 on: February 24, 2016, 10:42:52 AM »
Getting Harry Reid's endorsement is probably about as worthwhile as getting W's.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #754 on: February 24, 2016, 02:16:06 PM »
Harry Reid... what a piece of shit. Knowing that he's my Senator makes me want to puke...

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #755 on: February 24, 2016, 02:23:05 PM »
Harry Reid... what a piece of shit. Knowing that he's my Senator makes me want to puke...

He's an embarrassment.  I will never forget his hit job on Romney from the Senate floor.  Dirty. 

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #756 on: February 26, 2016, 11:29:25 AM »
Projected South Carolina results:

Clinton 67.1%

Sanders  28.6%

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-democratic/
 

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #757 on: February 27, 2016, 08:03:48 PM »
I don't.  I see it more as a test.  If they want to vote against their interests, they will vote for Hillary.  Obama has not done anything for blacks nor did he ever intend to.  He banned in his own words "Professional Blacks" from the White House.  His staff have commented on his disdain for black people.  Don't believe me, look it up.  Hillary is not far behind at all.

So I am hoping that blacks will prove that they aren't foolish and stupid to vote against their interest.  Can you answer me why they would willingly do that?

How'd they do?

???

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #758 on: February 27, 2016, 11:26:21 PM »
How'd they do?

???
Worthless Blacks as usual

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #759 on: February 28, 2016, 08:12:38 AM »
Worthless Blacks as usual

you're melting down...you seem to be very pre=occupied with how blacks are voting....meanwhile no concern with how whites, young people, students, homosexuals, Asians or Hispanics are voting

STRANGE

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« Reply #760 on: February 28, 2016, 09:20:59 AM »
Worthless Blacks as usual


TA....come on man you had to see Hillary winning the black vote.  She was the one who worked under Obama and not Bernie.  And his "Bernie Bros" showing off pictures of him being arrested in the 60's was embarrassing.  Who the fuck does he think he is???  Martin Luther King??? 


BTW, Bernie workers advertising on Grindr is just nasty
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« Reply #761 on: February 28, 2016, 09:30:30 AM »
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Blacks accounted for 61 percent of South Carolina Democratic primary voters in ABC News exit poll results, breaking the state’s record, 55 percent in 2008. And Clinton won 86 percent of their votes, a crushing score. Indeed she did significantly better with blacks in South Carolina than Barack Obama in 2008.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #762 on: February 28, 2016, 09:31:21 AM »
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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #763 on: February 28, 2016, 10:33:51 AM »
you're melting down...you seem to be very pre=occupied with how blacks are voting....meanwhile no concern with how whites, young people, students, homosexuals, Asians or Hispanics are voting

STRANGE
I don't care how they vote.  I am just amused by their stupidity in large numbers.  Nothing will ever change with them.  I find it hilarious that they vote for policies that keep them in poverty and that keep them from obtaining a better standard of life and achieving an education.  They do seem to want to preserve the slave master mentality and want to crush all opportunity that may be available and instead wait for a phony black savior preacher type or remain in a constant status of "victimhood".

As for the other groups.  They get it.  Most of those groups want real change and vote for Bernie.  Bernie has won Hispanics, Asians and whites, young people and students.  Blacks (with the exception of some smart ones) don't get anything.

Don't worry, I feel that most old white Republicans are just as worthless as well.  I just wish the blacks would go ahead and switch parties to them.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #764 on: February 28, 2016, 10:42:32 AM »

TA....come on man you had to see Hillary winning the black vote.  She was the one who worked under Obama and not Bernie.  And his "Bernie Bros" showing off pictures of him being arrested in the 60's was embarrassing.  Who the fuck does he think he is???  Martin Luther King??? 


BTW, Bernie workers advertising on Grindr is just nasty
Oh I saw it alright.  I know how dumb they are.  They even thought Hillary was more honest than Bernie Sanders. HAHAHAHAHAH  They have no clue who Sanders was because they are too dumb to even research anything.  They still think the 90s were the greatest time ever for their people and somehow lump Bill Clinton in there.  They don't even realize that Bill Clinton made policies that greatly increased their poverty rates, incarcerated at a rate never seen before and did nothing to help any of their communities.  Urban decay hit a high in the 90s, leaving blacks to flounder in their own shit holes.

Bernie bros?  Thats a myth.  No such thing as that.  Yah, Sanders actually did give a fuck about black people and their civil rights.  He doesn't think he is anyone but himself. 

The bottom line is blacks do not like white men and the inverse is true but to a lesser degree.  I tell other white liberals that they do not understand blacks and to just forget about even trying to.  Most do not know any.  They have their own culture, way of life, one that is self defeating.  They have never been able to help themselves and their is no indication of that happening.  It sucks that their numbers grow and they continue to drag down elements of society with their ignorance.  I feel the same way about old white Republicans but for different reasons obviously.

All in all, the USA is a country filled with stupid people.  Blacks, Old Whites who vote for policies that screw everyone, misinformed morons, low information voters and so on.  Way less than half the country is actually intelligent enough to make informed decisions.

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« Reply #765 on: February 28, 2016, 10:59:56 AM »
Even Obama did not like Blacks which is hilarious.  He banned "Professional" blacks from the Whitehouse. 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/7/obama-has-no-patience-professional-blacks-or-cbc/

Cornell West even said Obama has no clue about black people because he was never around them nor did he want to be associated with them. 

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« Reply #766 on: February 28, 2016, 11:07:10 AM »
I don't care how they vote.  I am just amused by their stupidity in large numbers.  Nothing will ever change with them.  I find it hilarious that they vote for policies that keep them in poverty and that keep them from obtaining a better standard of life and achieving an education.  They do seem to want to preserve the slave master mentality and want to crush all opportunity that may be available and instead wait for a phony black savior preacher type or remain in a constant status of "victimhood".

As for the other groups.  They get it.  Most of those groups want real change and vote for Bernie.  Bernie has won Hispanics, Asians and whites, young people and students.  Blacks (with the exception of some smart es) don't get anything.

Don't worry, I feel that most old white Republicans are just as worthless as well.  I just wish the blacks would go ahead and switch parties to them.


TA your meltdown is getting worse ;)...and your apparent hostility toward blacks is rearing it true head..LOL....you castigate blacks for having a slavemaster mentality in voting for Dems, but no such mentality for all the good old boy whites who stick with the Repubs.....and you say blacks are stupid for voting for Dems but all the whites that vote with Trump no matter what are geniuses I guess???..and you want blacks to switch to, and vote for a party who feels blacks don't even exist.....have you watched the debates????....can you remember ONE Repub candidate mentioning anything about black people?????????????????

your REAL agenda here is that you are upset that Hillary may become the next president and that blacks have a kingmaker role ion making that happen....you and I both know you don't give a hell about blacks..you just want them to serve your agenda

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #767 on: February 28, 2016, 11:25:13 AM »
TA your meltdown is getting worse ;)...and your apparent hostility toward blacks is rearing it true head..LOL....you castigate blacks for having a slavemaster mentality in voting for Dems, but no such mentality for all the good old boy whites who stick with the Repubs.....and you say blacks are stupid for voting for Dems but all the whites that vote with Trump no matter what are geniuses I guess???..and you want blacks to switch to, and vote for a party who feels blacks don't even exist.....have you watched the debates????....can you remember ONE Repub candidate mentioning anything about black people?????????????????

your REAL agenda here is that you are upset that Hillary may become the next president and that blacks have a kingmaker role ion making that happen....you and I both know you don't give a hell about blacks..you just want them to serve your agenda
Did you gloss over my words that I feel the same about old white Republicans?  Did you miss the part where I lumped stupid blacks with stupid old whites and that the majority of the USA is unintelligent.  Blacks are dumb, the majority of Whites are dumb as well.  We have a small segment of intelligence in America when it comes down to it.

Seriously scroll up and reread.

Bernie Sanders and Jesse Jackson are the only candidates who have run for office that ever did anything for Black people.  The Republicans don't have to worry about black people because they are insignificant in their party.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #768 on: February 28, 2016, 11:26:41 AM »
TA your meltdown is getting worse ;)...and your apparent hostility toward blacks is rearing it true head..LOL....you castigate blacks for having a slavemaster mentality in voting for Dems, but no such mentality for all the good old boy whites who stick with the Repubs.....and you say blacks are stupid for voting for Dems but all the whites that vote with Trump no matter what are geniuses I guess???..and you want blacks to switch to, and vote for a party who feels blacks don't even exist.....have you watched the debates????....can you remember ONE Repub candidate mentioning anything about black people?????????????????

your REAL agenda here is that you are upset that Hillary may become the next president and that blacks have a kingmaker role ion making that happen....you and I both know you don't give a hell about blacks..you just want them to serve your agenda
Blacks don't give a damn about whites either.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #769 on: February 28, 2016, 12:12:06 PM »
The Intercept: With Donald Trump Looming, Should Dems Take a Huge Electability Gamble by Nominating Hillary Clinton?

Many Democrats will tell you that there has rarely, if ever, been a more menacing or evil presidential candidate than Donald Trump. “Trump is the most dangerous major candidate for president in memory,” pronounced Vox’s Ezra Klein two weeks ago. With a consensus now emerging that the real estate mogul is the likely GOP nominee, it would stand to reason that the most important factor for many Democrats in choosing their own nominee is electability: meaning, who has the best chance of defeating the GOP Satan in the general election? In light of that, can Democrats really afford to take such a risky gamble by nominating Hillary Clinton?

In virtually every poll, her rival, Bernie Sanders, does better, often much better, in head-to-head match-ups against every possible GOP candidate. Here, for instance, is a compilation of how Clinton does against Ted Cruz in recent polls: She trails the Texas senator in all but one poll, and in the one poll she leads, it is by a paltry 2 points:



By stark contrast, Sanders leads Cruz in every poll, including by substantial margins in some:



A similar story is seen in their match-ups against Trump. Although they both end up ahead in most polls, Sanders’ margin over Trump is generally very comfortable, while Clinton’s is smaller. Clinton’s average lead over Trump is just 2.8 percent, while Sanders’ lead is a full 6 points:





Then there’s the data about how each candidate is perceived. Put simply, Hillary Clinton is an extremely unpopular political figure. By contrast, even after enduring months of attacks from the Clinton camp and its large number of media surrogates, Sanders remains a popular figure.

A Gallup poll released this week reported that “29 percent of Americans offer a positive observation about Clinton while 51 percent express something negative.” As Gallup rather starkly put it: “Unfortunately for Clinton, the negative associations currently outnumber the positive ones by a sizable margin, and even among Democrats, the negatives are fairly high.” Sanders is, of course, a more unknown quantity, but “the public’s comments about Sanders can be summarized as 26 percent positive and 20 percent negative, with the rest categorized as neutral, other or no opinion.”

In fact, the more the public gets to see of both candidates, the more popular Sanders becomes, and the more unpopular Clinton becomes. Here’s Quinnipiac explaining that dynamic in one graph just a few days ago:

This Huffington Post chart, compiling recent polls, shows not only that Clinton is deeply unpopular among the electorate, but becomes increasingly unpopular the more the public is exposed to her during this campaign:





Or look at the same metric for critical states. In Ohio, for example, Sanders’ favorability rating is +3 (44-41 percent), while Clinton’s is negative 20 (37-57 percent).

Then there’s the particular climate of the electorate. While it’s undoubtedly true that racism and ethno-nationalism are significant factors in Trump’s appeal, also quite significant is a pervasive, long-standing contempt for the political establishment, combined with enduring rage at Wall Street and corporate America, which — along with the bipartisan agenda of globalization and free trade — have spawned intense economic suffering and deprivation among a huge number of Americans. This article by the conservative writer Michael Brendan Dougherty is the best I’ve read explaining the sustained success of Trump’s candidacy, and it very convincingly documents those factors: “There are a number of Americans who are losers from a process of economic globalization that enriches a transnational global elite.”

In this type of climate, why would anyone assume that a candidate who is the very embodiment of Globalist Establishment Power (see her new, shiny endorsement from Tony Blair), who is virtually drowning both personally and politically in Wall Street cash, has “electability” in her favor? Maybe one can find reasons to support a candidate like that. But in this environment, “electability” is most certainly not one of them. Has anyone made a convincing case why someone with those attributes would be a strong candidate in 2016?

Despite this mountain of data, the pundit consensus — which has been wrong about essentially everything — is that Hillary Clinton is electable and Bernie Sanders is not. There’s virtually no data to support this assertion. All of the relevant data compels the opposite conclusion. Rather than data, the assertion relies on highly speculative, evidence-free claims: Sanders will also become unpopular once he’s the target of GOP attacks; nobody who self-identifies as a “socialist” can win a national election; he’s too old or too ethnic to win, etc. The very same supporters of Hillary Clinton were saying very similar things just eight years ago about an unknown African-American first-term senator with the name Barack Hussein Obama.

Perhaps those claims are true this time. But given the stakes we’re being told are at play if Trump is nominated, wouldn’t one want to base one’s assessment in empirical evidence rather than pundit assertions, no matter how authoritative the tone used to express them?

It’s possible to argue that electability should not be the primary factor. That’s certainly reasonable: Elections often are and should be about aspirations, ideology, and opinion-changing leaders. But given the lurking possibility of a Trump presidency, is now really the time to gamble on such a risky general election candidate as Hillary Clinton?

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #770 on: February 29, 2016, 09:18:08 AM »
Delegate count after the South Carolina blowout:

Clinton - 551
pledged: 91
super: 460

2383 delegates needed to win

Sanders - 85
pledged: 65
super: 20

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/parties/democrat

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #771 on: February 29, 2016, 05:26:48 PM »
Delegate count after the South Carolina blowout:

Clinton - 551
pledged: 91
super: 460

2383 delegates needed to win

Sanders - 85
pledged: 65
super: 20

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/parties/democrat

Still don't understand Superdelegates again?  You don't count those yet.

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #772 on: February 29, 2016, 06:23:10 PM »
Still don't understand Superdelegates again?  You don't count those yet.

Still don't understand the Superdelegates who are comprised of legislators and executives, don't represent a particular state, and are not bound by any state's primary/caucus result?  Apparently you don't. 

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« Reply #773 on: February 29, 2016, 06:50:21 PM »
Still don't understand the Superdelegates who are comprised of legislators and executives, don't represent a particular state, and are not bound by any state's primary/caucus result?  Apparently you don't. 
Show me where they voted en masse against the primary popular vote. 

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #774 on: February 29, 2016, 06:52:54 PM »
Show me where they voted en masse against the primary popular vote. 

Wait.  Are you acknowledging that you didn't realize these are not Superdelegates who represent a particular state?