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Title: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: lift 456 on January 20, 2009, 07:48:29 AM
Flex went on PBW and said that Phil Heath is great but will take at least 2 more years for him to win the O.  WTF Flex!  Are you serious?  Bob said it will only take Heath about 8 more months to win it.  I might have to agree with Bob on this topic.  Heath wont need 2 years to blow past the old guys.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: spinnis on January 20, 2009, 07:56:40 AM
Hopefully in two more years Wolf blows everyone out of the water so to speak.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: TrapsMcLats on January 20, 2009, 07:58:05 AM
WOLFE!
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: divcom on January 20, 2009, 08:02:31 AM
Phil 2010 - 2015 or 2016.

Vic will push him this yr with his size and force AMI to give to Jay or Dex.

AMI has no use for a foreigner ala Wolf.

Marketing department is working on all kinds of stuff for their Golden Boy MrO

Keep dreaming!  This one is in Phil's bank acct and his schmoe...LiftTicket. 
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Stark on January 20, 2009, 08:03:50 AM
WOLFE!

oh for fucks sake, it's WOLF not WOLFE WOLFF, you American infidels.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Sam on January 20, 2009, 08:19:03 AM
Wolf and heath will dominate for the next 5 years.......After 2010
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Meso_z on January 20, 2009, 08:22:22 AM
Wolf... ::) the same has been said over the last year. he will dominate blah blah, ha came in looking like shit. Yes he is one of the best no doubt but its VICTORS TURN NOW.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: tommywishbone on January 20, 2009, 08:31:14 AM
I thought Heath was too busy counting his Benjamins and big pimpin' to train properly.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Method101 on January 20, 2009, 08:36:20 AM
Wolf... ::) the same has been said over the last year. he will dominate blah blah, ha came in looking like shit. Yes he is one of the best no doubt but its VICTORS TURN NOW.
brutal truth
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: cheftim on January 20, 2009, 08:43:19 AM
Wolf is never gonna win the big one. This years O will definitely be interesting. Dex defending. Phils progress after a year off. And of course Jay Cutler. This is his last shot at winning it again.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Relentless on January 20, 2009, 09:02:26 AM
Flex went on PBW and said that Phil Heath is great but will take at least 2 more years for him to win the O.  WTF Flex!  Are you serious?  Bob said it will only take Heath about 8 more months to win it.  I might have to agree with Bob on this topic.  Heath wont need 2 years to blow past the old guys.

Phil Heath is not going to beat a healthy, in shape Victor Martinez.  Phil just doesn't have the width to deal with Victor.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: bigbobs on January 20, 2009, 09:08:03 AM
Up-and-coming pros are always told that they lack "muscle maturity" to place as high as the older guys....but as years pass and they achieve the "muscle maturity" they're guts become distended and they usually look less detailed overall, yet they will likely still place higher since their name is more established...then later people post pics of their earlier years compared to their later years and are like, "Wow, look at so and so earlier in his career, he looked better but placed worse!" (ex. Cutler).  Same thing will likely happen to Wolf.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: bigbobs on January 20, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/l_7e2d370e92fc43bd9e586921d1dd3d08.jpg)
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Relentless on January 20, 2009, 09:12:04 AM
Up-and-coming pros are always told that they lack "muscle maturity" to place as high as the older guys....but as years pass and they achieve the "muscle maturity" they're guts become distended and they usually look less detailed overall, yet they will likely still place higher since their name is more established...then later people post pics of their earlier years compared to their later years and are like, "Wow, look at so and so earlier in his career, he looked better but placed worse!" (ex. Cutler).  Same thing will likely happen to Wolf.

He certainly looked worse at this years Olympia than he did in 2007.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Nordic Beast on January 20, 2009, 09:20:57 AM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/l_7e2d370e92fc43bd9e586921d1dd3d08.jpg)
thats embarrassing :-\
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: gymguy on January 20, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
Flex is wrong.  Heath is already better than the rest. Politics gave the sandow to Dexter...that will not be the case this year.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: cheftim on January 20, 2009, 09:43:20 AM
Can we finally flush this turd and be done with Flex Wheeler already? Who gives a sh#t what he thinks?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Big_Tymer on January 20, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
thats embarrassing :-\

thats the total amount of money he has made from his years of bodybuilding
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: LATS on January 20, 2009, 10:06:52 AM
 heath cant compete with victors wide structure.. this year will  be victors.. hell,last year would have been victors if he had not been injuried..
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 20, 2009, 10:21:55 AM
The world is gonna end in 2012 anyways, so Phil wont win the O that many times  :P
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: divcom on January 20, 2009, 11:30:48 AM
darrem charles beat phil at the co pro show.

toney freeman should have placed ahead of phil at the O. 

they WILL NOT let certain guys beat phil.  this isnt a hard one. 

vic, green and wolf will not be allowed to place ahead of phil

jay and dex because they are vets going out the door and cant kill phil's momentum.

they'll place ronnie in a 1 yr comeback ahead of phil before v, g and w.
 
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: JasonH on January 20, 2009, 02:04:02 PM
Flex Wheeler talking out of his arse as usual.

Heath could realistically win it this year. So could Dexter. So could Cutler.

Victor - doubt it very much.

Wolf - never, although definitely a top-five guy for at least the next four or five years.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: TechnoViking on January 20, 2009, 02:06:14 PM
thats embarrassing :-\

Heath Posing like Mighty Mike Quinn is also just as embarrassing...This guy has the mentality of a high school kid...
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 20, 2009, 02:07:38 PM
Up-and-coming pros are always told that they lack "muscle maturity" to place as high as the older guys....but as years pass and they achieve the "muscle maturity" they're guts become distended and they usually look less detailed overall, yet they will likely still place higher since their name is more established...then later people post pics of their earlier years compared to their later years and are like, "Wow, look at so and so earlier in his career, he looked better but placed worse!" (ex. Cutler).  Same thing will likely happen to Wolf.


One of the few times I agree with you Bigknobs. When guys are young and in their prime they get screwed because they have to "pay their dues" while "established"guys who are past their prime are winning shows they don't deserve to win, and the cycle repeats itself ad nauseum.  Occasionally someone comes out of nowhere and goes straight to the top but not often.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: AVBG on January 20, 2009, 02:08:08 PM
Heath to win in 09
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Meso_z on January 20, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
Heath Posing like Mighty Mike Quinn is also just as embarrassing...This guy has the mentality of a high school kid...

Maybe he was just kidding?

It was on his myspace page so he might be. If he, himself posted that pic on a board only THEN we could say that he is a jackass. but he didn't.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2009, 02:12:20 PM
Up-and-coming pros are always told that they lack "muscle maturity" to place as high as the older guys....but as years pass and they achieve the "muscle maturity" they're guts become distended and they usually look less detailed overall, yet they will likely still place higher since their name is more established...then later people post pics of their earlier years compared to their later years and are like, "Wow, look at so and so earlier in his career, he looked better but placed worse!" (ex. Cutler).  Same thing will likely happen to Wolf.
Quite true. Flex Wheeler looked the best his rookie year. But I think the accident fucked him up
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Meso_z on January 20, 2009, 02:30:55 PM
Quite true. Flex Wheeler looked the best his rookie year. But I think the accident fucked him up

In the head?  :-\  ;D
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Immortal_Technique on January 20, 2009, 02:42:07 PM
Flex went on PBW and said that Phil Heath is great but will take at least 2 more years for him to win the O.  WTF Flex!  Are you serious?  Bob said it will only take Heath about 8 more months to win it.  I might have to agree with Bob on this topic.  Heath wont need 2 years to blow past the old guys.

How can you possibly know what condition he is gonna come in? Or any of the other guys for that matter, you are stupid as fuck.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Relentless on January 20, 2009, 02:43:26 PM
By the way, Flex's opinion doesn't mean anything, as he has NO IDEA WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN THE O.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 20, 2009, 02:51:04 PM
Flex went on PBW and said that Phil Heath is great but will take at least 2 more years for him to win the O.  WTF Flex!  Are you serious?  Bob said it will only take Heath about 8 more months to win it.  I might have to agree with Bob on this topic.  Heath wont need 2 years to blow past the old guys.
It will be occupied for the next 10 years. Heath will have to wait in line for this guy to fall
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Boost on January 20, 2009, 02:54:21 PM
It will be occupied for the next 10 years. Heath will have to wait in line for this guy to fall
Hopefully,
Wolf has had his hernia surgery, but no squatting for 3 months.

From what Chad Nicholls was sayiing, his metabolism is so ridiculously fast that timing his contest prep is a nightmare.

he gets lean reallllly quick, and then just starts burning away muscle.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 20, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Phil 2010 - 2015 or 2016.

Vic will push him this yr with his size and force AMI to give to Jay or Dex.

AMI has no use for a foreigner ala Wolf.

Marketing department is working on all kinds of stuff for their Golden Boy MrO

Keep dreaming!  This one is in Phil's bank acct and his schmoe...LiftTicket. 
darrem charles beat phil at the co pro show.

toney freeman should have placed ahead of phil at the O. 

they WILL NOT let certain guys beat phil.  this isnt a hard one. 

vic, green and wolf will not be allowed to place ahead of phil

jay and dex because they are vets going out the door and cant kill phil's momentum.

they'll place ronnie in a 1 yr comeback ahead of phil before v, g and w.
 

Did Dex winning make sense politically? If these things are always decided in advance how come pretty much no one predicted Dex to win? If it's about marketing how come they didn't let Jay win again, you'd think he was better for business? No?
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Method101 on January 20, 2009, 03:16:56 PM
Hopefully,
Wolf has had his hernia surgery, but no squatting for 3 months.
Pros stopped squatting in the fucking 90s apart from Ronnie.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Chick on January 20, 2009, 03:29:12 PM
Did Dex winning make sense politically? If these things are always decided in advance how come pretty much no one predicted Dex to win? If it's about marketing how come they didn't let Jay win again, you'd think he was better for business? No?

LOL...exactly...and Flex was supposed to win in 98, and Jay was supposed to win in 01, and Gunter was supposed to beat Ronnie in 02, and Ronnie was supposed to win #9.......
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: divcom on January 20, 2009, 04:00:38 PM
LOL...exactly...and Flex was supposed to win in 98, and Jay was supposed to win in 01, and Gunter was supposed to beat Ronnie in 02, and Ronnie was supposed to win #9.......

when did ami add it's name, backing and money to the O?  guys are getting slotted.  vic, wolf, green, charles (06 CO Pro), and Tony (08 O) will FOREVER be slotted behind Phil.  Phil isnt a mass monster.  He's the conversion to the small/narrow bber Shawn Ray bit#hed about for yrs.  BS call if Phil had won this yr.  They didnt even bother updating the IFBB site to show Dex as MrO.  If you hadnt seen the show...based on the site...you'd think Jay was still MrO

if Vic comes in lights out and kills phil narrow behind...they're giving it to jay or dex...based on the vets were just better than vic that night.  already seen this in 2007. 

all the bs placings during the ronnie and yates' yrs  and now the athlete rep is telling us otherwise that they ifbb dont pull mind tricks on the paying public.   UNREAL!
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Chick on January 20, 2009, 04:08:17 PM
when did ami add it's name, backing and money to the O?  guys are getting slotted.  vic, wolf, green, charles (06 CO Pro), and Tony (08 O) will FOREVER be slotted behind Phil.  Phil isnt a mass monster.  He's the conversion to the small/narrow bber Shawn Ray bit#hed about for yrs.  BS call if Phil had won this yr.  They didnt even bother updating the IFBB site to show Dex as MrO.  If you hadnt seen the show...based on the site...you'd think Jay was still MrO

if Vic comes in lights out and kills phil narrow behind...they're giving it to jay or dex...based on the vets were just better than vic that night.  already seen this in 2007. 

all the bs placings during the ronnie and yates' yrs  and now the athlete rep is telling us otherwise that they ifbb dont pull mind tricks on the paying public.   UNREAL!

"slotted"?......SEEDED is more like it, just like in Tennis....some guys are just better than others.

Quite the imagination you have though....
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 20, 2009, 04:10:49 PM
Dorian had 1. Dex, 2. Phil, 3. Wolf

Good enough for me.

Phil was no joke, he looked great, has kept great lines while adding mass. I wanted Wolf to win but he was off. Phil could definately win it all.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Relentless on January 20, 2009, 04:11:15 PM
"slotted"?......SEEDED is more like it, just like in Tennis....some guys are just better than others.

Quite the imagination you have though....

Chick, why is it you have stuck around the vile pile that is getbig.com while so many other pros have run for the hills?  I respect what you bring to the table, so why can't many of your buddies do the same thing?

It's good to have a pro around who can handle his business.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: divcom on January 20, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
"slotted"?......SEEDED is more like it, just like in Tennis....some guys are just better than others.

Quite the imagination you have though....

actually...that's the stooges paying money for the O...thinking they are getting a fair show. Are Manion Jr's girls still getting all the top spots in Fit/Fig?  It's nice to have dad heading the judges.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Viking11 on January 20, 2009, 05:20:59 PM
If Martinez is able to bring his legs back all the way, and then some, AND he nails his conditioning, he will beat hard to beat. Heath already has those factors going for him. His problem will be dealing with the bigger and wider Martinez. Dennis could  beat them both, only if he comes in with a bigger back and calves, without those he's in trouble. The wildcard, Toney Freeman could screw up most of their nights if he comes in and nails his conditioning. Should be a huge battle.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Relentless on January 20, 2009, 05:27:33 PM
If Martinez is able to bring his legs back all the way, and then some, AND he nails his conditioning, he will beat hard to beat. Heath already has those factors going for him. His problem will be dealing with the bigger and wider Martinez. Dennis could  beat them both, only if he comes in with a bigger back and calves, without those he's in trouble. The wildcard, Toney Freeman could screw up most of their nights if he comes in and nails his conditioning. Should be a huge battle.

When Victor is ON, no one today can beat him.  Heath doesn't have the width, Dennis does not have the condition or the "complete" look Vic does.  Toney can only take it if he is ON and Vic is OFF.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Viking11 on January 20, 2009, 05:50:41 PM
Lol, I thought that's what I was saying...
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Meso_z on January 21, 2009, 12:07:16 AM
a 2007 Vic is unbeatable by todays pros.

Im sure he will come in better than that.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Mrdibbs on January 21, 2009, 12:22:58 AM
Vic needs to make a sponsor change to get first place
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: divcom on January 21, 2009, 02:23:34 AM
a 2007 Vic is unbeatable by todays pros.

Im sure he will come in better than that.

he was beatable by 2007 standards.  ask jay and the ifbb judges.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: alnassak on January 21, 2009, 03:46:54 AM
Up-and-coming pros are always told that they lack "muscle maturity" to place as high as the older guys....but as years pass and they achieve the "muscle maturity" they're guts become distended and they usually look less detailed overall, yet they will likely still place higher since their name is more established...then later people post pics of their earlier years compared to their later years and are like, "Wow, look at so and so earlier in his career, he looked better but placed worse!" (ex. Cutler).  Same thing will likely happen to Wolf.

very honest post !
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Tre on January 21, 2009, 05:39:53 AM
Phil 2010 - 2015 or 2016.

Vic will push him this yr with his size and force AMI to give to Jay or Dex.

That's the thing - Phil's got the youth and the physique package to enjoy a nice, long run at the top.

Everyone says he's a really heady guy, so he's got the potential to make a real career out of bodybuilding.  I wish the young brotha the best and hope he keeps an eye on his money.
Title: Re: Flex Wheeler: "It will take 2 more years for Heath to Win the O"
Post by: Relentless on January 21, 2009, 06:48:35 AM
That's the thing - Phil's got the youth and the physique package to enjoy a nice, long run at the top.

Everyone says he's a really heady guy, so he's got the potential to make a real career out of bodybuilding.  I wish the young brotha the best and hope he keeps an eye on his money.


Really heady guy?  I hope you aren't basing this off what others in the bodybuilding community say, as it isn't a very "heady" bunch of folks.