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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2011, 07:44:11 PM »
Did OBL with win war?

He's dead

American troops occupy and control afganistan resources.

American troops disposed of Saddam Hussain and in essence occupy and control Iraq.

We got fingers in Libya

We hunted and ar hunting down AQ all over the globe

We have seized millions of their money.

We relegated most of what ever other ground troops to living in caves.

Did I mention he is also fish food?


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What happened to the USA since 911?

Airport scanners and a 3 oz limit for gels and liquids.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2011, 09:00:29 PM »


What happened to the USA since 911?

Airport scanners and a 3 oz limit for gels and liquids.

Theres been more than that going on and more coming. Heres another bill that would create  more beuraucracy and in turn no doubt blow more money the nation doesnt have.


(Reuters) - A senator on Sunday called for a "no-ride list" for Amtrak trains after intelligence gleaned from the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound pointed to potential attacks on the nation's train system.

Sen. Charles Schumer said he would push as well for added funding for rail security and commuter and passenger train track inspections and more monitoring of stations nationwide.

"Circumstances demand we make adjustments by increasing funding to enhance rail safety and monitoring on commuter rail transit and screening who gets on Amtrak passenger trains, so that we can provide a greater level of security to the public," the New York Democrat said at a news conference.

U.S. officials last week said evidence found after the raid on bin Laden's compound in Pakistan indicated the al Qaeda leader or his associates had engaged in discussions or planning for a possible attack on a train inside the United States on September 11, 2011.

Schumer, citing U.S. intelligence analysts, said attacks were also considered on Christmas and New Year's Day and following the president's State of the Union address.

He called on the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to expand the Secure Flight monitoring program, which cross-checks air travelers with the terror watch list in an attempt to prevent anyone on the "no-fly list" from boarding, for use on Amtrak.

Such a procedure would create an Amtrak "no-ride list" to keep suspected terrorists off the U.S. rail system, he said.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2011, 02:18:38 AM »
What happened to the USA since 911?
Airport scanners and a 3 oz limit for gels and liquids.

How would you rate the performance of the US Economy from 2001 to 2011?
The state of our currency?

If this was indeed one of his goals... well, can you argue our currency or economy has gotten *stronger* since 2001?  LOL

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2011, 03:24:04 AM »
Did OBL with win war?

He's dead

American troops occupy and control afganistan resources.

American troops disposed of Saddam Hussain and in essence occupy and control Iraq.

We got fingers in Libya

We hunted and ar hunting down AQ all over the globe

We have seized millions of their money.

We relegated most of what ever other ground troops to living in caves.

Did I mention he is also fish food?


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What happened to the USA since 911?

Airport scanners and a 3 oz limit for gels and liquids.





QFT--- all of the unintended consequences have nothing to do with OBL... Oz nailed it on the head.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 03:25:48 AM »
"We". Hahahaha. You fled this country 15+ years ago because you're a pussy who can't find a country he fits in with. Why don't you tear up your passport, career student?

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2011, 03:37:56 AM »
"We". Hahahaha. You fled this country 15+ years ago because you're a pussy who can't find a country he fits in with. Why don't you tear up your passport, career student?

Had to take a pot shot huh? Who's the pussy? The guy who toughs it out on his own, works and pays for his own education? or the spoilt brat who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and got every dime he 'earned' from mommy and daddy and never had to work a day in his life? I think the answer is clear, now go back to mooching off your parents.
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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2011, 06:36:36 AM »
Nah, the country hasnt changed at all...




Cover of Drudge this morning.

USA FREAK OUT: TERROR FEARS; FALSE ALARMS

Sen. Schumer Calls For Amtrak 'Do Not Ride' List...
Two tunnel 'breaches' cause scare in NYC...
SUV 'bomb' scare ...
Threats Divert Planes in Three Separate Incidents...
Scary Flight To Chicago...
Threatening Note In Bathroom Departing Detroit...
'Are we gonna blow up?'
4 Arrested For Videotaping T&A Line At Denver...
Dallas Train Station Evacuated: Man Asked For Help Carrying Packages...

USA FREAK OUT: TERROR FEARS; FALSE ALARMS



In an audio message addressed to US President Barack Obama, he said: "America will not be able to dream of security until we live in security in Palestine. It is unfair that you live in peace while our brothers in Gaza live in insecurity."

Seems to be working.




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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2011, 06:37:39 AM »
Schumer is a real pofs.   I live in NYS and he is beyond a putz. 

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2011, 07:57:16 AM »
Nah, the country hasnt changed at all...




Cover of Drudge this morning.

USA FREAK OUT: TERROR FEARS; FALSE ALARMS

Sen. Schumer Calls For Amtrak 'Do Not Ride' List...
Two tunnel 'breaches' cause scare in NYC...
SUV 'bomb' scare ...
Threats Divert Planes in Three Separate Incidents...
Scary Flight To Chicago...
Threatening Note In Bathroom Departing Detroit...
'Are we gonna blow up?'
4 Arrested For Videotaping T&A Line At Denver...
Dallas Train Station Evacuated: Man Asked For Help Carrying Packages...

USA FREAK OUT: TERROR FEARS; FALSE ALARMS



In an audio message addressed to US President Barack Obama, he said: "America will not be able to dream of security until we live in security in Palestine. It is unfair that you live in peace while our brothers in Gaza live in insecurity."

Seems to be working.






And all of the things you posted are because of OBL and Americas response? ::)

There was terrorism before Bin Laden and there will be terrorism after Bin Laden. Until Islam no longer exists we must be willing act diligently; otherwise we are dead meat. Muslim vermin has been perpatrating acts of terror across the globe for a thousand years. What makes you think the next thousand years will be different? OBL or not-- it is an ideology we are at war with, not a single man.


The war will never end and neither will the war on drugs--- ideology and human nature will always exist. The key is to contain it.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2011, 08:31:25 AM »
Come on George, you're well read enough to know that the timing of all this hyped security isn't just coincidence, it's a result of bin ladens death. So even through death his dream lives on. Were Americans living in thus type of fear thirty years ago in this own country? I don't remember it being this way.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2011, 08:55:15 AM »
Fair enough-- however, I don't consider these responses to his death a victory for Bin Laden.

We live in the information age. 24 hour news cycles, blogs, alternative media, facebook etc.-- Sensationalism and stupidity come with the territory. Now that Islamic terrorism is within the consciousness of the general public, there is always going to be a ton of coverage regarding anything and everything related to potential attacks.

That's the price of doing business and that's what comes with the territory when you have a target on your back.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2011, 11:52:49 AM »
Come on George, you're well read enough to know that the timing of all this hyped security isn't just coincidence, it's a result of bin ladens death. So even through death his dream lives on. Were Americans living in thus type of fear thirty years ago in this own country? I don't remember it being this way.

BD, isn't this kind of a expected reaction?  Of course we will hear of new threats in the wake of OBL's death.  Of course we will strive to compensate wi stupid ineffective things like the no-fly list and now the no- ride list for trains.  AQ and OBL did have an inpact on our country but have our lives really changed much?  Not really. 

The whole title to the thread is about whether or not OBL won.  It's kind of a stupid question really.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2011, 11:54:07 AM »
How would you rate the performance of the US Economy from 2001 to 2011?
The state of our currency?

If this was indeed one of his goals... well, can you argue our currency or economy has gotten *stronger* since 2001?  LOL

That's really an awfully bad/weak/unrealted argument 240. 

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2011, 11:57:01 AM »
This whole episode proves Navy Seals kick fucking ass, ANYONES' ASS.   

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2011, 11:58:15 AM »
Did OBL with win war?

He's dead

American troops occupy and control afganistan resources.

American troops disposed of Saddam Hussain and in essence occupy and control Iraq.

We got fingers in Libya

We hunted and ar hunting down AQ all over the globe

We have seized millions of their money.

We relegated most of what ever other ground troops to living in caves.

Did I mention he is also fish food?


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What happened to the USA since 911?

Airport scanners and a 3 oz limit for gels and liquids.

Taking off our shoes too.  ::)  But I agree with you. 

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2011, 12:17:05 PM »
That's really an awfully bad/weak/unrealted argument 240. 

not if a bulk of the borrowing that led to the dollar decline was to support wars directly caused by OBL.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2011, 12:17:46 PM »
This whole episode proves Navy Seals kick fucking ass, ANYONES' ASS.   

Truth.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2011, 07:02:35 PM »
BD, isn't this kind of a expected reaction?  Of course we will hear of new threats in the wake of OBL's death.  Of course we will strive to compensate wi stupid ineffective things like the no-fly list and now the no- ride list for trains.  AQ and OBL did have an inpact on our country but have our lives really changed much?  Not really. 




 I don't wanna believe that some future generation might actually believe that getting anally probed is a fair sacrifice for the promise of safety. It might sound laughable, but I never thought it would be possible that the public would be okay with stepping into a machine that can view them as if they were nude either.

I dont like the direction I see things going.
 




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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2011, 07:05:20 PM »
It's everything.   We have such a dumbed down society it's not even funny.  I ask my 16 yo niece questions about basic shit and she is beyond clueless. 

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2011, 07:57:46 PM »
not if a bulk of the borrowing that led to the dollar decline was to support wars directly caused by OBL.

anyone?

OBL starts this war.  He says his goal is to drain us financially.  We borrow what, a trillion a year for the wars?  More?  The USD is tanking and if we weren't paying for 2-3 wars, I doubt we'd be tanking.

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Re: Did Osama Bin Laden win the war?
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2011, 09:28:26 PM »

 I don't wanna believe that some future generation might actually believe that getting anally probed is a fair sacrifice for the promise of safety. It might sound laughable, but I never thought it would be possible that the public would be okay with stepping into a machine that can view them as if they were nude either.

I dont like the direction I see things going.
 


I don't either.