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My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« on: October 09, 2017, 03:49:28 PM »
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...
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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2017, 03:59:17 PM »
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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2017, 04:08:02 PM »
The Black Lives Matter movement is based on a lie.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 04:10:46 PM »
The Black Lives Matter movement is based on a lie.
not the point but ok... all generations of people in this country have been wrong at one time but they never took a knee
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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 04:15:15 PM »
I'm white, unpatriotic, and don't watch sports so none of this matters to me.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 04:17:12 PM »
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...
You want to be compelled to salute flags? Move to North Korea. We do as we please here in America.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 04:28:54 PM »
not the point but ok... all generations of people in this country have been wrong at one time but they never took a knee

All these "take a knee" phaggots can suck my (abnormally large) white, Christian, red-blooded American cock.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2017, 04:32:08 PM »
All these "take a knee" phaggots can suck my (abnormally large) white, Christian, red-blooded American cock.
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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2017, 04:35:52 PM »
Every citizen in this nation owes a debt. A debt of gratitude. As a child it starts in school with honoring the flag, the very symbol of freedom. Not just American freedom, world freedom. Some children are in the boy scouts and girls scouts. Organizations put in place to instill pride and build character in American youth. For the men who built this nation thru blood sweat and tears, the flag stands. For the men whom fought and died for this nation, the flag stands. For the men whom make many millions of dollars playing a childs game and choose to not stand................the flag still stands.
    To the men in football jerseys who do not stand for the flag, who do so for the issues of racial injustice, I ask this. What other than taking a knee have you done to  raise the needle to the direction you are wanting. Are you in the poor communities speaking with your brethren about drug use? Are you telling the youth that violence is not the way? Are you incouraging the youth to get out of the ghetto and improve themselves with education, a job skill, trade skill? Are you talking with the young women about birth control and fatherless children? Are you talking to the youth and telling them that in America color does not matter. That in America anyone willing to work hard enough will improve themselves.
    Until then you have no right to disgrace the very symbol that gives you freedom to play a childs game reaping many millions for doing so very little. Football is not a job, its a fucking game.
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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2017, 04:36:03 PM »
Moron

Whatever you say you estrogen dominant phaggot.  Go find a girlfriend so I can fuck her right in front of you.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2017, 04:39:58 PM »
Whatever you say you estrogen dominant phaggot.  Go find a girlfriend so I can fuck her right in front of you.
Weak.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 04:44:56 PM »
Weak.

You're not man enough to fuck with me.  I'd hit you so hard you'd shit your pants and have a seizure.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 04:47:03 PM »
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...

just curious, when did we agree that kneeling was disrespectful?
I must have missed that vote

I don't see any problem with peaceful, non-violent political protest.
Some people might find it uncomfortable or distasteful just as others might find KKK marches or the Westborough Baptist Church distasteful.  Same way they might find pro-life or pro-choice distasteful
That's actually a protected right in this country and actually part of what the flag represents.

290 Protesters were arrested in Russia over the weekend

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St. Petersburg, Russia (CNN)Russian police arrested 290 protesters in 26 cities as marches took place against President Vladimir Putin on the leader's 65th birthday, according to independent monitoring group OVD.

Thousands attended the marches on Saturday, held by supporters of Putin's only real political opponent, activist Alexei Navalny, who is serving a 20-day jail term for organizing an unauthorized public meeting.
It is very difficult to legally organize protests in Russia, where public assembly laws have been tightened several times since Putin's current presidential term began in 2012.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/08/europe/russia-protest-navalny-putin/index.html

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 04:54:50 PM »
just curious, when did we agree that kneeling was disrespectful?
I must have missed that vote

I don't see any problem with peaceful, non-violent political protest.
Some people might find it uncomfortable or distasteful just as others might find KKK marches or the Westborough Baptist Church distasteful.  Same way they might find pro-life or pro-choice distasteful
That's actually a protected right in this country and actually part of what the flag represents.

290 Protesters were arrested in Russia over the weekend

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/08/europe/russia-protest-navalny-putin/index.html
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have
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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 04:58:59 PM »
when are they going to protest the brew on brew violence that plagues late night chicken shops?

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 04:59:31 PM »
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have

These chocolate faced idiots aren't sophisticated enough to understand a concept like that.  Plus, he dindu nuffin.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2017, 05:02:11 PM »
when are they going to protest the brew on brew violence that plagues late night chicken shops?

They aren't, because they are fundamentally dishonest.  Chicago is a fucking war zone but since the killers and the victims are both black all these activists don't give a fuck.

They only care about things that serve their victimhood narrative.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2017, 05:09:45 PM »
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have

you're certainly entitled to your own opinion but that's all it is...your opinion

Here's a picture of WWII Vet John Middlemas kneeling in solidarity with the NFL players and he said "“Those kids have every right to protest.”

You see, everyone can have a different opinion in this country

It's part of what makes us a great country

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/25/ww2-veteran-97-kneels-in-support-protesting-athletes.html

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2017, 05:10:15 PM »
They aren't, because they are fundamentally dishonest.  Chicago is a fucking war zone but since the killers and the victims are both black all these activists don't give a fuck.

They only care about things that serve their victimhood narrative.

The players got what they wanted in Chicago and violent crime went through the roof. People don’t want to acknowledge the existence of trade-offs. Either you have aggressive policing in these areas or out of control crime. Pick your poison.


Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale - The Loop - Chicago - DNAinfo


https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2017, 05:44:43 PM »
These chocolate faced idiots aren't sophisticated enough to understand a concept like that.  Plus, he dindu nuffin.
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Student's all over the world today are standing up for their rights and fighting for their rights, but here in America, the so-called Negro students have allowed themselves to be maneuvered under a tag of "sit-in". The word sit itself is not an honorable tag, anybody can sit, and old woman can sit, a coward can sit, a baby can sit, anything can sit, but it takes a man to stand.

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2017, 05:52:47 PM »
These chocolate faced idiots aren't sophisticated enough to understand a concept like that.  Plus, he dindu nuffin.

Who taught you to hate?

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2017, 06:02:05 PM »
Protest all you want....but on your own time...

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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2017, 06:02:47 PM »
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...


What you said about ellis island isn't true. This myth that liberal whites like to perpetuate of america letting people of all colors immigrate here is nothing but a lie. It is true that italians and the irish were treated like shit, in fact during slavery the irish sold for less than half of Africans.

During the colonial era immigrants came to America seeking economic opportunities. However, because the price of passage was steep, an estimated one-half or more of the white Europeans who made the voyage did so by becoming indentured servants. Although some people voluntarily indentured themselves, others were kidnapped in European cities and forced into servitude in America. Additionally, thousands of English convicts were shipped across the Atlantic as indentured servants.

The following is cut and paste. You want sources? They're everywhere. America isn't a melting pot, it never will be, that wasn't the intention of it's Anglo Saxon founding fathers, they wanted it to be a white nation. This is the bullshit you've been fed through the school system and every form of media for the last 50 years. Remember that blacks were considered 3/5 of a man, subhuman according to the constitution. What does this tell you?

Any dumb fucking white man who parrots this same nonsense needs to educate himself on the history of America's immigration
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IMMIGRATION IN THE MID-19TH CENTURY
Another major wave of immigration occurred from around 1815 to 1865. The majority of these newcomers hailed from Northern and Western Europe. Approximately one-third came from Ireland, which experienced a massive famine in the mid-19th century. In the 1840s, almost half of America’s immigrants were from Ireland alone. Typically impoverished, these Irish immigrants settled near their point of arrival in cities along the East Coast. Between 1820 and 1930, some 4.5 million Irish migrated to the United States.

Also in the 19th century, the United States received some 5 million German immigrants. Many of them journeyed to the present-day Midwest to buy farms or congregated in such cities as Milwaukee, St. Louis and Cincinnati. In the national census of 2000, more Americans claimed German ancestry than any other group.

During the mid-1800s, a significant number of Asian immigrants settled in the United States. Lured by news of the California gold rush, some 25,000 Chinese had migrated there by the early 1850s.

The influx of newcomers resulted in anti-immigrant sentiment among certain factions of America’s native-born, predominantly Anglo-Saxon Protestant population. The new arrivals were often seen as unwanted competition for jobs, while many Catholics–especially the Irish–experienced discrimination for their religious beliefs. In the 1850s, the anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic American Party (also called the Know-Nothings) tried to severely curb immigration, and even ran a candidate, former U.S. president Millard Fillmore (1800-1874), in the presidential election of 1956.

Following the Civil War, the United States experienced a depression in the 1870s that contributed to a slowdown in immigration.

ELLIS ISLAND AND FEDERAL IMMIGRATION REGULATION
One of the first significant pieces of federal legislation aimed at restricting immigration was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which banned Chinese laborers from coming to America. Californians had agitated for the new law, blaming the Chinese, who were willing to work for less, for a decline in wages.

For much of the 1900s, the federal government had left immigration policy to individual states. However, by the final decade of the century, the government decided it needed to step in to handle the ever-increasing influx of newcomers. In 1890, President Benjamin Harrison (1833-1901) designated Ellis Island, located in New York Harbor near the Statue of Liberty, as a federal immigration station. More than 12 million immigrants entered the United States through Ellis Island during its years of operation from 1892 to 1954.

EUROPEAN IMMIGRATION: 1880-1920
Between 1880 and 1920, a time of rapid industrialization and urbanization, America received more than 20 million immigrants. Beginning in the 1890s, the majority of arrivals were from Central, Eastern and Southern Europe. In that decade alone, some 600,000 Italians migrated to America, and by 1920 more than 4 million had entered the United States. Jews from Eastern Europe fleeing religious persecution also arrived in large numbers; over 2 million entered the United States between 1880 and 1920.

The peak year for admission of new immigrants was 1907, when approximately 1.3 million people entered the country legally. Within a decade, the outbreak of World War I (1914-1918) caused a decline in immigration. In 1917, Congress enacted legislation requiring immigrants over 16 to pass a literacy test, and in the early 1920s immigration quotas were established. The Immigration Act of 1924 created a quota system that restricted entry to 2 percent of the total number of people of each nationality in America as of the 1890 national census–a system that favored immigrants from Western Europe–and prohibited immigrants from Asia.

THE IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT OF 1965
Immigration plummeted during the global depression of the 1930s and World War II (1939-1945). Between 1930 and 1950, America’s foreign-born population decreased from 14.2 to 10.3 million, or from 11.6 to 6.9 percent of the total population, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. After the war, Congress passed special legislation enabling refugees from Europe and the Soviet Union to enter the United States. Following the communist revolution in Cuba in 1959, hundreds of thousands of refugees from that island nation also gained admittance to the United States.

In 1965, Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Act, which did away with quotas based on nationality and allowed Americans to sponsor relatives from their countries of origin. As a result of this act and subsequent legislation, the nation experienced a shift in immigration patterns. Today, the majority of U.S. immigrants come from Asia and Latin America rather than Europe.













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Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2017, 06:24:41 PM »
Malcolm X

Hopefully you're not suggesting the MalcomX would have wanted them to "stand" for the national anthem

here's another quote from MalcomX

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“No, I’m not an American. I’m one of 22 million black people who are the victims of Americanism. One of the … victims of democracy, nothing but disguised hypocrisy. So I’m not standing here speaking to you as an American, or a patriot, or a flag-saluter, or a flag-waver – no, not I! I’m speaking as a victim of this American system. I don’t see any American dream; I see an American nightmare!”