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Title: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2016, 06:16:56 PM
What the headline really says is "Kaepernick risks career in falling for a false narrative"

Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/28/kaepernick-will-sit-through-anthem-until-theres-change.html


Kaepernick was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, to Heidi Russo, a 19-year-old woman who was single and destitute at the time. His birth father, an African American, was out of the picture before he was born.[1][2][3] Russo placed her son for adoption with Rick and Teresa Kaepernick, a white couple who had two children—son Kyle and daughter Devon - Wikipedia


Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: calfzilla on August 28, 2016, 06:19:56 PM
If I were president I would offer him death or be shipped back to Africa.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: RagingBull on August 28, 2016, 06:24:23 PM
2012 - Usain Bolt stopped the interview to hear the U.S. anthem


Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2016, 06:29:36 PM
2012 - Usain Bolt stopped the interview to hear the U.S. anthem




I saw that. Awesome!! And he's not even from this country!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on August 28, 2016, 06:31:19 PM
Because he always did this, right? Back when he was still a starting/winning QB, with racist injustice running rampant nationwide. He "sat" the whole time?

Not just a 'fuck you' tantrum, right?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Bevo on August 28, 2016, 06:34:05 PM
Crapernick deserves a career ending injury
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2016, 06:35:01 PM
Crapernick deserves a career ending injury

Delivered by JJ Watt
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Redux on August 28, 2016, 06:46:08 PM
Kaepernick is pretty much the poster child for dumb, narcissistic athletes who do stuff like this just to get attention for HIMSELF.
What has he ever done to help anyone but himself? 
He could send several black kids to college just on the money he spends on sneakers.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Erik C on August 28, 2016, 07:37:21 PM
The "Change" he will get is him out of the line up, as the 49s dump him because of lost revenues, that he causes them.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: epic_alien on August 28, 2016, 10:19:45 PM
The "Change" he will get is him out of the line up, as the 49s dump him because of lost revenues, that he causes them.

his career is over

he cares more about weed
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Moontrane on August 28, 2016, 10:24:58 PM
2012 - Usain Bolt stopped the interview to hear the U.S. anthem




 :D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 28, 2016, 10:26:32 PM
his career is over

he cares more about weed

NFL and Goodell are too liberal to have him lose his career. At the most he'll be released by the 49ers because hes now media distraction.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: calfzilla on August 28, 2016, 10:30:11 PM
2012 - Usain Bolt stopped the interview to hear the U.S. anthem




That's a class act!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SaintAnger on August 28, 2016, 10:45:51 PM
Child's play.

If he really wanted to up the ante, he would have boycotted playing in the cities where black men have been shot until prosecutors pressed charges against the police who shot them.

THEN we'd see change.

Similar action occurred in a university (Michigan?) where racism ran rampant.  The football team (mostly black) boycotted playing.  The town stood to loose MILLIONS.  The Dean ultimately had to resign.  Eventually, black people will realize their power will come in the form of green backs and not from marching, chanting or demanding respect/integration/etc.  It's about building your own business, circulating those dollars among your own people, creating your own media, art, policing your own neighborhood, electing officials who will serve your interests, hiring each other, and on it goes.  Owning and controlling. 

It worked for Asians, Jews and recently, Latinos, who this month, bought Trump (of all people), lock stock and barrel!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on August 28, 2016, 10:47:19 PM
I don't care if he grew up poor, rich, sheltered or neglected.  Give no fcks.

He's a disrespectful dick.  Terrible distraction for the team
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on August 29, 2016, 02:40:47 AM
Child's play.

If he really wanted to up the ante, he would have boycotted playing in the cities where black men have been shot until prosecutors pressed charges against the police who shot them.

THEN we'd see change.

Baffling how your brain works.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: mass243 on August 29, 2016, 03:23:00 AM
I like individuals with principles.

Unless people like him, you yankeewussies wouldn't even have an anthem but would still be licking anuses of european kings.
Just saying to all you "tough guys" calling the guy unpatriotic etc. He's not unpatriotic... he's just not brainwashed.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Bevo on August 29, 2016, 03:45:09 AM
I like individuals with principles.

Unless people like him, you yankeewussies wouldn't even have an anthem but would still be licking anuses of european kings.
Just saying to all you "tough guys" calling the guy unpatriotic etc. He's not unpatriotic... he's just not brainwashed.

So the anthem and the flag represents oppression of blacks and people of color? Cause that's what he's referring to
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Powerlift66 on August 29, 2016, 03:46:22 AM
Colin sits to pee as well, pussy...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: mass243 on August 29, 2016, 03:56:29 AM
So the anthem and the flag represents oppression of blacks and people of color? Cause that's what he's referring to

Well, I'm not into starting a flame war but isn't that in all fairness pretty much what US flag represents? With the history of slavery, apartheid well in to 70s etc.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 29, 2016, 03:58:45 AM
Well, I'm not into starting a flame war but isn't that in all fairness pretty much what US flag represents? With the history of slavery, apartheid well in to 70s etc.


Do you expect us to read your posts if there's no Soviet military hardware pics?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Super Natural on August 29, 2016, 04:16:15 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on August 29, 2016, 04:18:05 AM
...

Those were his masters!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2016, 05:31:20 AM
Typical
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 29, 2016, 07:25:54 AM
Crapernick deserves a career ending injury

His career was already over way before this.  I still say if they played Alex Smith they'd have won the SuperBowl against the Ravens.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
Kaepernick is pretty much the poster child for dumb, narcissistic athletes who do stuff like this just to get attention for HIMSELF.
What has he ever done to help anyone but himself? 
He could send several black kids to college just on the money he spends on sneakers.

Exactly.  Lots of stuff he could do with his resources.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 29, 2016, 01:13:22 PM
Settle down Francis. Everyone has the right to peacefully protest. Race baiting by the media as usual.

The first protesters were white. Fact!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: epic_alien on August 29, 2016, 01:16:10 PM
i think prior to pulling this selfish stunt he had made the decision that he doesn't care if he plays anymore.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Simple Simon on August 29, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
That's a class act!
he would have done that regardless of the country, its respect for the athlete on the podium, lol at all the Americans getting up themselves, like he gives a fuck about the USA.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: calfzilla on August 29, 2016, 01:18:22 PM
he would have done that regardless of the country, its respect for the athlete on the podium, lol at all the Americans getting up themselves, like he gives a fuck about the USA.

I don't care which country it is for. It's just a classy respectful act regardless of the country.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Simple Simon on August 29, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
I don't care which country it is for. It's just a classy respectful act regardless of the country.
correct
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Board_SHERIF on August 29, 2016, 03:37:29 PM
surprised the patriotic people of Amerca are putting up with this man/boy pathetic spoilt golliwog..he is an insult to the good black people..
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on August 29, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
Well, I'm not into starting a flame war but isn't that in all fairness pretty much what US flag represents? With the history of slavery, apartheid well in to 70s etc.


60s, but we called it segregation. The anthem/flag represent freedom, sure, so he's got a constitutional right to piss on both. Likewise, others have the right to call him an ungrateful kunt for it.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on August 29, 2016, 03:45:34 PM
Settle down Francis. Everyone has the right to peacefully protest. Race baiting by the media as usual.

The first protesters were white. Fact!

Too sensible a post for getbig
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2016, 03:46:43 PM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on August 29, 2016, 03:54:29 PM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was a bigot, perhaps a white supremacist, and certainly a slave holder.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

You think Colin has any clue about this shit?

Coincidental, don't ya think, that America started sucking for him the same time he started sucking for the 9ers?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 29, 2016, 04:07:10 PM
This guy's a joke.  He's well with in his rights though.  He doesn't have to stand if he doesn't want to.  He can say fuck the USA if he chooses.

However, I'm pretty much done supporting these ignorant racist dickweeds.  I'm not attending or watching any NFL games any more.  The NFL is too big and too greedy and the players(with rare exception) are absolute pieces of shit.  Seriously, motherfuk the NFL and motherfuk Colin Kaepernick.  I'm not going to reward this shit anymore.

I've been feeling this way for a long time.  My interest in pro sports has fizzled out a lot over the last 10 or 15 years but I think it's time to step away for good.  I really wish that all white people would do the same thing.  Hit these ungrateful phaggots where it hurts...in their wallets.  They've been telling the fans fuck you for a long time.  Any white person who supports this shit is nuts.  Stop paying for their Ferraris.  Fuck them all, let them get a real job....if they are even capable of it.

Do it.  Start right now.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nails on August 29, 2016, 04:13:26 PM
I love the national anthem at sporting events, when i watch them on TV i get up off the couch and put a shirt on and show respect to the flag from my 1080p Television

I have been complaining for years to my boss that every day i clock in to work i want the national anthem played loudly before my shift begins. If athletes have to do it, so should every american before work


 ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: oldgolds on August 29, 2016, 04:23:53 PM
Pampered, spoiled Black kid....Multi-milionaire....Not only is he stupid...he's ungrateful, which disgusts me...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Bevo on August 29, 2016, 04:28:20 PM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems



Pansy liberals
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 29, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
Pampered, spoiled Black kid....Multi-milionaire....Not only is he stupid...he's ungrateful, which disgusts me...

I admire your pithy and accurate appraisal of this situation.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 29, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
You think Colin has any clue about this shit?

Coincidental, don't ya think, that America started sucking for him the same time he started sucking for the 9ers?
QFT.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Hypo on August 29, 2016, 05:06:24 PM
He's the result of everything that's wrong with black society. Father has a baby and skipped town.

You'd think he'd be more pissed at that than the "white" prejudice that gave him the opportunity to succeed.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 29, 2016, 05:11:50 PM
Kaepernick is sitting during the Anthem now because he sucks as a football player and needs attention. Honestly there is nothing more to it. If the guy was playing like he did his rookie season, he wouldn't be doing it. Unless he can magically turn it around over the next couple of years, he days playing in the NFL are over.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Fortress on August 29, 2016, 05:19:33 PM
First, Bolt's silent respect for the US anthem is super classy. Don't know much about him beyond he's freaking fast, but this video tells me a lot about the man.

Now ...

This Crapperdick or whatever is a first-class clown. Another fool without a clue.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 05:31:32 PM
Kaepernick is sitting during the Anthem now because he sucks as a football player and needs attention. Honestly there is nothing more to it. If the guy was playing like he did his rookie season, he wouldn't be doing it. Unless he can magically turn it around over the next couple of years, he days playing in the NFL are over.

Yeah, I must say this sounds likely accurate.  As The Ugly says, America must have very good timing to "suck" right at the same time his game went south.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 05:35:50 PM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems



That's really interesting, Tim.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SaintAnger on August 29, 2016, 06:18:06 PM
No one jumped on Phelps for what he did at the Olympics -- yes the fucking Olympics ceremony!!! -- while the American flag was raised.

I think this has everything to do with a black man getting out of order

Guess you cannot handle those people standing up for what little they have or want in 2016.

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SaintAnger on August 29, 2016, 06:20:32 PM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems



Solid post, Tim.  Didn't know this.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 06:21:25 PM
No one jumped on Phelps for what he did at the Olympics -- yes the fucking Olympics ceremony!!! -- while the American flag was raised.

I think this has everything to do with a black man getting out of order

Guess you cannot handle those people standing up for what little they have or want in 2016.



What did Phelps do?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2016, 06:30:33 PM
That's really interesting, Tim.
It never stops.  These people are fucking ridiculous at this point.  Now they suggest changing the Anthem because it was Anti-British at the time.  You can't make this shit up.  Really.


Fun fact, my house was built for the Granddaughter of Francis Scott Key. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2016, 06:36:31 PM
Solid post, Tim.  Didn't know this.
I bet you also didn't know that per capita, right up until the civil war, more blacks owned slaves than whites. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Tapeworm on August 29, 2016, 06:46:46 PM
If you stretch a rubber band it heats up a little.  If you hold it there and let it reach room temperature, then let it spring back, you'll notice it's colder.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2016, 06:57:01 PM
and it is clear no one clicks on links.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 07:01:04 PM
It never stops.  These people are fucking ridiculous at this point.  Now they suggest changing the Anthem because it was Anti-British at the time.  You can't make this shit up.  Really.


Fun fact, my house was built for the Granddaughter of Francis Scott Key. 

Compared with the misinformation on the Statue of Liberty, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with the Star-Spangled Banner.  Not at all.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 07:03:04 PM
and it is clear no one clicks on links.

What do mean?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2016, 07:06:47 PM
I bet you also didn't know that per capita, right up until the civil war, more blacks owned slaves than whites.  

One of those statistics that means nothing out of context.  Freed slaves would often buy family members to protect them.  So yes, many freed blacks would own 1 or a few family members, who were not then treated as slave labor.  On the other hand, plantations were owned by the rich, the 1% of whites.  And these 1% would own thousands of slaves each.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2016, 07:10:42 PM
One of those statistics that means nothing out of context.  Freed slaves would often buy family members to protect them.  So many freed blacks would own 1 or a few family members, who were not then slave labor.  On the other hand, plantations were owned by the rich, the 1% of whites.  And these 1% would own thousands of slaves each.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH  Thousands?  Are you fucking kidding me?  I think only one person in the history of the US owned barely 1,000 and that because he had six plantations.

Besides, plantation life for blacks was a lot better than life for a black in New York.  Do we need to have this conversation yet again?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2016, 07:12:12 PM
One of those statistics that means nothing out of context.  Freed slaves would often buy family members to protect them.  So yes, many freed blacks would own 1 or a few family members, who were not then treated as slave labor.  On the other hand, plantations were owned by the rich, the 1% of whites.  And these 1% would own thousands of slaves each.
The largest slaveholder in NC at one time was a black man and he was doing it to make money for the most part.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2016, 07:13:44 PM
The first slaveholder in the US was a black man.  Where do you think slaves were bought from?  From blacks selling other blacks.

Give me a fucking break. Fogarty.  Let me guess, you support reparations as well.  ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: NelsonMuntz on August 29, 2016, 07:17:40 PM
and it is clear no one clicks on links.

Last time I clicked on one of your links I got a face full of Chris Dickerson's cock.

I'll pass, thanks.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: timfogarty on August 29, 2016, 07:31:52 PM
The first slaveholder in the US was a black man.  Where do you think slaves were bought from?  From blacks selling other blacks.

So what? Are you saying that justifies it?  Who ever "started it", it was still immoral.

And I have no doubt that there was a black man in NC who owned a large number of slaves and used them for slave labor.  Again, so what?

Your point, I think, was that blacks were just as guilty as whites for slavery.  That is not supported by the facts.  In the 1800s a white minority kept a black majority in slavery.

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 29, 2016, 07:33:42 PM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems



Spoken like a true leftist.

He's free to make an ass out himself and ruin his career anyway he wants. It's his stupidity that he actually believes the false idiology that the media and the administration perpetuate every day. In other words he's a minion. You can add BLM, Transgender and gay rights to this as well.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 07:41:01 PM
Spoken like a true leftist.

He's free to make an ass out himself and ruin his career anyway he wants. It's his stupidity that he actually believes the false idiology that the media and the administration perpetuate every day. In other words he's a minion. You can add BLM, Transgender and gay rights to this as well.

Specifically which rights do you think should be denied to gay people, Coach?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 29, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
Specifically which rights do you think should be denied to gay people, Coach?

Quit your spinning as usual. No one is "oppressed" no one is singled out and sure as fuck no one but a small majority gives two shits about any of this execpt the spoon-fed left and college kids. It's a false narrative all around.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on August 29, 2016, 07:59:47 PM
 ;D  Here's what Tim thinks our National Anthem should be changed to:

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on August 29, 2016, 08:02:24 PM
Quit your spinning as usual. No one is "oppressed" no one is singled out and sure as fuck no one but a small majority gives two shits about any of this execpt the spoon-fed left and college kids. It's a false narrative all around.

So gay people should have the EXACT same rights as straight people?  It's a simple Q, and you turned it into an attack. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 29, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
So gay people should have the EXACT same rights as straight people?  It's a simple Q, and you turned it into an attack. 

Not today.

Where's the oppression, 240?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 29, 2016, 10:04:45 PM
#5

https://www.facebook.com/TomiLahren/videos/1063123907114129/
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 30, 2016, 12:28:37 AM
#5

https://www.facebook.com/TomiLahren/videos/1063123907114129/

Wow - well said!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: f450 on August 30, 2016, 02:09:27 AM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems




Not sure what you are trying to say here.

Are you saying that America wasn't founded exclusively by white men?

This gets so tiring. The history of the world is steeped in filth and grime...stop trying to make others feel guilty for things their ancestors did.

Those that hate the USA so much, should leave and go to those much better and less racist countries. There's no one stopping  them. They choose to stay because life here is great.

The ingratitude sickens me.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: CalvinH on August 30, 2016, 05:25:10 AM
Best thing would be if Kapernick got planted by some DL or LB and as he's lying there in pain the guy who hit him pulled out a little American flag and put it on him.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SF1900 on August 30, 2016, 05:37:08 AM
Choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a form of speech, and speech is protected by the First Amendment.  The actual values of our country are more important than symbols of our country.

The NFL is not patriotic.  It uses patriotism to make money.

The Star Spangle Banner is a poor choice for our national anthem, which it has been since only 1931.  Francis Scott Key was, in modern terms, a white supremacist.

Have you ever heard the third verse of The Star Spangle Banner?

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-stand-star-spangled-banner-article-1.2770075

"While it has always been known that the song was written during American slavery and that when those words about this nation being the "land of the free" didn't apply to the millions who had been held in bondage, few of us had any idea that the song itself was rooted in the celebration of slavery and the murder of Africans in America, who were being hired by the British military to give them strength not only in the War of 1812, but in the Battle of Fort McHenry of 1814. These black men were called the Corps of Colonial Marines and they served valiantly for the British military. Key despised them. He was glad to see them experience terror and death in war — to the point that he wrote a poem about it. That poem is now our national anthem."

Maybe it is time to change the national anthem again.

http://www.capradio.org/music/classical/2014/07/04/americas-five-national-anthems



Of course the NFL is not patriotic. They are only patriotic when it suits their agenda to make money. This is obviously what all businesses do.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on August 30, 2016, 05:45:57 AM
One of those statistics that means nothing out of context.  Freed slaves would often buy family members to protect them.  So yes, many freed blacks would own 1 or a few family members, who were not then treated as slave labor.  On the other hand, plantations were owned by the rich, the 1% of whites.  And these 1% would own thousands of slaves each.

LOL!

Feelings > Facts

I think someone watched D'jango one too many times.
I wish the family unit was important to blacks.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on August 30, 2016, 05:55:21 AM
I wonder if people will stop watching and supporting this shit sport and basketball. highly doubt it, so just shut the fuck up about it.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on August 30, 2016, 06:25:16 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Tapeworm on August 30, 2016, 06:30:29 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: obsidian on August 30, 2016, 08:58:27 AM
What change? Blacks are not discriminated against. Football is what 80% black? Basketball 99% black?? He is making millions. Blacks are killing blacks and whites all over the place. What exactly is this idiots fucking deal? This dindulatto should be fired immediately!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on August 30, 2016, 06:36:53 PM
Colin Kaepernick Just Went Beastmode On Hillary Clinton
The Federalist ^ | August 30, 2016 | Bre Payton
Posted on 8/30/2016, 8:54:30 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

San Francisco 49er quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who recently refused to stand during the national anthem at a preseason game, just unloaded on Hillary Clinton.

“We have a presidential candidate who has deleted emails and done things illegally and is a presidential candidate,” he said, referring to the 15,000 emails Clinton “wiped” from her private, unsecured server she used during her tenure as secretary of State. “That doesn’t make sense to me.”

“If it was any other person, they’d be in prison,” he said.” So what is this country really standing for?”

Attorney General Loretta Lynch has publicly stated that the Department of Justice doesn’t plan to press any charges against Clinton for illegally using a private server that was less secure than a Gmail account.

Lynch’s announcement came on the heels of a secret meeting she had with Bill Clinton aboard a private jet on a tarmac in Phoenix. If elected, Hillary Clinton reportedly plans to keep Lynch as attorney general. Their relationship has led many to suspect there is an underlying conflict of interest.

“You have Hillary, who has called black kids, or black teens, ‘Super-predators,'” Kaepernick said, referring to Clinton’s past remarks about gang violence in which she espoused a since-debunked theory that some say has racially charged connotations.

Hillary Clinton’s super-predator remarks aren’t the only uncomfortable comments she’s made in the past. Last year, she said black men in hoodies were scary.

“I mean if we’re honest, for a lot of well-meaning, open-minded white people, the sight of a young black man in a hoodie still evokes a twinge of fear,” she said.

Last August, she told Black Lives Matter activists that she would only talk to white people about racial issues if they didn’t quiet down.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nails on August 30, 2016, 06:51:22 PM
Donal Trump, the same guy who is refusing to turn in his tax return, who claim America is not great  ::)


If u dont like America get out ::)

I guess thats the same thinking when people come to america , they dont like their countries and leave


How will american born kapernick leave his own county once trump builds his boarder wall???
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Tre on September 01, 2016, 09:21:25 AM
Donal Trump, the same guy who is refusing to turn in his tax return, who claim America is not great  ::)


If u dont like America get out ::)

I guess thats the same thinking when people come to america , they dont like their countries and leave


How will american born kapernick leave his own county once trump builds his boarder wall???
More importantly, who wants filthy fucking loser Americans coming and staying in their countries? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 01, 2016, 10:21:55 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 01, 2016, 10:28:45 AM
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White pig as oppose to black pigs?  I get his point but it just seems insincere when you are a multi millionaire complaining about inequality.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 01, 2016, 10:29:34 AM
White pig as oppose to black pigs?  I get his point but it just seems insincere when you are a multi millionaire complaining about inequality.

I didn't get the "white" pig part either.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 10:31:16 AM
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It's like the dude is TRYING to get fired lol.

Like, he realizes his speed is gone, his arm confidence is weak, and he's likely to wash out as an NFL scrub in 2 years.  He has 2 monster contract years left, something like 15 and 17 million?  He knows he's on the chopping block, so he devises this scheme to get himself fired for political beliefs.

He still makes the $17 mil or whatever this year.  He doesn't get cut for play, he gets to be persecuted for his political beliefs instead.  He gets to move from football into the political arena, as th eone man who stood up to blah, blah, blah.

Sorta what tebow SHOULD have done - played 2 amazing years and left on on his own terms, before the league realized he was shit at decision making and could be feasted upon if you just made him throw.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nails on September 01, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
 :D :D :D

Awesome socks
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: wild willie on September 01, 2016, 11:12:30 AM
Loved the dude until he pulled this stunt
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2016, 11:26:17 AM
Someone on his Oline will open the gate for a big ass  DTackle to come in break that skinny fuck in half
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 12:38:50 PM
Someone on his Oline will open the gate for a big ass  DTackle to come in break that skinny fuck in half

the crowd would go batshit crazy if he had a career ending injury tonight. 

he knows it too - I bet he throws away a lot of passes tonight, rather than give a blitzer a chance.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Beefjake on September 01, 2016, 12:44:19 PM
Exept that his contract says that he cannot be cut if injured.
Major injury would just guarantee him one more 10+M$.

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nails on September 01, 2016, 12:44:43 PM
As silly as having to kneel when praying
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 01, 2016, 09:17:13 PM
Kaepernick is in way over his head on this one. If he was black then people would let it slide in America. But Kaepernick looks more like below. Not going to end well for him. Esp if Trump wins the election...


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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 01, 2016, 09:19:41 PM
Talk out about cops and don't stand during the National Anthem and the NFL has no problem with that. But be a player and talk out about Men dressing as women and using the woman's bathroom and you get fined and possible suspension...What a fukced up world we're living in...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2016, 09:27:13 PM
As much as people what to think this is "free speech" it's not. This is completely on the 49ers as a private employer.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SquidVicious on September 01, 2016, 09:39:22 PM
How come the MSM won't report that he's converted to Islam? His Twitter feed, his pro-Muslim posts, his facial hair, his Muslim-activist GF, it's crazy how they won't cover this. He started his career with the media focusing on his bible quote tattoos and now they're gun-shy about covering his conversion? Oops, I said Gun-shy.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 01, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
How come the MSM won't report that he's converted to Islam? His Twitter feed, his pro-Muslim posts, his facial hair, his Muslim-activist GF, it's crazy how they won't cover this. He started his career with the media focusing on his bible quote tattoos and now they're gun-shy about covering his conversion? Oops, I said Gun-shy.

Other than this empty charade, What is Colon Kapernick doing to improve things in the black cammoonity?

Is he calling out Dem leadership in Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Washington DC, or Baltimore?

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2016, 09:46:16 PM
How come the MSM won't report that he's converted to Islam? His Twitter feed, his pro-Muslim posts, his facial hair, his Muslim-activist GF, it's crazy how they won't cover this. He started his career with the media focusing on his bible quote tattoos and now they're gun-shy about covering his conversion? Oops, I said Gun-shy.

He converted to Islam? I had no idea
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: RatedXXX on September 01, 2016, 10:09:36 PM
He converted to Islam? I had no idea
Yeah,  that's from like four days ago.... ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 01, 2016, 10:10:07 PM
He converted to Islam? I had no idea

Alex jones said so

http://www.infowars.com/colin-kaepernick-converted-to-islam-before-his-anti-american-stance-coincidence/

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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 01, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
Alex jones said so

http://www.infowars.com/colin-kaepernick-converted-to-islam-before-his-anti-american-stance-coincidence/

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He's been owning the FUCK out of Killary. Try to keep up son. You've been having a hard time lately.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Tre on September 02, 2016, 10:38:38 AM
Someone on his Oline will open the gate for a big ass  DTackle to come in break that skinny fuck in half
RARE is the PRO football player who'll miss an assignment on purpose.  It's one thing to do that bullshit in high school, because you're sad that your ex-girlfriend decided she'd rather fuck the quarterback, but PRO athletes have families to feed and would rather not risk their paychecks.

the crowd would go batshit crazy if he had a career ending injury tonight. 
There are many losers out there, but wishing severe injury on someone is never the right play, because it'll eventually come back and affect someone you might know.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 02, 2016, 10:46:51 AM
RARE is the PRO football player who'll miss an assignment on purpose.  It's one thing to do that bullshit in high school, because you're sad that your ex-girlfriend decided she'd rather fuck the quarterback, but PRO athletes have families to feed and would rather not risk their paychecks.
There are many losers out there, but wishing severe injury on someone is never the right play, because it'll eventually come back and affect someone you might know.

This might be one of those rare times. I'm pretty sure there are those on the line who didn't fall of a media driven bullshit false narrative like BLM spews. Not everyone is aas dumb as Kaepernick.

BTW, anyone else notice that he's trying for the throw back black panther look with the giant fro? I could envision Cushing delivering ACL blow. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 02, 2016, 11:40:13 AM
How come the MSM won't report that he's converted to Islam? His Twitter feed, his pro-Muslim posts, his facial hair, his Muslim-activist GF, it's crazy how they won't cover this. He started his career with the media focusing on his bible quote tattoos and now they're gun-shy about covering his conversion? Oops, I said Gun-shy.

They have. It's been mentioned numerous times.  But since he converted to the Nation of Islam Malcolm X movement they are being cautious about saying shit.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nails on September 02, 2016, 04:41:50 PM
3 months for rape , just got release moments ago

 



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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: bailey on September 02, 2016, 05:45:42 PM
The fucker is half white!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck him! Attention whore. Take his NFL platform away from his dumb ass and he will have no where to speak or Seek the attention! No one would ever know or listen to his ass if he is not on the field. I see the 49ers cutting him, as he is a former shell of himself and is a huge distraction from the team. If he is so concerned about the issue, why not do this outside the NFL? Because he's trying to hang on to his job, to get attention. He is no longer a great QB. He had one good year due to his coaching and his team. He does not fit their system anymore. He still gets 19 million a year, even if he sits on the bench. So why not just sit and collect that paycheck? And have all the attention on him. Why does he not donate some of his millions to the people he feels are repressed? Because he knows his days are coming to an end! I can't wait if he actually stays on the team. Some big ass 300 pound defensive end who lost their brother in the middle east to take his ass out, like Vick! It will happen if he is not cut! 6'5, and 190 lbs max! Skinny ass joke! Stand up for the flag that gives you millions to play a fucking game!!!! Go to Iraq Kap!!!! Lol.....
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 02, 2016, 06:04:13 PM
No one jumped on Phelps for what he did at the Olympics -- yes the fucking Olympics ceremony!!! -- while the American flag was raised.

I think this has everything to do with a black man getting out of order

Guess you cannot handle those people standing up for what little they have or want in 2016.



Lolz...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: bailey on September 02, 2016, 06:10:03 PM
I knew a hebrew would respond quickly. Ok dumb ass. This is not the lame ass Olympics! It's the most watched and popular sport in the USA. Comparing it to the Olympic games is a joke. So are you! Educate yourself. That's right, I forgot. You people do not educate yourselves. Just collect wellfare!!!! And I'll say it again.... He is half white!!!!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: bailey on September 02, 2016, 06:25:23 PM
And wait!!!! Read your post. You don't even realize that you are acknowledging, Obummer a black president has caused you to live this way! So ironic, but now you will see by your own words. Obama/Hillary= Failure! The minority under Obama is in the worst shape ever! Yet you voted him in for two terms. Real smart!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on September 02, 2016, 06:28:35 PM
The fucker is half white!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck him! Attention whore. Take his NFL platform away from his dumb ass and he will have no where to speak or Seek the attention! No one would ever know or listen to his ass if he is not on the field. I see the 49ers cutting him, as he is a former shell of himself and is a huge distraction from the team. If he is so concerned about the issue, why not do this outside the NFL? Because he's trying to hang on to his job, to get attention. He is no longer a great QB. He had one good year due to his coaching and his team. He does not fit their system anymore. He still gets 19 million a year, even if he sits on the bench. So why not just sit and collect that paycheck? And have all the attention on him. Why does he not donate some of his millions to the people he feels are repressed? Because he knows his days are coming to an end! I can't wait if he actually stays on the team. Some big ass 300 pound defensive end who lost their brother in the middle east to take his ass out, like Vick! It will happen if he is not cut! 6'5, and 190 lbs max! Skinny ass joke! Stand up for the flag that gives you millions to play a fucking game!!!! Go to Iraq Kap!!!! Lol.....

The half that raised and nurtured him, sure. The other 50% - the "oppressed" half what abandoned his sorry ass - seems to have more influence, it seems.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Tapeworm on September 02, 2016, 07:00:24 PM
I knew a hebrew would respond quickly. Ok dumb ass. This is not the lame ass Olympics! It's the most watched and popular sport in the USA. Comparing it to the Olympic games is a joke. So are you! Educate yourself. That's right, I forgot. You people do not educate yourselves. Just collect wellfare!!!! And I'll say it again.... He is half white!!!!!!! ::)

Are you sure?  I thought baseball was the most watched sport.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on September 02, 2016, 07:18:59 PM
3 months for rape , just got release moments ago

 



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Your point, yeah, hilarious.

Of course there's always that rich/famous black NFL HoFer that totally killed his wife and her friend. Sentenced to nothing, remember?

The difference? Find a white person anywhere who thinks this guilty-as-fuck punk rapist should be free.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nails on September 02, 2016, 07:25:17 PM
Your point, yeah, hilarious.

Of course there's always that rich/famous black NFL HoFer that totally killed his wife and her friend. Sentenced to nothing, remember?

The difference? Find a white person anywhere who thinks this guilty-as-fuck punk rapist should be free.


You mean oj who is sitting jail for 33 year for trying to take back some of his signed jerseys , helmets and posters they stole from his storage unit?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on September 02, 2016, 07:34:09 PM
RARE is the PRO football player who'll miss an assignment on purpose.  It's one thing to do that bullshit in high school, because you're sad that your ex-girlfriend decided she'd rather fuck the quarterback, but PRO athletes have families to feed and would rather not risk their paychecks.
There are many losers out there, but wishing severe injury on someone is never the right play, because it'll eventually come back and affect someone you might know.
the only gap breaking coach knows about, is his asshole when tebow or trump comes through.
Don't even listen to his non-football knowing ass. ;)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on September 02, 2016, 07:52:58 PM

You mean oj who is sitting jail for 33 year for trying to take back some of his signed jerseys , helmets and posters they stole from his storage unit?

No, I mean OJ that a semi-functional jury found not guilty. You're talking about the other guy, the idiot who thought smarter people wouldn't remember that shit.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on September 02, 2016, 07:59:34 PM

You mean oj who is sitting jail for 33 year for trying to take back some of his signed jerseys , helmets and posters they stole from his storage unit?

Jameis Winston.....


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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SaintAnger on September 02, 2016, 10:56:06 PM
Did any of you guys who are complaining about Kaepernick get off the coach or bar stool to stand tall for the anthem?

Didn't think so.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 03, 2016, 12:41:33 AM
Did any of you guys who are complaining about Kaepernick get off the coach or bar stool to stand tall for the anthem?

Didn't think so.

I stand for it twice a week and so do our black coaches on our team who are former NFL players that think Kaepernick is a disrespectful prick.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 03, 2016, 12:48:01 AM
Child's play.

If he really wanted to up the ante, he would have boycotted playing in the cities where black men have been shot until prosecutors pressed charges against the police who shot them.

THEN we'd see change.

Similar action occurred in a university (Michigan?) where racism ran rampant.  The football team (mostly black) boycotted playing.  The town stood to loose MILLIONS.  The Dean ultimately had to resign.  Eventually, black people will realize their power will come in the form of green backs and not from marching, chanting or demanding respect/integration/etc.  It's about building your own business, circulating those dollars among your own people, creating your own media, art, policing your own neighborhood, electing officials who will serve your interests, hiring each other, and on it goes.  Owning and controlling. 

It worked for Asians, Jews and recently, Latinos, who this month, bought Trump (of all people), lock stock and barrel!

Good grief you are an idiot.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on September 03, 2016, 07:37:48 AM
I stand for it twice a week and so do our black coaches on our team who are former NFL players that think Kaepernick is a disrespectful prick.
Blacks are not going to tell a trump nut riding maybe racist like you anything, stfu.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on September 04, 2016, 06:37:17 PM
Open letter to Kaepernick

http://conservativetribune.com/cop-shot-minority-sends-kaepernick/

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 04, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Blacks are not going to tell a trump nut riding maybe racist like you anything, stfu.

Just like you and the rest of the left, no one else can tell us why you're voting for Killary (or left for that matter) you can't explain why you think I'm racist. Hell, you can't even tell us why you think Trump is racist.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SF1900 on September 04, 2016, 07:12:44 PM
Perfect example of those who "love" the constitution, but only when it agrees with their morals.  :D :D  

Anyway, is there anywhere in his signed contract that he has to stand for the anthem? I know professional organizations make it mandatory that players talk to the press. Anything about standing for the national anthem? If the NFL makes it mandatory as a private organization, well, then, free speech is thrown out the window and he gets what he deserves.

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Kwon on September 04, 2016, 07:40:51 PM
One thing is certain though (regardless of what half he likes the most)

That fellow is not related to Kaepernicus.

Nicolaus Copernicus / Nikołaj Kaepernik

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Nikolaus_Kopernikus.jpg)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SaintAnger on September 04, 2016, 08:40:16 PM
(White) Soccer star Rapinoe kneels during national anthem

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/soccer-star-rapinoe-knells-during-national-anthem (http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/soccer-star-rapinoe-knells-during-national-anthem)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 04, 2016, 09:59:49 PM
(White) Soccer star Rapinoe kneels during national anthem

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/soccer-star-rapinoe-knells-during-national-anthem (http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/soccer-star-rapinoe-knells-during-national-anthem)

Attention whoring ugly lesbian.....who fucking cares what she thinks.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Griffith on September 05, 2016, 05:06:09 AM
If he dislikes America so much, perhaps he should move somewhere else...?

He's fine with accepting the opportunities and wealth provided by his home country though...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on September 05, 2016, 03:03:06 PM
If the US oppresses blacks then why in the world is every friggin dark skinned from Africa trying to get here any way they can?

So the US just oppresses blacks though? Not dark skinned Indians, not Asians, not Mexicans?

Hmm... wonder why? ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Desolate on September 05, 2016, 05:57:15 PM
Attention whoring ugly lesbian.....who fucking cares what she thinks.

Exactly.

Just some pathetic fucking dyke.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on September 05, 2016, 06:26:10 PM
If he dislikes America so much, perhaps he should move somewhere else...?

Really?

Interesting. Wonder why no one's ever suggested this to the America-hating Americans we endlessly fucking encounter. Brilliant, sir.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Princess L on September 06, 2016, 11:42:50 PM
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Beefjake on September 07, 2016, 01:02:59 AM
US World Cup hockey team coach said something like:
" If one of my players sits during the anthem, he'd better be ready to sit the whole game. "
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 05:57:00 AM
If I were president I would offer him death or be shipped back to Africa.

Kaepernick was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 05:57:49 AM
NFL and Goodell are too liberal to have him lose his career. At the most he'll be released by the 49ers because hes now media distraction.

Lose his career for what?

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 06:04:31 AM
Someone on his Oline will open the gate for a big ass  DTackle to come in break that skinny fuck in half

Wait... so you're one of those Political  Christians... only care about Christianity when its a political topic..like "liberals are destroying Christmas (basically when attempting to play the victim)"

Because your commentary surely isn't Christ-like...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 06:05:51 AM
No, I mean OJ that a semi-functional jury found not guilty. You're talking about the other guy, the idiot who thought smarter people wouldn't remember that shit.

so he was sentenced to nothing because he went through the American Judicial system... or nah?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 07, 2016, 06:10:35 AM
Wait... so you're one of those Political  Christians... only care about Christianity when its a political topic..like "liberals are destroying Christmas (basically when attempting to play the victim)"

Because your commentary surely isn't Christ-like...

Oh....  "you just don't get it do you?"
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 06:17:10 AM
Hilarious thread... watching these dick heads and their commentary is priceless..

Juvenile rationale at its finest. "you cant criticize America, you live here"

Um i think thats what makes America what it is. The ability hold her to her own standards. We will never be a perfect nation, but to say "dont speak up about it" is about as Un-American as it gets..

This will go over several heads of the children in this thread.

 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 06:24:48 AM
Hilarious thread... watching these dick heads and their commentary is priceless..

Juvenile rationale at its finest. "you cant criticize America, you live here"

Um i think thats what makes America what it is. The ability hold her to her own standards. We will never be a perfect nation, but to say "dont speak up about it" is about as Un-American as it gets..

This will go over several heads of the children in this thread.

 

What exactly is this afro-douche protesting?   The fake BLM bullshit that started w that criminal fat ghetto creep and thug Michael Brown?  Freddy?  Trayvon?   Each one of those cases was a false narrative by race pimps
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 06:55:48 AM
What exactly is this afro-douche protesting?   The fake BLM bullshit that started w that criminal fat ghetto creep and thug Michael Brown?  Freddy?  Trayvon?   Each one of those cases was a false narrative by race pimps


Afro Douche?... wow tough guy ::)

but this is what comes up when asked what he is protesting.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2016, 07:08:15 AM
Lose his career for what?



For simply being a media distraction to any team he stays with or resigns with. It's his right to protest, it's not his right to be a distraction to his team, management, coaches and owner. Michael Samm was a perfect example of that.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2016, 07:10:05 AM
Wait... so you're one of those Political  Christians... only care about Christianity when its a political topic..like "liberals are destroying Christmas (basically when attempting to play the victim)"

Because your commentary surely isn't Christ-like...

Liberals do go out their way to try to destroy anything Christian.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 07:50:28 AM

Afro Douche?... wow tough guy ::)

but this is what comes up when asked what he is protesting.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

How does the flag oppress him?   

I called him an Afro-douche cause his hair cut is absurd - he looks as ridiculous as is his stance.  BLM and him are a joke and no one gives two shits whatsoever about his fake bullshit cause   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 07:54:18 AM
Liberals do go out their way to try to destroy anything Christian.

You one of Gods children to get his neck broken because you disagree with him. ..
What values exactly are liberals destroying...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 08:52:17 AM
You one of Gods children to get his neck broken because you disagree with him. ..
What values exactly are liberals destroying...

KAPERQUEER is protesting what again exactly? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 09:12:47 AM
KAPERQUEER is protesting what again exactly? 
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 09:13:56 AM
KAPERQUEER is protesting what again exactly? 

youre not that great at research are you... Not that good at retaining information when its laid in front of you either.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 09:19:13 AM
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

1)  How does the flag oppress black people?

2)  Bodies in the street ?  Hey moron - 99% of those in the street are black on black ghetto thug worthless pos killing each other that this afro-headed fool is silent on.

F him.   Typical ignorant liberal buffoon clueless on reality.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: mass243 on September 07, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
(White) Soccer star Rapinoe kneels during national anthem

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/soccer-star-rapinoe-knells-during-national-anthem (http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/soccer-star-rapinoe-knells-during-national-anthem)

You seriously can't prefer that over sitting down during anthem.

That clowning has "North Korea" written all over it. You know, people there do this kind of shit.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 10:41:50 AM
Kaepernick is a fool.  He could learn from Ben Watson.

'I Stand': NFL star Ben Watson vows from hospital bed to honor National Anthem
Published September 07, 2016 
FoxNews.com

Few men who have played in the National Football League have spoken out on social issues with the eloquence of Baltimore Ravens’ tight end Ben Watson, who has now weighed in on the Colin Kaepernick controversy.

Watson, a devout Christian and father of five whose upcoming season was lost last month when he suffered a torn Achilles tendon in a preseason game, is the author of "Under Our Skin: Getting Real About Race--And Getting Free From the Fears and Frustrations That Divide Us."

Watson's essay on racially charged events in Ferguson, Mo., two years ago went viral, as did a post he wrote following the terror attacks in Paris last fall.

On Monday, Watson wrote from his hospital bed on the controversy sparked when fellow NFL player Kaepernick announced he would not stand for the National Anthem. Watson’s entire post can be viewed here, but below are key excerpts:

“I will not have the option to kneel this Sunday while the National Anthem is being played. A week ago, in what would prove to be my last pre-game opportunity of this 2016 season, I stood with my right hand over my heart as the anthem played. And if I am fortunate enough to ever be dressed for another game day I imagine I would be doing the same thing I did in my last. Standing. Not because America is ALL I desire it to be because most assuredly it is not. Racism still stews, families are fractured, the unborn are trashed, schools are struggling, religious freedom is increasingly under attack, violence pollutes our cities and our suburbs, and there is a growing divide between law enforcement and the community.”

Watson stops well short of condemning Kaepernick, but goes on to make clear that if he is able to recover and take the field in 2017, he will be on his feet for the Star-Spangled Banner.

“I stand, because this mixed bag of evil and good is MY home. And because it's MY home my standing is a pledge to continue the fight against all injustice and preserve the greatest attributes of the country, including Colin Kaepernick's right to kneel.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/07/stand-nfl-star-ben-watson-vows-from-hospital-bed-to-honor-national-anthem.html
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2016, 11:09:06 AM
Something Kaepernick will probably never do...

http://www.patriotchronicle.com/nfl-star-russell-wilson-saw-a-soldier-carrying-his-bags-to-coach-his-next-action-was-pure-class/
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2016, 11:10:41 AM
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

Again, fueling the fire of something that simply is not true.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 11:12:31 AM
Again, fueling the fire of something that simply is not true.

95ers love to believe in fake narratives and then act indignant when their fantasies and bullshit dont play out as their warped minds have told them. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Skeeter on September 07, 2016, 11:41:07 AM
"According to the NFL, Kaepernick’s red 49ers jersey has become the No.1-selling jersey online."

 ;D


http://www.salon.com/2016/09/07/amid-national-anthem-controversy-colin-kaepernicks-jersey-reaches-no-1-in-online-sales-qb-pledges-to-donate-all-proceeds/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow (http://www.salon.com/2016/09/07/amid-national-anthem-controversy-colin-kaepernicks-jersey-reaches-no-1-in-online-sales-qb-pledges-to-donate-all-proceeds/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 11:47:13 AM
Again, fueling the fire of something that simply is not true.


there is empirical data that proves it. Historically, the roots of this country came at the oppression of blacks.
Now there are 2 ways for you to go about this. Do research and form an opinion based on the totality of that research. Or you can be a level 1 thinker and only support a narrative that supports your narrow point of view. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 11:48:09 AM
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sfpd-racist-text-messages-20160426-story.html
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 12:14:38 PM
"According to the NFL, Kaepernick’s red 49ers jersey has become the No.1-selling jersey online."

 ;D


http://www.salon.com/2016/09/07/amid-national-anthem-controversy-colin-kaepernicks-jersey-reaches-no-1-in-online-sales-qb-pledges-to-donate-all-proceeds/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow (http://www.salon.com/2016/09/07/amid-national-anthem-controversy-colin-kaepernicks-jersey-reaches-no-1-in-online-sales-qb-pledges-to-donate-all-proceeds/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow)

Big surprise - the same followers and bandwagon idiots like andre, option Fail, Lil J-dog, Bennyisafag, etc - buy the jersey to show they are down w the cause - what cause is that - no one really knows or evens gives flying f any more. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 12:21:31 PM

there is empirical data that proves it. Historically, the roots of this country came at the oppression of blacks.
Now there are 2 ways for you to go about this. Do research and form an opinion based on the totality of that research. Or you can be a level 1 thinker and only support a narrative that supports your narrow point of view. 

We don't need to empirical data to show what our country did to minorities.  The history is pretty obvious.  But to say the government oppresses minorities in today's America is just false. 

And the claim that law enforcement is murdering minorities is false. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 07, 2016, 12:37:12 PM
We don't need to empirical data to show what our country did to minorities.  The history is pretty obvious.  But to say the government oppresses minorities in today's America is just false. 

And the claim that law enforcement is murdering minorities is false. 

I don't think government as an entity oppresses minorities, but individuals who work within government still do.

There are many instances where it has been proven to still happen today.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
I don't think government as an entity oppresses minorities, but individuals who work within government still do.

THIS.   Many 70 year old white dudes tend to be a little racist.  They act like they should win a Nobel Peace Prize for saying something nice about "my African-American over there".
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 12:49:51 PM

there is empirical data that proves it. Historically, the roots of this country came at the oppression of blacks.
Now there are 2 ways for you to go about this. Do research and form an opinion based on the totality of that research. Or you can be a level 1 thinker and only support a narrative that supports your narrow point of view. 

Oh please - more crybaby bs to justify your false beliefs.  wwaaaaaaa.    Funny too - blacks and browns from all over the world want to come here - but those born here somehow can find a way to manage.  Bunch of losers.  Go eat a cock and vote for hillary. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
The face of BLM is what again?  Michael Brown - fat loser and ghetto thug who assaulted a store owner - good he is dead.  Trayvon?  LOL - got iced by a fat mexican who cant fight and posted picks smoking weed.  Freddy Gray?  Thats it? 


So what else is this entire bogus nonsense movement based on?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 07, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
We don't need to empirical data to show what our country did to minorities.  The history is pretty obvious.  But to say the government oppresses minorities in today's America is just false. 

And the claim that law enforcement is murdering minorities is false. 

The government in itself is a set of ideals our country was founded on. Now the people who are charged with carrying out those ideals are flawed.. because they are human. But they represent the country. They are paid by the country. So they are accountable.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 01:11:07 PM
THIS.   Many 70 year old white dudes tend to be a little racist.  They act like they should win a Nobel Peace Prize for saying something nice about "my African-American over there".

How many govt offices you ever go to filled w 70 yo white dudes?  most are minorities, paraplegics, retards,  20-30-40 who cant get a job anywhere else or would otherwise be on welfare.  Govt employment is now reserved for people who really cant go anywhere else.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 01:12:24 PM
The government in itself is a set of ideals our country was founded on. Now the people who are charged with carrying out those ideals are flawed.. because they are human. But they represent the country. They are paid by the country. So they are accountable.

Like who?  Obama, Lorreta Lynch, Deblasio?  Who exactly?   Those you voted for moron.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 01:25:07 PM
I don't think government as an entity oppresses minorities, but individuals who work within government still do.

There are many instances where it has been proven to still happen today.

What individuals within government oppress minorities? 

There are many instances of discrimination by individuals in general.  The reason we know about that is we have government agencies that shine the light on those cockroaches.  They have to operate in the dark.  But that doesn't amount to oppression of minorities.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 01:28:21 PM
The government in itself is a set of ideals our country was founded on. Now the people who are charged with carrying out those ideals are flawed.. because they are human. But they represent the country. They are paid by the country. So they are accountable.

I agree. 

The ideals of our country can be found in laws prohibiting race discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations, and the numerous state and federal agencies that enforce those laws.  They can also be found in the plethora of opportunities for everyone, regardless of color, to get an education, learn a trade or profession, work, earn a living, own property, start a family, etc.  Hardly sounds like oppression to me.  This ain't the 1950s. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 01:29:07 PM
What individuals within government oppress minorities? 

There are many instances of discrimination by individuals in general.  The reason we know about that is we have government agencies that shine the light on those cockroaches.  They have to operate in the dark.  But that doesn't amount to oppression of minorities.   

Almost every govt agency i deal with is mostly populated by minorities.  So again - what are these people talking about?  The PD?  Which ones?  

NYPD?  LAPD ?  Most of these PD's have a lot of minortities.  And remember - minorities are minotiries not majorities - so of course they are not 50% plus in govt offices!!!!  

If they dont like it - FNG leave !!!  Go somewhere else if you feel so oppressed, which you are not.  Bunch on babies and whiners.  No one cares or listens any more.  Most people just look at them now like a bunch of lil boys who cried wolf one too many times at this point. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 01:33:26 PM
I agree. 

The ideals of our country can be found in laws prohibiting race discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations, and the numerous state and federal agencies that enforce those laws.  They can also be found in the plethora of opportunities for everyone, regardless of color, to get an education, learn a trade or profession, work, earn a living, own property, start a family, etc.  Hardly sounds like oppression to me.  This ain't the 1950s. 

Oh no - its always slave days for minorities - no matter what is done for them.  At this point - f em.  Enough is enough.  The training wheels need to be taken off.  This little experiment trying to fix past wrongs with cash, set asides, etc has not worked.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 01:39:01 PM
Almost every govt agency i deal with is mostly populated by minorities.  So again - what are these people talking about?  The PD?  Which ones?  

NYPD?  LAPD ?  Most of these PD's have a lot of minortities.  And remember - minorities are minotiries not majorities - so of course they are not 50% plus in govt offices!!!!  

If they dont like it - FNG leave !!!  Go somewhere else if you feel so oppressed, which you are not.  Bunch on babies and whiners.  No one cares or listens any more.  Most people just look at them now like a bunch of lil boys who cried wolf one too many times at this point. 

The problem with people crying wolf is people don't pay attention when there are legitimate problems to address. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 07, 2016, 01:43:21 PM
The problem with people crying wolf is people don't pay attention when there are legitimate problems to address. 

Yeah - im gonna give two craps about the same crew who burned down a city and hood over Michael Brown.   Yeah - ummm ok.   When that is the best you got - some worthless fat criminal pos - your cause is a joke. 

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 07, 2016, 01:59:16 PM
The troublemakers love putting people on tail-chasing escapades.  Keep it pointless and incomprehensible, and they're good.

The fact Michael Brown was made the main cause, tells everything.  With so many legit cases they could have used, they pick the one guy who was practically begging to be shot.

African-Americans should be the first to reject a ridiculous, fake organization like BLM.  They should be the first to reject ridiculous, fake activists like Al Sharpton.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 07, 2016, 02:05:37 PM
What individuals within government oppress minorities? 

There are many instances of discrimination by individuals in general.  The reason we know about that is we have government agencies that shine the light on those cockroaches.  They have to operate in the dark.  But that doesn't amount to oppression of minorities.   
These instances by individuals are sometimes large enough to create oppression in certain areas.

Remember. Government is huge now.

It's often the largest employer in many areas.

I'm not claiming government is trying to oppress minorities. I'm simply saying that there are individuals who work for government who do cause oppression.

The case of the SFPD is one of such. There are others of course.

I do believe they are not the majority of people, but when you take a group and give them some amount of authority and then they are themselves racist, then oppression naturally occurs in that area.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 02:14:22 PM
These instances by individuals are sometimes large enough to create oppression in certain areas.

Remember. Government is huge now.

It's often the largest employer in many areas.

I'm not claiming government is trying to oppress minorities. I'm simply saying that there are individuals who work for government who do cause oppression.

The case of the SFPD is one of such. There are others of course.

I do believe they are not the majority of people, but when you take a group and give them some amount of authority and then they are themselves racist, then oppression naturally occurs in that area.

Doesn't the fact we know about these comparative handful of individuals show that minorities are being protected?  We know about them because someone either filed a complaint or someone blew the whistle.  When that happens there are repercussions.  That's completely different from the era when people were denied access to facilities and education based on their race.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 07, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Doesn't the fact we know about these comparative handful of individuals show that minorities are being protected?  We know about them because someone either filed a complaint or someone blew the whistle.  When that happens there are repercussions.  That's completely different from the era when people were denied access to facilities and education based on their race.
I do believe that the vast majority of people are working to protect everyone. Minorities included, but that doesn't mean that the oppression is gone.

I personally believe that Trump has made it "ok" to show your racism again.

When was the last time you heard about the KKK or any other white supremacist group feeling justified in coming to the light?

This is only because of the current political cycle and those within it.
It saddens me.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2016, 03:51:23 PM
I do believe that the vast majority of people are working to protect everyone. Minorities included, but that doesn't mean that the oppression is gone.

I personally believe that Trump has made it "ok" to show your racism again.

When was the last time you heard about the KKK or any other white supremacist group feeling justified in coming to the light?

This is only because of the current political cycle and those within it.
It saddens me.

Maybe we have a different interpretation of oppression?  I view that as people being denied the ability to work, live, travel, etc.  In other words, the things we saw before the Civil Rights Movement. 

I cannot stand Trump, although I don't blame him for the fact David Duke and is ilk support him.  Maybe I missed it, but I haven't heard him support white supremacists.  He has said some racist things (like the Hispanic judge should be disqualified because of his race), but I don't think Trump is a racist.  He's just an undisciplined, privileged idiot.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 07, 2016, 04:11:12 PM
Maybe we have a different interpretation of oppression?  I view that as people being denied the ability to work, live, travel, etc.  In other words, the things we saw before the Civil Rights Movement. 

I cannot stand Trump, although I don't blame him for the fact David Duke and is ilk support him.  Maybe I missed it, but I haven't heard him support white supremacists.  He has said some racist things (like the Hispanic judge should be disqualified because of his race), but I don't think Trump is a racist.  He's just an undisciplined, privileged idiot.   

I don't think the definitions are completely different, but I think it's perhaps a difference in whether or not oppression exists in today's world.

I think people are denied the ability to work, live, and travel in small pockets.

Not as a huge issue, but it is still there.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 08, 2016, 05:55:13 AM
Has there been any change yet?

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 06:58:29 AM
Has there been any change yet?



Yeah - a bunch of morons are $100 out for buying a stupid fucking CNVTS jersey to show they are down w da cause
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 08, 2016, 08:20:26 AM
http://archive.is/Futig (http://archive.is/Futig)

Oh look... Climate Change is racist!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 08:21:18 AM
http://archive.is/Futig (http://archive.is/Futig)

Oh look... Climate Change is racist!

"Climate Change" is just another code word for communist redistribution of monies from 1st world countries to Turd world cesspools.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 08, 2016, 08:25:36 AM
I don't think the definitions are completely different, but I think it's perhaps a difference in whether or not oppression exists in today's world.

I think people are denied the ability to work, live, and travel in small pockets.

Not as a huge issue, but it is still there.

this...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 08:36:47 AM
this...


Small pockets, not huge , but we will act like its still 1950's and oppression is a big deal.

Face it is not.  Its a made up issue to explain away failure of certain groups to by and large function in civilized society.  Are black women being shot by cops?  Black business people to and from work? 

The only problem is w the thug ghetto criminal element - no one else.  The entire BLM movement is garbage.  its nonsense. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 09:42:17 AM
Small pockets, not huge , but we will act like its still 1950's and oppression is a big deal.

Face it is not.  Its a made up issue to explain away failure of certain groups to by and large function in civilized society.  Are black women being shot by cops?  Black business people to and from work? 

The only problem is w the thug ghetto criminal element - no one else.  The entire BLM movement is garbage.  its nonsense. 

Surely it's not huge, but it is still a problem. Shouldn't we be working so that it doesn't exist at all? Or is it ok just because it's not like the 50s anymore. (Which by the way is when Trump says America was last great)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 09:47:40 AM
Surely it's not huge, but it is still a problem. Shouldn't we be working so that it doesn't exist at all? Or is it ok just because it's not like the 50s anymore. (Which by the way is when Trump says America was last great)

We do!!!  All the damn time - we have EEOC, state, federal, local agencies just for diversity stuff, endless HR programs pushing this stuff, civil service affirmative action programs, set asides, quotas in construction, etc. 

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Skeeter on September 08, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
 ;D

"The Seattle Seahawks will become the first NFL team to join Colin Kaepernick’s silent protest during the national anthem this Sunday."

http://usuncut.com/resistance/entire-seattle-seahawks-roster-will-protest-national-anthem-sunda/ (http://usuncut.com/resistance/entire-seattle-seahawks-roster-will-protest-national-anthem-sunda/)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 09:53:05 AM
The entire premise of BLM is based on bs and fake narratives that the small minded dopes eat up.  It started w Michael Brown hands up dont shoot which in itself was a lie.  

Before that it was Trayvon - another stupid case that turned out to be a big fat nothing.  

And after - Freddy Gray - the cops were mostly black themselves!  The Da black, the mayor black, the Gov a democrat, etc.  and somehow this is all examples of racism against blacks?

Please - at some point it is ridiculous - and we are there now w this race obsession that knows no bounds ever.  
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 08, 2016, 10:28:04 AM
The Trayvon case wasn't BS, IMO.  But Brown was on a tear and due to be killed or ktfo or something, so isn't it odd that he's been the main name in all the BLM stuff.  Many, many others that could have and should have been put up instead of Brown.  I've seen very few things so ridiculous as that.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 08, 2016, 10:29:43 AM
Typical for USC, Carroll, and Seahawks.



The Seattle Seahawks will become the first NFL team to join Colin Kaepernick’s silent protest during the national anthem this Sunday.

In their home opener against the Miami Dolphins, the Seattle Seahawks have planned a “big surprise” during the national anthem, according to starting linebacker Bobby Wagner. Wagner emphasized that the entire roster will take part in the protest, though he didn’t specify if the team would sit or kneel.

“Anything we want to do, it’s not going to be individual. It’s going to be a team thing. That’s what the world needs to see. The world needs to see people coming together versus being individuals,” Wagner told the Seattle Times.

The team has the support of head coach Pete Carroll, who recently stood up for cornerback Jeremy Lane when he sat during the national anthem in solidarity with San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick last Thursday before Seattle’s final preseason game against the Oakland Raiders.

“[Lane]’s pretty clear on what he did and what he was trying to express and I think it is very simple and so we’ll leave that up to him,” Carroll told the Times.

In addition to Lane and Wagner, starting wide receiver Doug Baldwin has publicly expressed support for Kaepernick on social media. After Kaepernick started receiving blowback for refusing to stand up for the national anthem, Baldwin defended the protest and cast Kaepernick’s critics as ignorant of what free speech entails.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Skeeter on September 08, 2016, 10:37:46 AM
Typical for USC, Carroll, and Seahawks.



The Seattle Seahawks will become the first NFL team to join Colin Kaepernick’s silent protest during the national anthem this Sunday.

In their home opener against the Miami Dolphins, the Seattle Seahawks have planned a “big surprise” during the national anthem, according to starting linebacker Bobby Wagner. Wagner emphasized that the entire roster will take part in the protest, though he didn’t specify if the team would sit or kneel.

“Anything we want to do, it’s not going to be individual. It’s going to be a team thing. That’s what the world needs to see. The world needs to see people coming together versus being individuals,” Wagner told the Seattle Times.

The team has the support of head coach Pete Carroll, who recently stood up for cornerback Jeremy Lane when he sat during the national anthem in solidarity with San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick last Thursday before Seattle’s final preseason game against the Oakland Raiders.

“[Lane]’s pretty clear on what he did and what he was trying to express and I think it is very simple and so we’ll leave that up to him,” Carroll told the Times.

In addition to Lane and Wagner, starting wide receiver Doug Baldwin has publicly expressed support for Kaepernick on social media. After Kaepernick started receiving blowback for refusing to stand up for the national anthem, Baldwin defended the protest and cast Kaepernick’s critics as ignorant of what free speech entails.


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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
The Trayvon case wasn't BS, IMO.  But Brown was on a tear and due to be killed or ktfo or something, so isn't it odd that he's been the main name in all the BLM stuff.  Many, many others that could have and should have been put up instead of Brown.  I've seen very few things so ridiculous as that.
Agreed.

Let's say that today everyone decided to say Trayvon Martin or some other senseless death by police. (What about that 12 year old kid with a toy gun)

Would that still be bullshit?

Where do we stop and say, you know, there really is a disproportionate amount of black men killed by police from a percentage than white people.

Then where do you stop and say, ok, so where is the real problem?

I've said it before and I will say it again, black men being killed disproportionately to white men is a problem, but it is not the BIGGEST problem facing the black community.

So when does it stop being bullshit and start being a mathematical fact?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 10:58:22 AM
Agreed.

Let's say that today everyone decided to say Trayvon Martin or some other senseless death by police. (What about that 12 year old kid with a toy gun)

Would that still be bullshit?

Where do we stop and say, you know, there really is a disproportionate amount of black men killed by police from a percentage than white people.

Then where do you stop and say, ok, so where is the real problem?

I've said it before and I will say it again, black men being killed disproportionately to white men is a problem, but it is not the BIGGEST problem facing the black community.

So when does it stop being bullshit and start being a mathematical fact?

Most of these cases are widely publicized and discussed forever.   Most are nonsense and has the persons behavior as a factor.   Not all but most
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 11:00:22 AM
Most of these cases are widely publicized and discussed forever.   Most are nonsense and has the persons behavior as a factor.   Not all but most
Would you say there is an acceptable number of times that black men can be killed even though they are doing nothing wrong?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 11:43:04 AM
Would you say there is an acceptable number of times that black men can be killed even though they are doing nothing wrong?

That's a ridiculous question.  It's never ok but it's not as if blacks are the only ones and secondly , most of these cases have mitigating factors such as the persons behavior.  Again not all.  But in a country of 315 million - shot gonna happen regardless
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 11:45:21 AM
That's a ridiculous question.  It's never ok but it's not as if blacks are the only ones and secondly , most of these cases have mitigating factors such as the persons behavior.  Again not all.  But in a country of 315 million - shot gonna happen regardless

No, they are not the only ones, but would you say they are treated equally? I mean, the percentages state that they are disproportionately killed compared to white people, at a pretty high rate.

Surely that cannot all be attributed to behavior.

Some of course, but not all.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 08, 2016, 11:50:09 AM
We need cops who have at least a fragment of brain.  Instead, we have a bunch of seriously stupid, cowardly shits running around these streets.  When they work the dangerous neighborhoods you just know something's gotta give.

Remember that harebrained idiot telling the guy to get his license, then he fucking opens fire on him as he follows the command?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
No, they are not the only ones, but would you say they are treated equally? I mean, the percentages state that they are disproportionately killed compared to white people, at a pretty high rate.

Surely that cannot all be attributed to behavior.

Some of course, but not all.

Yes behavior.  
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 11:56:23 AM
Yes behavior.  


All is behavior. I see. So it's 100 percent that.

Got it.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 12:12:30 PM

All is behavior. I see. So it's 100 percent that.

Got it.

No most.   Most of these cases involve resisting arrest , fleeing , disobeying lawful orders etc.   are others result of negligence ? Sure.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 12:13:12 PM
No most.   Most of these cases involve resisting arrest , fleeing , disobeying lawful orders etc.   are others result of negligence ? Sure.   

What do you think the percentage is?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 08, 2016, 12:20:26 PM
What do you think the percentage is?

I have no idea - but the % is small and its not just blacks.   The WAPO released a study i believe recently that said blacks are killed less frequemnt;ly than whites - ill find it. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 08, 2016, 12:21:10 PM
I have no idea - but the % is small and its not just blacks.   The WAPO released a study i believe recently that said blacks are killed less frequemnt;ly than whites - ill find it. 

The numbers I believe will say that, but percentage wise, it's very skewed the other way.

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 12, 2016, 06:47:51 PM
Broncos' Brandon Marshall loses 2nd endorsement, will meet with Denver police chief
Jeff Legwold
ESPN Senior Writer

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Denver Broncos linebacker Brandon Marshall is still standing up for his right to kneel during the national anthem, but his decision continues to hit him financially.

Marshall, who knelt during "The Star-Spangled Banner" in Thursday night's season opener against the Carolina Panthers, said following Broncos practice Monday that he recently lost his second endorsement deal since he took a knee.

The Air Academy Federal Credit Union parted ways with him shortly after Thursday's game, and on Monday, Marshall said CenturyLink, a cable/communications company, has ended its agreement with him.

Marshall said he had been signed on to promote the company's television and internet service.

"I just lost another endorsement,'' Marshall said. "But it's not going to make me lose any sleep. ... I understand there will be things that come up, criticism and support. I just have to do what I think is right.''

CenturyLink released a statement saying the company "completely [respects] Brandon Marshall's personal decision and right to take an action to support something in which he strongly believes.

"America is anchored in the right of individuals to express their beliefs. While we acknowledge Brandon's right, we also believe that whatever issues we face, we also occasionally must stand together to show our allegiance to our common bond as a nation. In our view, the national anthem is one of those moments. For this reason, while we wish Brandon the best this season, we are politely terminating our agreement with him."

Marshall also said he will meet with Denver police chief Robert C. White on Tuesday and with members of Denver's police union, the Denver Police Protective Association.

Marshall said he has heard from plenty of folks on both sides of what is now a national debate, and he's "trying to start a conversation ... based on social awareness.''

Broncos linebacker Brandon Marshall (left) has lost two endorsement deals as a result of kneeling during the national anthem in last week's season opener against the Panthers. AP Photo/Joe Mahoney

He said he continues to receives messages of support and criticism for his actions and that he "absolutely'' understands the passion of those who have either criticized him or supported him in recent days.

Marshall said he continues to monitor social media to see how people are reacting.

"Absolutely, a lot of it is military based because I read a lot of the comments that say, 'stay up for the people that fought for your right to stand,' but then the people that I talk to that are in the military say, 'I fought for your right to stand or sit, I fought for all your rights, so I support you,''' Marshall said. "Everybody doesn't believe that, but some people who actually serve this country do believe that."

On the prospect of some teammates opting to kneel during the anthem in future games, Marshall said: "It's cool if they do, I respect them for that, and it's cool if they don't. I respect that.''

Marshall and San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who was the first player in the league to sit during the national anthem this season, were teammates at the University of Nevada.

"I talked to Colin Kaepernick and he said that he appreciated what I did,'' Marshall said. "... He said he was trying to get some things in place that would change some laws ... donating to organizations doing work at the ground level. One of my endgames [is] I will try to create a program that goes with that as well.''

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17531965/denver-broncos-linebacker-brandon-marshall-loses-second-endorsement-national-anthem-controversy
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 13, 2016, 03:49:10 AM

"I talked to Colin Kaepernick and he said that he appreciated what I did,'' Marshall said. "... He said he was trying to get some things in place that would change some laws ''


"Get some things in place that would change some laws."

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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2016, 06:02:02 PM
Amen! Catholics do what NFL refuses to do: Stand up for America
By  Todd Starnes 
Published September 13, 2016
FoxNews.com

The Diocese of Camden, New Jersey has a message for high school football players: either respect the National Anthem or be prepared to ride the bench.

Any player or coach for high school sports teams in the diocese who does not “demonstrate appropriate respect” during the Star-Spangled Banner will be subject to a two-game suspension, Philly.com reports.

The Catholics are doing what the National Football League refuses to do.

“Our schools are founded on the teaching of respect and honor; respect and honor for God, country and duly appointed authority,” Supt. Mary Boyle wrote to Catholic high schools in the diocese. “The best approach is helping our young people understand that blood was sacrificed so that we all can enjoy the gifts of our faith and our country.”

Players, coaches and administrators are expected to show respect during prayer, pledges and the playing of the national anthem, she declared.

“Failure to demonstrate appropriate respect will result in suspension from play (2 games) or dismissal from the team for subsequent offense,” she wrote.

Bishop Eustace’s football team requires young men to stand at attention.

“Helmet under left arm. Stand straight. Chest out. Eyes ahead,” assistant athletic director Frank DelRossi told the newspaper. “We think it’s important, and our kids do too.”

The Catholics don't mess around, folks.

In recent days -- many professional football players have demonstrated contempt for the Armed Forces as well as our national anthem.

The disgraceful trend was started by San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kapernick – who refused to stand as a way of protesting perceived racial oppression and inequality.

Mr. Kaepernick is a self-center, unpatriotic dunderhead. But to be fair -- it's hard for a football player to stand up for America when he's got his head up his hindquarters.

To be clear -- professional football players have a Constitutional right to demonstrate their hatred of America. They have a right to denigrate our troops and desecrate the flag.

But we have rights, too. We have the right to boycott their games along with the corporate sponsors who finance their anti-American platforms.

Eli Harold, a 49ers teammate who raised his fist in defiance of our nation, told ESPN he was furious that fans objected to the protest.

“What really pissed me off was when Kap was getting snaps at the end of the game and the crowd was booing,” he told ESPN. “I’m not throwing shots at our fans. It’s not about that. Liberty and justice for all. Just because this man is standing up for something he believes in doesn’t give you the right to boo him. I just don’t understand it, man. I really don’t.”

Eli Harold, you dolt, it’s called the First Amendment. Fans most certainly do have the right to boo and heckle and boycott.

Now you understand why so many people are disgusted with the National Football League.

And that’s why it was so refreshing to hear about the edict handed down by the Diocese of Camden. They are teaching young men to be patriots -- men of honor and duty. It’s instruction that’s badly needed in the National Football League.

Maybe the diocese could send a delegation of nuns to the next 49ers game -- armed with rulers.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/09/13/amen-catholics-do-what-nfl-refuses-to-do-stand-up-for-america.html
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 14, 2016, 03:51:58 AM
Has there been any change yet?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 14, 2016, 06:02:50 AM


The Catholics don't mess around, folks.




Phrasing
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2016, 07:32:16 AM
What is this crybaby protesting about ?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 14, 2016, 11:27:45 AM
What is this crybaby protesting about ?

i think he said something about midget retards from NYC posting utter nonsense on Getbig...
i think...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
i think he said something about midget retards from NYC posting utter nonsense on Getbig...
i think...

Funny - cause no one gives a F whatsoever about BLM or its fake cause any more
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2016, 05:29:26 PM
What is this crybaby protesting about ?

I don't know and I doubt he knows.  This is nothing like the Civil Rights Movement, when people of different races joined to push for the repeal of laws and practices that were unquestionably discriminatory and for passage of laws to protect everyone from discrimination. 

What is Kaepernick pushing for?  Specifically? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2016, 05:36:16 PM
These guys never think to come up with specific demands.

But then again, that would probably be the surest way for him to find out that sitting on his butt is only worth so much as a bargaining chip.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 14, 2016, 05:49:34 PM
What is Kaepernick pushing for?  Specifically? 

He was close to getting cut, because he's not that effective as a speed threat and his throwing confidence is shot.

So he decided the best way to ensure job security was to say/do some polarizing shit which 1/2 of the fans would love, and 1/2 would hate.   Maybe not half.  But a very enthusiastic fraction of fans believe police are beating up black people for fun, and other cops are covering it up.

Kap decided to shit on the national anthem to point this out, and keep it going until some vague rubric of reduction in police beatdowns happened.

now if they cut him, everyone will blame their front office.

And it's not just the national anthem - he wore cop piggie socks. He's just anti-police at this point, not anti-violence.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2016, 05:53:56 PM
He was close to getting cut, because he's not that effective as a speed threat and his throwing confidence is shot.

So he decided the best way to ensure job security was to say/do some polarizing shit which 1/2 of the fans would love, and 1/2 would hate.   Maybe not half.  But a very enthusiastic fraction of fans believe police are beating up black people for fun, and other cops are covering it up.

Kap decided to shit on the national anthem to point this out, and keep it going until some vague rubric of reduction in police beatdowns happened.

now if they cut him, everyone will blame their front office.

And it's not just the national anthem - he wore cop piggie socks. He's just anti-police at this point, not anti-violence.

 ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2016, 05:54:47 PM
These guys never think to come up with specific demands.

But then again, that would probably be the surest way for him to find out that sitting on his butt is only worth so much as a bargaining chip.

I think he was just being a militant idiot and didn't realize what a firestorm it would cause. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2016, 05:59:51 PM
I think he was just being a militant idiot and didn't realize what a firestorm it would cause. 

He could be trying to create a "reason" for a firing he figured/figures as inevitable, too.  I've heard that and it doesn't sound too far fetched.

But the guy seems really dumb and nothing would surprise me.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2016, 06:05:03 PM
He could be trying to create a "reason" for a firing he figured/figures as inevitable, too.  I've heard that and it doesn't sound too far fetched.

But the guy seems really dumb and nothing would surprise me.

Meh.  Doesn't make sense for him to try and get cut. 

He's not dumb.  He was a great high school student.  Got his degree at Nevada.  Was never in trouble.  Had an incredible two-year run with the Niners.  Then the bottom fell out. 

I think it's more him getting involved in that BLM movement and not knowing what the heck he's really protesting. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2016, 06:30:19 PM
Meh.  Doesn't make sense for him to try and get cut. 

He's not dumb.  He was a great high school student.  Got his degree at Nevada.  Was never in trouble.  Had an incredible two-year run with the Niners.  Then the bottom fell out. 

I think it's more him getting involved in that BLM movement and not knowing what the heck he's really protesting. 

No, I mean that he'd use this as the "real reason" for any fallout from his diminished playing.  But you're probably right.

And I know he isn't dumb, since QBing takes brains and he made it far doing that.  So not sure why he acts like a dummy.

IMO, the whole BLM and all these other modern protests seem to lack specific demands.  Very strange, to say nothing of pointless.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2016, 10:08:24 AM
No, I mean that he'd use this as the "real reason" for any fallout from his diminished playing.  But you're probably right.

And I know he isn't dumb, since QBing takes brains and he made it far doing that.  So not sure why he acts like a dummy.

IMO, the whole BLM and all these other modern protests seem to lack specific demands.  Very strange, to say nothing of pointless.

Oh they have specific demands, but those demands are friggin stupid. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 10:21:23 AM
Oh they have specific demands, but those demands are friggin stupid. 

Demands like "end racism now" and stuff, or what?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2016, 10:22:53 AM
Demands like "end racism now" and stuff, or what?

Stuff like reparations for slavery, shutting down police departments (or something dumb like that).  Check their website.  Ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 15, 2016, 10:25:42 AM
Stuff like reparations for slavery, shutting down police departments (or something dumb like that).  Check their website.  Ridiculous. 

And fools like Option FAIL eat it up - how gullible. 

I had an event this weekend and we were walking through Harlem w a USA flag at like 2am and a bunch of thugs and hookers were yelling BLM at us.  Streets filled with garbage and trash, poverty, rats, dirt, and these idiots are screaming BLM.

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 10:39:05 AM
Yeah, I'm not seeing much for demands made.  I saw something about reparations in a general search, but the website is just a collection of word-salad like "Globalism: We see ourselves as part of the global Black family and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black folk who exist in different parts of the world."

If it were run by legits and not plants, they'd link individual protests with specific demands such as certain officers being removed, etc.  They'd need to carefully pick their fights, of course, but I'd hope that isn't too inconvenient for them.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 15, 2016, 10:43:21 AM
And fools like Option FAIL eat it up - how gullible. 

I had an event this weekend and we were walking through Harlem w a USA flag at like 2am and a bunch of thugs and hookers were yelling BLM at us.  Streets filled with garbage and trash, poverty, rats, dirt, and these idiots are screaming BLM.



I'm not sure Option D knows what the protest is all about either.  Or does he? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 10:50:15 AM
Yeah, these stupid shits.  Best way to get the majority on your side is to have reasonable, easily-understood demands.

Either these clowns want to make change or they don't.

So which is it?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 10:51:31 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 11:03:15 AM
Someone should jack one of these blm "leaders" against a wall and find out exactly what they think they're up to.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 15, 2016, 06:24:37 PM
Someone should jack one of these blm "leaders" against a wall and find out exactly what they think they're up to.

I'd like to watch someone from BLM fuck your mouth against your will.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 06:31:54 PM
^ I'm sure you'd absolutely love to see something like that, fruitface, but that's another story.

Do you have an answer as to why no workable demands?



Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 15, 2016, 07:14:41 PM
Come on, BLMers.  Show us you know more than prison talk.   ;D

Seriously, explain BLM.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: bailey on September 15, 2016, 07:51:29 PM
People with no jobs who can just protest all day for no reason. Or the right reason! BLM EXPLAINED!!!!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Erik C on September 15, 2016, 08:09:23 PM
He looks white, but is mixed race, and got the negro brain.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: bailey on September 15, 2016, 08:17:46 PM
Don't forget " Hands up don't shoot " ( that never even happened ) some seriously mentally inept people!! Not to mention the video of the thug robbing the store before he attacked a cop. And he is their hero. ::) some dumb ass people! Fact!!!!! :-\
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 16, 2016, 04:18:34 AM
(http://downtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/AP250522607462.jpg)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 16, 2016, 01:08:36 PM
No, there is a very serious problem with LEO in this nation.

So the question is why the BLM leaders conduct the organization in a way to make everything worse.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 16, 2016, 01:36:51 PM
In honor Colin Kaepernick, who will be kneeling on Sunday, then sitting on the bench, here is an outstanding rendition:

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 16, 2016, 02:11:28 PM
In honor Colin Kaepernick, who will be kneeling on Sunday, then sitting on the bench, here is an outstanding rendition:



Oh, yeah.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on September 16, 2016, 05:51:35 PM
No, there is a very serious problem with LEO in this nation.

Not really. Problem with lawless knuckleheads is all.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 17, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
Not really. Problem with lawless knuckleheads is all.

That's another way to put it, yes.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 19, 2016, 12:16:16 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: James on September 19, 2016, 12:20:04 PM
:D

2 democrats.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 20, 2016, 04:38:46 AM
Someone should jack one of these blm "leaders" against a wall and find out exactly what they think they're up to.

They don't know.  They can't describe their own protest without a flimsy excuse for doing it and nothing it.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 20, 2016, 08:03:57 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/disturbing-helicopter-footage-shows-oklahoma-police-kill-unarmed-man-n650866


maybe hes talking about shit like this...

this lady will get the same treatment as the guy that shot Castile, Choked Gardner, shot Rice... and on and on.

Watch the video and come up with your excuse on why this guy with his hands up got shot... this is going to be good.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: James on September 20, 2016, 08:30:15 AM
Video of THUG BLACK MOM She's Crazy



Hope and Change !
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 20, 2016, 08:33:16 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/disturbing-helicopter-footage-shows-oklahoma-police-kill-unarmed-man-n650866


maybe hes talking about shit like this...

this lady will get the same treatment as the guy that shot Castile, Choked Gardner, shot Rice... and on and on.

Watch the video and come up with your excuse on why this guy with his hands up got shot... this is going to be good.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 20, 2016, 08:35:13 AM
Video of THUG BLACK MOM She's Crazy



Hope and Change !
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: James on September 20, 2016, 08:47:33 AM
Horrifying video shows moment gang of schoolgirl bullies savagely beat 15-year-old girl on the ground in random attack.

Video:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1809087/teen-15-suffers-horrific-injuries-in-attack-by-gang-of-girl-bullies-acting-like-animals/
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 20, 2016, 11:01:54 AM


So should I start protesting every time a colored does some bullshit and make a national issue of it ?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 21, 2016, 10:32:15 AM
They don't know.  They can't describe their own protest without a flimsy excuse for doing it and nothing it.

Yeah, I can't disagree.  Just a reckless, meaningless bunch of trouble as a form of protest -- then they go on to succeed at only one thing as an organization: turning a substantial percentage of people outside the organization against them.

Like I say, would be interesting to get one of their "leaders" and find out who they're working for.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 21, 2016, 10:33:03 AM
Yeah, I can't disagree.  Just a reckless, meaningless bunch of trouble as a form of protest -- then they go on to succeed at only one thing as an organization: turning a substantial percentage of people outside the organization against them.

Like I say, would be interesting to get one of their "leaders" and find out who they're working for.

There is proof that BLM is funded by George Soros. I'll post the info if I find it.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2016, 10:40:01 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/disturbing-helicopter-footage-shows-oklahoma-police-kill-unarmed-man-n650866


maybe hes talking about shit like this...

this lady will get the same treatment as the guy that shot Castile, Choked Gardner, shot Rice... and on and on.

Watch the video and come up with your excuse on why this guy with his hands up got shot... this is going to be good.

He was talking about Michael Brown and others who were responsible for their own deaths. 

The video in this instance looks pretty bad, but I'm waiting till we know all of the facts before forming an opinion, unlike the mob mentality sweeping the country.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 21, 2016, 10:44:15 AM
Even the Eric Garner case would have been better example to use than Brown's, by far.  The fact Brown seems to have been chosen is just one more reason to believe someone is trying to short-circuit the movement.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 21, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
The video in this instance looks pretty bad, but I'm waiting till we know all of the facts before forming an opinion, unlike the mob mentality sweeping the country.


trump made up his mind.  said twice that the cop choked.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 21, 2016, 02:22:31 PM
Poll: Niners QB Colin Kaepernick most disliked player in league
Darren Rovell
ESPN Senior Writer

Colin Kaepernick is now the most disliked player in the NFL.

That's at least according to a recent poll of Americans by E-Poll Marketing Research, which asked 1,100 people whose demographics were representative of the general population.

The poll, taken last week, revealed that Kaepernick was "disliked a lot" by 29 percent of those polled, more than any of the more than 350 players asked about in the survey. Kaepernick finished ahead, in the dislike category, of Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston (22 percent), Miami Dolphins defensive end Ndamukong Suh (21 percent), New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (13 percent) and Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (10 percent).

In August 2014, the last time the poll was taken, Kaepernick -- fresh off leading the San Francisco 49ers to the NFC Championship Game before losing to the Seattle Seahawks -- was only "disliked a lot" by 6 percent of the population.

The overall negative sentiment for Kaepernick is even higher among NFL fans. Today, 36 percent say they dislike him "a lot," up from just 10 percent when last asked two years ago.

While results of the poll show Kaepernick being more disliked by the general population, much of that has to do with the fact that African-Americans only make up 15 percent of the U.S. population. Kaepernick hasn't been standing during the national anthem to show his displeasure with the treatment of African-Americans by police officers.

Among African-Americans, Kaepernick has never been more popular. The poll shows 42 percent of African-Americans now say they like the 49ers quarterback "a lot," while only 2 percent dislike him "a lot." Two years ago, only 16 percent of African-Americans said they liked Kaepernick "a lot," while 3 percent disliked him "a lot."

A poll conducted by E-Poll Marketing Research revealed that 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick (center) was "disliked a lot" by 29 percent of those polled, more than any other NFL player asked about in the survey. Streeter Lecka/Getty Images

Much of the change in sentiment comes from how Caucasians feel about him.

Two years ago, only 7 percent of Caucasians said they disliked Kaepernick "a lot." Last week, that number had jumped to 37 percent.

As Kaepernick's actions were focused on, sales of his jersey skyrocketed to the best-selling jersey in the league for a couple days in the beginning of the month.

"Jersey sales represents a metric which shows how he has inspired a number of people who show support by opening up their wallet," said Gerry Philpott, CEO of E-Poll. "There is no counter-metric that you can use for those who he has alienated or had never heard of him before, other than the sentiment we measured."

Kaepernick's highly publicized stand has obviously made him more relevant, even though he's the backup to Blaine Gabbert and isn't getting time on the field.

Only 24 percent of people said they knew his name two years ago. Last week, 42 percent of those polled were familiar.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17604958/san-francisco-49ers-qb-colin-kaepernick-most-disliked-player-nfl-according-poll-e-poll-marketing-research
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on September 22, 2016, 07:16:21 AM
Well, there clearly hasn't been change yet.... maybe he should lie down in the middle of the field and see if that works?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 22, 2016, 08:01:30 AM
So should I start protesting every time a colored does some bullshit and make a national issue of it ?

Nice.. dead man... colored person... nice...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 22, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Nice.. dead man... colored person... nice...

Look - im not a fan of the police state one bit - but i also know my experience on the streets.   And my language was going off of what Kalperfag says.  So im pretty damn confused right now what those faggets at BLM want, etc.,

How about all these douchebag crybabies STFU - go to work ,stay in school, after said work and/or shcool go lift or take care of their legions of progeny, and stay home and stay out of trouble? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 22, 2016, 01:29:18 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 23, 2016, 06:39:49 AM
Look - im not a fan of the police state one bit - but i also know my experience on the streets.   And my language was going off of what Kalperfag says.  So im pretty damn confused right now what those faggets at BLM want, etc.,

How about all these douchebag crybabies STFU - go to work ,stay in school, after said work and/or shcool go lift or take care of their legions of progeny, and stay home and stay out of trouble? 

but if their car stalls...they might die...
or if the lunch guy is told by the officer to get his ID... he might die.

believe me.. all blacks want is to go to work and school.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 23, 2016, 07:23:30 AM
but if their car stalls...they might die...
or if the lunch guy is told by the officer to get his ID... he might die.

believe me.. all blacks want is to go to work and school.

And that shouldnt happen.  Agree 100%.  Seems to me however - that if your time is occupied with Family - Work - Gym - chances of this shit happening are much much less. 

And guess what - true story - 3 weeks ago - I have a V Force Weight Vest (Best one there is BTW) and I was out on a ruck, I live in pretty urban area and try to stick to off roads if I can if i know im doing a long Ruck or training session, but cant avoid the urban jungle most of the time. 

i'm just walking down the street, headphones on, anyway - 2 cop cars and an ambulence roll up on me HARD.  Cop gets out tells me to freeze - has hand on weapon, etc.  Someone called in dangerous looking man with bomb walking down street.  Crowd is looking on.  Cop is yelling at me - i stay calm - i tell him - officer - its weight training vest, can i get my id for you?  He was like 'What?"  I said yeah - a weight training vest - and he was like - for F's sake bro - someone called in an APB on your ass.  Now - i had on desert tan combat boots, the vest, a shirt w backward american flag, under armour black hat, etc - so to me - im looking like a fool - but not dangerous - and we laughed about it after i gave id - told him i knew one of his bros on the force, etc.  Lesson being - dont be a dick to the cops.  Then i went into Chipolte and the ambulence crew that rolled up on me were there - and were laughing like - bro - we called for the stupidist shit. 

Now if it were you - yeah - you probably would be shot dead on sight and the cops given a medal.  Me - we have a good laugh. 

Moral of the story is - not sure - just thought it was funny what happened and general public is really fat and dumb.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: 240 is Back on September 23, 2016, 07:50:16 AM
And that shouldnt happen.  Agree 100%.  Seems to me however - that if your time is occupied with Family - Work - Gym - chances of this shit happening are much much less. 

And guess what - true story - 3 weeks ago - I have a V Force Weight Vest (Best one there is BTW) and I was out on a ruck, I live in pretty urban area and try to stick to off roads if I can if i know im doing a long Ruck or training session, but cant avoid the urban jungle most of the time. 

i'm just walking down the street, headphones on, anyway - 2 cop cars and an ambulence roll up on me HARD.  Cop gets out tells me to freeze - has hand on weapon, etc.  Someone called in dangerous looking man with bomb walking down street.  Crowd is looking on.  Cop is yelling at me - i stay calm - i tell him - officer - its weight training vest, can i get my id for you?  He was like 'What?"  I said yeah - a weight training vest - and he was like - for F's sake bro - someone called in an APB on your ass.  Now - i had on desert tan combat boots, the vest, a shirt w backward american flag, under armour black hat, etc - so to me - im looking like a fool - but not dangerous - and we laughed about it after i gave id - told him i knew one of his bros on the force, etc.  Lesson being - dont be a dick to the cops.  Then i went into Chipolte and the ambulence crew that rolled up on me were there - and were laughing like - bro - we called for the stupidist shit. 

Now if it were you - yeah - you probably would be shot dead on sight and the cops given a medal.  Me - we have a good laugh. 

Moral of the story is - not sure - just thought it was funny what happened and general public is really fat and dumb.   

haha that's an awesome story.  well handled!   Appearance does matter... bald white dude with a USA shirt... vs a minority wearing a scary looking shirt, using broken english... i could have seen a scared Betty cop just firing because your voice was weird and scary and you didn't put her at ease fast enough. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The Ugly on September 23, 2016, 08:46:16 AM
but if their car stalls...they might die...
or if the lunch guy is told by the officer to get his ID... he might die.

believe me.. all blacks want is to go to work and school.

 :)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 23, 2016, 05:36:13 PM
but if their car stalls...they might die...
or if the lunch guy is told by the officer to get his ID... he might die.


Not true.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on September 27, 2016, 06:47:16 PM
Not true.

it is what happened.... there was a witness... he was Philando was ordered to reach for his wallet and when he did... he was shot... thats an eye witness account.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2016, 06:59:39 PM
it is what happened.... there was a witness... he was Philando was ordered to reach for his wallet and when he did... he was shot... thats an eye witness account.

I was really talking about the broader point you were trying to make.  Cops are not just going around shooting those folks.  This entire controversy is crazy.  Legitimizing bad behavior and poor life choices.  (See Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc.)  But a lot of people are afraid to speak the uncomfortable truth because they will get branded as racist, etc.   

But what particular case are you talking about? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on September 27, 2016, 07:17:10 PM
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 27, 2016, 07:32:44 PM
I was really talking about the broader point you were trying to make.  Cops are not just going around shooting those folks.  This entire controversy is crazy.  Legitimizing bad behavior and poor life choices.  (See Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc.)  But a lot of people are afraid to speak the uncomfortable truth because they will get branded as racist, etc.   

But what particular case are you talking about? 

Why bring him into this, of all people you could use as an example?

Btw, there was something like Option D mentioned that was recorded on cam (in one of the Carolinas, of course) a little while back.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2016, 07:41:29 PM
Why bring him into this, of all people you could use as an example?

Btw, there was something like Option D mentioned that was recorded on cam (in one of the Carolinas, of course) a little while back.

Because he's central to this entire movement and is one of those young men who made a series of poor life choices that caused his own death.   

Not sure what case you're talking about.  I do recall one where the cop shot a dude in the back from distance and then appeared to move a weapon close to the body after he shot him, and was appropriately charged with murder.  Not sure how the case turned out. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 28, 2016, 01:28:57 PM
Because he's central to this entire movement and is one of those young men who made a series of poor life choices that caused his own death.

Brown, yes imo.  Martin, no.

Zimmerman's claim to the PD that he "forgot" he "had the gun" and furthermore that he did "the whole time" -- doesn't fit with the fact that he claimed, several times, to be scared during the period in question.

That tells me he's lying about the gun, and there's only one reason he'd do that.   

Quote
Not sure what case you're talking about.  I do recall one where the cop shot a dude in the back from distance and then appeared to move a weapon close to the body after he shot him, and was appropriately charged with murder.  Not sure how the case turned out. 

No, it's a different one.  The cop told the guy to produce ID, and then opened fire on him.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2016, 02:17:44 PM
Brown, yes imo.  Martin, no.

Zimmerman's claim to the PD that he "forgot" he "had the gun" and furthermore that he did "the whole time" -- doesn't fit with the fact that he claimed, several times, to be scared during the period in question.

That tells me he's lying about the gun, and there's only one reason he'd do that.   

No, it's a different one.  The cop told the guy to produce ID, and then opened fire on him.

Regarding Martin, that horse is dead.  The facts don't agree with you.  The evidence at trial doesn't agree with you.  The jury didn't agree with you.  It's over.  That kid was responsible for his own death.  He made a series of poor life choices that ended with his tragic death.  That should be the primary lesson coming out of all of this.

What is the name of the case involving the person who was told to produce his ID?   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 28, 2016, 02:48:24 PM
Regarding Martin, that horse is dead.  The facts don't agree with you.  The evidence at trial doesn't agree with you.  The jury didn't agree with you.  It's over.  That kid was responsible for his own death.  He made a series of poor life choices that ended with his tragic death.  That should be the primary lesson coming out of all of this.

He wasn't challenged on it at all that I'm aware of, from the moment he said it to the detective and on to this day.

Quote
What is the name of the case involving the person who was told to produce his ID?   

I'll try to find it later, but I believe the guy's name is Jones and the cop's name is similar to Joubert.  There is a video, for sure.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 28, 2016, 04:21:34 PM
Anyway, this is the one I'm thinking about.  Not sure if this is the case Option D meant, but plenty to choose from.



A real Nervous Nellie who shouldn't be driving a damn car, forget about carrying a gun.  And I believe he went on to lie about what happened.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 28, 2016, 04:40:53 PM
Anyway, this is the one I'm thinking about.  Not sure if this is the case Option D meant, but plenty to choose from.



A real Nervous Nellie who shouldn't be driving a damn car, forget about carrying a gun.  And I believe he went on to lie about what happened.

Pretty bad.  I think it would have been different if the cop pulled the guy over for some alleged violent crime.  But a traffic/seatbelt violation?  He needs to go to jail.  Sounds like he will.  

That said, is there any evidence this was a racially motivated shooting?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Skeletor on September 28, 2016, 04:52:45 PM
Anyway, this is the one I'm thinking about.  Not sure if this is the case Option D meant, but plenty to choose from.



A real Nervous Nellie who shouldn't be driving a damn car, forget about carrying a gun.  And I believe he went on to lie about what happened.

Despite the fact that yet another dangerous and violent uniformed criminal like this one, pleaded guilty 6 months ago, no sentencing date has been announced. And this case is just one of many, there have been more egregious cases where the criminals have walked away without any punishment.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 28, 2016, 05:27:01 PM
Skeletor, just read that Groubert and his wife were charged with shoplifting last year, too.  That's "still pending" like everything else with him.

DE, I don't know of anything to say it definitely can be blamed on racism (but haven't looked).  As high-strung as the guy acted, I'd imagine there are at least a few light-skinned men he'd have shot at, too.  He's a mental mess, imo, and that's his problem.  So if he's a racist on top of that, then it really shouldn't be a shock to anyone.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: The True Adonis on September 28, 2016, 06:20:02 PM
Brown, yes imo.  Martin, no.

Zimmerman's claim to the PD that he "forgot" he "had the gun" and furthermore that he did "the whole time" -- doesn't fit with the fact that he claimed, several times, to be scared during the period in question.

That tells me he's lying about the gun, and there's only one reason he'd do that.   

No, it's a different one.  The cop told the guy to produce ID, and then opened fire on him.
Trayvon Martin deserved it when he decided to attack Zimmerman and then proceed to beat him while he was on top of him.  Defending yourself with a firearm is what you are supposed to do in situations like that.  No idea how anyone could pretzel themself into an alternate explanation.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 28, 2016, 08:18:02 PM
Trayvon Martin deserved it when he decided to attack Zimmerman and then proceed to beat him while he was on top of him.  Defending yourself with a firearm is what you are supposed to do in situations like that.  No idea how anyone could pretzel themself into an alternate explanation.

Absolutely.  And I have no doubt that Zimmerman had that exact hedge in mind, which is one thing that makes his claim completely unbelievable.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 28, 2016, 08:23:36 PM
Even the Gardner case would have been better example to use than Brown's.  The fact Brown seems to have been chosen is just one more reason to believe someone is trying to short-circuit the movement.

Garner was the guy's name.  Eric Garner.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Princess L on September 28, 2016, 09:28:59 PM
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VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WLS) --
A photo of San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick's jersey sparked a debate about free speech over the weekend.

James Perry, of Virginia Beach, Va., posted the photo to Facebook on Saturday. He said when he walked into Krossroads Rock and Country Bar, he saw Kaepernick's jersey taped to the floor, like a doormat.

Perry was angered by what he saw. In his post, he said, "Would we be wrong to (tape) a police officer uniform to an entrance of an establishment? This young man is exercising his constitutional right and is being villianize for it."

Kaepernick has chosen to kneel during the playing of the national anthem at NFL games, in protest of the racial injustice he sees in America.

Perry said taping Kaepernick's jersey to the floor was a "racist" and disgusting act, which other NFL players were not subjected to, even though they were accused of criminal acts.

"Didn't hit his wife, didn't rape nobody, didn't get caught abusing drugs or get charged and cleared for murdering two people and did not shoot any unarmed citizens. But yet, his jersey is being used as a foot mat," Perry wrote.

"He's just been villainized and ostracized and being disrespected to the utmost, where his jersey is taped to the front entrance of a public establishment. What if this was a soldier's uniform taped to the floor? Or a police officer's uniform taped to the floor? It'd be a riot. And I was really outraged by that," Perry told ABC7 Eyewitness News.

Perry's post has been shared nearly 5,400 times.

The jersey was reportedly removed from the floor as of Monday afternoon.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/kaepernick-jersey-taped-to-restaurant-floor/1527261/

https://www.facebook.com/james.perry.12576?fref=nf

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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Super Natural on September 29, 2016, 02:01:56 AM
"Black people in the USA are oppressed"  

68% of the NFL is black on huge contracts.


Yes, very oppressed  ::)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SquidVicious on September 29, 2016, 05:48:12 PM
Isn't the bar owner entitled to free speech as much as Kapernick? If Kapernick can take a knee and liberals can burn the US flag, why can't he make the jersey a doormat?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 29, 2016, 05:59:52 PM
Yes, the bar owner is entitled to free speech.

I'm confused as to why they would do things to a guy who is kneeling and for some reason, didn't do all of this to people who were charged with sexual assault or killed other people... Dog fighting?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2016, 12:28:27 PM
Ruth Bader Ginsburg says national anthem protests are 'really dumb'
Nick Wagoner
ESPN Staff Writer

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is not a believer in protesting by sitting or kneeling during the national anthem.

Speaking to Yahoo! on Monday morning, Ginsburg had some harsh words for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and other players who have decided to kneel during the national anthem in protest of racial inequality.

"I think it's really dumb of them," Ginsburg said. "Would I arrest them for doing it? No. I think it's dumb and disrespectful. I would have the same answer if you asked me about flag burning. I think it's a terrible thing to do, but I wouldn't lock a person up for doing it.

"I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act. But it's dangerous to arrest people for conduct that doesn't jeopardize the health or well-being of other people. It's a symbol they're engaged in."

Kaepernick began his protest in August by sitting during the national anthem before the first three preseason games. After a meeting with Army Green Beret Nate Boyer, Kaepernick decided to kneel in an effort to make the protest more respectful.

Safety Eric Reid joined Kaepernick then and linebacker Eli Harold has also begun kneeling in the past few weeks. Other NFL players have also joined in kneeling or by raising their right fists during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Kaepernick repeatedly has said that he respects the military but he's trying to use his platform to speak up for those who "don't have a voice" and send a message that substantive change needs to take place in order to quell racial oppression in the United States.

"It came from America and seeing the things that we do here and how we treat people and the oppression and injustices that go on," Kaepernick said in late September. "It's something I've seen for a long time, it's something I have studied up on and it's something that needs to be addressed because it's affecting thousands, if not millions, of lives."

Kaepernick has also committed to donating $1 million to communities in need by offering $100,000 each week during the first 10 weeks of the season. Kaepernick also has said he will donate profits from the sales of his No. 7 jersey to those same causes.

Ginsburg, 83, told Yahoo! she didn't feel Kaepernick and other players should be punished for their protests but made it clear that she would disagree with their stance.

"If they want to be stupid, there's no law that should be preventive," Ginsburg said. "If they want to be arrogant, there's no law that prevents them from that. What I would do is strongly take issue with the point of view that they are expressing when they do that."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17763208/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-justice-says-colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-protests-really-dumb
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2016, 12:32:01 PM
This is the right call.  Blaine Gabbert stinks.

49ers bench Blaine Gabbert, will start Colin Kaepernick at QB
Nick Wagoner
ESPN Staff Writer

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- After five weeks of watching quarterback Blaine Gabbert struggle, San Francisco 49ers coach Chip Kelly is making a change.

After weeks of speculation, Kelly on Tuesday named Colin Kaepernick his starting quarterback for Sunday's game against Buffalo.

"Just to announce, we're going to make a move at quarterback and we're going to start Colin this week and give him an opportunity to run with the ones," Kelly said. "I believe you've got to do it at the beginning of the week just because of how reps are distributed."

After meeting with the coaching staff and discussing possible solutions for the Niners' 31st ranked offense (in yards per game), Kelly said the group came to the conclusion that one of the only moves it could make to potentially jumpstart the offense was to make a change at quarterback.

"We were very analytical and sat down as a staff and watched the tape, went over everything," Kelly said. "We had a couple days to kind of digest where we are and I think offensively we need to be better and we just need to make a move. And it's really not, it's not Blaine's fault. I think it's just as a group offensively we need to be better in a lot of ways so we're going to see what we can do and make a move here. It's really one of the only maneuvers we can make based on our depth."

According to Kelly, because Kaepernick and Gabbert have similar traits, the offense won't need to change much other than the way the reps are split in practice. Previously, it had been Gabbert taking about 75 percent of the work with the first team while Kaepernick handled the other 25 percent. Now, those roles will be reversed.

Kelly informed Kaepernick and Gabbert of the decision and said both were "professional" in handling the news. According to Kelly, Kaepernick offered a simple two-word response of "Let's go" upon being told of the decision.

Sunday's game will mark Kaepernick's first start since Nov. 1 of last year, a 27-6 loss to the Rams. Kaepernick played briefly the following week before shutting it down for the season because of a shoulder injury.

That shoulder injury turned into a harbinger of things to come as Kaepernick underwent a series of surgeries to his thumb and knee in addition to the shoulder. The recovery from those ailments left Kaepernick unable to lift weights and, combined with his decision to become vegan, Kaepernick lost considerable weight, though he declined to say exactly how much.

When Kaepernick returned to the fold in the preseason, he made it through the first couple of weeks of training camp before right-shoulder fatigue forced him to miss the first three preseason games. He played in the final preseason contest against San Diego and handed the ball off three times in the Niners' season-opening win against the Rams.

Throughout the preseason and the early part of this season, Kelly often deflected questions about changing quarterbacks, citing Kaepernick's physical condition as preventing him from playing his best football.

At his peak in 2012 and 2013, Kaepernick weighed about 225 pounds; the type of condition Kelly says allowed him to play well. Last week, Kelly said he wasn't sure Kaepernick's exact weight now but said he's hovering around 215 pounds.

Colin Kaepernick is getting the chance to start at quarterback again after Blaine Gabbert struggled in the 49ers' first five games. AP Photo/Tony Avelar

"We have gone over this ad nauseam," Kelly said. "He's not the same guy he was in 2013, just look at him physically. That's the point I tried to make when people brought that up. He's worked extremely hard on his rehab. We were talking about a guy that missed the offseason because of the injuries and that's the only point I ever tried to make about it."

Kelly made it clear he wasn't so much putting a weight requirement on Kaepernick -- who remained the backup to Gabbert the first five weeks -- as he was hoping to see Kaepernick get back to the peak physical condition that allowed for so much success earlier in his career.

Kelly said Tuesday that Kaepernick has gotten stronger since he initially picked Gabbert as the starter in August.

"When I made the decision on our starting quarterback it was over five weeks ago, we're talking six weeks of rehab," Kelly said. "He also missed two weeks of preseason camp so based upon the time that we had him in preseason camp, he wasn't ready from a physical or mental standpoint in terms of where we were to start the season and that's when we made the decision. We're in Week 6 now of the National Football league. We were talking about that decision after the San Diego Charger game so that was over six weeks ago."

Gabbert started each of the first five games and after a solid outing against the Los Angeles Rams in Week 1, struggled to produce. In four consecutive 49ers' losses, Gabbert has struggled mightily.

For the season, Gabbert ranks 30th in the NFL in passer rating (69.6) among qualified players, is tied for fifth-most in interceptions (six), 26th in completion percentage (58 percent) and 31st in yards per attempt (5.93).

While the Niners pondered the change, some wondered if Kaepernick's contract was preventing Kelly from making the change. Under his current deal, Kaepernick would be guaranteed his $14.5 million base salary next year if he were unable to pass a physical on April 1, 2017.

Although there have been reports of Kaepernick potentially agreeing to an adjusted contract to clear the way for him to start, Kelly said his decision had nothing to do with that.

"I don't deal with contracts," Kelly said. "It's got nothing to do with his contract. It's a football decision. I don't even know where his contract status is. That's a good question for him but I've never discussed his contract nor will I discuss his contract."

Kelly also brushed aside any concern that Kaepernick's protest of racial oppression and inequality in the United States by kneeling during the national anthem will become more of a distraction now that he's starting.

"No and I think we've answered that question ad nauseam as much as the weight question that we've answered is that it has not been an issue and I think because of how Colin has handled it," Kelly said. "He handled it very straight forward with our players when it first came about way back when in August, and it hasn't been an issue since then, so I don't see it changing from that standpoint."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17771490/san-francisco-49ers-start-colin-kaepernick-quarterback-buffalo-bills

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Beefjake on October 12, 2016, 01:40:47 AM
Is the game in Buffalo?

Rex should make 'em play the anthem every time Niners have the ball...

Lots of kneel downs in that  :P
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on October 12, 2016, 06:41:15 AM
This is the right call.  Blaine Gabbert stinks.

49ers bench Blaine Gabbert, will start Colin Kaepernick at QB
Nick Wagoner
ESPN Staff Writer

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- After five weeks of watching quarterback Blaine Gabbert struggle, San Francisco 49ers coach Chip Kelly is making a change.

After weeks of speculation, Kelly on Tuesday named Colin Kaepernick his starting quarterback for Sunday's game against Buffalo.

"Just to announce, we're going to make a move at quarterback and we're going to start Colin this week and give him an opportunity to run with the ones," Kelly said. "I believe you've got to do it at the beginning of the week just because of how reps are distributed."

After meeting with the coaching staff and discussing possible solutions for the Niners' 31st ranked offense (in yards per game), Kelly said the group came to the conclusion that one of the only moves it could make to potentially jumpstart the offense was to make a change at quarterback.

"We were very analytical and sat down as a staff and watched the tape, went over everything," Kelly said. "We had a couple days to kind of digest where we are and I think offensively we need to be better and we just need to make a move. And it's really not, it's not Blaine's fault. I think it's just as a group offensively we need to be better in a lot of ways so we're going to see what we can do and make a move here. It's really one of the only maneuvers we can make based on our depth."

According to Kelly, because Kaepernick and Gabbert have similar traits, the offense won't need to change much other than the way the reps are split in practice. Previously, it had been Gabbert taking about 75 percent of the work with the first team while Kaepernick handled the other 25 percent. Now, those roles will be reversed.

Kelly informed Kaepernick and Gabbert of the decision and said both were "professional" in handling the news. According to Kelly, Kaepernick offered a simple two-word response of "Let's go" upon being told of the decision.

Sunday's game will mark Kaepernick's first start since Nov. 1 of last year, a 27-6 loss to the Rams. Kaepernick played briefly the following week before shutting it down for the season because of a shoulder injury.

That shoulder injury turned into a harbinger of things to come as Kaepernick underwent a series of surgeries to his thumb and knee in addition to the shoulder. The recovery from those ailments left Kaepernick unable to lift weights and, combined with his decision to become vegan, Kaepernick lost considerable weight, though he declined to say exactly how much.

When Kaepernick returned to the fold in the preseason, he made it through the first couple of weeks of training camp before right-shoulder fatigue forced him to miss the first three preseason games. He played in the final preseason contest against San Diego and handed the ball off three times in the Niners' season-opening win against the Rams.

Throughout the preseason and the early part of this season, Kelly often deflected questions about changing quarterbacks, citing Kaepernick's physical condition as preventing him from playing his best football.

At his peak in 2012 and 2013, Kaepernick weighed about 225 pounds; the type of condition Kelly says allowed him to play well. Last week, Kelly said he wasn't sure Kaepernick's exact weight now but said he's hovering around 215 pounds.

Colin Kaepernick is getting the chance to start at quarterback again after Blaine Gabbert struggled in the 49ers' first five games. AP Photo/Tony Avelar

"We have gone over this ad nauseam," Kelly said. "He's not the same guy he was in 2013, just look at him physically. That's the point I tried to make when people brought that up. He's worked extremely hard on his rehab. We were talking about a guy that missed the offseason because of the injuries and that's the only point I ever tried to make about it."

Kelly made it clear he wasn't so much putting a weight requirement on Kaepernick -- who remained the backup to Gabbert the first five weeks -- as he was hoping to see Kaepernick get back to the peak physical condition that allowed for so much success earlier in his career.

Kelly said Tuesday that Kaepernick has gotten stronger since he initially picked Gabbert as the starter in August.

"When I made the decision on our starting quarterback it was over five weeks ago, we're talking six weeks of rehab," Kelly said. "He also missed two weeks of preseason camp so based upon the time that we had him in preseason camp, he wasn't ready from a physical or mental standpoint in terms of where we were to start the season and that's when we made the decision. We're in Week 6 now of the National Football league. We were talking about that decision after the San Diego Charger game so that was over six weeks ago."

Gabbert started each of the first five games and after a solid outing against the Los Angeles Rams in Week 1, struggled to produce. In four consecutive 49ers' losses, Gabbert has struggled mightily.

For the season, Gabbert ranks 30th in the NFL in passer rating (69.6) among qualified players, is tied for fifth-most in interceptions (six), 26th in completion percentage (58 percent) and 31st in yards per attempt (5.93).

While the Niners pondered the change, some wondered if Kaepernick's contract was preventing Kelly from making the change. Under his current deal, Kaepernick would be guaranteed his $14.5 million base salary next year if he were unable to pass a physical on April 1, 2017.

Although there have been reports of Kaepernick potentially agreeing to an adjusted contract to clear the way for him to start, Kelly said his decision had nothing to do with that.

"I don't deal with contracts," Kelly said. "It's got nothing to do with his contract. It's a football decision. I don't even know where his contract status is. That's a good question for him but I've never discussed his contract nor will I discuss his contract."

Kelly also brushed aside any concern that Kaepernick's protest of racial oppression and inequality in the United States by kneeling during the national anthem will become more of a distraction now that he's starting.

"No and I think we've answered that question ad nauseam as much as the weight question that we've answered is that it has not been an issue and I think because of how Colin has handled it," Kelly said. "He handled it very straight forward with our players when it first came about way back when in August, and it hasn't been an issue since then, so I don't see it changing from that standpoint."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17771490/san-francisco-49ers-start-colin-kaepernick-quarterback-buffalo-bills



Doesnt have a whole ton of help. Like the RB there Hyde... But their offense sucks because they dont have good players. Blaine Gabbert doesnt walk on water. Torry Smith is 49ers best wide out. Thats bad.
Kap is gonna stink it up worse. Maybe he can run.  but their offensive weapons are just bad
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2016, 03:26:05 PM
Doesnt have a whole ton of help. Like the RB there Hyde... But their offense sucks because they dont have good players. Blaine Gabbert doesnt walk on water. Torry Smith is 49ers best wide out. Thats bad.
Kap is gonna stink it up worse. Maybe he can run.  but their offensive weapons are just bad

Hyde is a beast.  They don't have great players, but they have good enough players to at least move the ball and score.  Gabbert stinks.  I've seen enough.  He isn't going to get better.  He can run, but he misses open WRs by five or ten yards.  Leaves points on the field.  Turns the ball over. 

Torry Smith has been invisible all season.  The kid they picked up right before the season has been their best WR.

Really disappointed in their D, but the loss of so many good and great players caught up to them. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tatoo on October 13, 2016, 03:32:49 PM
Hyde is a beast.  They don't have great players, but they have good enough players to at least move the ball and score.  Gabbert stinks.  I've seen enough.  He isn't going to get better.  He can run, but he misses open WRs by five or ten yards.  Leaves points on the field.  Turns the ball over. 

Torry Smith has been invisible all season.  The kid they picked up right before the season has been their best WR.

Really disappointed in their D, but the loss of so many good and great players caught up to them. 


ill be booing him in person this week.... I like sf+9 tho..
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2016, 03:54:00 PM

ill be booing him in person this week.... I like sf+9 tho..

Nice.  I'd boo his disrespectful kneeling and that goofy afro, but otherwise I'll be rooting for him and my team. 

No way would I take SF + 9 on the road.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on October 13, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
He did call-out Hillary for the email, which sort of goes against any theme someone might accuse him of trying to cast.  I take back calling him stupid, too.  He puts on a stupid act, sometimes, but he does alright for the most part.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tatoo on October 13, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Nice.  I'd boo his disrespectful kneeling and that goofy afro, but otherwise I'll be rooting for him and my team. 

No way would I take SF + 9 on the road.

the bills blow these games... they suck covering as big favorites.. covered the last 3 games too.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2016, 04:31:39 PM
the bills blow these games... they suck covering as big favorites.. covered the last 3 games too.

I hope you're right.  If you are within earshot, please tell Kaepernick to get a friggin haircut. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tatoo on October 13, 2016, 04:49:47 PM
I hope you're right.  If you are within earshot, please tell Kaepernick to get a friggin haircut. 

will do.. I'm sure he will catch hell up here in buf... fans are fuckin nuts!!
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 13, 2016, 04:58:20 PM
will do.. I'm sure he will catch hell up here in buf... fans are fuckin nuts!!

Good.  Just leave him in one piece so he can help turn my sorry Niners season around. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on October 14, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
Hyde is a beast.  They don't have great players, but they have good enough players to at least move the ball and score.  Gabbert stinks.  I've seen enough.  He isn't going to get better.  He can run, but he misses open WRs by five or ten yards.  Leaves points on the field.  Turns the ball over. 

Torry Smith has been invisible all season.  The kid they picked up right before the season has been their best WR.

Really disappointed in their D, but the loss of so many good and great players caught up to them. 

Losing Navarro hurt. Brooks has lost a step.
They used to be my fave 34 defense to watch.. ballers everywhere
Willis, bowman, brooks, Smith, smith..Hitner... golston... that was just nasty
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 14, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
Losing Navarro hurt. Brooks has lost a step.
They used to be my fave 34 defense to watch.. ballers everywhere
Willis, bowman, brooks, Smith, smith..Hitner... golston... that was just nasty

They had a really impressive streak of not allowing a 100 yard rusher.  Forget how many games, but they had one of the best run Ds in the league for years.  Now they are getting run over. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 14, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
Colin Kaepernick: The Flag Is Just A Piece Of Cloth
Daily Caller ^ | October 13, 2016 | David Hookstead

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick believes that the flag of the United States is nothing more than simply a piece of cloth.

"At the end of the day the flag is just a piece of cloth and I am not going to value a piece of cloth over people's lives. That's just not something I can do, it's not something I feel morally right doing and my character won't allow me to do that," Kaepernick told reporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...

________________________ _________

He is an idiot
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Griffith on October 15, 2016, 06:40:54 AM
What an ungrateful wanker, his home country (USA) gave him all the opportunities to be where he is today.

His sponsors should drop him as well as the sports teams.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on November 14, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
This Colin asshole didn't even vote. lol.

And now we have another "social justice football warrior"

Looks like he will be kneeling for 8 years.

https://www.rt.com/sport/366880-nfl-player-anthem-protest-trump/ (https://www.rt.com/sport/366880-nfl-player-anthem-protest-trump/)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on November 16, 2016, 01:04:22 AM
This Colin asshole didn't even vote. lol.

And now we have another "social justice football warrior"

Looks like he will be kneeling for 8 years.

https://www.rt.com/sport/366880-nfl-player-anthem-protest-trump/ (https://www.rt.com/sport/366880-nfl-player-anthem-protest-trump/)

I'm sure you'd kneel down and suck his dick faster than anyone here can say Jack Robinson.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on November 16, 2016, 02:36:20 AM
I'm sure you'd kneel down and suck his dick faster than anyone here can say Jack Robinson.

You confuse me for your mother.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on November 16, 2016, 07:39:48 PM
You confuse me for your mother.

Sweet mom joke. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on November 18, 2016, 06:01:33 PM
This Colin asshole didn't even vote. lol.

And now we have another "social justice football warrior"

Looks like he will be kneeling for 8 years.

https://www.rt.com/sport/366880-nfl-player-anthem-protest-trump/ (https://www.rt.com/sport/366880-nfl-player-anthem-protest-trump/)

It is highly hypocritical of him to not vote.

You can't claim to want to change the system, and yet not do anything to attempt to right the ship you think is off course.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on November 27, 2016, 02:08:19 PM
http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2016/NFL_COM/in-game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/12/161127_bp_sfvsmia_suh_kaepernick_final_play_681742_3200k.mp4 (http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2016/NFL_COM/in-game-highlight/NFLCOM/REG/12/161127_bp_sfvsmia_suh_kaepernick_final_play_681742_3200k.mp4)

Castro-sympathizer Kaepernick getting crushed by half-Cuban Kiko Alonso on 2 yard line to lose the game in the final seconds.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 27, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
That was awesome.   Commies and kaperfag can go drown
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on December 11, 2016, 02:07:33 PM
Minutes before kick off in San Fran
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 11, 2016, 06:36:56 PM
Minutes before kick off in San Fran

was this today?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on December 12, 2016, 03:06:10 AM
was this today?


yes sir
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2016, 09:28:38 AM
Outstanding.

Navy officer rips Colin Kaepernick in Pearl Harbor speech: Those we honor 'never took a knee'
By: Charles Curtis   | December 8, 2016
   
For the second time this week, a member of the armed forces has ripped Colin Kaepernick over his national anthem protest.

On Monday, a former Marine said on FOX News that the San Francisco 49ers QB should “go sign a contract to play in Cuba.” And on Wednesday, during a Pearl Harbor 75th anniversary event in Honolulu, U.S. Pacific Commander Admiral Harry Harris had this to say during a speech:

“You can bet that the men and women we honor today and those who died that faithful morning 75 years ago never took a knee and never failed to stand whenever they heard our national anthem being played.”

While he didn’t name Kaepernick specifically, it was obvious who he was referring to.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/12/colin-kaepernick-navy-pearl-harbor-didnt-take-a-knee-national-anthem-video

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 12, 2016, 10:10:30 AM
Kaperfaggot lost to the jets.   Awesome
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2016, 10:16:42 AM
Kaperfaggot lost to the jets.   Awesome

I don't like what he is doing, but I hate the fact my Niners are one of the worst teams in the NFL.  Again. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2016, 11:50:45 AM
I don't like what he is doing, but I hate the fact my Niners are one of the worst teams in the NFL.  Again. 

I'd like to see the niners and browns in a playoff ;D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on December 12, 2016, 01:03:03 PM
I'd like to see the niners and browns in a playoff ;D

That's cold man.  How the heck did my Niners become as bad as the Browns?? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on December 12, 2016, 03:06:54 PM
Kaperfaggot lost to the jets.   Awesome


The players that didnt kneel also lost to the jets..
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 12, 2016, 06:56:15 PM

The players that didnt kneel also lost to the jets..

Kapertwink is a Black Plague and albatross around the meck of the 49ers
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on December 12, 2016, 07:14:27 PM
Kapertwink is a Black Plague and albatross around the meck of the 49ers

bullshit.  he has a beautiful mulatto cock that you pleasure yourself endlessly thinking about being penetrated by.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 12, 2016, 10:48:09 PM
bullshit.  he has a beautiful mulatto cock that you pleasure yourself endlessly thinking about being penetrated by.

He's done....I won't even train him.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on December 12, 2016, 11:18:17 PM
He's done....I won't even train him.

LOL.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 13, 2016, 07:39:46 AM
That's cold man.  How the heck did my Niners become as bad as the Browns?? 

Don't feel bad. My wife is a die hard Browns fan, I have a client on the Brown (that just got traded last night) it's an ongoing joke in our house..lol
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on December 13, 2016, 08:17:29 AM
Kapertwink is a Black Plague and albatross around the meck of the 49ers

what was blane gabbert?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 13, 2016, 08:46:30 AM
what was blane gabbert?

a CASTRO LOVING COMMIE TWINK TOO? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: polychronopolous on December 13, 2016, 09:12:00 AM
a CASTRO LOVING COMMIE TWINK TOO? 

Haha. you're on a roll my friend  :D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2016, 05:34:01 PM
Don't feel bad. My wife is a die hard Browns fan, I have a client on the Brown (that just got traded last night) it's an ongoing joke in our house..lol

That's not helping.  The Browns always stink.  My team has five rings.  We're not supposed be fighting for the number 1 overall pick. 

Bring back Eddie Debartolo.   :'(
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2016, 08:23:04 AM
a CASTRO LOVING COMMIE TWINK TOO? 

lol @ you calling a 6'4 225 world class athlete a "twink"... he would beat the dog shit out of your little cross fit ass
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 14, 2016, 12:02:55 PM
lol @ you calling a 6'4 225 world class athlete a "twink"... he would beat the dog shit out of your little cross fit ass

Gabbert yes, Kaepernick not so much. I'd be surprised if Kaepernick weighed more than 205. Especially since he went vegan.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 14, 2016, 04:06:05 PM
lol @ you calling a 6'4 225 world class athlete a "twink"... he would beat the dog shit out of your little cross fit ass

I don't do crossfit fatty
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on December 14, 2016, 06:49:57 PM
I don't do crossfit fatty
whatever little guy... go do burpees
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2016, 07:33:20 AM
whatever little guy... go do burpees

Hey fatso - tune in tonight to History Channel - Selection - thats more like the stuff i am doing. 

BTW - 5 burpees would put you in cardiac arrest 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2016, 11:19:47 AM
More Evidence That Colin Kaepernick’s Anti-American Protest Hurting The NFL
Breitbart - AP ^ | 12-15-2016 | Warner Todd Huston
Posted on 12/15/2016, 1:31:06 PM by blam

Warner Todd Huston
December 15, 2016

An article at SportingNews.com warns the National Football League not to ignore the growing number of NFL fans who have checked out over the constant anti-American protests indulged by San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick and other NFL players. In his December 13th piece, Sporting News writer Michael McCarthy highlights fans who have grown sick and tired of the anti-Americanism infesting their national pastime.

“This has left such a bad taste in my mouth,” one 46-year-old elementary school teacher and now former football fan told McCarthy. “I don’t know if I can ever forgive them to tell you the truth. I don’t know if I’ll get the opportunity to find out. But it’s not looking good. They may have lost a fan for life.”

McCarthy goes on to focus on a Twitter hashtag campaign NFL fans use to express their outrage over the protests infesting their entertainment.

“Using the hashtag #BoycottNFL,” McCarthy wrote, “a small-but-vocal group of NFL fans have lodged their own protest against Kaepernick’s protest by refusing to watch game telecasts.”

McCarthy goes on to point out that the NFL has seen a double-digit plunge in ratings over the numbers seen in 2015, a drop that “has puzzled the league,” McCarthy writes. The sportswriter reminds readers that NFL officials and TV executives have steadfastly refused to accept the idea that Kaepernick’s anti-American protests play any part in the ratings crash.

But McCarthy warns that this penchant to dismiss fans who oppose the protests is likely a big mistake.

“All along,” McCarthy writes, fans have found themselves “mystified by why the NFL (which clamped down on the Cowboys for trying to honor slain police officers in Dallas) passively allowed Kaepernick to hijack its name,” and use the NFL

(snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on June 07, 2017, 08:02:41 AM
 :'(

Black Lives Matter Leader Calls for NFL Boycott Over Kaepernick 'Blackballing'
Jun 07, 2017 // 7:45am
As seen on Fox & Friends

'Hostile, Separatist and Crazy': Tucker Battles Supporter of 'Blacks-Only' Memorial Day Party

Daily News columnist and Black Lives Matter leader Shaun King announced Tuesday he is boycotting the National Football League for allegedly blacklisting Colin Kaepernick.

Kaepernick, who started a nationwide trend with his controversial decision to kneel during the pre-game national anthem to protest racial injustice in America, has not been signed by an NFL team since he opted out of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers in March.

“I can’t, in good conscience, support this league, with many of its pro-Trump owners, as it blacklists my friend and brother Colin Kaepernick for taking a silent, peaceful stance against injustice and police brutality in America,” King wrote in the Daily News. “It’s disgusting and has absolutely nothing to do with football and everything to do with penalizing a brilliant young man for the principled stance he took last season.”

King said Kaepernick remains unsigned because of racism, bigotry and discrimination.

"As a leader in the Black Lives Matter Movement, as a voice in the resistance to Donald Trump, and as a friend of Colin Kaepernick, I cannot, in good conscience, support the NFL any longer. If I did, I'd struggle to look my own son in the eyes or look at myself in the mirror," King concluded.

 Shaun King ✔ @ShaunKing
I'm boycotting the @NFL because of their bigotry & blacklisting of Colin Kaepernick. It's gone way too far. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/king-boycotting-nfl-anti-blackness-article-1.3225720 …

 Shaun King ✔ @ShaunKing
@NFL If you call the decisions by 32 teams to not sign this man a football decision, you probably voted for Donald Trumphttp://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/king-boycotting-nfl-anti-blackness-article-1.3225720 …
2:46 AM - 7 Jun 2017
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KING: I'm boycotting the NFL because of its anti-blackness
I love sports. Since I was a young boy, they've been one of the greatest passions of my life.
nydailynews.com
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 Shaun King ✔ @ShaunKing
This is the truth about the @NFL.

Several current players in the league have told me this very thing. https://twitter.com/MrTracyJ/status/872438172738781184 …
3:03 AM - 7 Jun 2017
  288 288 Retweets   529 529 likes

On "Fox & Friends" this morning, Star Parker, founder and president of The Center for Urban Renewal and Education, argued that NFL teams are staying away from Kaepernick because they don't want to deal with the drama surrounding him.

She said King has a right to boycott the NFL, since we live in a free society.

"However, that said, what we cannot allow to happen is ourselves reduced to mob rule, which is what Black Lives Matter's all about," Parker said. "We battle in the voting booth in a free society."

"Black Lives Matter needs to just get off of the political stage and go about their business [and] lives, and then get out the polls the next time if they really want Democrats in control."

Watch more above and check out Tucker's must-see interview with a supporter of a Black Lives Matter "blacks-only" Memorial Day party.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/07/black-lives-matter-leader-shaun-king-calls-nfl-boycott-over-colin-kaepernick-blackballing
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: jude2 on June 07, 2017, 09:53:57 PM
Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 08, 2017, 01:49:34 AM
:'(

Black Lives Matter Leader Calls for NFL Boycott Over Kaepernick 'Blackballing'
Jun 07, 2017 // 7:45am
As seen on Fox & Friends

'Hostile, Separatist and Crazy': Tucker Battles Supporter of 'Blacks-Only' Memorial Day Party

Daily News columnist and Black Lives Matter leader Shaun King announced Tuesday he is boycotting the National Football League for allegedly blacklisting Colin Kaepernick.

Kaepernick, who started a nationwide trend with his controversial decision to kneel during the pre-game national anthem to protest racial injustice in America, has not been signed by an NFL team since he opted out of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers in March.

“I can’t, in good conscience, support this league, with many of its pro-Trump owners, as it blacklists my friend and brother Colin Kaepernick for taking a silent, peaceful stance against injustice and police brutality in America,” King wrote in the Daily News. “It’s disgusting and has absolutely nothing to do with football and everything to do with penalizing a brilliant young man for the principled stance he took last season.”

King said Kaepernick remains unsigned because of racism, bigotry and discrimination.

"As a leader in the Black Lives Matter Movement, as a voice in the resistance to Donald Trump, and as a friend of Colin Kaepernick, I cannot, in good conscience, support the NFL any longer. If I did, I'd struggle to look my own son in the eyes or look at myself in the mirror," King concluded.

 Shaun King ✔ @ShaunKing
I'm boycotting the @NFL because of their bigotry & blacklisting of Colin Kaepernick. It's gone way too far. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/king-boycotting-nfl-anti-blackness-article-1.3225720 …

 Shaun King ✔ @ShaunKing
@NFL If you call the decisions by 32 teams to not sign this man a football decision, you probably voted for Donald Trumphttp://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/king-boycotting-nfl-anti-blackness-article-1.3225720 …
2:46 AM - 7 Jun 2017
Photo published for KING: I'm boycotting the NFL because of its anti-blackness
KING: I'm boycotting the NFL because of its anti-blackness
I love sports. Since I was a young boy, they've been one of the greatest passions of my life.
nydailynews.com
  82 82 Retweets   304 304 likes

 Shaun King ✔ @ShaunKing
This is the truth about the @NFL.

Several current players in the league have told me this very thing. https://twitter.com/MrTracyJ/status/872438172738781184 …
3:03 AM - 7 Jun 2017
  288 288 Retweets   529 529 likes

On "Fox & Friends" this morning, Star Parker, founder and president of The Center for Urban Renewal and Education, argued that NFL teams are staying away from Kaepernick because they don't want to deal with the drama surrounding him.

She said King has a right to boycott the NFL, since we live in a free society.

"However, that said, what we cannot allow to happen is ourselves reduced to mob rule, which is what Black Lives Matter's all about," Parker said. "We battle in the voting booth in a free society."

"Black Lives Matter needs to just get off of the political stage and go about their business [and] lives, and then get out the polls the next time if they really want Democrats in control."

Watch more above and check out Tucker's must-see interview with a supporter of a Black Lives Matter "blacks-only" Memorial Day party.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/07/black-lives-matter-leader-shaun-king-calls-nfl-boycott-over-colin-kaepernick-blackballing

Whatever you say whiteboy.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tonymctones on June 08, 2017, 04:11:21 PM
Guy is mediocre passer at best and likes to run. I would take him as a back up but he would want starter money.

I definitely think that his actions have scared off some teams but if he was a good starting qb he would have a job no doubt
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on June 08, 2017, 04:13:24 PM
Guy is mediocre passer at best and likes to run. I would take him as a back up but he would want starter money.

I definitely think that his actions have scared off some teams but if he was a good starting qb he would have a job no doubt

He was close to being a Super Bowl champion just a few years ago and had Jaworski saying he could be the greatest QB in NFL history.  Turned out to be an overstatement, but he's got a lot of talent. 

That said, I'm glad he's gone.  I thought his protest was incredibly disrespectful.  He is getting what he deserves. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Howard on June 08, 2017, 05:06:41 PM
Guy is mediocre passer at best and likes to run. I would take him as a back up but he would want starter money.

I definitely think that his actions have scared off some teams but if he was a good starting qb he would have a job no doubt

I wonder if Kap will kneel during the playing of "Oh Canda " ? ;)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tonymctones on June 09, 2017, 04:51:21 PM
He was close to being a Super Bowl champion just a few years ago and had Jaworski saying he could be the greatest QB in NFL history.  Turned out to be an overstatement, but he's got a lot of talent. 

That said, I'm glad he's gone.  I thought his protest was incredibly disrespectful.  He is getting what he deserves. 
Yea that was with a bad ass defense and frank gore. I mean seriously nobody had even heard of Navarro bowman at that time b/c Patrick Willis was playing, i think they had Aldon smith playin then too.

I remember one or two games he had in the playoffs that year which i believe consisted of home running for more yard than he passed for.

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on June 09, 2017, 07:57:05 PM
Yea that was with a bad ass defense and frank gore. I mean seriously nobody had even heard of Navarro bowman at that time b/c Patrick Willis was playing, i think they had Aldon smith playin then too.

I remember one or two games he had in the playoffs that year which i believe consisted of home running for more yard than he passed for.



It wasn't just the D and running game.  He was a stud for a brief moment in time.  Lethal.   

I watched him play in person several times when Nevada came to Hawaii, and I was never impressed with him as a passer.  I thought the "pistol" offense they ran hid his defects.  I said he would have to make a believer out of when the Niners drafted him.  And he did. 

But then the wheels fell off.  Part of that was injury, part was losing Harbaugh, part was the depletion of talent around him.  He has to have the right system. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tonymctones on June 09, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
It wasn't just the D and running game.  He was a stud for a brief moment in time.  Lethal.   

I watched him play in person several times when Nevada came to Hawaii, and I was never impressed with him as a passer.  I thought the "pistol" offense they ran hid his defects.  I said he would have to make a believer out of when the Niners drafted him.  And he did. 

But then the wheels fell off.  Part of that was injury, part was losing Harbaugh, part was the depletion of talent around him.  He has to have the right system. 
If you have to have an all star quality team around you to be great then you probably aren't the guy.

They had Vernon Davis, Mario manningham, Michael Crabtree, frank gore and a pro bowl defense on its own. He did a good job but with that much talent around him he just needed not to lose.

There's a lot to be said for that, look at flacco he won a Super Bowl by letting his team do its thing and not losing games himself.

But is he a Big Ben, Andrew luck, russel wilson, tom Brady? Shit no, i would take Kirk cousins over him
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on June 09, 2017, 08:42:05 PM
If you have to have an all star quality team around you to be great then you probably aren't the guy.

They had Vernon Davis, Mario manningham, Michael Crabtree, frank gore and a pro bowl defense on its own. He did a good job but with that much talent around him he just needed not to lose.

There's a lot to be said for that, look at flacco he won a Super Bowl by letting his team do its thing and not losing games himself.

But is he a Big Ben, Andrew luck, russel wilson, tom Brady? Shit no, i would take Kirk cousins over him

I wouldn't say that.  Some QBs need a better supporting cast and a certain system more than others. 

He was a couple minutes away from winning a Super Bowl.  And a play away from getting there a second time.  Did you watch him play during his run?  The reason why Jaws said he could be the best ever is because he was balling. 

But today?  I wouldn't want him on my team. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tonymctones on June 16, 2017, 06:35:46 AM
I wouldn't say that.  Some QBs need a better supporting cast and a certain system more than others. 

He was a couple minutes away from winning a Super Bowl.  And a play away from getting there a second time.  Did you watch him play during his run?  The reason why Jaws said he could be the best ever is because he was balling. 

But today?  I wouldn't want him on my team. 
Yea I watched him and I'll say again a good part of his success as a qb was the supporting cast as well as his ability to run the ball. which is a big part of it for me. Sorry I don't want a running qb, they don't last. He ran for more yards than he threw for!!!!! That will win you a game here or there but it's not sustainable.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tonymctones on June 16, 2017, 06:38:49 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2013/01/13/qb-colin-kaepernick-rushes-for-181-yards-as-49ers-top-packers/amp/

This is probably one of the games in which you remember as his prime. Yea I want a guy who is going to get it done and win but do I want him to rely on the run? No bc that's why we have a running back
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Beefjake on June 16, 2017, 11:15:54 AM
MondayMorningQB has a good article on Kaepernick.

 - He needs to better in the pocket to have a job. Nobody wants to have different offence for their back up qb.

I agree
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 18, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
This dumbass just doesn't know when to keep quiet.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/18/colin-kaepernick-police-fugitive-slave-patrols-philando-castile-verdict
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on June 19, 2017, 02:19:20 PM
This dumbass just doesn't know when to keep quiet.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/18/colin-kaepernick-police-fugitive-slave-patrols-philando-castile-verdict
Oh the irony.

Kaepernick needs to do some box squats and tire flips.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2017, 04:21:19 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2013/01/13/qb-colin-kaepernick-rushes-for-181-yards-as-49ers-top-packers/amp/

This is probably one of the games in which you remember as his prime. Yea I want a guy who is going to get it done and win but do I want him to rely on the run? No bc that's why we have a running back

He wasn't just a running QB.  That was an incredible game where he ran and passed for about 180 yards each.  But what did he do in his next game against the Packers?  Passed for 412 yards and only ran for 22.  http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201309080sfo.htm

In his two really good years (2012 and 2013) he had the following:

2012:  1814 yards passing, 10 TDs, 3 INTs, 415 yards rushing, 5 TDs
2013:  3197 yards passing, 21 TDs, 8 INTs, 524 yards rushing, 4 TDs

That version of Kaepernick is pretty darn good and not simply a running QB. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2017, 04:58:43 PM
Oh the irony.

Kaepernick needs to do some box squats and tire flips.

I don't do tire flips with QB's. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 19, 2017, 06:53:00 PM
I don't do tire flips with QB's. Thanks for the input.

Why the fuck people knocking tire flips and the like ?  Gay ass body building workouts are so lame. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2017, 07:39:17 PM
Why the fuck people knocking tire flips and the like ?  Gay ass body building workouts are so lame. 

Simple, it's too much like work.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on June 28, 2017, 10:49:53 AM
Simple, it's too much like work.
STFU you stupid Trumpling
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2017, 01:18:19 PM
Simple, it's too much like work.

most libfag cucks want it all handed to them
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 05, 2017, 04:03:06 PM
Good.

Cleveland police, rescue unions won't hold U.S. flag in NFL opener, citing Browns' protest
Browns anthem protest

By Cindy Boren
Washington Post
September 3, 2017
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-59ad52cb/turbine/ct-cleveland-police-rescue-unions-us-flag-brow-001/750/750x422)
This Aug. 21, 2017, file photo shows members of the Browns kneeling during the national anthem before an exhibition against the Giants in Cleveland. Unions representing Cleveland police and paramedics say they won't hold a large American flag before the season opener because of previous player protests during the national anthem (Ron Schwane / AP)

Unions that represent Cleveland police officers and first responders will not participate in one of the annual rites that precede NFL openers, with leaders saying they were offended when Browns players knelt during the national anthem before a preseason game.

The head of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association says that they have decided not to hold part of the gigantic American flag as part of the pregame ceremony at the Browns' Sept. 10 opener against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Typically, players, first responders, politicians and military members join in, too.

"When management allows you to do those things, then that's on them," Steve Loomis, the police union's president, told Cleveland.com. "It's hypocritical of the Browns management and ownership to want to have an armed forces first-responder day, and have us involved in it when they allow their players to take a knee during the national anthem. That's the very representation of what we stand for. That's why we aren't going to."

However, a police spokeswoman noted that the union "does not speak" for the department. public information officer Jennifer Ciaccia told HuffPost. "The Division of Police is in no way boycotting the Browns," public information officer Jennifer Ciaccia told HuffPost, "nor denying participation in events with our officers."

The president of a union that represents EMTs and other first responders told HuffPost that it would not participate, either.

"The NFL brags about how they love the military and safety forces and everything that we do for this country, but obviously they don't show it because they're not setting forth any rules about (the national anthem)," Daniel Nemeth, president of a local branch of the Cleveland Association of Rescue Employees, said.

A dozen Browns players took a knee during the national anthem on Aug. 21, with a white player for the first time joining in the protests that began with Colin Kaepernick during the 2016 preseason. The Browns specified that they were taking a knee in prayer.

"There's a lot of racial and social injustices in the world that are going on right now," rookie safety Jabrill Peppers said, explaining the message they'd hoped to send. "We just decided to take a knee and pray for the people who have been affected and just pray for the world in general."

During their final preseason game on Aug. 31, Browns locked arms during the anthem and drew the support of management. "Professionally, thoughtfully, probably as thoughtfully as any others have," Sashi Brown, the team's executive vice president of football operations, told Cleveland.com last week.

"These are guys that mean well. We really push our guys to be active and conscious about the communities they live in and what goes on around them that might be even larger than football. They do that, and we support them. We respect their efforts to use their platform to make some change and express themselves. And I think for all those guys that knelt initially and then last week decided to stand - I won't get into why they made that decision - I think they are going about it in a very responsible and thoughtful way. I'm actually proud of them."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-cleveland-police-rescue-unions-us-flag-browns-protest-20170903-story.html
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: jude2 on September 05, 2017, 06:55:43 PM
If they kneel or sit I just change the channel.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2017, 07:37:01 PM
Leftist double standards. I didn't see any protests when Tebow couldn't get a job. Liberals pukes.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2017, 05:44:52 PM
Dummy.

Ray Lewis said Ravens would have signed Colin Kaepernick if not for girlfriend's tweet
Jamison Hensley
ESPN Staff Writer
September 6, 2017

OWINGS MILLS, Md. -- Ray Lewis said the Baltimore Ravens chose not to sign Colin Kaepernick after the quarterback's girlfriend posted a "racist" tweet featuring the former All-Pro linebacker and owner Steve Bisciotti.

"We were going to close the deal to sign him," Lewis said on Showtime's "Inside the NFL" on Tuesday night. "Steve Bisciotti said, 'I want to hear Colin Kaepernick speak to let me know that he wants to play football.'"

"And it never happens because that picture comes up the next day."

The Aug. 2 tweet by Nessa Diab compared a picture of Lewis hugging Bisciotti to a scene from "Django Unchained," in which Samuel L. Jackson as a loyal house slave held Leonardo DiCaprio's cruel plantation owner character.

"His girl [Diab] goes out and put out this racist gesture and doesn't know we are in the back office about to try to get this guy signed," Lewis said. "Steve Bisciotti has said it himself: 'How can you crucify Ray Lewis when Ray Lewis is the one calling for Colin Kaepernick?'"

Lewis was asked whether the Ravens would have signed Kaepernick if not for the tweet.

"Then he's flying him to Baltimore," Lewis said. "I am sitting with all three of them and we are all having a conversation about bringing Colin Kaepernick in."

On Wednesday, Ravens coach John Harbaugh didn't directly address Lewis' assertion.

"I'm not exactly sure what all was said. But I can tell you this: I'm way past that," Harbaugh said before practice. "I haven't even thought about that for weeks. Our focus is Cincinnati."

Asked if this is an unwanted distraction, Harbaugh said, "We have two healthy quarterbacks and we're ready to roll."

Kaepernick drew national attention last season when he knelt during the national anthem before games as a protest of social injustice, which he said he will no longer do in 2017.

Ravens coach John Harbaugh brought up the possibility of pursuing Kaepernick at the opening of training camp, when quarterback Joe Flacco informed the team of his back injury. Team president Dick Cass later indicated that the Ravens had direct contact with Kaepernick, who informed Baltimore that he still desired to play.

Ravens officials acknowledged they had consulted with fans and former and current players, as well as sponsors, about Kaepernick.

"Pray for us," Bisciotti said of the team when weighing its decision.

Kaepernick's girlfriend then posted the picture of Bisciotti and Lewis three days later.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20597810/ray-lewis-said-baltimore-ravens-sign-colin-kaepernick-girlfriend-racist-tweet
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 06, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Ray Lewis is a sellout/cun-t
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 06, 2017, 08:15:01 PM
(http://wagsr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Colin-Kaepernicks-girlfriend-Nessa.png)


Purely for context of course....
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on September 07, 2017, 06:58:28 PM
Leftist double standards. I didn't see any protests when Tebow couldn't get a job. Liberals pukes.
That's because tebow sucks and is a religious whackadoo.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 07, 2017, 07:49:40 PM
(http://wagsr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Colin-Kaepernicks-girlfriend-Nessa.png)


Purely for context of course....

Skinny fat.  Not Dos Equis approved. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 07, 2017, 08:23:18 PM
That's because tebow sucks and is a religious whackadoo.

.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 11, 2017, 07:33:00 PM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2017, 08:50:13 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21617477_1648884765187032_662625773504505953_n.jpg?oh=752b0155132949caabcb7f0a2b8a50cc&oe=5A4A8714)

lol   ;D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
Franco Harris Says Mean Joe Greene, Lambert Would Have Handled Kaepernick in Their Day
By Jay Maxson | September 6, 2017

Here's a toast to you, Mean Joe Green and Jack Lambert. These two Pittsburgh Steelers' champions from the 1970s, would not have tolerated the un-American protests spawned by Colin Kaepernick. Their teammate, Franco Harris, told Mediate's John Ziegler so in a podcast interview this week.

Harris, the Hall of Fame running back, four-time Super Bowl champion and the man whose "immaculate reception" touchdown pass in 1972 enabled the Steelers to stun the Oakland Raiders in the AFC playoffs, said, “I don't think it would have been (head coach) Chuck (Noll). We had two of the meanest guys in football, who I think would’ve dealt with it that way, and that would’ve been Joe Greene and Jack Lambert.”

In a blog about the Harris interview, Mediate's Ken Meyer wrote that Kaepernick, who last played for the San Francisco 49ers in 2016, "is still a controversial figure in the sports world due to his refusal to stand for the Star Spangled Banner last season. Kaepernick said it was his way to protest racism and police brutality, though he still faces condemnation from critics who say he disrespected America as a whole by rebuking the national anthem."

Not surprisingly, considering his toxic brand, Kaepernick hasn't been allowed to step onto an NFL practice field this season. Nevertheless, he continues to talk trash through his angry tweets, ripping America as an oppressive nation and police officers as "pigs" and "slave patrol." Only a handful of copycat activists in the NFL are carrying out his bitter legacy of protest in his absence from the preseason.

When Ziegler asked Harris about the "B" word -- blackball -- Harris said America has social issues that need to be dealt with, but "it’s important to respect the country by standing before the flag." And Harris added this:

When he puts on that suit, when he steps out on that field it's not just about him. It's his teammates, the NFL and the fans. Because the team has to come first. And if he wants to make statements, take a position then that's fine. Go do that, but there's no reason he couldn't do it after practice on another platform than doing it with his suit on and at the stadium ... and then also to bring his team into it, his teammates and the NFL. He could have done it anywhere else and no one would have said anything. Once he put on that suit, stepped on that field that represents more than that.

Harris said Kaepernick has the freedom to voice dissent, but "he could’ve done so on different platform and without dragging the football league into it." He said the Pittsburgh coaches and team leaders "would’ve confronted Kaepernick over his protest" if the protests occurred on his team.

The leader of "Franco's Army" is the second old-school star running back to question Kaepernick's selfish tactics. Cleveland Browns' Hall of Famer Jim Brown also recently opposed Kaepernick's disrespectful method of protest.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/jay-maxson/2017/09/06/franco-harris-says-mean-joe-greene-lambert-would-have-handled
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: jude2 on September 11, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
Real football players who loved the game.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Conker on September 12, 2017, 12:47:52 AM
it always baffles me why black americans sing the national anthem. the author certainly wasn't referring to black people being "free" when he wrote it.

if the US really is "the land of the free" they should scrap that that sht. something written by a native american would be more fitting.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2017, 03:58:54 AM
it always baffles me why black americans sing the national anthem. the author certainly wasn't referring to black people being "free" when he wrote it.

if the US really is "the land of the free" they should scrap that that sht. something written by a native american would be more fitting.


If blacks are so oppressed - why dont they pick up and move elsewhere?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 12, 2017, 07:32:34 PM

If blacks are so oppressed - why dont they pick up and move elsewhere?

Spoken like true white trash.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 12, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
Spoken like true white trash.

I've been hearing the same thing my entire life - seems to me easiest things g to do would be pick up and move
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 12, 2017, 07:38:54 PM
I've been hearing the same thing my entire life - seems to me easiest things g to do would be pick up and move

No, the easiest and right thing to do would be to admit our sins and remove them from the lexicon of American life.  I don't care that they
removed the "bad" verse from the national anthem.  The rest of it is still written by the same pile of shit that authored the heinous verse.
The national anthem should be replaced to include all citizens of this country. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 13, 2017, 03:39:21 AM
No, the easiest and right thing to do would be to admit our sins and remove them from the lexicon of American life.  I don't care that they
removed the "bad" verse from the national anthem.  The rest of it is still written by the same pile of shit that authored the heinous verse.
The national anthem should be replaced to include all citizens of this country. 

And after home of the brave add what ? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 13, 2017, 05:23:59 AM
And after home of the brave add what ?  

It's not even worth arguing. It's all just rationalizing failure. Slavery was an institution which predated written history. It didn't start in the United States. It was practiced everywhere in the world. So no place was free. The United States actually did more to a end the practice than any other country. Moreover, blacks in this country have a much higher standard of living than blacks in Africa. They just can't act like civilized human beings. That's why they'll just keep failing and keep making more excuses.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 13, 2017, 05:42:32 AM
It's not even worth arguing. It's all just rationalizing failure. Slavery was an institution which predated written history. It didn't start in the United States. It was practiced everywhere in the world. So no place was free. The United States actually did more to a end the practice than any other country. Moreover, blacks in this country have a much higher standard of living than blacks in Africa. They just can't act like civilized human beings. That's why they'll just keep failing and keep making more excuses.

I've heard every excuse in the book for my 42 years on this planet.  I've realized that for "Da Community" excuses are a way of life and cop out and most just prefer it that way.  F em. 

They want to get eclipsed by every group that comes here who don't buy in to that idiocy and stupid shit - hey enjoy the sewer.  Its your choice. 

40 acres and a mules - F - id take that deal now too.  But instead - just vote democrat - collect welfare and blame others.  A lot easier. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 13, 2017, 06:22:37 AM
I've heard every excuse in the book for my 42 years on this planet.  I've realized that for "Da Community" excuses are a way of life and cop out and most just prefer it that way.  F em. 

They want to get eclipsed by every group that comes here who don't buy in to that idiocy and stupid shit - hey enjoy the sewer.  Its your choice. 

40 acres and a mules - F - id take that deal now too.  But instead - just vote democrat - collect welfare and blame others.  A lot easier. 

Spot on.

We had eight years of a black president and a black Justice Department and the end result is blacks killing each other in record numbers. There's no point in looking for complex explanations. It's simply a failed culture that has no place in modern civilized society:

Nearly 40 shot in Chicago over weekend as city nears 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-39-wounded-6-fatally-in-weekend-shootings-20170911-story,amp.html
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: MCWAY on September 13, 2017, 08:04:59 AM
Franco Harris Says Mean Joe Greene, Lambert Would Have Handled Kaepernick in Their Day
By Jay Maxson | September 6, 2017

Here's a toast to you, Mean Joe Green and Jack Lambert. These two Pittsburgh Steelers' champions from the 1970s, would not have tolerated the un-American protests spawned by Colin Kaepernick. Their teammate, Franco Harris, told Mediate's John Ziegler so in a podcast interview this week.

Harris, the Hall of Fame running back, four-time Super Bowl champion and the man whose "immaculate reception" touchdown pass in 1972 enabled the Steelers to stun the Oakland Raiders in the AFC playoffs, said, “I don't think it would have been (head coach) Chuck (Noll). We had two of the meanest guys in football, who I think would’ve dealt with it that way, and that would’ve been Joe Greene and Jack Lambert.”

In a blog about the Harris interview, Mediate's Ken Meyer wrote that Kaepernick, who last played for the San Francisco 49ers in 2016, "is still a controversial figure in the sports world due to his refusal to stand for the Star Spangled Banner last season. Kaepernick said it was his way to protest racism and police brutality, though he still faces condemnation from critics who say he disrespected America as a whole by rebuking the national anthem."

Not surprisingly, considering his toxic brand, Kaepernick hasn't been allowed to step onto an NFL practice field this season. Nevertheless, he continues to talk trash through his angry tweets, ripping America as an oppressive nation and police officers as "pigs" and "slave patrol." Only a handful of copycat activists in the NFL are carrying out his bitter legacy of protest in his absence from the preseason.

When Ziegler asked Harris about the "B" word -- blackball -- Harris said America has social issues that need to be dealt with, but "it’s important to respect the country by standing before the flag." And Harris added this:

When he puts on that suit, when he steps out on that field it's not just about him. It's his teammates, the NFL and the fans. Because the team has to come first. And if he wants to make statements, take a position then that's fine. Go do that, but there's no reason he couldn't do it after practice on another platform than doing it with his suit on and at the stadium ... and then also to bring his team into it, his teammates and the NFL. He could have done it anywhere else and no one would have said anything. Once he put on that suit, stepped on that field that represents more than that.

Harris said Kaepernick has the freedom to voice dissent, but "he could’ve done so on different platform and without dragging the football league into it." He said the Pittsburgh coaches and team leaders "would’ve confronted Kaepernick over his protest" if the protests occurred on his team.

The leader of "Franco's Army" is the second old-school star running back to question Kaepernick's selfish tactics. Cleveland Browns' Hall of Famer Jim Brown also recently opposed Kaepernick's disrespectful method of protest.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/jay-maxson/2017/09/06/franco-harris-says-mean-joe-greene-lambert-would-have-handled

This reminds me of the "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior" DVD, where they get to SummerSlam 1991 and Warrior threatened to no-show if he didn't get paid upfront.

Sgt. Slaughter claimed Hulk Hogan wanted to break Warrior's leg along with Slaughter. Hogan admitted, "Well, you know, when I found out that the Warrior was, you know, demanding money and putting a gun to Vince's head, there's a certain element of....old school....'You know, We can fix that! Let us take the guy in the dressing room for 5 minutes. We can fix this for you, Vince.".
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 13, 2017, 04:45:29 PM
And after home of the brave add what ? 

Nothing.  Scrap the entire fucking song and start over.  Big fucking deal, one verse was taken out.  The rest is still there
and was authored by the same racist scumbag.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on September 13, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
Nothing.  Scrap the entire fucking song and start over.  Big fucking deal, one verse was taken out.  The rest is still there
and was authored by the same racist scumbag.

Racist scumbag? It wasn't written by a neegrul ?
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2017, 09:31:23 PM
Nothing.  Scrap the entire fucking song and start over.  Big fucking deal, one verse was taken out.  The rest is still there
and was authored by the same racist scumbag.

Amazes that you claim to be an professor at a university. It's people like you that turn our kids dumber when they come of college than going in. You must of been one of those kids that wanted to get a Liberal Arts Degree because you didn't want to do actual work.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 13, 2017, 09:32:10 PM
Amazes that you claim to be an professor at a university. It's people like you that turn our kids dumber when they come of college than going in. You must of been one of those kids that wanted to get a Liberal Arts Degree because you didn't want to do actual work.

You confuse me with someone else. I have never made any such claims.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 13, 2017, 09:50:03 PM
You confuse me with someone else. I have never made any such claims.

Maybe I am. Oh, I remember. It was Andreisdaman. Sorry.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on September 13, 2017, 09:51:24 PM
Maybe I am. Oh, I remember. It was Andreisdaman. Sorry.

I'm neither colored, nor a professor. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 05:08:29 AM
The NFL Is Seriously Concerned With Empty Stadiums
MSN ^ | September 13, 2017 | Ryan Phillips
Posted on 9/14/2017, 7:34:09 AM by C19fan

Week 1 of the NFL season had plenty of important stories worth following, but maybe the most entertaining was the mostly empty stadiums in Los Angeles and Santa Clara. Both the Los Angeles Rams and San Francisco 49ers had sparse crowds for their home openers, and that has not gone unnoticed by the NFL.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


________________________ ____________________


gOOD - I hope they realize that putting up w aholes like Kaperfag are a death sentence. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 14, 2017, 09:10:54 AM
The NFL Is Seriously Concerned With Empty Stadiums
MSN ^ | September 13, 2017 | Ryan Phillips
Posted on 9/14/2017, 7:34:09 AM by C19fan

Week 1 of the NFL season had plenty of important stories worth following, but maybe the most entertaining was the mostly empty stadiums in Los Angeles and Santa Clara. Both the Los Angeles Rams and San Francisco 49ers had sparse crowds for their home openers, and that has not gone unnoticed by the NFL.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


________________________ ____________________


gOOD - I hope they realize that putting up w aholes like Kaperfag are a death sentence. 

Even without Kaepernick, old school sports are in a state of secular decline. There's just too much to do these days. When those sports became really popular there were only three stations on television, and no internet.

Pro sports got greedy at the wrong time, building new stadiums and jacking up ticket prices. Of course, the league going ghetto big time hasn't helped.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nick Danger on September 14, 2017, 09:19:48 AM
Even without Kaepernick, old school sports are in a state of secular decline. There's just too much to do these days. When those sports became really popular there were only three stations on television, and no internet.

Pro sports got greedy at the wrong time, building new stadiums and jacking up ticket prices. Of course, the league going ghetto big time hasn't helped.

I'm not going to debate the greed of pro sports but franchise value and revenues have skyrocketed.
In 2010 there were about 10 billion dollar franchises, in 2017 there are well over 50.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 09:23:33 AM
I'm not going to debate the greed of pro sports but franchise value and revenues have skyrocketed.
In 2010 there were about 10 billion dollar franchises, in 2017 there are well over 50.

Who gives a fuk?   Personally I hope all these pos in the NFL, NBA, ESPN, etc - all go bankrupt - F em.  Same for college football - f em.  They want to be leftist pc - good - guess what when no one wants to spend money anymore supporting that leftist liberal nonsense? 

 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nick Danger on September 14, 2017, 09:32:51 AM
Who gives a fuk?   Personally I hope all these pos in the NFL, NBA, ESPN, etc - all go bankrupt - F em.  Same for college football - f em.  They want to be leftist pc - good - guess what when no one wants to spend money anymore supporting that leftist liberal nonsense? 

 

Cool, but I was responding to Thin Lizzy's post.

Leagues and franchises don't care about politics, they care about making money.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 09:35:07 AM
Cool, but I was responding to Thin Lizzy's post.

Leagues and franchises don't care about politics, they care about making money.

False - if that were the case they would not have thugs like Kapercunt in the league, thugs that populate ESPN talk shoes etc daily.  They have become pc organizations that are about anything but sports any more.

I used to spend $$ on tix games etc - now -  never.  I refuse to give a penny to these idiots and hope it all goes down. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 09:39:51 AM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tough-start-nfl-season-ratings-13-week-1-145729365.html


Good  -13% down
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nick Danger on September 14, 2017, 09:40:16 AM
False - if that were the case they would not have thugs like Kapercunt in the league, thugs that populate ESPN talk shoes etc daily.  They have become pc organizations that are about anything but sports any more.

I used to spend $$ on tix games etc - now -  never.  I refuse to give a penny to these idiots and hope it all goes down. 

Hope all you want, you are a minority to business owners. Your opinion doesn't carry the financial weight of the majority.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nick Danger on September 14, 2017, 09:41:54 AM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tough-start-nfl-season-ratings-13-week-1-145729365.html


Good  -13% down

They were down last year too but NFL revenue was at record numbers.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 14, 2017, 01:38:52 PM
I'm not going to debate the greed of pro sports but franchise value and revenues have skyrocketed.
In 2010 there were about 10 billion dollar franchises, in 2017 there are well over 50.

This is just starting now. I'm not saying they're going to collapse tomorrow but interest and viewership is down and it's going to translate to decreased revenue eventually. The NFL was seen as bulletproof but that obviously has turned out not to be the case.

The fan bases of all the major sports are getting older. Do you think they're really all going to be replaced by millennials?

(http://www.wealthmanagement.com/sites/wealthmanagement.com/files/uploads/2015/03/march-madness-age-breakdon.jpg)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2017, 03:04:58 PM
Some seriously creepy mofos running the NFL, I'd say.  When they began conspiring to turn innocent sport into a social-engineering project, complete with pink shoes, they done fucked up.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 14, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Some seriously creepy mofos running the NFL, I'd say.  When they began conspiring to turn innocent sport into a social-engineering project, complete with pink shoes, they done fucked up.

They over played their hand and forgot that they have a discretionary product. No one needs to watch football. We can all get along without it.


'Tough start' for NFL season — ratings down 13% in Week 1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/tough-start-nfl-season-ratings-13-week-1-145729365.html
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 14, 2017, 03:19:55 PM
They over played their hand and forgot that they have a discretionary product. No one needs to watch football. We can all get along without it.


'Tough start' for NFL season — ratings down 13% in Week 1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/tough-start-nfl-season-ratings-13-week-1-145729365.html

So Kapernick is or is not the reason?

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Nick Danger on September 14, 2017, 03:43:07 PM
They over played their hand and forgot that they have a discretionary product. No one needs to watch football. We can all get along without it.


'Tough start' for NFL season — ratings down 13% in Week 1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/tough-start-nfl-season-ratings-13-week-1-145729365.html

No one ever needed to watch football, I used to watch every game I could, last year I probably watched less than 10 games.

-ratings down 13% in week 1...probably has a lot to do with 2 hurricanes and alternatives to watching via television.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 14, 2017, 03:45:42 PM
So Kapernick is or is not the reason?



I don't think he's helped the situation but if you want a yes or no answer I'll go with no.

It's not just football. Golf is in a state of decline as is NASCAR.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2017, 06:03:11 PM
They over played their hand and forgot that they have a discretionary product. No one needs to watch football. We can all get along without it.


'Tough start' for NFL season — ratings down 13% in Week 1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/tough-start-nfl-season-ratings-13-week-1-145729365.html

Complete agreement, here.  It's almost as though they've grown stupid with their own bullgame, and have forgotten that it's nothing more than a meaningless pastime.  We'll be dragged along only so far with them, if they want to start acting stupid.  And Lord knows, they have done that.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TuHolmes on September 14, 2017, 06:16:24 PM
I don't think he's helped the situation but if you want a yes or no answer I'll go with no.

It's not just football. Golf is in a state of decline as is NASCAR.
I agree... Sports is just on a downward trend across the board.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 10, 2017, 10:08:41 AM
http://deadline.com/2017/10/vikings-win-monday-night-football-ratings-down-season-low-star-wars-bears-nfl-espn-1202185363



 ;)  :D  :D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on October 10, 2017, 12:07:34 PM
 NFL (No Fans Left)
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: jude2 on October 10, 2017, 07:26:12 PM
Looks like Trump is winning here also.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 22, 2018, 05:35:39 PM
I doubt they have the stones to do it. 

Report: NFL Considering 15-Yard Penalty for Kneeling During the National Anthem
22 May 2018

NFL owners proposed the idea of penalizing teams for kneeling during the national anthem, while at an offseason meeting in Atlanta on Tuesday.
According to Sports Illustrated, a suggestion was made to have the home team decide whether both squads would come out for the national anthem, or remain inside their locker rooms. Should the home team decide to come out, officials would assess a 15-yard penalty to any team whose players chose to protest during the anthem.

The idea was not well-received by sports journalists or fans:

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 I hope the NFL isn’t spending much time on this idea. Because it’s a dumb idea. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/999017170704240642 …
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 Better be a short discussion. That is industrial-strength stupid. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/999017170704240642 …
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 The idea that the NFL would assess penalties for players peacefully protesting before the game even begins is so absurd I don’t even know where to start.
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 For a group of billionaires NFL owners don’t seem to be a very bright lot.
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NFL owners discussing 15-yard penalty for kneeling during anthem, per @AlbertBreer https://ble.ac/2s337LC  pic.twitter.com/kt6mrMEoGD

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 All NFL owners could just go suck a big fat 🍋. Because first off the @NFL is what it is because of its fans, so don’t ever forget that. Second, since when was it ok for a mans/women political action be penalized?
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The NFL is now going into its third season of dealing with the anthem protest issue. The protests began in the preseason of 2016, when then-49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat, then knelt, during the playing of the national anthem.

Since then, hundreds of players across the league have either sat, knelt, or raised a fist during the anthem. The protests reached their peak in Week 3 of last year, after President Trump blasted NFL protesters at a political rally in Alabama. Calling the players “SOB’s,” and saying he wished their team owners would fire them. That weekend, hundreds of players, coaches, and executives protested.

However, the number of protesters dwindled in subsequent weeks to the point where there were only a dozen or so protesting in Week 17.

As The Hill notes, “Two players who were among the first to take a knee during the 2016 season — Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid — are now free agents. They have filed separate lawsuits against the NFL claiming owners colluded to keep them off of a team because of their history of protests.”

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/05/22/report-nfl-considering-15-yard-penalty-for-kneeling-during-the-national-anthem/
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: tonymctones on May 22, 2018, 06:53:29 PM
It’s dumb, I’m not a fan of players kneeling but this seems like over compensating.

For 2 years now the NFL has said they support the players right to protest and now they are changing their minds? They’re just trying to please the base NFL fans and this will cause more issues.

Just keep the players in the locker room during the anthem and avoid the issue all together.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 22, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
It’s dumb, I’m not a fan of players kneeling but this seems like over compensating.

For 2 years now the NFL has said they support the players right to protest and now they are changing their minds? They’re just trying to please the base NFL fans and this will cause more issues.

Just keep the players in the locker room during the anthem and avoid the issue all together.

They have been violating their own policy for two years.  They need to either enforce it or change it. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: TheGrinch on May 22, 2018, 07:14:54 PM
Legitimately.... what happens if both teams kneel?

Do the penalties offset or something? Then they have to replay the anthem?

WTF????

Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2018, 11:00:12 AM
New policy requires on-field players, personnel to stand for anthem

TLANTA -- NFL owners have unanimously approved a new national anthem policy that requires players to stand if they are on the field during the performance but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer, it was announced Wednesday.

The policy subjects teams to a fine if a player or any other team personnel do not show respect for the anthem. That includes any attempt to sit or kneel, as dozens of players have done during the past two seasons. Those teams will also have the option to fine any team personnel, including players, for the infraction.

"We want people to be respectful of the national anthem," commissioner Roger Goodell said. "We want people to stand -- that's all personnel -- and make sure they treat this moment in a respectful fashion. That's something we think we owe. [But] we were also very sensitive to give players choices."

All 32 owners approved the policy, which will be part of the NFL's game operations manual and thus not subject to collective bargaining. The NFL Players Association said in a statement that it will review the policy and "challenge any aspect" that is inconsistent with the CBA.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23582533/nfl-owners-approve-new-national-anthem-policy




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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on May 23, 2018, 11:55:05 AM
If you mad about other person's right to peaceful protest, you don't understand what it is to be an American. Period.
Do I feel a football game is the best place for it? No, I, and many people, watch sports to distract themselves for all the real world problems. But I understand every American has the same rights I do.
Maybe the NFL should go back to having the players stay in the locker rooms for the national anthem, that way racist fucks don't get butt hurt.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2018, 12:55:35 PM
If you mad about other person's right to peaceful protest, you don't understand what it is to be an American. Period.
Do I feel a football game is the best place for it? No, I, and many people, watch sports to distract themselves for all the real world problems. But I understand every American has the same rights I do.
Maybe the NFL should go back to having the players stay in the locker rooms for the national anthem, that way racist fucks don't get butt hurt.

The players don't have a First Amendment right to protest on their employer's time and dime, just like you don't have the right to say or do whatever you want in your workplace. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: mazrim on May 23, 2018, 01:05:46 PM
If you mad about other person's right to peaceful protest, you don't understand what it is to be an American. Period.
Do I feel a football game is the best place for it? No, I, and many people, watch sports to distract themselves for all the real world problems. But I understand every American has the same rights I do.
Maybe the NFL should go back to having the players stay in the locker rooms for the national anthem, that way racist fucks don't get butt hurt.
Your post makes no sense in this context.

Why isn't the nba racist for having their players stand for it? You sound like quite the racist actually.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on May 23, 2018, 01:08:34 PM
Maybe the NFL should go back to having the players stay in the locker rooms for the national anthem, that way racist fucks don't get butt hurt.

Lol. That's exactly what they are proposing... if you do not wish to participate you can stay in locker room.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on May 23, 2018, 02:13:15 PM
The players don't have a First Amendment right to protest on their employer's time and dime, just like you don't have the right to say or do whatever you want in your workplace.  
As long as it isn't against companies policies, yes their can knee before a game. policy have changed that they will have to respect the new policies.



Your post makes no sense in this context.

Why isn't the nba racist for having their players stand for it? You sound like quite the racist actually.

My post was very cut and dry, you don't understand? You sound very stupid actually.
NBA had the standing rule in place decades ago, Mahmoud Adbul-rauf got fined million of dollars in the 90's for this reason.
I never said the NFL was racist, I said some of the fans are.

Lol. That's exactly what they are proposing... if you do not wish to participate you can stay in locker room.

should be all of nothing, or do what they did and change the policy.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2018, 02:18:13 PM
As long as it isn't against companies policies, yes their can knee before a game. policy have changed that they will have to respect the new policies.


That's not correct.  A more accurate statement is:  as long as the company allows it.  It's a privilege, not a constitutional right. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on May 23, 2018, 02:27:38 PM
That's not correct.  A more accurate statement is:  as long as the company allows it.  It's a privilege, not a constitutional right. 
We can argue semantics all day, but the fact is private employees have rights unless an employer puts a policy and procedures limit on it and of course it doesn’t violate any laws in place.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on May 23, 2018, 02:28:30 PM
We can argue semantics all day, but the fact is private employees have rights unless an employer puts a policy and procedures limit on it and of course it doesn’t violate any laws in place.

Well they have a Players Union, they will be okay
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: HTexan on May 23, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
Well they have a Players Union, they will be okay
Nah, nfl owners get paid too much from the government to have flyovers.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on May 23, 2018, 03:02:24 PM
Nah, nfl owners get paid too much from the government to have flyovers.


Then the athletes can pick another league or sport to play. It's not a plantation.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2018, 05:02:32 PM
We can argue semantics all day, but the fact is private employees have rights unless an employer puts a policy and procedures limit on it and of course it doesn’t violate any laws in place.

This isn't semantics.  What you are saying is simply incorrect.  The First Amendment applies to the government, not private employers.  Your boss can censor your speech.  The government cannot (with some exceptions).  So no, private employees do not have a First Amendment right to protest.  They have the privilege to do what their company allows, or go work someplace else. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Yamcha on May 29, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 29, 2018, 07:38:06 PM
;D

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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Straw Man on May 29, 2018, 07:39:59 PM
more gay sex fantasies from right wing closet cases
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Straw Man on May 29, 2018, 07:46:10 PM
Former NFL long snapper and U.S. Army Green Beret Nate Boyer doesn’t approve of how the NFL has handled its new ban on kneeling for the national anthem.

The 37-year-old military veteran is the person who convinced former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick to take a knee instead of sitting during the anthem in the summer 2016.

On Friday, Boyer kicked off Memorial Day weekend by telling a San Diego sports talk radio station that the NFL once again has bungled the kneeling controversy.

“This was a big opportunity to bring the players to the discussion with the league and they didn’t do it,” Boyer told radio host Scott Kaplan and his 1090 radio station crew. “I don’t really understand that.”

Then on Monday, Boyer responded to a tweet from Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) who criticized the New York Jets owner Saturday for agreeing to pay his players’ protest fines. King compared taking a knee during the anthem to giving a Nazi salute.

“That’s a little farfetched... a lot farfetched, I should say.” Boyer said on CNN’s New Day. “Taking a knee was sort of born out of compromise between two people who didn’t necessarily agree on everything... You can’t compare it to a Nazi salute.”

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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on May 30, 2018, 12:18:27 AM
The argument here and across the country has been grotesquely distorted.  No one is protesting the troops or those who have served or died in the service of this country.  It's purely a protest against and to bring awareness to police brutality.  Period.  EOD.

I'll be rooting for the NY Jets this season. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 30, 2018, 07:58:26 AM
The argument here and across the country has been grotesquely distorted.  No one is protesting the troops or those who have served or died in the service of this country.  It's purely a protest against and to bring awareness to police brutality.  Period.  EOD.

I'll be rooting for the NY Jets this season. 

1)  Jets are terrible and will always be terrible. 

2)  The entire thing was based on a lie w that fat ghetto street thug Michael Brown bs "Hands Up Don't Shoot".     
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on May 30, 2018, 09:41:52 AM
The argument here and across the country has been grotesquely distorted.  No one is protesting the troops or those who have served or died in the service of this country.  It's purely a protest against and to bring awareness to police brutality.  Period.  EOD.

I'll be rooting for the NY Jets this season. 

You cannot separate the flag and anthem from the protests.  Armed forces or ROTC/JROTC members bring out the flag before the anthem, so there is a huge military component to the anthem at games.  And you are flat out wrong when you say the protest has nothing to do with the flag.  From his mouth when this thing started:

I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”

Yes, this is about not showing pride in the flag and his country. 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Griffith on May 30, 2018, 10:17:17 AM
You cannot separate the flag and anthem from the protests.  Armed forces or ROTC/JROTC members bring out the flag before the anthem, so there is a huge military component to the anthem at games.  And you are flat out wrong when you say the protest has nothing to do with the flag.  From his mouth when this thing started:

I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”

Yes, this is about not showing pride in the flag and his country. 

He grew up in the richest country in the world, has countless opportunities which most in the world don't have, and now gets a massive salary thanks to those same opportunities he had. He could at least be grateful.


Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on October 10, 2019, 10:35:44 PM
 :'(

Colin Kaepernick Still Trying To Play In NFL Despite ‘Little To No Response’
The former NFL quarterback has worked out “five days a week, for three years, in preparation to play again,” according to his agents.
By David Moye
10/10/2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-nfl-fact-sheet-agents_n_5d9fa9bae4b02c9da0474136?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Moontrane on October 10, 2019, 11:01:04 PM
:'(

Colin Kaepernick Still Trying To Play In NFL Despite ‘Little To No Response’
The former NFL quarterback has worked out “five days a week, for three years, in preparation to play again,” according to his agents.
By David Moye
10/10/2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-nfl-fact-sheet-agents_n_5d9fa9bae4b02c9da0474136?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

I bet he could get some boxing matches.  PPV for his first bout would be quite high, I suspect.  Any streams? 
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 11, 2019, 07:05:58 AM
:'(

Colin Kaepernick Still Trying To Play In NFL Despite ‘Little To No Response’
The former NFL quarterback has worked out “five days a week, for three years, in preparation to play again,” according to his agents.
By David Moye
10/10/2019
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-nfl-fact-sheet-agents_n_5d9fa9bae4b02c9da0474136?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067



He ain't real bright.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Option D on October 11, 2019, 09:24:58 AM
If I were president I would offer him death or be shipped back to Africa.


i think hes from the bay.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 11, 2019, 10:12:20 AM

i think hes from the bay.

He is obviously miserable living in the USA.   
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 11, 2019, 10:26:05 AM
I don't care if he's the next coming of Brady, If I were an owner, GM or coach I wouldn't let him within 50 miles of a football stadium
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: AbrahamG on October 11, 2019, 05:08:47 PM
I don't care if he's the next coming of Brady, If I were an owner, GM or coach I wouldn't let him within 50 miles of a football stadium

Obvious penis envy.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: chaos on October 11, 2019, 06:51:48 PM
LOL
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 11, 2019, 07:34:08 PM
He is obviously miserable living in the USA.   


Would love to see him play some rugby overseas. By play I mean get flattened.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Tapeworm on October 11, 2019, 11:13:10 PM
You can come and do drywall with me, Colin, so I don't forget to check my privilege. Got to kneel for the bottom boards anyway.
Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Dos Equis on November 18, 2019, 09:26:47 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 18, 2019, 10:25:23 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: IroNat on November 18, 2019, 10:35:29 AM
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Title: Re: Kaepernick will sit through anthem until there's change
Post by: jude2 on November 18, 2019, 05:01:31 PM
Awesome! ^  :D
That's great.