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Title: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: loco on May 27, 2011, 06:36:14 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_patriot_act

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Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 27, 2011, 06:38:21 AM
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 06:40:03 AM
Congress bumped up against the deadline mainly because of the stubborn resistance from a single senator, Republican freshman Rand Paul of Kentucky, who saw the terrorist-hunting powers as an abuse of privacy rights. Paul held up the final vote for several days while he demanded a chance to change the bill to diminish the government's ability to monitor individual actions.

Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
Holy fuck, cock blocked by a speedy 333386 again.  :'( :)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Freeborn126 on May 27, 2011, 06:40:59 AM
Four more years of Orwellian police state.  I guess the patriot act is ok now for all the liberal obamanoids now that they have a liberal black president.  
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 06:43:16 AM
Four more years of Orwellian police state.  I guess the patriot act is ok now for all the liberal obamanoids now that they have a liberal black president.  

Pretty much. Not a fucking peep.

All the ones that piss and moaned while it was Bush should get a severe bitch slap, starting with Bill Maher.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Freeborn126 on May 27, 2011, 06:47:14 AM



The Republic is just about done for.  Thankyou uniformed American public.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: whork25 on May 27, 2011, 06:47:48 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_patriot_act

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Fuck you Obama
He is worse than Bush on this at least when Bush enforced this people scared shitless after 9/11
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 27, 2011, 06:51:06 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Meh.  Big deal.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 27, 2011, 03:04:09 PM
Congress bumped up against the deadline mainly because of the stubborn resistance from a single senator, Republican freshman Rand Paul of Kentucky, who saw the terrorist-hunting powers as an abuse of privacy rights. Paul held up the final vote for several days while he demanded a chance to change the bill to diminish the government's ability to monitor individual actions.



People like Paul give me faith in the future.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 27, 2011, 03:48:34 PM
Meh.  Big deal.
stfu nazi
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Deicide on May 27, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
Meh.  Big deal.

Jesus man...seriously...you scare me sometimes. :o
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
stfu nazi

Kiss where the sun doesn't shine doofus.   ::)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Jesus man...seriously...you scare me sometimes. :o

I scare me sometimes.   :D
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 05:18:03 PM
Meh.  Big deal.

well, surprise, surprise.

 Sometimes I think Beach would probably also well up with pride in a system that billed him if his family members werent in the right government approved caloric intake zone whenever eating.

 


 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Fury on May 27, 2011, 05:19:09 PM
Four more years of Orwellian police state.  I guess the patriot act is ok now for all the liberal obamanoids now that they have a liberal black president.  

They're cool with Obama interjecting us into a war in Libya so why wouldn't they be cool with their God-King renewing the Patriot Act? Nothing this guy does can bother them.* He's dolomite, baby!







*For proof of said claim, look at all the fucking drones on here that defend everything he does. Every. Single. Thing.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 05:23:38 PM
well, surprise, surprise.

 Sometimes I think Beach would probably also well up with pride in a system that billed him if his family members werent in the right caloric intake zone whenever eating.

 

Whatever the heck that means. 

As I've said many times, I doubt most of the people complaining about the Patriot Act have even read it.  Have you? 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 05:24:25 PM
Whatever the heck that means. 

As I've said many times, I doubt most of the people complaining about the Patriot Act have even read it.  Have you? 

Have you?
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
Have you?

Yes.  Have you? 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 05:51:23 PM
Yes.  Have you? 

I only read a summary of the Bill.

I  dont have time to read all 300 pages like you did.  ::)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 06:07:44 PM
I only read a summary of the Bill.

I  dont have time to read all 300 pages like you did.  ::)

Which part are you concerned about? 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 27, 2011, 07:27:19 PM
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/surveillance-under-usa-patriot-act

For the idiot that doesn't realize what a threat to our freedom this treasonous act poses...
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 07:37:05 PM
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/surveillance-under-usa-patriot-act

For the idiot that doesn't realize what a threat to our freedom this treasonous act poses...

oh he gets it, afterall he read all 300 pages of the Act. One of about 30 other people who actually did.

It doesnt matter anyway, some people have this whole philosphy of, if Im not doing anything wrong, what is there to worry about? No amount of facts, examples of abuse of power, etc.. will ever change their mind unless the shit hits the fan in their own little bubble world, then they sit there scratching their heads wondering what the hell happened.

Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 08:32:23 PM
oh he gets it, afterall he read all 300 pages of the Act. One of about 30 other people who actually did.

It doesnt matter anyway, some people have this whole philosphy of, if Im not doing anything wrong, what is there to worry about? No amount of facts, examples of abuse of power, etc.. will ever change their mind unless the shit hits the fan in their own little bubble world, then they sit there scratching their heads wondering what the hell happened.



This is comical.  I have been asking people on this board for about four years what part of the Patriot Act they have a problem with and have yet to get a reasonable, coherent response. 

What part do you have a problem with and why? 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: 225for70 on May 27, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
I don't think Obama can sign the patriot act with this birth certificate.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 09:06:49 PM
This is comical.  I have been asking people on this board for about four years what part of the Patriot Act they have a problem with and have yet to get a reasonable, coherent response. 

What part do you have a problem with and why? 

Whats comical is that you expect anyone to believe that you read the thing and that's when this discussion stops.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 09:33:33 PM
Whats comical is that you expect anyone to believe that you read the thing and that's when this discussion stops.

lol.  And some of you have the audacity to call the majority of people stupid and uniformed.   ::)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 09:38:11 PM
lol.  And some of you have the audacity to call the majority of people stupid and uniformed.   ::)

Whatever buddy, why dont you go read the  800 page TARP Bill just to make sure it was really good for the country, after all, us critics might be wrong.    ::) ::)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 09:41:41 PM
Whatever buddy, why dont you go read the  800 page TARP Bill and make sure it was really good for the country, after all, us critics might be wrong.

Hey can you list some other dastardly pieces of legislation that you haven't read that are also taking away your rights and destroying America?   :)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: 225for70 on May 27, 2011, 09:43:59 PM
beach Bum Believes some lady from Hawaii verified that barry's LFBC was legit..

He also belives the government story about 9/11/.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 09:48:51 PM
beach Bum Believes some lady from Hawaii verified that barry's LFBC was legit..

He also belives the government story about 9/11/.


By some lady do you mean the Director of the State Department of Health?  How dare I believe that woman over some kid on the internet who made a youtube video. 

Oh Lord.  Are you 9/11 CT nut?   ::)

And what does this have to do with Patriot Act? 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 27, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
Hey can you list some other dastardly pieces of legislation that you haven't read that are also taking away your rights and destroying America?   :)


don't worry BB, some of us will continue fighting for the republic and your freedom, even while youre being a fibbing dickhead.  :P
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 09:57:40 PM
don't worry BB, some of us will continue fighting for the republic and your freedom, even while youre being a fibbing dickhead.  :P

lol.  Hey it's o.k.  If you read the board you will see a very clear pattern with people who are unable discuss issues without getting all worked up.  Disagree with them, or ask a few questions, and they start acting like toddlers.  Pretty funny.   :)

And yes, keep fighting for "the republic" and my "freedom," by complaining about laws you haven't read. 

Wait, how exactly are you fighting for "the republic" and my "freedom"?   
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: 225for70 on May 27, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
don't worry BB, some of us will continue fighting for the republic and your freedom, even while youre being a fibbing dickhead.  :P

Don't be so hard on him..He was over exposed to dangerous mind altering chemicals while he was in the army..He lost the ability to think for himself..Beach will believe the easter bunny exists if the governmemt said so.

Hate to be negative beach. However, this is how i see you from across the INTERNET.
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 10:01:08 PM
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Don't be so hard on him..He was over exposed to dangerous mind altering chemicals while he was in the army..He lost the ability to think for himself..Beach will believe the easter bunny exists if the governmemt said so.

Nah.  I was part of the government conspiracy to blow up the WTC.   :)
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: 225for70 on May 27, 2011, 10:04:13 PM
Nah.  I was part of the government conspiracy to blow up the WTC.   :)

I once confronted you with evidence about put option contracts on the airline stocks in the days before 9/11..That was an indication that someone knew something...

Your response was, purely 100% retarded..Even when the statement is regarded as 100% fact by the securities industry
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
I once confronted you with evidence about put option contracts on the airline stocks in the days before 9/11..That was an indication that someone knew something...

Your response was, purely 100% retarded..Even when the statement is regarded as 100% fact by the securities industry

LOL!  Yes, you really confounded me. 

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No offense to you Beachbum for serving our country..However, How do you explain the massive amount of Put options on the airlines stocks? The options market for airline stocks wasn't exactly the most liquid market...All the sudden put option huge volume spikes in the week before the attack? The put/call ratio for United Airlines was 25 times above normal on September 6. 4...That's fucking insane..

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

Put options are basically bets that the stock price of an underlying company stock will decline in value. It's a zero sum bet essentially.


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Assuming that is true, why do I need to explain it? 
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 28, 2011, 01:35:34 PM
don't worry BB, some of us will continue fighting for the republic and your freedom, even while youre being a fibbing dickhead.  :P

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Obama signs Patriot Act extension from France with autopen
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 29, 2011, 07:20:40 PM

Rep. Graves questions Obama's autopen signing of Patriot Act extension
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/163683-gop-rep-questions-obamas-use-of-autopen-in-signing-patriot-act

 By Daniel Strauss - 05/27/11 11:17 AM ET



Rep. Tom Graves (R-Ga.) is questioning President Obama's use of an autopen in signing an extension of the Patriot Act.

In a letter Friday, Graves asks Obama to confirm that he saw the law prior to its autopen signing.

"Mr. President, I write to request your confirmation that S. 990, as passed by Congress, was presented to you prior to the autopen signing, as well as a detailed, written explanation of your Constitutional authority to assign a surrogate the responsibility of signing bills passed into law," Graves wrote.






 

Obama signed the bill into law late Thursday night. The autopen was used because the president was in France, meeting with G8 leaders, and the bill's provisions expired at midnight.

Graves cited Article 1 Section 7 of the Constitution, which says that the president must sign a bill to approve it into law.

"Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it," the article reads.

Read Graves's letter below: