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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2007, 06:58:48 PM »
This is not about the 5th and 14th Amendments to me.

I disagree with saying that it's sacred, yet choosing to remove it's "sanctity" as you see fit (not you personally of course)... It's the hypocrisy I disagree with.

If people are pro-life, they should be pro-life to all... not just when it suits them.

I see where you're coming from.  Your position is life is sacred and because it's sacred it can never be taken by the government.

I have a different view.  I think life is sacred, and like other rights are also sacred, it can be forfeited.  It isn't an absolute right IMO.   

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2007, 07:01:21 PM »
I see where you're coming from.  Your position is life is sacred and because it's sacred it can never be taken by the government.

I have a different view.  I think life is sacred, and like other rights are also sacred, it can be forfeited.  It isn't an absolute right IMO.   

But when you create a law... You're creating an absolute right.

I never said I found human life completely sacred... Mike Huckabee did... but yet still has a death penalty.

There are many hypocrites out there.

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2007, 07:24:32 PM »
1.  Holiness of life or disposition; saintliness.
2. The quality or condition of being considered sacred; inviolability.
3. Something considered sacred.


You're either protecting life, or you're not... "Life" is not different... You are alive or you're dead. You're either for protecting, or you're not... Choose your side.

The only reason I choose to side against abortion is that person inside doesn't get a chance. In war or death penalty the people that die do have choices. And no innocent people are intentionally killed.

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2007, 08:25:35 PM »
But when you create a law... You're creating an absolute right.

I never said I found human life completely sacred... Mike Huckabee did... but yet still has a death penalty.

There are many hypocrites out there.

What law are you talking about?  What law created an absolute right to life? 

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2007, 08:27:09 PM »
What law are you talking about?  What law created an absolute right to life? 

Well, our Declaration of independence states so... and it is a legal document.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2007, 08:57:29 PM »
Well, our Declaration of independence states so... and it is a legal document.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

I don't think the Declaration of Independence is a governing document.  Our governing document is the Constitution, which says you can lose your right to life:

The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution says:

“ No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law .... ”

The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution says:

“ No State shall ... deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law .... ”

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2007, 08:59:14 PM »
I don't think the Declaration of Independence is a governing document.  Our governing document is the Constitution, which says you can lose your right to life:

The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution says:

“ No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law .... ”

The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution says:

“ No State shall ... deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law .... ”


I would argue that the Declaration of Independence is in fact our FIRST governing document... It is studied in law schools along side the constitution.

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2007, 09:06:52 PM »
I would argue that the Declaration of Independence is in fact our FIRST governing document... It is studied in law schools along side the constitution.

It probably is our first governing document, but it has been superseded.  :) 

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Re: Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2007, 09:36:57 PM »
It probably is our first governing document, but it has been superseded.  :) 
perhaps, but that doesn't change what we founded our country on...