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Looks like a few of Obama's boys have been caught...
WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., says that at least ten fighters for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria have been apprehended while attempting to enter the southern U.S. border.
The California Republican claims that “at least ten ISIS fighters have been caught coming across the Mexican border in Texas,” in a conversation with Fox News on Tuesday. Hunter says that the Islamic terrorists are slipping into the U.S. through the porous southern border as several have already been captured.
“There’s nobody talking about it,” Rep. Hunter told Fox. “If you really want to protect Americans from ISIS, you secure the southern border. It’s that simple…They caught them at the border, therefore we know that ISIS is coming across the border. If they catch five or ten of them then you know there’s going to be dozens more that did not get caught by the border patrol.”
In August, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, warned that the open border posed an “immediate threat” for terrorist activity infiltrating the country. The government watchdog group, Judicial Watch, said ISIS terrorists were “planning to attack the United States with car bombs or other vehicle born [sic] improvised explosive devices.”
Hunter, a member of the House Armed Services Committee, said that 1,933-mile southern border with Mexico is the obvious entry point for Islamic State terrorists. He says that information regarding the capture of Islamic State terrorists crossing the border comes directly from U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
“ISIS doesn’t have a navy, they don’t have an air force, they don’t have nuclear weapons. The only way that ISIS is going to harm Americans is by coming through the southern border – which they already have,” he added.
“They aren’t flying B-1 bombers, bombing American cities,” said Hunter. “But they are going to be bombing American cities coming across from Mexico…All you have to do is ask the border patrol.”
The Department of Homeland Security released a statement on Wednesday that claims alleging Islamic State militants have been apprehended at the Mexican border are “categorically false.”
“The suggestion that individuals who have ties to ISIL have been apprehended at the Southwest border is categorically false, and not supported by any credible intelligence or the facts on the ground,” a DHS spokesman said in a statement today. “DHS continues to have no credible intelligence to suggest terrorist organizations are actively plotting to cross the southwest border.”
After Hunter’s comments to Fox, one of his sources nuanced their claims, saying that some of those apprehended at the border might be ISIS-affiliated or possibly Americans who fought with the Syrian Free Army – one of my ISIS enemies.
In a statement to ABC News, a spokesperson for Hunter said he was not backing down on the claims.
“The Congressman was conveying what he knows — and what he was told,” the spokesperson told ABC. “It makes sense that the left hand of DHS doesn’t know what the right hand is doing — it’s been that way for a long time and we don’t expect that to change.”
– Benjamin Fearnow
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/gop-rep-at-least-ten-isis-fighters-have-been-caught-coming-across-the-mexican-border/
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Kinda weird that at this point he's not backing down....
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I find it more strange that they can catch these fuckers, but not Mexicans
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really weird a congressionman breaks this news.
What border agency reports directly to their congressman without this HUGE STORY leaking to the press somewhere along the way?
Either he said something he wasn't supposed to, or he was exaggerating to sound important on FOX news. It's so unusual for US Customs and Border to have info so top secret that the public doesn't hear it... but a congressman can report it on FOX lol.
Weird all around.
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Coach, while I disagree with Obama's policies FERVENTLY on this issue (I think he is being an utter retard with border control or lack of and I believe he should put troops on the ground in syria/iraq/even turkey to prevent what is coming next) I don't think you can say these are "obama's boys".
I mean c'mon. Explain that.
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Coach, while I disagree with Obama's policies FERVENTLY on this issue (I think he is being an utter retard with border control or lack of and I believe he should put troops on the ground in syria/iraq/even turkey to prevent what is coming next) I don't think you can say these are "obama's boys".
I mean c'mon. Explain that.
after that he can explain how he got duped yet again and has publicly humiliated himself with yet another lie by a member of his party
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after that he can explain how he got duped yet again and has publicly humiliated himself with yet another lie by a member of his party
You thought ISIS was made up and a lie, didn't you?
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You thought ISIS was made up and a lie, didn't you?
GOP Rep: ‘At Least Ten ISIS Fighters Have Been Caught Coming Across The Mexican
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GOP Rep: ‘At Least Ten ISIS Fighters Have Been Caught Coming Across The Mexican
And?? You act like it wasn't possible. Haha. Maybe you don't realize what your terrorist-in-chief has created.
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They found a prayer rug on the border and now they are going nuts. Joe, you're a fucking idiot.
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And?? You act like it wasn't possible. Haha. Maybe you don't realize what your terrorist-in-chief has created.
And the DHS chief said that's an outright lie.
So... either Rep. Hunter made up some shit on the spot to rile up FOX viewers and get this rumor going on message boards, and he's willing to make people scared with lies in order to reach his political goals...
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it is true, and everyone from Customs to Homeland Security and all the Cali leadership and border patrol and everyone else is keeping it secret for some reason, and Rep Hunter has no problem leaking top secret intel when politically convenient, to a news station watched by his base.
Either way, sorry, he looks like total shit on this issue. If the only defense now is, "well, it's POSSIBLE", and you're completely cool with our leaders making up bullshit ona whim to scare people, then you gotta stop complaining when obama does this bullshit too. Gotta hold all politicians to this standards - And Rep. Hunter is either leaking classified info, or just a big lying fearmonger.
It's time to back away support for Rep Hunter and change this to "let's wait and see..." because defending him any more will just make you regret it later once we hear his apology today for "confusion" or whatever. Although his office wasn't backing down- they reaffirmed his claim later yesterday.
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They found a prayer rug on the border and now they are going nuts. Joe, you're a fucking idiot.
wasn't that prayer rug actually a soccer jersey?
http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854
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wasn't that prayer rug actually a soccer jersey?
http://gawker.com/breitbart-com-is-sure-this-adidas-shirts-an-islamo-mexi-1603045854
Never saw the proof but if that's it....then that's a fucking jersey... :D
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Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson is pushing back against a claim made by Rep. Duncan Hunter that at least 10 Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant fighters were apprehended trying to come into the U.S. from Mexico.
“We have no credible, specific intelligence to that effect,” Johnson said of ISIL insurgents illegally entering the country from along the southern border on CNN Wednesday evening. “And I look at the intelligence reports from overseas from our southern border from our intelligence community virtually every day, numerous times a day, to be on the lookout for something of that nature. So, what I’d say to the American public is we’re vigilant in looking out for individuals of suspicion who may be crossing our border.”
The top DHS official didn’t mention Hunter, a California Republican congressman, by name. But on several occasions, Johnson said that public officials have a “responsibility” to not “unnecessarily frighten the American public.”
“Let’s not unduly create fear and anxiety in the American public by passing on speculation and rumor,” the secretary told host Wolf Blitzer.
Blitzer asked specifically about comments made Tuesday evening by Hunter, a member of the House Armed Services Committee. “[A]t least 10 ISIS fighters have been caught coming across the Mexican border in Texas,” the congressman said during an interview on Fox News, citing information from source from Customs and Border Protection, which is under DHS authority. Hunter also suggested that it was likely that “dozens” of others linked to the terrorist group that has recently beheaded two American journalists and two British aid workers would likely not get caught by border agents and make their way into the U.S.
On Wednesday, DHS flatly said that Hunter’s claim was unfounded. “The suggestion that individuals who have ties to ISIL have been apprehended at the southwest border is categorically false, and not supported by any credible intelligence or the facts on the ground,” a DHS spokesperson said.
Judicial Watch reported later Wednesday that four “Islamic terrorists” had been seized along the southern border in 36 hours.
Hunter’s deputy chief of staff, Joe Kasper, told POLITICO that the congressman stands by his statement, which came from a conversation with a “high-level” source, but didn’t elaborate when asked about the individuals’ specific ties to ISIL.
In September, Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah claimed that four men linked to terrorist organizations tried to cross the border earlier that month.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/isil-us-border-homeland-security-duncan-hunter-111722.html#ixzz3FeBbtd91
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Congressman whose district is San Diego has secret intel from the Texas border patrol that hasn't made its way to DHS yet. Amazing.
It's the top news story all over right now, on both the conservative and liberal news sites. Either ISIS was stopped at the border, and it's some INCREDIBLE news that we stopped a terror attack, and Hunter leaked this classified info for whatever reason... OR Rep Hunter is a fearmonger, cawksucking liar, trying to scare people to gain a political edge.
Personally, I believe he just made it up on the spot to scare people.
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Well again...there are towns in central America that look like downtown Bagdad. We've known for years that that they'll try and cross anywhere to get here. We know that Quds sleepers are in the US. I bet idiots like Vince thought flying planes into buildings was sci-fi. Should something happen can we use your business income to pay back the victims....only seems fair as the threat is so low.
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I'm skeptical about this information. Time will tell.
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I am to....not because I don't believe its possible but Duncan Hunter is not an idiot. Stuff like this is better leaked then flat out said in an interview. Plus u gotta bring forth proof.
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I am to....not because I don't believe its possible but Duncan Hunter is not an idiot. Stuff like this is better leaked then flat out said in an interview. Plus u gotta bring forth proof.
I agree, without evidence a subtle leak is better. If its complete BS it will only make Hunter look bad . Worth looking into, for sure.
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I am to....not because I don't believe its possible but Duncan Hunter is not an idiot. Stuff like this is better leaked then flat out said in an interview. Plus u gotta bring forth proof.
ten ISIS members would be a HUGE catch. I mean, that's a terror cell or two. That's multiple attacks. That's a HUGE deal. This is catching Atta with a flat tire on the evening of Sept 10th and locking his ass up. This is HUGE.
So if they do have these guys, maybe they're pumping them for intel, which means Hunter just OUTED an intelligence source in an ongoing investigation. Terrible.
Or they don't really have these guys (my suspicion) and he just exaggerated on the spot. I'm fine if people want to exaggerate their bench press or 40 time... but in this case, people can get killed over this... if I live in TX and I see "ISIS border invasion" and I have fewer IQ points than teeth, I'm a trigger happy hillbilly this morning after watching FOX news.
Aside from that, he's scaring americans. He's making people in our awesome nation more scared. He's elected to protect us, and screaming boogeyman 24/7 in someone's face is not how you do that. LYING on the mass media to just make people more scared, that's some bullshit right there.
And he'll blame it on some bullshit too... "I received some bad reports, I misspoke, I was talking about something else" and the sheep followers that parroted the first story will do the same for the second. They'll walk away feeling like they were right all along somehow.
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ten ISIS members would be a HUGE catch. I mean, that's a terror cell or two. That's multiple attacks. That's a HUGE deal. This is catching Atta with a flat tire on the evening of Sept 10th and locking his ass up. This is HUGE.
So if they do have these guys, maybe they're pumping them for intel, which means Hunter just OUTED an intelligence source in an ongoing investigation. Terrible.
Or they don't really have these guys (my suspicion) and he just exaggerated on the spot. I'm fine if people want to exaggerate their bench press or 40 time... but in this case, people can get killed over this... if I live in TX and I see "ISIS border invasion" and I have fewer IQ points than teeth, I'm a trigger happy hillbilly this morning after watching FOX news.
Aside from that, he's scaring americans. He's making people in our awesome nation more scared. He's elected to protect us, and screaming boogeyman 24/7 in someone's face is not how you do that. LYING on the mass media to just make people more scared, that's some bullshit right there.
And he'll blame it on some bullshit too... "I received some bad reports, I misspoke, I was talking about something else" and the sheep followers that parroted the first story will do the same for the second. They'll walk away feeling like they were right all along somehow.
Another reason to keep quiet is that if terrorist were captured crossing the border it puts pressure on the Obama administration to actually secure the border.
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Another reason to keep quiet is that if terrorist were captured crossing the border it puts pressure on the Obama administration to actually secure the border.
Eh, maybe, but it's weak. You have so many repubs with so many quote on "act of love" and "let the children in" and whatnot... Maybe that's it, but really, I doubt it.
If Obama CAPTURED ISIS fighters, wow, it'd be a HUGE win, and you'd better believe the guy who can't order a soda without mentioning he killed Bin laden, would be talking about the bust 24/7. Unless it was ongoing.
The flippant way Hunter blurted it out... to me, it sounded like a dude on some meds just getting a little loopy and pushing a somewhat believable lie that would be red meat to his base. I bet his donor dollars skyrocketed last night for his "honesty while obama/DHS/Border patrol all lie to us".
It just seemed to weird that a san diego congressman would leak this about a TX border bust. More likely, he just made it up to scare people. That's a dick move.
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Oddly all the places that Obama dumped the 3rd worlders are the same places these kids are getting this weird and deadly virus.
I don't know what Hunter's aims are.
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Oddly all the places that Obama dumped the 3rd worlders are the same places these kids are getting this weird and deadly virus.
I don't know what Hunter's aims are.
his aims are to rile up the segment of his party so that is so fucking stupid that they believe everything they hear. It's the group that is made up of people that are so fucking stupid that when they find out something isn't true they make posts like this in defense of their stupidity
And?? You act like it wasn't possible. Haha. Maybe you don't realize what your terrorist-in-chief has created.
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his aims are to rile up the segment of his party so that is so fucking stupid that they believe everything they hear. It's the group that is made up of people that are so fucking stupid that when they find out something isn't true they make posts like this in defense of their stupidity
LOL - yeah things are great bro - Obama admn go this. LMFAO!!!!
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LOL - yeah things are great bro - Obama admn go this. LMFAO!!!!
here comes 333 to dumb down the thread until Coach returns
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here comes 333 to dumb down the thread until Coach returns
Hey idiot - when Jimmuh is even trashing gaybama all over the place for his failed presidency - best to stop digging
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Hey idiot - when Jimmuh is even trashing gaybama all over the place for his failed presidency - best to stop digging
that's got nothing to do with a believing a bullshit story from Duncan Hunter
good job though working in your gay infatuation with Obama
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that's got nothing to do with a believing a bullshit story from Duncan Hunter
Duncan really did punk his base here. And rather than say "Wow, what a fearmongering piece of shit", the only defense is "well, it COULD happen, and you libs won't admit it, etc..."
Imagine if obama went on TV and told us a meteor was going to crush earth in 24 hours. Then, after 24 hours of looting and murder, he comes back on TV joking "oops, I got some bad info, but hey, don't act like it COULDNT happen..."
yeah, I'm sure everyone would be laughing at his little prank, nothing wrong with scaring the shit out of the population. Sheesh.
I will give 333386 props.... if it's revealed Duncan Hunter just made the shit up, 33 will call him a lying fearmonger. He's had no problem attacking bush for his crap. Other repubs, nah, they will find a way to believe Hunter did nothing wrong here.
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Duncan really did punk his base here. And rather than say "Wow, what a fearmongering piece of shit", the only defense is "well, it COULD happen, and you libs won't admit it, etc..."
Imagine if obama went on TV and told us a meteor was going to crush earth in 24 hours. Then, after 24 hours of looting and murder, he comes back on TV joking "oops, I got some bad info, but hey, don't act like it COULDNT happen..."
yeah, I'm sure everyone would be laughing at his little prank, nothing wrong with scaring the shit out of the population. Sheesh.
I will give 333386 props.... if it's revealed Duncan Hunter just made the shit up, 33 will call him a lying fearmonger. He's had no problem attacking bush for his crap. Other repubs, nah, they will find a way to believe Hunter did nothing wrong here.
Why would ISIS try to invade the S border? Obama is destroying this country faster than any terrorist in his wildest dreams could ever imagine
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Why would ISIS try to invade the S border? Obama is destroying this country faster than any terrorist in his wildest dreams could ever imagine
Most of ISIS is too busy in Syria trading limbs with Syrian military, which is great for two USA goals.
I have no idea why a person would lie to scare the shit out of Americans. But it is sounding like Hunter did exactly that.
Either that, or he just chose to leak classified info randomly. But I don't think that's it... nobody from the right is jumping to his defense lol, which says a lot.
He'll wait til Friday afternoon to quietly put out a "oops" press release and hope everyone forgets over the weekend. Typical fearmonger.
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his aims are to rile up the segment of his party so that is so fucking stupid that they believe everything they hear. It's the group that is made up of people that are so fucking stupid that when they find out something isn't true they make posts like this in defense of their stupidity
Yes, because everything that has been said and predicted has been bullshit up until that point..right? So just to be clear on your end, you DON'T think it's possible for ISIS to be crossing the boarders. Am I understanding you correctly? Only because you didn't answer the first time.
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Yes, because everything that has been said and predicted has been bullshit up until that point..right? So just to be clear on your end, you DON'T think it's possible for ISIS to be crossing the boarders. Am I understanding you correctly? Only because you didn't answer the first time.
I never said it wasn't possible.
This debate is about this congressman telling us it actually happened. Hunter didn't say "It COULD happen". He said "It DID happen". That's the difference.
hunter wasn't talking hypotheticals, and nobody here is saying it isn't possible. Yes, it's possible. Please don't say I think it's not possible, I think it's a very real possibility, which is why I think fckbama, shitperry, dickromney, pissChristie, and the rest of those punk ass RINOs and libs on amnesty should not be president in 2016.
So now that I'm very clear it's POSSIBLE... what do you think about DHS saying Hunter is full of shit?
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Yes, because everything that has been said and predicted has been bullshit up until that point..right? So just to be clear on your end, you DON'T think it's possible for ISIS to be crossing the boarders. Am I understanding you correctly? Only because you didn't answer the first time.
I think that Duncan Hunter is a liar and you're a certified idiot
This is the third blatant lie that you've posted here in the last couple of months and I'm sure it won't be the last time you get punked by your own party
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Why would ISIS try to invade the S border? Obama is destroying this country faster than any terrorist in his wildest dreams could ever imagine
you must be referring to your actual dreams because the country is fine and I'm sure millions of Syrians and Iraqi's would prefer to be here than where they are.
The only downside to coming to the US for them would be having to share the country with idiots like you
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And?? You act like it wasn't possible. Haha. Maybe you don't realize what your terrorist-in-chief has created.
Where did anyone say it "wasn't possible"?
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I don't think anyone has said that. It's entirely possible. It's just not likely that a san diego congressman would reveal the HUGE story about terrist border bust, on FOX news lol. It'd be the story of the year to stop another 911, and a HUGE win for the Border Patrol/Texas. To think obama/rick perry woudln't be clawing each other's eyes out to claim victory for that...
like so many herman cain denials, it just smelled fishy. Just didn't seem right a congressman muttering to FOX news would casually release the story of the year.
So to be clear - everyone admits it's possible ISIS uses the border to get in. Most of us also believe Hunter made this shit up.
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I think that Duncan Hunter is a liar and you're a certified idiot
This is the third blatant lie that you've posted here in the last couple of months and I'm sure it won't be the last time you get punked by your own party
Answer the question. Are you denying it isn't possible? Obama lies literally on a daily basis and buy into his bullshit. Are you fucking kidding me?
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Answer the question. Are you denying it isn't possible? Obama lies literally on a daily basis and buy into his bullshit. Are you fucking kidding me?
given that UK and US citizens are fighting with ISIS right now it's more likely that they would enter the US via regular transportation but if it makes you feel better about getting punked by Duncan then I'm sure it's possible that if ISIS were in Mexico that they, like millions of others, could potentially cross the border.
Now, what does that have to do with Duncan talking out of his ass and you believing it and humiliating yourself yet again on this board by posting another proven lie?
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given that UK and US citizens are fighting with ISIS right now it's more likely that they would enter the US via regular transportation but if it makes you feel better about getting punked by Duncan then I'm sure it's possible that if ISIS were in Mexico that they, like millions of others, could potentially cross the border.
Now, what does that have to do with Duncan talking out of his ass and you believing it and humiliating yourself yet again on this board by posting another proven lie?
Well, I guess you got me. If the Obama administration denies it, you know it isn't true..hahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2784525/INVASION-California-congressman-claims-ten-ISIS-fighters-caught-coming-Mexican-border-Texas.html
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Well, I guess you got me. If the Obama administration denies it, you know it isn't true..hahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2784525/INVASION-California-congressman-claims-ten-ISIS-fighters-caught-coming-Mexican-border-Texas.html
Why are you posting an article from 2 days ago when this was debunked yesterday
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O-gayboy is doing great - that's why jimmus, panneta, Hillary, et all are trashing him and his failed presidency
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Well, I guess you got me. If the Obama administration denies it, you know it isn't true..hahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2784525/INVASION-California-congressman-claims-ten-ISIS-fighters-caught-coming-Mexican-border-Texas.html
The TX border patrol, under Rick Perry, denies it too. So does National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/08/congressman-at-least-10-isis-fighters-caught-trying-to-cross-into-us/?
At this point, coach, we usually say "oops, good point, looks like Hunter is lying" and we all have a beer. Defending it by saying Obama, border patrol, and everyone else is in on a grand lie makes this a huge conspiracy theory.
Do you believe Hunter, still? Or do you think he was just bullshittin' to scare people?
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O-gayboy is doing great - that's why jimmus, panneta, Hillary, et all are trashing him and his failed presidency
33, you'll admit Hunter may have been bullshitting us, right? You have no prob calling out repubs when they fck up too.
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The TX border patrol, under Rick Perry, denies it too. So does National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/08/congressman-at-least-10-isis-fighters-caught-trying-to-cross-into-us/?
At this point, coach, we usually say "oops, good point, looks like Hunter is lying" and we all have a beer. Defending it by saying Obama, border patrol, and everyone else is in on a grand lie makes this a huge conspiracy theory.
Do you believe Hunter, still? Or do you think he was just bullshittin' to scare people?
Joe would have to admit that he got tricked yet again by another Republican liar
Either that or he still hasn't figured it out yet
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Nope
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The bottom line is that we're now arguing about what Duncan lied about it possible.
yes, we all agree it's possible. And since nobody is defending Duncan, it sounds like we all agree he lied.
I'm not even sure what we're arguing about here, other than the subject change.
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I'm trying to find where it debunked like strawman said. You're a fool to believe that any part of what the Obama administration has to say or deny.
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Border patrol, dhs and others have all said it didn't happen.
We aren't going to resort to "you can't prove it didn't not happen...", are we?
Hunter made the claim. Burden is on him to prove it. Particularly because so many others say he is lying.
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I'm trying to find where it debunked like strawman said. You're a fool to believe that any part of what the Obama administration has to say or deny.
So is Iraq really in the Middle East?
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I'm trying to find where it debunked like strawman said. You're a fool to believe that any part of what the Obama administration has to say or deny.
When has any part of the Obama admin told the truth? Do you understand that he sympathizes with them? Seriously, what part of this don't you understand? Obama is literally an enemy of this country,
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Border patrol, dhs and others have all said it didn't happen.
We aren't going to resort to "you can't prove it didn't not happen...", are we?
Hunter made the claim. Burden is on him to prove it. Particularly because so many others say he is lying.
he could just provide his source
I'm sure that the border patrol, DHS, etc... would like to have a chat with the guy
Maybe this kind of bullshit somehow helps him with the "JoeLoco" types of voters. Other than that I can't think of any reason to perpetuate this kind of nonsense
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When has any part of the Obama admin told the truth? Do you understand that he sympathizes with them? Seriously, what part of this don't you understand? Obama is literally an enemy of this country,
This is incredible ;D
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When has any part of the Obama admin told the truth? Do you understand that he sympathizes with them? Seriously, what part of this don't you understand? Obama is literally an enemy of this country,
How many hours a day do you ingest right wing hate media?
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has Duncan Hunter provided evidence of the BUST of the YEAR? cause stopping ten ISIS bad guys at border, that's monumental, and that's a good reason for a land invasion of Syria.
I think I'm ready to support Mccain and Graham's desire for a full overthrow of Syria, since we've seen AT LEAST TEN ISIS FIGHTERS caught at the border. It's like catching the 911 bad guys before they did it - this is monumental.
Link to the list of ten guys they caught? What city/date? Is the border patrol report public record yet? I'm ready to endorse war, baby. So tired of Obama just making up war claims on a whim. About time we have a Duncan Hunter to reveal huge arrests like this. It's time for war, America. Sending ten ISIS fighters is just over the top, a declaration of war, for sure.
Link to info about the ten people arrested at border? Coach?
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Like i said before...an entire platoon of ISIS fighters could cross the border with tanks and raze a border town to the ground and behead the towns population in the name of Islam, and liberals would still say the border is a non-issue, islam is great, and that we are just hateful racists.
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Like i said before...an entire platoon of ISIS fighters could cross the border with tanks and raze a border town to the ground and behead the towns population in the name of Islam, and liberals would still say the border is a non-issue, islam is great, and that we are just hateful racists.
that's liberals, and they're irrelevant.
This thread is about ten ISIS trying to sneak into USA, and being CAUGHT. The number of stories that comes out of it are too many to count! A foreign invasion - obama's airstrikes failling. Border patrol success. Time to invade Syria. SO MUCH hinges on this major terror bust. I can't believe it's not the top story everywhere. Easily stopping numerous attacks.
it's not about 'liberal opinions' or what some douche named Toure will say on his show nobody watches. THis is about a congressman revealing a MAJOR TERROR BUST and nobody wants to talk about it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Like i said before...an entire platoon of ISIS fighters could cross the border with tanks and raze a border town to the ground and behead the towns population in the name of Islam, and liberals would still say the border is a non-issue, islam is great, and that we are just hateful racists.
As long as they only behead republicans its all good :)
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It would be pretty damned difficult to consistently separate Mexicans from Arabic-types by appearance, I know that. Unless the individual Mexicans being looked at had lots of Indian blood, it could be nearly impossible.
Tells you what a crock of shit this whole "WE'RE BEING TERRORIZED!!!" charade is, quite frankly: At the same time we innocent citizens are being shaken down for every bit of our communication data (along with our financial data, and everything else), our borders are AN OPEN DOOR.
Give me a fucking break. How could so many, be so collectively thoughtless? Time for this scam to end.
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..and Americans would personally run "terrorists" into the pavement with buckshot and worse in very short order, as we all know.
So don't tell me I need to be worried about anything except the fucking infiltrators in our government.
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Can't help but to see how this whole thing ties together sometimes. The estrogen fallout in our environment (however it happened), the war against individual aggression of any kind, etc., and the dependence on hysterical reactions to shape policy.
Sure looks like a scam meant to harness the common person to technology (instead of the other way around, as it should be). What else could explain it?
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so what are the details on these ten ISIS fighters? when were they busted? I can't believe obama is hiding this from us.
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I can definitely see where Coach is coming from, though: It should be expected, if Americans are to believe the narrative we're handed, that "ISIS fighters" would be practically waltzing over the border at will (as everyone else does, let's face it).
Seems consistent to me.
So I wonder how it's explained?
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They will push this lie as far as people will let them.
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So WHY aren't "ISIS fighters" taking advantage of our borders? Why hasn't Al Qaeda in the past?
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They will push this lie as far as people will let them.
Just follow the money, some .gov affiliate will soon have the answer to all our woe's with some new intrusive bullshit to take more freedoms ( and they will make billions from it)
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Here's the thing. If a perceived security threat leads to a surveillance state without warrants (as it has), then it leads to the perfect system for subverting our democracy. Right?
Aren't we already in this vulnerable position, right now? So how indeed do we know that the so-called ISIS is not under the supervision of interests whose goal it is to subvert our democracy and control our policy?
The most powerful tool in the world is the prize. So tell me how we know it hasn't been stolen.
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Here's the thing. If a perceived security threat leads to a surveillance state without warrants (as it has), then it leads to the perfect system for subverting our democracy. Right?
Aren't we already in this vulnerable position, right now? So how indeed do we know that the so-called ISIS is not under the supervision of interests whose goal it is to subvert our democracy and control our policy?
The most powerful tool in the world is the prize. So tell me how we know it hasn't been stolen.
Bump.
Facts show we've been led to believe the Arab-types are on a mission to act against us, that they want us to feel terrorized, and yet none so far in 13 years have taken it upon themselves to step over our notoriously disrespected border to make it personal.
This is true despite the fact that they happen to look very much like the people that live south of that border, and assimilation through fluent use of the language would be perhaps the only real barrier to doing that on a systematic basis, if that was the will.
So you have to ask yourself WHY - if the presumed troublemakers are acting through their own will - it hasn't happened. WHAT events would be set into motion, according to expectation, if that happened?
Don't forget, at the very same time, we are faced with information like this:
America at a "constitutional tipping point".
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=520272.0
...including this:
“What also alarms me, however, is that the two other branches appear not just simply passive, but inert in the face of this concentration of authority,”
I will ask again: WHO or WHAT is it we're trusting, when the evidence clearly shows us something else?
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And I do wonder about the increased elitist-anxiety regarding the "need" for "amnesty", when it comes to these things.
Is the realization of some fraudulent system for "amnesty", and perhaps a "North American Union" the only thing a planned border invasion is waiting upon?
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so did this really happen? Ten of them?
Or did (R) Rep. Hunter just make this shit up on the fly, to FOX news, to scare people?
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Kinda weird that at this point he's not backing down....
He did. He waited until friday night news dump to do so.
Imagine the outrage from getbiggers if obama had invented 10 ISIS fighters captured...
To sell the necessity of his bombings, to prove his border policy was working, to bring people together in fear behind him...
We'd be calling for his impeachment, and rightly so. But Rep Hunter makes up the shit on the fly, and getbiggers are silent. Stay consistent. ANY politician that makes up imaginary bad guys caught, to scare us, is a dick, plain and simple. Regardless of the party.
I do think 333386 will call Hunter a bum for this move. I think others will resort to "maybe he made it up, but it COULD happen" in some sort of illogical defense.
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He did. He waited until friday night news dump to do so.
Imagine the outrage from getbiggers if obama had invented 10 ISIS fighters captured...
To sell the necessity of his bombings, to prove his border policy was working, to bring people together in fear behind him...
We'd be calling for his impeachment, and rightly so. But Rep Hunter makes up the shit on the fly, and getbiggers are silent. Stay consistent. ANY politician that makes up imaginary bad guys caught, to scare us, is a dick, plain and simple. Regardless of the party.
I do think 333386 will call Hunter a bum for this move. I think others will resort to "maybe he made it up, but it COULD happen" in some sort of illogical defense.
You fell for it - I didn't right?
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You fell for it - I didn't right?
LOL!
Perhaps my [/sarcasm] tag wasn't out, when I playfully kept saying "but but as Hunter has PROVEN, the Obama border policy is WORKING, we CAUGHT TEN OF THEM" followed by repeated requests for links to their names? I called it the biggest terror bust of the decade, ,etc.
Sorry, I thought I was super clear. I thought dude was exaggerating the shit out of things, to scare viewers, to rile up the FOX audience. I predicted he'd wait til friday night news dump to walk back his comments. LOL @ you thinking I bought into his claims. Re-read page 1 of this thread. I'm all over hunter and his kneepadders with a bullshit claim on the terror bust of the decade lol.
Congressman whose district is San Diego has secret intel from the Texas border patrol that hasn't made its way to DHS yet. Amazing.
It's the top news story all over right now, on both the conservative and liberal news sites. Either ISIS was stopped at the border, and it's some INCREDIBLE news that we stopped a terror attack, and Hunter leaked this classified info for whatever reason... OR Rep Hunter is a fearmonger, cawksucking liar, trying to scare people to gain a political edge.
Personally, I believe he just made it up on the spot to scare people.
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If we did and GAYbama could take even an ounce of credit to divert from his failed presidency - he would have - that's how I knew it was nonsense.
Its simple to know the truth now on things and how this govt operates.
If its good for Obama - its bad for America
If its bad for America - its good for Obama
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If we did and GAYbama could take even an ounce of credit to divert from his failed presidency - he would have - that's how I knew it was nonsense.
Its simple to know the truth now on things and how this govt operates.
If its good for Obama - its bad for America
If its bad for America - its good for Obama
Yes, and IF obama had made a bullshit claim like "We just caught ten of the most dangerous people on earth", and LIED, we'd be calling for impeachment.
I guess I don't understand why a high ranking congressman like Hunter can do it, and everyone's like *shrug*.
If you look at the 7th chapter of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (something repubs correctly cite obama for using all of the time), you can see that HUnter was employing both the threats & tactics that shitbag liberals use. Thanks, obama.... for inspiring Hunter for sinking to this despicable level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
I just hate fearmongering. It was clear from minute one, that Hunter was making this shit up on the fly, TO SCARE PEOPLE.
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Yes, because everything that has been said and predicted has been bullshit up until that point..right? So just to be clear on your end, you DON'T think it's possible for ISIS to be crossing the boarders. Am I understanding you correctly? Only because you didn't answer the first time.
North Korea nukes the US, wait they could, you won't admit that they could.
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When has any part of the Obama admin told the truth? Do you understand that he sympathizes with them? Seriously, what part of this don't you understand? Obama is literally an enemy of this country,
LOL,
bombing them is friendly, got ya.
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When has any part of the Obama admin told the truth? Do you understand that he sympathizes with them? Seriously, what part of this don't you understand? Obama is literally an enemy of this country,
You're 100% correct. On this issue, Obama/DHS is credible, and Hunter admits he is not.
I hate moments like this, when Repubs get caught up in negative emotion and fearmongering and think they can tell obvious lies to millions of Americans - making them very scared.
imagine living in TX, believing there are ISIS beer runs going on in your backyard? Could certainly terrorize these americans... which is the goal of ISIS, actually. I don't know if Hunter knows/cares he's terrorizing americans worse than ISIS by using his credibility to claim they're in our backyards... or taking credit for stopping them. :(
Rep. Hunter himself has now come fwd and admitted it wasn't actually ISIS fighters sneaking across the border.
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Looks like a few of Obama's boys have been caught...
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resurrecting a thread from Oct? lol