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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Morsprincipium on March 10, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
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Here is an article I just wrote:
5:30AM
I wake up, weigh myself. I am approximately 5'6 at 259lbs. Inject all my anabolics, 10IU of HGH, 10IU of humalog, and 150mcg of GHRP-6, have a dozen eggs along with 10 egg whites mixed in with a few cups of oatmeal and get off to the gym. I do cardio for 20-30 mins then start work. I work as a personal trainer and a fitness manager at a gym, and also do a host of other jobs to fit my addiction. We'll get onto that later though. I work from 7AM to 7-10PM depending on how many clients I have that day or if I've gotten all my work done. Yes, you heard right. A professional bodybuilder is working anywhere from 12-15 hour days just to make enough to pay for his drug bill along with doing other jobs. Throughout the day I will inject myself 12-15 times a day (IM, sub-Q, and the occasional IV) and eat about 6 meals consisting of about 5-6000 calories total. I eat mostly tilapia for protein, rice, and other cheap sources of calories/protein. Can't afford to go out and eat on the regular. During each of these meals I will inject 10IU's of humalog before. I can't remember the last time I've eaten a meal without insulin in my system. I am also injecting 25IU's a day of omnitrope (20 on off days).
This is my current stack of anabolics:
Testosterone enthanate/cypionate blend/wk 900mg/wk
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 750mg/wk
Trenbolone enthanate 1400mg/wk
Boldenone undecylenate 1200mg/wk
Masteron enthanate 1200mg/wk
Primobolan 900mg/wk
GHRP-6 450mcg ED
Anadrol 200mg ED
Cytomel 50mcg ED
This is about 6g of anabolics, which believe it or not is less than what I was using before I got a hold of a good HGH. HGH makes all the difference in modern day bodybuilding. Hyperplastia from HGH causes the muscles to look like they're popping of the skin, giving them a "3D" look. Genetics play a role in how you will look structure wise, and with your muscle bellies and such. But in order to get the paper thin skin and freaky muscularity it is all about using large, large doses of HGH, anabolics, and insulin. The purity of your HGH matters, which can get into a costly battle of trial and error. Find a guy source, get fucked over, go try out the new one. I've spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on HGH over the years, and I'd be willing to bet 1/3 of it was bunk. I now use pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. This has been a blessing on me, considering that I can get a large amount of this for a good price. I'd attribute all of my "success" in bodybuilding to having a connection to get this HGH.
And even with this, I still spend a great deal of my money on HGH. I can spend anywhere from 35-40k a year on HGH. How do am I able to afford this while paying for the cost of living? Many bodybuilders turn to gay for pay to help aleviate their drug bill, I have never and will never do this. Many others also turn to dealing, most bodybuilders do this. They get their shipment of growth hormone, cut it in half and use half of it, upmark the price twice as much as they paid, and sell it off to junkies at the gym. Who would argue with a professional bodybuilder selling you growth hormone that said it made him look the way he does? I've sold many, many drugs. It's damn near the only way to make enough money to keep your bodybuilding "dream" going. Some are lucky, get sponsored by sources or have great comfy jobs and make a comfortable living. I live very frugally, budget every dime and penny. There was a point in my life where I was close to being a full time dealer, selling cocaine, heroin, and painkillers. Out of my 20 or so professional bodybuilding aquantainces I have sold painkillers to 90% of them. Nubain is a popular one. Even some of them buy cocaine and other narcotics. This is what truly kills bodybuilders, not growth hormone or steroids.
It's getting to the point where I almost don't even have "blast or cruise" periods anymore, I just get my stuff and use it. To get big, professional bodybuilder size, don't go crazy from day 1...you should always slowly work your way up. But eventually, if you want to get to an elite level of bodybuilding prepare to be using a boatload of gear. (As in as much as you can afford, and as much as you can tolerate). All for a plastic trophy.
Let's go into a few basic things besides the drugs:
1. Training
2. Diet
Training:
Training on gear consists of two things, work the target muscle and don't tear anything. That's it, as simple as that. You should train with intensity, but the exercise does not matter (as long as it is working the target muscle and not making you prone to injury). I hate to say it but training is almost irrelevant, you could do bodyweight exercises while jerking off and still grow. We all want to think of huge bodybuilders being "hardcore" when they work out, but in reality it just causes injuries and is not a productive way to train.
Diet:
This is more important in my opinion, but eating a good amount of protein and calories is all you need to worry about. Compounds such as trenbolone decrease protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin. Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus. Testosterone does the opposite. And that's just two compounds. You can eat essentially whatever you want on tren, growth hormone, etc. and only grow bigger and leaner. Get enough calories, and get enough protein is all you need to worry about.
This is the truth of the sport of bodybuilding, there are no rainbows and sunshine at the end of this story. Only cold hard reality.
I would like GH15 back on getbig.com please
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Do you pin all muscle groups or stick to glutes for aas and Delts for slin/gh as gh15 reccommends
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Drugs are a huge part of bodybuilding,but injecting yourself 105 times a week is not the usual protocol for most people on this board, or most bodybuilders in general.
No offense bro,but that`s crazy in my eyes,but to each his own,you have a great physique.
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I don't care where he is, as long as he's bringing the hammer down on the liar filts.
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hi gh15
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Do you pin all muscle groups or stick to glutes for aas and Delts for slin/gh as gh15 reccommends
I have to rotate through every muscle group to make sure I don't get scar tissue buildup.
Drugs are a huge part of bodybuilding,but injecting yourself 105 times a week is not the usual protocol for most people on this board, or bodybuilders in general.
No offense bro,but that`s crazy in my eyes,but to each his own,you have a great physique.
Not something I enjoy I'll be honest. I don't usually ask other bodybuilders how often they inject but I'm sure it's still alot.
Thanks wes
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No problem bro,and I wasn`t trying to be a prick either,I just never met anyone who injected gear 105 times a week,and I know lots of gear users including top amateurs.
I don`t like pinning myself 2-3 times a week! :D
Anyway,like I said,you look great,but I highly doubt that most would be willing to go to that extreme unless the Mr. Olympia title was in their future and guaranteed.
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Here is an article I just wrote:
5:30AM
I wake up, weigh myself. I am approximately 5'6 at 259lbs. Inject all my anabolics, 10IU of HGH, 10IU of humalog, and 150mcg of GHRP-6, have a dozen eggs along with 10 egg whites mixed in with a few cups of oatmeal and get off to the gym. I do cardio for 20-30 mins then start work. I work as a personal trainer and a fitness manager at a gym, and also do a host of other jobs to fit my addiction. We'll get onto that later though. I work from 7AM to 7-10PM depending on how many clients I have that day or if I've gotten all my work done. Yes, you heard right. A professional bodybuilder is working anywhere from 12-15 hour days just to make enough to pay for his drug bill along with doing other jobs. Throughout the day I will inject myself 12-15 times a day (IM, sub-Q, and the occasional IV) and eat about 6 meals consisting of about 5-6000 calories total. I eat mostly tilapia for protein, rice, and other cheap sources of calories/protein. Can't afford to go out and eat on the regular. During each of these meals I will inject 10IU's of humalog before. I can't remember the last time I've eaten a meal without insulin in my system. I am also injecting 25IU's a day of omnitrope (20 on off days).
This is my current stack of anabolics:
Testosterone enthanate/cypionate blend/wk 900mg/wk
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 750mg/wk
Trenbolone enthanate 1400mg/wk
Boldenone undecylenate 1200mg/wk
Masteron enthanate 1200mg/wk
Primobolan 900mg/wk
GHRP-6 450mcg ED
Anadrol 200mg ED
Cytomel 50mcg ED
This is about 6g of anabolics, which believe it or not is less than what I was using before I got a hold of a good HGH. HGH makes all the difference in modern day bodybuilding. Hyperplastia from HGH causes the muscles to look like they're popping of the skin, giving them a "3D" look. Genetics play a role in how you will look structure wise, and with your muscle bellies and such. But in order to get the paper thin skin and freaky muscularity it is all about using large, large doses of HGH, anabolics, and insulin. The purity of your HGH matters, which can get into a costly battle of trial and error. Find a guy source, get fucked over, go try out the new one. I've spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on HGH over the years, and I'd be willing to bet 1/3 of it was bunk. I now use pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. This has been a blessing on me, considering that I can get a large amount of this for a good price. I'd attribute all of my "success" in bodybuilding to having a connection to get this HGH.
And even with this, I still spend a great deal of my money on HGH. I can spend anywhere from 35-40k a year on HGH. How do am I able to afford this while paying for the cost of living? Many bodybuilders turn to gay for pay to help aleviate their drug bill, I have never and will never do this. Many others also turn to dealing, most bodybuilders do this. They get their shipment of growth hormone, cut it in half and use half of it, upmark the price twice as much as they paid, and sell it off to junkies at the gym. Who would argue with a professional bodybuilder selling you growth hormone that said it made him look the way he does? I've sold many, many drugs. It's damn near the only way to make enough money to keep your bodybuilding "dream" going. Some are lucky, get sponsored by sources or have great comfy jobs and make a comfortable living. I live very frugally, budget every dime and penny. There was a point in my life where I was close to being a full time dealer, selling cocaine, heroin, and painkillers. Out of my 20 or so professional bodybuilding aquantainces I have sold painkillers to 90% of them. Nubain is a popular one. Even some of them buy cocaine and other narcotics. This is what truly kills bodybuilders, not growth hormone or steroids.
It's getting to the point where I almost don't even have "blast or cruise" periods anymore, I just get my stuff and use it. To get big, professional bodybuilder size, don't go crazy from day 1...you should always slowly work your way up. But eventually, if you want to get to an elite level of bodybuilding prepare to be using a boatload of gear. (As in as much as you can afford, and as much as you can tolerate). All for a plastic trophy.
Let's go into a few basic things besides the drugs:
1. Training
2. Diet
Training:
Training on gear consists of two things, work the target muscle and don't tear anything. That's it, as simple as that. You should train with intensity, but the exercise does not matter (as long as it is working the target muscle and not making you prone to injury). I hate to say it but training is almost irrelevant, you could do bodyweight exercises while jerking off and still grow. We all want to think of huge bodybuilders being "hardcore" when they work out, but in reality it just causes injuries and is not a productive way to train.
Diet:
This is more important in my opinion, but eating a good amount of protein and calories is all you need to worry about. Compounds such as trenbolone decrease protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin. Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus. Testosterone does the opposite. And that's just two compounds. You can eat essentially whatever you want on tren, growth hormone, etc. and only grow bigger and leaner. Get enough calories, and get enough protein is all you need to worry about.
This is the truth of the sport of bodybuilding, there are no rainbows and sunshine at the end of this story. Only cold hard reality.
I would like GH15 back on getbig.com please
Brutally honest.. It needs more posts like this to show what it really takes to be a certain size and look a certain way. What would happen to you if you halfed the dose do you think? That money could be well spent else where enjoying your life a little more
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I do appreciate his honestly.....forgot to add that,but it`s still fucking INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Brutally honest.. It needs more posts like this to show what it really takes to be a certain size and look a certain way. What would happen to you if you halfed the dose do you think? That money could be well spent else where enjoying your life a little more
I would probably shrink to 200lbs, get depressed. Dysmorphia has been my biggest problem since I was 15-16. I wouldn't enjoy life at all being small. I just hope I find peace in my mind before I retire from the stage.
I do appreciate his honestly.....forgot to add that,but it`s still fucking INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bah, I'm just an insane fucker ;D
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excellent honest post
how much do you earn from our work per month and also how much money goes into your addiction (drugs, food, etc.. ) ?
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5'6 259# fuch yeah Branch is posting his cycle here. Whow to win the Arnold classic u have to take alot of shit.
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Bah, I'm just an insane fucker ;D
Yes you are my friend! :D
I`m seriously amazed,but I`m sure that just because I never heard of so many injects per week,doesn`t mean shit.
Keep pumping bro! ;)
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Are you for real, man? 6g's + HGH + slin.
...I'm fairly new to getbig and the more time I spend on here the more shocked I am by some cycles I see. You look great but is it worth it, spending that much on GH too?
I'm off to the pub to lose gains, g'luck lads
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Are you for real, man? 6g's + HGH + slin.
...I'm fairly new to getbig and the more time I spend on here the more shocked I am by some cycles I see. You look great but is it worth it, spending that much on GH too?
I'm off to the pub to lose gains, g'luck lads
Have a few for me Dave! :D
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bro last time i saw a picture of you you looked like a mid level amatuer.. that cycle is fucking ridiculous.. i hope your seeing some dramatic changes on a daily basis..
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Here is an article I just wrote:
5:30AM
I wake up, weigh myself. I am approximately 5'6 at 259lbs. Inject all my anabolics, 10IU of HGH, 10IU of humalog, and 150mcg of GHRP-6, have a dozen eggs along with 10 egg whites mixed in with a few cups of oatmeal and get off to the gym. I do cardio for 20-30 mins then start work. I work as a personal trainer and a fitness manager at a gym, and also do a host of other jobs to fit my addiction. We'll get onto that later though. I work from 7AM to 7-10PM depending on how many clients I have that day or if I've gotten all my work done. Yes, you heard right. A professional bodybuilder is working anywhere from 12-15 hour days just to make enough to pay for his drug bill along with doing other jobs. Throughout the day I will inject myself 12-15 times a day (IM, sub-Q, and the occasional IV) and eat about 6 meals consisting of about 5-6000 calories total. I eat mostly tilapia for protein, rice, and other cheap sources of calories/protein. Can't afford to go out and eat on the regular. During each of these meals I will inject 10IU's of humalog before. I can't remember the last time I've eaten a meal without insulin in my system. I am also injecting 25IU's a day of omnitrope (20 on off days).
This is my current stack of anabolics:
Testosterone enthanate/cypionate blend/wk 900mg/wk
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 750mg/wk
Trenbolone enthanate 1400mg/wk
Boldenone undecylenate 1200mg/wk
Masteron enthanate 1200mg/wk
Primobolan 900mg/wk
GHRP-6 450mcg ED
Anadrol 200mg ED
Cytomel 50mcg ED
This is about 6g of anabolics, which believe it or not is less than what I was using before I got a hold of a good HGH. HGH makes all the difference in modern day bodybuilding. Hyperplastia from HGH causes the muscles to look like they're popping of the skin, giving them a "3D" look. Genetics play a role in how you will look structure wise, and with your muscle bellies and such. But in order to get the paper thin skin and freaky muscularity it is all about using large, large doses of HGH, anabolics, and insulin. The purity of your HGH matters, which can get into a costly battle of trial and error. Find a guy source, get fucked over, go try out the new one. I've spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on HGH over the years, and I'd be willing to bet 1/3 of it was bunk. I now use pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. This has been a blessing on me, considering that I can get a large amount of this for a good price. I'd attribute all of my "success" in bodybuilding to having a connection to get this HGH.
And even with this, I still spend a great deal of my money on HGH. I can spend anywhere from 35-40k a year on HGH. How do am I able to afford this while paying for the cost of living? Many bodybuilders turn to gay for pay to help aleviate their drug bill, I have never and will never do this. Many others also turn to dealing, most bodybuilders do this. They get their shipment of growth hormone, cut it in half and use half of it, upmark the price twice as much as they paid, and sell it off to junkies at the gym. Who would argue with a professional bodybuilder selling you growth hormone that said it made him look the way he does? I've sold many, many drugs. It's damn near the only way to make enough money to keep your bodybuilding "dream" going. Some are lucky, get sponsored by sources or have great comfy jobs and make a comfortable living. I live very frugally, budget every dime and penny. There was a point in my life where I was close to being a full time dealer, selling cocaine, heroin, and painkillers. Out of my 20 or so professional bodybuilding aquantainces I have sold painkillers to 90% of them. Nubain is a popular one. Even some of them buy cocaine and other narcotics. This is what truly kills bodybuilders, not growth hormone or steroids.
It's getting to the point where I almost don't even have "blast or cruise" periods anymore, I just get my stuff and use it. To get big, professional bodybuilder size, don't go crazy from day 1...you should always slowly work your way up. But eventually, if you want to get to an elite level of bodybuilding prepare to be using a boatload of gear. (As in as much as you can afford, and as much as you can tolerate). All for a plastic trophy.
Let's go into a few basic things besides the drugs:
1. Training
2. Diet
Training:
Training on gear consists of two things, work the target muscle and don't tear anything. That's it, as simple as that. You should train with intensity, but the exercise does not matter (as long as it is working the target muscle and not making you prone to injury). I hate to say it but training is almost irrelevant, you could do bodyweight exercises while jerking off and still grow. We all want to think of huge bodybuilders being "hardcore" when they work out, but in reality it just causes injuries and is not a productive way to train.
Diet:
This is more important in my opinion, but eating a good amount of protein and calories is all you need to worry about. Compounds such as trenbolone decrease protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin. Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus. Testosterone does the opposite. And that's just two compounds. You can eat essentially whatever you want on tren, growth hormone, etc. and only grow bigger and leaner. Get enough calories, and get enough protein is all you need to worry about.
This is the truth of the sport of bodybuilding, there are no rainbows and sunshine at the end of this story. Only cold hard reality.
I would like GH15 back on getbig.com please
holy fuck.
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Not sure whether to applaud your honesty or roll eyes at that cycle?
Jesus christ
Pics?
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are you the middle one in the picture
the middle one looks best by far
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Great post, I enjoyed reading it a lot. Thanks for sharing and it's always great to know what's behind this lifestyle.
p.s. as for the peace of mind: "the book of Mirdad" ;)
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Fucking spot on. People say this but never a big guy like you who will show his face and not just say bits and pieces.
1000 fellatios to you, brother. And 1000 more.
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Would be great to see pictures !
These are from 2006 - 6 years have passed
(http://i44.tinypic.com/6yfib8.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/r2q4iw.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2r70g92.jpg)
there are more in your first post on getbig
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Fucking spot on. People say this but never a big guy like you who will show his face and not just say bits and pieces.
1000 fellatios to you, brother. And 1000 more.
I had to re-read it before I went drinking. I have copied it to a text file to show some of my friends. Incredible article.
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bro last time i saw a picture of you you looked like a mid level amatuer.. that cycle is fucking ridiculous.. i hope your seeing some dramatic changes on a daily basis..
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=407625.msg5821956;topicseen#msg5821956
Fucking spot on. People say this but never a big guy like you who will show his face and not just say bits and pieces.
1000 fellatios to you, brother. And 1000 more.
Thanks brotha
And to Alpha: The first picture was from 2011, the others are from 2007-2008
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you look great but this is just crazy
how big can one get with just regular steroids
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(http://i42.tinypic.com/2rzue82.jpg)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2r70g92.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/r2q4iw.jpg)
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you look better than i remember but you still oughta be making some dramatic day to day changes on that cycle
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It's a solid build but it's just that you expect a fucking mutant to be running that ammount of gear.
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I would probably shrink to 200lbs, get depressed. Dysmorphia has been my biggest problem since I was 15-16. I wouldn't enjoy life at all being small. I just hope I find peace in my mind before I retire from the stage.
Bah, I'm just an insane fucker ;D
You are 5'6...even if you were 175 cut, you'd still be huge...5'6 and over 250 you'd look like the Michelin Man...
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What would a normal days diet (non comp) look like? (What foods you eat and how often)
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Damn bro good post. Honest and very interesting.
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Morsprincipium, what brutal honesty in the post. That was a good post, it's gonna' be up there with the best of them. The only person that can relate to those kinds of dosages is gh15. I missed him from day 1 he stopped posting. He said he'll stop and he did.
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Couple questions for you Morspin,
1. how do you take insulin with every meal pre contest, doesn't that prevent you from getting lean?
2. Do you run tren year round in the offsaeson?
3. What is your health like and how do you function in day to day life literally being a walking pharmacy? Do you ever get depressed at times when you people living a normal life and knowing your trapped forever in this lifestyle? Any regrets? I'm being serious here. I had a bad dream a few weeks ago, very strange....I just cant get it out of my head. it was 2017 I was around 24 years old 250 pounds and shredded, living the dream. I still owned a bicycle and had no car, lived by myself, my hair was nearly gone and I was impotent, the only women I got were whores but I was huge and lean. I was in the gym on the lat pulldown machine, and I see a 175 pound skinny fat guy walk by with three kids and my ex gf. I stop and she reckgonizes me,before she walks over to say hi her husband kisses her on the lips. Hurt more than the 20g I used for my last cycle when I was out of my regular 25g ones.
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Damn bro good post. Honest and very interesting.
and depressing. Wonder how many dreams are gonna be crushed with that post in the next 24 hours
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Couple questions for you Morspin,
1. how do you take insulin with every meal pre contest, doesn't that prevent you from getting lean?
2. Do you run tren year round in the offsaeson?
3. What is your health like and how do you function in day to day life literally being a walking pharmacy? Do you ever get depressed at times when you people living a normal life and knowing your trapped forever in this lifestyle? Any regrets? I'm being serious here. I had a bad dream a few weeks ago, very strange....I just cant get it out of my head. it was 2017 I was around 24 years old 250 pounds and shredded, living the dream. I still owned a bicycle and had no car, lived by myself, my hair was nearly gone and I was impotent, the only women I got were whores but I was huge and lean. I was in the gym on the lat pulldown machine, and I see a 175 pound skinny fat guy walk by with three kids and my ex gf. I stop and she reckgonizes me,before she walks over to say hi her husband kisses her on the lips. Hurt more than the 20g I used for my last cycle when I was out of my regular 25g ones.
Haha brutal dream did you start crying when you woke up haha ;D
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Some advice. If you are taking all of that shit and look the way you do, it's time to give up the dream. It's evident you don't have the drive to be successful by the way you dismissed the importance of training. I know for a fact guys like Jay, Dorian and Ronnie trained like fucking caged animals. That is what separates the all drugs bodybuilders from true champions.
Hang up the thong and maybe move to stripping, it will be more dignifying for you.
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It's a solid build but it's just that you expect a fucking mutant to be running that ammount of gear.
260 fucken pounds at 5'6 is a legit mutant dude. He's not black and takes shitload of insulin, of course he's not gonna look like Serge Nubret.
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What would a normal days diet (non comp) look like? (What foods you eat and how often)
I eat every few hours, GHRP, HGH, test, all make you hungry as hell.
Most meals consist of 2lbs of tilapia, and a cup or two of white rice. Sometimes steak.
I would eat better food if I had the money to go out all the time. Once or twice a week I'll go out and grab some fast food or a pizza.
Couple questions for you Morspin,
1. how do you take insulin with every meal pre contest, doesn't that prevent you from getting lean?
2. Do you run tren year round in the offsaeson?
3. What is your health like and how do you function in day to day life literally being a walking pharmacy? Do you ever get depressed at times when you people living a normal life and knowing your trapped forever in this lifestyle? Any regrets? I'm being serious here. I had a bad dream a few weeks ago, very strange....I just cant get it out of my head. it was 2017 I was around 24 years old 250 pounds and shredded, living the dream. I still owned a bicycle and had no car, lived by myself, the only women I got were whores but I was huge and lean. I was in the gym on the lat pulldown machine, and I see a 175 pound skinny fat guy walk by with three kids and my ex gf. I stop and she reckgonizes me,before she walks over to say hi her husband kisses her on the lips. Hurt more than the 20g I used for my last cycle when I was out of my regular 25g ones.
1. No, it helps me fill out if anything. I lower the dose of insulin as the contest comes closer though. Duretics take care of the water for the most part in the later periods.
2. No, I "cruise" every 9-10 months for a little bit to get my bloodwork out of high levels (which alot of them come back as this)
3.I actually have no regrets, I love being big. Always have. Always live life without regrets my man. Live the life that you want to live, don't let anybody tell you otherwise. Women aren't shit in the long run, that ex that you feel heart-wrenching pain for when you're in your teens won't be there when you're older. Focus on yourself, your goals. Whatever your dreams or aspirations are. If you think giving up what you have to to be a professional bodybuilder isn't worth it, then don't do it. Nobody is going to condemn you for it. In our minds especially as bodybuilders we want people to know that we are one. We build up this image with our social groups that everyone knows us for: That big guy, the strong guy, the guy that looks good. We think that if we ever stop lifting (or god forbid something bad happens and we lose 50lbs) we'll lose this image and people will think less of us. If you miss a meal in front of people, they'll think you aren't working as hard as you always talked about. Who gives a fuck, live your life the way you want to.
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3.I actually have no regrets, I love being big. Always have. Always live life without regrets my man. Live the life that you want to live, don't let anybody tell you otherwise. Women aren't shit in the long run, that ex that you feel heart-wrenching pain for when you're in your teens won't be there when you're older. Focus on yourself, your goals. Whatever your dreams or aspirations are. If you think giving up what you have to to be a professional bodybuilder isn't worth it, then don't do it. Nobody is going to condemn you for it. In our minds especially as bodybuilders we want people to know that we are one. We build up this image with our social groups that everyone knows us for: That big guy, the strong guy, the guy that looks good. We think that if we ever stop lifting (or god forbid something bad happens and we lose 50lbs) we'll lose this image and people will think less of us. If you miss a meal in front of people, they'll think you aren't working as hard as you always talked about. Who gives a fuck, live your life the way you want to.
Good post............very true.
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Some advice. If you are taking all of that shit and look the way you do, it's time to give up the dream. It's evident you don't have the drive to be successful by the way you dismissed the importance of training. I know for a fact guys like Jay, Dorian and Ronnie trained like fucking caged animals. That is what separates the all drugs bodybuilders from true champions.
Hang up the thong and maybe move to stripping, it will be more dignifying for you.
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So you've trained with them personally for at least a year to know how they truly train, and not just watched videos where they bump up the weight for the camera?
I can bench 455 for reps, doesn't mean I should do it all the time. I can also squat in the 600s close to 700s. We all work hard, but there's a difference between working hard and just plain stupidity. I've torn a hamstring tendon and partially torn a pec from being "hardcore" and training like a "caged animal." It's not productive.
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So you've trained with them personally for at least a year to know how they truly train, and not just watched videos where they bump up the weight for the camera?
I can bench 455 for reps, doesn't mean I should do it all the time. I can also squat in the 600s close to 700s. We all work hard, but there's a difference between working hard and just plain stupidity. I've torn a hamstring tendon and partially torn a pec from being "hardcore" and training like a "caged animal." It's not productive.
Benching 455 once is not it, and not just the videos. I have worked out with a lot of top IFBB guys at World's Gym for years. There were the lazy All Drugs guys that just floted around, but all they did were the circuit $10k shows. Then the top tier guys who lifted like animals. Spending 1 hour of shoulder excercises that would have made anyone's joints fall off.
But they lifted strong and smart. They lifted to their need and not their egos. The ego lifters get hurt, strain their joints and get messed up. The smart lifters lift strong, intense but within their means.
The thought that "I am on drugs so I can lift less" mentality is for losers. The opposite should be true. I am on drugs and now I am going to work out strong and smart.
You need to control the strength gains. The people that get hurt are 225 benchers that jump on gear and want to try 405 in 3 months because they can, but their ligaments and joints aren't ready yet for that weight even if their muscles are.
Anyways moreshecums. I was fucking with you about the dream. But what is your goal. Do you honestly think you will be Mr. Olympia one day or do you not care?
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Benching 455 once is not it, and not just the videos. I have worked out with a lot of top IFBB guys at World's Gym for years. There were the lazy All Drugs guys that just floted around, but all they did were the circuit $10k shows. Then the top tier guys who lifted like animals. Spending 1 hour of shoulder excercises that would have made anyone's joints fall off.
But they lifted strong and smart. They lifted to their need and not their egos. The ego lifters get hurt, strain their joints and get messed up. The smart lifters lift strong, intense but within their means.
The thought that "I am on drugs so I can lift less" mentality is for losers. The opposite should be true. I am on drugs and now I am going to work out strong and smart.
You need to control the strength gains. The people that get hurt are 225 benchers that jump on gear and want to try 405 in 3 months because they can, but their ligaments and joints aren't ready yet for that weight even if their muscles are.
Anyways moreshecums. I was fucking with you about the dream. But what is your goal. Do you honestly think you will be Mr. Olympia one day or do you not care?
Sorry about the hostility, thought you were another smart ass teenager who was posting just to post. You actually seem educated on the subject.
To be Frankly honest, I don't give a shit about going onstage posing in a thong. The only reason I do it is because I am able to make extra money for the publicity. I never wanted to step on stage as a kid, just to be big.
Maybe I like the attention ??? ??? I honestly don't know.
But to answer your question, no I don't think I'll ever be MR O. I'm not even in the IFBB, I'm in the NABBA
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What can I say... I like this guy,
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I love bodybuilding but not 6 gram a week love: Insane quantities. And injecting 12-15 times a day? You are a brave man sir!
If you are not into competing try to reach a balance between being huge and freaky and enjoying different things in life. Don't waste your life on the solely porpouse of looking good. That kind of bodybuilding is a jail sentence and it should be the opposite.
And i want gh15 back. I don't agree with him on many thing but i am against this kind of discrimination, everyone has the right of being part of this comunity.
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Why not just lower the dose if you just want to be big and don't care about competing?
Sorry but you are a legit retard if you think anyone gives a shit whether you weigh 200lb or 250lb.
Apart from that kudos for the honesty.
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260 fucken pounds at 5'6 is a legit mutant dude. He's not black and takes shitload of insulin, of course he's not gonna look like Serge Nubret.
Try walking up 3 flights of stairs at that height and weight (let alone 1 flight of stairs).
What I meant was this, Flex at 5'10 was competing in the 190s on the NPC circuit. Won his Pro card at 215, won the 93 Arnold at 216, and came in 2nd at the Mr. O at 218. Yes, yes he had great genetics. But more is not always better, because when he went for more he looked like shit.
Most of these guys today look like shit but weight a ton,
I'm willing to bet if this dude was 175-180 cut, he'd feel better and look better, and his organs would thank him, and so would his wallet....because no matter how you cut it, your body (heart, kidneys, lungs, etc) doesn't know 260 pounds of far vs 260 pounds of muscle.
Just my 2 cents.
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Try walking up 3 flights of stairs at that height and weight (let alone 1 flight of stairs).
What I meant was this, Flex at 5'10 was competing in the 190s on the NPC circuit. Won his Pro card at 215, won the 93 Arnold at 216, and came in 2nd at the Mr. O at 218. Yes, yes he had great genetics. But more is not always better, because when he went for more he looked like shit.
Most of these guys today look like shit but weight a ton,
I'm willing to bet if this dude was 175-180 cut, he'd feel better and look better, and his organs would thank him, and so would his wallet....because no matter how you cut it, your body (heart, kidneys, lungs, etc) doesn't know 260 pounds of far vs 260 pounds of muscle.
Just my 2 cents.
Genetics v drug abuse.
185lb here i think.
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Flex looks great there.
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I can't even imagine what you would be able to do with in life if you dedicated all that time and effort to something a little more worthwhile. I admire the amount of sacrifice you put into this but even you realize that its all for a plastic trophy and you seem to be ok with that. I guess as long as you're happy doing what you do is all that really matters.
I have to ask though....are you happy doing all this or do you feel its just become an addiction/obsession and would you stop if you could?
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I can't even imagine what you would be able to do with in life if you dedicated all that time and effort to something a little more worthwhile. I admire the amount of sacrifice you put into this but even you realize that its all for a plastic trophy and you seem to be ok with that. I guess as long as you're happy doing what you do is all that really matters.
I have to ask though....are you happy doing all this or do you feel its just become an addiction/obsession and would you stop if you could?
i think most bbers- and i mean guys who are serious about training are obsessive to some degree, very unhealthily so, and addicted to the 'feeling' they have when on a good run. that invincible feeling. i know i am, thats why i dont cycle anymore despite not really wanting to be bigger- i just like this feeling.
and i also think we suffer from some severe body dysmorphia and other related disorders. this is a very unhealthy life style mentally. i can pretty much promise you if you were 'normal' before you started to train, you have a disorder of some nature now and not a mild one. take me for example- i am a binge eater now. never was before but i am now. when i eat i eat to the point of uncomfortable gluttony. and that is not right, and i cant stop- well i can but i dont cause i like eating so much. i know im full but i'll keep eating anyway, cause i think in part because i limit myself to the foods i like and also in part cause i figure, what the fuck, i just ate x number caloires over what i was supposed to i might as well enjoy it now.
bbing is a very mentally unhealthy pastime for sure, and i think if you disagree, you really need to sit down and be honest with yourself.
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great thread
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So you've trained with them personally for at least a year to know how they truly train, and not just watched videos where they bump up the weight for the camera?
I can bench 455 for reps, doesn't mean I should do it all the time. I can also squat in the 600s close to 700s. We all work hard, but there's a difference between working hard and just plain stupidity. I've torn a hamstring tendon and partially torn a pec from being "hardcore" and training like a "caged animal." It's not productive.
IMHO, you looked better in your earlier pics....but I am one of those guys who are like Wes, we live in the past. The size back then was so much less 'freaky'. More power to you, because you do what you want. No flame whatsoever.
Also, I am right there with you when it comes to the training. I always trained balls out. I was never one of those '2hrs in the gym' guys. After about 75 mins, I get damn bored and say 'enough is enough'. What did it get me? Torn pec, torn hamstring, torn tricep tendon, and now I am paying the price with a newly aquired supraspinatus tendon tear, chondromacia patella, multiple tendons that have tendonosis.....
So, right now, I am running my dr. prescribed 200mg/wk.....staying lean...lifting within my pain tolerance...and saying FUCK YOU to that part of the brain that says "You should squatting 400 this week, enough with the higher rep bullshit"
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i think most bbers- and i mean guys who are serious about training are obsessive to some degree, very unhealthily so, and addicted to the 'feeling' they have when on a good run. that invincible feeling. i know i am, thats why i dont cycle anymore despite not really wanting to be bigger- i just like this feeling.
and i also think we suffer from some severe body dysmorphia and other related disorders. this is a very unhealthy life style mentally. i can pretty much promise you if you were 'normal' before you started to train, you have a disorder of some nature now and not a mild one. take me for example- i am a binge eater now. never was before but i am now. when i eat i eat to the point of uncomfortable gluttony. and that is not right, and i cant stop- well i can but i dont cause i like eating so much. i know im full but i'll keep eating anyway, cause i think in part because i limit myself to the foods i like and also in part cause i figure, what the fuck, i just ate x number caloires over what i was supposed to i might as well enjoy it now.
bbing is a very mentally unhealthy pastime for sure, and i think if you disagree, you really need to sit down and be honest with yourself.
It just consumes every aspect of your life doesn't it. What you said about developing a disorder because of bbing made me realize that I was never a midnight snacker before I started getting serious about this. In the hopes of gaining weight years ago I would purposely eat at night when I woke up to go to the bathroom and now automatically my body wakes up every 3 hours telling me to go eat something. Its so annoying cause I haven't been able to go a whole night without waking up to eat at least twice in years now.
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hi gh15
;D ;D
"I saw the actual Defense Ministry defense plans for nuclear attack." -gh15
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;D ;D
"I saw the actual Defense Ministry defense plans for nuclear attack." -gh15
Haha Tommy kills me with this post in every Gh15 related thread.
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For the record Flex used as much Morsprincipum, probably a little bit more mg wise, he was by far the biggest user out of the guys at Venice in the late 90s, training wise its also true what he says, most guys train like pussies, or just joke around, then a guy like Dillet would be twice his bodyweight only using half.
Hate admiting that the very top guys do take a lot of gear,dosage slike that arent needed until you have been going for over ten years in my opinion, you can take it earlier but you just end up like a water buffalo as theres no muscle maturity. GH15 real issues is telling guys with very little experiance to go hard early, that will just burn you out, consistency is the key, over many years and keep gradually increasing the mgs and IUs.
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For the record Flex used as much Morsprincipum, probably a little bit more mg wise, he was by far the biggest user out of the guys at Venice in the late 90s, training wise its also true what he says, most guys train like pussies, or just joke around, then a guy like Dillet would be twice his bodyweight only using half.
Hate admiting that the very top guys do take a lot of gear,dosage slike that arent needed until you have been going for over ten years in my opinion, you can take it earlier but you just end up like a water buffalo as theres no muscle maturity. GH15 real issues is telling guys with very little experiance to go hard early, that will just burn you out, consistency is the key, over many years and keep gradually increasing the mgs and IUs.
you are wrong and you lie ... why don't you ask BiGHeR who has the privilege to work with gh15 .. ask him a little about what gh15 put him on ... don't lie and twist gh15's words
gh15 mentioned his advice is for advanced bodybuilders and if he talked to beginners he mentioned it before hand
people this is WHY gh15 left getbig... because of lies such as this post
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g101
appl85
are you paid
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I would hope
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well to run
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defending your
employers
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Hey bud. I have to do this and do something that will make me look stupid but I feel strongly that its something u may find of value. You are obviously a competitor and look good. Better than me by far.
U follow gh15 and he never goes onto insulin detail. U follow his other adivxe but obviously never seen his insulin advice. I have seen it once and maybe u havnt. This was to a guy that was smaller than you even by a good 20 lbs of muscular weight. It was 30 iu three times a day.
I'm nor sure why u use ten iu but i have and barely notices it. Soon as I used 20 and 25 iu I noticed it world of differance and now 30 iu again ten iu bullshit people use to think is high or what u need is almost ineffective. It's like Ur back to gaining. Pound a day again at this dose while getting leaner. Yea slin can make u leaner teenage girls use it for weight loss on cheerleader forums lol.
Also I know u don't want the infamous gut. But even Ur master gh15 suggested . 30 iu as if its nothing to worry about towards a gut. I beleive its not the cause guts anyways. Gh15 points how gh causes Ur hands and we seen it to grow twice the size or more same as the head. Think of that and how the size of liver intestines and kidneys. Imagine it all growing twice the size even lungs all of it pushing down and out.
Than loin at Tim belknap insulin diabetic user bber of eightys well before that that was just when he admits that his friends such as Mike Christian who we all know of. First came to him and asked insulin. Advice. Now we all know insulin Has alwaya cost pennys and gh use to cost thousands till 90s. So being a addict a bber why not abuse this drug that cost pennys. Which obviously some had to of we all would were addicts. So I'd Tim belknap and he admits his close friend Mike Christian even who knew how many others did obvious many. Yet no guts at all till 90s and really mostly late 90 s . What's the big change. Gh is 100 times cheaper so gh can be abused. So hands skulls noses heads are all twice the size or growing. and.... So are our guts.
Christian and others didn't have guts on insulin. But dorian did in what era. Era of Chinese gh and. heaper gh and igf 1 all same thing in a sense gh converts to igf and igf weather its igf 1 or lr 3 version they all do same hypwrplasia and love the bind to intestines. So If our huge bber livers can't grow from it but our hands to funnier a break. It is plain to see its gh abusg. Mega abuse and or igf 1. It's not insulin. Insulin been used to long and our since 1922 yet no guts.
So if that's reason. Ur not increasing the dosage. Gh15 is great and all. But maybe he don't suggest insulin cause its cheap and cheap from Canada legit pharmacya no prescription. Where's he can suggest lots of gh give people truth and good gains while making money... all bbers got a agenda why doesn't he.. crotch maybe he's just twisting it a little like we all do to make a buck. Cause he can't make money off I insulin but can a ton off gh. Even tho its giving us huge guts and hands. Still good gains but insulin better but no money from it.
Again proof is in the pictures Mike Christian Tom belknap and other 80 pros and early 90 s . Also proof is in the late 90 s dorian etc for guts and cheap gh.
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Large shots at one time cause organ growth, thats what cause the guts, plus overeating and expansion during the period the drug is most active in the body, you are stretching the muscle allowing it to grow, its common sense for anyone other than a GH15 reatrded follower, smaller more frequesnt injections and smaller more regular meals are the trend against the guts of a few years ago, but what would i know ;)
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that cycle sounds about right even if you're a gimmick, the biggest wannabe pros I know run a cc a day of 5+ multiple compounds plus lots of orals. Guys do more in a day than I do in a week :-\
how the hell do you guys not feel like you're about to stroke out or have a heart attack 24/7 is beyond me. And that much gh is insane.. I did 8ius of blues 3 days ago and my hands are still numb.
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lol, the degree to which gh15 is followed is high, because the 30 iu advice ur talking about wasn't actually advice, he threw that number out rhetorically as an example, he didnt tell swalbr to inject 30 iu
Actually ya he did tell someone to inject it and it wasn't swlber. It was the guy who used 20 iu a day gh and made big changes he plain our said now is time to add .30 iu a day three times a day so yea he did say it. And that was to a smaller guy.
So your point.....
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Large shots at one time cause organ growth, thats what cause the guts, plus overeating and expansion during the period the drug is most active in the body, you are stretching the muscle allowing it to grow, its common sense for anyone other than a GH15 reatrded follower, smaller more frequesnt injections and smaller more regular meals are the trend against the guts of a few years ago, but what would i know ;)
What u said has some merit.
So what Ur also is saying is... During gh use its the over using of our breathing that causes our nose to grow so much and over raising of our eye brows causing our heads skulls to grow like. Giant melon.
Ur logic is flawed. If body parts are doubling in Size like a human fucking head. How do u explain that. So it must be causing our guts to grow regardless of when or how u use it long as u abuse it.
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great thread
yes 8)
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5'6 259# fuch yeah Branch is posting his cycle here. Whow to win the Arnold classic u have to take alot of shit.
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IMHO, you looked better in your earlier pics....but I am one of those guys who are like Wes, we live in the past. The size back then was so much less 'freaky'. More power to you, because you do what you want. No flame whatsoever.
Also, I am right there with you when it comes to the training. I always trained balls out. I was never one of those '2hrs in the gym' guys. After about 75 mins, I get damn bored and say 'enough is enough'. What did it get me? Torn pec, torn hamstring, torn tricep tendon, and now I am paying the price with a newly aquired supraspinatus tendon tear, chondromacia patella, multiple tendons that have tendonosis.....
So, right now, I am running my dr. prescribed 200mg/wk.....staying lean...lifting within my pain tolerance...and saying FUCK YOU to that part of the brain that says "You should squatting 400 this week, enough with the higher rep bullshit"
Training smart is the only way to have longevity in this sport. Smart move on your part.
I can't even imagine what you would be able to do with in life if you dedicated all that time and effort to something a little more worthwhile. I admire the amount of sacrifice you put into this but even you realize that its all for a plastic trophy and you seem to be ok with that. I guess as long as you're happy doing what you do is all that really matters.
I have to ask though....are you happy doing all this or do you feel its just become an addiction/obsession and would you stop if you could?
I probably wouldn't have to work hardly as much, looking back and considering how much I've spent on drugs. It's an addiction, I'm happy right now since I am able to stay big and relatively healthy, but as time goes by and I begin to regress I'm not sure what will happen. Only time will tell. 33 years old and stilll gettin older
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Training smart is the only way to have longevity in this sport. Smart move on your part.
Here is the funny thing...I train legs on Saturdays with a friend of mine. I am 43 and he is 27. He is one of those 2hr session guys. I am constantly having to say "ok lets go" when he is between sets. I even have reminded him of the "stimulate, dont annihilate" mantra. Funny thing, is that today he came in and said he was dropping from 6 - 7 days a week training to 4.
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Training smart is the only way to have longevity in this sport. Smart move on your part.
I probably wouldn't have to work hardly as much, looking back and considering how much I've spent on drugs. It's an addiction, I'm happy right now since I am able to stay big and relatively healthy, but as time goes by and I begin to regress I'm not sure what will happen. Only time will tell. 33 years old and stilll gettin older
If you'll stay injury free and won't compromise your health in other way, you don't have to worry much for at least next 12-15years (look T.Freeman) I guess... Overall, I think it's possible to stay "big" till your last day (which probably wouldn't be in the "very old" category.. But who wants to be frail and piss themselves anyway..) with the current pharma available (and 10years down the road there will be new toys). What a "nice" addiction :-X
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Drugs are a huge part of bodybuilding,but injecting yourself 105 times a week is not the usual protocol for most people on this board, or most bodybuilders in general.
No offense bro,but that`s crazy in my eyes,but to each his own,you have a great physique.
didnt he have another thread where he first mentioned he was doing 100+ pins a weekk, and then he was outed as using some bodybuilders pic as himself? JErry something?
or did he post new/real pics?
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didnt he have another thread where he first mentioned he was doing 100+ pins a weekk, and then he was outed as using some bodybuilders pic as himself? JErry something?
or did he post new/real pics?
He did mention 105 injects per week before,but I don`t recall the fake pics referance. ???
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He did mention 105 injects per week before,but I don`t recall the fake pics referance. ???
yeah he had posted some headless pics of himself supposedly in a show, but someone here had found the actual pics, and it belonged to a german or polish bodybuilder, jerry something
after that, i just wrote this dude off as a troll
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yeah he had posted some headless pics of himself supposedly in a show, but someone here had found the actual pics, and it belonged to a german or polish bodybuilder, jerry something
That sounds vaguely familiar,but I just woke up and need more coffee to think clearly.
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OP you may fool thesep eople, but i konw that you're a troll/fake account ::)
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OP you may fool thesep eople, but i konw that you're a troll/fake account ::)
Yeah the pics he posted belong to Jerry Koolhoven. Thats why he was ran off of BB.com.even though he said he "left". They messaged Jerry Koolhoven asking if he had a BB.com forum account and he said yeah and gave the username, it was a different name. They found out OP is some kid who used to post in the teen bodybuilding forums, I forget the username though. But this guy isnt a pro, he is a very young guy.
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Yeah the pics he posted belong to Jerry Koolhoven. Thats why he was ran off of BB.com.even though he said he "left". They messaged Jerry Koolhoven asking if he had a BB.com forum account and he said yeah and gave the username, it was a different name. They found out OP is some kid who used to post in the teen bodybuilding forums, I forget the username though. But this guy isnt a pro, he is a very young guy.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Did you consider that perhaps Jerry was lying and didn't want people to know his stack and number of injections per week.
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Did you consider that perhaps Jerry was lying and didn't want people to know his stack and number of injections per week.
then why the fuck would he post his pics and stack???
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When you publicly let it be known that you use steroids it hurts your chances at getting contracts within the bbing/fitness industry. Look at that model christian boeving being fired from muscletech after admitting steroid use.
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When you publicly let it be known that you use steroids it hurts your chances at getting contracts within the bbing/fitness industry. Look at that model christian boeving being fired from muscletech after admitting steroid use.
You think it really matters unless you're top 10 in the IFBB?
Nobody has supplement contracts in the NABBA, even the top guys
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this place sux,,,us your real pics/persona..
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Are they his real pics or not ???
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https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=653&q=Jerry+Koolhoven&gbv=2&oq=Jerry+Koolhoven&aq=f&aqi=g-S1&aql=&gs_sm=12&gs_upl=2027l2027l0l3280l1l1l0l0l0l0l156l156l0.1l1l0&gs_l=img.12..0i24.2027l2027l0l3281l1l1l0l0l0l0l156l156l0j1l1l0
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EDIT - I only read the first page when I made my response. What is the deal, this is a kid trolling us?
I love the honesty.
You look damn good in your pictures too.
My question is, do you think you could make the same gains if you lowered the dose of all those drugs?
I guess what I am saying it, did you slowly work your way up to those high doses, or have you always been a heavy doser?
Reason I bring it up is because I am wondering if you could make the same gains if you dropped those doses by 30-40%,
especially with all that GH in there. There has got to be a point of diminishing returns, I mean, does tren really work that much
better at 1400mg per week than it does at 700mg?
Have you considered blasting with decent doses, then not taking a single shot for 3-4 weeks and doing it again?
I'm thinking if you let your body get a break for 3-4 weeks every couple months, you might gain better on even less gear.
If your blood work is good on what you are doing now, then screw it I guess....seems to be working awesome for you, I am impressed
you can tolerate all that.
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What's the point of taking so much when you aren't even competing?
Sheeet, how much better would your life be if you dropped the aas to 1gram per week and the gh to 5-10 iu ed. Think about the money you'd have left over. With the gh in you'd still have a pussy slaying physique.
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Well,he is competing you idiot in case you missed that ::)
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Well,he is competing you idiot in case you missed that ::)
ChevChavious: Suck ya mom f-ggot ;D
OP: I missed the competing part. Keep doing what you need to be competitive.
But still :o at 6 grams per week. I'm on 600mg a week at the moment and I'm feeling like it is a lot. Only Pinning eod and still feeling like a pin cusion.
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You think it really matters unless you're top 10 in the IFBB?
Nobody has supplement contracts in the NABBA, even the top guys
I have no idea.
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Here you have it
THE TRUTH FROM A REAL COMPETITOR.
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So.. fella is a troll?
If so - that's some mental illness (way more srs than bodybuilding lol)..
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I logged on here for the first time in a month or so and see these pics, thought they looked familiar...
I know Jerry Koolhoven (great supps ;)), want me to verify if this is him? I do remember he was active on a Benelux BB-board before so it's likely to be him here as well.
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I logged on here for the first time in a month or so and see these pics, thought they looked familiar...
I know Jerry Koolhoven (great supps ;)), want me to verify if this is him? I do remember he was active on a Benelux BB-board before so it's likely to be him here as well.
Yes verify man, good looking out
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Yeah the pics he posted belong to Jerry Koolhoven. Thats why he was ran off of BB.com.even though he said he "left". They messaged Jerry Koolhoven asking if he had a BB.com forum account and he said yeah and gave the username, it was a different name. They found out OP is some kid who used to post in the teen bodybuilding forums, I forget the username though. But this guy isnt a pro, he is a very young guy.
yea its zincton lmao, its so ovbious since he would change his opinion 10 timesi n the last 10 months
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You think it really matters unless you're top 10 in the IFBB?
Nobody has supplement contracts in the NABBA, even the top guys
what about admitting you are a drug dealer?don't you think that may hurt your BB rep? I bet you are a real small time hustler ;D
you don't know what a drug dealer really is! You probably make enough to pay for your personal gear and maybe our rent! . You are a small time peddler at most.
or do you think you are a kingpin type drug dealer making 100,000 a month? I know some guys who would laugh at your assets.
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Calm down, he's only trying to explain what it's like at the very top. The abuse, the dealing, the daily injections. Morsprincipium is the real deal, and one of the most honest guys you'll find in this "sport".
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I would hope
you are paid
well to run
from thread
to thread
defending your
employers
Ok none of these guys are paid by gh15. Lots of people including myself followed parts of his advice and saw immediate results, these guys included.
If this post is a flame, then it's a flame. We ate after all on the Internet. Not too serious. However I really do see why some people , including myself, would support gh15 . Some of his advanced tips changed the game for me and at one point, when I had the right product, got me to 242 at 6 percent bf.
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Keep your threats on the G&O g101.
I'm done with your nonsense on here.
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Calm down, he's only trying to explain what it's like at the very top. The abuse, the dealing, the daily injections. Morsprincipium is the real deal, and one of the most honest guys you'll find in this "sport".
It seems that people don't like the truth ? :-\
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You think it really matters unless you're top 10 in the IFBB?
Nobody has supplement contracts in the NABBA, even the top guys
yeh they do,,,, i could name a few off the top of me head, elwood, titterton, lister...
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Calm down, he's only trying to explain what it's like at the very top. The abuse, the dealing, the daily injections. Morsprincipium is the real deal, and one of the most honest guys you'll find in this "sport".
I like the guy alot as well...good honest dude..
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So is OP a troll or what?
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lol we have competitors in brazil, the teens ones that are on my team
a new legion of gh15 pupils is coming into shows next yu.
be aware south americana boys ;D ;D
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It seems that people don't like the truth ? :-\
The truth is is that this forum isn't a fraction of what it once was when gh15 was posting. The board desperately needs him to come back.