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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Danny-Boy on April 08, 2014, 09:08:59 PM
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This just in...one of my favorite crazies. RIP
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http://larrybrownsports.com/wrestling/ultimate-warrior-dead-triple-h-tweet/225476
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The Ultimate Warrior, real name James Hellwig, passed away on Tuesday according to a Tweet from Triple H. The Warrior was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame over the weekend and appeared at Wrestlemania over the weekend. He also participated on this week’s Monday Night Raw.
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Wtf
He was on raw last night!!?
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Just saw this, R.I.P. :-( actually just stumbled across his insane interview last few years challenging Hogan to MMA fight, and whatnot. Would've never known it was him in those recent vids :-/
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My top Favorite Wrestler as a kid :'(
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It was probably a heart attack that he was genetically pre-disposed too ???
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God dammit. My favorite childhood wrestler. Glad he was inducted just in time.
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He looked like he wasn't walking good last night on Raw.
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My favorite wrestler as a little kid. PIP.
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i remember going bananas as a kid when i saw this live at grandmas house, i heard the music and went full retard in under a second
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He looked like he wasn't walking good last night on Raw.
I said the same thing as he walked out last night. I don't know if the showed his entrance on TV but live he looked hobbled. The group I went with were stunned by his entrance. Very sad news.
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I said the same thing as he walked out last night. I don't know if the showed his entrance on TV but live he looked hobbled. The group I went with were stunned by his entrance. Very sad news.
They kept cutting away from it.
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nooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo o :'(
that was my guy as a kid....fuck
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Wake up sleeping fucking beauties! 3:10
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :'(
that was my guy as a kid....fuck
The Gods have called home their Warrior son. He was many things, electrifying, awe-inspiring. He trancended from being a mere mortal, the Dingo Warrior, to what the Gods allowed him to be, The Ultimate Warrior. Ares has called him home to the Pantheon of the Gods. But, we shall always remember him as the Gods intended him...no mere mortal, but a Warrior.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/pro-wrestling-legend-ultimate-warrior-dead-54/story?id=23250160 (http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/pro-wrestling-legend-ultimate-warrior-dead-54/story?id=23250160)
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The Gods have called home their Warrior son. He was many things, electrifying, awe-inspiring. He trancended from being a mere mortal, the Dingo Warrior, to what the Gods allowed him to be, The Ultimate Warrior. Ares has called him home to the Pantheon of the Gods. But, we shall always remember him as the Gods intended him...no mere mortal, but a Warrior.
Despite what many have said, he hasnt looked healthy to me in alot of his recent interviews..his skin was beet red
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9:52 PM PT -- Officials tell TMZ ... Warrior collapsed outside an Arizona hotel at 5:50 PM on April 8th ... while walking to his car with his wife.
Warrior was transported to a nearby hospital ... where he was pronounced dead.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2yMZ62yuw
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From last night on Raw.
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I just posted a video on FB from his HOF speech last night but can't post it here from a phone.
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He was far and away my favorite as a kid. Pissed me off that they didn't let him totally dominate Hogan in Wrestlemania 6, which I saw on closed circuit tv at the beacon theater. People are saying suicide but I'm not sold, he had that Don Youngblood not long for this mortal coil beet red skin. Interesting to hear what did it, but he paid a price for being larger than life. He was probably holding on for the induction and was able to pass peacefully finally getting that closure.
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I was just commenting a few days ago that with all the deaths in bodybuilding, the WWE hasn't had one in awhile. :-\
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Me and my cousin would always wrestle in our tighty whiteys when we were like 4 and I would always go beyond full-retard as Warrior to his Hulk Hogan or Randy Savage...Damn RIP
I had one of these as a little tike too...TEAM WARRIOR!
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Major fucking bummer.
PIP Warrior PIP
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Him finally returning to WWE and talking about death in his speech, plus his physical condition leads you to believe he probably knew he wasn't gonna be around for much longer.
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My favorite wrestler as a kid!
One of the best ones for sure.
RIP
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He is my all-time favorite...RIP Warrior
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All of them dying how come hogan is still alive?
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I'm so sadden by this, but what an incredible storybook ending to his life and career. A true inspirational hero to me and a big part of my childhood. RIP WARRIOR...
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yea he was one of my favorites also,RIP
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It was probably a heart attack that he was genetically pre-disposed too ???
i read his dad died at 52 and his grandfather died at 57
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Great dude - loved his rambling vids where he often made some pretty good points.
Farewell gentle giant.
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The ultimate warrior died today at 54. He started his career as a bodybuilder and then turned to entertainment wrestling.
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Moderators please delete. I didn't see the other Ultimate Warrior thread.
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Ya just can't replace guys like this.....
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Always thought wrestling was gay as shit, but Ultimate Warrior always seemed cool, was my go to man on the arcade game.
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I think a grown, adult male being a fan of wrestling is more embarrassing than bodybuilding.
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I think a grown, adult male being a fan of wrestling is more embarrassing than bodybuilding.
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RIP
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I think a grown, adult male being a fan of wrestling is more embarrassing than bodybuilding.
The Ultimate Warriors death brings back a flood of memories from my youth.
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keep track of the grey hairs due to heme-iron
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I was just commenting a few days ago that with all the deaths in bodybuilding, the WWE hasn't had one in awhile. :-\
You jinxed him.
All bad jokes aside, I just saw him and his kids on TV a few days ago. It's fairly obvious that he was using a large amount of juice back in the day for extended periods of time. I'm sure that didn't help.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xR08M6EUd0g
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fE0ZESNF7dE
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Just sucks that he's gone, but he didn't look right on RAW on Monday.
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RIP.
Everybody at my work says he die cause steroids.
WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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RIP.
Everybody at my work says he die cause steroids.
WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
TELL everybody at work to put down the donuts and stay out of vending machine..
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RIP
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54 is young....RIP and condolences to his family
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I was just commenting a few days ago that with all the deaths in bodybuilding, the WWE hasn't had one in awhile. :-\
Actually, the last one was about a month ago. That was Nelson Frazier, better known as Mabel/ Viscera/ Big Daddy V.
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we all get warning sings wether they come in the form of redness, zits, aches, pains, high bp, insomnia, heart palp, shortness of breath, asthma, flu,grey hair, stomach pain, allergies ect
i dont understand why more people like the ultimate warrior couldve simply posted on a forum and got varied opinions (even if shitty posts) from other people so they could develop a system of tactics on there own
apparantly the ultimate warrior and millions of others dont seek to obtain knowledge like this for some very weird reason(s)
again you dont just drop dead, people have signs, i beleive everything is fixable, but not fixable if you never adjust and ignore the warnings RIP dude you wouldve lived longer if you wouldve posted i wouldve helped and other posters wouldve helped indirectly because they are so stupid and ignorant that it would be easy to decide not to follow them!
here is a peaceful song for you
and remember my songs are always the best
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as a psychologist i can say that this man wanted to die, its the only logical explanation
if the man wanted to live he wouldve posted about it on some forums perhaps he did? and was ill advised to eat more meat?
not to make light of the situation but we got to be realistic
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in life we have to prepare ourselves to be immortal its the only way . SOmething inside you is wanting you to prepare for immortality we all can agree with this but the most part of you accepts death because you dont beleive in any other destiny but death. BUt you see the only reason you are not killing yourself right now is that the 1% immortal you inside you, prevents you from doing such a thing, its a powerful 1% eventually the more years that pass and the better you take care of yourself i beleive that this 1% immortal self could possibly grow into 10% immortal beleif system, this is the stage where your start building rockets and spaceships, when you reach the 90% immortal beleif system, this is when your locating and settling upon new worlds starting new civilizations and creating unimaginable things in the distant future
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gasping for air like an asthmatic rapist
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TELL everybody at work to put down the donuts and stay out of vending machine..
There's a better chance for the Warrior suddenly dropping dead like he did than for his coworkers to stop visiting the vending machine each day.
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Paul Walker
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May Owen Wilson of peace pose in peace
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Fuck, I know alcoholics with the physique of Homer Simpson who live off cookies and chips who live longer.
Still sad to him go, regardless of the cause.
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Fuck, I know alcoholics with the physique of Homer Simpson who live off cookies and chips who live longer.
Still sad to him go, regardless of the cause.
shizzo is only in his 30's
just wait
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shizzo is only in his 30's
just wait
Funny, I thought about him after I wrote that. haha
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"The grass has grown thick on the grave of my youth." - Solzhenitsyn
R.I.P., you crazy bastard.
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Keeping it BB related he competed in the 85 USA's! RIP Warrior! Unreal, gets inducted into HOF on Sunday dies on Tuesday.
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One of my fav's as a kid also. It was a very cool look. I was prob a little older than "a kid" but he had just as much to do with inspiring me to lift as Arnold did. I actually always loved the look of Benoit??? Not sure on the spelling.
We didn't just see these guys standing around and doing mandatories, we got to see them in high intensity action. Made it look more like something we could have fun doing.
Very sad. We are reaching the era where these guys are paying the price for the way they lived in their youth. Too bad. Also can't believe some of the guys that are STILL goin' strong at 60 or over. Insane world, that Pro Wrestling.
Cena is taking on more of the Pro BB look too...
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From last night on Raw.
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Holy fuck. PROPHESIED !!!! My condolences to all you fucking idiot wrestling fans.
TRIBUTE
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RIP Justice Jim
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RIP.
Everybody at my work says he die cause steroids.
WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
well they re right, the steroid abuse certainly didnt lenghten his life expectancy.
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I posted this on the wrestling board on Saturday and Sunday.. both days he came out he looked short of breath and tired.. Saturday at the hall of fame.. he was sweating profusely and was short of breath... he looked like he had high blood pressure... on Sunday when he was announced at wrestlemania.. he came out and was grabbing his chest numerous times.. they said the same of Eddie Guerro before he died.. he was having the same symptoms.. before he had his heart attack :-\
RIP..
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Warrior took this picture with a fan the day he died
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Warrior took this picture with a fan the day he died
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Nothing out of the ordinary for him. He probably takes pictures with fans every day of his life.
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Its very surreal that he died after his speech at the Hall of Fame and on Raw. His words were prophetic, like he knew he was about to die and had made peace before it. The whole thing seems like too much of a coincidence. But he looked awful at the Hall of Fame and on Monday Night. He was hobbling around, very out of breath, serious redness and sweating. I honestly think that the strain and excitement from the last few days are what accelerated his death.
Typical wrestler death - enlarged heart, blocked arteries. A life on the road, steroids, alcohol, cocaine, painkillers, fast food, lack of sleep. I will say one thing though - the biggest, most "roided" up guys seem to be far more prone to heart attacks and health problems at a younger age.
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Nothing out of the ordinary for him. He probably takes pictures with fans every day of his life.
It is out of the ordinary because he died hours after this picture was taken
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shizzo is only in his 30's
just wait
lolz
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soooo much white trash
unbelievable
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whoa, sad news. RIP :'(
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Its very surreal that he died after his speech at the Hall of Fame and on Raw. His words were prophetic, like he knew he was about to die and had made peace before it. The whole thing seems like too much of a coincidence. But he looked awful at the Hall of Fame and on Monday Night. He was hobbling around, very out of breath, serious redness and sweating. I honestly think that the strain and excitement from the last few days are what accelerated his death.
Typical wrestler death - enlarged heart, blocked arteries. A life on the road, steroids, alcohol, cocaine, painkillers, fast food, lack of sleep. I will say one thing though - the biggest, most "roided" up guys seem to be far more prone to heart attacks and health problems at a younger age.
Very true, man. Good ass post. He definitely looked like he burned through the last bit of juice in his tank giving that speech.
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Peaches Geldof
So easily forgotten
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R.I.P. Ultimate Warrior. He was one of my favourite wrestlers as a kid.
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He looked like he wasn't walking good last night on Raw.
I noticed that as well.
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Its very surreal that he died after his speech at the Hall of Fame and on Raw. His words were prophetic, like he knew he was about to die and had made peace before it. The whole thing seems like too much of a coincidence. But he looked awful at the Hall of Fame and on Monday Night. He was hobbling around, very out of breath, serious redness and sweating. I honestly think that the strain and excitement from the last few days are what accelerated his death.
Typical wrestler death - enlarged heart, blocked arteries. A life on the road, steroids, alcohol, cocaine, painkillers, fast food, lack of sleep. I will say one thing though - the biggest, most "roided" up guys seem to be far more prone to heart attacks and health problems at a younger age.
movie the wrestler nailed it ,swollen slightly disfigured face from self inflicted'wrestling blood angle'matches,from steroid use bloat,swollen look from over taxing body with fluid retaining drugs,the neck especially gets that roid look ,warrior had that neck look look like it was going to burst,mickey roarke had that whole look nailed for that movie..
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Peaches Geldof
So easily forgotten
Yes.....she was such an immeasurable benefit to society. ::)
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movie the wrestler nailed it ,swollen slightly disfigured face from self inflicted'wrestling blood angle'matches,from steroid use bloat,swollen look from over taxing body with fluid retaining drugs,the neck especially gets that roid look ,warrior had that neck look look like it was going to burst,mickey roarke had that whole look nailed for that movie..
The Wrestler is a beautiful, suicidal tendency inducing movie. I actually watched it back-to-back the first time I saw it, it was that good... but, I basically wanted to kill myself. Very depressing movie but I think people should see it. The ending too... damn. Too much real life.
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The Wrestler is a beautiful, suicidal tendency inducing movie. I actually watched it back-to-back the first time I saw it, it was that good... but, I basically wanted to kill myself. Very depressing movie but I think people should see it. The ending too... damn. Too much real life.
IT WAS GREAT MOVIE
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Yes a depressing film, especially because it is a true reflection of what happened to many of the wrestling stars of previous years. Very few wrestlers from the 80's/early 90's wrestling boom had positive endings to their careers/lives.
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Peaches Geldof
So easily forgotten
Yeah, its to be expected that more people on a site called GETBIG would give more consideration to the death of the ULTIMATE WARRIOR as opposed to some silver spooned socialite, who has received martyrdom through popular media for, eh, being a mother and dying?
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Yes a depressing film, especially because it is a true reflection of what happened to many of the wrestling stars of previous years. Very few wrestlers from the 80's/early 90's wrestling boom had positive endings to their careers/lives.
HULK HOGAN is lucky by his nature of being always out there promoting and getting good people doing buissness and him keeping himself in line so he never had to wrestle or appear in a ymca or high school auditorium matches or autograph signings..
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Ya just can't replace guys like this.....
:D Fucking awesome!
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keep track of the grey hairs due to heme-iron
Eating meat and steroids daily will cut you short, how many years do you think he would of lived without eating these items Marty? I say 20 at least.
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He was an intense man, but seemed like he enjoyed his fans.
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... the steroid abuse certainly didn't lengthten his life expectancy ~
I like that.
So fucking true.
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Good ass post.
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he died like mickey rourke in the wrestler. one last performance :'(
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He was an intense man, but seemed like he enjoyed his fans.
I Cruised through this and he was really into getting names and going out of his way to thank them or reminisce .he seemed genuinely pleased,that was cool..dude was lean and his chest was never great always looked like it had tears it looked steinerish here but he was ripped so it kinda blended .
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Woke this morning with the news. :(
I, like many others here, was (and still am) a huge fan of Warrior. In fact, right now, on my wall, is my old poster of the dude riding down a desert highway on his motorcycle. (As a single man, I get to indulge my inner child whenever and however I want to.)
As another member has said, it's likely the intensity, excitement and stress of his last few days added greatly to what was more than likely very poor health. Sped the "process" along, as it were.
Everything about Warrior influenced me and made me who I have become as a lifter and spirit.
That intensity and his belief in it was really something. In his prime, he was a force with which to be reckoned, in any sense. Wrestling is fake? Well, that man was REAL and one VERY powerful presence.
My condolences to his family, friends and all the other fans who mourn his death.
HAIL WARRIOR!
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I Cruised through this and he was really into getting names and going out of his way to thank them or reminisce .he seemed genuinely pleased,that was cool..dude was lean and his chest was never great always looked like it had tears it looked steinerish here but he was ripped so it kinda blended .
When it comes to retired wrestlers he definitely ended his life on the highest note possible. Was inducted in the hall of fame in the biggest and best wrestling organization to ever exist within an era in which wrasslin fans know exactly who he is and what he did. He also gave one final speech on the biggest wrestling program in the world to a bunch of cheering fans.
Next day his life ended.....Warrior went out on top.
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he looked real bad doing the last interview, he was as red as don youngblood was before he died, hope he wasn't using TRT, he needed to shrink post wrestling and normalise his body for the fight ahead, ive seen people that red before, they usually end up having a triple by pass after blockages are discovered he sounded like he was suffocating the other night, shame like many others he couldn't have survived and treated his symptoms, who knows maybe he did, his face certainly looked starved of oxygen the other night.
RIP
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Sad news... One of the most iconic wrestler/celebrity of late 80s-early 90s, he was a legend... He had very basic abilities, but he had an unmatched charisma, and his awesome peak physique is still overall the best in the WWF/WWE history, in my opinion... R.I.P. Warrior...
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Will be trip #2 to the Casket for Ultimate Warrior
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One of my favorites to watch growing up. I had his action figure. I also remember he was the most fun to play in that WWF arcade game.
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Heard this today from my son's mother. Have his entrance music in my car for my pre gym track list. First time my son heard it he went crazy, got into WWE and now is obsessed with the Ultimate Warrior. He even dressed as him last Halloween.
Not sure how to break the news to him :-[
Raw energy. PIP
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He got back to do more wrestling, probably needed money.
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My top Favorite Wrestler as a kid :'(
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same here. it was so nice to see him at WM :'(
I am taking a day off work to go to the funeral. Anyone know where Parts Unkown is on a map?
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One of my favorites to watch growing up. I had his action figure. I also remember he was the most fun to play in that WWF arcade game.
Was it the one where you had the match with Andre the Giant and Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase at the end? I played the hell out of that game.
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he looked real bad doing the last interview, he was as red as don youngblood was before he died, hope he wasn't using TRT, he needed to shrink post wrestling and normalise his body for the fight ahead, ive seen people that red before, they usually end up having a triple by pass after blockages are discovered he sounded like he was suffocating the other night, shame like many others he couldn't have survived and treated his symptoms, who knows maybe he did, his face certainly looked starved of oxygen the other night.
RIP
I just did some sunbeds and melanotan. Now the red face gone. All is well.
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Eating meat and steroids daily will cut you short, how many years do you think he would of lived without eating these items Marty? I say 20 at least.
much more than that, we dont really have anyone to reference that worked out and was a vegetarian all his life maybe a "few" guys thats IT
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Fuck, I know alcoholics with the physique of Homer Simpson who live off cookies and chips who live longer.
Still sad to him go, regardless of the cause.
Doh!!!
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when will HOgan die?
how old is HOgan now?
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Was it the one where you had the match with Andre the Giant and Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase at the end? I played the hell out of that game.
Best arcade game ever in my opinion
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When it comes to retired wrestlers he definitely ended his life on the highest note possible. Was inducted in the hall of fame in the biggest and best wrestling organization to ever exist within an era in which wrasslin fans know exactly who he is and what he did. He also gave one final speech on the biggest wrestling program in the world to a bunch of cheering fans.
Next day his life ended.....Warrior went out on top.
Well said. His passing under these circumstances is only going to enhance his Legend and aura...what a storybook way to go...almost surreal. He will be more popular than ever before.
On that note, anyone know what the "official" cause of death was?
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officially, he died to hike up the sales of the DVD
that Vince will do anything..
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Watching wrestlemania right now on the network..
There showing hulk vs. Warrior later on tonight
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He got back to do more wrestling, probably needed money.
Unless somewhere along the line they have managed to cultivate and master another profession, or line of work... it's pretty much all they've got.
Professional wrestling is more than a full-time job.
I'm fairly certain that once you realize you are good at what you do and have chosen it as your career, especially in that line of work, or even bodybuilding, you pretty much have to figure if that's where it started, that's where it's gonna end.
I believe it would be the same for even a truckdriver. There just simply is not enough time to master another profession.
I was fortunate. I managed to begin with three professions and I managed to juggle them and still be consistent in my work and now I am retiring in the one that I knew I would retire into, and it does not and will not consume me. I won't let it.
I had to pay the price by working 24/7 for the first 35 years, and I am still paying for that physically and mentally, but now (hopefully) I can retire comfortably and gracefully without having to kill myself to continue making enough money to pay the bills and enjoy myself once in a while..
Pro Wrestlers deserve a lot of respect for what they do. The time they spend on film is so small compared to the rest of what they do.... like travel...and train... ALL THE TIME! Fuck that! Unless you want to be single for the rest of your life and live like a nomad... and possibly make a bunch of money... maybe...
Go for it?
Sometimes I have to wonder why the Rolling Stones don't retire. You know each of them has enough money to buy whatever they want and retire without ever worrying about finances.
Shit gets in your blood and it doesn't go away even when u r as old as fuck.
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Unless somewhere along the line they have managed to cultivate and master another profession, or line of work... it's pretty much all they've got.
Professional wrestling is more than a full-time job.
I'm fairly certain that once you realize you are good at what you do and have chosen it as your career, especially in that line of work, or even bodybuilding, you pretty much have to figure if that's where it started, that's where it's gonna end.
I believe it would be the same for even a truckdriver. There just simply is not enough time to master another profession.
I was fortunate. I managed to begin with three professions and I managed to juggle them and still be consistent in my work and now I am retiring in the one that I knew I would retire into, and it does not and will not consume me. I won't let it.
I had to pay the price by working 24/7 for the first 35 years, and I am still paying for that physically and mentally, but now (hopefully) I can retire comfortably and gracefully without having to kill myself to continue making enough money to pay the bills and enjoy myself once in a while..
Pro Wrestlers deserve a lot of respect for what they do. The time they spend on film is so small compared to the rest of what they do.... like travel...and train... ALL THE TIME! Fuck that! Unless you want to be single for the rest of your life and live like a nomad... and possibly make a bunch of money... maybe...
Go for it?
Sometimes I have to wonder why the Rolling Stones don't retire. You know each of them has enough money to buy whatever they want and retire without ever worrying about finances.
Shit gets in your blood and it doesn't go away even when u r as old as fuck.
i like your posts ,tad long but they sum up well..
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Heard this today from my son's mother. Have his entrance music in my car for my pre gym track list. First time my son heard it he went crazy, got into WWE and now is obsessed with the Ultimate Warrior. He even dressed as him last Halloween.
Not sure how to break the news to him :-[
Raw energy. PIP
the light that burns twice as bright lasts half as long.
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I used to love when he did these
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cool,,see him lean/hard,full/large,combo all,and smaller/softer during drug test yr too...freak in and out ,,rip big man..
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at his freakiest..
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was he the best built pro wrester?
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My favorite wrestler behind Scott Steiner(earlier wcw days).
And yeah, I wore the face paint for halloween.
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was he the best built pro wrester?
yes IMO
others were bigger (warlord etc)
but none had his level of definition as well
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yes IMO
others were bigger (warlord etc)
but none had his level of definition as well
Warrior probably could of competed if he had wheels.
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was he the best built pro wrester?
Has definitely gotta be top 3. Tony atlas was ahead of his time and has gotta be up there also
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Anyone notice how red he looked? Warrior looked lean and vascular. One can only wonder if he jumped back on whatever his elixir was to showboat in the ring. Really enjoyed watching him...crazy, not good with the mic or technical skills but he did bring excitement.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!
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was he the best built pro wrester?
At his best, arguably yes. Warrior and Steiner in the top 2 all time.
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i like your posts ,tad long but they sum up well..
Lol ~ Yup. I'm pretty sure that "rambling on" is a trademark of mine.
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Lol ~ Yup. I'm pretty sure that "rambling on" is a trademark of mine.
Zepellin fan?
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Here is an ol skool warrior back stage story ......
One story that I liked, and I can believe (though honestly, who knows if it's true) was that Ultimate Warrior and Brutus The Barber Beefcake were in the back at this house show, getting the paltry catering that was on offer. Warrior was all dressed up in his ring gear and face paint and was 'in the zone': talking to himself, muttering, getting into character. For some reason, he wasn't holding his plate level at all so whatever food he put on his plate kept sliding off. After this happened a few times, Brutus asked "Hey Jim, you need a hand?"
Warrior turns to him, throws his plate on the ground, points at his facepaint and yells "FUCK! WHEN I GOT MY SHIT ON, MY NAME 'AIN'T JIM!"
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This just in...one of my favorite crazies. RIP
Not sure if anyone posted it, but you should all check out his speech from Monday Night Raw. He died HOURS after it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR08M6EUd0g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR08M6EUd0g)
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Has definitely gotta be top 3. Tony atlas was ahead of his time and has gotta be up there also
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Tony had a similar body to Sergio Oliva circa 1972.
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Tony had a similar body to Sergio Oliva circa 1972.
atlas was a strong ass hell also dont forget superstar billy grahm he wasnt so much a great body as just big and strong as hell competed in worlds strongest man
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atlas was a strong ass hell also dont forget superstar billy grahm he wasnt so much a great body as just big and strong as hell competed in worlds strongest man
billy graham must have thought of arnie as a girlie man
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This is the best
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Warrior probably could of competed if he had wheels.
He did compete when he was younger but Im not sure how at what kind of level. Also, he had decent proportionate wheels, at least at the time.
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yes IMO
others were bigger (warlord etc)
but none had his level of definition as well
Lex Luger and Rick Rude came close in terms of definition but never had the same powerful look.
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But Tony Atlas has to have been the best built in a classic bodybuilding sense.
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Getbigs very own Bob Chick was a fan...
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He did compete when he was younger but Im not sure how at what kind of level. Also, he had decent proportionate wheels, at least at the time.
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He was quite the talent - his genetic makeup screamed power especially when you take his height into account.
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Warrior probably could of competed if he had wheels.
He did compete.....won the 84 Georgia State and competed in the NPC Nationals.
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;)
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Hellwig,+James (http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Hellwig,+James)
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Unless somewhere along the line they have managed to cultivate and master another profession, or line of work... it's pretty much all they've got.
Professional wrestling is more than a full-time job.
I'm fairly certain that once you realize you are good at what you do and have chosen it as your career, especially in that line of work, or even bodybuilding, you pretty much have to figure if that's where it started, that's where it's gonna end.
I believe it would be the same for even a truckdriver. There just simply is not enough time to master another profession.
I was fortunate. I managed to begin with three professions and I managed to juggle them and still be consistent in my work and now I am retiring in the one that I knew I would retire into, and it does not and will not consume me. I won't let it.
I had to pay the price by working 24/7 for the first 35 years, and I am still paying for that physically and mentally, but now (hopefully) I can retire comfortably and gracefully without having to kill myself to continue making enough money to pay the bills and enjoy myself once in a while..
Pro Wrestlers deserve a lot of respect for what they do. The time they spend on film is so small compared to the rest of what they do.... like travel...and train... ALL THE TIME! Fuck that! Unless you want to be single for the rest of your life and live like a nomad... and possibly make a bunch of money... maybe...
Go for it?
Sometimes I have to wonder why the Rolling Stones don't retire. You know each of them has enough money to buy whatever they want and retire without ever worrying about finances.
Shit gets in your blood and it doesn't go away even when u r as old as fuck.
Good post, well said.
When my dad was wrestling he was on the road 300 days a year sometimes. Although there was no drugs back then, it was a rough life and hard on marriages and family's. I'm glad that when it came time for my father to retire, he did and didn't look back. It would have been so sad to see him lenger around like so many over the past few years.
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atlas
rocky Johnson
putski'at times'
snuka'mid 70's early 80's sick build
rude
luger
DINO BRAVO 'MONSTER'
WARLORD
Kerry von erich
jim powers
paul roma 'great build'
don muraco 'later version'crazy vascularity.
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wrestling and bodybuilding is only negative and unhealthy, it's better to study specific subjects and science, nature, exploration and space in general
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Here is an ol skool warrior back stage story ......
One story that I liked, and I can believe (though honestly, who knows if it's true) was that Ultimate Warrior and Brutus The Barber Beefcake were in the back at this house show, getting the paltry catering that was on offer. Warrior was all dressed up in his ring gear and face paint and was 'in the zone': talking to himself, muttering, getting into character. For some reason, he wasn't holding his plate level at all so whatever food he put on his plate kept sliding off. After this happened a few times, Brutus asked "Hey Jim, you need a hand?"
Warrior turns to him, throws his plate on the ground, points at his facepaint and yells "FUCK! WHEN I GOT MY SHIT ON, MY NAME 'AIN'T JIM!"
I completely believe this story. When I was 13 I went to taping of Saturday Night's Main event in Landover, MD. My father's friend was a rigger who worked backstage and set up the lights for all the events at the now defunct Cap Center. This was late 1987.
Anyways....My father, me and my cousin were granted backstage access to meet with this friend of my dad's. We saw all the wrestlers that were on the card for that night. It was awesome. The first guy we saw getting out of limo was Macho Man Randy Savage. He looked at us smiled and said 'How y'all doin?' That was pretty cool.
Then we saw Andre the Giant heading for the food catering. He was fucking enormous and had the biggest head I've ever seen. He was involved in the main event against Hogan and Dibiase. Actually the main event was Savage and Honky Tonk man.
Ultimate warrior was wrestling a dark match to open the show. He was all decked out in his face paint and hyping himself up. I remember him breathing heavily and pysching himself up and pacing back and forth, looking at the floor. He looked pretty intense and he was jacked up. ahhh....good times as a kid.
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Warrior was not a big boned guy; the same as most bodybuilder types.
Small joints and medium to small bones with big muscle bellies.
Considering this; Warrior put the best bodyslam ever on Andre
the Giant AFTER Andre got real heavy - around 550.
There were others who did very good slams on Andre when he was
around 400. Considering Warrior's overall size this was a very impressive feat.
Scott Hall (Razor Ramone) and Larry Zbyszko talk about this along with
talking about Arnold S. around the 2:50 mark.
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I completely believe this story. When I was 13 I went to taping of Saturday Night's Main event in Landover, MD. My father's friend was a rigger who worked backstage and set up the lights for all the events at the now defunct Cap Center. This was late 1987.
Anyways....My father, me and my cousin were granted backstage access to meet with this friend of my dad's. We saw all the wrestlers that were on the card for that night. It was awesome. The first guy we saw getting out of limo was Macho Man Randy Savage. He looked at us smiled and said 'How y'all doin?' That was pretty cool.
Then we saw Andre the Giant heading for the food catering. He was fucking enormous and had the biggest head I've ever seen. He was involved in the main event against Hogan and Dibiase. Actually the main event was Savage and Honky Tonk man.
Ultimate warrior was wrestling a dark match to open the show. He was all decked out in his face paint and hyping himself up. I remember him breathing heavily and pysching himself up and pacing back and forth, looking at the floor. He looked pretty intense and he was jacked up. ahhh....good times as a kid.
Supossedly andre the giant was very rigid and not doing well by the late 80's early 90's ,stuck to same formula cause he couldn't move,U.W. and ANDRE had match and warrior was going crazy closethlining him and andre got pissed for real and through him around off script..
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Anyone notice how red he looked?
If you've seen his Youtube videos, he's very red in the face in many of those videos as well.
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Supossedly andre the giant was very rigid and not doing well by the late 80's early 90's ,stuck to same formula cause he couldn't move,U.W. and ANDRE had match and warrior was going crazy closethlining him and andre got pissed for real and through him around off script..
There's a youtube video of that match. Warrior was going for the splash move on a fallen Andre. Andre went off script and stuck his knees up and legit hurt Warrior.
Warrior always wrestled stiff and nearly always pissed off his opponents. His best matches were always against someone who had to carry him throughout a match. Rude and Savage always made Warrior look good in the ring. Rude was a legit tough guy and was known as someone you didn't mess with backstage. I'm sure he had to refrain from beating the piss out of Warrior on several occassions.
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There's a youtube video of that match. Warrior was going for the splash move on a fallen Andre. Andre went off script and stuck his knees up and legit hurt Warrior.
Warrior always wrestled stiff and nearly always pissed off his opponents. His best matches were always against someone who had to carry him throughout a match. Rude and Savage always made Warrior look good in the ring. Rude was a legit tough guy and was known as someone you didn't mess with backstage. I'm sure he had to refrain from beating the piss out of Warrior on several occassions.
RUDE AND HIM HAD GREAT FEUD..I CAN SEE HIM PISSING OFF UNDERTAKER.HE WAS REAL LIFE SAME PERSON,JUICED UP,OPINIONATED,INTENSE GUY,HE HAS THAT LOOK,LIKE A GOOD SHREWD SALESPERSON WHO COULD SELL YOU THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE .
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Ultimate Warrior was an electrifying personality, but he was a terrible wrestler. Other than his signature 'body press' finishing move, all he did was run around the ring doing elbow smashes and clotheslines. No technical 'wrestling' of any kind, ever.
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IN tag teams especially he was uncomfortable to watch he would just go up and down the apron SHAKING OR PUMPING FISTS,JUMPING UP AND DOWN,then he gets tagged goes nuts 2 clothelines,gorilla press,gets the win.
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Ultimate Warrior was an electrifying personality, but he was a terrible wrestler. Other than his signature 'body press' finishing move, all he did was run around the ring doing elbow smashes and clotheslines. No technical 'wrestling' of any kind, ever.
And Hogan was any better?
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And Hogan was any better?
LOL,,,YEAH FAMOUS LEG DROP,,1...2....3....
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And Hogan was any better?
Yes...Hogan was better. Hogan had the skill set to perform technical moves if he chose to. Warrior refused to improve his skill set in the ring and just stuck to what worked for him. Can't blame him for that since he was a money making machine for Vince.
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Yes...Hogan was better. Hogan had the skill set to perform technical moves if he chose to. Warrior refused to improve his skill set in the ring and just stuck to what worked for him. Can't blame him for that since he was a money making machine for Vince.
Hogan also knew how to pace the match and draw the crowd to the finger pointing or wave when was in sleeper hold or a hold to then frency the crowd
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I used to love it when warrior would press the jobbers up over his head and throw them over the top rope to the floor.
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Paul Roma probably had the best genetics for looking amazing if he juiced as hard as some of the others. Word is that he was very lazy in the gym. I saw him train once and he just took a fixed 40 barbell and did about 6-7 sets of bicep curls for 15 reps and then left the gym. Gifted genes, but no work ethic.
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Paul Roma probably had the best genetics for looking amazing if he juiced as hard as some of the others. Word is that he was very lazy in the gym. I saw him train once and he just took a fixed 40 barbell and did about 6-7 sets of bicep curls for 15 reps and then left the gym. Gifted genes, but no work ethic.
he looked awesome funny his nephew is a pro bber and he could have maybe been pro..
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atlas
rocky Johnson
putski'at times'
snuka'mid 70's early 80's sick build
rude
luger
DINO BRAVO 'MONSTER'
WARLORD
Kerry von erich
jim powers
paul roma 'great build'
don muraco 'later version'crazy vascularity.
You forgot Dick the Bulldog Brower in this list NJ.
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DBOL BLOAT/TEST
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Ultimate Warrior was an electrifying personality, but he was a terrible wrestler. Other than his signature 'body press' finishing move, all he did was run around the ring doing elbow smashes and clotheslines. No technical 'wrestling' of any kind, ever.
Ultimate Warrior was the best Pro-Wrestler that ever lived.
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Gold dust is a more technical wrestler than the Ultimate Warrior.
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And Hogan was any better?
Hogan could actually wrestle. And earlier in his career he actually did wrestle. It wasn't just ridiculous leg drops that he did in his peak.
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Zepellin fan?
Good one, and yes, quite....
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Who's the tosser who suggests Warrior didn't have wheels?
The dude definitely had wheels. And good ones.
I recall reading an article during his peak where he said he never squats heavier than 500 pounds, but does that weight for sets and reps. No one who can do that has small legs.
Warrior was an extremely powerful man.
I missed meeting him in the very late '80s when he had come to my gym to train, and I arrived, according to my buds, only a few minutes after he had left. DAMN. But they told me he was strong as all hell, behind-the-neck pressing 275 for multiple reps and sets, like it was nothing.
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Supossedly andre the giant was very rigid and not doing well by the late 80's early 90's ,stuck to same formula cause he couldn't move,U.W. and ANDRE had match and warrior was going crazy closethlining him and andre got pissed for real and through him around off script..
Bobby Heenan tells an Andre-Warrior story on the "Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD". It's a hoot.
I remember he had a match with Andre, and it almost ended his career. Andre used to like to take a clothesline. And he told him in the dressing room; he told him, "I'm going to swing with the clothesline; you duck. And, I'm going to hit the ropes and take two steps off. And then, hit me with the clothesline and I'm going to tie myself into the ropes!" And, Andre liked to do that spot.
So, Andre missed him with the clothesline. As soon as Andre turned around, he was there, 150 miles an hour......BANG!!!! (Heenan emulates Warrior hitting Andre with a hard clothesline, before Andre was ready) And, I heard Boss go "MMMMMMMMMM!!!!" Something's going to happen here. Next night, same thing happens, 200 miles per hour....BANG!!!!! (Warrior hits Andre too hard with a clothesline again, before Andre is ready)......"MMMMMMMMM!!!"
Third night, 338 miles per hour.....And just as he gets there, Andre goes..... (Heenan sticks out his arm with his fist clenched, emulating Andre's doing the same in the ring against Warrior) and hits the Warrior right between the eyes and cracked his paint. We're talking Earl Scheib job, here. His knees buckled; he grabbed onto the ropes (Heenan imitates a dizzy Ultimate Warrior, fumbling to get to ropes)...didn't really know where he was.
Next night, here comes the Warrior: (Heenan uses his fingers to describe Warrior cautiously running toward Andre and hitting him with a somewhat soft clothesline) Dink-da-dink-da-dink......BINK!!!! Andre looks at me and says, "He'll learn!!!" Andre just put his hand up and stopped him. He would stand on his hair; he would do all sorts of things to him. Andre just didn't like the guy, either.
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IN tag teams especially he was uncomfortable to watch he would just go up and down the apron SHAKING OR PUMPING FISTS,JUMPING UP AND DOWN,then he gets tagged goes nuts 2 clothelines,gorilla press,gets the win.
Not a bad way to make a living if you ask me 8)
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Warrior fucking rules.
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Good one, and yes, quite....
Nice guitar playing ,right there! Les Paul to the bitter end!
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_qoRfmcZY8
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Warrior fucking rules.
That was an awesome video!
20 rep squats in your street clothes because fuck you self
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WWE execs and producers are rushing to put together two special tributes for Ultimate Warrior ... the first of which is just a few days away.
WWE sources tell TMZ ... next week's "Monday Night RAW" episode will memorialize Warrior with much more than the standard blank screen R.I.P. given to most wrestlers who pass away.
We're told producers are still working out details of the show -- but it will most likely showcase U.W.'s most memorable moments ... as well his final appearance in the ring last week in New Orleans
The WWE is also putting together a special that will air on its network next Wednesday, tentatively titled, "Warrior: The Ultimate Legend."
Feel the power.
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Warrior fucking rules.
The 2nd half of that video was great.
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A meat eater it took him down.
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A meat eater it took him down.
I'd put that way down the list. My thought is a combo of all of these:
1. Maybe he hadn't had a physical in a while, and didn't know he was at risk
2. Toll of roids
3. A long, emotional weekend at WM
4. His general intense nature
Regardless, he leaves behind a wife and kids at just 54. Very sad. But he lived life with passion. He wrapped up issues with WWE and left this earth with no regrets ... other than leaving his kids behind ... if that thought was able to enter his head before he passed on to the other side.
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I'd put that way down the list. My thought is a combo of all of these:
1. Maybe he hadn't had a physical in a while, and didn't know he was at risk
2. Toll of roids
3. A long, emotional weekend at WM
4. His general intense nature
Regardless, he leaves behind a wife and kids at just 54. Very sad. But he lived life with passion. He wrapped up issues with WWE and left this earth with no regrets ... other than leaving his kids behind ... if that thought was able to enter his head before he passed on to the other side.
Good post.
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you're welcome...
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Hahaha
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I'd put that way down the list. My thought is a combo of all of these:
1. Maybe he hadn't had a physical in a while, and didn't know he was at risk
2. Toll of roids
3. A long, emotional weekend at WM
4. His general intense nature
Regardless, he leaves behind a wife and kids at just 54. Very sad. But he lived life with passion. He wrapped up issues with WWE and left this earth with no regrets ... other than leaving his kids behind ... if that thought was able to enter his head before he passed on to the other side.
Genetics should be first, if it is true that is dad died at 52 and his grandfather in late 50's.
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fuckin great...lol
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Hate to bring this up.... But re watch his hall of fame speech n observe the number of times he has to swipe his nose..common gesture of certain u know what's.....hidden abuser....?
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Hate to bring this up.... But re watch his hall of fame speech n observe the number of times he has to swipe his nose..common gesture of certain u know what's.....hidden abuser....?
He was in New Orleans , place stinks of piss
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bizarre end to that video,,if his waist was much smaller he would have looked better ,it was wide and rounded,ripped tho ,,but he was on a lot over long periods and maybe clean and jacked back up again last few yrs..
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He was in New Orleans , place stinks of piss
Was it at the Super Dome? I heard they're still finding Hebrew turds from the Hurricane Katrina days.
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Was it at the Super Dome? I heard they're still finding Hebrew turds from the Hurricane Katrina days.
Yes it was at the Super Dome. Mercedes redid the dome.
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bizarre end to that video,,if his waist was much smaller he would have looked better ,it was wide and rounded,ripped tho ,,but he was on a lot over long periods and maybe clean and jacked back up again last few yrs..
well if it wasn't clear already grown men who remain avid wrestling fans are schmoes. Still love the warrior and think it's too bad he had to resort to this shit.
also epic intensity! the guy lived life to the fullest.
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*cough* Benoit *cough*
Seriously though, where are the two Bam Bams and Yokozuna?!
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What about Doink the Clown? Or Val Venus?
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finishing up workout today and getting drink water and see desk girl talking to big black guy ,i glimpsed said oh shit to my self got water and went up to this former great and said glad to meet you MR USA TONY ATLAS.60yrs old ,tall about 5'11 to6'0 maybe 6'1 ,,really nice man talked about ultimate warrior and about rocky johnson,told him his era wrestling was good time/memories.he was doing signing in area..
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What about Doink the Clown? Or Val Venus?
Val Venis isn't dead.
They forgot Test though. Dude had a great build and ploughed both Stacey Kiebler and Kelly Kelly :P
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Val Venis isn't dead.
They forgot Test though. Dude had a great build and ploughed both Stacey Kiebler and Kelly Kelly :P
I didnt mean dead. Just talking about past wrestlers.
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1. Maybe he hadn't had a physical in a while, and didn't know he was at risk
Standard physicals rarely catch pending heart attacks. There have been countless people who have passed physicals just days before a fatal heart attack or stroke.
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Old, but a must watch for wrestling fans.
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The Ultimate Warrior died from a massive heart attack, according to the medical examiner who conducted his autopsy last week.
Officials sai that the cause of death was determined to be "Atherosclerotic/Arteriosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease" or heart disease.
The medical examiner classified Warrior's death as natural, meaning neither drugs nor alcohol were directly involved.
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I'm sure they will do a memorial thingy for him tonight on RAW.
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bizarre end to that video,,if his waist was much smaller he would have looked better ,it was wide and rounded,ripped tho ,,but he was on a lot over long periods and maybe clean and jacked back up again last few yrs..
Warrior looks pretty well much stil full of TRT in this vid, I dont recommend TRT to anyone with any type of heart issue, it just accelerates premature death, I havent dont TRT in a long time now and did cycle it when i did, It certainly always effected aerobic capacity negatively.
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Warrior looks pretty well much stil full of TRT in this vid, I dont recommend TRT to anyone with any type of heart issue, it just accelerates premature death, I havent dont TRT in a long time now and did cycle it when i did, It certainly always effected aerobic capacity negatively.
So are you suggesting that excessive amounts of testosterone effect the body negatively at advanced ages?
I absolutely think that the body knows its not natural to have that much test running through it in your late 40's and 50's.
Then again, look at guys like Arnold, Sly, and even our own Wes.
You know what they say, when its your time........
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So are you suggesting that excessive amounts of testosterone effect the body negatively at advanced ages?
I absolutely think that the body knows its not natural to have that much test running through it in your late 40's and 50's.
Then again, look at guys like Arnold, Sly, and even our own Wes.
You know what they say, when its your time........
What would you know about it, Porky?
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What would you know about it, Porky?
hi me, how am I today?
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He looked better when he first got out of wrestling and went off (or at least used less)
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The last few years he was always red in the face which can indicate hypertension, a risk factor for a heart attack
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So are you suggesting that excessive amounts of testosterone effect the body negatively at advanced ages?
I absolutely think that the body knows its not natural to have that much test running through it in your late 40's and 50's.
Then again, look at guys like Arnold, Sly, and even our own Wes.
You know what they say, when its your time........
What im saying I stopped, I never used large dosages in my younger competitive days, ,never took more than TRT after retiring and even then did so periodically, but as I have watched others all be it people who have taken much larger dosages than myself drop, I have adopted the view that I no longer want even TRT, it gives my natural body a false sense of recovery, it sucks especially the first 6 months, but after a while you realise that as you age if you want to continue to age not die prematurely you need to listen to your body and have regular checks, do I miss the TRT hell yes, and I will forever be tempted as only training natural can you realise how much 100mg of test a week does. But i have made my mind up and my aerobic capacity is much greater TRT free, its a personal thing and opinion but one im happy to share. The thickening of the blood is something all TRT users need to manage effectively, to me warriors body much like Youngbloods looks starved of oxygen, red purple look is not healthy.
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What im saying I stopped, I never used large dosages in my younger competitive days, ,never took more than TRT after retiring and even then did so periodically, but as I have watched others all be it people who have taken much larger dosages than myself drop, I have adopted the view that I no longer want even TRT, it gives my natural body a false sense of recovery, it sucks especially the first 6 months, but after a while you realise that as you age if you want to continue to age not die prematurely you need to listen to your body and have regular checks, do I miss the TRT hell yes, and I will forever be tempted as only training natural can you realise how much 100mg of test a week does. But i have made my mind up and my aerobic capacity is much greater TRT free, its a personal thing and opinion but one im happy to share. The thickening of the blood is something all TRT users need to manage effectively, to me warriors body much like Youngbloods looks starved of oxygen, red purple look is not healthy.
It's nice to see a rational person on here.
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dirty laundry
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In Warriors case it could have just been heart attack that would've happened anyway. Obviously his heavy steroid use contributed and he was on high doses for a prolonged period of time. But unlike many other cases of wrestlers dying young they are nearly always heavy steroids users AND use other drugs and alcohol (esp prescription painkillers and stimulants). They are very often very overweight too (muscle or fat) and have personal problems relating to addiction.
What was surprising about Warrior though was the reports on him that he was very health conscious throughout his career i.e. no recreational drugs, alcohol, fast food etc. Apparently at catering backstage he would eat grilled chicken and rice and then crumble a single chocolate cookie in his hand, sniff the crumbs to inhale the aroma and throw it in the bin. This was all he needed to "taste" sugary food. He also had a relatively short career meaning the 300 plus days on the road and bumping in the ring would not have affected him as much as many others.
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In Warriors case it could have just been heart attack that would've happened anyway. Obviously his heavy steroid use contributed and he was on high doses for a prolonged period of time. But unlike many other cases of wrestlers dying young they are nearly always heavy steroids users AND use other drugs and alcohol (esp prescription painkillers and stimulants). They are very often very overweight too (muscle or fat) and have personal problems relating to addiction.
What was surprising about Warrior though was the reports on him that he was very health conscious throughout his career i.e. no recreational drugs, alcohol, fast food etc. Apparently at catering backstage he would eat grilled chicken and rice and then crumble a single chocolate cookie in his hand, sniff the crumbs to inhale the aroma and throw it in the bin. This was all he needed to "taste" sugary food. He also had a relatively short career meaning the 300 plus days on the road and bumping in the ring would not have affected him as much as many others.
Pretty interesting. It definitely shows the importance of genetics since his father died at 57 and his grandfather at 52 due to heart problems.
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http://www.wwe.com/videos/playlists/sting-comments-on-ultimate-warrior
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In Warriors case it could have just been heart attack that would've happened anyway. Obviously his heavy steroid use contributed and he was on high doses for a prolonged period of time. But unlike many other cases of wrestlers dying young they are nearly always heavy steroids users AND use other drugs and alcohol (esp prescription painkillers and stimulants). They are very often very overweight too (muscle or fat) and have personal problems relating to addiction.
What was surprising about Warrior though was the reports on him that he was very health conscious throughout his career i.e. no recreational drugs, alcohol, fast food etc. Apparently at catering backstage he would eat grilled chicken and rice and then crumble a single chocolate cookie in his hand, sniff the crumbs to inhale the aroma and throw it in the bin. This was all he needed to "taste" sugary food. He also had a relatively short career meaning the 300 plus days on the road and bumping in the ring would not have affected him as much as many others.
This is why I always eat the cake now. When I was young and dumb I would pass on the cake.
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Apparently at catering backstage he would eat grilled chicken and rice and then crumble a single chocolate cookie in his hand, sniff the crumbs to inhale the aroma and throw it in the bin. This was all he needed to "taste" sugary food. He also had a relatively short career meaning the 300 plus days on the road and bumping in the ring would not have affected him as much as many others.
Plain and simple why he was the Ultimate Warrior!
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The final "The Ultimate legend" mini documentary here..
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Watched this a few times.
What I don't like is that so many of the people talking on here praising him are the same ones that bashed him on the first DVD.
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Watched this a few times.
What I don't like is that so many of the people talking on here praising him are the same ones that bashed him on the first DVD.
Tunes suddenly change when people pass. Not always, but often. Why? Not sure. Many people exit this life as scumbags.
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Great documentary.
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Holy fuck. PROPHESIED !!!! My condolences to all you fucking idiot wrestling fans.
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Epic Tribute Reboot for my Favorite Fallen Wrassler of all time, The Ultimate Warrior. Gone but not forgotten. Snap into a slimjim.
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Tunes suddenly change when people pass. Not always, but often. Why? Not sure. Many people exit this life as scumbags.
I can understand to an extent the criticism of Warrior a few years back.
He himself was very critical of others involved with the wrestling business. I remember him calling Droz (a wrestler who was legit paralyzed from the neck down and was employed as a presenter briefly by WWE) "the cripple" in a statement he released. He was very difficult to work with in his prime and the main reason for him falling out with the WWF was because he held the company to ransom for a large sum of money, saying he would not turn up for an advertised PPV main event match unless his demands were met.
Just because he recently made peace and passed away doesn't take away the fact that he did do some very shitty things in his past.
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I can understand to an extent the criticism of Warrior a few years back.
He himself was very critical of others involved with the wrestling business. I remember him calling Droz (a wrestler who was legit paralyzed from the neck down and was employed as a presenter briefly by WWE) "the cripple" in a statement he released. He was very difficult to work with in his prime and the main reason for him falling out with the WWF was because he held the company to ransom for a large sum of money, saying he would not turn up for an advertised PPV main event match unless his demands were met.
Just because he recently made peace and passed away doesn't take away the fact that he didn't do some very shitty things in his past.
I get what you're saying, but I think although some do go to their graves as scumbags, I do believe that others do make amends for their wrongdoings, do seek forgiveness from those they've wronged, do give out forgiveness to others that have wronged them and do allow the past to be the past.
I saw a lot of that in that documentary and of course we can speculate the amount of WWE spin involved, but I've seen the years of angry videos against Hogan and I saw the reconciliation between the two of them on camera. It may not have been complete in that moment, but it was certainly there. I believe it was absolutely there between UW and the McMahons.
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Thanks for the link to this excellent documentary.
Great Man.
RIP
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When you think about how much money a huge pay per view would bring in to the company let alone the packed stadium tickets and shit tons of merchandise sold I don't think asking for 500 k is that damn much lol...look at how much that goofy little Hebrew Mayweather makes for a fight...Hell I've never even seen that little punk get a black eye..
If the wwf made 10 mil off of his main event...500 k is not too much to ask...Hell Cena has a net worth of fucking 20million..He should be thanking warrior for making vince pay the damn talent.
Got guys sacrificing their health and risking paralyzation daily..
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Warrior lived his life like a boss.
Didn't kiss anyone's ass.
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When you think about how much money a huge pay per view would bring in to the company let alone the packed stadium tickets and shit tons of merchandise sold I don't think asking for 500 k is that damn much lol...look at how much that goofy little Hebrew Mayweather makes for a fight...Hell I've never even seen that little punk get a black eye..
If the wwf made 10 mil off of his main event...500 k is not too much to ask...Hell Cena has a net worth of fucking 20million..He should be thanking warrior for making vince pay the damn talent.
Got guys sacrificing their health and risking paralyzation daily..
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They should've given Warrior what he was worth
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Fact is, many of Warrior's wrestling peers are jealous that he had the balls to not bend over and allow himself to be used.
And very few of his colleagues would have had the guts to confront him backstage or wherever.
Guy was a beast. No sane human would desire a guy like Warrior to explode all over him in a fit of rage.
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Agree
They should've given Warrior what he was worth
Really? Half a million for a 20 minute midcard match at Wrestlemania 7? No wrestler in history pulled that type of money for that type of match.
He also wanted private travel and accommodation, a larger percentage of his merchandise sales, to be the highest paid wrestler in the company and to work a limited number of days per year. Oh and to have creative control over his character. And if his demands were not met he would not show up for Summerslam 91, when he had been advertised in the main event for months. Vince gave in and paid his money for WM 7 and after Summerslam he suspended him.
Warrior was truly a man who lived by his own code and rules. You have to respect him for that. Of all the wrestlers who have fallen out with Vince over the years (there have been MANY) Warrior was one of the few who refused to give in and "come crawling back" (Macho Man and Bret Hart come to mind as others who stood up to Vince and didn't let him use them up).
But you also can not blame those who criticised and severed ties with Warrior in the past. Like I said, he went down in my estimation when he referred to Droz, who was paralysed for life in the ring, as "the cripple". Vince McMahon is not a man who is going to let somebody run all over him and tell him what to do. It was a clash of two egomaniacs and as far as prowrestling goes, Vince is the one who always has the final say whether you like it or not.
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Really? Half a million for a 20 minute midcard match at Wrestlemania 7? No wrestler in history pulled that type of money for that type of match.
He also wanted private travel and accommodation, a larger percentage of his merchandise sales, to be the highest paid wrestler in the company and to work a limited number of days per year. Oh and to have creative control over his character. And if his demands were not met he would not show up for Summerslam 91, when he had been advertised in the main event for months. Vince gave in and paid his money for WM 7 and after Summerslam he suspended him.
Warrior was truly a man who lived by his own code and rules. You have to respect him for that. Of all the wrestlers who have fallen out with Vince over the years (there have been MANY) Warrior was one of the few who refused to give in and "come crawling back" (Macho Man and Bret Hart come to mind as others who stood up to Vince and didn't let him use them up).
But you also can not blame those who criticised and severed ties with Warrior in the past. Like I said, he went down in my estimation when he referred to Droz, who was paralysed for life in the ring, as "the cripple". Vince McMahon is not a man who is going to let somebody run all over him and tell him what to do. It was a clash of two egomaniacs and as far as prowrestling goes, Vince is the one who always has the final say whether you like it or not.
Vince should have listened to Warrior.
He would have made that back , and a boatload more money in short succession.
Bad investment not keeping Warrior during that time.
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Vince should have listened to Warrior.
He would have made that back , and a boatload more money in short succession.
Bad investment not keeping Warrior during that time.
No, Warrior did come back in 1992. And then the steroid scandal hit. Warrior was fired for failing a drugs test and many of the big 80's steroid guys disappeared from WWF. Warrior and British Bulldog were made scapegoats (apparently McMahon singled them out because they were using growth hormone). But it was truly the end of that era. Hogan shrunk and left for WCW. Hogan, Warrior, Bulldog, Warlord, Legion of Doom, Texas Tornado, Sid Justice all were released during 92 as part of WWF trying to change its image when it came under scrutiny for steroid use. That's when the Bret Harts and Shawn Michaels started to replace the muscle guys from the 80s.
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Really? Half a million for a 20 minute midcard match at Wrestlemania 7? No wrestler in history pulled that type of money for that type of match.
He also wanted private travel and accommodation, a larger percentage of his merchandise sales, to be the highest paid wrestler in the company and to work a limited number of days per year. Oh and to have creative control over his character. And if his demands were not met he would not show up for Summerslam 91, when he had been advertised in the main event for months. Vince gave in and paid his money for WM 7 and after Summerslam he suspended him.
Warrior was truly a man who lived by his own code and rules. You have to respect him for that. Of all the wrestlers who have fallen out with Vince over the years (there have been MANY) Warrior was one of the few who refused to give in and "come crawling back" (Macho Man and Bret Hart come to mind as others who stood up to Vince and didn't let him use them up).
But you also can not blame those who criticised and severed ties with Warrior in the past. Like I said, he went down in my estimation when he referred to Droz, who was paralysed for life in the ring, as "the cripple". Vince McMahon is not a man who is going to let somebody run all over him and tell him what to do. It was a clash of two egomaniacs and as far as prowrestling goes, Vince is the one who always has the final say whether you like it or not.
The only thing I can really say to this end is this (tl;dr by the way) :
I am not a wrasslin fan and never really was, I would have sleepovers with my cousin when were like 4-6 years old and he was big on wrasslin so we would watch the big shows on those weekends...
My point is this...From those few memories I have of wrasslin I only remember even being remotely interested when The Ultimate Warrior came sprinting out and flipping the fuck out in promos...
Listen to a Warrior promo..He is basically a 5 year old on a shit load of Mountain Dew just saying words lol...It's fucking AWESOME LOL!!
There were the gimmicks, heavy on the infighting, story lines, drama - that played to the skinny fat, balding, middle aged men (sad) that were all about that shit, obsessed....And then there were gimmicks that actually played to (in my opinion) the target audience...4-10 year old boys...lol.
Warrior was what, if I was to be a pro wrassler, at age 5 I would have acted just like Warrior lol, no real technical skill, just sprint in there and fucking body slam someone and pound my chest, then run around more and get the fuck out of there lol. That is why he is SO popular...Little kids took one look at him and FORCED their dad to take them to the events, buy the t-shirts, buy the hotdogs and cokes, and buy the pay-per-views at all the sleepovers..And that is why it is us 25 year olds talking about his death, because we were 6 when he was king lol...
In a way he was a big indicator of the "ADHD" type society that started to evolve out of the early 90s. Where now all the 20-30 year olds I know have the attention span of a meth'd out 5 year old, everything has to be NOW NOW NOW and ACTION ACTION ACTION or we will just flip to another website, or another show, or whatever for that constant action. Warrior was the Human Incarnation of "ADHD" ROFL..
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Well put. For us kids, watching the story line and bs wasnt nearly as cool and the Warrior running down the flight and destroying his opponent then to disappear and not be heard of again until the next time your parents let you watch a little TV.
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Well put. For us kids, watching the story line and bs wasnt nearly as cool and the Warrior running down the flight and destroying his opponent then to disappear and not be heard of again until the next time your parents let you watch a little TV.
ROFL EXACTLY!
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Agree
They should've given Warrior what he was worth
Anything is only worth as much as you can get for it. If the best price you can get is less than you feel whatever you have is worth, then what you have isn't worth as much as you believe it is.
If UW thought he deserved a higher salary, then he should have gone and worked for someone else who was willing to pay it. The simple fact is he couldn't find that, which relegated his perceived self worth to the level of delusional.
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