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considering i have done it years upon years and to this day i place consistently top 10 o,,i know what it takes to get there
i mentioned the word combo and that means diet had a big part in her final presentation,,but to tell me i give too much credit to drugs will be wrong,,
1. maintaining of muscle during prep is done by the use of drugs,,with out them she would lose a lot of muscle and end up looking like a girl that starved herself
2. as a female getting down to any lower than 10% bodyfat and losing the stubborn adipose baby fat that every female has due to high estrogen levels,,will demand a good amount of androgens/anabolics NOT ONLY DIETand a good anti aromatase,,this girl used them all and no she is not using only nolvadex
3. when she did get to very low bf% she had to use the right androgens inorder to dramatically increase density and hardness of the muscle and for that she used products such as winstrol and masteron ,,now im not saying she used the doses i use,,,but she used var,,masteron,,winstrol,,primo to some degree,,woudnt be surprized if she used low dose halo like plenty of female competitors
4. as i said before diet to the t is a must for the drugs to make their magic especially during prep when trying to get down to very low bf%
5. duretics were used
6. there is a reason you dont see women looking like that during the 70s and 80s,,reason is?.........you got that right DRUGS,,women got brave,,got more freedom,,,saw what drugs made us look like as bodybuilders and copy cat,,copy cat to the t,,,only reason they are smaller is because they are females to begin with and not males.
in her case she is lucky to have ok face and she doesnt look as manly as she could have been otherwize,,
the truth is written on the walls loud and clear and its sad i need to bring it to this board
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You are obviously not a very educated person are you............Oh I'm sorry I forgot everyone is an expert 
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You maybe able to pursuade any weak minded individual that I used your listed substances to hold onto muscle, but your obvious jelousy and excuse for your own lack of natural condition falls out of the ball park.
I am the first to admit that I would much prefer to lose some muscle on a diet (which I do) than to use your crazy choices of drugs. Halo, Masteron (are you crazy 
) primo and whatever var...... is, are substances I did not see in my diary. On my last diet, my "natural" nutritionist advised I use high amounts of MCT's, Flax and CLA along with a high sodium diet to keep my strength and my body as anticatabolic as possible. 
Let me tell you something....... If I had used an illegal duretic, my already low fluid levels would have flattened my muscle (which I believe should have been fuller) to a point that I would have appeared to hold fluid. I see the mistake being made by pro's time and time again. If you are fairly dry and fat free a couple of days out, why take the risk. The result = looks great the day before, flat and watery on the day. There is only so much the liver and kidney can flush before retaining.
Sorry you brought yourself to the board
