Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Topic started by: Disgusted on September 19, 2008, 02:08:07 PM
-
I never really liked using diuretics and I have many times gotten competitors very dry without using them. In fact, I will go as far as to say that they are definitely are not needed. The problem is that many guys who think that they are ready to step on stage have too much fat on them and they will use diuretics to help them out. Using diuretics does seem to help shrink the fat cells to a degree. I have seen pics of certain top guys (one in particular) who are def not ready, but after taking 5 to 10 bumex look look extremely different. Diuretics at times can help clean things up so to speak.
If someone comes to me say 2 weeks out and is ripped then there is no need for them. Take King for example. He used NO diuretics and as you can see from the pics that we posted he was very dry the last 3 days before the show. It was crazy because he was so ripped that you could actually see the water under his skin change from hour to hour. One minute he was dry as a bone and the next he was holding someone water. These fluctuations are very normal and you would never be able to see this unless you are extremely low in bodyfat. I actually was glad to see this happen as it told me that all was well with King's conditioning. The trick was to make sure that he was bone dry for the prejudging.
When someone is that dry is sometimes hard to get a pump and too see any type of vascularity. Don't get me wrong, when someone is fully hydrated you should be pretty hard full and dry, but it's never enough right? ;D Well, this is where the magic powder comes in. I first experimented with it on King. He started taking it about one month out right before he worked out. The good news was that he got more out of it than planned. Not only did he get a enormous pump, but he dried out to the point where he would stop sweating. It seemed that the powder actually was keeping water inside his muscles where it was needed. He also got very vascular when taking it. On average this effect lasted I would say about 90 min. So not only is the magic powder good for preworkout it is also good for right before stepping on stage. I would never recommend taking this with any kind of diuretic. You would actually be working against the effect of the powder. Anyway, just a little bit about the magic powder since I know that some of you guys wanted to know. If all goes well I plan on putting it on the market in the very near future.
-
nice :D
-
The begining of the end for all the so called "get you pumped up" products out there... 'NUFF SAID!
-
Does it contain something unique, something not on the bodybuilding supplement market?
-
Interesting, I would love to know more about the "magic powder" as you call it.
Not taking away anything from Shari but great job with his prep he looked awesome at the AC. Top notch conditioning...
-
I expected to see a pouch of Trenbolone powder. :D
-
ill tell u guys how it works at about 1pm tomorrow :)
-
I expected to see a pouch of Trenbolone powder. :D
LOL
-
Brutal honesty
-
Disgusted is taking pre-orders now, because supplies are expected to run out very fast, so reserve yours while you still can.
10000x more effective than other powders.
-
10000x more effective than other powders.
Except for trenbolone.
-
Is it a glycerol / glycerine based product?
-
Except for trenbolone.
;D
-
im tired, but ill tell u guys this.......
It worked AMAZINGLY! And tasted pretty damn good! I had vascularity everywhere, and usually i have about as much vascularity as our current Mr.Olympia, so id say the "magic powder" works :) ;D
-
That's what we wanted to hear. Here are some questions:
1. How fast did you feel the "sensation" all over your body after you drank the powder?
2. BE HONEST... On a scale of 1 - 10 how pumped up did you get after 15 minutes of pumping up? (Let's keep in mind that you had ZERO CARBS. IN YOUR BODY)
3. On a scale of 1 - 10 how vascular did you get?
4. Did you spill over while going through pre-judging?
5. Was this an NPC contest? If not what organization was it?
Please be honest.. This is the kind of feeedback we have been waiting for. BTW... Congrats from the King!
-
That's what we wanted to hear. Here are some questions:
1. How fast did you feel the "sensation" all over your body after you drank the powder? I didnt get much of a sensation type feeling, but I just sitting down relaxing after taking it, so maybe thats why.
2. BE HONEST... On a scale of 1 - 10 how pumped up did you get after 15 minutes of pumping up? (Let's keep in mind that you had ZERO CARBS. IN YOUR BODY) Honestly, I got pretty damn pumped up, everything was full and hard. Much better pump than ive gotten taking ANYTHING else!
3. On a scale of 1 - 10 how vascular did you get? Very vascular, I had veins running through my chest, thighs, and everything, it was kinda nice even though it was only for a short period of time.
4. Did you spill over while going through pre-judging? Nope not at all.
5. Was this an NPC contest? If not what organization was it? No it was an ABA contest, its a natural organization. Very small show, only 25 male competitors total. And only 3 in my class.
Please be honest.. This is the kind of feeedback we have been waiting for. BTW... Congrats from the King!
-
VERY GOOD!!! The most important factor here was the "no spilling over". You pumped up and got harder and more vascular and did not spill over on stage with sweat. Jim, it's time to go to the next step. Call me so we can go over everything. Great job Flex, next time you will step on an NPC stage and take some heads.
-
1). Why would you spill over if you had zero carbs?
2). Why wouldn't you get a pump if you spent 15 minutes "pumping up".
3). Any number of simple things (such as niacin) can increase vascularity.
-
VERY GOOD!!! The most important factor here was the "no spilling over". You pumped up and got harder and more vascular and did not spill over on stage with sweat. Jim, it's time to go to the next step. Call me so we can go over everything. Great job Flex, next time you will step on an NPC stage and take some heads.
King, I think im going to need some "assistance" if i want to step on an NPC stage, gotta make a decision if i want to do that or not though.
But i got a LOT of room to fill out on my frame like i know i can put a on ton of size on, i just need to go about it the right way!
-
King, I think im going to need some "assistance" if i want to step on an NPC stage, gotta make a decision if i want to do that or not though.
But i got a LOT of room to fill out on my frame like i know i can put a on ton of size on, i just need to go about it the right way!
Flexington, are you basically saying you want to take that next step and further your bodybuilding aspirations?
That's very inspirational, good luck my friend!
-
Hey King,
do u care to share what these bumble bee's, black magic, and long factor 3 are. I know they are a staple of a certain guru's plan, and without sharing his name on here, can u just say what are in these compounds?
-
No Flex... Unlike some people I don't talk about other peoples dirty laundry. I just had to take care of Sean here because in his mind he and his mentor are head over heals above the rest of the crowd and in reality they are just sheep just like the rest. I hate negative people that try to put down others when they just happen to do something right. Worry about yourself and let me worry about what's mine. This haterade shit is getting out of control. Flex you don't need juice to compete in the NPC you just need more time and you will get there... I promise you.
-
No Flex... Unlike some people I don't talk about other peoples dirty laundry. I just had to take care of Sean here because in his mind he and his mentor are head over heals above the rest of the crowd and in reality they are just sheep just like the rest. I hate negative people that try to put down others when they just happen to do something right. Worry about yourself and let me worry about what's mine. This haterade shit is getting out of control. Flex you don't need juice to compete in the NPC you just need more time and you will get there... I promise you.
yea i do need more time, im 25, and im just now since working with jim getting my diet in order. so the road to mass BEGINS NOW! :)
-
1). Why would you spill over if you had zero carbs?
2). Why wouldn't you get a pump if you spent 15 minutes "pumping up".
3). Any number of simple things (such as niacin) can increase vascularity.
Are these the questions that you are reffering too, I mean the one's that you wanted me to answer? NOt sure since they are not directed at me specifically. If so I don't know enough about what you are refferring to concerning number 1 and 2. As far as the third one I personally have never witnesses anyone who has used niacin get any positive vascular effects from it. You mention that you know of a number of other simple things, care to share what these are?
-
The questions were in response to this post:
As for the simple things, d-ribose (for one) comes to mind.
I think that Glen would answer that question best. King was comparing the pump WITH the powder as opposed to getting a pump without it.
-
No no no my friends. This thread will not go the way of the nerds. My point has been made and that's the end of that. There is something special coming and every single one of you Iron Warriors out there will get that edge you have been waiting for. Flexington was chosen for a specific reason and that was because he is 100% natural and that's what Jim needed to take things to the next level. I also played the part of the "experiment" but I am, well to be kind, not so natural ;)... And it worked like an atomic bomb for me.. Just amazing results. I'm positive that more info. will be released by Jim very soon.
-
What's the sodium content of the powder? Pretty high I bet. :D
-
What's the sodium content of the powder? Pretty high I bet. :D
Here are the ingredients:
half a cup of salt
5 packs of orange crystal light
I am a genius ;D
-
Here are the ingredients:
half a cup of salt
5 packs of orange crystal light
I am a genius ;D
;D
-
I had some goood magic powder over the weekend, bout 40 bucks a gram though ;D
-
Anyway.... Jim, if you are planning to bring your product to market I sincerely wish you the best of luck. While I normally wouldn't question your business sense or anything, I think I'd have to if you're planning to include Kamali as the face or the spokesperson for your product. ;)
-
Guys keep this thread positive without all of the bickering please.
-
I tried my version of the magic powder and I didn't get a better pump, but the ulcers in my mouth disapeared :D
-
This thread seems to be moving back and forth between positive and negative responses to Kings claims.
-
There is an amazing young woman that is a figure competitor and a bad ass MMA fighter that is the next to be tested with the Magic Powder. She is a true athlete and will be a great reference point for Jim. More will be revealed as time goes by.. This should be very interesting. BTW, people I have rebounded up to 281 lbs. and still have striations in my glutes. Jim's no insulin, no igf, no clen., and no diuretics seem to have changed my body chemistry in an amazing fashion. I am still using the Magic Powder and I just seem to be getting bigger and harder as each day that passes.. Fucking amazing.
-
Jim's no insulin, no igf, no clen.,
How come no IGF-1 or Clenbuterol? ?
-
Anyway.... Jim, if you are planning to bring your product to market I sincerely wish you the best of luck. While I normally wouldn't question your business sense or anything, I think I'd have to if you're planning to include Kamali as the face or the spokesperson for your product.
Considering that everyone knows who Kamali is, the recognition of the product might get there a lot quicker.
-
There is an amazing young woman that is a figure competitor and a bad ass MMA fighter that is the next to be tested with the Magic Powder. She is a true athlete and will be a great reference point for Jim. More will be revealed as time goes by.. This should be very interesting. BTW, people I have rebounded up to 281 lbs. and still have striations in my glutes. Jim's no insulin, no igf, no clen., and no diuretics seem to have changed my body chemistry in an amazing fashion. I am still using the Magic Powder and I just seem to be getting bigger and harder as each day that passes.. Fucking amazing.
Wow king! thats awesome, u care to share how u did this???
-
There is an amazing young woman that is a figure competitor and a bad ass MMA fighter that is the next to be tested with the Magic Powder. She is a true athlete and will be a great reference point for Jim. More will be revealed as time goes by.. This should be very interesting. BTW, people I have rebounded up to 281 lbs. and still have striations in my glutes. Jim's no insulin, no igf, no clen., and no diuretics seem to have changed my body chemistry in an amazing fashion. I am still using the Magic Powder and I just seem to be getting bigger and harder as each day that passes.. Fucking amazing.
will you compete at the ironman ?
-
Sodium has a lot to do with it but unlike the past I am still very vascular and keeping the striations.. Very weird. As far as the Ironman Pro goes I did not like the set up this year.. It was not the same Ironman as the past. The Ironman is always known for the absolute best lighting in the business and this year it just was not there. I'm not sure what's next but I do know I will stay right at 280 pounds all off-season. No more 16 weeks to get ready for a show.. I like the 8 week method much better. I will keep posting pics throughout the off-season to keep track of my conditioning and size.
-
King, why dont u do the romanian pro show a few weeks after the olympia???
that'd be a good way to qualify for the olympia, and you'll have a fresh body unlike everyone else who competed in the olympia this year.
-
Not for me Flex.. I don't want to go overseas and compete just to qualify for the Olympia. Steve Weinberger and Manion both said that the Atlantic City Pro was the second toughest show next to the Arnold Classic this year.. And I should have been 3rd or 4th. That to me means more than an Olympia qualification. I could have qualified at Houston, Europa and Tampa.. Nothing but a chicken wing baby. Jim has shown me the path to a healthy contest prep and crazy shredded at 250+ pounds. The Arnold Classic would be a much better show for me... We shall see. Remember bro., Don't take the easy road, beat the best to be the best.
-
Not for me Flex.. I don't want to go overseas and compete just to qualify for the Olympia. Steve Weinberger and Manion both said that the Atlantic City Pro was the second toughest show next to the Arnold Classic this year.. And I should have been 3rd or 4th. That to me means more than an Olympia qualification. I could have qualified at Houston, Europa and Tampa.. Nothing but a chicken wing baby. Jim has shown me the path to a healthy contest prep and crazy shredded at 250+ pounds. The Arnold Classic would be a much better show for me... We shall see. Remember bro., Don't take the easy road, beat the best to be the best.
Yea dude your totally right, hey so whats the offseason plan like???
You care to share your diet with us positive boarders !!! ;D
-
and a bad ass MMA fighter that is the next to be tested with the Magic Powder.
Why would an MMA fighter need to take the Magic Powder??
The only thing I can think of would be is to make weight.
-
Is this Magic Powder gonna be legal in Australia? They won't even allow ephedrine over here. :(
-
how does this magic powder compare with Vince Goodrum's magic stick? Do they share the same proprietary ingredients?
-
Is this Magic Powder gonna be legal in Australia? They won't even allow ephedrine over here. :(
yes
-
Why would an MMA fighter need to take the Magic Powder??
The only thing I can think of would be is to make weight.
Perhaps rehydrating after making weight. Get that sodium and water in the muscle. :D
-
so......your magic powder is salt? ???
-
so......your magic powder is salt? ???
It is? Where did you get that from? ???
-
It is? Where did you get that from? ???
Haha, Disgusted I'm sorry for speculating about sodium. :D
-
It is? Where did you get that from? ???
Disgusted should natural bodybuilders do "water cutting"?
I'm getting ready for getbig 3, hopefully win it
and would appreciate some helpful tips ;D
-
Disgusted should natural bodybuilders do "water cutting"?
I'm getting ready for getbig 3, hopefully win it
and would appreciate some helpful tips ;D
No!
-
No!
no to the watter cutting or the tips? ;D
-
no to the watter cutting or the tips? ;D
I wondered if you would ask that. ;D NO to cutting water, sorry.
-
Here's my new label for the powder, just wanted your opinions. :D
-
Here's my new label for the powder, just wanted your opinions. :D
does your "magic powder" come with directions and how to use manual?
I don't wanna kill myself over dosing on sodium diuretics ;D ;D ;D
-
Jim,
Can u send me 10lbs of this shit......Im having withdrawls from its awesomeness :) !!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
-
Disgusted, why in the world would you call a product something so close to Vince's "Magic Stick" which is/was an epic failure...
-
Disgusted, why in the world would you call a product something so close to Vince's "Magic Stick" which is/was an epic failure...
When did I ever call it magic powder?
-
When did I ever call it magic powder?
i like your name magic powder-i will buy it-i love supps
-
When did I ever call it magic powder?
I see, the name hasn't been released yet...My mistake...When King kept calling it Magic Powder, i just assumed that the spamming of said product has started...
-
mm just like alot of companys do build up alot of hype then let people hang to be salivating for this new product bill phillips of the old MM was king at marketing scams .. lol
-
Any goal on a release date for this product? The buzz is getting me interested.
I may be asking something that has already been answered, but is this a pre comp supp only, or an everyday pre workout supp?
-
Any goal on a release date for this product? The buzz is getting me interested.
I may be asking something that has already been answered, but is this a pre comp supp only, or an everyday pre workout supp?
Magic Powder= Sodium Chloride = NaCl = SALT
this was all a joke
Hope this helps :D ::)
-
Here's my new label for the powder, just wanted your opinions. :D
Logo looks a little too retro...
-
Magic Powder= Sodium Chloride = NaCl = SALT
this was all a joke
Hope this helps :D ::)
ahhhh f uck. lol
-
It's not that easy Slapnuts and I'm positive that all the supplement companies out there are wishing that this was a hoax. In due time more info. will be released by disgusted. I'm sure Flexington will have something to say about this being a "joke". He took the magic powder 30 minutes before he stepped on stage and had the best pump of his entire life and did not spill over into a sweat bucket on stage and not to mention never before seen vascularity.. Hummmm, salt? Try again.
-
It's not that easy Slapnuts and I'm positive that all the supplement companies out there are wishing that this was a hoax. In due time more info. will be released by disgusted. I'm sure Flexington will have something to say about this being a "joke". He took the magic powder 30 minutes before he stepped on stage and had the best pump of his entire life and did not spill over into a sweat bucket on stage and not to mention never before seen vascularity.. Hummmm, salt? Try again.
haha yes King, it is the real deal.
Increased vascularity, unreal pump, super hardness, and energy out the ying yang!
I guess when jimmy puts this out on the market, everyone else can enjoy what we already have :)
-
"slapnuts"
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
haha yes King, it is the real deal.
Increased vascularity, unreal pump, super hardness, and energy out the ying yang!
I guess when jimmy puts this out on the market, everyone else can enjoy what we already have :)
Did it taste real sweet? ??? :D
-
haha yes King, it is the real deal.
Increased vascularity, unreal pump, super hardness, and energy out the ying yang!
I guess when jimmy puts this out on the market, everyone else can enjoy what we already have :)
Viagra does the same 8)
-
Viagra does the same 8)
so does SUGAR
;D
-
Did it taste real sweet? ??? :D
no, had a nice berryish taste to it though. Not bad for a supplement powder.
-
Viagra does the same 8)
but viagra is $8 dollars a pill !!!
Id rather just watch a gianna micheals vid on tube8.com........does the exact same thing for me as well :)
-
but viagra is $8 dollars a pill !!!
Id rather just watch a gianna micheals vid on tube8.com........does the exact same thing for me as well :)
right on ;D
-
Viagra does the same 8)
No it doesn't. Big misconception, I have sen many guys use it before going on stage with zero increased vascularity.
-
Did it taste real sweet? ??? :D
The product may or may not be sweet, but that will have nothing to do with the way it performs.
-
The product may or may not be sweet, but that will have nothing to do with the way it performs.
I thought it was salt? ???
then King Kamali had to jump up and call me "slap nuts" ....whatever that means
-
The product may or may not be sweet, but that will have nothing to do with the way it performs.
it actually taste a bit like gaspari's size on.........which isnt that bad at all
-
I thought it was salt? ???
then King Kamali had to jump up and call me "slap nuts" ....whatever that means
Maybe it wasn't such an insult after all. ;D
Slapnuts: When your pounding a girl so hard your balls slap against her.
"Yeah I took her home last night and gave her some slapnuts for dinner"
-
Maybe it wasn't such an insult after all. ;D
Slapnuts: When your pounding a girl so hard your balls slap against her.
"Yeah I took her home last night and gave her some slapnuts for dinner"
ROFLMAO! ;D
so he meant that I am balls slapping against a girl? ??? ;D
Kamali confuses the protein powder out of me some times ;D
-
ROFLMAO! ;D
so he meant that I am balls slapping against a girl? ??? ;D
Kamali confuses the protein powder out of me some times ;D
Then again maybe not. ;D Just messin. ;)
Slapnuts: A person who does not know how to do anything at all.
"The slapnut couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel."
-
Then again maybe not. ;D Just messin. ;)
Slapnuts: A person who does not know how to do anything at all.
"The slapnut couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel."
so we have girls getting "slapnuts" after dinner and we have piss getting poured out of boots ;D
what's next?
Slapnuts: a game Clay Aiken and Elton John play when they are alone ;D
"you slap my nuts I'll slap yours"
-
Did it taste real sweet? ??? :D
Van, here is a hint the powder has a three-carbon molecule.
If you try to increase the amount of fluid in the body you need to drink extra water, but the kidneys remove most of it within an hour. That`s where his powder comes in. When his powder is ingested, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of fluid in the blood and tissue. If you figured out kip it to your self.
-
Van, here is a hint the powder has a three-carbon molecule.
If you try to increase the amount of fluid in the body you need to drink extra water, but the kidneys remove most of it within an hour. That`s where his powder comes in. When his powder is ingested, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of fluid in the blood and tissue. If you figured out kip it to your self.
Haha, of course, that's why I asked. I still think there's sodium in the product too. :D
-
Van, here is a hint the powder has a three-carbon molecule.
If you try to increase the amount of fluid in the body you need to drink extra water, but the kidneys remove most of it within an hour. That`s where his powder comes in. When his powder is ingested, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of fluid in the blood and tissue. If you figured out kip it to your self.
too easy !
your hint gave it away
the magic powder is simply, blended poptarts
-
Haha, of course, that's why I asked. I still think there's sodium in the product too. :D
Of course there is, with potassium too in small and correct balance with each other.
-
Of course there is, with potassium too in small and correct balance with each other.
It works even better if you add calcium salt of phytic acid, and take it 1 hour before the contest.
-
It works even better if you add calcium salt of phytic acid, and take it 1 hour before the contest.
What about chicken embryo extract? Gotta have that! :D
-
The begining of the end for all the so called "get you pumped up" products out there... 'NUFF SAID!
Sounds like a Gaspari Nutrition ad. You should demand a contract. 8)
-
Well Jim if you feel very strongly about this product, heres an option for you because i know the minimums of most contract manufacturing places is usually 1-10 million capsules or if its a powder product the minimum is 5000 pounds of a single run (single type/single flavor). Most people know I own Trueprotein with Doug, the unknown is the other half of our business is Primarch Manufacturing and we manufacture a slew of the name brand products in the industry....both capsulized and powder.
If you feel very strongly about the product and everything looks kosher, Doug and I will give you the same deal we have given 2-3 startups in the industry. If it is worthy, We will manufacture it for you and we will pay for all costs of that manufacturing, jugging, heat sealing, and digital labeling either together (or out of Doug and my pockets, providing we get paid back that amount somewhere down the road in the long run). All you would have to do is to do the marketing of said product. If it is a worthy product Doug and I will sign all nondisclosure and noncompeting agreements you want us to sign. And we would be looking at a partnership or percentage of sorts.
This would be a way to get your product on the shelf or out there distributed at the least amount of cost to yourself.
Something to think about anyway......
-
Well Jim if you feel very strongly about this product, heres an option for you because i know the minimums of most contract manufacturing places is usually 1-10 million capsules or if its a powder product the minimum is 5000 pounds of a single run (single type/single flavor). Most people know I own Trueprotein with Doug, the unknown is the other half of our business is Primarch Manufacturing and we manufacture a slew of the name brand products in the industry....both capsulized and powder.
If you feel very strongly about the product and everything looks kosher, Doug and I will give you the same deal we have given 2-3 startups in the industry. If it is worthy, We will manufacture it for you and we will pay for all costs of that manufacturing, jugging, heat sealing, and digital labeling either together (or out of Doug and my pockets, providing we get paid back that amount somewhere down the road in the long run). All you would have to do is to do the marketing of said product. If it is a worthy product Doug and I will sign all nondisclosure and noncompeting agreements you want us to sign. And we would be looking at a partnership or percentage of sorts.
This would be a way to get your product on the shelf or out there distributed at the least amount of cost to yourself.
Something to think about anyway......
Sounds like a hook up and a way onto the shelves here. :)
-
Damn, Jim... you and Dante need to sit down and brainstorm about this. I'd like to see it come to fruition sooner than later. You keep teasing us, God dammit! ;D
-
Well Jim if you feel very strongly about this product, heres an option for you because i know the minimums of most contract manufacturing places is usually 1-10 million capsules or if its a powder product the minimum is 5000 pounds of a single run (single type/single flavor). Most people know I own Trueprotein with Doug, the unknown is the other half of our business is Primarch Manufacturing and we manufacture a slew of the name brand products in the industry....both capsulized and powder.
If you feel very strongly about the product and everything looks kosher, Doug and I will give you the same deal we have given 2-3 startups in the industry. If it is worthy, We will manufacture it for you and we will pay for all costs of that manufacturing, jugging, heat sealing, and digital labeling either together (or out of Doug and my pockets, providing we get paid back that amount somewhere down the road in the long run). All you would have to do is to do the marketing of said product. If it is a worthy product Doug and I will sign all nondisclosure and noncompeting agreements you want us to sign. And we would be looking at a partnership or percentage of sorts.
This would be a way to get your product on the shelf or out there distributed at the least amount of cost to yourself.
Something to think about anyway......
Thanks for the offer, I will def. keep it in mind. :)