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Title: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: gee38 on January 11, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
first troy retiring now this

life can be so cruel
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Wiggs on January 11, 2014, 10:10:04 AM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\

Damn, kidney and liver.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Rascal full on January 11, 2014, 10:11:07 AM
Fuck sake!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: WalterWhite on January 11, 2014, 10:12:22 AM
How old is Will now?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: SF1900 on January 11, 2014, 10:13:07 AM
He was born with liver and kidney defects. All genetics.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 10:13:42 AM
Damn, kidney and liver.

apparently they're related, kidneys first, overtaxing the liver with toxins, result, massive amount of fluid retention... shit I feel for the guy.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 10:15:24 AM
I pray for his good health.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Army of One on January 11, 2014, 10:16:31 AM
Seriously, all these guys dropping at the same time, what specifically were they all taking to do it?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: affeman on January 11, 2014, 10:17:35 AM
He was born with liver and kidney defects. All genetics.

Yeah, the shit runs in his family. His dad and granddad also died from liver and kidney failure.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: SCRUBS on January 11, 2014, 10:18:06 AM
Derek is smiling...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on January 11, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
I'm not at all surprised. These steroid creeps judt don't learn You do steroids, you die. 

STEROIDSR4LOSERS
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
apparently they're related, kidneys first, overtaxing the liver with toxins, result, massive amount of fluid retention... shit I feel for the guy.

This happens a lot. A lot of the shit your liver processes eventually works is way through the kidneys. Multiple organ failure is no joke. It's usually not just 1 organ that shits out and everything else is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: BikiniSlut on January 11, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
That's really sad. Definitely an entertaining bodybuilder.  :'(

However since he's a vampire he has extraordinary healing abilities, so I'm sure he'll pull through just fine.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: TrueGrit on January 11, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
Is MattT coping OK?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
That's really sad. Definitely an entertaining bodybuilder.  :'(

However since he's a vampire he has extraordinary healing abilities, so I'm sure he'll pull through just fine.

 ???
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: BikiniSlut on January 11, 2014, 10:25:20 AM
There was an awesome GIF of will showing off his amazing dancing abilities......does anyone know where to dig that up?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: 6 Reps on January 11, 2014, 10:28:06 AM
Was he kind of a short guy?  I saw him once at a contest in the audience.  I couldn't exactly tell, but he looked like he might have been short.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 11, 2014, 10:29:14 AM
Sorry to hear it,hope he recovers.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Bevo on January 11, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
Is MattT coping OK?

MattT is already at his bed side, he was the one who texted Alex.....
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Army of One on January 11, 2014, 10:30:16 AM
Is MattT coping OK?

His business interests in Dubai, India have been suspended for the rest of today out of respect.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Bevo on January 11, 2014, 10:30:27 AM
Seriously, all these guys dropping at the same time, what specifically were they all taking to do it?

Pretty simple, everything in high dosages plus rec drugs most likely since from the Venice scene
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 10:30:53 AM
Liver is your first wall of defence.

After that, everything just crashes.


It is time that you guys start paying heed to my detox regime.
Reduced SGOT/SGPT counts during cycle and very less serum billrubin fluctuations.


Now if you booze, you are inviting total annihilation.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
Liver is your first wall of defence.

After that, everything just crashes.


It is time that you guys start paying heed to my detox regime.
Reduced SGOT/SGPT counts during cycle and very less serum billrubin fluctuations.


Now if you booze, you are inviting total annihilation.

What is your detox regimine specifically?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
Fristly all the essential vitamins.
Then stuff like CoQ10, NAC, ginseng, alpha lipoic acid.
Add milk thistle, garlic pearls, saw palmetto, tungat ali, gingko biloba

The stuff in the first two lines regularly.
the stuff in third line during cruise or off phases as it is broken by the liver and interferes with the breakdown of externally administered hormones.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 10:40:50 AM
Fristly all the essential vitamins.
Then stuff like CoQ10, NAC, ginseng, alpha lipoic acid.
Add milk thistle, garlic pearls, saw palmetto, tungat ali.

The stuff in the first two lines regularly.
the stuff in third line during cruise or off phases as it is broken by the liver and interferes with the breakdown of externally administered hormones.

ALA spike my blood sugar really high. I thought it was supposed to do the opposite, increase your insulin sensitivity.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: SF1900 on January 11, 2014, 10:41:26 AM
Yeah, the shit runs in his family. His dad and granddad also died from liver and kidney failure.


Yes, and the endless amount of drugs helped and had nothing to do with it at all.

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 10:43:29 AM
ALA spike my blood sugar really high. I thought it was supposed to do the opposite, increase your insulin sensitivity.

I do not know much about aka spiking blood sugar.
You got bloods fasting on aka?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 10:46:51 AM
I do not know much about aka spiking blood sugar.
You got bloods fasting on aka?

yea, w/o ALA, it's about 92-101. On ALA, 121-130 which is high.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The_Punisher on January 11, 2014, 10:50:22 AM
Ouch.....did he even win any trophies?.......I hope this illness is not bodybuilding related.......I'm sure it's genetic susceptibility........we need Shawn and bobby to weigh in on this... ;)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
What is the meaning of slin sensitivity?

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
What is the meaning of slin sensitivity?



ALA is supposed to increase it; similar to what pharma metformin (glucophage) would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The True Adonis on January 11, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Wiggs on January 11, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
I often lol on the inside now remembering all those years we were told bodybuilding was about health and fitness.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: jephrius on January 11, 2014, 10:58:50 AM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\
I'd like to see some supporting evidence that this is even happening. Not a mention about this anywhere on the internet. Only here. 
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _bruce_ on January 11, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Matt soon to attain widow status.
Kidding aside - hope he survives, heals and learns to stay away from this shit.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: nextgen on January 11, 2014, 11:13:06 AM
what specifically is causing this..?

i guess test in the grams + multiple other injectables, high dose orals, high doses growth, regular slin use + party drugs/rec drugs + alcohol

what can be done to avoid this, is there a 'safe' dosage that can be used
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: disco_stu on January 11, 2014, 11:30:34 AM
Fristly all the essential vitamins.
Then stuff like CoQ10, NAC, ginseng, alpha lipoic acid.
Add milk thistle, garlic pearls, saw palmetto, tungat ali, gingko biloba

The stuff in the first two lines regularly.
the stuff in third line during cruise or off phases as it is broken by the liver and interferes with the breakdown of externally administered hormones.

milk thistle has been proven to do nothing..as have most, if not all of the usual natural supplements. even vitamins are useless if u already have the right amount and ratios in your diet.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 11:34:23 AM
milk thistle has been proven to do nothing..as have most, if not all of the usual natural supplements. even vitamins are useless if u already have the right amount and ratios in your diet.

the right ratios of micro nutrients required by any athlete, a body builder especially, requires fruits to be consumed, by the pound.

How much lemon do you think is required for a daily dose of 3-4 GM of Vit-C?


Liver tabs work. The studies you refer to also quote the RDA of protein to be 1gm/kg. Anything more to be harmful to the body and the kidneys. I think we all here know the truth about that.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 11, 2014, 11:34:33 AM
Blacks don't crack of peace..
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 12:43:20 PM
milk thistle has been proven to do nothing..as have most, if not all of the usual natural supplements. even vitamins are useless if u already have the right amount and ratios in your diet.


This^^^Most supplements floating around will cause more injury to the liver and kidneys than if you did nothing at all. Most of the shit comes from China where they were already nailed from poisoning shit that comes into other countries...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wild willie on January 11, 2014, 12:44:54 PM
if this is true......very sad news.


will has always been an absolute gentleman.... everytime I have been around him.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: thebrink on January 11, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
Was he kind of a short guy?  I saw him once at a contest in the audience.  I couldn't exactly tell, but he looked like he might have been short.

Was he lol. He ain't dead yet, he'll pull through trust me.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
the right ratios of micro nutrients required by any athlete, a body builder especially, requires fruits to be consumed, by the pound.

How much lemon do you think is required for a daily dose of 3-4 GM of Vit-C?


Liver tabs work. The studies you refer to also quote the RDA of protein to be 1gm/kg. Anything more to be harmful to the body and the kidneys. I think we all here know the truth about that.

The body doesn't need grams of all natural vitamin C...Taking grams of ascorbic acid may be doing untold damage to the heart and other organs. The synthetic shit is bogus...And if you are getting your synthetic vitamins from China, its a total crap shoot...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 11, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
Get well Big Will!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Tito24 on January 11, 2014, 12:50:41 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: a_pupil on January 11, 2014, 12:54:05 PM
it seems like adding gh and slin to high dose aas causes more long term damage

the guys in the 70s and 80s used to abuse the juice just as much as today. the gh and slin is the only difference.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Schnauzer on January 11, 2014, 12:54:41 PM
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Bodybuilder-Will-Harris-Dancing-Like-a-Ballerina.gif)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 11, 2014, 12:55:52 PM
the right ratios of micro nutrients required by any athlete, a body builder especially, requires fruits to be consumed, by the pound.

How much lemon do you think is required for a daily dose of 3-4 GM of Vit-C?


Liver tabs work. The studies you refer to also quote the RDA of protein to be 1gm/kg. Anything more to be harmful to the body and the kidneys. I think we all here know the truth about that.


giving out advice that is likely to cause harm to people...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 11, 2014, 12:56:33 PM
it seems like adding gh and slin to high dose aas causes more long term damage

the guys in the 70s and 80s used to abuse the juice just as much as today. the gh and slin is the only difference.


it's high bodyweight/high blood pressure.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Tito24 on January 11, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
(http://www.zonecapone.com/bilder/newwill01big.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Pork_Chop on January 11, 2014, 01:33:51 PM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/will_harris_interview_a.jpg)

Kidney / liver failure?

I thought it was all down to hard work................

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 11, 2014, 01:43:06 PM
(http://www.zonecapone.com/bilder/newwill01big.jpg)

He looks a bit gay here, oh snap! :D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
it seems like adding gh and slin to high dose aas causes more long term damage

the guys in the 70s and 80s used to abuse the juice just as much as today. the gh and slin is the only difference.

And lets not forget that a lot of the gear today's guys are using are coming from powders from China...That wasn't the case for the guys 30 years ago...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Marty Champions on January 11, 2014, 02:47:16 PM
kidney bean
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Dr.J on January 11, 2014, 02:52:38 PM
I'm not at all surprised. These steroid creeps judt don't learn You do steroids, you die. 

STEROIDSR4LOSERS

Creeps??

Fuck off jack off.....
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: doison on January 11, 2014, 02:57:36 PM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/will_harris_interview_a.jpg)

Kidney / liver failure?

I thought it was all down to hard work................



What's Armin Scholz up to these days? 

It's blood pressure.  Would love to see an echo on Will though...betcha it's the clearest images imaginable
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Marty Champions on January 11, 2014, 02:57:58 PM
alot of us blacks can get away with beer and sugar but not that damn heme-iron shit
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 11, 2014, 02:59:14 PM
Get well Will!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Bodybuilder-Will-Harris-Dancing-Like-a-Ballerina.gif)

One of the best Getbig gifs of all time.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 03:51:08 PM
Hope he recovers.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 11, 2014, 03:57:05 PM
One of the best Getbig gifs of all time.

Still cracks me off ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: BikiniSlut on January 11, 2014, 03:59:56 PM
One of the best Getbig gifs of all time.

Not to mention it's the only one bodybuilding related.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Bevo on January 11, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2008/will_harris_interview_a.jpg)

Kidney / liver failure?

I thought it was all down to hard work................



Dude on the rights nose is wider than heath 
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: LiftEaTsLeEpRePeAt on January 11, 2014, 04:08:02 PM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\
hey alice23  all bullshit aisde  sorry about your friend.    Do you have a pic  I recognize the name but cant place it  to a face
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Bevo on January 11, 2014, 04:08:36 PM

it's high bodyweight/high blood pressure.

So drugs doesn't contribute to all all these health issues? Just high body weight and high blood pressure? Gotcha
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: doison on January 11, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
So drugs doesn't contribute to all all these health issues? Just high body weight and high blood pressure? Gotcha

Drugs cause the high body weight and blood pressure, fuckface
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Bevo on January 11, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Drugs cause the high body weight and blood pressure, fuckface

Calm down homo and lower the dosage

I was responding to the post of esfitness which seems to imply that it's just high body weight and high blood pressure

Obviously u can't read
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: flinstones1 on January 11, 2014, 04:17:36 PM
I've known will for years. great guy...

Ask him for advice some time training or nutrition whatever...you'll always get an answer.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 11, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
I don't know the guy but from what I've read on here, homosex, tribbing, thinking you're a vampire (rec drug delusions)... HIV related?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: LiftEaTsLeEpRePeAt on January 11, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
He looks a bit gay here, oh snap! :D
this guy must be a real getbigger  with a 10 year old pic
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: TrueGrit on January 11, 2014, 04:27:09 PM
I don't know the guy but from what I've read on here, homosex, tribbing, thinking you're a vampire (rec drug delusions)... HIV related?


I did wonder as well....
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Parker on January 11, 2014, 04:28:45 PM
The thing was, The Thing (Will World Harris) looked better in offseason shape than he did when he competed.

Hope he gets better. Here are his best shots.
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pro-news/10663d1024116861-world-harris-untitled8.jpg)
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/a/b/ab255-will1.jpg)
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/1/c//1c2c6-will4.jpg)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pro-news/10652d1024116227-world-harris-untitled1.jpg)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/21840d1061747680-heads-up-big-will-world-harris-fans-shock-awe-1e.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/pogmo/harris.jpg)
(http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2935&d=1227367842)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mPsyiDF5miY/SRrhmsk2-rI/AAAAAAAAABA/qP8N_c7xeAA/S700/will-harris.jpg)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10665&d=1024117043)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/21735d1061398300-heads-up-big-will-world-harris-fans-massive-peak1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 11, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
Where's Matt Stinkorag these days?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: TrueGrit on January 11, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
Just a bit chopped  ::)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/pogmo/harris.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: doison on January 11, 2014, 04:52:11 PM
Calm down homo and lower the dosage

I was responding to the post of esfitness which seems to imply that it's just high body weight and high blood pressure

Obviously u can't read


I don't think you understand what illiteracy is
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 11, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
yea,, 121-130 which is high.
no thats not high, thats diabetes 2.

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 11, 2014, 05:01:06 PM
Seriously, all these guys dropping at the same time, what specifically were they all taking to do it?

Ya, kinda sounds like a bad batch from a mutual supplier is suddenly knocking all these guys off.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Quickerblade on January 11, 2014, 05:01:20 PM
gal,

do you do crossfit brother?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Royalty on January 11, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Dont use the regular ALA

use the R-Alpha Lipoic Acid. The "R" version is the one the works.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 11, 2014, 05:05:42 PM
what specifically is causing this..?

i guess test in the grams + multiple other injectables, high dose orals, high doses growth, regular slin use + party drugs/rec drugs + alcohol

what can be done to avoid this, is there a 'safe' dosage that can be used
well.lol.

it could be either of these things.

you didnt list bad diet though.or lack og cardio and moving around.

brutal is, its an acute double failure, impossible to tell what happend, could be an of what youve listed.

safe dosage is literaly a honest trt.

gal,

do you do crossfit brother?
i do jogging :D

and the weight lifting i do is so light it could be classified as crossfit, all spotted reps with buddies, 10% rom fake plates 8)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 11, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
Will's interview was there in movie on steroids by that short fat permabulker guy. Cannot remember the name
He maintained this condition year round.
Sounded like a person with body image disorder of the highest degree.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 11, 2014, 05:14:26 PM
Will's interview was there in movie on steroids by that short fat permabulker guy. Cannot remember the name
He maintained this condition year round.
Sounded like a person with body image disorder of the highest degree.

All serious bodybuilders are.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: XFACTOR on January 11, 2014, 05:14:43 PM
Fristly all the essential vitamins.
Then stuff like CoQ10, NAC, ginseng, alpha lipoic acid.
Add milk thistle, garlic pearls, saw palmetto, tungat ali, gingko biloba

The stuff in the first two lines regularly.
the stuff in third line during cruise or off phases as it is broken by the liver and interferes with the breakdown of externally administered hormones.

this is absurd. If you think taking some herbal over the counter crap shields you against pumping a bunch of juice you are very wrong.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: asbrus on January 11, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
Yeah, the shit runs in his family. His dad and granddad also died from liver and kidney failure.

And drugs speed up the process.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 11, 2014, 05:20:57 PM
this is absurd. If you think taking some herbal over the counter crap shields you against pumping a bunch of juice you are very wrong.
i mean, you know, the bodys very own detox tools are called

kidney

liver

while there are potent herbs(lol opium is one,no?),its naive to think anything from tescos over the counter stuff would help

i mean i can see how someone who been drinking hard, then goes off alc and start thislte blabla and "suddenly" his parameters go down, but thatll be bc they stopped drinking.

haha, my girl(not sure if i must say ex now, but anway)says i must use those tabs for ph balance bc i eat much meat.

she doesnt realize, if they body doesnt manage ph levels itself, wed just die.lol
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: doison on January 11, 2014, 05:22:35 PM
And drugs speed up the process.

Nonsense poopy pants!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 11, 2014, 06:04:16 PM
not good. best wishes for a full and complete recovery
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: viking1 on January 11, 2014, 06:26:19 PM
Will's interview was there in movie on steroids by that short fat permabulker guy. Cannot remember the name
He maintained this condition year round.
Sounded like a person with body image disorder of the highest degree.
    1:25                       
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: che on January 11, 2014, 06:39:13 PM
And lets not forget that a lot of the gear today's guys are using are coming from powders from China...
That's a good thing  , real gear  would kill them faster.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Mobil on January 11, 2014, 06:50:53 PM
And lets not forget that a lot of the gear today's guys are using are coming from powders from China...That wasn't the case for the guys 30 years ago...

not only that but they abuse pain killers.... pain killers are more toxic then steroids to the kidneys and liver
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: dyslexic on January 11, 2014, 06:55:55 PM
Maybe.. just maybe... some of the younger "up-and-coming" bodybuilders should re-think their priorities and their future plans...


Hardcore Bodybuilding is a dangerous endeavor.


Argue all you want.


I won't change my mind.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 06:58:01 PM
    1:25                       


Epic lack of sleeves where there should be.

Did I comment on the "baseball" "cap"? Oh brother.

The  Darwinian cultural cleanup is overdue.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: MAXX on January 11, 2014, 07:47:04 PM
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
That's a good thing  , real gear  would kill them faster.

Lead is a serious issue with anything coming from China...Lead poisoning is no joke...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 11, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
not only that but they abuse pain killers.... pain killers are more toxic then steroids to the kidneys and liver

Good point
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Alex23 on January 11, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
not only that but they abuse pain killers.... pain killers are more toxic then steroids to the kidneys and liver

THAN...

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Hypertrophy on January 11, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
milk thistle has been proven to do nothing..as have most, if not all of the usual natural supplements. even vitamins are useless if u already have the right amount and ratios in your diet.


The active ingredient in milk thistle is silymarin:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21466434

"In chronic liver diseases caused by oxidative stress (alcoholic and non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases, drug- and chemical-induced hepatic toxicity), the antioxidant medicines such as silymarin can have beneficial effect. Liver cirrhosis, non-alcoholic fatty liver and steatohepatitis are risk factors for hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC). Insulin resistance and oxidative stress are the major pathogenetic mechanisms leading the hepatic cell injury in these patients. The silymarin exerts membrane-stabilizing and antioxidant activity, it promotes hepatocyte regeneration; furthermore it reduces the inflammatory reaction, and inhibits the fibrogenesis in the liver. "
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: James28 on January 11, 2014, 10:36:27 PM
CNN and BBC doing a minute by minute update on this. Obama interviewed shortly to share his thoughts.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Ugly on January 11, 2014, 10:37:18 PM
This poor bastard. Another one bites the dust. When will somebody step up?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: tom joad on January 11, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
This poor bastard. Another one bites the dust. When will somebody step up?

is Chick still the "athletes' rep?"  when all's said and done, plenty of carnage on his watch.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: RagingBull on January 11, 2014, 10:54:51 PM
Wishing Will a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: bentone on January 11, 2014, 11:02:53 PM
Has anyone considered that the reason perhaps guys are also getting sick is because a great deal of the gear on the market is made from China? The Chinese are notorious for tainted pharmaceuticals and maybe the reason guys are now getting sick is due to heavy metal poisoning or some other poisoning from tainted gear?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
Has anyone considered that the reason perhaps guys are also getting sick is because a great deal of the gear on the market is made from China? The Chinese are notorious for tainted pharmaceuticals and maybe the reason guys are now getting sick is due to heavy metal poisoning or some other poisoning from tainted gear?

No.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: bentone on January 11, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
Chiroflex what do you mean?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: BikiniSlut on January 11, 2014, 11:10:59 PM
Has anyone considered that the reason perhaps guys are also getting sick is because a great deal of the gear on the market is made from China? The Chinese are notorious for tainted pharmaceuticals and maybe the reason guys are now getting sick is due to heavy metal poisoning or some other poisoning from tainted gear?

I would think pros know and have access to the highest quality gear available.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 11, 2014, 11:14:26 PM
Has anyone considered that the reason perhaps guys are also getting sick is because a great deal of the gear on the market is made from China? The Chinese are notorious for tainted pharmaceuticals and maybe the reason guys are now getting sick is due to heavy metal poisoning or some other poisoning from tainted gear?

IMO It's prolly got more to do with research chess and re-discovered hormones masquerading a prohormones that have been doing the damage..the common Tried and tested androgens/anabolics have been around for 60+ years without peeps dropping like flies. For example How safe must be  these "re-discovered hormones" be from IML or BSL, that are recommended to take for only 4 weeks?  :-\
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 11:15:52 PM
Chiroflex what do you mean?


I think you're "tripping over quarters to pick up pennies" as the old phrase goes.

The explanation is much more simple than worrying about some contaminated Chinese powders.

Fact: abuse of AAS + GH + Slin is creating extremely unhealthy people. The human body is not made to tolerate such size and the accompanying physiological stresses associated with the drugs and food intake.

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 11, 2014, 11:16:17 PM
The active ingredient in milk thistle is silymarin:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21466434

"In chronic liver diseases caused by oxidative stress (alcoholic and non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases, drug- and chemical-induced hepatic toxicity), the antioxidant medicines such as silymarin can have beneficial effect. Liver cirrhosis, non-alcoholic fatty liver and steatohepatitis are risk factors for hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC). Insulin resistance and oxidative stress are the major pathogenetic mechanisms leading the hepatic cell injury in these patients. The silymarin exerts membrane-stabilizing and antioxidant activity, it promotes hepatocyte regeneration; furthermore it reduces the inflammatory reaction, and inhibits the fibrogenesis in the liver. "

silymarin works, sure, but try getting your body to absorb it from milk thistle. won't happen.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 11:17:44 PM
IMO It's prolly got more to do with research chess and re-discovered hormones masquerading a prohormones that have been doing the damage..the common Tried and tested androgens/anabolics have been around for 60+ years without peeps dropping like flies. For example How safe must be  these "re-discovered hormones" be from IML or BSL, that are recommended to take for only 4 weeks?  :-\

The mega dosing of AAS are not good.....but the GH and Slin are really fucking terrible in high doses for extended periods of time. Shit will not end well. You don't just retire and that's that; these guys are creating irreparable damage to internal structures.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: booty on January 11, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
Very sad news.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Ugly on January 11, 2014, 11:41:03 PM
I think you're "tripping over quarters to pick up pennies" as the old phrase goes.

The explanation is much more simple than worrying about some contaminated Chinese powders.

Fact: abuse of AAS + GH + Slin is creating extremely unhealthy people. The human body is not made to tolerate such size and the accompanying physiological stresses associated with the drugs and food intake.



Seems pretty obvious, I'd say.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 11, 2014, 11:45:02 PM
Seems pretty obvious, I'd say.

Look at their skin, their breathing, their perspiration, how they are literally dying during their sleep because their body can't breathe (sleep apnea).....these are not healthy people.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Ugly on January 11, 2014, 11:50:59 PM
Look at their skin, their breathing, their perspiration, how they are literally dying during their sleep because their body can't breathe (sleep apnea).....these are not healthy people.

Yet they still do it. Especially this guy, who they say had kidney issues before. Jesus, why?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: illuminati on January 11, 2014, 11:57:37 PM
I'm not at all surprised. These steroid creeps judt don't learn You do steroids, you die. 



Breaking News.!!!!!!.......
Even if you don't do Steroids You Will Die.!!!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 12, 2014, 12:45:53 AM
I would think pros know and have access to the highest quality gear available.

Will Harris, DA and the likes were not known for having a lot of money. So their probability to buy fake gear is obviously larger.

On the contrary, think of guys like Dennis James who has 3 - 5 expensive cars and probably makes a lot of money selling drugs or coke etc.. he hasn't died yet. Coindidence?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: sync pulse on January 12, 2014, 12:47:28 AM
what specifically is causing this..?

i guess test in the grams + multiple other injectables, high dose orals, high doses growth, regular slin use + party drugs/rec drugs + alcohol

what can be done to avoid this, is there a 'safe' dosage that can be used?
It takes blood tests interpreted by sports doctors to properly dose.

it seems like adding gh and slin to high dose aas causes more long term damage

the guys in the 70s and 80s used to abuse the juice just as much as today. the gh and slin is the only difference.
They had access to doctors who determined optimal dosing.


it's high bodyweight/high blood pressure.
Sports doctors would have them on blood pressure meds.

And lets not forget that a lot of the gear today's guys are using are coming from powders from China...That wasn't the case for the guys 30 years ago...
Underground Laboratories are not pharmaceutical companies with safeguards in place to detect adulterants

Ya, kinda sounds like a bad batch from a mutual supplier is suddenly knocking all these guys off.
Forensic analysis is going to be hard because, again, a lot of this stuff is from illicit sources.

IMO It's prolly got more to do with research chess and re-discovered hormones masquerading a prohormones that have been doing the damage..the common Tried and tested androgens/anabolics have been around for 60+ years without peeps dropping like flies. For example How safe must be  these "re-discovered hormones" be from IML or BSL, that are recommended to take for only 4 weeks?  :-\
Underground Labs don’t do clinical trials on "designer" steroids, do they?

I think you're "tripping over quarters to pick up pennies" as the old phrase goes.

The explanation is much more simple than worrying about some contaminated Chinese powders.

Fact: abuse of AAS + GH + Slin is creating extremely unhealthy people. The human body is not made to tolerate such size and the accompanying physiological stresses associated with the drugs and food intake.
It’s a synergism, both notions contribute.  

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Vince B on January 12, 2014, 12:59:21 AM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 01:16:10 AM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.

dude, why don't you just fuck off and stay out of bbing drug discussion. you should really learn to shut your fucking mouth and avoid commenting on things you don't know shit about.

I swear to god, the more I see you talk, the more I want to slap you in the face like a bitch when I see you.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 12, 2014, 04:06:38 AM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.

^^ Yup...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: MAXX on January 12, 2014, 04:18:59 AM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.
Bob has problems too?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: NotMrAverage on January 12, 2014, 04:20:25 AM
Is will gonna be the first one of 2014?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Purge_WTF on January 12, 2014, 04:26:23 AM
dude, why don't you just fuck off and stay out of bbing drug discussion. you should really learn to shut your fucking mouth and avoid commenting on things you don't know shit about.

I swear to god, the more I see you talk, the more I want to slap you in the face like a bitch when I see you.

He's telling the truth, though, isn't he?

Arnold and the guys from the 70's aren't dropping like flies because they used them in moderate doses, and they didn't use things like diuretics and insulin either.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 12, 2014, 04:27:09 AM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.
very astute observation vince but beware...tribbing can also kill you. Stay safe my friend.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big_Pat on January 12, 2014, 04:30:36 AM
Synthol plays a big part here i think

DA was a synth abuser, kidneys fucked

kenneth wheeler too - kidney crapped out

many others

BUT then look at all the strongmen that die - jesse marunde, mike jenkins etc, they dont use synth but being 3-400 lbs takes its toll on the heart..

Dont see any wsm guys having kidney failure do you?

Hope Will recovers and opens a coffee shop then finds jesus
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 12, 2014, 04:33:06 AM
All u haters should stop accusing this guy of abusing AAS. Everything he was taking was legal, safe and OTC.

http://www.truthaboutlegalsteroids.com/

The TRUTH About Legal Steroids

The things I probably get asked about the most are steroids and a newer genre of supplementation…Legal Steroids. Not going to address steroids on here because I'm NOT about to encourage young kids to go down that path with that info. I AM going to address Legal Steroids on this website for a few reasons. First, I am now getting asked about them more than ever…at least a few times per week. Second, yes, I've tried most if not all of the ones on the market. Third, I know what works best and I was somewhat stunned at just how powerful a few of them can be. The brand I use has no side effects, kicks motherfucking ass and not only have I used them myself but I know plenty of other pros who use them as well as most of my hardcore clients.

Seems like this is a renamed Sprayflex?  Larry Pepe's company?

Pay a few hundred bucks for plain water. For shame!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Grim Lifter on January 12, 2014, 04:33:57 AM
He's telling the truth, though, isn't he?

Arnold and the guys from the 70's aren't dropping like flies because they used them in moderate doses, and they didn't use things like diuretics and insulin either.

Used them in moderate doses? Arnold would have used everything he could get his hands on and a fuckload of it. Plenty of them did have problems but they weren't as heavy as today's guys due to extra drugs and their bodyweights are much lower than the guys having issues today. Plus back then they seemed to come off at times which would have helped where as today they seem to stay on all the time.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 12, 2014, 04:33:59 AM



Dont see any wsm guys having kidney failure do you?



Svend Karlsen - kidney failure
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Grim Lifter on January 12, 2014, 04:34:40 AM
    1:25                       


Lee Priest is awesome. He's the only one who jokes about everything.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 12, 2014, 04:38:39 AM
China was selling creatine with impurities. They sold milk that was contaminated and it killed their own children. Do you think the black market steroids that counterfeit legit steroids from China are safe? Not saying this is the cause. Just saying it could be. A bodybuilder can't take steroids from unknown sources sold from the trunk of car in the parking lot of a gym and think these are legit, look at the box and insert.

Bodybuilders are taking steroids, insulin, growth hormone, LH, anti estrogens, thyroid hormone, speed, epo, oil site injections, and who knows what else then say the risk to health is over stated. If you are risking health to have temporary drug muscles you have a fragile insecure ego that a syringe isn't going to fix.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: NotMrAverage on January 12, 2014, 04:39:05 AM
So Sven had kidney failure? met him lots of times...he did some bb comp as well back in the day. Viking strong!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Purge_WTF on January 12, 2014, 04:42:50 AM
Used them in moderate doses? Arnold would have used everything he could get his hands on and a fuckload of it. Plenty of them did have problems but they weren't as heavy as today's guys due to extra drugs and their bodyweights are much lower than the guys having issues today. Plus back then they seemed to come off at times which would have helped where as today they seem to stay on all the time.

And they cycled on and off back then as well, yes.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big_Pat on January 12, 2014, 06:00:39 AM
Svend Karlsen - kidney failure

He's still alive
Wiking power
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 06:21:58 AM
The thing was, The Thing (Will World Harris) looked better in offseason shape than he did when he competed.
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/21735d1061398300-heads-up-big-will-world-harris-fans-massive-peak1a.jpg)

I am guessing that this is a little shopping here, otherwise this is one big-ass Hebrew. That, or he is 3-1/2 feet tall.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on January 12, 2014, 07:17:21 AM
Synthol plays a big part here i think

DA was a synth abuser, kidneys fucked

kenneth wheeler too - kidney crapped out

many others

BUT then look at all the strongmen that die - jesse marunde, mike jenkins etc, they dont use synth but being 3-400 lbs takes its toll on the heart..

Dont see any wsm guys having kidney failure do you?

Hope Will recovers and opens a coffee shop then finds jesus


Good post.  All truth.

And that last line... ;D

I am guessing that this is a little shopping here, otherwise this is one big-ass Hebrew. That, or he is 3-1/2 feet tall.

I think about 5'8
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: dustin on January 12, 2014, 07:21:19 AM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.

There are lots of authorities, you sad, stupid old fuck. usmcdevildoc, ether, etc. There are lots of doctors and other medical professionals here. Just because you're a sad, stupid old fucker doesn't mean that everyone is. What you, old fucker?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: f450 on January 12, 2014, 07:23:33 AM
There are lots of authorities, you sad, stupid old fuck. usmcdevildoc, ether, etc. There are lots of doctors and other medical professionals here. Just because you're a sad, stupid old fucker doesn't mean that everyone is. What you, old fucker?

apt  ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on January 12, 2014, 07:34:24 AM
There are lots of authorities, you sad, stupid old fuck. usmcdevildoc, ether, etc. There are lots of doctors and other medical professionals here. Just because you're a sad, stupid old fucker doesn't mean that everyone is. What you, old fucker?

(http://i.imgur.com/JNfN77x.gif)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Skylge on January 12, 2014, 07:34:52 AM
I often lol on the inside now remembering all those years we were told bodybuilding was about health and fitness.

The Weider principles of health and fitness:

1 steroids
2 growth hormones
3 synthol
4 recreational drugs
5 pain killers
6 xxl dosages of protein
7 poker face in order to lie about all above
8 excellent health insurance    

  :-X
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Skylge on January 12, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
Good post.  All truth.

And that last line... ;D

I think about 5'8

5 ft 9 (176 cm) and 320 lbs (145 kilos....) off season according to this (reliable?) site:


www.mrofansite.com/harris.html
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: musclecenter on January 12, 2014, 07:45:03 AM
thats really sad, if its true.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 12, 2014, 07:51:59 AM
thats really sad, if its true.

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: viking1 on January 12, 2014, 08:04:40 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/JNfN77x.gif)(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRovWrB1pmgiF7bhUEHnhFKHCcJqic88UDkSR9SfbXv-cVsebOq)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wild willie on January 12, 2014, 08:07:06 AM
I am guessing that this is a little shopping here, otherwise this is one big-ass Hebrew. That, or he is 3-1/2 feet tall.
will has large pipes......when i saw him in person....he was 280 with some abs.......probably a shade under
5'10.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 08:09:34 AM
will has large pipes......when i saw him in person....he was 280 with some abs.......probably a shade under
5'10.

There's "large" and then there is "absurd". Guessing 'Halo already cracked one off to these pics.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Wiggs on January 12, 2014, 08:15:21 AM
I've met him many times. No homo. He's was an inch or so shorter than me and I'm just under 5'10. BTW, arms not shopped. Dudes arms are for real.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: flinstones1 on January 12, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
I've met him many times. No homo. He's was an inch or so shorter than me and I'm just under 5'10. BTW, arms not shopped. Dudes arms are for real.

Yeah the dude was a fucking mutant at one time. The guy Looked like he jumped out of a comic book
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: MisterMagoo on January 12, 2014, 08:28:33 AM
He's telling the truth, though, isn't he?

Arnold and the guys from the 70's aren't dropping like flies because they used them in moderate doses, and they didn't use things like diuretics and insulin either.

they didn't do it out of prudence, though. you're out of your mind if you don't think they took everything they had access to and took as much as they thought they could get away with. those guys ate dbol like it was candy and dudes like pete grymkowski openly admit to running 10g of shit a week back in the 1970s.

the only difference is that they didn't HAVE the drugs available now. if arnold and serge nubret had the litany of drugs out there they would have been plumped up like today's guys and they'd be dying at the same rate.

bodybuilding has been, for as long as drugs have existed, a chemical experiment. each generation learns off of the one before it. they up the dosage, they try new things, they just keep testing and testing and pushing and pushing. then if a few people die they figure out what killed them and avoid that when they make their next protocol. then they'll push in a new direction until it kills more people, and so on and so on.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 12, 2014, 08:31:13 AM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson322_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on January 12, 2014, 08:38:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/JNfN77x.gif)(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRovWrB1pmgiF7bhUEHnhFKHCcJqic88UDkSR9SfbXv-cVsebOq)

(http://i.imgur.com/JNfN77x.gif)(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRovWrB1pmgiF7bhUEHnhFKHCcJqic88UDkSR9SfbXv-cVsebOq)(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fbf226f0783f661ff3bd7b04e376cbc3/tumblr_mgzzqmAFs01rye7ayo2_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 08:39:57 AM
It takes blood tests interpreted by sports doctors to properly dose.
They had access to doctors who determined optimal dosing.
Sports doctors would have them on blood pressure meds.
Underground Laboratories are not pharmaceutical companies with safeguards in place to detect adulterants
Forensic analysis is going to be hard because, again, a lot of this stuff is from illicit sources.
Underground Labs don’t do clinical trials on "designer" steroids, do they?
It’s a synergism, both notions contribute.  



FYI, docs didn't DETERMINE the doses for Bodybuilders back in the day.

Also, designer steroids are not these mystery substances you think they are. People get all worked up over them like there in the same category as bath salts LOL. AFAIK there's no new ones coming out; there all old drugs from old pharmaceutical books that have never been mass produced/marketed.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Unless I missed something in this thread, i'm calling bullshit until someone with some credibility confirms it. Ron, speak on this please.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Borracho on January 12, 2014, 08:53:41 AM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\

Its gotta be the stress of modern day life.

Last night I couldn't log on to my twitter account and I swear I almost had a heart attack.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
This thread is based on a text.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
Its gotta be the stress of modern day life.

Last night I couldn't log on to my twitter account and I swear I almost had a heart attack.

Lmao!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: dustin on January 12, 2014, 09:00:36 AM
This thread is based on a text.

Do you think it's outlandish that a steroid abuser is hurt by abusing steroids?

I mean, it's not like it's altogether uncommon. Look at the body count for 2013. I love bodybuilding and I use juice too, but these guys are something else.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: TrueGrit on January 12, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Unless I missed something in this thread, i'm calling bullshit until someone with some credibility confirms it. Ron, speak on this please.

You have the word of a King...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Scott on January 12, 2014, 09:07:22 AM
(http://theeclecticeccentricshopaholic.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/hobson.jpg%3Fw%3D247%26h%3D300)

I'll alert the media.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: musclecenter on January 12, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
https://www.facebook.com/ifbbworldharris (https://www.facebook.com/ifbbworldharris)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2014, 09:26:02 AM
Do you think it's outlandish that a steroid abuser is hurt by abusing steroids?

I mean, it's not like it's altogether uncommon. Look at the body count for 2013. I love bodybuilding and I use juice too, but these guys are something else.

Not the point. This is a rumor nothing more nothing less. As far as the body count goes, who else is to blame besides themselves? I name a few starting with the IFBB judging system. As for the one's who didn't compete, sheer narcissism was there doom.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: MisterMagoo on January 12, 2014, 09:39:08 AM
Not the point. This is a rumor nothing more nothing less. As far as the body count goes, who else is to blame besides themselves? I name a few starting with the IFBB judging system. As for the one's who didn't compete, sheer narcissism was there doom.

when guys drug themselves to oblivion in order to win contests my heart goes out to them because they're doing what they have to in order to win (and probably don't know what else to do with their lives).

the guys who drug themselves into oblivion and then don't even compete are just sick in the head. same with the guys who try to stay full size post-retirement. say what you will about ronnie and how he looks now, it's a damn sight better than if he tried to stay that big.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Wiggs on January 12, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/JNfN77x.gif)(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRovWrB1pmgiF7bhUEHnhFKHCcJqic88UDkSR9SfbXv-cVsebOq)(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fbf226f0783f661ff3bd7b04e376cbc3/tumblr_mgzzqmAFs01rye7ayo2_1280.jpg)

lolololol
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: el numero uno on January 12, 2014, 09:47:19 AM
When I was a teenager I thought bbing was so cool, and straight. I'm glad I now know what's really going on.

Sometimes you see guys like Lou, zane, robbie robinson, and you think for a moment juicing it's not unhealthy, then you see a bunch of unknowed tiny tits dying due to heart attacks at their 30-40s, all of them on the juice. It's not worthy, some people are lucky, some are not.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2014, 10:08:26 AM
when guys drug themselves to oblivion in order to win contests my heart goes out to them because they're doing what they have to in order to win (and probably don't know what else to do with their lives).

the guys who drug themselves into oblivion and then don't even compete are just sick in the head. same with the guys who try to stay full size post-retirement. say what you will about ronnie and how he looks now, it's a damn sight better than if he tried to stay that big.

I disagree. I blame the judges for letting it get out of hand. I don't think anyone wants to kill themselves for very little.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: MisterMagoo on January 12, 2014, 10:10:34 AM
I disagree. I blame the judges for letting it get out of hand. I don't think anyone wants to kill themselves for very little.

coach, you have the shittiest reading comprehension.

that is exactly what i was saying, numbnuts.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 12, 2014, 10:24:58 AM
Unless I missed something in this thread, i'm calling bullshit until someone with some credibility confirms it. Ron, speak on this please.
yah sounds very unlikely that it happened yet again.

must be another one of these very rare exceptions
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2014, 10:30:34 AM
coach, you have the shittiest reading comprehension.

that is exactly what i was saying, numbnuts.

Admittedly, I do sometimes. Sorry :-\
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
has it been confirmed?   he's very strong and pretty young, i bet he'll get healthy lifestyle going & recover.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Tito24 on January 12, 2014, 11:04:47 AM
I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Skylge on January 12, 2014, 11:09:57 AM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson322_o.jpg)

Nutella killed him    :)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: TrueGrit on January 12, 2014, 11:11:49 AM
Nutella killed him    :)

He's not dead. Alive and well, living in Egypt.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2014, 12:04:28 PM
Not one person on this forum is an authority on bodybuilding pharmaceuticals. Period. All that guesswork proves it. Side effects happen with current stacks. Go back to pre 1980 and most of the guys looked healthier.

What is sad is seeing the blind lead the blind. We can only imagine the damage inflicted by steroids, etc., over long careers. Total lunacy is accepted as the standard. Bob Chick is a stooge and has suffered side effects himself. Dialysis, heart problems, etc., and even early death awaits many of these guys.

It is frightening to read some of the posts regarding folks AAS usage in this and other bodybuilding forums. I am not at all surprised that so many bodybuilders and wannabes get sick and or die. Our bodies can take just so much abuse.

Just read a post by this fellow who extracted 3 syringes of dark blood from his AAS injection site and was wondering if that meant something was amiss....HELLO!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: irishdave on January 12, 2014, 12:18:33 PM
It is frightening to read some of the posts regarding folks AAS usage in this and other bodybuilding forums. I am not at all surprised that so many bodybuilders and wannabes get sick and or die. Our bodies can take just so much abuse.

Just read a post by this fellow who extracted 3 syringes of dark blood from his AAS injection site and was wondering if that meant something was amiss....HELLO!

3 syringes of dark blood...that ain't shit. Try 600ml of blood and puss (so the doctor said) out of the abscess on my right glute
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: SmallPole on January 12, 2014, 12:23:46 PM
3 syringes of dark blood...that ain't shit. Try 600ml of blood and puss (so the doctor said) out of the abscess on my right glute

yup

i once drew 80 ml of blood and puss... also right glute
had to repeat the process in the evening and got 50 ml more
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: irishdave on January 12, 2014, 12:32:14 PM
I still don't know what happened...I was fine one night then I got a slight fever and felt flu-ey. Then a few hours later my ass started to swell up and the pain was real bad. Went into hospital a few days later after putting it off hoping it would go away. Doc drained 30ml with a syringe and sent me home. 2 days later I'm back worse than before and they decide they're gonna cut me open.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
I still don't know what happened...I was fine one night then I got a slight fever and felt flu-ey. Then a few hours later my ass started to swell up and the pain was real bad. Went into hospital a few days later after putting it off hoping it would go away. Doc drained 30ml with a syringe and sent me home. 2 days later I'm back worse than before and they decide they're gonna cut me open.

Did you pin down there? How much and what?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: irishdave on January 12, 2014, 12:39:02 PM
Did you pin down there? How much and what?

It had been a few weeks since I had pinned - but the last stuff I had used was some leftover tren a friend had, I never normally would take a 2nd hand bottle from anyone but I did on this occasion. Maybe jabbed 3-4x with 50-100mg of tren each time...so only a couple of ml's of his gear. This is the only thing that I did which would deviate from the norm. Unless it was something in the test I was pinning weeks prior to that...I'll never know. It's a year ago now.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
It had been a few weeks since I had pinned - but the last stuff I had used was some leftover tren a friend had, I never normally would take a 2nd hand bottle from anyone but I did on this occasion. Maybe jabbed 3-4x with 50-100mg of tren each time...so only a couple of ml's of his gear. This is the only thing that I did which would deviate from the norm. Unless it was something in the test I was pinning weeks prior to that...I'll never know. It's a year ago now.

So you survived. That's good. When are you gonna show up in Game of Thrones?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: irishdave on January 12, 2014, 12:48:33 PM
So you survived. That's good. When are you gonna show up in Game of Thrones?

I don't think I'm gonna get called again now 'cos of the beard fiasco. It's a pity 'cos it was a decent role. There's other stuff coming up though ;)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 02:02:23 PM
3 syringes of dark blood...that ain't shit. Try 600ml of blood and puss (so the doctor said) out of the abscess on my right glute

that's just shy of 2 soda cans worth of blood and puss. lol

I think my hip/quad abcess only produced less than 100ml, but she squeezed it by hand after cutting it open.. didn't use syringes, so hard to tell. mine was from a black widow bite though, not juice, and nowhere near an injection site.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 02:03:15 PM
btw... will's last post on his facebook was Jan 10th and there's been no mention of him being ill.. even had a gym candid from I think the 6th and he looked just fine.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Parker on January 12, 2014, 02:18:12 PM
I'll say this, I think if Will had put more effort into his bbing and instead of being some proto-Kai Greene-Vampire,
(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553721_681237451898794_1606397101_n.jpg?dl=1)
he'd be a top five Mr. Olympian

His offseason pics show that his strong points are chest, arms, and a very great taper with wide flaring lats.
When he comes in shape, he loses a ton of size, comes in flat, and his legs needed to be bigger

(https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1014340_596001593755714_1813465273_n.jpg?dl=1)

He says that he was over 300 pounds for this pic

Will Harris IFBB Pro
THE THING for 'A Lobo Christmas Special' TV pilot --over 300lbs off season--no fancy filter this time. Studio provided the make-up. I brought the muscle


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1523098_680578471964692_1769141545_o.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: SmallPole on January 12, 2014, 02:20:12 PM
It had been a few weeks since I had pinned - but the last stuff I had used was some leftover tren a friend had, I never normally would take a 2nd hand bottle from anyone but I did on this occasion. Maybe jabbed 3-4x with 50-100mg of tren each time...so only a couple of ml's of his gear. This is the only thing that I did which would deviate from the norm. Unless it was something in the test I was pinning weeks prior to that...I'll never know. It's a year ago now.

similar story here - it's been a couple of weeks and i kept having a pain similar to a standard pip, but it just wouldn't go away

so one time i just pinned the area that had what felt like a rock hard bump deep inside the muscle and drew the puss out. i used a 5 ml syringe and was really fucking surprised to see the whole thing fill up. so i pinned one more time... same thing, then again... got a bit worried after a couple of syringes.

funny thing is i pinned my fucking ass 12 times (i counted the needle marks afterwards  ;D) before i realized i can simply leave the needle in my ass and just change the syringes

good times were had
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 02:32:59 PM
Bodybuilding is a fun sport that the whole family can enjoy.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 02:45:13 PM
I got an abscess once.......FUCK WINSTROL - V .   :(
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
I got an abscess once.......FUCK WINSTROL - V .   :(

I was given a free bottle of this......normally I'd be extatic but I've heard nothing good about injectable winny
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 03:19:14 PM
I was given a free bottle of this......normally I'd be extatic but I've heard nothing good about injectable winny
I`d never use it again bro,free or not.

Google it.............it`s probably the single most compound that causes the most abscesses in people.

I let mine go way too far for too long...not a pleasant experience at all.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: forillagorilla on January 12, 2014, 03:20:38 PM
I'm not at all surprised. These steroid creeps judt don't learn You do steroids, you die. 

STEROIDSR4LOSERS

Shut the fuck up you tiny little fag
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 03:32:30 PM
I`d never use it again bro,free or not.

Google it.............it`s probably the single most compound that causes the most abscesses in people.

I let mine go way too far for too long...not a pleasant experience at all.

Damn. My buddy gave it to me after 2 doses. Said it hurt too fuckin bad. No abscess but PIP for like 5 days. May have to sacrifice this vial to the steroid gods  :-\
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 06:09:49 PM
Damn. My buddy gave it to me after 2 doses. Said it hurt too fuckin bad. No abscess but PIP for like 5 days. May have to sacrifice this vial to the steroid gods  :-\

you could've drank it!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Slik on January 12, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
I'll say this, I think if Will had put more effort into his bbing and instead of being some proto-Kai Greene-Vampire,
(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553721_681237451898794_1606397101_n.jpg?dl=1)
he'd be a top five Mr. Olympian

His offseason pics show that his strong points are chest, arms, and a very great taper with wide flaring lats.
When he comes in shape, he loses a ton of size, comes in flat, and his legs needed to be bigger

(https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1014340_596001593755714_1813465273_n.jpg?dl=1)

He says that he was over 300 pounds for this pic

Will Harris IFBB Pro
THE THING for 'A Lobo Christmas Special' TV pilot --over 300lbs off season--no fancy filter this time. Studio provided the make-up. I brought the muscle


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1523098_680578471964692_1769141545_o.jpg?dl=1)

The middle right pic chopped to hell
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2014, 06:18:37 PM
Bodybuilding is a fun sport that the whole family can enjoy.

Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
you could've drank it!
Yup.

Back when I got an abscess from using it,I had no clue that I could drink the shit.  :(
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 09:09:04 PM
you could've drank it!

Wait are you fucking with me right now?!?! Don't "Anabolichalo" me bro
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
Wait are you fucking with me right now?!?! Don't "Anabolichalo" me bro
Truth,you can ingest Winstrol orally with no repercussions.

Again,GOOGLE brother...I had no clue about this back in the day when that shit fucked me up.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
3 syringes of dark blood...that ain't shit. Try 600ml of blood and puss (so the doctor said) out of the abscess on my right glute
HAHAHA and yet you still continue to use steroids you mentally inept moron.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Mawse on January 12, 2014, 09:14:02 PM
Wait are you fucking with me right now?!?! Don't "Anabolichalo" me bro

Lawl, yes drink it! It's metabolized by the liver in virtually the same manner as an oral or filthy suspension injection
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 09:14:14 PM
Truth,you can ingest Winstrol orally with no repercussions.

Again,GOOGLE brother...I had no clue about this back in the day when that shit fucked me up.

Wtf ?!?! I will consider this......





(I can't believe I'm even considering this).....
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 09:14:56 PM
Lawl, yes drink it! It's metabolized by the liver in virtually the same manner as an oral or filthy suspension injection
Drinks are on me bro!  :D

My stuff was pharm grade though,years ago,I don`t know if I`d trust UGL stuff.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 09:16:14 PM
Drinks are on me bro!  :D

I'm going to whip up a little Winstrol Mojito (no homo) with my fajitas this evening  8)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
Wtf ?!?! I will consider this......





(I can't believe I'm even considering this).....
SEE MY POST BELOW REGARDING UGL.......as if you wouldn`t anyway! :D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 12, 2014, 09:17:10 PM
I'm going to whip up a little Winstrol Mojito (no homo) with my fajitas this evening  8)
Remember,shaken,not stirred!  ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 10:03:04 PM
Wait are you fucking with me right now?!?! Don't "Anabolichalo" me bro

yea, drink it no problem. same way you can drink (or could drink, when it was still around) Reforvit-B, injectable vet dbol... actually, I didn't know anybody who injected Reforvit B, at least not more than once. lol.. that shit burned like fuck.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: tommywishbone on January 12, 2014, 10:47:48 PM
Winstrol made me a World Champion.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 12, 2014, 10:54:52 PM
Winstrol made me a World Champion.
obviously.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: tommywishbone on January 12, 2014, 10:57:36 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 12, 2014, 11:00:48 PM
:D
even your smiley has a better hairline than a-halo
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: dyslexic on January 13, 2014, 03:45:15 AM
Every human always wants to rationalize someone's death: "This is what caused it"


That way they can rationalize again: "I don't do *that!*


Fact is: NOBODY... I mean NOBODY knows when their time is coming. What are you *really* gonna do differently?


As you get older, of course, your changes of lasting mortality decrease, but that is just common logic. I believe we call it "aging"


You are gonna die, when you are gonna die. You can blame whatever you want. Look for patterns, trends... you may find some, BUT.. that doesn't guarantee shit for you... or me.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 13, 2014, 03:48:33 AM
Wtf ?!?! I will consider this......





(I can't believe I'm even considering this).....
well you can consider it, but lol, i have done that,haha, and i swear its no good.

a frend has done it at the very same time, after few days, we both meet in the gym, both have guts blown up with air or something looking, and we both say at same moment "damn i cant take this nomore, this makes my gut explode".

brutal pains,i tell you.also bypasses the liver twice if you drink it.

and yes was legit pharma gear from that spanish pharma company.

hell never again.also, epic hair loss ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 13, 2014, 03:52:15 AM
I just stick with my creatine and whey protein.  Let's just say it works. ;)
yeah sure it works so well that you will never post a pic, "monster" ::)


mongoloid
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 13, 2014, 03:57:30 AM
well you can consider it, but lol, i have done that,haha, and i swear its no good.

a frend has done it at the very same time, after few days, we both meet in the gym, both have guts blown up with air or something looking, and we both say at same moment "damn i cant take this nomore, this makes my gut explode".

brutal pains,i tell you.also bypasses the liver twice if you drink it.

and yes was legit pharma gear from that spanish pharma company.

hell never again.also, epic hair loss ;D

The Zambon (now Desma) amps were fine to drink.
Pure stan powder... what's the problem? :D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 13, 2014, 04:01:31 AM
The Zambon (now Desma) amps were fine to drink.
Pure stan powder... what's the problem? :D
yeah desma, that was the name.

 :D

but wasnt powder,was already mixed, you know, the ones looking like milk,but tasting like industrial waste ;D ;D

dont know why, upsets the stomach too much, maybe should have eaten something before,i dont know.

frend had the same exact issue, stomy felt bloated even though was empty.

went away adfter i stopped, but the hairloss was enough for me to stop anyway. t

haha, after that i replaced it with tren and lol, grew soem nice bitchtitts ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 13, 2014, 04:09:01 AM
(http://www.angelfire.com/de3/decadurabolin/zambon.jpg)

These are how mine looked,but for some strange reason,my amps seemed to be a bit shorter and thicker than these.

Who the fuck can remember,this was back in `94 or so.   ???
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: falco on January 13, 2014, 06:01:54 AM
I have shoted these Zambon mostly in my bi's and tri's, 1ml each time 3 times a week, without any kind of issues.
Sustenon was very painfull yes either in the glutes or shoulders.
Those crappy 10ml bottles of whateverthatis always gave some sort of problems, either small infections or cysts that i carry still today.

From what i read, we should make a thread competing about who's the one who removed more blood and pus from their glutes ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hahahahahahahahahaha.

Best regards my friends!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 13, 2014, 06:13:41 AM
Wes , Gal or anyone else, ever use liquid Dianabol? If so how did you like it?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2014, 07:46:00 AM
Yup.

Back when I got an abscess from using it,I had no clue that I could drink the shit.  :(

Funny thing is TBOMBZ used to post this a few years ago.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 13, 2014, 08:12:43 AM
Wes , Gal or anyone else, ever use liquid Dianabol? If so how did you like it?
The only liquid D-Bol I ever used was the kind you take orally.

Terrible tasting stuff...felt Like I fell off the wagon......lots of BA.

Worked OK though as a bridge type of thing, as that was all I was on at that time.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 13, 2014, 08:20:36 AM
The only liquid D-Bol I ever used was the kind you take orally.

Terrible tasting stuff...felt Like I fell off the wagon......lots of BA.

Worked OK though as a bridge type of thing, as that was all I was on at that time.
Never used injectible , I got got back in the late 80's it was my favorite! I only got my hands on it once! Is it it even around anymore?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 13, 2014, 08:23:21 AM
Never used injectible , I got got back in the late 80's it was my favorite! I only got my hands on it once! Is it it even around anymore?
No I never used it,that I can recall anyway.....hard to remember at my age sometimes as far as this kind of stuff goes.

No clue if it`s still available,but I`d like to try some.

I respond really good to D-Bol tabs even at low dosages.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: tommywishbone on January 13, 2014, 09:09:54 AM
Wes , Gal or anyone else, ever use liquid Dianabol? If so how did you like it?

Shot plenty of injectable Dianabol back in the 90's.  Luckily it was always inexpensive. Average to sub par results. It never compared to oral Dianabol in my opinion.   
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: galeniko on January 13, 2014, 09:26:59 AM
Shot plenty of injectable Dianabol back in the 90's.  Luckily it was always inexpensive. Average to sub par results. It never compared to oral Dianabol in my opinion.   
yah same here.


for some reason the orals worked better.

Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 13, 2014, 10:06:44 AM
I always loved D-Bol orals! I got about the same result with the injectable, always thought it was a little  safer doing the injectable!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2014, 02:02:21 PM
I always loved D-Bol orals! I got about the same result with the injectable, always thought it was a little  safer doing the injectable!

Safer for your liver at least.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 13, 2014, 02:37:26 PM
Anyone got news on Will's latest condition??
 ???
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 13, 2014, 02:48:45 PM
Anyone got news on Will's latest condition??
 ???

Yep.. 8% bodyfat.. Abs are in, glutes not so much.. HTH?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: macos on January 13, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
Yep.. 8% bodyfat.. Abs are in, glutes not so much.. HTH?

I meant his health, schmoe head.
 ;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Wiggs on January 13, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
Yep.. 8% bodyfat.. Abs are in, glutes not so much.. HTH?

 ;D

lolol
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: tommywishbone on January 13, 2014, 03:53:13 PM
Anyone got news on Will's latest condition??
 ???

Was texting with him last night. He's absolutely fine. 
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: qwert on January 13, 2014, 04:08:49 PM
My friend just saw him at Gold's training clients. If he's got organ failure, no one has told him.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wild willie on January 13, 2014, 04:12:41 PM
typical getbig bull shit!!!!


who started this nonsense??
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wild willie on January 13, 2014, 04:13:52 PM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\
seems it was all bs...tell your friend thanks.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Emmortal on January 13, 2014, 04:16:49 PM
My friend just saw him at Gold's training clients. If he's got organ failure, no one has told him.

This.  He was in there last night training away as normal. 

Funny thread though.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: mr.turbo on January 13, 2014, 04:19:28 PM
RIP big man
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 13, 2014, 04:24:10 PM
RIP big man

PIP.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: LATS on January 13, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
Will is fine.. Yet everyone jumped on it without any proof.. Lol.. My buddy talked to hi a few days ago.. If he's sick he's the he sure hid it well he said..
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 13, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
Yep.. 8% bodyfat.. Abs are in, glutes not so much.. HTH?
Good one!  ;)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: wes on January 13, 2014, 06:29:06 PM
Wills well,well ..............what you ?? 

Glad he`s OK.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: mr.turbo on January 13, 2014, 06:31:43 PM
sorry to hear the sad news
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on January 13, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
sorry to hear the sad news

Lol.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Maddy on January 13, 2014, 06:53:54 PM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\

txt from
a friend
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Ugly on January 13, 2014, 07:01:05 PM
Good to hear he is doing all right.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: AVBG on January 13, 2014, 07:45:18 PM
typical getbig bull shit!!!!


who started this nonsense??

gh14.5
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: the Algebra Wizard on January 14, 2014, 01:50:48 AM
How old is Will now?


must be close to 700 yrs old by now ....
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: falco on January 14, 2014, 02:20:36 AM
If he is ok the gentleman who started this "prank" should have a word to say.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 14, 2014, 11:26:37 AM
(http://www.angelfire.com/de3/decadurabolin/zambon.jpg)

These are how mine looked,but for some strange reason,my amps seemed to be a bit shorter and thicker than these.

Who the fuck can remember,this was back in `94 or so.   ???
if i dont remember wrong mine  was a bit shorter and thicker to....i took 50mg eod,  and both injected and drank them. Worked fine and no problems with my stomack
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 14, 2014, 11:28:05 AM
Will is fine.. Yet everyone jumped on it without any proof.. Lol.. My buddy talked to hi a few days ago.. If he's sick he's the he sure hid it well he said..

lol nice trolling by alex
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Branchs Ears on January 14, 2014, 11:41:26 AM
This story was fishy from the beginning. Everyone knows fat Alex doesn't have any friends.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 14, 2014, 01:11:15 PM
Did Will piss off Voodoo Vince by any chance?


(http://fakeposters.com.s3.amazonaws.com/results/2013/12/11/wen2ea6be6.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: el numero uno on January 14, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Just a got a txt from a friend in Venice.

Big Will hospitalized, apparently kidney failure and liver failure.  :-\

How did I fall for this? alex23 having a friend??? I guess we're used to watch bbers get health problems so we skiped this post.  ???
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Nirvana on January 14, 2014, 08:12:32 PM
he didn'd died!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: dyslexic on January 14, 2014, 08:18:47 PM
Like... wow ~


Making jokes about people's health...


as if...


some here are ignorant enough to believe they are invincible.


Bad Ju Ju ~
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: michael arvilla on January 14, 2014, 08:31:44 PM
http://www.wikihow.com/Kill-a-Vampire (http://www.wikihow.com/Kill-a-Vampire)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 14, 2014, 09:17:05 PM
Yep.. 8% bodyfat.. Abs are in, glutes not so much.. HTH?

lolz
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Papper on January 15, 2014, 05:45:52 PM
He will live another thousand years if he stays away from garlic
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: rocco-x on January 15, 2014, 09:31:12 PM
just looked at his twitter account...he says he's just fine and these issues are all unfounded rumors.wonder if he's hiding his illness or what? i saw an interview with him a few years back to where he openly admits to being a "practicing vampire"...wft lol?!
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Rambone on January 16, 2014, 08:00:33 AM
just looked at his twitter account...he says he's just fine and these issues are all unfounded rumors.wonder if he's hiding his illness or what? i saw an interview with him a few years back to where he openly admits to being a "practicing vampire"...wft lol?!

That was during the Twilight craze of 2008. Back then, who wasn't drinking blood and jacking off to their Robert Pattinson poster? I know I was. No homo.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: mr.turbo on January 16, 2014, 10:27:01 AM
not funny to make fun of a sick or dying person

best of luck to the big man hope he pulls through
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Dr Dutch on January 16, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
400 year old vampires usually make it...
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: thebrink on January 17, 2014, 07:08:59 PM
not funny to make fun of a sick or dying person

best of luck to the big man hope he pulls through

I feel nothing.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: The Scott on January 20, 2014, 06:49:50 AM
just looked at his twitter account...he says he's just fine and these issues are all unfounded rumors.wonder if he's hiding his illness or what? i saw an interview with him a few years back to where he openly admits to being a "practicing vampire"...wft lol?!

That's just admitting to the world that he sucks.  What or who, I have no desire to know.  He's an idiot.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: willie mosconi on July 25, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
I haven't seen Will at Gold's in quite a while. Is he training clients out of a different gym? Hope all is well.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: forillagorilla on July 25, 2015, 07:42:09 PM
I'm not at all surprised. These steroid creeps judt don't learn You do steroids, you die. 

STEROIDSR4LOSERS

If you ABUSE them you are asking for trouble. Done properly they absolutely enhance life.  The problem is that most morons think it takes obscene amounts to make gains. Takes longer of course but MUCH smaller amounts than what most of even consider.. The fact is that most dumbass BB don't even know what genetic response means - much less UNDERSTAND it. Lee Priest has insane response to AAS. Just one example but you know right away.
Digress I did - point is that they can be used very intelligently
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: climber on July 25, 2015, 08:24:48 PM
Yet Lee Priest looks like a washed up old dyke these days.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: HTexan on July 25, 2015, 08:28:40 PM
http://www.wikihow.com/Kill-a-Vampire (http://www.wikihow.com/Kill-a-Vampire)
Too early
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: forillagorilla on July 25, 2015, 08:37:55 PM
Yet Lee Priest looks like a washed up old dyke these days.

Of course he doesn't look as good as you man... It's not exactly fair to compare him to a physique of your caliber - lol.. Just picking lil fella - I am sure you try
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: climber on July 25, 2015, 08:40:17 PM
Of course he doesn't look as good as you man... It's not exactly fair to compare him to a physique of your caliber - lol.. Just picking lil fella - I am sure you try

I don't even gym anymore. Just troll here. :)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: mr.turbo on July 25, 2015, 08:53:37 PM
Sorry to hear the bad news
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Schnauzer on July 25, 2015, 09:08:08 PM
400 year old vampires usually make it...


(http://syndromemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/blacula-2.png)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: musclecenter on July 25, 2015, 09:31:15 PM
Big Will looks very good & healthy last year when I meet him.


Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: mr.turbo on July 25, 2015, 10:05:28 PM
Big Will looks very good & healthy last year when I meet him.




How come he looks so small next to you? Looks like a different guy.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: musclecenter on July 25, 2015, 11:02:59 PM
How come he looks so small next to you? Looks like a different guy.
he is a big mofo.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: mr.turbo on July 25, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
he is a big mofo.

You shouldn't  stand beside him. Makes him look small.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: musclecenter on July 26, 2015, 01:05:45 AM
You shouldn't  stand beside him. Makes him look small.
i weigh 185 lbs only.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 26, 2015, 03:46:48 AM
Your lifespan will be increased by at least 10 years when the Dalai Lama of bodybuilding gives you a thumbs up..
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Slik on July 26, 2015, 03:52:01 AM
Musclecenter, glad u edited that so that I knew u didn't forget your gym bag. That would have bothered me all day.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: musclecenter on July 26, 2015, 04:58:10 AM
Musclecenter, glad u edited that so that I knew u didn't forget your gym bag. That would have bothered me all day.
;D
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: da_vinci on July 26, 2015, 10:05:55 AM
What critical condition, he's posting these g4p vids on youtube flexing his muscles ffs. Delete this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/ifbbworldharris/photos/pb.161596193862925.-2207520000.1437930312./735315266491012/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on July 26, 2015, 11:07:02 AM
What critical condition, he's posting these g4p vids on youtube flexing his muscles ffs. Delete this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/ifbbworldharris/photos/pb.161596193862925.-2207520000.1437930312./735315266491012/?type=3&theater

Link doesn't work. Not that I...clicked...it.

That would be gay. No homo  :-\
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: HTexan on July 26, 2015, 11:31:35 AM
Link doesn't work. Not that I...clicked...it.

That would be gay. No homo  :-\
Because of the gay for pay videos? Naw, that is just good straight wholesome fun.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Schnauzer on July 26, 2015, 11:34:37 AM
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/q92/s720x720/1979084_735315266491012_7247028973675398295_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on July 26, 2015, 01:00:51 PM
Link doesn't work. Not that I...clicked...it.

That would be gay. No homo  :-\
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: willie mosconi on July 26, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
What critical condition, he's posting these g4p vids on youtube flexing his muscles ffs. Delete this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/ifbbworldharris/photos/pb.161596193862925.-2207520000.1437930312./735315266491012/?type=3&theater

Perhaps I should have started a new thread. However, I work out at Gold's and haven't seen him in there in at least a month and he was always in there at all hours in the past. I was wondering if he has moved onto another gym or if his health is sound
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: da_vinci on July 26, 2015, 04:35:13 PM
Perhaps I should have started a new thread. However, I work out at Gold's and haven't seen him in there in at least a month and he was always in there at all hours in the past. I was wondering if he has moved onto another gym or if his health is sound

Just for the past month? Thread was started like a year ago, so if you saw him a few months ago - he's ok.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: HTexan on July 26, 2015, 04:43:29 PM
(http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/s306x306/e15/10963922_1460289584196000_1112855676_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: willie mosconi on July 26, 2015, 05:07:48 PM
Just for the past month? Thread was started like a year ago, so if you saw him a few months ago - he's ok.

Yes, it's been about a month. What's weird is that he was at Gold's basically every day all day until about a month ago. Oh well, if nobody knows what's up, no big deal. Was just asking
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: da_vinci on July 26, 2015, 05:24:11 PM
Yes, it's been about a month. What's weird is that he was at Gold's basically every day all day until about a month ago. Oh well, if nobody knows what's up, no big deal. Was just asking

He's most def ok if so. Thread started a year ago, you've seen him a month ago (and I guess he was jacked like always), so... probably took a g4p vacation or some shit bodybuilders usualy do.
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: HTexan on July 26, 2015, 06:46:21 PM
He's most def ok if so. Thread started a year ago, you've seen him a month ago (and I guess he was jacked like always), so... probably took a g4p vacation or some shit bodybuilders usualy do.
didn't somebody say he gets oiled up and rubs with junk and dry humps other bbers?
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: LATS on July 27, 2015, 09:05:24 AM
I love how every just excepted he is in bad health and it was gear related lol.. Another silly ass " on deaths door" rumor no one verified..
Title: Re: Will Harris in critical condition
Post by: _aj_ on July 27, 2015, 02:29:28 PM
didn't somebody say he gets oiled up and rubs with junk and dry humps other bbers?

Brotha's gotta get paid!