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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Skorp1o on March 12, 2014, 04:12:49 AM
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What is it, haven't used this in a while, what's everyones best results dose?
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What is it, haven't used this in a while, what's everyones best results dose?
depends on the brand. Human grade 30mg maybe but UGl anavar if it is even real 50 mg to start and jump it up to 80mg towards week 3.
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40mg of a generic ugl.
none of those 80 or 100 mg doses ever done a thing for me, except drain the wallet
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depends on the brand. Human grade 30mg maybe but UGl anavar if it is even real 50 mg to start and jump it up to 80mg towards week 3.
This^^^^^^^
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Followup: which UGLs have legit Anavar?
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Why even bother with anavar? Unless you get humans grade, fuck just get some winstrol tabs and tren.
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50mg work up to 100mg then taper back down
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I have a love relationship with anavar, it's an AMAZING coumpound IF you can get human grade and understand what it can do for you.
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look, 30 mg is good.
50 is bit better.
100 is too much.as in, return of benefit not worth nomore.
dont expect too much, it gives bit strenght and when you slip on the diet, the water retention wont be as brutal.
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30mg...? are u a fucking bitch?
100MG+ only its fucking ANAVAR for god sakes.
My god are all you fucking 12 year old girls???
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30mg...? are u a fucking bitch?
100MG+ only its fucking ANAVAR for god sakes.
My god are all you fucking 12 year old girls???
do you have pics of yourself?
100mg and then what?how long?
again,lets see who we talkign to.ever since the esfitnes disaster, i wont even go into dicussion wo pics,nothing personal
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I saw 25mgs of US pharma var create scary vascularity.
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do you have pics of yourself?
100mg and then what?how long?
again,lets see who we talkign to.ever since the esfitnes disaster, i wont even go into dicussion wo pics,nothing personal
Just ignore him Gal, he's just a hot air balloon Gimmick trying to get some cyber credibility
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Isnt var just way too much of a shot in the dark if it is real or not?
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My personal expereince tells me that 100mg+ is the number where things start to happen. But its a very expensive compound for what it does. Clean diet+anadrol much better than anavar ;)
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knocking back 100mg of these, probably cut with winny I bet...
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do you have pics of yourself?
100mg and then what?how long?
again,lets see who we talkign to.ever since the esfitnes disaster, i wont even go into dicussion wo pics,nothing personal
my gf takes 30mg of var...please dont make me laugh dude
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my gf takes 30mg of var...please dont make me laugh dude
What's laughable is having a gf with a deep voice and an enlarged clit.
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What's laughable is having a gf with a deep voice and an enlarged clit.
nah her voice is fine and her clit is the same size as ever. her pussy is so fucking tight too. Sorry bro :)
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nah her voice is fine and her clit is the same size as ever. her pussy is so fucking tight too. Sorry bro :)
May be something to do with her age,.
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pissant running rampant gimickry on the steroid board.
someone inform the authorities or something.
not sure if trolling or must be put on suicide watchlist
also, delusional, claims to have a gf
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30mg of anavar lollllll Most bodybuilders are taking 80mg+ of anavar
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depends on the brand. Human grade 30mg maybe but UGl anavar if it is even real 50 mg to start and jump it up to 80mg towards week 3.
Once tapered up to 80mg day, in your opinion how long should one stay there? A Non-drinker
Thinking about doing that you suggest; then mapping out the sides and adjustingthe dose.
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$80 USD/ day.
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All anavar in the market is fake
It's expensive !!!!! Real one closest would be from Mexico if you can get ...
All these insana 80-100mg day dosages lol it's shit it's not anavar it's some powder with nolva...
Real one will blow you flstarting at 20-25 mg/day
Again it's expensive ty run real var...
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To parrot everyone, human grade is the dogs bollocks. I remember getting the oxandrolone spa from italy back in the late 90's and them fuckers were amazing! I took 20 mg and felt strong as an ox in a week! And that was all i was taking at the time! I was a teen and scared of the steronz killing me in a week from liver cancer, heart disease, shrinking my cock and nuts, internal bleeding, etc. etc. ::) Point is if it is legit, it is powerful.
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Isnt var just way too much of a shot in the dark if it is real or not?
That's the issue.
I know "someone" who gets it from a dude with aids. Its real, straight from American pharmacy, oh and it WORKS.
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do you have pics of yourself?
100mg and then what?how long?
again,lets see who we talkign to.ever since the esfitnes disaster, i wont even go into dicussion wo pics,nothing personal
Gal, iv'e posted this pic before. This is after 8 weeks of anavar at 75-100 mgs a day. I probably skipped about a weeks worth of days in that time frame, but most of the days I used were at dosages of 100 mgs. Liquid anavar from a trusted source is what I used.
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Gal, iv'e posted this pic before. This is after 8 weeks of anavar at 75-100 mgs a day. I probably skipped about a weeks worth of days in that time frame, but most of the days I used were at dosages of 100 mgs. Liquid anavar from a trusted source is what I used.
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good everyday physique, easy to maintain without a lot of liquid anavar.
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If you're willing to take the risk, just buy anavar raws. 100mg/day would only be $2-3.00.
As for me, I honestly prefer tbol. Anavar gets you strong as shit and wicked pumps too, but tbol has had a better "hardening" effect for me... plus you can buy tbol as a halodrol clone and be ensured it's legit
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If you're willing to take the risk, just buy anavar raws. 100mg/day would only be $2-3.00.
As for me, I honestly prefer tbol. Anavar gets you strong as shit and wicked pumps too, but tbol has had a better "hardening" effect for me... plus you can buy tbol as a halodrol clone and be ensured it's legit
more like $.70, or $.75 if you mix with peg300 to get it dosed properly/constantly. (instead of ora-sweet/humco, or using olive oil/gso)
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more like $.70, or $.75 if you mix with peg300 to get it dosed properly/constantly. (instead of ora-sweet/humco, or using olive oil/gso)
Depending on the source, sure. I'd imagine you buy greater quantities of raws than anyone here, so you probably pay less anyways.
Point being, the best way to use anavar is at a high dose, and that's prohibitively expensive unless you buy the raw powder
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All anavar in the market is fake
It's expensive !!!!! Real one closest would be from Mexico if you can get ...
All these insana 80-100mg day dosages lol it's shit it's not anavar it's some powder with nolva...
Real one will blow you flstarting at 20-25 mg/day
Again it's expensive ty run real var...
how are people getting fooled? you can easily get a pill tested to verify it's what they claim it to be.
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Does 30 mg of winstrol emulate the gains of 50 mg anavar? Any similarities in gains/dryness?
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you know... running 200mg/day for 8 weeks will cost me $96... I can sell 2-3 30ml bottles at 20mg/ml to offset that cost.
maybe i'll give it a shot, just for shits and giggles.
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you know... running 200mg/day for 8 weeks will cost me $96... I can sell 2-3 30ml bottles at 20mg/ml to offset that cost.
maybe i'll give it a shot, just for shits and giggles.
do you have the chinese powders??
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Anybody I've ever heard that went over 100+ mg/day couldn't work out because their muscles would get a crippling pump after 2-3 warm-up sets. Your mileage may vary though
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do you have the chinese powders??
esfitness rolls only with the chinese
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esfitness rolls only with the chinese
shit from a couple European countries as well.. different manufacture, different packaging, different order/ship methods, so it's not just remailers remailing Chinese stuff, but you can take a Pepsi Challenge between those, Chinese, and us/European pharma stuff. no difference in melting points, potency (perceived effects), taste, smell, appearance, 'mixability', ect... except the European shit is 20-40% more in most cases. some guys want stuff that's not from china and I accommodate for a fee.
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oxandrolone from pharmacon - gtg ???
(http://i61.tinypic.com/10p1stz.jpg)
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The studies that showed couch potatoes gaining LBM and losing BF ... were done with 40mg doses for 3 months.
So anyone talking BS about anavar sucks at 'low doses' these trials show it otherwise.
IMO anavar is great... BUT people expect magical 'gains' that wet shit like anadrol or deca or dbol give... its not the same..
Var is magical imo, it also has studies which showcase it decreases visceral fat very well. It just works.
Every time I run it:
I lean up, I tighten up, my skin improves, my sleep improves, great strength increases, my joints/tendons/etc... all improve, no more elbow/tendonitis or other crap like that.
And the gains from it are 'clean'...
However higher dosed it can wreck BP hell I'm talking 100mg.. but that's a magical dose.
Even 40mg WILL give benefit but people won't notice it because they expect it overnight... run it 8 weeks then lets see...
I love var... and its not as expensive as ppl make it out to be, the magical expensive myth keeps it expensive. It's readily available...
Oh and var gives great pumps..
var and tbol stack very very nicely together. That with tren/mast = look granite epic cycle imo.
Strong/lean/dry/hard/full/pumped 24/7.
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shit from a couple European countries as well.. different manufacture, different packaging, different order/ship methods, so it's not just remailers remailing Chinese stuff, but you can take a Pepsi Challenge between those, Chinese, and us/European pharma stuff. no difference in melting points, potency (perceived effects), taste, smell, appearance, 'mixability', ect... except the European shit is 20-40% more in most cases. some guys want stuff that's not from china and I accommodate for a fee.
I'm sold bro. Where do I sign? ;D
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I'm sold bro. Where do I sign? ;D
haha.. I'm private.
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I have a HRT clinic that gives human grade anavar and deca...
The problem is I think he quoted me $17 / 40mgs. Basically close to $1000 for a cycle...but at least you know Iit'snot a risk of getting burned. And you can get ripped with ug masteron and tren.
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Anybody I've ever heard that went over 100+ mg/day couldn't work out because their muscles would get a crippling pump after 2-3 warm-up sets. Your mileage may vary though
I agree with this^ I would get such strong lower back pumps from a few sets of lower back extensions that I would have to lay down on the fucking gym floor...
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haha.. I'm private.
LOL
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var IMO is not ideal to run as part of your protocol, it is profitable when you are lean, especially galeniko lean. It makes no sense to run it for 4 months and more. it hardens you, swells you and brings out veins, hence run it at the end when you are 3 quarters of the way to the look you want.
50-100mg ED for 2-3 weeks would bring you more then 20-30 mg for 2 months
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Ok thanks bro.
Here the truth of it, the 750mg test is making me feel real good and making my appetite go through roof.
Now put it this way I was like 175-178 only like 2-3 months ago and since starting da test im now fucking 194lb.
I would say I am around 15-17BF but could just be a lot of bloof and water.
I want cut up hard now but this fucking appetite is killing it for me.
So what drugs can I take to compensate for shitty diet?
Should I just pop T3 and what other Orals you recommend apart from var?
You have to diet, no way around it, compounds burn fat and help suppress hunger but they are effective while dieting, not if you stuff your face.
You hear of guys saying they get shredded while eating tons but no matter how you slice it the so call ''tons'' they are eating is still way less then their body is used to because you are in a calorie deficit so take the discomfort or load yourself up with crazy and dangerous compounds that are hard on your heart and feel 10 times even more discomfort anyway.
But to be fair the best fat burner on the planet is an ECA (ephedrine caffeine aspirin) stack. It gives you tons of energy, it suppresses hunger, keeps you alert. keeps your strength in the gym and most importantly makes you burn fat.
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I disagree. ..
I live in south fl and we have a few clinics that offer deca and anavar. There are tons of guys that are ripped to shreds running down a1a by the beach from pharm grade anavar. I know there aren't dieting or genetically gifted. Real pharm grade anavar will rip you to shreds.
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I disagree. ..
I live in south fl and we have a few clinics that offer deca and anavar. There are tons of guys that are ripped to shreds running down a1a by the beach from pharm grade anavar. I know there aren't dieting or genetically gifted. Real pharm grade anavar will rip you to shreds.
well, nobody I ever met goes on var and eats ten chocolate bars daily.
Usually taking var comes with the mind set of eating clean, also var can get rid of a lot of water looking a lot leaner and harder as a result. Does it burn fat? No, not directly
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Whats the ideal dose for a women 30 years old and around 54kilos, never juiced but trains hard and wants to competr....5-10mg for 6weeks?
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I disagree. ..
I live in south fl and we have a few clinics that offer deca and anavar. There are tons of guys that are ripped to shreds running down a1a by the beach from pharm grade anavar. I know there aren't dieting or genetically gifted. Real pharm grade anavar will rip you to shreds.
Damn that's cool, but I can't imagine how they would justify prescribing anavar to a healthy male. Deca, maybe, for joint relief or something, but anavar??
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Whats the ideal dose for a women 30 years old and around 54kilos, never juiced but trains hard and wants to competr....5-10mg for 6weeks?
I would start them at 10mg daily for the first week and see how they do on the ana var before raising the dose to 20mg. woemn can handle 20mgs of Anavar pretty easily but it is def best to just try 10mg to see how the lady reacts because of course everybody does reactys diffrent. It also does depends on the quality of the anavar some anavar is very weak and 10mg wont do barely anything even on a female. If a female can get ahold of some watson USA grade Anavar (oxandrolone they shouldn't need more then 10mg) 20mg Tops!
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Damn that's cool, but I can't imagine how they would justify prescribing anavar to a healthy male. Deca, maybe, for joint relief or something, but anavar??
its still available, but prices are very high. few years back clinic I knew had 25mgs for 5 or 6 dollars.
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I would start them at 10mg daily for the first week and see how they do on the ana var before raising the dose to 20mg. woemn can handle 20mgs of Anavar pretty easily but it is def best to just try 10mg to see how the lady reacts because of course everybody does reactys diffrent. It also does depends on the quality of the anavar some anavar is very weak and 10mg wont do barely anything even on a female. If a female can get ahold of some watson USA grade Anavar (oxandrolone they shouldn't need more then 10mg) 20mg Tops!
cool thanks. One of my ex who is considering to jump on tge juice. How many weeks?
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Anavar for women not for men. Way better compounds for men than anavar leave that shit to the ladies.
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cool thanks. One of my ex who is considering to jump on tge juice. How many weeks?
If you can get high quality Anavar she shouldn;t need more then 10mg but like i said if she gets a UGL grade Anavar she might need 20mg possibly more depending if it is even real. I don't like women gambling on UGL steroids so try to get her some watson Oxandrolone or BTG Oxandrolone. If it is REAL Human grdae she can run 10 mg daily for 8 weeks.
If she has no side effects after 4 weeks she could even go up to 20mg daily for the last 4 weeks of her 8 week cycle but if she gets any side effects on 20mg a day tell her to jump back down to 10mg right away.
Female Figure competitors love to use Anavar and winstrol as a stack. Anavar is of course the best drug a women can use and Anavar is not just for girls hell if I could get real watson Anavar I would run Anavar myself. I love Anavar. I got Ip's 15mg Anavar tabs back in 2006 and they were surprisingly strong and I loved those tabs. very clean and they def make you stronger.
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Damn that's cool, but I can't imagine how they would justify prescribing anavar to a healthy male. Deca, maybe, for joint relief or something, but anavar??
I double checked the pricing for anavar with the TRT Dr in florida.
It's $12 / 25 mg capsule which would be $24 a day if you take 50 mg a day. That would be $720 for 30 days of anavar at 50 mg's. It's not cheap...but it's pharm grade Anavar.
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knocking back 100mg of these, probably cut with winny I bet...
Know for a fact those are stanz, they tested positive for only winstrol on wedinos.
A bigger problem is those are "fake" isis and the real ones come in a small platic tub with a foil seal and the logo printed on the tabs.
They've started putting leaflets warning of fakes in newer products but personally I think they're double bluffing and crying wolf on their own product to maintain legitimacy after changing the packaging on the orals.
Ugl's are so annoying.
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I double checked the pricing for anavar with the TRT Dr in florida.
It's $12 / 25 mg capsule which would be $24 a day if you take 50 mg a day. That would be $720 for 30 days of anavar at 50 mg's. It's not cheap...but it's pharm grade Anavar.
the results from 25mgs would probably be very good.
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the results from 25mgs would probably be very good.
yeah....or you could do first 4 weeks at 25mgs and last 2 weeks at 50 mg's to make it last 6 weeks. Or run 25mgs for 8 weeks. I'm not sure which would be better.
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I double checked the pricing for anavar with the TRT Dr in florida.
It's $12 / 25 mg capsule which would be $24 a day if you take 50 mg a day. That would be $720 for 30 days of anavar at 50 mg's. It's not cheap...but it's pharm grade Anavar.
lol fuck that shit, those 700$ can give you 50g of tren ace powder lol
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I double checked the pricing for anavar with the TRT Dr in florida.
It's $12 / 25 mg capsule which would be $24 a day if you take 50 mg a day. That would be $720 for 30 days of anavar at 50 mg's. It's not cheap...but it's pharm grade Anavar.
wtf :P :P
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lol fuck that shit, those 700$ can give you 50g of tren ace powder lol
ouch.. that's brutally expensive powder source. almost double what it should be.
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ouch.. that's brutally expensive powder source. almost double what it should be.
Yes.... I'd imagine it's no better than what a good UGL might provide. I thought this would be Pfizer Anavar tablets, which would be worth it at those prices.
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ouch.. that's brutally expensive powder source. almost double what it should be.
depends on the price... i was calculating in 10g increments and no shipping from china but EU based... im okay with that
obviously from china i can get 100g tren for 800-ish $$, but theres an extra risk and im not a seller, just using the stuff for myself so trying to stay safe.
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100mg a day if you can afford it. Any more is subject to diminishing returns for what is possibly an unacceptable increase in liver toxicity.
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I wonder when shipping if these ppl can label it as creatine monohydrates (powders) as long as ur not exceeding like a kilo
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I wonder when shipping if these ppl can label it as creatine monohydrates (powders) as long as ur not exceeding like a kilo
sure but who buys creatine from china honestly lol
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wtf :P :P
Yeah it's expensive but it'shuman grade with a prescription. He did say that with referals he will drop the price each time a rreferral signs up for a protocol.
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I wonder when shipping if these ppl can label it as creatine monohydrates (powders) as long as ur not exceeding like a kilo
without giving specifics, that's sorta how it works.
and when getting kg's.. you usually get multiple packs in less than 700g total.. so if you're getting 500g of one thing, 500 of another, a kg of another and a kg of another, you end up getting 6-8 packages.
very rarely will you get a whole kg in a package.. #1 it increases your risk of getting one caught, and #2 if it does get caught, you're not out the entire order and the other's that get through will be more than enough to stay in biz.
all in all, the odds of pwder getting snagged are exceptionally low, considering it's not something dogs smell for.. and if they do get snagged, it's usually the shippers fault due to shitty shipping/packaging practice and they'll re-ship.. hopefully to a different address incase you're flagged for a while.... and if you're getting kg's, it's nothing to rent another apt as a drop and eat the 600-700/month as a cost of doing business.
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Eh a few months ago I had a china order for ghrp2 and mod-grf snagged by customs.. 20 vials... kinda been avoiding risking ordering anything international since.. wasn't a lot of money since this stuff is dirt cheap from china (compare to local 'research chem sites'), but ... makes me wonder if i should risk ordering again to my address.
Didn't get no letter, just tracking said in customs lol..
Cause po boxes/mailboxes they still have ur address right? I never opened one so im not sure.
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Eh a few months ago I had a china order for ghrp2 and mod-grf snagged by customs.. 20 vials... kinda been avoiding risking ordering anything international since.. wasn't a lot of money since this stuff is dirt cheap from china (compare to local 'research chem sites'), but ... makes me wonder if i should risk ordering again to my address.
Didn't get no letter, just tracking said in customs lol..
Cause po boxes/mailboxes they still have ur address right? I never opened one so im not sure.
yea but that's vials coming from china.. powder is different.
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So generally speaking I should be good to go to order some raw powder 500g and get it labeled as creatine mono?
I would get var, methyltrienolone, sdrol and shit like that like that if I could. LoL would be interesting trying to dose 500mcg of methyltrienolone, wouldn't wanna f that up.
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So generally speaking I should be good to go to order some raw powder 500g and get it labeled as creatine mono?
I would get var, methyltrienolone, sdrol and shit like that like that if I could. LoL would be interesting trying to dose 500mcg of methyltrienolone, wouldn't wanna f that up.
it'd be best to use peg300 and not Orasweet or 190proof alcohol with the MT. you'd want a solution, not a suspension since you're dealing with mcg's. just make it at 10mg/ml or whatever and dilute it till you get 1/2mg per ml (500mcg).
500g of var and superdrol would cost you about $3k. lol along with a couple g's of MT. 2g of MT will give you 133 bottles (30cc bottles) at 500mcg/ml. enough for a couple months maybe. lol (actually about 11yrs straight at 500mcg/day... of course you'd probably contract prostate cancer and be dead by year 4, so make out your will and leave the rest to your training partner so he can sell it to pay for the funeral. haha)
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okay now back to topics ;D
do you really need to go over 50mg/day if you're under 200lbs after a cut?
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okay now back to topics ;D
do you really need to go over 50mg/day if you're under 200lbs after a cut?
I wouldnt' consider using anything less than 50... actually I wouldn't consider using less than 100mg/day.
perhaps you ccould get by with 50mg/day if you used tren along with it.
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What about
200mg test cyp per week
50 mg's anavar human grade
300mgs masteron
will this be a good cutting cycle to harden, lean l, and dry out?
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What about
200mg test cyp per week
50 mg's anavar human grade
300mgs masteron
will this be a good cutting cycle to harden, lean l, and dry out?
it'd be cheaper and more effective to run 200 test cyp and 500 tren enanthate per week (or even 300 or 400mg).
you can 'cut' on test, deca, and dbol. of course you'll have water renention to think about, but 'cutting' is just retaining muscle while decreasing bodyfat.. nothing more. all the steroids are doing is maintaining the muscle you already have while in a kcal deficit.
granted, there are exceptions and some drugs work better than others. i.e. with tren, you can still have a surplus of kcals and change your body composition drastically..... also, with var, there's studies that show (or say?) it targets abdominal fat for oxidation... what whatever.
for a cheap and effective "cutting" cycle, my priorities would be 1-test, 2-tren, 3-mast, 4 & 5 anavar and anadrol being equal. I prefer anadrol, as it gives a fuller, harder look (and despite what the steroid profile-sites say, doesn't retain water in my experience.. with me or with clients).
just cut kcal, keep adequate protein, and have enough androgens in bloodstream to sustain muscle mass... pretty simple
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slightly related, i'm currently running
250mg test
400mg tren ace
a week, in about 6 weeks i was going to switch over to
300mg test
70mg anavar a day
what can i expect in terms of strength loss\hardness loss? i've never run anavar but i can imagine anything much less an oral being close to the hardness\strength of tren
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without giving specifics, that's sorta how it works.
and when getting kg's.. you usually get multiple packs in less than 700g total.. so if you're getting 500g of one thing, 500 of another, a kg of another and a kg of another, you end up getting 6-8 packages.
very rarely will you get a whole kg in a package.. #1 it increases your risk of getting one caught, and #2 if it does get caught, you're not out the entire order and the other's that get through will be more than enough to stay in biz.
all in all, the odds of pwder getting snagged are exceptionally low, considering it's not something dogs smell for.. and if they do get snagged, it's usually the shippers fault due to shitty shipping/packaging practice and they'll re-ship.. hopefully to a different address incase you're flagged for a while.... and if you're getting kg's, it's nothing to rent another apt as a drop and eat the 600-700/month as a cost of doing business.
i wonder if they ever trained dogs to sniff for gear if they would be all diesel from sniffing the powdered gear.
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slightly related, i'm currently running
250mg test
400mg tren ace
a week, in about 6 weeks i was going to switch over to
300mg test
70mg anavar a day
what can i expect in terms of strength loss\hardness loss? i've never run anavar but i can imagine anything much less an oral being close to the hardness\strength of tren
actually adding the anavar in the switch will allow for the change not to be to dramatic, assuming the var is proper
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knocking back 100mg of these, probably cut with winny I bet...
Its stanozolol mate.
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just a slight bump, did we come up for a consensus for an ideal dost for pharma grade anavar? i've got an hiv positive friend who's got a few extra bottles of par pharmaceutical anavar to offload
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just a slight bump, did we come up for a consensus for an ideal dost for pharma grade anavar? i've got an hiv positive friend who's got a few extra bottles of par pharmaceutical anavar to offload
I want friends with HIV too!
Maybe I should stop wearing a condom.
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I want friends with HIV too!
Maybe I should stop wearing a condom.
move to nyc, san fran or wherever gays are
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just a slight bump, did we come up for a consensus for an ideal dost for pharma grade anavar? i've got an hiv positive friend who's got a few extra bottles of par pharmaceutical anavar to offload
Buy it. Seriously.
20 to 60 mgs per day, along with 200 to 500 mgs per week of test or eq.
You're welcome.
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All anavar in the market is fake
It's expensive !!!!! Real one closest would be from Mexico if you can get ...
All these insana 80-100mg day dosages lol it's shit it's not anavar it's some powder with nolva...
Real one will blow you flstarting at 20-25 mg/day
Again it's expensive ty run real var...
Truth. First time I did anavar was so long ago I don't want to say but I got stupid strong on just 20mg. a day. Haven't been able to get any legit stuff since. If you're using 100mg it is something else.
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I haven’t run anything in 6 years, but if I’ve been tempted to take some of this.
Maybe down the line, but we’ll see.
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The first steroid I took was US pharma grade anavar. 20mg a day of this stuff was remarkable, I got hard and ripped. Underground lab stuff, is it even worth it...I have taken 100mg a day and very little results. A good brand of oral winstrol has much more bang for buck.