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Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« on: February 13, 2008, 08:30:13 AM »

This question could probably be included in the baseball thread, but please explain to me why HGH is being labeled as a 'dangerous drug' by those involved in the MLB witch hunt.

I'm especially concerned by the fact that the medical community promotes the benefits of HGH use in middle-aged and older Americans, but then Congress and the media declare it is somehow 'dangerous' for people in their athletic prime.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

Please advise.   


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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 08:38:12 AM »
Used in high doses it can cause a lot of water retention = High BP

It can also mess with the bodies insulin sensitivity = possibly make you Type II Diabetic,but would be very rare.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 08:51:41 AM »
Used in high doses it can cause a lot of water retention = High BP

It can also mess with the bodies insulin sensitivity = possibly make you Type II Diabetic,but would be very rare.

smoking is also known to be very bad for your health, and results in numerous serious health issues...

yet, they are legal
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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 08:54:45 AM »

they have to lie about the dangers of it, so it will get the same rep as aas and be viewed as public enemy #1.  personally these idiot congressmen should be focusing on the economy and not gear, gh doesnt make people throw 100mph fastballs.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 08:57:02 AM »
smoking is also known to be very bad for your health, and results in numerous serious health issues...

yet, they are legal

But we are NOT talking about Smoking, why are you so interested to always point out the danger of other drugs we well
know and deny the obvious dangers of Steroids?
Doesn't make you look very smart Champ ::)

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 08:57:33 AM »
hgh wakes up sleeping tumors and can cause cancers to spread faster.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 08:59:08 AM »
hgh wakes up sleeping tumors and can cause cancers to spread faster.

hahah now there is a danger, gj DK

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 08:59:35 AM »
hgh wakes up sleeping tumors and can cause cancers to spread faster.

basically what he said

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 09:11:01 AM »
hgh wakes up sleeping tumors and can cause cancers to spread faster.

Right, it's true that cancer may spread faster (didn't realize that it woke up tumors, but that makes senes), but that's a reasonable trade-off that most people would take.  Obviously, if someone knows they've got cancer, they're not going to use HGH, but for someone who is cancer- or tumor-free, what's the harm in moderate use? 


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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 09:22:05 AM »
hgh wakes up sleeping tumors and can cause cancers to spread faster.

please provide a reference in a scientific or medical journal

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 09:26:34 AM »
smoking is also known to be very bad for your health, and results in numerous serious health issues...

yet, they are legal

If tobacco was developed into a recreational product within the past 10-20 years and not hundreds of years ago, I have no doubt it would be illegal.  But you can't just take away something that about 1/5 of all adults are addicted to and expect them to just be cool about it.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 09:28:07 AM »
why can't people just get old? who gives a fuck.
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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 09:31:15 AM »
Used in high doses it can cause a lot of water retention = High BP

It can also mess with the bodies insulin sensitivity = possibly make you Type II Diabetic,but would be very rare.

water retention even in the highest dosages is minimal.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 09:39:40 AM »
This question could probably be included in the baseball thread, but please explain to me why HGH is being labeled as a 'dangerous drug' by those involved in the MLB witch hunt.

I'm especially concerned by the fact that the medical community promotes the benefits of HGH use in middle-aged and older Americans, but then Congress and the media declare it is somehow 'dangerous' for people in their athletic prime.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

Please advise.   



Only a certain part of the medical community promotes the use of HGH, and mainly proffesionals that are liasons to anti-aging clinics and the such. The same goes for testosterone treatments,; recent meta-studies show that a lot of previous research has been biased because all subjects that were in some risk category or another were omitted from the trials. 

It's still to early to tell about the risks/benefits of hormone treatment in elderly.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 10:11:53 AM »
Ever consider what would happen if the medical community or government admitted that it promoted youth and anti-aging?  Then, if more people took it and the average life span increased by even a few years the financial effect on many of the entitlement programs would be devastating; especially social security.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2008, 10:24:39 AM »
Maybe hgh link F---ing amazing aesthetic body?

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2008, 10:25:06 AM »
This question could probably be included in the baseball thread, but please explain to me why HGH is being labeled as a 'dangerous drug' by those involved in the MLB witch hunt.

I'm especially concerned by the fact that the medical community promotes the benefits of HGH use in middle-aged and older Americans, but then Congress and the media declare it is somehow 'dangerous' for people in their athletic prime.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

Please advise.   


That's just it brother. Its NOT dangerous. But like any other good thing if you take way way way to much of it instead of a sensible theraputic dose, you will have health complications from it. You know the old saying, drink 5 beers you catch a buzz, drink a whole 2-4 and your going to the hospital with alcohol poisoning.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2008, 10:36:18 AM »
any drug can be abused.   and some people certainly have abused GH, but I don't think anyone has died from GH abuse.   insulin and diuretics are much more dangerous.   many bodybuilders have died from these.

but there is a better reason for bodybuilders not to use gh and insulin:  they create ugly physiques.  they destroy any sense of symmetry and proportionality.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2008, 10:57:25 AM »
Ever consider what would happen if the medical community or government admitted that it promoted youth and anti-aging?  Then, if more people took it and the average life span increased by even a few years the financial effect on many of the entitlement programs would be devastating; especially social security.
There's no proof it increases life span. It might do the opposite. So why should the govt "admit" it increases life span?

Perceived quality of life is another matter.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2008, 10:57:27 AM »
When is congress going to call Kamali to testify on his HGH use?

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2008, 11:07:43 AM »
hgh wakes up sleeping tumors and can cause cancers to spread faster.
No, it does not wake up sleeping tumors...you either have a tumor or you do not, no in between.

What it does do is it increases cell growth, therefore if you have a tumor it will speed up the cells of the tumors growth.

So in essence it does not cause the tumor to turn into cancer or what not, this was going to happen anyway. But yes, it may indeed speed up the process.
Ever consider what would happen if the medical community or government admitted that it promoted youth and anti-aging?  Then, if more people took it and the average life span increased by even a few years the financial effect on many of the entitlement programs would be devastating; especially social security.
Social security is on a dead path either way...regardless of drugs like HGH. What it would do if they admitted the benefits of such drugs is that it would have a huge impact on the pharmaceutical industry...but only in the short run.

Think about it, if drugs were introduced to the public that would in fact improve quality of life, make them feel better, age slower, have a better sense of well being, then there would be less of a need for other meds...particularly antidepressants which is a huge part of what has made the pockets so deep in the pharmaceutical world. In turn, this takes money out of the pockets of those in government, since the pharmaceutical industry has such a large base of lobbyist who pump in unreal amounts of money to government officials.

Last off, the reason I say the damage to the pharmacy world would only be short term is because of the initial fall out it would cause...less money being spent on drugs being used now. However, once other means were provided, they would easily be able to make up the difference, but it would take time. No way they are going to give into this any time soon, and it's a shame IMO.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2008, 11:13:44 AM »
too much gh makes one ugly like palumbo

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2008, 11:29:49 AM »
AJ hit the nail on the head.  This whole witch hunt is being run by the pharmaceutical companies who have politicians deep in their pockets.

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2008, 11:39:01 AM »
First off, you're heart and organs grow along with you're muscle.  Many GH users have enlarged hearts.  Also, you're forehead and extremities grow.  Everything except you're schlong.
Most are all show no go!

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Re: Serious question: Why is HGH use 'dangerous'?
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2008, 11:46:01 AM »
Politician's need to justify their jobs so they do so by picking something that the public can perceive as dangerous. Doesn't matter of it is or not. Then they can get reelected. They are the good guys and they are saving lives.