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i think that i might be training too hard
« on: March 24, 2024, 02:01:54 PM »
at the end of this vid he says if you are training in the 5-8 rep range train to one rep shy of failure ie. 1 rep in reserve, he says 3-4 reps in reserve is not good

he also says don't train past failure with drop sets or partials

i train this way all the fucking time

but he says if you train with high reps ie,. 15-30 then you can go to failure

hmmmmmm....


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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2024, 02:45:01 PM »
one things for sure

You certainly are wasting your time...

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2024, 02:46:07 PM »
Just train. Stop watching 100 different people cause you will be going crazy trying to figure it out. Just do what feels right. Find your own groove.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2024, 02:59:34 PM »
dj doesn't train back or legs but he might be "training too hard".  Jesus fuckin Christ.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2024, 03:04:28 PM »
dj doesn't train back or legs but he might be "training too hard".  Jesus fuckin Christ.
did he do a 17th set on biceps?

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2024, 03:05:09 PM »
Just train. Stop watching 100 different people cause you will be going crazy trying to figure it out. Just do what feels right. Find your own groove.

good point bro

this dude says.... VOLUME IS KING

i'm am doing very high volume on bis and tris and quite a but lower volume on pecs, delts and lats, so we will see what da fuck happens

if he is right i will add more size on my arms


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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2024, 03:05:44 PM »
You're not training too hard, you're training too 'tard
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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2024, 03:06:52 PM »
good point bro

this dude says.... VOLUME IS KING


i'm am doing very high volume on bis and tris and quite a but lower volume on pecs, delts and lats, so we will see what a fuck happens

if he is right i will add more size on my arms



dj is now officially worse than Brian

write "good point" about watching to many videos and then quotes another video

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2024, 03:11:39 PM »
you are probably overtraining your chest,shoulders and arms as that is all you do. Your back will look pathetic onstage and your legs.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2024, 03:13:21 PM »
you are probably overtraining your chest,shoulders and arms as that is all you do. Your back will look pathetic onstage and your legs.
hes way too fucking ugly for a board shorts guy, you get judged on looks as well

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2024, 03:19:19 PM »
You're not training too hard, you're training too 'tard

and yet i keep making strong and steady progress

since i started this diet i have...

ADDED ONE FULL INCH TO MY SHOULDERS AND MY PECS

AND HAVE SLASHED ONE AND A HALF INCHES OFF OF MY WASIT

 :-* :-* :-*

now my arms will add one half to one full inch

done deal bro it will come to fruition


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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2024, 03:20:48 PM »
and yet i keep making strong and steady progress

since i started this diet i have...

ADDED ONE FULL INCH TO MY SHOULDERS AND MY PECS

AND HAVE SLASHED ONE AND A HALF INCHES OFF OF MY WASIT

 :-* :-* :-*

now my arms will add one half to one full inch

done deal bro it will come to fruition

goes on cycle blows up, thinks its real gains

Will be a soft sloppy 155 in 6 weeks

Hes dumber than Brian

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2024, 03:24:34 PM »
at the end of this vid he says if you are training in the 5-8 rep range train to one rep shy of failure ie. 1 rep in reserve, he says 3-4 reps in reserve is not good

he also says don't train past failure with drop sets or partials

i train this way all the fucking time

but he says if you train with high reps ie,. 15-30 then you can go to failure

hmmmmmm....



Have you thought about taking up video games?

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2024, 03:27:07 PM »
Have you thought about taking up video games?
he thinks a lot about taking it up the arse.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2024, 03:46:02 PM »
good point bro

this dude says.... VOLUME IS KING

i'm am doing very high volume on bis and tris and quite a but lower volume on pecs, delts and lats, so we will see what da fuck happens

if he is right i will add more size on my arms


If you are primarily after hypertrophy then you need volume- on average 5 sets about twice a week for each movement. So that's 10 sets a week for biceps, for example. If you do 20, 30 or more sets the research shows there isn't a whole lot more gain- meaning there is an optimum amount you can do for 90% of the results. If you feel like doing more then do whatever floats your boat.

Every weight trainer has an opinion on this but the difference between strength and hypertrophic training is real.

https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/VolumeHypertrophy.html
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27433992/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30153194/



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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2024, 04:04:38 PM »
I could go on a huge rant about the pretty silly RIR training (it depends on context). Who doesn't do curls or pushdowns to approximate failure? Avoiding failure on small movements like this - you're going nowhere pretty much.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2024, 05:31:06 PM »
at the end of this vid he says if you are training in the 5-8 rep range train to one rep shy of failure ie. 1 rep in reserve, he says 3-4 reps in reserve is not good

he also says don't train past failure with drop sets or partials

i train this way all the fucking time

but he says if you train with high reps ie,. 15-30 then you can go to failure

hmmmmmm....


YOU KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT TRAINING!

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2024, 05:44:27 PM »
you are probably overtraining your chest,shoulders and arms as that is all you do. Your back will look pathetic onstage and your legs.

Decent gym build for a 51 year old guy, but if he posted a full body shot in classic posing trunks (or even board shorts) he'd never post again. 

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2024, 07:01:59 PM »
Jeff Everson said, "Until pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder."  He wrote two articles on that topic. He basically said you have guys that are dumb as rocks that are good bodybuilders and you have guys that claim to be exercise scientists that aren't good bodybuilders.

Dave Draper use to say in effect the more he read about exercise the more he shrugged his shoulders.


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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2024, 07:08:48 PM »
Jeff Everson said, "Until pigs fly you don't have to be a scientist to be a bodybuilder."  He wrote two articles on that topic. He basically said you have guys that are dumb as rocks that are good bodybuilders and you have guys that claim to be exercise scientists that aren't good bodybuilders.

Dave Draper use to say in effect the more he read about exercise the more he shrugged his shoulders.
And Jeff was a combination of both very well read and bodybuilding with decent genetics but he had to work for every gain. He wasn’t the greatest shaped or the greater structured guy, but did a lot with it through exercise, eating drugs, etc. he was more getting caught Cory to be a champion. He later on did better as he got older.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2024, 09:49:25 PM »
Just train. Stop watching 100 different people cause you will be going crazy trying to figure it out. Just do what feels right. Find your own groove.

He can’t stop man. DJ is one of the most insecure men I’ve ever seen. He projects totally false confidence, because he has zero self respect.

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2024, 11:55:22 PM »
52 year old man still trying to figure out the basics of training and nutrition  ???


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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2024, 12:29:12 AM »
I could go on a huge rant about the pretty silly RIR training (it depends on context). Who doesn't do curls or pushdowns to approximate failure? Avoiding failure on small movements like this - you're going nowhere pretty much.

the second guy said volume is king and the more volume you do the better so i will find out which is better as i am using volume of bis and tris (bout 40 high rep failure sets per week training then twice a week) vs much lower volume on delts, pecs and lats (bout 6 failure sets per week training them once per week)

time will tell and i will have good data

this dude says high high volume on arms he got very good arms


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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2024, 12:37:45 AM »
the second guy said volume is king and the more volume you do the better so i will find out which is better as i am using volume of bis and tris (bout 40 high rep failure sets per week training then twice a week) vs much lower volume on delts, pecs and lats (bout 6 failure sets per week training them once per week)

time will tell and i will have good data

this dude says high high volume on arms he got very good arms



I don't know if you got or believe my point in that high volume training can bump up measurements due to temporary swelling due to inflammation, it can be significant. I really don't think someone does not grow because of insufficient volume. I firmly believe a Dorian type volume is ideal in most cases. One good "honest set" (a term I believe Gironda used) per exercise is as good as it gets. Maybe 2 sets sometimes. Yates got so much right, not that he was the originator of this HIT idea. I'm not saying I'm the arbitrator of "truth," but it's my opinion based on 25-30 years of training and observation  :)

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Re: i think that i might be training too hard
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2024, 12:43:23 AM »
I don't know if you got or believe my point in that high volume training can bump up measurements due to temporary swelling due to inflammation, it can be significant. I really don't think someone does not grow because of insufficient volume. I firmly believe a Dorian type volume is ideal in most cases. One good "honest set" (a term I believe Gironda used) per exercise is as good as it gets. Maybe 2 sets sometimes. Yates got so much right, not that he was the originator of this HIT idea. I'm not saying I'm the arbitrator of "truth," but it's my opinion based on 25-30 years of training and observation  :)

i almost have to train to failure being influnced by AJ and mentzer and i think one is a little fucking pussy of they dont push to failure and even beyond failure

they say hyprthropy rep ranges are from 5 to 30 reps and i believe this

on arms i will be doing 20-30 reps and on lats, pecs and delts 6-10 reps