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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #175 on: May 20, 2013, 04:33:23 PM »
no one gave a shit about gun control either didnt stop you yahoos...at least this is of consequence.

yep, no one except about 90% of the public and a more than a super majority of gun owners and NRA members

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #176 on: May 20, 2013, 04:39:18 PM »
yep, no one except about 90% of the public and a more than a super majority of gun owners and NRA members
simply b/c they had an opinion on the matter when asked doesnt mean they gave a shit, less than 4% thought it was an important issue.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #177 on: May 20, 2013, 04:42:34 PM »
simply b/c they had an opinion on the matter when asked doesnt mean they gave a shit, less than 4% thought it was an important issue.

many many different polls show that ~ 90% of the public supported more background checks

I guess if we're going to pretend that 90% of those who wanted more background checks also didn't give a shit then they must not give a shit about the current back of scandals since nowhere near 90% of the public think any of them are important

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #178 on: May 20, 2013, 06:38:42 PM »

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/05/20/everyone-at-the-white-house-knew-about-the-irs-scandal-except-the-president/#.UZqoc8hreDc.facebook

By: John Hayward 
5/20/2013 05:58 PM



The most laughable spin yet poured out of the Administration today, in the wake of revelations that the top White House lawyer knew about the incoming IRS scandal nearly a month ago.  From the Wall Street Journal:
 

In the week of April 22, the Office of the White House Counsel and its head, Kathryn Ruemmler, were told by Treasury Department attorneys that an inspector general’s report was nearing completion, the White House official said. In that conversation, Ms. Ruemmler learned that “a small number of line IRS employees had improperly scrutinized certain…organizations by using words like ‘tea party’ and ‘patriot,’ ” the official said.
 
President Barack Obama said last week he learned about the controversy at the same time as the public, on May 10, when an IRS official revealed it to a conference of lawyers. The president’s statement drew criticism, focusing attention on his management style and whether he has kept himself sufficiently informed about the agencies under his authority.
 
Others, including veterans of previous scandals, said the counsel—whose role is to advise the president on all legal matters concerning his job and the White House—was right to avoid telling Mr. Obama about the audit’s early findings. Doing so could have caused a new storm by creating the appearance of meddling in an independent investigation that hadn’t yet concluded, former officials said.
 
Whoever these “others” are, they’re hilarious.  This would be the same President who swooped in to save Attorney General Eric Holder from the Fast and Furious investigation with a timely claim of executive privilege, right?
 
Anyone who understood the mega-tonnage of that IG report could see that informing the President was far more sensible, and useful to the nation, than making him look like a fool.  It doesn’t seem to have occurred to Obama’s defenders that they’re once again putting his personal political viability above the needs of the country.  What kind of “leader” is more concerned about avoiding “the appearance of meddling” than dealing with a shocking abuse of power, and coming to the aid of its victims?  Sorry, IRS victims, you’re on your own; the White House has Obama’s image to consider.
 
By the time these revelations boiled into the White House press room, spokesman Jay Carney was reduced to claiming the entire White House senior staff knew about the IRS scandal, but they deliberately kept the President in the dark, leaving him to learn about it by reading the newspapers last Friday:
 


Give credit where it’s due: you don’t normally see absurdity pushed this hard with a straight face by anyone who isn’t dressed like a clown and threatening Batman.
 
There are dark suspicions Obama knew what was going on at the IRS much longer than a month ago.  According to Jeffrey Lord at the American Spectator, it might have been as long ago as March 2010:
 

According to the White House Visitors Log, provided here in searchable form by U.S. News and World Report, the president of the anti-Tea Party National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley, visited the White House at 12:30pm that Wednesday noon time of March 31st.
 
The White House lists the IRS union leader’s visit this way:
 
Kelley, Colleen Potus 03/31/2010 12:30
 
In White House language, “POTUS” stands for “President of the United States.”
 
The very next day after her White House meeting with the President, according to the Treasury Department’s Inspector General’s Report, IRS employees — the same employees who belong to the NTEU — set to work in earnest targeting the Tea Party and conservative groups around America. The IG report wrote it up this way:
 
April 1-2, 2010: The new Acting Manager, Technical Unit, suggested the need for a Sensitive Case Report on the Tea Party cases. The Determinations Unit Program Manager Agreed.
 
In short: the very day after the president of the quite publicly anti-Tea Party labor union — the union for IRS employees — met with President Obama, the manager of the IRS “Determinations Unit Program agreed” to open a “Sensitive Case report on the Tea party cases.” As stated by the IG report.
 
It’s all circumstantial, of course.  There’s a lot of circumstance at the White House these days.  It’s apparently a renewable resource.
 
Let’s be charitable and assume the President wasn’t directly involved in launching this outrage, back in 2010.  Let’s further grant, for the sake of argument, that the rest of the Administration was as clueless as the IRS hierarchy claims to be… until late last month.  With weeks of advance notice, the White House couldn’t come up with a better response than what we’ve seen so far?  They couldn’t shake some of these bureaucrats by the lapels and get some facts out of them?  It’s chilling to think that President Obama’s “I learned about it from the news, like everybody else” routine is the best they could come up with.  It’s insulting that they were so confident the American public would swallow it.  This is the final, ridiculous stage of the effort to separate Obama from the actions of his Administration, maintaining his personal popularity at the expense of our national political sanity.


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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #179 on: May 20, 2013, 08:44:56 PM »
Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses

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Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses

Posted By Charles C. Johnson On 1:44 PM 05/20/2013 In Politics | No Comments


The “charity” run by President Barack Obama’s half-brother that was fast-tracked for IRS tax-exempt status is based at a Virginia UPS store, according to its website.
 
The organization’s IRS filings list another Virginia address that is actually a drug rehab center where the foundation does not appear ever to have been based.
 
The Barack H. Obama Foundation is run by Abon’go “Roy” Malik Obama, the half-brother of Barack Obama.
 
As first reported by The Daily Caller, the foundation was speedily approved for IRS exemption by Lois Lerner, the IRS senior official at the center of the targeting of conservative organizations that have waited over two years to receive tax exempt status. (RELATED: IRS official Lerner speedily approved exemption for Obama brother’s ‘charity’)
 
The charity was even given retroactive tax-exempt status despite never having bothered to apply for it. And its history of soliciting donations before receiving tax-exempt status was apparently overlooked.
 
The address listed on the site barackhobamafoundation.o rg is 107 S. West St. #401, Alexandria, Va., which houses a UPS store on a street that includes a tailor, a Catholic Charities thrift shop and a Gold Works jewelry store.
 
“They probably just rent a mailbox here or receive mail here,” said a UPS employee when asked if the store was the address for the Barack H. Obama Foundation. She did not know if Malik Obama, who his website says divides his time between Kenya and Virginia, had been in to the store.
 
A visit to the UPS store revealed that there is a mailbox numbered 401.
 


The address listed in the group’s IRS filings — 4201 Wilson Blvd. Ste 110-152, Arlington, Va. 22030 — is even more suspicious, as it is a marketing center for A Better Today Recovery Services — a drug-and-alcohol treatment organization.
 
A receptionist who answered the phone at A Better Today said neither she nor anybody in the office had heard of the Barack H. Obama Foundation. She said A Better Today had been located at the Arlington address for “a couple years.” The IRS filings that list the Arlington address as the foundation’s headquarters were dated May 2011.
 
“I don’t know if it’s listed wrong or what’s going on, but we have never heard of that,” the receptionist said, adding that A Better Today had never received calls or correspondence related to the Barack H. Foundation.
 
Although the future president’s 1995 book “Dreams From My Father” depicted the foundation’s namesake, Barack H. Obama, Sr., as a heavy drinker who lost both legs in a car accident, the foundation does not appear to take any interest in addiction treatment.
 
The foundation’s mission statement is “to provide people everywhere with resources to uplift their welfare and living standards in memory of Barack H. Obama: in the region of his birth, Kenya, and beyond.”
 
Its guiding principle is “the inherent belief that no one can truly enjoy the riches he has reaped if his neighbor suffers. … We seek to elevate the human condition so that everyone can live in dignity and truly enjoy having one another as neighbors.”
 
Despite raising more than $250,000, the alleged charity doesn’t seem to have done much. Its website claims the organization has built a madrassa and was building an imam’s house as well as some “proposed latrines,” but there is no other evidence that the nonprofit was working to “mitigate social-shortcomings in areas of education and literacy, health and well-being, poverty, and lack of community infrastructure in such basic needs such as water, electricity, shelter and sustenance,” as the site says.
 
Alton Ray Baysden, a former Department of State employee and registered Republican who helped to start the foundation, declined to comment before seeing copies of this reporter’s passport and government ID, along with a description of the article’s “motivation” and “slant.”
 
Repeated phone calls to the Barack H. Foundation went to the organization’s voicemail and were not returned.
 
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #180 on: May 21, 2013, 05:23:13 AM »
IRS targeted conservative college interns

Posted By Patrick Howley On 10:36 PM 05/20/2013 In Politics | No Comments


The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) demanded information about conservative groups’ college-aged interns, prompting outrage from one of the country’s top conservative activist organizations and leading one former intern to wonder whether his family’s pizza parlor would be endangered.
 
The IRS requested, in an audit, the names of the conservative Leadership Institute’s 2008 interns, as well as specific information about their internship work and where the interns were employed in 2012, according to a document request the IRS sent to the Leadership Institute, dated February 14, 2012.
 
The IRS requested:
 
“Copies of applications for internships and summer programs; to include: lists of those selected for internships and students in 2008.
 – In regards to such internships, please provide information regarding where the interns physically worked and how the placement was arranged.
 – After completing internships and courses, where were the students and interns employed?”
 
The Arlington, Virginia-based Leadership Institute is a conservative activist training organization founded in 1979 by Virginia Republican National Committeeman Morton C. Blackwell, the youngest elected delegate to the 1964 Republican convention that nominated Barry Goldwater. The institute was audited in 2011. As The Daily Caller has reported, at least two different IRS offices made a concerted effort to obtain the group’s training materials.
 
The Leadership Institute’s audit, which was conducted by the IRS’ Baltimore office and which ended with no determination of wrongdoing but cost the conservative group $50,000 in legal fees, only covered the year 2008, leading employees to speculate that the IRS’ primary interest was figuring out how the group operates during a presidential election year.
 
“They were very interested in seeing what conservative organizations were doing in 2008, and where the interns from 2008 were now employed,” Leadership Institute vice president of programs David Fenner told the Daily Caller, adding that he “absolutely” believed the IRS audited information from 2008 because it was an election year.
 
“We declined to give them the names” of former interns, Fenner said.
 
“When you’re audited, you’re not told why you’re being audited. So the first round of questions are pretty basic and general. In the subsequent rounds they asked invasive questions. Those are the questions we declined to answer. It’s none of their business, and it’s not part of a legitimate audit,” Fenner said.
 
“It has the feel of a watch list,” Fenner added.
 
2008 Leadership Institute intern Shane McGonigal, who is now a Leadership Institute regional field coordinator, said that he feared his family’s pizza parlor could be jeopardized by the IRS’ audit.
 
“It didn’t just affect me, it affected my family too,” McGonigal, who was a 21-year old Virginia college student during his 2008 internship, told TheDC.
 
“My family opened up a CiCi’s pizza franchise in Virginia, where i was employed after my internship,” McGonigal said, adding that he was relived the Leadership Institute did not disclose his post-internship employer to the IRS.
 
“They could have audited my family’s business,” McGonigal said. “I was very concerned.”
 
The IRS also demanded information on the high school and college students trained by the conservative group Linchpins of Liberty.
 
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #181 on: May 21, 2013, 05:41:57 AM »
5 Troubling Questions About The IRS Scandal


Posted 05/20/2013 06:34 PM ET




Scandal Watch: Despite White House attempts to brush the IRS scandal aside as "irrelevant" or the work of rogue miscreants, huge questions remain about who ordered IRS agents to harass Tea Party groups, and why.
 
Every day, in fact, raises new and more disturbing questions that congressional investigators must get answers to. Among them:
 
1. Who told Internal Revenue Service workers to target conservatives? It's becoming increasingly clear these workers did not act on their own. Over the weekend, the Washington Post quoted an IRS staffer saying how "everything comes from the top."
 
The New York Times reported that IRS accountants got a "directive from their manager" in early 2010 to "be on the lookout" for Tea Party-type groups.
 
And Treasury workers union President Colleen Kelley told the Associated Press last week, "No processes or procedures or anything like that would ever be done just by frontline employees without any management involvement." So which manager issued the directive? And how far up the chain of command does it go?
 
2. Who knew what, when? Days after Obama emphatically stated that he learned about the IRS targeting only when it broke on May 10, we learn that Treasury officials told Obama's chief counsel, Kathryn Ruemmler, about the targeting weeks before.
 
We also learned that Treasury itself had known about the targeting since last June — in the middle of the presidential election, and the IRS officials knew before that, but didn't stop the practice.
 
Did Treasury tell anyone at the White House? Did Obama's chief counsel? Was anyone talking with the Obama presidential campaign about any of this?
 
3. Why does Lois Lerner still have a job? Ever since Lerner, director of the IRS' tax exempt organizations unit, planted the "spontaneous" question that let her "inadvertently" reveal the IRS targeting, her false claims about the scandal have piled so high, the Washington Post fact checker called it a "bushel of Pinocchios." Since Lerner played a key role in this scandal, and since it is about public trust in the IRS, it's worth pondering why she hasn't been fired.
 
4. Will the White House stonewall investigations? Getting the bottom of the scandal will require access to communications within the IRS and between the IRS and other administration officials.
 
Obama last week promised he was "looking forward to working with Congress to fully investigate what happened," but his top adviser, Dan Pfeiffer, put a big asterisk next to that over the weekend, saying that "we're not going to participate in ... a partisan fishing expedition designed to distract from the real issues at hand."
 
This is not a promising start, since Obama could toss any request from Congress into that category.
 
5. Why did the IRS try to cover it up? If this really were a bureaucratic snafu, as IRS officials insist, why did they try so hard to keep it under wraps until after the election, then mislead the country about it once the story broke?
 
Until these and other questions are answered, this scandal is anything but "irrelevant."

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #183 on: May 21, 2013, 07:49:43 AM »
California tea party group files class-action lawsuit against the IRS
 Daily Mail ^ | May 21, 2013 | David Martosko

Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:40:38 AM by Smokeyblue

A California tea party group sued the Internal Revenue Service on Monday, saying it was among the conservative organizations the federal government targeted for special scrutiny because of its political positions. The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Cincinnati, seeks the certification of a class action, which could open the floodgates for as many as 300 other right-wing groups to join the legal effort.

NorCal Tea Party Patriots, based in Colfax, California, told the court that the IRS discriminated against it because of the beliefs of its members, subjecting it to 'a lengthy and costly delay in recognition of their tax-exempt status, and the required disclosure of the personal political beliefs, writings, thoughts, and activities' of its members.

NorCal's website describes its members as 'volunteers who simply love their country and want to save it from a tyrannical takeover.'

Ginni Rapini, the group's founding president, told KGO-ABC7 in San Francisco last week that the IRS made unreasonable demands when she applied for 501(c)(4) tax-exempt status for the organization.

'They wanted every email I had ever sent out,' she said. 'They wanted the transcripts of every speech from any speaker at any event, meeting or anything that we had had.'

Like hundreds of other groups, she waited for more than two years while her application sat in the IRS's Cincinnati, Ohio office, never hearing from the agency why it was being delayed. NorCal's tax-exempt status was granted in August 2012, nearly 29 months after the application was filed.

The delays were unreasonable, according to the federal lawsuit, 'because if their tax-exempt status had been ultimately denied they would have been forced to retroactively file tax returns and pay taxes and penalties for up to two years while their applications were pending.'


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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #184 on: May 21, 2013, 08:14:24 AM »
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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #185 on: May 21, 2013, 09:38:59 AM »


Obama’s Defense in IRS Case Is Pre-Election Ignorance

 By Mike Dorning & Richard Rubin - May 21, 2013 11:21 AM ET.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-21/obama-s-defense-in-irs-case-is-pre-election-ignorance.html




Whether the Internal Revenue Service controversy explodes into something bigger comes down to this: Did anyone in the Obama administration know before the Nov. 6 election that the agency singled out Tea Party groups for extra screening?

Graphic: Who Knew What and When?
 
President Barack Obama walks in to speak on the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative groups for extra tax scrutiny in the East Room of the White House in Washington, on May 15, 2013. Photographer: Susan Walsh/AP Photo
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“The first question is who knew what when before the elections,” said David Gergen, an adviser to Republican and Democratic presidents from Richard Nixon to Bill Clinton.

“It’s a lot more relevant if people withheld sensitive information in a controversy that is, at its heart, about political power,” said Gergen, now a professor at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

What’s now an embarrassment to President Barack Obama’s administration would be elevated to a lasting stain if evidence emerges that anyone outside the IRS knew or was involved, either in inspiring the selective scrutiny or in withholding disclosure to the public, during the sensitive election season. So far, no such evidence has emerged.

White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler was briefed on the findings on April 24 and informed White House chief of staff Denis McDonough, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said yesterday. Obama said he wasn’t informed of the politically sensitive findings and said he first learned of the scandal when it was publicly disclosed on May 10.

Carney said yesterday it was Ruemmler who decided that the president shouldn’t be told earlier.

Administration Explanations



The account Carney provided yesterday went beyond previous White House explanations. Dan Pfeiffer, an Obama senior adviser, said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” on May 19 that the White House had “no idea what the facts were” when Treasury officials informed Ruemmler of the audit. Carney said yesterday that Ruemmler was told that certain words such as “Tea Party” and “patriot” were used to identify groups for extra screening.

A Treasury Department official said this morning that the department deferred to the IRS in deciding how to make the report’s findings public. The IRS first suggested using a speech by Lois Lerner, the head of the division overseeing tax-exempt organizations. While Treasury officials expressed concern, they deferred to the IRS, according to the official, who wasn’t authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

The IRS also suggested using congressional testimony by the acting commissioner, Steven Miller, during which the agency expected he would be asked about the matter, the official said.

Planting Question

When Miller wasn’t asked in the congressional testimony, the agency suggested planting a question in the audience about the matter during a public speech Lerner was to make May 10, the strategy which the agency ultimately used to reveal the findings. The Treasury department deferred to the IRS in both instances, the official said.

Deputy White House Chief of Staff Mark Childress was consulted on the first two strategies for disclosure, though not the third option ultimately deployed, said a White House official, who asked for anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.

Congressional testimony today from Douglas Shulman, who was IRS commissioner through the election, might provide some more answers.

Miller, who was Shulman’s deputy, was aware of the improper targeting by May 3, 2012 -- six months ahead of the election, according to testimony Miller gave last week. Miller, who became acting commissioner after Shulman left last November, is being forced out of the IRS.

‘Not Surprising’

Among the questions Shulman will encounter is why he didn’t inform Congress of the improper targeting. In March of that year, Shulman testified there was no targeting, a statement which by May he learned was misleading.

“It’s not surprising to me that members of Congress took umbrage that the earlier testimony from senior leadership of the IRS was not clarified once they knew more about what was going on,” said Jack Quinn, a Washington lobbyist and White House counsel in the Clinton administration.

A clarification of misleading testimony is “expected” by veteran members of Congress, including Orrin Hatch, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, Gergen said. The panel is holding a hearing on the IRS controversy today.

“It’s why Orrin Hatch has every reason to be angry,” Gergen said. Shulman’s failure to correct the record is “not just imprudent. It’s stupid,” he said.

Any evidence that shows administration officials knew details of the IRS activity before the election would undercut their story and open them to accusations of withholding information for partisan gain.

Independent Agency

Unlike the Securities and Exchange Commission, for example, the IRS isn’t an independent agency. It’s housed inside the Treasury Department, and IRS officials work with Treasury counterparts.

Although the IRS is prohibited from sharing information about individual taxpayers, the tax agency routinely discusses emerging issues and priorities with the administration.

After Tea Party and small-government groups’ complaints became public in early 2012, the IRS could have informed Treasury as to what it was doing or Treasury could have sought an explanation from the IRS, said a former senior Treasury official.

Such a conversation would be expected, given the politically sensitive nature of the issue, said the former official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of business contacts with the IRS and Treasury.

The barrage of questions Carney confronted yesterday, over the Obama administration’s response after it was notified last month of a Treasury Department inspector’s report on the IRS controversy, have more to do with the political positioning.

Informing President

“It’s a management question: What do we tell the president?” Gergen said. “I have been in White Houses where there have been fights about what to tell the president and when. Usually, it’s whether to tell the president tonight or tomorrow, not wait two weeks.”

A central theme of congressional complaints so far has been how the IRS singled out Tea Party and Patriot groups, which have been more friendly to Republicans than Democrats, for tougher scrutiny when applying for tax-exempt status.

In 2010, IRS employees in Cincinnati began looking for a way to sort which applications for tax-exempt status they should scrutinize. Their job was to prevent groups that were primarily political -- involved in elections -- from being approved for tax-exempt status.

Setting Criteria

They settled on criteria that included such phrases as “Tea Party” and “patriot.” Those terms caught groups that favor Republicans and smaller government. Other criteria didn’t have the same effect and some groups with opposite views did.

Lerner, the mid-level Washington official who oversaw the effort, found out what was happening in June 2011. She tried to change the criteria, only to see Cincinnati workers change them back and send out to the groups extensive questionnaires, some of which asked for reading materials and donor lists.

In early 2012, after the questionnaires went out, Republican lawmakers started complaining. Shulman, an appointee of Republican President George W. Bush and then the IRS commissioner, assured them in March 2012 that there was no “targeting.” At the same time, Miller, a deputy commissioner, dispatched an aide to figure out what was going on.

Miller learned the details on May 3, 2012, and he said Shulman found out, too. “I’m sure Mr. Shulman knew,” Miller said at the hearing. “I’m not sure that anybody above Mr. Shulman knew.”

Inspector General

Even as the inspector general informed officials outside the IRS about the existence of his audit -- including Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, a California Republican -- the knowledge of what the IRS had done remained inside the agency, at least based on the evidence that has become public.

It started spreading beyond the IRS in mid-March 2013, when the inspector general began sharing his draft report. The IRS informed the Treasury Department of the findings shortly after that, according to a Treasury statement.

The Treasury Department -- though neither Wolin nor Secretary Jacob J. Lew -- received an updated draft report in late April. The IRS acknowledged that it had singled out small-government groups on May 10, when Lerner responded to a planted question at a tax conference.

The inspector general’s report came out May 14, and by the next day, Obama announced Miller’s resignation.

To contact the reporters on this story: Mike Dorning in Washington at mdorning@bloomberg.net; Richard Rubin in Washington at rrubin12@bloomberg.net

To contact the editors responsible for this story: Steven Komarow at skomarow1@bloomberg.net; Jodi Schneider at

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #186 on: May 21, 2013, 11:53:37 AM »
IRS Commissioner Contradicts Earlier Testimony, Says Tea Party-Targeting Was Partisan
Posted: 05/21/2013 2:25 pm EDT  |  Updated: 05/21/2013 2:47 pm EDT




WASHINGTON -- The head of the Internal Revenue Service on Tuesday, in his second day of sworn testimony before congressional committees, admitted under questioning that the agency's targeting of tea party groups was a partisan act.

"It absolutely was," said Steven Miller, acting commissioner of the IRS, when asked by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) if the agency acted in a partisan manner.

Miller had said in his opening statement to the Senate Finance Committee that the targeting was "not an act of partisanship." The question of whether the IRS personnel who targeted tea party groups acted in a partisan way has implications for whether they broke laws such as the Hatch Act, which forbids government employees from engaging in partisan political activity.

HuffPost asked IRS officials about Miller's comment after the hearing, and sent one of them the transcript of Miller's exchange with Burr. The IRS has not yet responded.

Here is a transcript of the exchange between Burr and Miller, where they are discussing "be on the lookout" (BOLO) terms that the IRS was using to target conservative groups. In his reference to a "second listing," Miller is referring to a change in BOLO terms on January 2012. The terms started out in 2011 as focused on "organizations in the Tea Party movement," were changed in June 2011 to a far more vague scope that did not indicate political or ideological orientation, and then were changed back in January 2012 to more specific terms.

Miller's reference to a "second listing" is actually to the third iteration of the BOLO terms. So when Burr refers to the terms "before," it's clear he is talking about the BOLO terms before July 2011, which were specifically focused on the tea party.

BURR: Mr. Miller, let me just ask you. Has this practice stopped?
MILLER: What practice, sir?

BURR: The practice of how they process the consideration of these applications -- keywords "conservative," "tea party," "patriot"?

MILLER: I believe that that did happen. The names stopped when -- last in -- when Lois Lerner first learned of it. The second listing, by the way, if you take a look at that, in the Treasury inspector general's report, is still problematic because it talks about policy positions, but it actually is not particularly partisan in how it talks about policy positions.

BURR: So it was partisan -- it was partisan before, though.

MILLER: Yes, it absolutely was.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #188 on: May 21, 2013, 01:13:11 PM »
WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.


Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.
 
Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.



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DOCUMENT: The Inspector General’s report on the IRS
 
“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, R-Calif. The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times.
 
Taylor, a criminal defense attorney from the Washington firm of Zuckerman Spaeder, said that the Department of Justice has launched a criminal investigation, and that the House committee has asked Lerner to explain why she provided “false or misleading information” to the committee four times last year.
 
Since Lerner won’t answer questions, Taylor asked that she be excused from appearing, saying that would “have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her.” There was no immediate word whether the committee will grant her request.
 

 
According to an inspector general’s report, Lerner found out in June 2011 that some staff in the nonprofits division in Cincinnati had used terms like “Tea Party” and “Patriots” to select some applications for additional screening of their political activities. She ordered changes.
 
But neither Lerner nor anyone else at the IRS told Congress, even after repeated queries from several committees, including House Oversight, about whether some groups had been singled out unfairly.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #189 on: May 21, 2013, 01:25:03 PM »
moron teabaagers didn't even need to apply to the IRS for tax exempt status

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #190 on: May 21, 2013, 01:30:24 PM »
moron teabaagers didn't even need to apply to the IRS for tax exempt status

What a terrible past few weeks for the liberal criminal syndicate


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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #192 on: May 21, 2013, 02:17:15 PM »
The IRS Official At The Center Of The Scandal Will Plead The Fifth Amendment Before Congress Tomorrow
 


Brett LoGiurato|10 minutes ago|1|

Lois Lerner, the head of the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt organizations, will invoke the Fifth Amendment and not answer questions while testifying before a House committee on Wednesday about the IRS' inappropriate targeting of conservative groups.
 
Lerner is scheduled to testify before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday. In a letter to committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) that was obtained by The Los Angeles Times on Tuesday, Lerner's attorney, William W. Taylor III, wrote that "she has no choice but to take this course."
 
Taylor also asked that she be excused from the hearing, writing that it would "have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her." However, Issa has issued a subpoena to require her appearance before the committee.
 
Lerner revealed the IRS' inappropriate targeting and sparked the scandal after answering a question at a May 10 conference from Washington tax lawyer Celia Roady.
 
Wednesday's hearing is expected to be loaded, with former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin, and J. Russell George, the Treasury Department's Inspector General, also scheduled to testify.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irs-scandal-lois-lerner-plead-fifth-amendment-2013-5#ixzz2TxqMQBIQ


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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #193 on: May 21, 2013, 02:25:10 PM »
The IRS Official At The Center Of The Scandal Will Plead The Fifth Amendment Before Congress Tomorrow
 


Brett LoGiurato|10 minutes ago|1|

Lois Lerner, the head of the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt organizations, will invoke the Fifth Amendment and not answer questions while testifying before a House committee on Wednesday about the IRS' inappropriate targeting of conservative groups.
 
Lerner is scheduled to testify before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday. In a letter to committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) that was obtained by The Los Angeles Times on Tuesday, Lerner's attorney, William W. Taylor III, wrote that "she has no choice but to take this course."
 
Taylor also asked that she be excused from the hearing, writing that it would "have no purpose other than to embarrass or burden her." However, Issa has issued a subpoena to require her appearance before the committee.
 
Lerner revealed the IRS' inappropriate targeting and sparked the scandal after answering a question at a May 10 conference from Washington tax lawyer Celia Roady.
 
Wednesday's hearing is expected to be loaded, with former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin, and J. Russell George, the Treasury Department's Inspector General, also scheduled to testify.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/irs-scandal-lois-lerner-plead-fifth-amendment-2013-5#ixzz2TxqMQBIQ



Oh snap.   :o

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #194 on: May 21, 2013, 02:33:54 PM »
Carney: Obama Didn’t Ask Why He Didn’t Know about IRS Before News Reports
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Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:24:13 PM



Carney: Obama Didn’t Ask Why He Didn’t Know about IRS Before News Reports

By Andrew Johnson May 21, 2013 4:12 PM Comments 21

Jay Carney told reporters that President Obama did not ask his senior staff why he was learning about the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups for the first time through news reports two weeks ago, rather than from his staff. The administration has admitted that White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler was informed in late April of the inspector general report detailing the targeting and that she shared the information with members of the the president’s senior staff. The White House maintains that neither Ruemmler nor the president’s staff made him aware of the report.

“The president believes that the counsel’s decision is the right one,” Carney said. He reiterated that the president would not have wanted to intervene in an ongoing investigation.

Carney also said that White House deputy chief of staff Mark Childress spoke with Treasury Department officials about how to best reveal the IRS’s targeting, including a “discussion about the possibility of a speech.” The targeting was instead revealed when Lois Lerner responded to a planted question about the targeting at a conference earlier this month.

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #195 on: May 21, 2013, 02:44:43 PM »
Carney: Obama Didn’t Ask Why He Didn’t Know about IRS Before News Reports
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Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:24:13 PM



Carney: Obama Didn’t Ask Why He Didn’t Know about IRS Before News Reports

By Andrew Johnson May 21, 2013 4:12 PM Comments 21

Jay Carney told reporters that President Obama did not ask his senior staff why he was learning about the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups for the first time through news reports two weeks ago, rather than from his staff. The administration has admitted that White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler was informed in late April of the inspector general report detailing the targeting and that she shared the information with members of the the president’s senior staff. The White House maintains that neither Ruemmler nor the president’s staff made him aware of the report.

“The president believes that the counsel’s decision is the right one,” Carney said. He reiterated that the president would not have wanted to intervene in an ongoing investigation.

Carney also said that White House deputy chief of staff Mark Childress spoke with Treasury Department officials about how to best reveal the IRS’s targeting, including a “discussion about the possibility of a speech.” The targeting was instead revealed when Lois Lerner responded to a planted question about the targeting at a conference earlier this month.


This is stupid.  Being made aware of an investigation is not intervening.   ::)

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #196 on: May 21, 2013, 03:07:32 PM »
This is stupid.  Being made aware of an investigation is not intervening.   ::)

You think the POTUS should intervene in an ongoing investigation and even prior to having an outcome?

Is that something POTUS's normally do

btw - not one single Teabagger group was denied 501c4 status and in fact they don't even need to apply to the IRS for tax exempt status


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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #197 on: May 21, 2013, 03:08:12 PM »
You think the POTUS should intervene in an ongoing investigation and even prior to having an outcome?

Is that something POTUS's normally do

btw - not one single Teabagger group was denied 501c4 status and in fact they don't even need to apply to the IRS for tax exempt status



Obama has no idea what is going on in his admn since he is doing blow all day 

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Re: IRS apologizes for targeting Conservative Groups
« Reply #199 on: May 21, 2013, 03:35:03 PM »
Obama has no idea what is going on in his admn since he is doing blow all day 

fucking moron

and you wonder why no one takes you seriously