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FINALLY got his Pro Card in the Mail today
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How old is the tranny fucker now?
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How old is the tranny fucker now?
he was born on July 28, 1987
so 25
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That 2nd pic is pretty good.
Big calves, good thigh sweep, vacuum pose....not very wide mind but nice round arms and shoulders too.
Good physique....hope he doesn't ruin it as a professional.
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gayer than a bodybuilder named "antoine"
wider than phil heath
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - NEW PR WITH THE DEADLIFT 8 WO NEW YORK PRO
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Those are some epic wheels. No homo.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - GARAGE GYM CHEST TRAINING
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Needs to work harder to thicken up the belly.
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congratulations !
he is a funny dude .
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Looks like a perverted Mexican in the first pic
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It looks like he just finished a victory hotbox in the car.
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Full homo statement in 3....,2......,,1.......
AV is my favorite pro competing currently. Insane physique. What other pros can hit a vacuum pose?
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:D
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Tito24 just got his bro card.
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He looks incredible! Glad to see the vacuum pose back, hope he doesn't get pregnant 10 years down the road...
Can't wait to see what he brings to the pro stage!
Btw if you haven't seen his tricking videos check them out on youtube, pretty impressive stuff for a guy his size.
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serious question
does turning pro mean you get a salary from the ifbb?
this is a rumor i cannot believe
they told me coleman's ifbb salary is like $12,000/month
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serious question
does turning pro mean you get a salary from the ifbb?
this is a rumor i cannot believe
they told me coleman's ifbb salary is like $12,000/month
I've heard the opposite. Last I heard you've got to pay a fee, I think a yearly one... don't quote me on that part, but I highly doubt they get a salary. They earn their dollars from sponsorship, selling drugs and satisfying schmoes.
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Yeah, my good friend, Mahmoud Al-Durrah lost to him in the Overalls at the Canadian Nationals last year!
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Good physique on this guy, what weight does he compete at, height ?
Pity he'll get nowhere with that small waist, and proportions... I mean, what's he thinking... He has calves, can do a vacuum, no obvious tears... No synthol abuse...No future
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Good physique on this guy, what weight does he compete at, height ?
Pity he'll get nowhere with that small waist, and proportions... I mean, what's he thinking... He has calves, can do a vacuum, no obvious tears... No synthol abuse...No future
give it time
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VIII
A proposal from Bob Cicherillo that athletes be required to have a written contract, signed and approved, no later than 8 weeks prior to the date of the competition.
[Modification: Athletes will be required to have a written contract postmarked no later than 6 weeks prior to the date of the competition. Contracts received after the due date will be subject to a US $500 late fee to the promoter.]
ADOPTED with modification
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A proposal from Bob Cicherillo that athletes with a signed contract 8 weeks from the date of competition will receive a US $1,000 fee on cancellation of the competition any time prior to the original date set.
[Modification: Athletes with a signed contract 6 weeks from the date of the competition will split the sanction money on deposit at the time of the cancellation upon the cancellation of the competition any time prior to original date set.]
ADOPTED with modification
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You think the IFBB could have at least laminated the card.
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Yeah, my good friend, Mahmoud Al-Durrah lost to him in the Overalls at the Canadian Nationals last year!
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this guy's got a sick physique but his weight class gets overlooked when in the overalls. would make a killer 212 competitor
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Full homo statement in 3....,2......,,1.......
AV is my favorite pro competing currently. Insane physique. What other pros can hit a vacuum pose?
Rusty Jeffers can.
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You think the IFBB could have at least laminated the card.
Well, that costs an extra $0.70 cents.... what you're asking of them is a little out of touch with reality.
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blown up liver or kidney by 30, dead by 40.
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blown up liver or kidney by 30, dead by 40.
ronnie coleman still alive at 48-49-50?
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Is there really a need for this?
if wants to be paid there is. sad culture this is
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ronnie coleman still alive at 48-49-50?
I notice you didnt go any higher.
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this guy's got a sick physique but his weight class gets overlooked when in the overalls. would make a killer 212 competitor
212 competitor?? I assume they are too "tall" 5'9 to 5'11
212 is for guys who are 5'7 and under
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212 is for guys who are 5'7 and under
Maybe thats the problem.
Maybe guys 5'7 should be coming in at 190
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Maybe thats the problem.
Maybe guys 5'7 should be coming in at 190
Shawn is 5'7 and looked best around 210
The days of weighing 190 at 5'7 is over with..
212 class avg around 5'5 in height I believe
Take a look at flex Lewis, Jose Raymond , Swampi cocksmith , tricky Jackson , Eduardo, none are even 5'7
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One of the true personalities in the IFBB
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Getting a pro card means your life is spiraling out of control.
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Well, that costs an extra $0.70 cents.... what you're asking of them is a little out of touch with reality.
The NPC and IFBB should be making money hand over fist with all the bikini, physique, men's physique entrants.
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ronnie coleman still alive at 48-49-50?
ok, blown up liver or kidney by 40, dead by 50 if you prefer ::)
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ok, blown up liver or kidney by 40, dead by 50 if you prefer ::)
way more realistic
(see nasser)
glad we could come to this agreement ;D
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his chest sucks,really need to bring them up big time
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his chest sucks,really need to bring them up big time
if he hasnt brought it up compared to everything else by now, he never will
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sick build,,,
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LMAO reading in MD how he dedicated his life to bodybuilding and broke up with his "girl" friend. Fuck this pervert, he don't just fuck trannys, he tries to wife 'em.
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Needs to work harder to thicken up the belly.
Was thinking the same thing.
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Posted today: Leg workout at Elite FTS in Columbus,OH during the Arnold Classic Weekend
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cool story bro
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LMAO reading in MD how he dedicated his life to bodybuilding and broke up with his "girl" friend. Fuck this pervert, he don't just fuck trannys, he tries to wife 'em.
prolly couldnt get a hard on anymore with the tons of juice he s on, lol at "10 years of steroids hard work" ::)
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maybe he will win mr olympia one day..look at jay cutler's old video,who would have thought ???
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What happened to his right lat?
FINALLY got his Pro Card in the Mail today
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this guyts back is very weak for pro level
as king kamali said "a bodybuilder without a back" is
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this guyts back is very weak for pro level
as king kamali said "a bodybuilder without a back" is
I disagree, not a weak back at all, are you judging based on off-season pics. Back separation is only visible in contest shape.
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Well, that costs an extra $0.70 cents.... what you're asking of them is a little out of touch with reality.
They only have to pay around $400 a year to maintain it. Like 4 times the NPC card.
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serious question
does turning pro mean you get a salary from the ifbb?
this is a rumor i cannot believe
they told me coleman's ifbb salary is like $12,000/month
Where exactly did you here this? I have never heard of this before, so the answer is no, of course not, however the Ifbb does enough though, they pool all kinds of publicity for their bodybuilders together so they can get known, thus bringing them the possibility of a contract.
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this man is very good for the sport. demonstrates none of the unsightly body-destruction patterns and entertaining to watch.
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Where exactly did you here this? I have never heard of this before, so the answer is no, of course not, however the Ifbb does enough though, they pool all kinds of publicity for their bodybuilders together so they can get known, thus bringing them the possibility of a contract.
THe pros pay to be in the IFBB, they don't get paid by them.
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THe pros pay to be in the IFBB, they don't get paid by them.
Well, they pay the annual fee, yes and for this they are able to compete but the competitions are full of sponsors and photographers,consider it a way of getting noticed and perhaps obtaining a contract, this is no different then 80% of the organizations out there in any field, everything always has a fee. At least the pro card gets you into the shows for free, lol.
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Page 3 and still no photos of the tranny? WTF
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brutal horseface on that
dude chick
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Page 3 and still no photos of the tranny? WTF
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I talk a lot of $hit, but I gotta say that doesn't look like a tranny to me. ???
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I'd fuck that.
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Page 3 and still no photos of the tranny? WTF
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Could just be a girl with manface - this is bodybuilding remember, plenty of ladies with penoris's - though it does have quite a man looking face :-\
They all have nice white t33th ;D
Antoine is the best pro in terms of personality and good balanced physique you can respect and admire , and he is a strong fucker to, deff my fave pro on the circuit .. :o
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Could just be a girl with manface - this is bodybuilding remember, plenty of ladies with penoris's - though it does have quite a man looking face :-\
They all have nice white t33th ;D
Antoine is the best pro in terms of personality and good balanced physique you can respect and admire , and he is a strong fucker to, deff my fave pro on the circuit .. :o
This is what I said... I am not saying she is a man or a woman, all i AM SAYING IS HOW DO YOU KNOW FOR THE ONES THAT CLAIM SHE IS A MAN AND ALL THEY EVER DO IS POST A PIC AND SAY .....SEE, SHE IS A MAN, LIKE A FUCKEN PIC PROVES ANYTHING.
Oh shit must of press the caps by accident, my bad, lol
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dude build is solid ...hope he does good in shows,strong and his clips are funny they have good time.
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he has a personality. thats one up on 90% of todays pros.
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Itinerary for the FIBO road trip:
NOTE: Itinerary subject to change.
Friday, Apr 5 - Graz/Salzburg
Arrive in Graz
- Lake Thal (Thalersee)/Café-Restaurant Thalerse
- Arnold Schwarzenegger Museum
OVERNIGHT: Graz
Saturday, Apr 6 - Munich
Drive: Graz to Salzburg (via Salzkammergut)
- Visit the Altstadt (old town)/Getreidegasse; Lunch
- Gym: Sportcenter Hensel (Sauerlach)
Drive: Munich
OVERNIGHT: Munich
Sunday, Apr 7 - Munich
- Olympic Park
- Tour Marienplatz
- Visit Viktaulienmarkt
- See nudists at the English Garden
- Gym: Ercan's
- Meal: The Hofbrauhaus, a famous Munich institution
OVERNIGHT: Munich
Monday, Apr 8 - Neuschwanstein/Frankfurt
- Tour Neuschwanstein Castle (Disney castle based on this castle)
Arrive Frankfurt
- Gym: XXL Bodytown
Overnight: Frankfurt
Tuesday, Apr 9 - Ramstein
Ramstein Air base visit and ABC event
Closed event.
Arrive Koblenz
Overnight: Koblenz
Wednesday, Apr 10 - Koblenz/Cologne
Gym: Stahlwerk, Hoffmann's Gym
Store: Fitness Flavor, Hoffmann Store Visit
Arrive Cologne
- Cologne Cathedral
Thursday, Apr 11 - Cologne
FIBO 9:00AM-6:00PM
Friday, Apr 12 - Cologne
FIBO 9:00AM-6:00PM
Saturday, Apr 13 - Cologne
FIBO 9:00AM-6:00PM
Sunday, Apr 14 - Cologne
FIBO 9:00AM-6:00PM
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Why come he is in his 20s yet looks like an old man?
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why is he wearing shorts in winter? Oh well, stupid question i know..
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Why come he is in his 20s yet looks like an old man?
Posing in thongs can really take a toll
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Posing in thongs can really take a toll
Something is strange about this Valliant. I remember him 10 years ago as a teen-ager taking boatloads and boatloads of drugs and has not stopped since.
Something will have to give sooner or later.
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Why come he is in his 20s yet looks like an old man?
He's French Canadian and loaded with androgens. Out of the current crop of guys coming up he's probably the healthiest by far. He loads up on tons of PEDs, but he minds his cardiovascular health and can still do flip tricks and gainers and shit. Most bodybuilders can't walk up a single flight of stairs without getting heart palpitations and breaking into a full sweat.
I heard he's pretty smart in the gym too. If he gets an injury he'll baby it and train intelligently. Doesn't bulk up to massive proportions and isn't a bad guy in real life. A few friends I know train with him and his crew and they all look great. They've got a solid scene over there, but the one super disturbing thing is that I have heard that they're all into trannies and all that. Again, they're French Canadian. They're a weird breed.
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He's French Canadian and loaded with androgens. Out of the current crop of guys coming up he's probably the healthiest by far. He loads up on tons of PEDs, but he minds his cardiovascular health and can still do flip tricks and gainers and shit. Most bodybuilders can't walk up a single flight of stairs without getting heart palpitations and breaking into a full sweat.
I heard he's pretty smart in the gym too. If he gets an injury he'll baby it and train intelligently. Doesn't bulk up to massive proportions and isn't a bad guy in real life. A few friends I know train with him and his crew and they all look great. They've got a solid scene over there, but the one super disturbing thing is that I have heard that they're all into trannies and all that. Again, they're French Canadian. They're a weird breed.
Is BLP from the same area ? Antoine and Ben seem like cool guys - great personality's and like to have a laugh. :)
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He's French Canadian and loaded with androgens. Out of the current crop of guys coming up he's probably the healthiest by far. He loads up on tons of PEDs, but he minds his cardiovascular health and can still do flip tricks and gainers and shit. Most bodybuilders can't walk up a single flight of stairs without getting heart palpitations and breaking into a full sweat.
I heard he's pretty smart in the gym too. If he gets an injury he'll baby it and train intelligently. Doesn't bulk up to massive proportions and isn't a bad guy in real life. A few friends I know train with him and his crew and they all look great. They've got a solid scene over there, but the one super disturbing thing is that I have heard that they're all into trannies and all that. Again, they're French Canadian. They're a weird breed.
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Yeah, a real genius on our hands here, drugging up since age 15, no break ever and doing flips in his spare time. ::)
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He's French Canadian and loaded with androgens. Out of the current crop of guys coming up he's probably the healthiest by far. He loads up on tons of PEDs, but he minds his cardiovascular health and can still do flip tricks and gainers and shit. Most bodybuilders can't walk up a single flight of stairs without getting heart palpitations and breaking into a full sweat.
I heard he's pretty smart in the gym too. If he gets an injury he'll baby it and train intelligently. Doesn't bulk up to massive proportions and isn't a bad guy in real life. A few friends I know train with him and his crew and they all look great. They've got a solid scene over there, but the one super disturbing thing is that I have heard that they're all into trannies and all that. Again, they're French Canadian. They're a weird breed.
x2 i like antoine the best out of all the current pros. cool videos, great at marketing himself. also, got a great physique and looks pretty healthy (not that that means anything). seems to have grown into his current size over time and not really exploded like say phil or roelly have done
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x2 i like antoine the best out of all the current pros. cool videos, great at marketing himself. also, got a great physique and looks pretty healthy (not that that means anything). seems to have grown into his current size over time and not really exploded like say phil or roelly have done
X3 would love to suck his cock. No homo.
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X3 would love to suck his cock. No homo.
X4
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X4
x5
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What he does at 7:30...
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Chest training at Stahlwerk
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What he does at 7:30...
And?
all pet biscuits are fit for human consumption.
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And?
all pet biscuits are fit for human consumption.
True but they are usually complimentary for the pets.
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he has a bit of a moron thing going on
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There is footage of Whitney and Evan here as well:
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Something is strange about this Valliant. I remember him 10 years ago as a teen-ager taking boatloads and boatloads of drugs and has not stopped since.
Something will have to give sooner or later.
exactly
all the hoes i slept with alterd my dna to a point where my body could not accept heme-iron, if i chose heme-iron i would get skin psioriasis like that whore kim kardashian but i was a man whore
now im just fatter because i dont injest the appetite supressing heme-iron foods, but eventually ill figure out a way to catch up but im in no hurry im just glad to be on this planet
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he's great. I love how he doesn't take himself too seriously, with the flannels, aviators and all. lol.
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;D
ARVORERANDOM 3 days ago
TREN FOR THE WIN. Eat whatever shit you want to, get bigger and leaner..
Antoine Vaillant 3 days ago
tren hard and eat clen
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Antoine Vaillant 3 days ago
I mean train hard and eat clean*** typo sorry guys
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impressive build..dude has cool humor as well,instead acting like a goon/mook has fun with it.
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impressive build..dude has cool humor as well,instead acting like a goon/mook has fun with it.
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i dont like his face
something homo about it
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i dont like his face
something homo about it
First you point at Ronnie's ass, now it's Ant's face... Who's the fucking homo here?! ;D
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First you point at Ronnie's ass, now it's Ant's face... Who's the fucking homo here?! ;D
i want my bbers to be perfect
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He's French Canadian and loaded with androgens. Out of the current crop of guys coming up he's probably the healthiest by far. He loads up on tons of PEDs, but he minds his cardiovascular health and can still do flip tricks and gainers and shit. Most bodybuilders can't walk up a single flight of stairs without getting heart palpitations and breaking into a full sweat.
I heard he's pretty smart in the gym too. If he gets an injury he'll baby it and train intelligently. Doesn't bulk up to massive proportions and isn't a bad guy in real life. A few friends I know train with him and his crew and they all look great. They've got a solid scene over there, but the one super disturbing thing is that I have heard that they're all into trannies and all that. Again, they're French Canadian. They're a weird breed.
im french canadian and i dont like trannies and weird stuff >:(
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i want my bbers to be perfect
And again: OUTED!!! :D
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Bad boys having fun.
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And again: OUTED!!! :D
just a shmoe like the next getbigger
no homo
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im french canadian and i dont like trannies and weird stuff >:(
Don't be in a denial mode, "adam"
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Don't be in a denial mode, "adam"
i guess you don't know until you try it (no homo)
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search engine analysis proved tons of people look at tranny porn
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Why come he is in his 20s yet looks like an old man?
u heard of abusing PED can make u look older?
good body obviously looks like a douche bag in real life
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i guess you don't know until you try it (no homo)
I prefer the guessing game ;D
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search engine analysis proved tons of people look at tranny porn
There are many bored christians in this world..
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There are many bored christians in this world..
i was reading the bible during my lunch break at work
ronnie coleman says all we have to do is keep the faith and accept our calling
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i was reading the bible during my lunch break at work
ronnie coleman says all we have to do is keep the faith and accept our calling
he came to acceptance? :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=450925.0%3Battach=495369%3Bimage)
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he came to acceptance? :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=450925.0%3Battach=495369%3Bimage)
this is pure abomination...
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nothing gay here, just two normal heterosexual dudes full of male hormones training together shirtless in a dark garage.
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this is pure abomination...
wait til he s completely off the sauce and 120lbs..
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nothing gay here, just two normal heterosexual dudes full of male hormones training together shirtless in a dark garage.
Even the title is pretty gay, "Squat till you bleed" lol ???
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TEN YEARS OF "HARD WORK" for this?
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Just think what he could have done with FOUR YEARS OF HARD WORK.........
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Just imagine the $'s spend on food and drugs all those years.
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Does he even lift?
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Austria/Germany chapter 1
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Austria/Germany chapter 1
Entertaining stuff, getting sponsored for a trip like that = living the dream
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Entertaining stuff, getting sponsored for a trip like that = living the dream
yeah, but what about the part where he has to suck old men cocks ?
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yeah, but what about the part where he has to suck old men cocks ?
For what's worth it, "It’s a personalized video where I say a few sentences to you, talking about training and motivation in general. Videos are around 2 minutes long. I can say something specific or come up with something myself to say. (Note: Any strange or irregular requests will be refused.)"
http://www.antoinevaillant.com/?page_id=10
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yeah, but what about the part where he has to suck old men cocks ?
He is too cool for that. They are sucking his.
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He is too cool for that. They are sucking his.
haha, nice one, you pretty nailed the character there.
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he came to acceptance? :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach%3Btopic=450925.0%3Battach=495369%3Bimage)
actually yes, i know u dont like length interviews but theres a recent one where he talks about that he recently woke up to reality about "your body is like a car, you only get so much usage out of it"
he says jay has not reached this realization yet and is unaware of his regression just like he was for the last years
really interesting, you ought to watch it if you have some time
coleman sounds like a no bullshit kinda guy after all
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actually yes, i know u dont like length interviews but theres a recent one where he talks about that he recently woke up to reality about "your body is like a car, you only get so much usage out of it"
he says jay has not reached this realization yet and is unaware of his regression just like he was for the last years
really interesting, you ought to watch it if you have some time
coleman sounds like a no bullshit kinda guy after all
LOL, by saying this, I mean: did he came to the acceptance that the stage isn't for him anymore? (no, he didn't).
I've seen plenty of interviews with him and those Moc productions as well.
Yes, he's the GOAT and a cool person as well, but now he's done, time to take care of his family and forget the cult of BBing.
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LOL, by saying this, I mean: did he came to the acceptance that the stage isn't for him anymore? (no, he didn't).
I've seen plenty of interviews with him and those Moc productions as well.
Yes, he's the GOAT and a cool person as well, but now he's done, time to take care of his family and forget the cult of BBing.
yes he did
watch this from 20:30
talks about his delusions of comebacks before
in recent interviews he answers comeback questions with a laugh and says he's focusing on his business
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Entertaining vids, keep them coming :D
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exactly
all the hoes i slept with alterd my dna to a point where my body could not accept heme-iron, if i chose heme-iron i would get skin psioriasis like that whore kim kardashian but i was a man whore
now im just fatter because i dont injest the appetite supressing heme-iron foods, but eventually ill figure out a way to catch up but im in no hurry im just glad to be on this planet
Johnny, are there things?
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in one month he's gone to the ASC, FIBO, and now ASC Brazil! (seems like Universal is a cool sponsor!)
Livin the life man!
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McFit, that name is even more worse than Planet Fitness, they prob never heard of Ant or David.
I love that brunette with those reverse-fuck movements :P
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Antoine getting destroyed at ping pong from his angle.
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Pissed Off Stuffed Pepper
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"The pump is the cure for all desease".
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LOL, by saying this, I mean: did he came to the acceptance that the stage isn't for him anymore? (no, he didn't).
I've seen plenty of interviews with him and those Moc productions as well.
Yes, he's the GOAT and a cool person as well, but now he's done, time to take care of his family and forget the cult of BBing.
he needs to stay in the cult of bodybuilding even more. Just keep his clothes on. He's the goat and people want autos and pics. Where else is he gonna make money? It's like telling Jordan to walk away from the game entirely. That would mean the best kicks in the world would be gone.
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in one month he's gone to the ASC, FIBO, and now ASC Brazil! (seems like Universal is a cool sponsor!)
Livin the life man!
I'm sure Antoine lives the life HE wants to live. Good for him.
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Arms in Cologne with Furious Pete
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Arms in Cologne with Furious Pete
Legit gym right there
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Exactly, why so serious :D
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He is no CT Fletcher
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New Jersey road trip part 1
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He is no CT Fletcher
His cockyness becomes boring :-\
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New Jersey road trip part 1
big dudes..
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Antoine is an awesome dude. I'm going to meet him one day, same with BLP.
Ya man these guys are fucken hilarious, bringing new entertainment
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furious Pete natty??
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Going for the Gunther look?
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HIS TRAPS HAVE TRAPS,,,
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HIS TRAPS HAVE TRAPS,,,
Lol I saw that too. Antoine is a freak.
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HIS TRAPS HAVE TRAPS,,,
HIS EYEBROWS HAVE EYEBROWS,,,
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He looks like a very nice guy..
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Going for the Gunther look?
(http://www.regrettablemusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/gunther_christmas.jpg)
shit, bro. Almost spit out oatmeal all over my keyboard. ;D
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The thing that impresses me is his athleticism even at his size. Not many dudes can do backflips and jumping side kicks at his size. crazy stuff...He could have been a really good football player
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The thing that impresses me is his athleticism even at his size. Not many dudes can do backflips and jumping side kicks at his size. crazy stuff...He could have been a really good football player
Agreed, u don't see too many 260# dudes who can do that.
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I like 'Twon but he lucks like a juiced up gay Frenchman. Hilarious guy. That mustache and hair combo is awesome.
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I like 'Twon but he lucks like a juiced up gay Frenchman. Hilarious guy. That mustache and hair combo is awesome.
The mustache went out with Burt Reynolds shave that shit off.
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The mustache went out with Burt Reynolds shave that shit off.
He's successfully bringing it back. These "hipsters" have brought the mustache back for you white fellas. Us Brothers and Hispanics never abandoned it.
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He's successfully bringing it back. These "hipsters" have brought the mustache back for you white fellas. Us Brothers and Hispanics never abandoned it.
Damn then I guess then I will get pumpster to send me a mustache and microphone overnight.
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NJ road trip part @ Jersey Shore Fitness
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HIS TRAPS HAVE TRAPS,,,
He just posted this 3 weeks out back workout. The shrugs with static holds might be the reason.
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The shrugs with static holds might be the reason.
He should try the same with his back
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Austria / Germany Chapter 6
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ten years of hard cock
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I like 'Twon but he lucks like a juiced up gay Frenchman. Hilarious guy. That mustache and hair combo is awesome.
The mustache-hair-eyebrow combo makes me want to eat a WHOLE BOWL of Honey Nut Frenchios with a side of boeuf française. I can't stand french dudes, but this makes my lady parts do some weird, primal, angry shit, like we're going to breed a pack of halfricans with the biggest lips you've ever fucking seen, and skin so ambiguously brown Phil Heath will be jealous.
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The mustache-hair-eyebrow combo makes me want to eat a WHOLE BOWL of Honey Nut Frenchios with a side of boeuf française. I can't stand french dudes, but this makes my lady parts do some weird, primal, angry shit, like we're going to breed a pack of halfricans with the biggest lips you've ever fucking seen, and skin so ambiguously brown Phil Heath will be jealous.
:o ;D
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The mustache-hair-eyebrow combo makes me want to eat a WHOLE BOWL of Honey Nut Frenchios with a side of boeuf française. I can't stand french dudes, but this makes my lady parts do some weird, primal, angry shit, like we're going to breed a pack of halfricans with the biggest lips you've ever fucking seen, and skin so ambiguously brown Phil Heath will be jealous.
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The mustache-hair-eyebrow combo makes me want to eat a WHOLE BOWL of Honey Nut Frenchios with a side of boeuf française. I can't stand french dudes, but this makes my lady parts do some weird, primal, angry shit, like we're going to breed a pack of halfricans with the biggest lips you've ever fucking seen, and skin so ambiguously brown Phil Heath will be jealous.
:D
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reminds me of titus
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Caveat douchetor, Lobstah.
Some women think that the use of a douche incurs more risks than benefits.
no no, "angry shit" like hurricane Katrina action . epic flooding. homes are being destroyed and swept away. people are screaming in terror at the rising tides down there. Antoine is going to have a hell of a mess to mop up.
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Austria / Germany Chapter 7
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Austria / Germany Chapter 7
Makes me wonder, why are most gyms so fucking boring?
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no no, "angry shit" like hurricane Katrina action . epic flooding. homes are being destroyed and swept away. people are screaming in terror at the rising tides down there. Antoine is going to have a hell of a mess to mop up.
Rofl :D
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The mustache-hair-eyebrow combo makes me want to eat a WHOLE BOWL of Honey Nut Frenchios with a side of boeuf française. I can't stand french dudes, but this makes my lady parts do some weird, primal, angry shit, like we're going to breed a pack of halfricans with the biggest lips you've ever fucking seen, and skin so ambiguously brown Phil Heath will be jealous.
LOL
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Rofl :D
LOL
I'm happy I'm amusing, but if anyone actually gets Antoine to agree to let me be his oil girl, there's a picture of my butt in the deal for you!
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I'm happy I'm amusing, but if anyone actually gets Antoine to agree to let me be his oil girl, there's a picture of my butt in the deal for you!
Is it something to strive for though? Measurements? Waist-Hip Ratio etc?
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Is it something to strive for though? Measurements? Waist-Hip Ratio etc?
I don't know, you tell me, buddy. (Yes this picture is from a month ago and has been posted here before, no I don't take pictures of myself often enough to have a better one). Could be worth the effort.
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I don't know, you tell me, buddy. (Yes this picture is from a month ago and has been posted here before, no I don't take pictures of myself often enough to have a better one). Could be worth the effort.
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rock lobstah,,,
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I don't know, you tell me, buddy. (Yes this picture is from a month ago and has been posted here before, no I don't take pictures of myself often enough to have a better one). Could be worth the effort.
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you're a beautiful woman, can we meet for dinner and a show
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you're a beautiful woman, can we meet for dinner and a show
dinner and EVERY show, but you should know I talk a lot of shit
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dinner and EVERY show, but you should know I talk a lot of shit
Haven't you've read his gf-related threads? He's used to this.
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dinner and EVERY show, but you should know I talk a lot of shit
what type of shit talking are you into specifically
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Vaillant looking crappy today.What happened?
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Vaillant looking crappy today.What happened?
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB63188.jpg)
Not only smooth, but it seems he lost serious size on his upper body :-\
Arms & legs look good, tho.
Maybe the touring through Europe during his prep?
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The queer didnt look good as I expected-- and show a rear shot from this show...what's up with the diaper,,,lol
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Aye cuz this Ni66a gay
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Terrible haircut AND small. I don't know what happened to my boy! Dang. I guess the chocolate trophy is going back in the cabinet...
Poor Ant, now that tranny needs to cheer him up.
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what type of shit talking are you into specifically
you know, I'm generally being playful, but I have a tendency toward verbal diarrhea. feelings are sometimes hurt and loved ones are sometimes disrespected.
but specifically I was referring to all my internet trashtalk about the pros, who are obviously at a level I may never reach. But just like we talk shit when a figure skater doesn't nail a triple toe loop, so I will talk trash when Antoine doesn't nail his size or conditioning.
Or me. Antoine is not nailing me either. Womp womp.
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Tremendous back shot....
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Tremendous back shot....
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victim of his own hype
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Looks like shit.
Wonder if he got more cash flow and upped his gh/slin and fucked his physique up.
But i would say he's still watery as shit, with more fat to lose.
Either way, that guy is young, he can make a career switch whenever he likes, no problem.
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Even Mike Johnson beat him.
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14th place NY pro
no back
drugged to the max last 5 years
time to change career
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14th place NY pro
no back
drugged to the max last 5 years
time to change career
he could prob Magic Mike it up for a few years and make some coin. but he is from generation "YOLO" so i'm not sure if he knows how to manage money
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maybe because the trunk is too big
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Smooth as glass.
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maybe because the trunk is too big
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No way, these are the trunks everyone should wear, no one wants to see guys butts...
People should wear the trunks Arnold wears, those looked much better
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This was NOT the typical Antoine....the kid is a sick freak. Anyone know what went wring during his prep? This is the worst I've ever seen him :-\
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This was NOT the typical Antoine....the kid is a sick freak. Anyone know what went wring during his prep? This is the worst I've ever seen him :-\
probably should've carbed up with chocolate. just saying.
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14th place NY pro
no back
drugged to the max last 5 years
time to change career
there's no way he's drugged to the max... he needs to increase his gh and tren doses tremendously, and yes, coming into pro show looking like a water fountain is no good.
welp, he's still young, hope he learns this lesson
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maybe because the trunk is too big
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I thought this were offseason pics :o!
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Vaillant looking crappy today.What happened?
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Do you remember what happened to Luke Wood a few years back, this reminds me of that. :o That look wouldn't even make top 6 at the Canada's, something fucked up big time
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Ant, listen to Wolf's take on this:
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Looks like shit.
Wonder if he got more cash flow and upped his gh/slin and fucked his physique up.
But i would say he's still watery as shit, with more fat to lose.
Either way, that guy is young, he can make a career switch whenever he likes, no problem.
has nothing to do with that.
whatever happened here happened in the last 24-36 hours before the show.
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On his FB:
Remus Petrescu well maybe u should quit the childish bullshit and just train eat and sleep and then maybe u can get a top 10 finish! when i was 20 i did those silly things
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has nothing to do with that.
whatever happened here happened in the last 24-36 hours before the show.
EXACTLY,,,HE LOOKED GREAT IN THE VIDEO'S LEADING UP TO SHOW ,,EVEN THOUGH GYM IS DIFFERENT THAN STAGE STILL ,NO WAY HE COULD HAVE FELLL THAT HARD UNLESS HE MISTIMED LAST FEW DAYS...
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On his FB:
Remus Petrescu well maybe u should quit the childish bullshit and just train eat and sleep and then maybe u can get a top 10 finish! when i was 20 i did those silly things
5 likes · 14 hours ago
I Dont get it...what's the context of this conversation?
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I Dont get it...what's the context of this conversation?
In this case, he was referring to one of his vids.
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Aye cuz this Ni66a gay
LOL!....That's how they say it in the hood.
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It is all fun and games for Antoine Vaillant until the Mayor starts to get an interest in him.
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has nothing to do with that.
whatever happened here happened in the last 24-36 hours before the show.
just like Luke Wood remember. Weird,
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just like Luke Wood remember. Weird,
yup. screwed w too much cytomel, or so he claimed. lets hope valliant doesnt end up in the same boat one day.
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He looks 20lb overweight from the back and overdieted from the front???
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hes burnt out in , what his 3rd pro show?
believe me, Antoine has been @ high doses for the last 5+ years, and max doses the last 2 years . he's put on alot of size since his musclemayhem forum days in 2003/4
his receptors have stopped responding, Palumboism has set in
no chest, no lats, has that soft bloofy look
time to hang it up but he could make good $ doing G4p
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hes burnt out in , what his 3rd pro show?
believe me, Antoine has been @ high doses for the last 5+ years, and max doses the last 2 years . he's put on alot of size since his musclemayhem forum days in 2003/4
his receptors have stopped responding, Palumboism has set in
no chest, no lats, has that soft bloofy look
time to hang it up but he could make good $ doing G4p
Or he severely screwed up his peak weak and you're overreacting.
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hes burnt out in , what his 3rd pro show?
believe me, Antoine has been @ high doses for the last 5+ years, and max doses the last 2 years . he's put on alot of size since his musclemayhem forum days in 2003/4
his receptors have stopped responding, Palumboism has set in
no chest, no lats, has that soft bloofy look
time to hang it up but he could make good $ doing G4p
Why should we believe you? ::) Do you know him or relatives?
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This was his 1st pro show.
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This was his 1st pro show.
That's a weak excuse, I've never seen him like this
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Dude traveled way too much while dieting for this show and training in a garage won't cut it.
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Dude traveled way too much while dieting for this show and training in a garage won't cut it.
what was up with him in the garage all the time? why not train at a proper gym?
animal seems to push guys (except centopani) to travel on road trips.
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what was up with him in the garage all the time? why not train at a proper gym?
animal seems to push guys (except centopani) to travel on road trips.
Animal is trying to get their monies worth with them.
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why all the excuses from Team Antoine?
they are all max dosing @ their level.
from kevin levrone's dr to a biritish pro who saw levrone's dr " you need to be on a minium of 3grams of test. per week to even be on pro level, not including all other PED's"
he's 5th tier @ best
luke wood was better than him
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hes burnt out in , what his 3rd pro show?
believe me, Antoine has been @ high doses for the last 5+ years, and max doses the last 2 years . he's put on alot of size since his musclemayhem forum days in 2003/4
his receptors have stopped responding, Palumboism has set in
no chest, no lats, has that soft bloofy look
time to hang it up but he could make good $ doing G4p
You have no idea what you are talking about.
First of all he looked ten times better when he won the Canada's, second he looked ten times better 1 month ago so clearly his body turned on him at the last minute, particularly the last 2 days. This shit happens, whatever he did wrong he will learn from.
This is the last guy you should be saying Palumboism, he has a small waist line. He just got a pro card, ya really hang it up, wtf no, the guy is in his mid twenties, he is far from finished.
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He can't do any worse than Jason Huh. What a bust he's been so far.
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He can't do any worse than Jason Huh. What a bust he's been so far.
I still think jayson will come back and win shows, just a hunch. He just hast to find what works come in cause he look ridiculous at the 3-4 week mark
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
First of all he looked ten times better when he won the Canada's, second he looked ten times better 1 month ago so clearly his body turned on him at the last minute, particularly the last 2 days. This shit happens, whatever he did wrong he will learn from.
This is the last guy you should be saying Palumboism, he has a small waist line. He just got a pro card, ya really hang it up, wtf no, the guy is in his mid twenties, he is far from finished.
haha pwned
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Jason is much better than Antoine.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
First of all he looked ten times better when he won the Canada's, second he looked ten times better 1 month ago so clearly his body turned on him at the last minute, particularly the last 2 days. This shit happens, whatever he did wrong he will learn from.
This is the last guy you should be saying Palumboism, he has a small waist line. He just got a pro card, ya really hang it up, wtf no, the guy is in his mid twenties, he is far from finished.
right, after doing how many contests , 10 or more in his life, why is Antoines body turning on him @ the last minute?
is this not a sign he's shot?
surely he's not making last mintue errors, one doesnt do this after 10 or more so contests when one shld hve their prep down pat?
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John Meadows his trainer and diet guy said they did do a last minute adjustment and it wasn't nutrition or training wise. He said now they know how his body responded.
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right, after doing how many contests , 10 or more in his life, why is Antoines body turning on him @ the last minute?
is this not a sign he's shot?
surely he's not making last minute errors, one doesnt do this after 10 or more so contests when one shld hve their prep down pat?
Everyone does this on their pro debut because they panic and try some thing Knew and drastic and I have seen people make last minute mistakes after 20 shows. The shit is make or break at the last minute, he should have stuck with what worked for him in the past.
Oh and it is his first show not his 3rd for pro shows.
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The mustache-hair-eyebrow combo makes me want to eat a WHOLE BOWL of Honey Nut Frenchios with a side of boeuf française. I can't stand french dudes, but this makes my lady parts do some weird, primal, angry shit, like we're going to breed a pack of halfricans with the biggest lips you've ever fucking seen, and skin so ambiguously brown Phil Heath will be jealous.
lol
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I still feel like Antoine hasn't yet found his perfect formula to dial it in come show day. Even at his Canadian wins, he looked sick, but was still a bit flat compared to what he's capable of, as in how he looked 1 week out.
I really like John Meadows, but I wonder how solid his peak week methods are. Antoine's showing last weekend makes me think they were fucking with too much during the last week.
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I still feel like Antoine hasn't yet found his perfect formula to dial it in come show day. Even at his Canadian wins, he looked sick, but was still a bit flat compared to what he's capable of, as in how he looked 1 week out.
I really like John Meadows, but I wonder how solid his peak week methods are. Antoine's showing last weekend makes me think they were fucking with too much during the last week.
Pros after 30 shows are still figuring this out and that is why the hire gurus, don't forget these guys are taking slin, gh and crazy shit and a lot of the time when you drop compounds at the last minute in order to hold less water your body takes a turn for the worse.
I know a guy (ifbb pro) who drops his gh 2 weeks out and we are talking 24 + iu per day and his body flattens out and he gets a weird look so now he drops it only to 6 iu instead of nothing and he remains full and hard.
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Pros after 30 shows are still figuring this out and that is why the hire gurus, don't forget these guys are taking slin, gh and crazy shit and a lot of the time when you drop compounds at the last minute in order to hold less water your body takes a turn for the worse.
I know a guy (ifbb pro) who drops his gh 2 weeks out and we are talking 24 + iu per day and his body flattens out and he gets a weird look so now he drops it only to 6 iu instead of nothing and he remains full and hard.
Damn that's crazy!
I really like your input here since you are buds with a few a Pros. Always interesting shit 8)
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striking similarities in conditioning
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When an athlete starts having trouble getting rid of subcuteneous water for a show usually means kidney issues on the make.
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No way, these are the trunks everyone should wear, no one wants to see guys butts...
People should wear the trunks Arnold wears, those looked much better
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(c) IronMeister
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Everyone does this on their pro debut because they panic and try some thing Knew and drastic and I have seen people make last minute mistakes after 20 shows. The shit is make or break at the last minute, he should have stuck with what worked for him in the past.
Oh and it is his first show not his 3rd for pro shows.
everyone?
mark dugdale didnt, kris dim didnt, big ramy didnt mess up their pro debuts
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everyone?
mark dugdale didnt, kris dim didnt, big ramy didnt mess up their pro debuts
figure of speech bro, really ???
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He looks 20lb overweight from the back and overdieted from the front???
He sucks. Plain and simple.
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He sucks. Plain and simple.
Most probably you're right. He did have a tranny gf.
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Most probably you're right. He did have a tranny gf.
I guess that should count for something. LOL.
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Most probably you're right. He did have a tranny gf.
WTF? Who?
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WTF? Who?
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Wait a REAL TRANNY? I thought you just meant some manly-looking female, but...you meant an ACTUAL former man! Wow. I mean I don't care who anyone dates, but if Big A is claiming heterosexuality, I suggest he trade this in. For um...me.
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Still not convinced. She just looks like an ugly chick to me.
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Wait a REAL TRANNY? I thought you just meant some manly-looking female, but...you meant an ACTUAL former man! Wow. I mean I don't care who anyone dates, but if Big A is claiming heterosexuality, I suggest he trade this in. For um...me.
;)
Poor Ant, now that tranny needs to cheer him up.
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Wait a REAL TRANNY? I thought you just meant some manly-looking female, but...you meant an ACTUAL former man! Wow. I mean I don't care who anyone dates, but if Big A is claiming heterosexuality, I suggest he trade this in. For um...me.
Can you take several photo's of yourself drenched in water and wearing skimpy outfit then go ahead and send that to me via pm.
I'll give said photo's to Antoine and play matchdate.
I offer my services for free.
He will give you the the biggest wedding imaginable with all the schmoes and fitness hookers attending.
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Still not convinced. She just looks like an ugly chick to me.
I dunno, but she can definitely pass off as a tranny. Either way, she has a fit body, very nice.
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Can you take several photo's of yourself drenched in water and wearing skimpy outfit then go ahead and send that to me via pm.
I'll give said photo's to Antoine and play matchdate.
I offer my services for free.
He will give you the the biggest wedding imaginable with all the schmoes and fitness hookers attending.
I'll get right on that. I'll even use that there FRENCH water, so Big A knows I appreciate his people.
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Still not convinced. She just looks like an ugly chick to me.
ya I have debated this with people and the best argument they have is '' look at the pic'' so I am still not convinced either. I could be wrong but not enough out there to convince me so far. :-\
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Posted before by Musclecenter, but I think it's belongs here.
Around +3:00 he's explaining his NY shape in a few words.
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Posted before by Musclecenter, but I think it's belongs here.
Around +3:00 he's explaining his NY shape in a few words.
holy shit look at frank mcgraths cheeckmuscles. He can even flex them lol
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DUE HAS POTENTIAL,LOOKS AWESOME IN VID'S...PRO LEVEL U NEED A GAME EVERY TIME,ITS NOT THAT EASY,SOMETIMES BODY DOSEN'T AGREE WITH LAST MINUTE EFFORTS..
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Austria / Germany Chapter 8
"You got my balls in that bag?"
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antoine is 5th tier
even if hes in condition he lacks the size to be a top 10 guy and his weak back is always going to be a liability
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flat, depleted, warn out, tired, depressed, lmao 8)
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'Toine will be back better than ever!
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antoine is 5th tier
even if hes in condition he lacks the size to be a top 10 guy and his weak back is always going to be a liability
he is only 25, give him a couple more years of trenbolowning and he will have the size for pro bb
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25th place at the Mr O.
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25th place at the Mr O.
Battling it out with Ntuk-Ntuk, and Jocellyn Pelletier.
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Battling it out with Ntuk-Ntuk, and Jocellyn Pelletier.
;D
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he is only 25, give him a couple more years of trenbolowning and he will have the size for pro bb
TBH I think its more likely hes burned out.
Guy has been juicing heavy non stop for around 8 years.
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TBH I think its more likely hes burned out.
Guy has been juicing heavy non stop for around 8 years.
EXCELLENT BUILD AT THAT AGE DAMN,,,LEGS GREAT,DELTS,RIPPED ,SHAPE..TAKE STUFF FOR YRS AND YOUNG TO LOOK LIKE THAT,,
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Damn he looks bad in Toronto also.
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Damn he looks bad in Toronto also.
really??/have to check pics,,,bbing is weird mind fuk,,human body can only allow so much peaking,why peak in the last few wks in gym,,travel schedule might be burning him out,,,he looked great in the vid;s ,love to have that build,and i have a pretty good build,i'm no pro tho would trade for that look at least temporarily,,,
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB63188.jpg)
It just shows how much the pros rely on drugs to look good, from looking great a few weeks ago to this????
Real quality gained muscle acquired and "earned", doesn't simply disappear.
He will show up on video again in a couple of weeks huge and ripped, now where will all that new muscle have come from?
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Antoine at the Toronto today.
True Adonis owning him on this pose. ;D
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB63188.jpg)
It just shows how much the pros rely on drugs to look good, from looking great a few weeks ago to this????
Real quality gained muscle acquired and "earned", doesn't simply disappear.
He will show up on video again in a couple of weeks huge and ripped, now where will all that new muscle have come from?
Does it occur to you that even when he's "off" he's still waaay:
- bigger
- leaner
- stronger
than you?
Every athlete (even though I don't consider bodybuilders athletes but whatever) has his ups and downs. Do you really think sprinters can do 9.0 for 100m year round? Fuck no, I think there are moments when they wouldn't break 10s. Same goes for olympic lifters - do you really think they're any different?
My friend who knows some top oly lifters personally (remember I'm from Poland, some real badass top guys out there are from my country) told me about this conversation between two great champions, one is olympic golden medalist, the other one had world record which the other guy broke. Great friends. 3 months out of a competition olympic champion cannot snatch, say, 150kg. His friend asks him - "what the fuck mate??? you're weak as shit, how are you gonna prepare?"
"troshku chemii i budyet".
Translate that yourself.
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(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/13torontopre30775.jpg)
Antoine at the Toronto today.
True Adonis owning him on this pose. ;D
Looks like his lats have been surgically removed. Awful torso.
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Does it occur to you that even when he's "off" he's still waaay:
- bigger
- leaner
- stronger
than you?
Stupid twat, what the fuck has it got to do with me?
He looks way better than all the judges but they still score him and critique his physique.
What a stupid statement to say that because hes better than my I cant criticise his physique.
The guy has ben juicing heavy for eight years at least and shows up onstage fat and smooth.
I NEVER SHOWED UP ONSTAGE OUT OF SHAPE.
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Stupid twat, what the fuck has it got to do with me?
He looks way better than all the judges but they still score him and critique his physique.
What a stupid statement to say that because hes better than my I cant criticise his physique.
The guy has ben juicing heavy for eight years at least and shows up onstage fat and smooth.
I NEVER SHOWED UP ONSTAGE OUT OF SHAPE.
what ya bench?
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Stupid twat, what the fuck has it got to do with me?
He looks way better than all the judges but they still score him and critique his physique.
What a stupid statement to say that because hes better than my I cant criticise his physique.
The guy has ben juicing heavy for eight years at least and shows up onstage fat and smooth.
I NEVER SHOWED UP ONSTAGE OUT OF SHAPE.
Well, it simply shows that 8 years of juice were worth something after all because even out of shape he is still ages ahead of you. He wasn't fat, he was just bloated. Why - I do not know that, ask him. And by the way, FYI, around 50% of how you "look" on steroids has to do with water and glycogen. If you are around 10% you will notice that with some manipulations you can look much better/worse in a matter of days. Why? Because on steroids you can retain water easily and store much more glycogen than naturally. You can say it's artificial, I say it's just as artificial as working out. Stop working out and you'll look like shit in a matter of months.
Trust me, Antoine made it. He has sponsors, he is popular, he marketed himself pretty well and is decent bodybuilder. For every Antoine there are 10000 anonymous guys who juice just as much as him and will never make it to this point.
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Well, it simply shows that 8 years of juice were worth something after all because even out of shape he is still ages ahead of you. He wasn't fat, he was just bloated. Why - I do not know that, ask him. And by the way, FYI, around 50% of how you "look" on steroids has to do with water and glycogen. If you are around 10% you will notice that with some manipulations you can look much better/worse in a matter of days. Why? Because on steroids you can retain water easily and store much more glycogen than naturally. You can say it's artificial, I say it's just as artificial as working out. Stop working out and you'll look like shit in a matter of months.
he looks better here in the one pic posted ,than at the ny pro,,
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By the way many of you assume little too much, don't you think?
You somehow assume that Antoine is roided to the max.
You assume he's been roiding heavy for 8 years.
Then based on assumptions you produced out of thin air you claim he is finished, not talented, terrible and so on. Have you ever thought that MAYBE he:
Does not take as many roids as everyone else, just minimum dose?
Trains hard and enjoys that (you can clearly see joy in his workouts, guy outlifts everyone here ffs), loves this lifestyle.
Competes for fun and for sponsors but does not aspire to be Mr Olympia?
Then you could understand why he never came in totally shredded. He has no such aspirations. He's a guy that loves to train heavy and look good but maybe shredded glutes is not what he really wants?
I do not know! I'm just making assumptions. Just like you I do not know him. But what I just wrote makes just as much sense as what you made up.
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Trust me, Antoine made it. He has sponsors, he is popular, he marketed himself pretty well and is decent bodybuilder. For every Antoine there are 10000 anonymous guys who juice just as much as him and will never make it to this point.
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And that puts him above being criticised because.......?
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You're not criticising. You're basicly throwing muld at a guy based based on his alleged steroid abuse that you know NOTHING about. Yes he looked like shit in New York but that's where criticism ends, that's all what is needed to be said.
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Its fair to say the guy looks a mess, its also fair to say he's been using steroids heavily for 8 years, anyone with an iota of knowledge knows you cant make the gains he has without using.
He's a pro bodybuilder, they all use huge dosages (ask OTH)
Now to turn up onstage looking like that wont earn him any "brownie points" with his sponsors will it?
He has a duty to them to show up in shape, after all they are paying him to do just that.
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Its fair to say the guy looks a mess, its also fair to say he's been using steroids heavily for 8 years, anyone with an iota of knowledge knows you cant make the gains he has without using.
He's a pro bodybuilder, they all use huge dosages (ask OTH)
Now to turn up onstage looking like that wont earn him any "brownie points" with his sponsors will it?
He has a duty to them to show up in shape, after all they are paying him to do just that.
He does not look like a mess, far from it.
It's not fair to say he's been using heavily for 8 years. He's been using, that's for sure but you don't know anything more than that.
Not every pro has to use huge dosages. There may be exceptions, Antoine may be one of them. Pro card does not magically make one use huge dosages.
You have no idea what his contract states. Personally I think that they're gonna keep him as long as he has his fanbase, posts cool training vids that motivate people to train and looks like he does - no gut, no torned muscles, maybe not the best condition in competition but who cares, in vids/gym/pics he looks awesome. That's like 100000x as important as plastic trophies.
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Well, it simply shows that 8 years of juice were worth something after all because even out of shape he is still ages ahead of you. He wasn't fat, he was just bloated. Why - I do not know that, ask him. And by the way, FYI, around 50% of how you "look" on steroids has to do with water and glycogen. If you are around 10% you will notice that with some manipulations you can look much better/worse in a matter of days. Why? Because on steroids you can retain water easily and store much more glycogen than naturally. You can say it's artificial, I say it's just as artificial as working out. Stop working out and you'll look like shit in a matter of months.
Trust me, Antoine made it. He has sponsors, he is popular, he marketed himself pretty well and is decent bodybuilder. For every Antoine there are 10000 anonymous guys who juice just as much as him and will never make it to this point.
i agree... besides, the guy is YOUNGGGGGGGGGGG.... he is 25 something right? and he also possesses somewhat aesthetic and streamlined physique, which is not the case with most of the bodybuilders around nowadays,, give him time. he won't be no mr o potential, cause he will never have the ability to run humongous drug protocols that are required to even be in top 6 of the o...
maybe his respond isn't good enough, and obviously he's not running huge doses of gear.,, at ny pro he just was not in CONDITION... watery. he will learn from his mistakes, trust me
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Well, it simply shows that 8 years of juice were worth something after all because even out of shape he is still ages ahead of you. He wasn't fat, he was just bloated. Why - I do not know that, ask him. And by the way, FYI, around 50% of how you "look" on steroids has to do with water and glycogen. If you are around 10% you will notice that with some manipulations you can look much better/worse in a matter of days. Why? Because on steroids you can retain water easily and store much more glycogen than naturally. You can say it's artificial, I say it's just as artificial as working out. Stop working out and you'll look like shit in a matter of months.
Trust me, Antoine made it. He has sponsors, he is popular, he marketed himself pretty well and is decent bodybuilder. For every Antoine there are 10000 anonymous guys who juice just as much as him and will never make it to this point.
Pockmark-faced, drug-abusing Pollack desperately lashing out at anyone and everyone who dare critique his Inspector Clouseau-on-roids looking boyfriend who he identifies with in this thread.
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Pockmark-faced, drug-abusing Pollack desperately lashing out at anyone and everyone who dare critique his Inspector Clouseau-on-roids looking boyfriend who he identifies with in this thread.
Haha!
But whereas Chief Inspector Clouseau was incompetently competent, the Aloutte-singing, Royal Canadian mounted mountebank of muscle is a bumbling stumblebum with a GH nose and Habsburg chin: ♫Je te plumerai♫.
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Haha!
But whereas Chief Inspector Clouseau was incompetently competent, the Aloutte-singing, Royal Canadian mounted mountebank of muscle is a bumbling stumblebum with a GH nose and Habsburg chin: ♫Je te plumerai♫.
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I would feel like a respectable, intelligent, educated gentleman if I could understand only 10% of your posts.
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I would feel like a respectable, intelligent, educated gentleman if I could understand only 10% of your posts.
You're one of the most respectable, intelligent, and educated guys on Getbig.
Bonne chance, Chiro!
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Surprisingly, I share that sentiment. :D
In any case, you're one of the most respectable, intelligent, and educated guys on Getbig.
Bonne chance, Chiro!
Are you from Quebec? If so, i want to ask a few quick questions via pm.
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Have you ever thought that MAYBE he:
Does not take as many roids as everyone else, just minimum dose?
are you on drugs?
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Even Frank's dog wags her tongue to metal music!
Toronto Pro part 2
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Going to the meeting in a Scottish kilt, fuck yeah
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mcgrath looking freaky
:-X
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Going to the meeting in a Scottish kilt, fuck yeah
I thought the idea was to deplete of sodium and water before competition? is this some new approach or am I missing something?
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mcgrath looking freaky
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Then why the :-X-face ???
Dude looks good, minus those scars
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I thought the idea was to deplete of sodium and water before competition? is this some new approach or am I missing something?
Not sure, but it's prob to fill up, to prevent flatness. Can somebody confirm this?
Arnold & Franco did the same by eating some pizza right before the show.
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Not sure, but it's prob to fill up, to prevent flatness. Can somebody confirm this?
Arnold & Franco did the same by eating some pizza right before the show.
seemed to work the opposite way. from the pics i saw he was flat and watery.
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Stupid twat, what the fuck has it got to do with me?
He looks way better than all the judges but they still score him and critique his physique.
What a stupid statement to say that because hes better than my I cant criticise his physique.
The guy has ben juicing heavy for eight years at least and shows up onstage fat and smooth.
I NEVER SHOWED UP ONSTAGE OUT OF SHAPE.
id say heavy steroids from @ least 2000, if not earlier, he was on musclemayhem boards circa2003 as a huge junior canada nationals winner
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seemed to work the opposite way. from the pics i saw he was flat and watery.
But he looked better than during the NY pro.
He seems a opinionated person, not sure if John Meadows approves this (if he is involved).
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Haha!
But whereas Chief Inspector Clouseau was incompetently competent, the Aloutte-singing, Royal Canadian mounted mountebank of muscle is a bumbling stumblebum with a GH nose and Habsburg chin: ♫Je te plumerai♫.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/4ac6a4cb-69d9-e695.jpg)
classic getbig post :D
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Jersey Shore in July:
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Just watched Antoine's Toronto vid. I feel bad for the guy...this was NOT his usual look. So flat and smooth.
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Did John Meadows prep him for the Canadian Nationals? Because something is very different now. Not that it's necessarily John's fault, but wondering if the "approach" changed.
Lost muscle and still fat.
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Did John Meadows prep him for the Canadian Nationals? Because something is very different now. Not that it's necessarily John's fault, but wondering if the "approach" changed.
Lost muscle and still fat.
my guess is he wasn't trying. Maybe he had an obligation to do these shows and was not into it and did not have the option to back out. When I saw him he was laughing, smiling away, like a normal day, like he was having fun. Not a competitive spirit. I know he will back better then ever, he is resilient and he always improves.
He has had a bad showing before and has come back better.
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my guess is he wasn't trying. Maybe he had an obligation to do these shows and was not into it and did not have the option to back out. When I saw him he was laughing, smiling away, like a normal day, like he was having fun. Not a competitive spirit. I know he will back better then ever, he is resilient and he always improves.
He has had a bad showing before and has come back better.
HIS PRO QUALIFIER HE LOOKED GREAT PLAIN AND SIMPLE,POTENTIAL IS THERE.
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Austria / Germany Chapter 9
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at backstage of Toronto pro
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at backstage of Toronto pro
Man who is that hansome guy in the red staff shirt @ 6min 20 sec
LMAO ;D
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Man who is that hansome guy in the red staff shirt @ 6min 20 sec
LMAO ;D
I don't get it, thought you look way different than this guy or is it bad capture timing?
Hope you had a great time!
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Who is the dude with the belly in the background? Badell? :D
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I don't get it, thought you look way different than this guy or is it bad capture timing?
Hope you had a great time!
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Believe it or not, that is me, lol, I am 245 and out of shape with hair, here is a picture of me at 210 without hair, i know night and day :-\
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The guy in the back round is Novos de Jesus from Dominican Republic, does not speak English
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Believe it or not, that is me, lol, I am 245 and out of shape with hair, here is a picture of me at 210 without hair, i know night and day :-\
Nothing wrong with a good off season, unless you're a douche, "training for dem bitches" ;)
I thought you were a 'natural' boldie :D
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Nothing wrong with a good off season, unless you're a douche, "training for dem bitches" ;)
I thought you were a 'natural' boldie :D
Ya, the truth is bro I love junk food, i eat cookies, chips pop, like a kid, but make no mistake when it is time to work and put my foot down, i am as religious about it as they get.
I have a full set of hair, it runs in my family, My grandfather just died at 90 years old with hair, and my dad is 67 without even receding
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Ya, the truth is bro I love junk food, i eat cookies, chips pop, like a kid, but make no mistake when it is time to work and put my foot down, i am as religious about it as they get.
I have a full set of hair, it runs in my family, My grandfather just died at 90 years old with hair, and my dad is 67 without even receding
AT LEAST UR HONEST AND DON'T BLOW SMOKE UP PEOPLE ASSES,AND ALSO NOT CLAIMIMG TO BE SHREDDED WIYHOUT POSTING PIC,YOUR BIG DUDE /STRONG AND THATS THE LOOK U HAVE ,IF U DID NOT HAVE COMPETITIVE PLANS U PROBABLY SETTLE INTO LEAN/RIPPED ALL THE TIME SHAPE...
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AT LEAST UR HONEST AND DON'T BLOW SMOKE UP PEOPLE ASSES,AND ALSO NOT CLAIMIMG TO BE SHREDDED WIYHOUT POSTING PIC,YOUR BIG DUDE /STRONG AND THATS THE LOOK U HAVE ,IF U DID NOT HAVE COMPETITIVE PLANS U PROBABLY SETTLE INTO LEAN/RIPPED ALL THE TIME SHAPE...
Yes exactly right, if I did not want to compete I would be like galeniko year round but since I know what I need to look like the only thing that matters is the day of, the rest of the time means nothing to me. ;) Still not going to get fat though, this my limit 8)
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Ya, the truth is bro I love junk food, i eat cookies, chips pop, like a kid, but make no mistake when it is time to work and put my foot down, i am as religious about it as they get.
I have a full set of hair, it runs in my family, My grandfather just died at 90 years old with hair, and my dad is 67 without even receding
Two weeks ago, a buddy of mine, who loves his junk moments as well, started his first first cycle (test e & bold). So I wonder if he's able to control his binge moments, once the bold is kicking in, can happen any moment ;D
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Two weeks ago, a buddy of mine, who loves his junk moments as well, started his first first cycle (test e & bold). So I wonder if he's able to control his binge moments, once the bold is kicking in, can happen any moment ;D
haha I am on test and bold right now too ironically and man do I have an appetite, it will be tough for him lol.
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haha I am on test and bold right now too ironically and man do I have an appetite, it will be tough for him lol.
how many weeks in on bold do you noticecthat your appetites starts to go up?
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what kind of steroid is boldenon compared to testosterone?
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what kind of steroid is boldenon compared to testosterone?
To gain quality mass, not bloated mass.
Other than this, as this article (http://www.steroid.com/Equipoise.php) outlines, it's hard to compare these two compounds.
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Ant meets Getbig's BLP, two crazy fuckers ;D
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To gain quality mass, not bloated mass.
Other than this, as this article (http://www.steroid.com/Equipoise.php) outlines, it's hard to compare these two compounds.
that video suggested this is a cutting drug to prevent muscle loss
but not great for muscle growth
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that video suggested this is a cutting drug to prevent muscle loss
but not great for muscle growth
Video? ;)
You're right, in case you only want to achieve maximum size and don't care about it's visual quality (striations). But why would you walk around like you're a camel, full of water?
Bold give you slow gains, but they will last much longer than typical bulk products, like test, deca or dbol.
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Toronto Pro Day 4 part 2
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man valliant when he got his pro card at the nats had one of the most aesthetic eye pleasing physiques ive seen. (no homo)
i think hes pushing to hard. just my opinion, not that it matters to him but lines like that, proportion and symmetry like that are 1 in a million gifts. shame hes gotta sacrifice that to compete in what 'bodybuilding' has become.
they need to for the sake of the sport bring in a classic lines class or something. that values overall shape symmetry and muscularity. no, not physique.
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man valliant when he got his pro card at the nats had one of the most aesthetic eye pleasing physiques ive seen. (no homo)
i think hes pushing to hard. just my opinion, not that it matters to him but lines like that, proportion and symmetry like that are 1 in a million gifts. shame hes gotta sacrifice that to compete in what 'bodybuilding' has become.
they need to for the sake of the sport bring in a classic lines class or something. that values overall shape symmetry and muscularity. no, not physique.
Agreed x 1000!
I've said it before about Vaillant....I HOPE he never does well in the pro's, because this would mean ruining his lines in an effort to "keep up with the big boys." If I could trade physiques with any "pro", it would be this guy.
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Agreed x 1000!
I've said it before about Vaillant....I HOPE he never does well in the pro's, because this would mean ruining his lines in an effort to "keep up with the big boys." If I could trade physiques with any "pro", it would be this guy.
weird, I want to borrow his body too, but... we couldn't possibly mean the same thing.
heh.
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The guy fucking sucks. He's all drugs and is probably at bottom too.
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Those dumbbell holders look great
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The guy fucking sucks. He's all drugs and is probably at bottom too.
Quit talking shit about my boyfriend, dickface.
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The guy fucking sucks. He's all drugs and is probably at bottom too.
Are you a Jew by chance?
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Are you a Jew by chance?
I HAVE NEVER MET AN ITALIAN WITH NAME ABRAHAM STALLONE,BARONE,ECT,,,
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Austria / Germany Chapter 10
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Quit talking shit about my boyfriend, dickface.
fuck off pussy!
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Are you a Jew by chance?
The name would make you think yes, why don't you suck my dick and tell me what you think!
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The name would make you think yes, why don't you suck my dick and tell me what you think!
Very strange request. You are clearly a conneseur of all things related to cock.
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man valliant when he got his pro card at the nats had one of the most aesthetic eye pleasing physiques ive seen. (no homo)
i think hes pushing to hard. just my opinion, not that it matters to him but lines like that, proportion and symmetry like that are 1 in a million gifts. shame hes gotta sacrifice that to compete in what 'bodybuilding' has become.
they need to for the sake of the sport bring in a classic lines class or something. that values overall shape symmetry and muscularity. no, not physique.
he needs to be in shape and stop coming in so smooth and soft and actually get peeled for once in his life--- then he might do better as a pro-
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fuck off pussy!
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The guy fucking sucks. He's all drugs and is probably at bottom too.
He is in the top 5% of youngest pros so WTF you talking about, he sucks? really that's why he turned pro in his mid twenties.
FFS people he had a bad showing, so the fuck what, everyone has seen him better so this showing means shit. He will be back bigger and better.
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He looked good during his whole prep, except for those last 1-2 weeks.
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He is in the top 5% of youngest pros so WTF you talking about, he sucks? really that's why he turned pro in his mid twenties.
FFS people he had a bad showing, so the fuck what, everyone has seen him better so this showing means shit. He will be back bigger and better.
x2..........
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He looked good during his whole prep, except for those last 1-2 weeks.
...said EVERY single competitive bodybuilder at least once during their career.
Peak week is a bitch, things happen. Antoine will be back 8)
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Toronto Pro Day 4 part 2
Franks vascularity is insane! I know genetics plays a roll however what combo do you guys believe is contributing most?
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Franks vascularity is insane! I know genetics plays a roll however what combo do you guys believe is contributing most?
Low body fat, genetics and training for many years causes collateral veins.
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...said EVERY single competitive bodybuilder at least once during their career.
Peak week is a bitch, things happen. Antoine will be back 8)
Nothing happened the last week.
Oh yeah, he put on fat the last two weeks? LOL, just no. He was still fat.
BTW, Meadows would only say diuretics had nothing to do with his poor showing as he doesn't use them and never prescribes them.
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Nothing happened the last week.
Oh yeah, he put on fat the last two weeks? LOL, just no. He was still fat.
BTW, Meadows would only say diuretics had nothing to do with his poor showing as he doesn't use them and never prescribes them.
well yeah,,gym shots,training vids,,good light,shows the show me muscles,on stage prep off a bit and in posing trunks and whatever he did or did not do showed for it,,,still has great structure,good muscle,killer legs to rebound,,,
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Nothing happened the last week.
Oh yeah, he put on fat the last two weeks? LOL, just no. He was still fat.
BTW, Meadows would only say diuretics had nothing to do with his poor showing as he doesn't use them and never prescribes them.
Yes something did happen, I agree he was not lean enough to begin with but he looked better 2 weeks before and he flattened and smoothed out a bit. The body can change over night regardless of what bodyfat is present
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Yes something did happen, I agree he was not lean enough to begin with but he looked better 2 weeks before and he flattened and smoothed out a bit. The body can change over night regardless of what bodyfat is present
this too...i seen those last vids he looked sick,full,lean,hard,better than those 2 shows shoed,, ???
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this too...i seen those last vids he looked sick,full,lean,hard,better than those 2 shows shoed,, ???
he even had a bit of striations and on stage he had non.
You don`t have to have different bodyfat levels to have two different type of looks like Van b suggested.
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he even had a bit of striations and on stage he had non.
You don`t have to have different bodyfat levels to have two different type of looks like Van b suggested.
he was like u said smooth/flat ,,mistimed something or tried something that caused it,,
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he's done
even in top form, he doesnt have a back
5th tier @ best
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he's done
even in top form, he doesnt have a back
5th tier @ best
mid 20's bro, some of the successful pros of today hadn't even won a local show at AV's age, so he is well ahead of the game, he has 15 years to improve, I would say, if anything, he is just getting warmed up.
I think you guys are jumping the gun here, He will win a pro show in the future, I would wager on this, this guy has a drive like no other.
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how to tear an asshole open
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he's done
even in top form, he doesnt have a back
5th tier @ best
Yeah...you're right....no back.....
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p569/Vincebertolini/cf576d2c9da4a13c55a17a6fe174c52d.jpg)
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Yeah...you're right....no back.....
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p569/Vincebertolini/cf576d2c9da4a13c55a17a6fe174c52d.jpg)
I see the thickness in his lower back, traps and rhomboids, but his lats are average/poor.
Maybe it's his genetics, maybe it's his sloppy row technique... or both..
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how to tear an asshole open
Thats easy, these guys have nothing on me, :D let me know when someone can pull the lid off a beer bottle with their fingers like me, then we are talking ;D
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Yeah...you're right....no back.....
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p569/Vincebertolini/cf576d2c9da4a13c55a17a6fe174c52d.jpg)
Would.
He probably did terribly in Toronto because he got rid of this glorious hair. Like Samson or whatever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson
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I see the thickness in his lower back, traps and rhomboids, but his lats are average/poor.
Maybe it's his genetics, maybe it's his sloppy row technique... or both..
still a world class back, but lats do need to be brought up. (PS this pic is 3 years old)
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still a world class back, but lats do need to be brought up. (PS this pic is 3 years old)
No pro ever brings up anything. There is no 'bringing up weak points' at this level.
He can only get bigger overall but the back will remain a relative weak point.
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No pro ever brings up anything. There is no 'bringing up weak points' at this level.
He can only get bigger overall but the back will remain a relative weak point.
this
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Leave Antoine alone!!!
:D
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No pro ever brings up anything. There is no 'bringing up weak points' at this level.
He can only get bigger overall but the back will remain a relative weak point.
Great point.
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All camaraderie here
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how to tear an asshole open
he wouldnt last 2 minutes in a man's world
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he wouldnt last 2 minutes in a man's world
THOSE ARE THE ARMS U WANT THO,,
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how to tear an asshole open
holy shmokes! WAs That was G-Diesel at 00:30 !?!?!
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holy shmokes! WAs That was G-Diesel at 00:30 !?!?!
no thats NaturalGuy the Manager at Universal nutrition
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Toronto Bonus Video: Can Antoine beat Furious Pete drinking beer?
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THOSE ARE THE ARMS U WANT THO,,
yep
centipony has sick arms
saw them up close irl (no homo)
sickening
(monster gut tho, looked like he swallowed a minifridge
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Toronto Bonus Video: Can Antoine beat Furious Pete drinking beer?
Is one of these women Ant's gf, or is he still with that tranny?
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Is one of these women Ant's gf, or is he still with that tranny?
the females in the beginning of the video were franks Older girlfrind/ good friend now i think, the older lady in the corner was franks mother , not sure who the asian check was
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They all looked like shit, except for the one sitting on Antoine's right, although she had too much attitude, as if she never gorged her self into a sugar induced coma.
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the females in the beginning of the video were franks Older girlfrind/ good friend now i think, the older lady in the corner was franks mother , not sure who the asian check was
You're well informed, bro.
I love that Asian slutty, assuming it isn't a trap :-X
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They all looked like shit, except for the one sitting on Antoine's right, although she had too much attitude, as if she never gorged her self into a sugar induced coma.
the one next to Antonie is the chick in white
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/c/9/c9f5a_ORIG-frank.jpg)
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Jersey Shore in July
Friday, 7/19/13, 7pm
Diamond Gym
Saturday, 7/20/13, 5pm
Atilis Gym
3015 Pacific Ave
Wildwood, NJ 08260
Sunday, 7/21/13, 4pm
Pure Focus
163 Van Zile Rd
Brick, NJ 08724
Monday, 7/22/13, 7pm
Apollon Gym
160 Talmadge Rd
Edison NJ 08817
Tuesday, 7/23/13, 7pm
Strong & Shapely
150 Union Ave
East Rutherford, NJ 07073
Wednesday, 7/24/13, 7pm
Chiseled Health
1280 North Ave
Plainfield, NJ 07062
Thursday, 7/25/13, 7pm
Fitness City
20 High St
Matawan NJ 07747
Friday, 7/26/13, 7pm
Pearl Street Gym
515 Bath Ave
Long Branch, NJ 07740
Saturday, 7/27/13, 5pm
Brigantine Fitness
4288 Harbor Beach Blvd
Brigantine, NJ 08203
* Times and dates might change so be sure to check before even day
http://www.universalusa.com/Community/Forum/Live/Universal-Road-Trips-URT/2013-New-Jersey-URT-Gym-List
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Chocolate peanut butter oatmeal Antoine and Frank McGrath style
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Lol at the dog humping franks leg
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Why in the hell is he eating like that?
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Why in the hell is he eating like that?
Why so serious?
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(http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/63c4c646d37211e2b7d622000a1f968a_7.jpg)
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(http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/63c4c646d37211e2b7d622000a1f968a_7.jpg)
465 STRONG...
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Why so serious?
Because Acid reflux is no fun.
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Because Acid reflux is no fun.
True that, but oats with some whey is easy to digest.
However, if it was a typical oriental meal, it would be a different story :-X
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Antoine Vaillant and Tony Searle legs with Greg Long 1 week out of 2011 Canadian Nationals
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151717129840170&set=vb.159083124113517&type=2&theater
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Antoine Vaillant and Tony Searle legs with Greg Long 1 week out of 2011 Canadian Nationals
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151717129840170&set=vb.159083124113517&type=2&theater
Old school equipment, screaming Italians & classical music... great place!
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Jersey Shore in July #2
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Jersey Shore in July #3
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It's always fun to hear BLP, just telling it like it is :D
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these guys are fucking losers
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"so whats your weakest points?" " my hams and my glutes" "no i think its your face" thats fucd up.. antoine obviously reads gb
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these guys are fucking losers
all macho attitude and teenage behavior until they die at 45.
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all macho attitude and teenage behavior until they die at 45.
The drugs amplify all of that. Maybe they will die young, but at least they're living the life now. 95% of the people who post on GB will never be able to do that.
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... until they die at 45.
you say it like it's a bad thing ;D
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these guys are fucking losers
This post tells me you have no friends due to your negative attitude, and are full of jealousy, which you aren't even aware of.
Yes, I judged your life based on one post.
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:)
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:)
LOL yes!! The reason why AV is my favorite bidybuilder
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buying Rev. that's vodka mixed with caffeine. tastes like a blue popsicle. lethal fucking drink. similar to 4 Loko but tastes better.
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Is he still with that tranny?
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Antoine's new Q & A
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Antoine, Mike, Cedric, and Frank train legs in June
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Antoine in Switzerland Day 1
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Very cool gym, I have good memories to Zurich..
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+20 Francs for 2 pieces of chocolate? Welcome to Swiss..
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Part 1 of Day 2
DroppingPlates posted part 2- the box for his girlfriend was 20 Francs.
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Antoine in Switzerland Day 3
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That's not even a good looking tranny.
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"so whats your weakest points?" " my hams and my glutes" "no i think its your face" thats fucd up.. antoine obviously reads gb
Yet is too afraid to post here like most pros.
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lol i love how GH15 gets brought up.
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Funny how fast they got rid of BLP when he started talking about drugs and being crazy. They brought in Larry V and bumped BLP right out.
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Chocolate peanut butter oatmeal Antoine and Frank McGrath style
Love AV and FM vids! I don't care where AV places his vids are the best!
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Yet is too afraid to post here like most pros.
Nah, he calls himself Psychopath ;)
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I've never actually watched AV's vid's... maybe it's my my bloodsugar being like 42 right now, but the vids are actually funny and entertaining.
wtf's with blp and the Adderall endorsement?@! lol
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you say it like it's a bad thing ;D
we can't all live as long as Nasser.
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I've never actually watched AV's vid's... maybe it's my my bloodsugar being like 42 right now, but the vids are actually funny and entertaining.
wtf's with blp and the Adderall endorsement?@! lol
I always viewed BLP like a leader but turns out he is just another gh15 little follower bitch, like the lot of them, fucken embarrassing. :-[
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I always viewed BLP like a leader but turns out he is just another gh15 little follower bitch, like the lot of them, fucken embarrassing. :-[
Jerome Ferguson knows how to deal with that ;)
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I've never actually watched AV's vid's... maybe it's my my bloodsugar being like 42 right now, but the vids are actually funny and entertaining.
wtf's with blp and the Adderall endorsement?@! lol
BLP is pretty vocal about not giving a fuck and doing drugs allot. X, coke, etc. Funny cause his "mentor" is so anti party drugs
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BLP is pretty vocal about not giving a fuck and doing drugs allot. X, coke, etc. Funny cause his "mentor" is so anti party drugs
guess I never saw posts like that. don't really go around rxmuscle anymore since I got a virus from their site and toasted one of my pc's.... I guess things are better now, but still.
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Jerome Ferguson knows how to deal with that ;)
Jerome should have knocked him out. That would have been funny a hell.
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Jerome should have knocked him out. That would have been funny a hell.
Why would he? BLP is like Shitzo, a bit recalcitrant.. loves a joke, but isn't harmful to others.
He was a charismatic guy on this forum.
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Why would he? BLP is like Shitzo, a bit recalcitrant.. loves a joke, but isn't harmful to others.
He was a charismatic guy on this forum.
I know I am entertained by BLP. But since Jerome was talking about how everyone should love each other and themselves, it would have been entertaining. I am just looking for laughs and entertainment on here.
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Barbados Labour Party?
Berwin Leighton Paisner?
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I know I am entertained by BLP. But since Jerome was talking about how everyone should love each other and themselves, it would have been entertaining. I am just looking for laughs and entertainment on here.
True that, it would be fun for a staged action. Jerome may sound like a hippy, but his message is good.
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Barbados Labour Party?
Berwin Leighton Paisner?
Benoit LaPierre
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I always viewed BLP like a leader but turns out he is just another gh15 little follower bitch, like the lot of them, fucken embarrassing. :-[
yeah i was disapointed with him to..not that i think he cares lol
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Jerome Ferguson knows how to deal with that ;)
this guy seems pathetic
"i have self essteem issueee"
ok but why say that on interview
why
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this guy seems pathetic
"i have self essteem issueee"
ok but why say that on interview
why
Benoit doesn't take himself too seriously.
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Jerome Ferguson knows how to deal with that ;)
WTF MAN
Fuck Jerome handle this shit very well !!!!
I never even watched a video about that dude before, not a fan of his physique either altought he looked great 10 years ago, but I am not a fan because of that video
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WTF MAN
Fuck Jerome handle this shit very well !!!!
I never even watched a video about that dude before, not a fan of his physique either altought he looked great 10 years ago, but I am not a fan because of that video
Jerome is cool shit bro.
BLP is making a total idiot of himself.
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Jerome is cool shit bro.
BLP is making a total idiot of himself.
I'm all about being open to talk about drugs, and I'll answer questions about it if I am asked (most of the time)
but I find it stupid to bring the subject up by itself, especially on the street with a guy that doesn't even know you
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Jerome Ferguson knows how to deal with that ;)
Its people like that that makes me tell people Im not a bodybuilder when they ask.
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i think in real life i can only discuss roids with "trufrend"
longtime lifting buddies that you know also very close outside of gyms
only very discrete trufrend
not yappingbitches
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I'm all about being open to talk about drugs, and I'll answer questions about it if I am asked (most of the time)
but I find it stupid to bring the subject up by itself, especially on the street with a guy that doesn't even know you
Honesty is nice, but BLP takes it to a whole different level. He really needs to pipe down. He cooked his brain with all that tren and ecstasy. He even mentioned that he needs to take a bunch of meds to keep his head straight.
This is him being normal. I'd hate to see him off his meds. Cool guy but he's taking it a bit too far with the videos. Text and video are vastly different mediums and it's not good what he's doing.
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I've read a lot of BLP's posts over the years, and he's a fucked up guy no doubt. His behavior doesn't surprise me.
Nonetheless, Antoine is a true bodybuilda who has made it without sugar daddy's, stripping, or excessive drug abuse like BLP.
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Honesty is nice, but BLP takes it to a whole different level. He really needs to pipe down. He cooked his brain with all that tren and ecstasy. He even mentioned that he needs to take a bunch of meds to keep his head straight.
This is him being normal. I'd hate to see him off his meds. Cool guy but he's taking it a bit too far with the videos. Text and video are vastly different mediums and it's not good what he's doing.
jerome reeled him in /pushed him aside did his thing,gave him nothing...
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Jerome is cool shit bro.
BLP is making a total idiot of himself.
Brad Rowe posted this to his facebook page: he and Jerome in the commercial for about a second.
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Tremendous looking offseason
Antoine Vaillant Q & A August
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Tremendous looking offseasonshit
Antoine Vaillant Q & A August
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Antoine Vaillant and Mike Johnson Delt workout with John Meadows diet
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Is that a no tank tops allowed place? :D
(http://s12.postimg.org/mgnlnlrx8/2013_10_06_1381068929_1600x900_scrot.jpg)
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Tremendous looking offseason
Antoine Vaillant Q & A August
A pro, but he can't afford an air conditioner.
Universal pimp.
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A pro, but he can't afford an air conditioner.
Universal pimp.
That is Canada. Most of the year is not about staying cool.
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Antoine and the Macho Nacho
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Antoine and Mike Team Macho
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Antoine and Mike Team Macho
hahaha seems like a getbigger
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hahaha seems like a getbigger
Hamburgerz, hormonez, garage liftz and sunglassez...
SOON...
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In true getbig style. Smashed ASSHOLES. The guy is 250 pounds of smashed assholes.
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Antoine's Q & A October 2013
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Antoine's Q & A October 2013
Intermittent fasting in a bulk phase.. ::)
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Antoine's Pumped-kin shake
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Antoine's Power Pudding
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Chicken Heart Nuggets
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Antoine's Q & A September 2013
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE "NO FEAR" JOHNSON - QC BODYBUILDING TOUR DAY 1&2
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Chicken Heart Nuggets
going to try this one...always been curious
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Is that a no tank tops allowed place? :D
(http://s12.postimg.org/mgnlnlrx8/2013_10_06_1381068929_1600x900_scrot.jpg)
It might be. Mike Johnson talks about that among other peeves. The wrestling parts edited in cracked me up.
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It might be. Mike Johnson talks about that among other peeves. The wrestling parts edited in cracked me up.
calm with a sense of humor. thanks for posting.
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big ro looks just as good
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Mike Johnson is a fat fuck. Glad I could help.
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It might be. Mike Johnson talks about that among other peeves. The wrestling parts edited in cracked me up.
Mike is cool as shit, this guy says it how it is, no BS. 8)
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Mike is cool as shit, this guy says it how it is, no BS. 8)
Do u know these guys OTH? Being in Canada's bbing scene and all
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Do u know these guys OTH? Being in Canada's bbing scene and all
Not friends with them but I have met them both a few times, Antoine actually worked the stage together at the Fouad show with me, he was the commentator and I was the stage Marshal in Sept, I will dig up a picture.
These guys are humble, very nice and they are funny to boot. They are workaholics and down to earth. Everyone loves them, especially if you ever meet them
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Not friends with them but I have met them both a few times, Antoine actually worked the stage together at the Fouad show with me, he was the commentator and I was the stage Marshal in Sept, I will dig up a picture.
These guys are humble, very nice and they are funny to boot. They are workaholics and down to earth. Everyone loves them, especially if you ever meet them
McGrath seems like a great guy too and has been to hell and back with his injuries.
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me, Antoine and Fouad 8)
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me, Antoine and Fouad 8)
I never can figure out wtf race you are mixed with. Lol.
oh, and epic manlet status bro (compared to those 2). How tall are you
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I never can figure out wtf race you are mixed with. Lol.
oh, and epic manlet status bro (compared to those 2). How tall are you
Spain and El Salvador but was born in Costa Rica and now I am a proud Canadian ;)
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Spain and El Salvador but was born in Costa Rica and now I am a proud Canadian ;)
for some reason I thought you were alaskan? Maybe thats chiro flex.
and now that you said it, its obvious. .. youre very much spaniard looking
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me, Antoine and Fouad 8)
looking good bro
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oth is great people
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me, Antoine and Fouad 8)
3 large dudes,,
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for some reason I thought you were alaskan? Maybe thats chiro flex.
and now that you said it, its obvious. .. youre very much spaniard looking
cool, also I am 5 9 height.
8)
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lovely blouse, so 80s
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It might be. Mike Johnson talks about that among other peeves. The wrestling parts edited in cracked me up.
Standing right in front of the rack... There's a shadow boxer in my gym who does that every single time.
People should sign a gym etiquette contract, lol
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for some reason I thought you were alaskan? Maybe thats chiro flex.
and now that you said it, its obvious. .. youre very much spaniard looking
👌😎
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:D ;D
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Antoine Vaillant November Q & A
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE "NO FEAR" JOHNSON - QUEBEC TOUR DAY 3 : QUEBEC CITY
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I like ;)
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he is a french canadian and like most bodybuilders who get in the higher circles only english would be used . . bodybuilding is almost purely american in the higher grounds
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE "NO FEAR" JOHNSON - QUEBEC TOUR DAY 3 : QUEBEC CITY
holy shit antoine is strong in the deadlifts
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holy shit antoine is strong in the deadlifts
But still below the IFBB ladder, he should focus more on competing.
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But still below the IFBB ladder, he should focus more on competing.
i know i'm a bit unrealistic
but i dont think he looks impressive sitting there in his q&a videos
i mean look at this, this is fucking impressiivvv
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i know i'm a bit unrealistic
but i dont think he looks impressive sitting there in his q&a videos
i mean look at this, this is fucking impressiivvv
Ronnie has his genes from outer space and is in competition shape on those pics, impossible to compare..
Comparing him with Mike Liberatore (similar build) would be more fair.
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ANTOINE'S,leading up to show shape/gym video's he looks great,delts/arms/legs when ripped or close.when he's bigger offseason softer less impressive but i'm sure he look's large in person,when he's on top of his game he looks pretty crazy.
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ANTOINE'S,leading up to show shape/gym video's he looks great,delts/arms/legs when ripped or close.when he's bigger offseason softer less impressive but i'm sure he look's large in person,when he's on top of his game he looks pretty crazy.
He's def not 'small' with his 270 pounds, but he has a big head, same 'issue' as Lee Labrada.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE "NO FEAR" JOHNSON - QUEBEC TOUR DAY 3 : QUEBEC CITY
Guy's just got a great personality!
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE JOHNSON - QUEBEC TOUR - ATLANTIS GYM
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antonio's training methods seem pretty sophisticated
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holy shit antoine is strong in the deadlifts
he is strong in DL but still has a rally shitty back
he did start in Powerlifting before BB
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antonio's training methods seem pretty sophisticated
25th in the O next year.
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25th in the O next year.
You mean he will sitting in the 25th row.. ;)
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You mean he will sitting in the 25th row.. ;)
Yes back there with Mr Rourke and Tattoo.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE JOHNSON - QUEBEC TOUR - PRESTIGE FITNESS IN LASALLE
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i like antoine but this mike johnson guy is a dork.
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Antoine's "What Supp?" #4: Shock Therapy
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he is strong in DL but still has a rally shitty back
he did start in Powerlifting before BB
lol no he didn't he did his first bodybuilding show at 16 years old
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NORMAL SUCKS!
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: December 2013
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NORMAL SUCKS!
Guy has a stellar personality!
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wtf
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wtf
I remember BLP as an entertaining and honest guy on this forum, but not always easy to follow, LOL
His face is starting to look like DA, not a good sign :-\
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I remember BLP as an entertaining and honest guy on this forum, but not always easy to follow, LOL
His face is starting to look like DA, not a good sign :-\
[/quote You can put his name on the list.
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You can put his name on the list.
In his case a kidney, a drug overdose or a jump from a high object..
It's sad tho... :-\
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I remember BLP as an entertaining and honest guy on this forum, but not always easy to follow, LOL
His face is starting to look like DA, not a good sign :-\
he's a bit confusing a bit ambivalent on the whole gh15 thing
representing but mocking the same time
seems insecure
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - THE LAST SET OF 2013
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This must have been on a misplaced memory card. Almost 3 years later it gets posted.
Antoine Vaillant and David Hoffman Train Day After The Arnold 2011
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wtf
This is really sad to see. I like BLP but he is completely naive to who gh15 is. He is stuck from two years ago, before all the meltdowns and madness happened. He needs to stop promoting him before he loses all credibility.
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This is really sad to see. I like BLP but he is completely naive to who gh15 is. He is stuck from two years ago, before all the meltdowns and madness happened. He needs to stop promoting him before he loses all credibility.
I lost respect for blp after this video, it is sad on so many levels, first of all these guys Antoine and Frank, who are professionals and hold themselves well do not want to be in this shitty ass video being portrayed on an open source website, second, they do not want to be put on spot to talk about juice, they are under contract and that should be respected.
Not to mention what a kissing of gh15 ass this is.
Fuckman :-[ :-[
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I lost respect for blp after this video, it is sad on so many levels, first of all these guys Antoine and Frank, who are professionals and hold themselves well do not want to be in this shitty ass video being portrayed on an open source website, second, they do not want to be put on spot to talk about juice, they are under contract and that should be respected.
Not to mention what a kissing of gh15 ass this is.
Fuckman :-[ :-[
Yeah, it's rather sad than funny. Benoit is a very impulsive guy, he says what he thinks and he acts how he feels. The first thing that annoyed me on that Stalin-like forum was this ass-kissing behavior, there was no room for an honest discussion.
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Yeah, it's rather sad than funny. Benoit is a very impulsive guy, he says what he thinks and he acts how he feels. The first thing that annoyed me on that Stalin-like forum was this ass-kissing behavior, there was no room for an honest discussion.
the very truth they preached was compromised by their own agendas, very sad and laughable, anyway, all of them are welcome here were we tell the truth and treat everyone fairly, a bit harsh but fairly.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - JUJIMUFU - CEDRIC DOYON - GaRAGE
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE JOHNSON - QUEBEC TOUR - POWER GYM DRUMMONDVILLE
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Wicked Wheels with Antoine Vaillant and Gary Turner
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12 weeks out of the New York Pro
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12 weeks out of the New York Pro
great phyique.
almost perfect
will go dead last again.
sadly.
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DUDE has a great build,256??doesn't look it,he has huge legs so maybe,i think offseason he's softer maybe then he looks it,he's leaned out quick from last vid's.he looks great in gym/lockerroom.but last shows he lost in on stage.
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great phyique.
almost perfect
will go dead last again.
sadly.
X2
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DUDE has a great build,256??doesn't look it,he has huge legs so maybe,i think offseason he's softer maybe then he looks it,he's leaned out quick from last vid's.he looks great in gym/lockerroom.but last shows he lost in on stage.
U are use to seeing midget BB. He weighs that much because he isn't a midget.
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great phyique.
almost perfect
will go dead last again.
sadly.
Because on stage he looks terrible. And I don't know if he has improved his back.
What is it about Canadian bodybuilders, they either have structural flaws, poor back detail (Paul Dillett) or are run of the mill (Henderson Thorne).
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U are use to seeing midget BB. He weighs that much because he isn't a midget.
forgot yeah he's 5'10 or so...
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forgot yeah he's 5'10 or so...
He is like 5'11 to 6 foot. He looks really tall standing next to Jose and Branch.
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forgot yeah he's 5'10 or so...
Know a couple guys who met him say he is a legit 6'0
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Know a couple guys who met him say he is a legit 6'0
Yup
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He is like 5'11 to 6 foot. He looks really tall standing next to Jose and Branch.
they're 5'1" though
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: February 2014
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Wouldn't mind having a build like antoine 5 years down the road, but I will never see the hype. There is just something missing to his physique that I can't quite put my hand on. And he seems like a great guy...so it bothers me to say this. would love to see him win some pro shows
oh well he's young so hopefully with time
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Wouldn't mind having a build like antoine 5 years down the road, but I will never see the hype. There is just something missing to his physique that I can't quite put my hand on. And he seems like a great guy...so it bothers me to say this. would love to see him win some pro shows
oh well he's young so hopefully with time
a gut?
mangled muscles?
bacon-esque musculature?
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a gut?
mangled muscles?
bacon-esque musculature?
how do i explain this.
As a regular gym rat when I see a pro, I wanna say to myself "damn that guy is a fucking freak show, props".
Not "damn that guy's physique is so much much more better than mine"
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how do i explain this.
As a regular gym rat when I see a pro, I wanna say to myself "damn that guy is a fucking freak show, props".
Not "damn that guy's physique is so much much more better than mine"
I get what youre saying.
I think his delts are pretty freaky.
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: February 2014
presses dont give you round delts
it's the side laterals
ha!
so what are presses actally for then? everybody does a ton of them
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Wouldn't mind having a build like antoine 5 years down the road, but I will never see the hype. There is just something missing to his physique that I can't quite put my hand on. And he seems like a great guy...so it bothers me to say this. would love to see him win some pro shows
oh well he's young so hopefully with time
I think he looks like an average bodybuilder because of his big head. Lee Labrada had the same 'issue'.
His back needs more wideness, but this is prob impossible with his frame.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - PUMP IS THE CURE BOSS TOWELS
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Seems like a genuine funny dude hope he does well in the nypro.
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a gut?
mangled muscles?
bacon-esque musculature?
too tall
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Y'all are really missing the his most serious issue. He's sponsored by universal. They don't pay enough cash to the ifbb to have him win shit. Had he a big sponsor like muscletech or even maybe BSN he would place at least top 3 in every show
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Y'all are really missing the his most serious issue. He's sponsored by universal. They don't pay enough cash to the ifbb to have him win shit. Had he a big sponsor like muscletech or even maybe BSN he would place at least top 3 in every show
No he wouldnt.
I love antoine but he looked like shitballs in new york and toronto.
fat as shit and flat as a pancake.
he will fix that though
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No he wouldnt.
I love antoine but he looked like shitballs in new york and toronto.
fat as shit and flat as a pancake.
he will fix that though
Personally i think it's all the traveling/touring he does. That's gotta be a lot of fun, but it's probably not conducive to showing up in the best shape of his life
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Personally i think it's all the traveling/touring he does. That's gotta be a lot of fun, but it's probably not conducive to showing up in the best shape of his life
Yep.
I dont think he is doing that this year. He already looks a shit ton leaner then he normally is. Great build, very classic.
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No he wouldnt.
I love antoine but he looked like shitballs in new york and toronto.
fat as shit and flat as a pancake.
he will fix that though
Fat as shit, right ::) but anything else is true here.
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Fat as shit, right ::) but anything else is true here.
for an ifbb pro on the third biggest stage in bodybuilding, he was fat as shit.
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for an ifbb pro on the third biggest stage in bodybuilding, he was fat as shit.
Guess you haven't seen his prep pictures & vids. He was shredded with a xmas tree in his lower lat area.
His problem is water control.
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Guess you haven't seen his prep pictures & vids. He was shredded with a xmas tree in his lower lat area.
His problem is water control.
Looking shredded in a bathroom does not mean you will look shredded under the stage lighting. And "water control" is the excuse everyone uses when they come in too fat
Just deal with it, your hero has not come into shape for any of his pro outings
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Looking shredded in a bathroom does not mean you will look shredded under the stage lighting. And "water control" is the excuse everyone uses when they come in too fat
Just deal with it, your hero has not come into shape for any of his pro outings
true,,last minute screw up or flattening out under stage lights 'washed out,few hrs later or day before in hotel room 'world beater 'strange illussion.certain guys for example s ray and labrada actually increased or changed onstage more than what u saw in print or gym,they looked good either way imo..
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Looking shredded in a bathroom does not mean you will look shredded under the stage lighting. And "water control" is the excuse everyone uses when they come in too fat
Just deal with it, your hero has not come into shape for any of his pro outings
My hero, LOL
It's water control, combined with a lack of overall thickness.
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I have witnessed both last minute (hours) miracles and last minute disasters also. Bad water control can really ruin several months preparation.
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: March 2014
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what happened to this mofo ???
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what happened to this mofo ???
(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-frc/918194_301557296661549_1902039918_n.jpg)
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(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-frc/918194_301557296661549_1902039918_n.jpg)
dude has crazy sense humor,has fun,stays jacked,looks better when not on stage lately.if he can dial it in like his pro qualifier maybe,but he's on road trips too much
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Haha, epic!
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Balding, losing response to gear, druggie bodybuilder on the decline...shocker!
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Looking shredded in a bathroom does not mean you will look shredded under the stage lighting. And "water control" is the excuse everyone uses when they come in too fat
Just deal with it, your hero has not come into shape for any of his pro outings
Those guys have no fat. It IS water control. Try eating clean and lower calories for a week and see how much weight you lose. You'll lose "10% bodyfat" in a week.
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At Toronto Pro
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(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-frc/918194_301557296661549_1902039918_n.jpg)
would bang everyone pictured (not at once)
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At Toronto Pro
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/1003075_664568873598574_4900285188565332425_n.jpg)
Cartoonesque curves in that red dress :P
Why that hover hand?!
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Cartoonesque curves in that red dress :P
Kyla mcgrath
Frank mcgrath sister
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Kyla mcgrath
Frank mcgrath sister
Sisters of IFBB pros, you know your stuff 8)
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Kyla mcgrath
Frank mcgrath sister
She is hot.
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would bang everyone pictured (not at once)
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Yup. Would. Absolutely for sure.
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: June 2014
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: July 2014
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lmao @ frank mcgrath around 09:00
freaky
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lmao @ frank mcgrath around 09:00
freaky
Frank is awesome!
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Frank is awesome!
he sure is
one freaky man
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Forget your abc1s, antoine goes for the broski demographic.
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antoine has regressed a lot
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antoine has regressed a lot
He was happier and better when in the relationship with the transgendered dude. Seriously.
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antoine has regressed a lot
yea , big time , just seems to keep getting smaller and smaller every video he posts
Universal just cant seem to keep their sponsored "ATHLETES" motivated to win shows
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yea , big time , just seems to keep getting smaller and smaller every video he posts
Universal just cant seem to keep their sponsored "ATHLETES" motivated to win shows
Antoine and frank mc grath prob brought in greater earnings for their sponsors than people like kai or vic ever did. I couldn't name kai's sponsor off top off head just remember they did beef protein, but I remember antoine's. Never bought either.
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Antoine and frank mc grath prob brought in greater earnings for their sponsors than people like kai or vic ever did. I couldn't name kai's sponsor off top off head just remember they did beef protein, but I remember antoine's. Never bought either.
Wont lie, I still buy universal and animal pak products all the time , except protein powder i just like Optimum Nutrition better
Frank and antonie just seem like normal dudes having fun.
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Seriously... does this dude even compete? Does he just take drugs, train and travel the world on Universal's dime? I never heard of this guy outside of this thread.
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Does a man need more in this world than a 25 page thread just about him on getbig? Even Obama doesn't get that.
He made it.
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Does a man need more in this world than a 25 page thread just about him on getbig? Even Obama doesn't get that.
He made it.
shizzo and joon get 50 page threads. Internet millionaires.
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Thought this guy died! Did what? One or two shows??
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He seems very distracted
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He seems very distracted
He reminds me to an impulsive ADHD clown in my gym. He only trains arms, delts & chest and walks though the gym like he just sniffed a few lines of coke.
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He reminds me to an impulsive ADHD clown in my gym. He only trains arms, delts & chest and walks though the gym like he just sniffed a few lines of coke.
guy has sick legs..can't seem to focus and do show 100 pct,,,like he's downgraded to big gymrat,,not that there's anything wrong with that..
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guy has sick legs..can't seem to focus and do show 100 pct,,,like he's downgraded to big gymrat,,not that there's anything wrong with that..
Def better legs than that clown in my gym (any mature woman has better calves..)
He's a great & smart guy, loves to train hard and eat well (apart from those eating contests), but I think he misses consistency (ADHD?). The typical pro bodybuilding lifestyle might be too boring for him.
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Def better legs than that clown in my gym (any mature woman has better calves..)
He's a great & smart guy, loves to train hard and eat well (apart from those eating contests), but I think he misses consistency (ADHD?). The typical pro bodybuilding lifestyle might be too boring for him.
I AGREE ITS ALL GOOD,,,I THINK IT BORES HIM THE REAL 100PCT LIFESTYLE TO COMPETE...YOU HAVE TO BE ON A CONSISTENT ROLL TO PLACE OR PLACE WELL YR AND YR OUT,,,HE'S MORE OUT THAN IN....GREAT GENES THO...
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He was happier and better when in the relationship with the transgendered dude. Seriously.
Was it not mr Goliath who was together with a tranny?
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You think it's gonna bum Antoine out when he finds out he's been hanging out in public with the Trainer?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=551019.msg7734193#msg7734193
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You think it's gonna bum Antoine out when he finds out he's been hanging out in public with the Trainer?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=551019.msg7734193#msg7734193
LOL!
Maybe you can give Ant some 'guidance' towards a pro career?
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LOL!
Maybe you can give Ant some 'guidance' towards a pro career?
Haha Pro career as a WHAT? Sidekick to a wacky black lady? He's already pretty experienced at being jacked and hanging out. He just has to not touch my hair and sometimes engage in str8-4-pay, and he's golden. Promotion before next quarter.
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Was it not mr Goliath who was together with a tranny?
Took me a few minutes to figure out who "Goliath" was.
Haha, then I remembered this...
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465752.0;attach=580202;image)
Little guy is just about to fart.
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Took me a few minutes to figure out who "Goliath" was.
Haha, then I remembered this...
:D
Or was it Golias? Anyways, big dude, all the way big dude.
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Ron looking not to happy as well , wonder if thats' Ron's Personal Orange Chicken chef ???
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Haha Pro career as a WHAT? Sidekick to a wacky black lady? He's already pretty experienced at being jacked and hanging out. He just has to not touch my hair and sometimes engage in str8-4-pay, and he's golden. Promotion before next quarter.
OK, I was exaggerating a bit with "pro career", but damn, he needs way more consistency in order to become competitive.
Str8-4-pay with a wacky black lady might might serve as a nice weekend cheat meal.
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Ron looking not to happy as well , wonder if thats' Ron's Personal Orange Chicken ???
Lmao
Antoine seems like he's enjoying life
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OK, I was exaggerating a bit with "pro career", but damn, he needs way more consistency in order to become competitive.
Str8-4-pay with a wacky black lady might might serve as a nice weekend cheat meal.
Nicest thing anyone's said to me on Getbig maybe ever.
Meanwhile, I guess it depends on what Antoine's goals are. Who knows if he even still wants to compete. At the moment he's doing pretty well as an Andy Haman type - crazy outfits, ridiculous videos, recognizable face, traveling on someone else's dime, getting paid to lift, joke around, and wear an Animal shirt. Plus, if he's not in hardcore contest prep during the year like most, he's probably pocketing a lot more money than a lot of dudes, spending less on las drogas.
I would love to see him kick ass on stage too, but anyone with a good head on their shoulders knows no one is really MAKING any money JUST by competing, so if he's found a way to take home a check and cut out the competition part altogether, maybe good for him? He looks happier than a lot of pros, I'll tell you that. He's having a blast, he's got a partner he fancies, he's still bigger than the average bro, and he can sometimes eat indian food because he doesn't have some kind of "x weeks out" calendar. Jose Raymond is a good example of the opposite.
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Lmao
Antoine seems like he's enjoying life
which explains his regression
bodybuilding requires the total opposite
in fact any sport does
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"...he's got a partner he fancies..."
A few months ago in a 'dashboard vid' he said that his relationship was over. I guess he was referring to that trannie.
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Meanwhile, I guess it depends on what Antoine's goals are. Who knows if he even still wants to compete. At the moment he's doing pretty well as an Andy Haman type - crazy outfits, ridiculous videos, recognizable face, traveling on someone else's dime, getting paid to lift, joke around, and wear an Animal shirt. Plus, if he's not in hardcore contest prep during the year like most, he's probably pocketing a lot more money than a lot of dudes, spending less on las drogas.
I would love to see him kick ass on stage too, but anyone with a good head on their shoulders knows no one is really MAKING any money JUST by competing, so if he's found a way to take home a check and cut out the competition part altogether, maybe good for him? He looks happier than a lot of pros, I'll tell you that. He's having a blast, he's got a partner he fancies, he's still bigger than the average bro, and he can sometimes eat indian food because he doesn't have some kind of "x weeks out" calendar. Jose Raymond is a good example of the opposite.
Has a nice place in Montreal (Jose lives above someones garage) and enjoys life. I get hungry watching the videos because they are always eating out at great places.
Dude at the beginning looks like a big boy and Frank makes an appearance.
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Looks 10x better than the bunch of rejects in the lower placings at mr O like J. Jackson or "Jo Jo". I'm guessing he makes more money off youtube and touring than chasing the plastic trophy? Seems like a relaxed dude who doesn't take himself overly serious.
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Took me a few minutes to figure out who "Goliath" was.
Haha, then I remembered this...
Titty Boy!
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Those modern Technogym lines are like 'gym ebola'..
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Antoine Vaillant Q&A: September 2014
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Size for Seventy with IFBB Pro Bodybuilder Antoine Vaillant
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On his Facebook he says he was engaged oct 2007? To Katiana de Los santos?
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Size for Seventy with IFBB Pro Bodybuilder Antoine Vaillant
7 Days food for $70
3 x 2lb packs of beef, that equates to a pound of beef a day.
Keep lifting Antoine, maths aint for you.
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http://youtu.be/-cOgpbBrPt0 (http://youtu.be/-cOgpbBrPt0)
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So did Antoine make his best gains when he was getting testosterone 'direct from the source' as Lee Priest would put it.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - BUFF SANTA INVADES POWERLIFTING CONTEST
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This fucker is awesome :D
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Shriveled and broke within 5 years... :D
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This fucker is awesome :D
Agreed, most entertaining bodybuilder currently.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - BUFF SANTA INVADES POWERLIFTING CONTEST
would you let that tranny schmoe's plaything near your kids, handing out sweets?
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Dennis James, Tanktop Mr Olympia
Toney Freeman, Bathroom Mr Olympia
Antoine Vaillant, Instagram Mr Olympia
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Antoine is an inspirational gym body and seems like a nice guy.
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Dennis James, Tanktop Mr Olympia
Toney Freeman, Bathroom Mr Olympia
Antoine Vaillant, Instagram Mr Olympia
But who is YouTube Mr Olympia and Facebook Mr Olympia? ???
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But who is YouTube Mr Olympia and Facebook Mr Olympia? ???
Youtube Mr 'O top-3, in no particular order: Rich Piano, CT Fletcher and Kali Muscle.
I have no clue about trending builders on Facebook, since I avoid that shit hole.
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Super
I approve
K
xoxo
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Discussing pre-packed meals, gym towels & training..
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Discussing pre-packed meals, gym towels & training..
Seems like that's all he ever talks about. Wish he'd get serious and quit levrone'ing us!
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What happened to this guy? He isn't pushing pro doses cos he kows it will shorten his life not just as a pro but also a human.
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What happened to this guy? He isn't pushing pro doses cos he kows it will shorten his life not just as a pro but also a human.
He's living the life, funded by gym guidos who believe in supplements. How can we blame him for this smart move?
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The ups & downs of life..
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Sounds like he was molested as a kid, tried too make it right with tranny, and now has a serious coke habit he hasn't been able to shake for 3 years
im really reading alot into that shit, probably wrong on every single thing too
Poor guy, all the best to him
The ups & downs of life..
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I am really glad to see Antoine facing up to his situation and hopefully moving forward in a positive direction. I can relate to what he said in that video about pain and distracting yourself from it but then you realise distracting yourself is not the answer. It is a temporary answer but it can't last by it's very design and then the pain returns but even more intense. I hope he can find focus and happiness in something productive that will benefit him and use this as a valuable lesson for the rest of his life.
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I can easily relate to Antoine here, been in heavy party stuff, lost size, got it back, still dabble within reason, I hope Antoine can find his balance as we all seek....
He still has time and all of this lived, will make him stronger. We all fuck up somewhere, better now and get it done with.
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Man poor guy, I could feel his pain through the video. I'm really glad he caught himself before things got tiday bad. Being molested as a kid will fuck you up bad if you don't deal with it and even then you will never be 100%
I wish him the best
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Discussing pre-packed meals, gym towels & training..
ive never seen such a stupid way of opening up a bag of French fries
Guys like him add to the image of the dumb meathead
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Man poor guy, I could feel his pain through the video. I'm really glad he caught himself before things got tiday bad. Being molested as a kid will fuck you up bad if you don't deal with it and even then you will never be 100%
I wish him the best
x2
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ive never seen such a stupid way of opening up a bag of French fries
Guys like him add to the image of the dumb meathead
He's just trolling, so you're a dumb person yourself.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - A DELT AND BICEPS WORKOUT WITH FRIENDS
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The ups & downs of life..
If only this fella had seen this video.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Demayo52.jpg)
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The ups & downs of life..
Antoine, if you are reading this:
"Quem muda Deus ajuda"
Stay strong.
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The guy is opening his heart and you pricks step on him.
Let's be nice!
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The guy is opening his heart and you pricks step on him.
Let's be nice!
Only on Getbig..
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"My life is a life like any other life"...
Deep thoughts with the bodybuilding cousin of Jack Handy, "Jack Meoff". This treatist by a modern day Sophist might have been made even more deepified if he had but chosen better props.
A teddy bear for example, held close to him (instead of those damnable pillows ----OH! But to be one of those pillows!) would have given emotional bonding (and boners) to countless schmoes...
I...I can't go on. Even I, as masculine and totally no homo as any of us can possibly be am shaken to my very scrotum centered core by this mighty mediator of massivity. I cannot go on. It's as if Antoine were a god. Not THE God, mind you. Just a lesser god like maybe one in charge of minor things like rain or wind or thongs. Yes...The god of thongs.
I'm certain my friends you all know exactly what I am going through right now. Its probably safe to say that we're all trudging our personal trail of tears for Antoine...*SNIF*...
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Man poor guy, I could feel his pain through the video. I'm really glad he caught himself before things got tiday bad. Being molested as a kid will fuck you up bad if you don't deal with it and even then you will never be 100%
I wish him the best
Where did you guys see the molested part? I watched the vid and didn't get that vibe, did I miss something?
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"My life is a life like any other life"...
Deep thoughts with the bodybuilding cousin of Jack Handy, "Jack Meoff". This treatist by a modern day Sophist might have been made even more deepified if he had but chosen better props.
A teddy bear for example, held close to him (instead of those damnable pillows ----OH! But to be one of those pillows!) would have given emotional bonding (and boners) to countless schmoes...
I...I can't go on. Even I, as masculine and totally no homo as any of us can possibly be am shaken to my very scrotum centered core by this mighty mediator of massivity. I cannot go on. It's as if Antoine were a god. Not THE God, mind you. Just a lesser god like maybe one in charge of minor things like rain or wind or thongs. Yes...The god of thongs.
I'm certain my friends you all know exactly what I am going through right now. Its probably safe to say that we're all trudging our personal trail of tears for Antoine...*SNIF*...
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85e8mw00m1rqfhi2o1_250.gif)
Gold ;D!
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Yet he keep injectings drugs and promoting drug use... what an hypocrit. You realize you re shortening your own life expectancy with these chemicals that artificially alterate your mood and make your euphorical all the time. The crash will be harder when you ll have to quit using. You re basically self medicating yourself with hormones which act as anti depressants. Want to go back the right path? Stop using steroids, keep lifting naturally and promote the natural lifestyle, and do something better of your life. Tell the truth, you re all 170 lbs without the drugs. Welcome to real life.
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Its not nice to be rude to retard people. Its not his fault the brain capacity of his is weak! Lets be nice! :D
A 15 year old brain in a grown mans body! Not an easy task to handle!
I could take 20 second of his talk! I don't know if he said anything clever, I doubt!
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Yet he keep injectings drugs and promoting drug use... what an hypocrit. You realize you re shortening your own life expectancy with these chemicals that artificially alterate your mood and make your euphorical all the time. The crash will be harder when you ll have to quit using. You re basically self medicating yourself with hormones which act as anti depressants. Want to go back the right path? Stop using steroids, keep lifting naturally and promote the natural lifestyle, and do something better of your life. Tell the truth, you re all 170 lbs without the drugs. Welcome to real life.
Just because you can't break the 170 barrier, does not mean it's impossible for the rest of us... This is as polite as I will be.
Get real, you just suck.
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Yet he keep injectings drugs and promoting drug use... what an hypocrit. You realize you re shortening your own life expectancy with these chemicals that artificially alterate your mood and make your euphorical all the time. The crash will be harder when you ll have to quit using. You re basically self medicating yourself with hormones which act as anti depressants. Want to go back the right path? Stop using steroids, keep lifting naturally and promote the natural lifestyle, and do something better of your life. Tell the truth, you re all 170 lbs without the drugs. Welcome to real life.
props to you for being natty - but next to us hormone users you look just like a normal guy does he lift? probably a little, does alot of cardio probably a soccer player thats what people think.
alot of us dont want to look like a soccer player we want to look like animals and im sorry but your own natty production just aint gnna cut it.
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props to you for being natty - but next to us hormone users you look just like a normal guy does he lift? probably a little, does alot of cardio probably a soccer player thats what people think.
alot of us dont want to look like a soccer player we want to look like animals and im sorry but your own natty production just aint gnna cut it.
Aren't u the guy using 1 gram of tren, 1+ grams of test plus all sorts of other shit a wk??
U sound insecure but then again this is a bbing board..... :D
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Whoa dude re-inflates fast!!
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Whoa dude re-inflates fast!!
He is always at that size he just look smaller on some pics cause of the angles
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some cool size ..like to walk around like that for a while..
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R.I.P. Antoine Vaillant, by all accounts he was a good guy, always ready help and unlike so many pros was humble and never arrogant, his life was just like any other life.
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at least he didnt die attempting to ourtun a fucking train.
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That 2nd pic is pretty good.
Big calves, good thigh sweep, vacuum pose....not very wide mind but nice round arms and shoulders too.
Good physique....hope he doesn't ruin it as a professional.
Incredible shape and overall balance in that vacuum dbl bi.
I'm a fan of his physique and curious why he could compete in the IFBB without having his actual pro card?
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DID HE DIED??
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DID HE DIED??
we will all remember him fondly.
he pursued his dream according to his life's motto
"better to live one day as a lion than a 1000 as a lamb".
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Incredible shape and overall balance in that vacuum dbl bi.
I'm a fan of his physique and curious why he could compete in the IFBB without having his actual pro card?
As far as I know he does have his pro card, and has had it since 2012 when he won the Canadian Nationals... Did he compete in an IFBB event before winning the nats that I don't know of?
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=465752.0
a very moving tribute by Antoine's good friend Dan.
The best way that I can describe my friend Antoine is as a friend that would stick by in any weather; he is the type of friend that would stand in a storm, with rain pouring down on his head, holding an umbrella, calmly and carefully, to make sure that my own head did not get wet.
He would ride through a blizzard, to pick me up, if my car had driven through a ditch; in fact, Antoine did do this for me on more than one occasion. Antoine was much more to me than a friend, he was someone that I would consider my family. When times got tough, and troubles hailed all around, the first person I could rely on to be there was Antoine.
Throughout life there are friends that would come and go, but Antoine was always there. It was almost as if Antoine had a sixth sense about me. Sometimes I would be sitting in the middle of the night, feeling blue, solitary and alone, and the next morning I would wake up and find an email from Antoine, asking me how I was feeling. That is just the type of connection that Antoine had to me.
Antoine and I spent over 10 years together, having the kind of friendship that most people only dream of. We went through financial gains and losses together, enjoyed the births of our children together, and the weddings of our children. Antoine was a wonderful person, the first to contribute a kind word of thanks, or word of wisdom when one was called for. He wasn’t the type of person to call attention to himself, unless he felt it would help alleviate tension in a room where tension or stress was building.
He also had a remarkable sense of humor, and quick wit, which I found refreshing, as my own sense of humor is somewhat dulled.
I met Antoine in college, while studying statistics of all things. It isn’t they type of subject one might expect to find a fellow with a sense of humor. Yet Antoine was full of surprises. Antoine and I paired up to start a non-profit together shortly after graduating, and have been working together since, providing community outreach programs for agencies during the daytime, and spending our free time causing trouble whenever we can.
Antoine will be sorely missed by all of us who loved him, and appreciated his commitment and dedication to giving time, devotion, and a sincere appreciation for people regardless of how long he knew them. He was a genuine person that gave not because he had to, but because he wanted to. Thank you Antoine, for being such a good person, with an abundance of love and generosity.
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Wtf? ???
Is he dead for real? How did this happen, was it suicide? Judging from his last video one can suspect that.
Sad to hear it if it's true, he was an entertaining person in an otherwise dull industry.
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he's not dead you retards
Fucking getbig never changes... ::)
And to answer previous posts
- YES pro card at 2012 Canadian Nationals
- YES competed in 2 IFBB shows (NY 2013 and Toronto 2013)
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he's not dead you retards
Fucking getbig never changes... ::)
And to answer previous posts
- YES pro card at 2012 Canadian Nationals
- YES competed in 2 IFBB shows (NY 2013 and Toronto 2013)
how we all wish. another untimely death is just bad for business.
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he's not dead you retards
Fucking getbig never changes... ::)
And to answer previous posts
- YES pro card at 2012 Canadian Nationals
- YES competed in 2 IFBB shows (NY 2013 and Toronto 2013)
You're saying that like it was obvious. In this industry full of homosexual whores, drug dealing, contracted slavery, suicides and mental problems a thing like an early death isn't an unexpected event.
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Holy shit
Rip Antoine
First plitt now him
Rip
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I felt a great disturbance in the Farce. As if millions of schmoes cried out in anguish and were suddenly without their AntoineCam.
Not to worry. Bodybuilders are notoriously lazy and another worthless feck of a manlet will be along shortly to fill the virtual butthole of their loneliness with endless hours of putz pulling dee-lite.
Whatever.
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Did he get hit by a train?
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"the births of our children"
"..while studying statistics of all things"
Some folks are really naive when they believe this is Antoine V. ::)
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Did he get hit by a train?
according to palumbo it was a heart embolism caused by an air bubble trapped in his "slin pin". it's so much more bad ass to say it that way.
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You're saying that like it was obvious. In this industry full of homosexual whores, drug dealing, contracted slavery, suicides and mental problems a thing like an early death isn't an unexpected event.
Ok, granted ,there is an element of that stuff within bodybuilding, but it's only a problem if you want it to be ;D
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You're saying that like it was obvious. In this industry full of homosexual whores, drug dealing, contracted slavery, suicides and mental problems a thing like an early death isn't an unexpected event.
The better the bodybuilder the more mental he is.
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He's not dead.
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He's not dead.
my condolences to the family.
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Glad to see he is living the dream.
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Glad to see he is living the dream.
dreams are for those who sleep.
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dreams are for those who sleep.
Are there things?
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Are there things?
A E I O U and sometimes Y.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - PHASE 7 TRAINING TRY OUT
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I thought he told in that dramatic video that he wanted to focus on his pro career, but he's still training like a moron :-\
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - PHASE 7 TRAINING TRY OUT
is he dead
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Still training like a moron. He should team up again with John Meadows
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dreams are for those who sleep.
I feel for you. I always sleep and dream a lot.
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is he dead
WEIRD CAMERA ANGLE SHOOT'FISHEYE'SCHMOES CAN'T SCHMOE...NO HOMO...
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I need to see pictures of her body...
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Pretty Girl
I need to see pictures of her body...
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Good to see that he ditched the trannie for a woman
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I need to see pictures of her body...
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For some reason I thought he was with that asian chick from the Universal crew... Oh well, this one is pretty too, good for him!
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dem eyebrows....
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - DORIAN HAMILTON - CODY AMEY - FOUAD ABIAD - SYSTEM FITNESS
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ADHDin around with his head cam..
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - DORIAN HAMILTON - CODY AMEY - FOUAD ABIAD - SYSTEM FITNESS
Can't stand that garbage music
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Can't stand that garbage music
Guess you have a hard time @Dest Dallas or wear solid earphones to hear those Modern Talking & Roland Kaiser tunes
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Guess you have a hard time @Dest Dallas or wear solid earphones to hear those Modern Talking & Roland Kaiser tunes
:D ;D
At destination they usually play modern music but sometimes rock, rap etc
I remember at metroflex if ronnie was there 90's and modern rap would always be played, if branch was there hard rock and the rocky soundtrack would be played ;D
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:D ;D
At destination they usually play modern music but sometimes rock, rap etc
I remember at metroflex if ronnie was there 90's and modern rap would always be played, if branch was there hard rock and the rocky soundtrack would be played ;D
So much better than here in Europe... That's the kind of 'shit' I want to hear in a gym, not that faggy mainstream stuff :-X
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couple of 6th tier BB"s doing some uninspiring pump training ::)
ALL DRUGS
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - ST-PATTY'S CHEST/TRICEP DAY
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Cool pic!
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looks pretty good in these recent pics!
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looks pretty good in these recent pics!
He's into the 260's now and aiming for the Nortic Pro. Def upped the dose, food and training.
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looks pretty good in these recent pics!
Let's see how he looks on stage..
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Let's see how he looks on stage..
TRUE,,,HAS A GREAT GYM BUILD,,THE OTHER GUY TOO...
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TRUE,,,HAS A GREAT GYM BUILD,,THE OTHER GUY TOO...
I remember the pics/pics, made during his NY pro prep, where he looked contest ready, but once he stepped on stage he was very small/flat/smooth, so something went very wrong during his last week.
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Why do they stand side ways?
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Why do they stand side ways?
So we can't say wider than heath.
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He's a helluva lot better built than I am.
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serious question
does turning pro mean you get a salary from the ifbb?
this is a rumor i cannot believe
they told me coleman's ifbb salary is like $12,000/month
The IFBB never pays a salary to any pro.
In fact the pro has to pay dues each year to be an active IFBB pro.
The IFBB has no network TV contract or major media coverage.
The pro card merely gives you the chance to compete for prize money.
But the Arnold is a pro invitational , where the promoter has to invite you to compete.
The Olympia is by qualification, which leaves just the handful of lower tier shows to compete in.
Most supplement contracts "pay" in product credit . Only the big name pros get a contract with salary $$ from the supplement companies.
Only a handful of top pros make a good living directly from: contest prize $, guest spots and supplement contracts.
The majority of " fitness models" that work the expo booths get a paid hotel room ,some product and/or $75 bucks .
They mostly work for the "exposure" . What a f'n joke.
I knew most of this and the extreme drug use , early on in my bodybuilding life.
That's why I got an education and career 100% outside of the fitness industry.
I enjoy being a fan now and competed in several, smaller contests for my own enjoyment back in the day.
With very few exceptions, there is no pot of gold at the end of the bodybuilding rainbow. :'(
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Antoine still has time...
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Antoine still has time...
He has, but is he using his time effectively in order to get what it takes to make it as a pro?
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Why do they stand side ways?
Because they wouldn't fit it the pic. Most people stand sideway in pics with more than one person.
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Glutamine & Creatine
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solid 5th tier pro
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one of the few pros that actually has a personality
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one of the few pros that actually has a personality
Then: the more personality, the better placings
Now: the less personality, the better placings
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solid 5th tier pro
How many tiers are there?
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How many tiers are there?
And how are they defined, by their cock size or circumference?
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - DEADLIFT SESSION 25-05-2015
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - DEADLIFT SESSION 25-05-2015
"I pick it uuuup! I poot it dowwwwwn!"
What a turd of a 'tard. All drugs and nothing of any worth, any real value.
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"I pick it uuuup! I poot it dowwwwwn!"
What a turd of a 'tard. All drugs and nothing of any worth, any real value.
Dude... For the longest time Antoine on his path to become a pro would go off cycle. YOu could see it when he was off cycle.
His base was built drug free. So take your all drugs bullshit comment and stick it up your dirty/shitty/stinkiN' asshole.
Would like to see you do a fraction of what he does natty.
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Dude... For the longest time Antoine on his path to become a pro would go off cycle. YOu could see it when he was off cycle.
His base was built drug free. So take your all drugs bullshit comment and stick it up your dirty/shitty/stinkiN' asshole.
Would like to see you do a fraction of what he does natty.
HE is a thick dude period,when he's cooking his body grows tenfold,esp delts/arms/quads
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HE is a thick dude period,when he's cooking his body grows tenfold,esp delts/arms/quads
True. Huge f'in calves as well, you can tell when you see him, not just some other gym rat.
He hit a wall, is trying to get back on his feet. Better this happened at a very early time.
He can still come back.
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Dude... For the longest time Antoine on his path to become a pro would go off cycle. YOu could see it when he was off cycle.
His base was built drug free. So take your all drugs bullshit comment and stick it up your dirty/shitty/stinkiN' asshole.
Would like to see you do a fraction of what he does natty.
How Genova-esque. "Dude", sometimes you make sense but alas, this is not one of them. Too bad because I really don't think you are an idiot at all, just a kid blinded by the Miller High Lifestyle of the "Rich(Piana) and shameless of bodybuilding of which ol' Twan is but one misguided, moronic example.
Antoine is a pile of crap on a shitload of drugs. The only "path" he's on is the one to dialysis.
This assthlete is nothing sans (that means without) his drugs. You are over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool. Run along back to the manlet pool or sprout some legs and crawl out of your personal primordial pool of ignorant fawning.
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How Genova-esque. "Dude", sometimes you make sense but alas, this is not one of them. Too bad because I really don't think you are an idiot at all, just a kid blinded by the Miller High Lifestyle of the "Rich(Piana) and shameless of bodybuilding of which ol' Twan is but one misguided, moronic example.
Antoine is a pile of crap on a shitload of drugs. The only "path" he's on is the one to dialysis.
This assthlete is nothing sans (that means without) his drugs. You are over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool. Run along back to the manlet pool or sprout some legs and crawl out of your personal primordial pool of ignorant fawning.
Manlet?
Almost 6 feet tall man.
Keep shootin' blanks buddy... I guess the fact you have to accuse him of using is reflective to the fact you can't be anything good without them?
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Manlet?
Almost 6 feet tall man.
Keep shootin' blanks buddy... I guess the fact you have to accuse him of using is reflective to the fact you can't be anything good without them?
*SNICKER*
Do I need to explain everything to you? Eventually a tadpole grows legs and exits the pond. As I said, I don't think you are stupid, just blinded by a mild form of hero worship. It happens to everyone and I am certain you will outgrow it.
The only ones not to are schmoes. You, young man, are not a schmoe.
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*SNICKER*
Do I need to explain everything to you? Eventually a tadpole grows legs and exits the pond. As I said, I don't think you are stupid, just blinded by a mild form of hero worship. It happens to everyone and I am certain you will outgrow it.
The only ones not to are schmoes. You, young man, are not a schmoe.
Here is what you do not understand. I am not that far from Antoine and know people who know him. Do you not think that maybe I might know stuff you don't being closer in his area/friends?
Plus... I'd see him once and a while, seeing the before/after changes. He looked natty, c'mon man. Been at this a long ass time and my ability to make sense of these things is rather good.
And hero worship??? LOL!!! When I see him, I don't even go say hello. I let him do his shit and too many people just disrupt him during training. He's a very social guy but not sure at his level how good it is to be disturbed like that intra training when this is YOUR JOB...
I spoke with him once and that was because the setting was appropriate.
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"My life is a life like any other life"...
Deep thoughts with the bodybuilding cousin of Jack Handy, "Jack Meoff". This treatist by a modern day Sophist might have been made even more deepified if he had but chosen better props.
A teddy bear for example, held close to him (instead of those damnable pillows ----OH! But to be one of those pillows!) would have given emotional bonding (and boners) to countless schmoes...
I...I can't go on. Even I, as masculine and totally no homo as any of us can possibly be am shaken to my very scrotum centered core by this mighty mediator of massivity. I cannot go on. It's as if Antoine were a god. Not THE God, mind you. Just a lesser god like maybe one in charge of minor things like rain or wind or thongs. Yes...The god of thongs.
I'm certain my friends you all know exactly what I am going through right now. Its probably safe to say that we're all trudging our personal trail of tears for Antoine...*SNIF*...
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Gold ;D!
This is the, dare I say it, the "Essence of Antoine".
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE "NO FEAR" JOHNSON - PUMPARMGEDDON!
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - BACK IT UP!
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Dude... For the longest time Antoine on his path to become a pro would go off cycle. YOu could see it when he was off cycle.
His base was built drug free. So take your all drugs bullshit comment and stick it up your dirty/shitty/stinkiN' asshole.
Would like to see you do a fraction of what he does natty.
What is he usually running for cycles?
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What is he usually running for cycles?
That... I don't know.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - BACK CARNAGE - 15.69 WEEKS OUT
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You don't often see a bodybuilder biking to the gym.
- DP approved!
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back at the 265-270lb range, looking great once again
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Great gym rat build but won't do any damage in the pro ranks.
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Looks almost back to "normal "(good for him/he had lost a shit Ton of size!),won't set the IFBB on fire, but Is Entertaining and has a really good physique ... Great to see him back!
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all i see is pointless self destruction.
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Will never have true success
No one knows who he is
Just a drop in the bucket
But hey he's got big calves I guess
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Looks almost back to "normal "(good for him/he had lost a shit Ton of size!),won't set the IFBB on fire, but Is Entertaining and has a really good physique ... Great to see him back!
Still not IFBB size though but glad to see he is getting there.
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dead by 50
Midget drug addict-
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arms and delts are very good,legs...great structure.shame he can't get total look onstage that gym shots show..comes down to final prep..
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arms and delts are very good,legs...great structure.shame he can't get total look onstage that gym shots show..comes down to final prep..
always watery, that's his Achilles heel... he competes around 245-250..if he were 5lbs less sometimes would be all the difference. Time will tell.
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dead by 50
Midget drug addict-
Some very deep thought and originality to your post.
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Some very deep thought and originality to your post.
All his posts are copy-pasta like
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Will never have true success
No one knows who he is
Just a drop in the bucket
But hey he's got big calves I guess
This. Guy will probably always be pretty average in the IFBB. He should become a 5%er and try and get in on that or something.
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This. Guy will probably always be pretty average in the IFBB. He should become a 5%er and try and get in on that or something.
isn't Antoine with Universal??(that is his "shtick" hardcore and all that... I agree tho he would fit in nicely with Rich Piana or Joey Swoll's team shredz) he makes entertaining videos on his own now ...possible could do well at lower tier shows
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isn't Antoine with Universal??(that is his "shtick" hardcore and all that... I agree tho he would fit in nicely with Rich Piana or Joey Swoll's team shredz) he makes entertaining videos on his own now ...possible could do well at lower tier shows
That would be sad news, since I don't see Ant as a low life thug..
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That would be sad news, since I don't see Ant as a low life thug..
I actually agree with you! (But in
This business if your not winning shows.. You got to mAke money/because it's so fucking expensive (we all know who Joey Swoll's is what the fuck did he ever win? ) every bodybuilder is selling t/shirts/ has a clothing line (that's tapped out) what else can you do personal training? Supplement line is over saturated.. A " real job" would be an answer but you know that ain't happening ...5% for life baby! 😊😉
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I actually agree with you! (But in
This business if your not winning shows.. You got to mAke money/because it's so fucking expensive (we all know who Joey Swoll's is what the fuck did he ever win? ) every bodybuilder is selling t/shirts/ has a clothing line (that's tapped out) what else can you do personal training? Supplement line is over saturated.. A " real job" would be an answer but you know that ain't happening ...5% for life baby! 😊😉
Glad you started this 'real job', because that would be my answer on this utter nonsense. PT is always better than selling snake oil, but I'm only saying that because I do PT as well ;)
I can only hope that Ant stays with Universal, not that I will buy their overprices supps.
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quality 6th tier pro
non existent BDB pose
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Getting his size back slowly but surely ....
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That's him now? Man he still has a ways to go..
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nice pants!
raided his moms closet?
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That's him now? Man he still has a ways to go..
if you saw him a year ago you wouldn't even recognize him (he is definitely
coming back!)
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if you saw him a year ago you wouldn't even recognize him (he is definitely
coming back!)
How much weight do you think he came down? He looked very small (for a pro) in the video discussing his problems. Props to Universal for hanging in with him.
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How much weight do you think he came down? He looked very small (for a pro) in the video discussing his problems. Props to Universal for hanging in with him.
honestly...........a lot (say he is 240-250 now I would guess he was down to like 215 or so?) I'm glad he seems to have conquered his demons.... he looked skinny when I saw him
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Looks almost back to "normal "(good for him/he had lost a shit Ton of size!),won't set the IFBB on fire, but Is Entertaining and has a really good physique ... Great to see him back!
x 2. I think that sums it up well in regards to Ant and his ho hum pro career but large fan base appeal.
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I like Antoine, I'm pulling for him. Did he ever explain what his problems were? I didn't really get a whole lot out of that video he made, it was pretty vague.
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I like Antoine, I'm pulling for him. Did he ever explain what his problems were? I didn't really get a whole lot out of that video he made, it was pretty vague.
He became depressed after a buddy died. He tried some escape routes but the pain was only temporary gone.
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Sounded like he was coping with drugs
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A great pair of delts
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A great pair of delts
YEAH,,,
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"Hey everyone . my fans friends family etc. As you know I been missing in action I been in the hospital I have blood pressure heart kidney tie in problems. The dashow will be postponed I will def come back to that but I'm officially done training for the freak factor. I'm retiring. Hanging it up thanks to all for all the support but life isn't worth being huge"
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pretty crazy and beat that he passed away here on the internet and all to see.shame what he did to himself..
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HIs legs are huge. Actually kinda looks like an obese person when he walks around.
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I'm a "fan" (hope he does well!)
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I'm a "fan" (hope he does well!)
Me too.
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I like his build ,his delts are a bit over tho,,,dude is flat out likeable/cool I bet...
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I like his build ,his delts are a bit over tho,,,dude is flat out likeable/cool I bet...
Yes, his delts are overpowering his chest & arms. I'm looking forward for his next contest pics.
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Kudos for Universal backing him through the ups and downs.
You might see me in some of the "comeback" footage, looks cool as shit!
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Looking big
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he has a weak back
solid 5th tier pro
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How many tiers are there?
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"Animal" stuck by his side (they just released part 1 of "play the tape till the end" about Antoines struggles with addiction) it's pretty good .... He seems to be getting a lot of his size back
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I think Antoine should do physique. I just don't see him every carrying the size to be a top pro.
(gay ass pic with the shirt over his head, c'mon....)
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I think Antoine should do physique. I just don't see him every carrying the size to be a top pro.
(gay ass pic with the shirt over his head, c'mon....)
Too big to be physique. Too small to impact on the pro ranks. But funnily enough I think he looks better than a lot of current pros.
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Too big to be physique. Too small to impact on the pro ranks. But funnily enough I think he looks better than a lot of current pros.
Physique is getting some big dudes. He will always have the same structural flaws and just not cut out to be a top pro. Chest is just too weak, the delts looks rediculous. He's been at this long enough to be able to bring that into proportion. Not a a very good back either when you consider pro standard...
Lack of size and his bf levels are not that low in the pics above.
He looked good when up and coming but really not sure how he can be successful on the stage..
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Physique is getting some big dudes. He will always have the same structural flaws and just not cut out to be a top pro. Chest is just too weak, the delts looks rediculous. He's been at this long enough to be able to bring that into proportion. Not a a very good back either when you consider pro standard...
Lack of size and his bf levels are not that low in the pics above.
He looked good when up and coming but really not sure how he can be successful on the stage..
Fortunately he doesn't appear to need to be. His sponsors have stood by him well. Even if he never competes again I think he's still doing well.
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Fortunately he doesn't appear to need to be. His sponsors have stood by him well. Even if he never competes again I think he's still doing well.
Universal pays SHIT. So not so sure about that...
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Universal pays SHIT. So not so sure about that...
Oh, I don't know anything about that. But at least he gets to travel and have a laugh with his passion. That's more than most.
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Oh, I don't know anything about that. But at least he gets to travel and have a laugh with his passion. That's more than most.
The travelling sucks total ass for training. I think they take guys like him as no pro would put up with that much having to move around. Fuck that. Terrible for what they need to do.
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He looking great in recent pics, Good for him, good guy in deed
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He looking great in recent pics, Good for him, good guy in deed
Looks good, but in most gyms in the US, you got gym rats bigger and better. Not hating as I like Antoine but just don't see this being right for him...
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He can get notoriety by doing some of the smaller shows. Granted he has to come in ultra diced (something that has rarely happened for him) but then they would give him a fair shake.
The only thing he has going for him is the aesthetic physique, and the balanced physique...why ruin that trying to get too big for your own body.
He will be a better bodybuilder, being himself at 100%, rather than turning his physique into a grotesque mess to please the "judges".
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He can get notoriety by doing some of the smaller shows. Granted he has to come in ultra diced (something that has rarely happened for him) but then they would give him a fair shake.
The only thing he has going for him is the aesthetic physique, and the balanced physique...why ruin that trying to get too big for your own body.
He will be a better bodybuilder, being himself at 100%, rather than turning his physique into a grotesque mess to please the "judges".
His delts overpower his chest too much to be labeled "balanced" To play the card that would give him any chance, he needs perfect symmetry.
Weak back, chest, can't be brought up by now, would have to downsize the rest to match hence the reason physique is his only chance now I find.
His legs and calves though could be too big though. Does not pass off as "physique" much.
So if he is kept my Universal, he's damn lucky.
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Draw
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Draw
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After turning the camera...
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - CODY AMEY - 12 & 13 WEEKS OUT - PUNCH IN THE FACE
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What's the point of all these vids, some compulsory deal due to his supplement contracts?
Certainly not going anywhere if he doesn't even enter shows..
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What's the point of all these vids, some compulsory deal due to his supplement contracts?
Certainly not going anywhere if he doesn't even enter shows..
Last I saw he was going to compete in the Nordic Pro. No word from I'm since July.
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Last I saw he was going to compete in the Nordic Pro. No word from I'm since July.
Shame. Really like the guy and find him very entertaining.
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Antoine Update: He's alive
Yes, he will be off the grid for a while getting his life straightened out. I talked to him 2 weeks ago and his head is in the right place.
Quote from NaturalGuy with Universal.
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What's the point of all these vids, some compulsory deal due to his supplement contracts?
Certainly not going anywhere if he doesn't even enter shows..
as if any bbers are going anywhere...
only top 5 or so is making a decent buck
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Chest and Shoulder Workout with Antoine Vaillant
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What's the point of all these vids, some compulsory deal due to his supplement contracts?
Certainly not going anywhere if he doesn't even enter shows..
Yes, he's contracted to make these vids.
He seems to be stagnating. His BBing/Universal gig will not last forever. Hopefully, this guy has another skill-set and a plan B.
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Yes, he's contracted to make these vids.
He seems to be stagnating. His BBing/Universal gig will not last forever. Hopefully, this guy has another skill-set and a plan B.
He's even selling motivational videos
Personalized Motivational Talk Video
It’s a personalized video where I say a few sentences to you, talking about training and motivation in general. Videos are around 2 minutes long. I can say something specific or come up with something myself to say. (Note: Any strange or irregular requests will be refused.) :D
http://www.antoinevaillant.com/store/services/
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Yes, he's contracted to make these vids.
He seems to be stagnating. His BBing/Universal gig will not last forever. Hopefully, this guy has another skill-set and a plan B.
Well I know his people at Universal/animal have come on the boards and said that they talked to him on the phone on and off the past several months and that he said he has stepped back to get his shit together yada yada yada so he should be lucky he still has industry support no matter how well they pay don't pay.
In all seriousness though, I hope that he is actually doing what he says he is doing and not just telling them over the phone what they want to hear ie most bosses/employers would want absolute proof especially if they are honouring a contract or holding a job.
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He's even selling motivational videos
Personalized Motivational Talk Video
It’s a personalized video where I say a few sentences to you, talking about training and motivation in general. Videos are around 2 minutes long. I can say something specific or come up with something myself to say. (Note: Any strange or irregular requests will be refused.) :D
http://www.antoinevaillant.com/store/services/
I've always like the dude but that part on bold is kinda questionable. Was wondering about him the other day. Seems it's taking a long ass time to get back on track. I've gotten myself out of the gutter from a much more serious drug problem than him, did not need no "team" or endless online support.
Anyway, good luck to him but the motivational vids thing is kinda lame.
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I've always like the dude but that part on bold is kinda questionable. Was wondering about him the other day. Seems it's taking a long ass time to get back on track. I've gotten myself out of the gutter from a much more serious drug problem than him, did not need no "team" or endless online support.
Anyway, good luck to him but the motivational vids thing is kinda lame.
From what I've heard, it's rather a partying problem in his case. A close friend of him committed suicide and partying was his way to deal with that.
That bold 'disclaimer' is understandable. Dude prob gets the weirdest requests from schmoes, asking for homoerotic 'motivational' vids.
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From what I've heard, it's tather a partying problem in his case. A close friend of him committed suicide and partying was his way to deal with that.
That bold 'disclaimer' is understandable. Dude prob gets the weirdest requests from schmoes, asking for homoerotic 'motivational' vids.
That's fine and all but all this suicide with the friend stuff took place like what over a year ago, nobody just starts partying and becomes an addict in 10 minutes, this stuff was brewing long before his friend killed himself.
BTW I am not being insensitive, I have known a whack of people(some were friends, some aquaintences) who have passed due to "misadventure" the past 2 years esp, as well as ppl I know who have lost others close to them via murder/suicides and somehow these people have come back from addiction and/or stayed clean during these times, and some of these ppl have every excuse to go back to the "lifestyles" they were in previously
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Loves G and M. Does a ton of G
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That's fine and all but all this suicide with the friend stuff took place like what over a year ago, nobody just starts partying and becomes an addict in 10 minutes, this stuff was brewing long before his friend killed himself.
BTW I am not being insensitive, I have known a whack of people(some were friends, some aquaintences) who have passed due to "misadventure" the past 2 years esp, as well as ppl I know who have lost others close to them via murder/suicides and somehow these people have come back from addiction and/or stayed clean during these times, and some of these ppl have every excuse to go back to the "lifestyles" they were in previously
I'm pretty sure there is/was more going on in his personal life and he indirectly confirms this by saying that this traumatized experience and his way to overcome that (the 'party-escape' route) made him aware that his life is/was fucked up.
He seems to do well in the latest Universal pics (or his he wearing a mask?), but I doubt if we can see him on stage again this year.
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He's alive :D
https://www.facebook.com/AVbodybuilder/videos/947229108665881 (https://www.facebook.com/AVbodybuilder/videos/947229108665881)
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He's alive :D
https://www.facebook.com/AVbodybuilder/videos/947229108665881 (https://www.facebook.com/AVbodybuilder/videos/947229108665881)
Taking a sword to the gym? Hell, why not..
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LOL!
Love the sword... That is so Antoine!
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He's much smaller in that video and again he's pulling 'a Levrone': he vanishes in silence, makes a comeback and repeats..
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He's much smaller in that video and again he's pulling 'a Levrone': he vanishes in silence, makes a comeback and repeats..
his 'small'is still pretty jacked,,,when he's down he gets soft and loses that pop.as soon as he's full on his delts and legs are insane ,he just can't keep it going tho,,he's like a video gymrat now .
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his 'small'is still pretty jacked,,,when he's down he gets soft and loses that pop.as soon as he's full on his delts and legs are insane ,he just can't keep it going tho,,he's like a video gymrat now .
Oh yeah, he's still a big guy but noticeably smaller than he used to be when you observe his face and delts. Saying that he wants to compete again isn't saying much, since he's cancelled 1-2 preps before. Esp Antoine is the kind of person that needs a good & caring coach to keep him on track.
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I'm rooting for him! (Hope he gets his shit together/ with or without competitive bodybuilding )
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He's much smaller in that video and again he's pulling 'a Levrone': he vanishes in silence, makes a comeback and repeats..
true, except for the "comeback" part. Hate to say it.
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I watched the vid, am happy for him.
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has Universal Dropped him ???
I do not see any Universal product placement at all in the new video
him and mcgrath still their main guys on their site front page
https://universalnutrition.com/ (https://universalnutrition.com/)
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Antoine is a great guy, I trained with him several times. Wishing him the best on his return!
Antoine--Stay Stong....Mind and Body!
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Antoine is a great guy, I trained with him several times. Wishing him the best on his return!
Antoine--Stay Stong....Mind and Body!
Hi Antoine.
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Good guy but the hope of seeing him on stage again is becoming little more than a pipe dream...
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true, except for the "comeback" part. Hate to say it.
To clarify myself, 'comeback' means back in the gym in his case
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To clarify myself, 'comeback' means back in the gym in his case
Ah okay. That's fair.
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Inspired by our snake oil entrepreneur Voodoo Vince?
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - TALES OF THE BARD'S PUMP
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wish I that thong...no homo
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Good guy but the hope of seeing him on stage again is becoming little more than a pipe dream...
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Looking more and more like tbombz. His life...is still a life like any other life...
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so is there oil in his delts or what? or just super overdeveloped with good genes...
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so is there oil in his delts or what? or just super overdeveloped with good genes...
No Oil at all
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Looking more and more like tbombz. His life...is still a life like any other life...
thought that was daz ball
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - REGAN GRIMES - HARDCORE TIBIALIS TRAINING
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anyone have that acrobat video of him in that field? the kicks and flips? that was one of the best examples of athleticism I've ever seen from a bodybuilder.
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anyone have that acrobat video of him in that field? the kicks and flips? that was one of the best examples of athleticism I've ever seen from a bodybuilder.
That shit was impressive.
what bugs me and its not antoine's fault but when I see guys like yourself who looked twice as much a pro and did not get the card.
then again seeing how things work out for most of theses guys in the long wrong maybe it was a good thing.
But you did have a better physique than him and several others
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That shit was impressive.
what bugs me and its not antoine's fault but when I see guys like yourself who looked twice as much a pro and did not get the card.
then again seeing how things work out for most of theses guys in the long wrong maybe it was a good thing.
But you did have a better physique than him and several others
damn, thanx bro!! high praise. timing I guess.
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anyone have that acrobat video of him in that field? the kicks and flips? that was one of the best examples of athleticism I've ever seen from a bodybuilder.
https://youtu.be/cLlwuAJLY_E (https://youtu.be/cLlwuAJLY_E)
Sorry I forget how to make the video play here. Been a while since I posted one
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now he can make the big bucks as a cam whore. :-\
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Whatever happened to pretty boy?
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
god dammit
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Seems the guy falls hard after a break up,
wasnt the first breakdown after he broke up with this girl
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465752.0;attach=525349;image)
now he broke up with his new girl and back at the hardcore drugs ??? Coke? ??? smack? ??? Meth? ??? :-\
sound like he probably lost his apartment on the high rise and living on the streets ???
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
Interesting to get an inside peek, thank you. Antoine seems like a decent guy and I really hope he can get back on track. I am sure he can but lets hope he doesn't have to hit rock bottom first before he can turn it around!
Ps what's his drug of choice, do you know? I am imagining coke if he's also losing so much weight?
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Looking more and more like tbombz. His life...is still a life like any other life...
Yes his life is still like any other life.
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Yes his life is still like any other life.
Still better than Scotties miserable life
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Still better than Scotties miserable life
Scott Alexander?
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Scott Alexander?
Haha, not really, but Ant looks way better than that concentration camp groupie
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It's too bad, but addiction has nothing to do with a lack of will power, trust me I know myself and others had a ton of willpower to keep going down that shitty road.
A person coming into sobriety has to change everything about the way he/she thinks, acts, feels, and often the people, places and things that go along with addiction. Essentially it's stopping to think you can fight this bullshit and win, you won't the drug will win every time. Stop fighting, stfu, listen to the professionals as well as those who have overcome it, by overcome I mean with at least a few years of successful sobriety under their belts. The ones who have tasted a bit of life's successes/failures as a sober person several times and stayed clean and sober doing it.
I wish him well.
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Pretty sad to hear all of this. You only wish things like this to assholes like pink tamali, not good dudes like Ant :-\
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Interesting to get an inside peek, thank you. Antoine seems like a decent guy and I really hope he can get back on track. I am sure he can but lets hope he doesn't have to hit rock bottom first before he can turn it around!
Ps what's his drug of choice, do you know? I am imagining coke if he's also losing so much weight?
Loves G and M
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
I wish him well, but he had no career in bodybuilding anyway, so I hope he finds a better and more productive way to spend his time once his wounds from the break up heal. :)
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Loves G and M
GHB? Marijuana?
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GHB? Marijuana?
ghb, meth... probably has aids and will pull an ekul
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
Not surprising at all. He had all those sponsorships, but he didn't compete. "Living the life" lasted longer than I thought it would. I really hope he has a skill-set and a plan B. Overall he seems like a decent guy. Hope he gets his life back on track.
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
What drugs is he doing?
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What drugs is he doing?
Does it really help his situation if the whole world knows what he's doing? No
A drug issue is a drug issue and he has to overcome it regardless.
Regardless of what he's battling with now, Antoine has an addictive personality, and the tolerance of an elephant.
I know this from having met him at a party (rave) 6 years ago. At the time he didn't have an issue, or
had gone through anything this bad, (just the odd party in the offseason) but let me just tell you he was AT LEAST on 3x as much as I was,
or that I ever did in one night, and he looked like he was well in control of himself on that level of high...
That in itself might have been a sign of a person who looks for the "next level high" or tries new shit.
I will try my best to make sure he gets help, if i can reach him
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Does it really help his situation if the whole world knows what he's doing? No
A drug issue is a drug issue and he has to overcome it regardless.
I agree, any requests for details like this is just to satisfy people's sick need to watch a trainwreck. People just looking for some taboo to crucify him on like heroin or something. Addiction is a bitch for sure, I've been pretty deep in that scene before and the less other people know the better, because they can never comprehend why you do what you do when in that sort of position.
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Not surprising at all. He had all those sponsorships, but he didn't compete. "Living the life" lasted longer than I thought it would. I really hope he has a skill-set and a plan B. Overall he seems like a decent guy. Hope he gets his life back on track.
Irrelevant. How many years has Frank McGrath competed? Yet he's been the face of Animal for over a decade easily...
It's all about marketing, and appeal. Antoine had appeal. All he had to do was continue being in shape, make regular videos and
his usual "kitchen stuff" recipes, tricking videos or goof type videos, and meet with fans. Like I said before, this was a winning recipe and
he didn't even have a pro card at that time. All you have to do is have a following online and you don't need much else.
Look at the current internet celebs in the industry that aren't popular based on their stage merits: Rich Piana, Jason Genova (lol), Melvin Goodrum? Luimarco etc etc.
Be genuine and unique, and you'd be surprised where that can take you.
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it sounds cliche but in all honesty he has to hit bottom
also, he need family....real family and not the fake friends he met in bodybuilding
the only exception to what I said is if his family is utter white trash.....then he'll need whoever REALLY cares for him
Not to make this about me but I have a mother who forgives me and will be there for me no matter how much I fucked up in my life...Antoine needs someone like that
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it sounds cliche but in all honesty he has to hit bottom
also, he need family....real family and not the fake friends he met in bodybuilding
the only exception to what I said is if his family is utter white trash.....then he'll need whoever REALLY cares for him
Not to make this about me but I have a mother who forgives me and will be there for me no matter how much I fucked up in my life...Antoine needs someone like that
Antoine has those people. Problem is, they are few and far between but also he chooses to not surround himself with them.
When he decided to make the move to Toronto it was to better his career, clear his head, and be away from the negative influences he had here.
In Quebec the guy is a star. He had guys who were big time dealers, or close to them, just provide him with endless supplies of whatever, free or near free.
He was like a kid in a candy store for that shit, because he literally had to blink an eye and it was there...
Sad to say he was soon enough in bad company again once he was in Toronto. Rumor was (and I can't confirm it) is that he was hanging around with recent PRO Jerome Bravo (who lives in TO) and the two have been on a tear either before he got clean the first time, or possibly now again. The guy is bad news for anyone, let alone someone trying to get clean. Anyways this isn't about Jerome alone (if he is at all implicated) because i'm sure there are more that a few people in his circle that enable, and fuck around on the daily like he is.
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Antoine has those people. Problem is, they are few and far between but also he chooses to not surround himself with them.
all I can say is that IF (and the operative word is "IF") he wants to get better then those people needs to be around those people
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it sounds cliche but in all honesty he has to hit bottom
also, he need family....real family and not the fake friends he met in bodybuilding
the only exception to what I said is if his family is utter white trash.....then he'll need whoever REALLY cares for him
Not to make this about me but I have a mother who forgives me and will be there for me no matter how much I fucked up in my life...Antoine needs someone like that
Don't give the Gayor ideas.
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Does it really help his situation if the whole world knows what he's doing? No
A drug issue is a drug issue and he has to overcome it regardless.
Regardless of what he's battling with now, Antoine has an addictive personality, and the tolerance of an elephant.
I know this from having met him at a party (rave) 6 years ago. At the time he didn't have an issue, or
had gone through anything this bad, (just the odd party in the offseason) but let me just tell you he was AT LEAST on 3x as much as I was,
or that I ever did in one night, and he looked like he was well in control of himself on that level of high...
That in itself might have been a sign of a person who looks for the "next level high" or tries new shit.
I will try my best to make sure he gets help, if i can reach him
Nice way to seek attention. You won't say what drugs he is using because that is too personal, yet you will come on here and practically tell us his whole life--girlfriend broke up with him, current drug addiction, past drug addiction, different jobs he has had, and his current physical conditioning.
Does it really help the situation to know that he was living comfortably in the past while being sponsored? Nope. Yet, you felt the need to tell us.
Way to try to seek attention to feel important. :-\ :-\
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I agree, any requests for details like this is just to satisfy people's sick need to watch a trainwreck. People just looking for some taboo to crucify him on like heroin or something. Addiction is a bitch for sure, I've been pretty deep in that scene before and the less other people know the better, because they can never comprehend why you do what you do when in that sort of position.
As opposed to you reading his whole life story on some bodybuilding internet, while gaining personal information about him via second hand reports? Yup, makes perfect sense. ::) ::) ::)
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Nice way to seek attention. You won't say what drugs he is using because that is too personal, yet you will come on here and practically tell us his whole life--girlfriend broke up with him, current drug addiction, past drug addiction, different jobs he has had, and his current physical conditioning.
Does it really help the situation to know that he was living comfortably in the past while being sponsored? Nope. Yet, you felt the need to tell us.
Way to try to seek attention to feel important. :-\ :-\
respectfully disagree
1- this guy is among people who know this fella personally whom are trying to help and rather than people speculate, he is just putting it out there, which I might add, Antoine himself did many times including his recent recovery. Call it an intervention of sorts if you will.
2- This is a bodybuilding board first and foremost, and this section is called Gossip and Opinions, not Post Only What Sf1900 approves of.
3- There are people here in recovery or who need it/on the fence. They see what happened here and it gets action going behind the scenes whether it is referrals, connections, suggestions etc. Not all of us are Americans, plenty of us from Canada specifically Toronto, Montreal and the other big cities.
4- This guy is a good member and is concerned. Once in a while you guys need to use your brains and figure out that he is trying to save his friend's life by any means possible.
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Irrelevant. How many years has Frank McGrath competed? Yet he's been the face of Animal for over a decade easily...
It's all about marketing, and appeal. Antoine had appeal. All he had to do was continue being in shape, make regular videos and
his usual "kitchen stuff" recipes, tricking videos or goof type videos, and meet with fans. Like I said before, this was a winning recipe and
he didn't even have a pro card at that time. All you have to do is have a following online and you don't need much else.
Look at the current internet celebs in the industry that aren't popular based on their stage merits: Rich Piana, Jason Genova (lol), Melvin Goodrum? Luimarco etc etc.
Be genuine and unique, and you'd be surprised where that can take you.
How long can that last though? Youth fades quickly. Antoine's personality can only take him so far. You need a decent set of skills to make money in life.
Piano is not genuine, but he is unique. Won't live very much longer though.
Genova is retarded.
Goodrum is delusional and probably mentally disturbed too.
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respectfully disagree
1- this guy is among people who know this fella personally whom are trying to help and rather than people speculate, he is just putting it out there, which I might add, Antoine himself did many times including his recent recovery. Call it an intervention of sorts if you will.
2- This is a bodybuilding board first and foremost, and this section is called Gossip and Opinions, not Post Only What Sf1900 approves of.
3- There are people here in recovery or who need it/on the fence. They see what happened here and it gets action going behind the scenes whether it is referrals, connections, suggestions etc. Not all of us are Americans, plenty of us from Canada specifically Toronto, Montreal and the other big cities.
4- This guy is a good member and is concerned. Once in a while you guys need to use your brains and figure out that he is trying to save his friend's life by any means possible.
How does posting about his drug addiction on getbig, aid in his recovery? Please, make the connection between the two.
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How does posting about his drug addiction on getbig, aid in his recovery? Please, make the connection between the two.
I stated my opinion and am sticking by it, don't give a shit about debating it. If you don't like what is being posted, talk to a mod or better yet don't comment on it or read it, simple
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Bodybuilder has mental issues, its hardly front page news.
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I stated my opinion and am sticking by it, don't give a shit about debating it. If you don't like what is being posted, talk to a mod or better yet don't comment on it or read it, simple
But as you said, its the Gossip and Opinion page, therefore, I can comment on whatever topic I want, whether or not I like or agree with the topic. Hence the word "Opinion" in Gossip and Opinion. ??? ???
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Nice way to seek attention. You won't say what drugs he is using because that is too personal, yet you will come on here and practically tell us his whole life--girlfriend broke up with him, current drug addiction, past drug addiction, different jobs he has had, and his current physical conditioning.
Does it really help the situation to know that he was living comfortably in the past while being sponsored? Nope. Yet, you felt the need to tell us.
Way to try to seek attention to feel important. :-\ :-\
Really no need for attention. I just figured I'd tell you people what the latest is, since there's an official thread about him. Also Also Because I know him and Antoine has been a ghost on social media in last 2months, and people are concerned.
I honestly I do fear for my friends life if he doesn't change his ways. The reason I mention his situation in bodybuilding and how he was living off it well, just serves to show how much he sacrificed and lost. He is down the path of losing it all and if you want to call it attention seeking, so be it. Im not here to start beefs. It's just to put in perspective how much shit can turn around on you even when you have such a great situation.
Btw, people have reached out to me in private and have been helpful in finding solutions for him. So just the fact that it caught their attention and they reached out makes my post well worth the trouble.
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
What drugs is he doing?
Are you checking up on him daily / weekly?
How is his health now?
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So in case anyone has been wondering about Antoine's whereabouts you wouldn't be the only one.
I do have some news, although it's nothing worth getting excited about.
He's back to not answering his texts again, and about a month ago (when he finally answered a 5 day old text)
he had told me he was not doing well because of a breakup and has been partying again.
Hard too. He's down in weight big time and for the first time since I've known him (10 years) I probably weigh more than him...
He stopped training, and partied himself down at least 30-40 pounds.
Around the time you see him in the videos with Regan Grimes, is probably around the time he fell off the horse again.
It's so sad to see what is happening to him.
When they filmed the Universal series of his comeback "play the tape to the end" and I was asked to be in it,
I was happy because it seemed as if he was really turning the corner and making the necessary changes.
Since then he's relapsed at least twice. Kudos to Universal for sticking with him as long as they did...
When we last spoke he told me some of the things that were going on in his day-today, and without me divulging any
info, let's just say his situation is pretty fucked at the moment. The situation is his own doing and it's nothing particularly new,
but it's just tragic when I used to train, eat and hang out with him when he literally was on top of the world. Most people don't understand
the guy was LIVING THE LIFE in the world of bodybuilding.
In 2012 before he turned pro, he told me he didn't need to work anymore. (Was doing a few hours as a trainer at a local gym) He was getting
ready for the Canada's, had a very comfortable life and he literally made a living from Sponsorship (Universal, MD, BBoss Towels, Iron Bull Grips etc)
Then his YouTube revenues, merchandise sales and programs from his website. Let's just say he was 24-25 years old, and living a very comfortable
life with no 9 to 5 bullshit. He would get free gym memberships everywhere, free food from meal-prep companies wanting promotion, and the list goes on...
He was not even a pro yet and he was living life better than some guys who compete at the Olympia... that's something to be said when your name and
image are more known than guys who are considered "top 10" in the game.
To say what he's going through now is a fall from grace would be an understatement, and I truly hope he turns things around for good, or he won't
be alive much longer. The path he is on is usually never a long journey.
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Really no need for attention. I just figured I'd tell you people what the latest is, since there's an official thread about him. Also Also Because I know him and Antoine has been a ghost on social media in last 2months, and people are concerned.
I honestly I do fear for my friends life if he doesn't change his ways. The reason I mention his situation in bodybuilding and how he was living off it well, just serves to show how much he sacrificed and lost. He is down the path of losing it all and if you want to call it attention seeking, so be it. Im not here to start beefs. It's just to put in perspective how much shit can turn around on you even when you have such a great situation.
Btw, people have reached out to me in private and have been helpful in finding solutions for him. So just the fact that it caught their attention and they reached out makes my post well worth the trouble.
I guess most of us appreciate your updates about his well being, and hopefully he gets/accepts the mental support he needs.
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I guess most of us appreciate your updates about his well being, and hopefully he gets/accepts the mental support he needs.
Well, not all of us. OOooooo...Now I'm going to hades. Again. ;) ;D
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Well, not all of us. OOooooo...Now I'm going to hades. Again. ;) ;D
Yet you still come back, how can that behavior be explained?
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Yet you still come back, how can that behavior be explained?
Milagro, mi amigo...Milagro!
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Yet you still come back, how can that behavior be explained?
Guy just posts to moralize. Getbig's sententious windbag.
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Guy just posts to moralize. Getbig's sententious windbag.
Wow. More than just a syllable or two, well done Sir Simian. Where do you keep your moral compass, up your baboon butt?
Thought so, Lancelot Link.
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Wow. More than just a syllable or two, well done Sir Simian. Where do you keep your moral compass, up your baboon butt?
Thought so, Lancelot Link.
Good post. No point. ::)
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Good post. No point. ::)
Given your moral relativism, it is understandable that you would take that position.
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Given your moral relativism, it is understandable that you would take that position.
Still spinning. Make a point/argument, or get off the pot. ::)
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I guess most of us appreciate your updates about his well being, and hopefully he gets/accepts the mental support he needs.
Go away
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Go away
Go away Bert, no one likes you here
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Given your moral relativism, it is understandable that you would take that position.
Most morals are relative. I see no problem with this at all. All laws were developed via dialogue by examining the evidence. There are hardly any absolute moral values. Even murder, in the appropriate context, is justified.
I am sorry, but I do not look to a 2000 year old book for my morals. :-\ :-\
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Still spinning. Make a point/argument, or get off the pot. ::)
(https://fideetliteris.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/moral-relativism2.jpg)
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Most morals are relative. I see no problem with this at all. All laws were developed via dialogue by examining the evidence. There are hardly any absolute moral values. Even murder, in the appropriate context, is justified.
I am sorry, but I do not look to a 2000 year old book for my morals. :-\ :-\
Don't be childish. I already know this about you. Morality is not written in stone, but within the hearts of the people.
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Don't be childish. I already know this about you. Morality is not written in stone, but within the hearts of the people.
Well, let me rephrase:
I a moral relativist to the extent that each value judgments become objective when there is overwhelming evidence that said action is moral or immoral. However, I do not assign a moral judgment automatically without examining the evidence. Thus, I do, to a GREAT extent, do think there are objective moral values; however, these often become objective when there is enough evidence and consensus that says so.
I don't know if that makes me a moral relativist. Where is Kahn M. Sing when you need him? :D :D
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Don't be childish. I already know this about you. Morality is not written in stone, but within the hearts of the people.
Childish?
SF brings the arguments and asks critical questions. You aren't bringing much to the table, other than your dogmatic morals and lame comments.
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Childish?
SF brings the arguments and asks critical questions. You aren't bringing much to the table, other than your dogmatic morals and lame comments.
*SNICKER*
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Most morals are relative. I see no problem with this at all. All laws were developed via dialogue by examining the evidence. There are hardly any absolute moral values. Even murder, in the appropriate context, is justified.
I am sorry, but I do not look to a 2000 year old book for my morals. :-\ :-\
Good post.
Slavery and rape, these are absolutely immoral. Right? Can't think of an exception. Thought murder might be too, but no. There are certainly instances where it isn't, or it all just devolves into semantics. Anything else, though?
Cowardice, I'd say, is also another absolute in that it's always wrong. Just not sure where it fits in the debate.
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Well, let me rephrase:
I a moral relativist to the extent that each value judgments become objective when there is overwhelming evidence that said action is moral or immoral. However, I do not assign a moral judgment automatically without examining the evidence. Thus, I do, to a GREAT extent, do think there are objective moral values; however, these often become objective when there is enough evidence and consensus that says so.
I don't know if that makes me a moral relativist. Where is Kahn M. Sing when you need him? :D :D
Unlike us, Kahn is most likely doing something worthy of his time. ;D
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*SNICKER*
Thank you for proving my point, I expect more than this from an intelligent man like you.
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Don't be childish. I already know this about you. Morality is not written in stone, but within the hearts of the people.
Moral relativism certainly gets idiotic at times, totally agree. But you're not suggesting everything is black or white, are you?
Lying, for instance. Most often wrong, sure. But absolutely wrong, no exceptions? I'm curious.
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Thank you for proving my point, I expect more than this from an intelligent man like you.
As do I from you. To me, that which I replied to deserved nothing more than a *SNICKER*.
I am not here to argue. As for my "dogmatic morals and lame comments", I cannot help you there. We are who we are and neither of us is going to change. If this truth makes you think less of me, so be it.
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Moral relativism certainly gets idiotic at times, totally agree. But you're not suggesting everything is black or white, are you?
Lying, for instance. Most often wrong, sure. But absolutely wrong, no exceptions? I'm curious.
The world is not black and white but neither is it all shades of gray (not the film! ;D).
I agree. Are all of my truths the same as yours? Most likely no, but I would suggest that we have more in common than we do differences and yet the zeitgeist of the world around us is to celebrate the differences rather than revel in and grow more together from the similarities.
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The world is not black and white but neither is it all shades of gray (not the film! ;D).
I agree. Are all of my truths the same as yours? Most likely no, but I would suggest that we have more in common than we do differences and yet the zeitgeist of the world around us is to celebrate the differences rather than revel in and grow more together from the similarities.
Where would we differ, though? And why? On morality, I mean. Worship stuff aside, where might we disagree on civilized behavior?
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Where would we differ, though? And why? On morality, I mean. Worship stuff aside, where might we disagree on civilized behavior?
I dunno. We probably don't. You don't have to have faith to be a civilized person. Plenty of people fake their faith or do as I sometimes do and shame it. Faith doesn't make anyone moral just as a lack of faith in any deity does not make someone immoral.
We are what we do in life.
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I dunno. We probably don't. You don't have to have faith to be a civilized person. Plenty of people fake their faith or do as I sometimes do and shame it. Faith doesn't make anyone moral just as a lack of faith in any deity does not make someone immoral.
We are what we do in life.
Goes without saying, which is why I brushed it aside.
So we're both sorta 'relativist,' then. Just like pretty much everyone else ever.
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Goes without saying, which is why I brushed it aside.
So we're both sorta 'relativist,' then. Just like pretty much everyone else ever.
Yup.
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Yup.
Time for some positivity, my friend!
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Unlike us, Kahn is most likely doing something worthy of his time. ;D
I know a little about him, so I'd say he is definitely doing something more productive. :D :D
The thing that I struggled with is trying to understand if I look at morals from an absolute or relative perspective. For example, I do not think that child molestation is okay in any context--no matter the context, child molestation is wrong. So, does that put me in line with moral absolutism? On the other hand, I am a moral relativist when it comes to MOST other things, e.g., killing another human being in self-defense. I have PMed Kahn for help :)
I am going to provide you with a good example from a book I have been reading about politics and morals ("The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion"). First off, we base most of our moral judgments on intuition, i.e., we have an initial reaction to a moral dilemma, then later on try to find evidence to back up our moral position (this has been demonstrated). Anyway, the author of the book discusses an experiment he conducted. He provided people with different scenarios and asked them to make a moral decision about it. When they made a moral decision, the researcher then challenged them on their decision. One of the moral dilemmas was that a brother and sister, who are both over the age of 18, had a one-night stand. The guy used a condom. It was 100% consensual. No one found out about it. It never happened again. And it didn't ruin their family or their relationship. Thus, there were no negative consequences related to the one night stand. Was this morally wrong? Every participant pretty much had the same response, "Ugh, that is gross and so wrong." But when challenged by the researcher WHY it was wrong, most participants did not have an adequate response--some said, "well, what if she got pregnant?" The researcher said, "The guy used a condom, and she didnt get pregnant." They then said, "Well, maybe it ruined their family or relationship." The researcher said, "nope, it didn't. It never happened again and no one was harmed." The participants kept scrambling for answers and could not really justify why it was morally wrong. They all said, "It just felt (intuition) wrong." If we equate morality with well-being (which Sam Harrison does), and if the brother and sisters well-being was not sacrificed or harmed (physically, emotionally, psychologically or spiritually), then why would it be an immoral act? Is it something I would do if I had a sister? 100% not. However, that doesn't mean it's morally wrong either. I don't know. Anyway, I think it represents a good scenario of how most actions cannot automatically be deemed immoral or moral (absolutism).
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'The righteous mind' ? I thought for a second that was written by James Allen, but I confused it with the part 'The righteous man' from his 'All these things added', which is very well written.
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'The righteous mind' ? I thought for a second that was written by James Allen, but I confused it with the part 'The righteous man' from his 'All these things added', which is very well written.
By Jonathan Haidt
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I know a little about him, so I'd say he is definitely doing something more productive. :D :D
The thing that I struggled with is trying to understand if I look at morals from an absolute or relative perspective. For example, I do not think that child molestation is okay in any context--no matter the context, child molestation is wrong. So, does that put me in line with moral absolutism? On the other hand, I am a moral relativist when it comes to MOST other things, e.g., killing another human being in self-defense. I have PMed Kahn for help :)
I am going to provide you with a good example from a book I have been reading about politics and morals ("The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion"). First off, we base most of our moral judgments on intuition, i.e., we have an initial reaction to a moral dilemma, then later on try to find evidence to back up our moral position (this has been demonstrated). Anyway, the author of the book discusses an experiment he conducted. He provided people with different scenarios and asked them to make a moral decision about it. When they made a moral decision, the researcher then challenged them on their decision. One of the moral dilemmas was that a brother and sister, who are both over the age of 18, had a one-night stand. The guy used a condom. It was 100% consensual. No one found out about it. It never happened again. And it didn't ruin their family or their relationship. Thus, there were no negative consequences related to the one night stand. Was this morally wrong? Every participant pretty much had the same response, "Ugh, that is gross and so wrong." But when challenged by the researcher WHY it was wrong, most participants did not have an adequate response--some said, "well, what if she got pregnant?" The researcher said, "The guy used a condom, and she didnt get pregnant." They then said, "Well, maybe it ruined their family or relationship." The researcher said, "nope, it didn't. It never happened again and no one was harmed." The participants kept scrambling for answers and could not really justify why it was morally wrong. They all said, "It just felt (intuition) wrong." If we equate morality with well-being (which Sam Harrison does), and if the brother and sisters well-being was not sacrificed or harmed (physically, emotionally, psychologically or spiritually), then why would it be an immoral act? Is it something I would do if I had a sister? 100% not. However, that doesn't mean it's morally wrong either. I don't know. Anyway, I think it represents a good scenario of how most actions cannot automatically be deemed immoral or moral (absolutism).
;D Hi, friend (yeah, busy).
Can't stick around for more than a few minutes, but perhaps it would be helpful to first provide an account of what we mean by 'morality'? Is it synonymous with such things as ethics and self-interest? BTW, just took a quick look at the Haidt :-\ (does he define the term?).
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;D Hi, friend (yeah, busy).
Can't stick around for more than a few minutes, but perhaps it would be helpful to first provide an account of what we mean by 'morality'? Is it synonymous with such things as ethics and self-interest? BTW, just took a quick look at the Haidt :-\ (does he define the term?).
Kahn, I am only a little into the book. I'd have to check back. Why the :-\ :-\ ?
I think morality is equated to well-being (this is how Sam Harrison defines it). In other words, morality is connected to the psychological, physical, emotional, and spiritual fulfillment of being healthy, happy and comfortable (I know well-being can be defined in many different ways).
I guess the best example I can give is that it is morally wrong to engage in child sexual abuse, since we know these actions hinder people from being healthy, happy, and comfortable. Thus, it is moral to protect and nurture children.
I don't know if this is the type of example you're looking for. Youre much more articulate when it comes to this stuff!
Kahn, I found this. This quote appears to define the processes of moral thinking/feeling, but not what morality actually is (what is considered moral).
Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist who defines moral as: the sudden appearance in consciousness of a moral judgment,including an affective valence (good–bad, like–dislike), without any awareness of having gone through steps of searching, weighing evidence,or inferring a moral conclusion. Moral intuition is therefore the psychological process that the Scottish philosophers talked about, aprocess akin to aesthetic judgment. One sees or hears about an event and one instantly feels approval or disapproval.[9] Haidt argues that many people do not utilize conscious reasoning to make our judgments.
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Kahn, I am only a little into the book. I'd have to check back. Why the :-\ :-\ ?
I think morality is equated to well-being (this is how Sam Harrison defines it). In other words, morality is connected to the psychological, physical, emotional, and spiritual fulfillment of being healthy, happy and comfortable (I know well-being can be defined in many different ways).
I guess the best example I can give is that it is morally wrong to engage in child sexual abuse, since we know these actions hinder people from being healthy, happy, and comfortable. Thus, it is moral to protect and nurture children.
I don't know if this is the type of example you're looking for. Youre much more articulate when it comes to this stuff!
Kahn, I found this. This quote appears to define the processes of moral thinking/feeling, but not what morality actually is (what is considered moral).
Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist who defines moral as: the sudden appearance in consciousness of a moral judgment,including an affective valence (good–bad, like–dislike), without any awareness of having gone through steps of searching, weighing evidence,or inferring a moral conclusion. Moral intuition is therefore the psychological process that the Scottish philosophers talked about, aprocess akin to aesthetic judgment. One sees or hears about an event and one instantly feels approval or disapproval.[9] Haidt argues that many people do not utilize conscious reasoning to make our judgments.
Hey, SF!
I just took a look at some sample pages, and quickly took issue with how he framed the "Rationalist Delusion" (pp. 34, 103) -- e.g., Plato, (Aristotle), and Kant knew that reason was not enough to be moral, but that it needed to be complimented by the "will." Doing the 'good' involves more than just 'knowing' the good. But, again, I just gave Haidt's book a peek.
Be well.
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Hey, SF!
I just took a look at some sample pages, and quickly took issue with how he framed the "Rationalist Delusion" (pp. 34, 103) -- e.g., Plato, (Aristotle), and Kant knew that reason was not enough to be moral, but that it needed to be complimented by the "will." Doing the 'good' involves more than just 'knowing' the good. But, again, I just gave Haidt's book a peek.
Be well.
Thanks, Kahn!!
But I guess I should take the topic back on course to moral relativism vs moral absolutism.
I am not too sure where Haidt stands on this issue.
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Thanks, Kahn!!
But I guess I should take the topic back on course to moral relativism vs moral absolutism.
I am not too sure where Haidt stands on this issue.
What would Kant say about your fear of beaches and buffet food? :D
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What would Kant say about your fear of beaches and buffet food? :D
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Update :
Antoine Messaged me yesterday. He has been in a facility since may 6th, which would explain why it was impossible to reach him.
He says he's doing great, feeling great, and will be back in about 4 more weeks. He says thanks to those who showed concern and support.
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/3b9bf97f57ecbb369844a720eb7af1d7/tumblr_mljmq47Azm1r04or9o1_500.jpg)
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Update :
Antoine Messaged me yesterday. He has been in a facility since may 6th, which would explain why it was impossible to reach him.
He says he's doing great, feeling great, and will be back in about 4 more weeks. He says thanks to those who showed concern and support.
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/3b9bf97f57ecbb369844a720eb7af1d7/tumblr_mljmq47Azm1r04or9o1_500.jpg)
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/636af72d5ca8f0375140dcfa4a4722f3/tumblr_ms3f81sejw1rmbtnio1_500.jpg)
that top 2 pics here should be placing or getting looks looks great on full 'steam'last pic he looks'normal for him'but still a cool build to be sporting for beach/fun.
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Praying for Antoine. Seems like a legit funny and good guy.
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Looks like he's back in the gym
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https://www.facebook.com/AVbodybuilder/photos/a.155262607862539.39058.154295654625901/1031978846857573/?type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/AVbodybuilder/photos/a.155262607862539.39058.154295654625901/1031978846857573/?type=3)
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whats up with him?
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whats up with him?
Recs I think.
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Recs I think.
Good for him, makes more sense than wasting his life eating chicken and lifting weights.
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Good for him, makes more sense than wasting his life eating chicken and lifting weights.
At least having a sack of dope will get you ass, massive muscles only gets you heart failure :o
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well I hope things work out for him and that from personal experience he would be wise to not get too ahead of himself in the first year and just take things slowly one step at a time because addicts by nature tend to have too many expectations or have too many of them placed on them when they are in the part where they can't meet them.
and if he is already in a relation sounds like he is better off to avoid that the first year because too many get involved in relations the first year and become too dependant on the other half, which leads to relapse when they dont get their own way.
other than that, good luck and keep the faith, he's gonna need it
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well I hope things work out for him and that from personal experience he would be wise to not get too ahead of himself in the first year and just take things slowly one step at a time because addicts by nature tend to have too many expectations or have too many of them placed on them when they are in the part where they can't meet them.
and if he is already in a relation sounds like he is better off to avoid that the first year because too many get involved in relations the first year and become too dependant on the other half, which leads to relapse when they dont get their own way.
other than that, good luck and keep the faith, he's gonna need it
A good woman could make him more stable by keeping an eye on him, but it seems impossible to him to make it work on the long run.
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A good woman could make him more stable by keeping an eye on him, but it seems impossible to him to make it work on the long run.
I get what you are saying but most advice given to addicts whether through rehab, a doctor, 12 steps, group therapy or all essentially suggest not to get into any new relationships the first year or make any drastic changes to current ones for the main reason you ended with.
its kinda like we have to learn to be comfortable in our own sober skin first before we can comfortably offer ourselves to another as part of a good relation, of which it does not work well if only one person is carrying the whole deal and having to walk on eggshells because they feel like they might set off the person to relapse by stepping on their toes or kicking their ass when needed
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I get what you are saying but most advice given to addicts whether through rehab, a doctor, 12 steps, group therapy or all essentially suggest not to get into any new relationships the first year or make any drastic changes to current ones for the main reason you ended with.
its kinda like we have to learn to be comfortable in our own sober skin first before we can comfortably offer ourselves to another as part of a good relation, of which it does not work well if only one person is carrying the whole deal and having to walk on eggshells because they feel like they might set off the person to relapse by stepping on their toes or kicking their ass when needed
Agreed.
1 day at a time, and focusing on one's self right out of the gate is priority. Relationship woes could compromise many things.
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I get what you are saying but most advice given to addicts whether through rehab, a doctor, 12 steps, group therapy or all essentially suggest not to get into any new relationships the first year or make any drastic changes to current ones for the main reason you ended with.
its kinda like we have to learn to be comfortable in our own sober skin first before we can comfortably offer ourselves to another as part of a good relation, of which it does not work well if only one person is carrying the whole deal and having to walk on eggshells because they feel like they might set off the person to relapse by stepping on their toes or kicking their ass when needed
Never saw it that way before, since I'm only addicted to Getbig, but this explanation seems to make sense from a therapeutic view.
It sucks to see a young, smart & funny guy struggle like this :-\
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Never saw it that way before, since I'm only addicted to Getbig, but this explanation seems to make sense from a therapeutic view.
It sucks to see a young, smart & funny guy struggle like this :-\
when it comes to addiction that type often suffers the most, trust me I was once all three of those and inside was the worst
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I just subscribed to his YouTube channel. He's got some pretty cool vids.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - DJ NOAH - ARMS RELOAAADEDDD!
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he won his pro card living in a basement with a tranny schmoe right? maybe he needs to go back there.
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Update :
Antoine Massaged me yesterday. He has been in a facility since may 6th, which would explain why it was impossible to reach him.
He says he's doing great, feeling great, and will be back in about 4 more weeks. He says thanks to those who showed concern and support.
Fixed.
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Fixed.
You're a funny guy Fagco
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I think it's great he is training hard but not so sure he should be putting any drugs in his body.
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How many tiers are there?
five
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - REGAN GRIMES - DORIAN HAMILTON - ULTIMATE ARM WORKOUT
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You're a funny guy Fagco
You're still around?
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Antoine had been making ends meet fighting but it looks like we won't be seeing much of him anymore :-X
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after 5:00
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Seems like a great guy. Few others would be so transparent about their struggles. I hope he overcomes his temptations.
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Few others would be so transparent about their struggles.
Still hasn't disclosed what he has been addicted to.
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Still hasn't disclosed what he has been addicted to.
He speaks about too much partying, so that might refer to alcohol/rec drugs issues.
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Still hasn't disclosed what he has been addicted to.
Why is that so fucking important to you/you guys? What does it matter? He makes it clear he was an addict and had a problem with addiction, that should be the main focus and end of that discussion. If you wanna read about who is addicted to what go read a fucking Hollywood tabloid you fucking waste.
As a former addict seeing this type of insensitive comment pisses me off. Not to mention you worded it like a little brat and act as if you're entitled to know. Fuck you dude, seriously. Getbig or not, have some respect.
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Still hasn't disclosed what he has been addicted to.
Yeah, wonder what he is addicted to specifically.
Don't think even his buddy moty knows.
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Why is that so fucking important to you/you guys? What does it matter? He makes it clear he was an addict and had a problem with addiction, that should be the main focus and end of that discussion. If you wanna read about who is addicted to what go read a fucking Hollywood tabloid you fucking waste.
As a former addict seeing this type of insensitive comment pisses me off. Not to mention you worded it like a little brat and act as if you're entitled to know. Fuck you dude, seriously. Getbig or not, have some respect.
You feel better now?
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Hey Moty,
What's he addicted to?
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Why is that so fucking important to you/you guys? What does it matter? He makes it clear he was an addict and had a problem with addiction, that should be the main focus and end of that discussion. If you wanna read about who is addicted to what go read a fucking Hollywood tabloid you fucking waste.
As a former addict seeing this type of insensitive comment pisses me off. Not to mention you worded it like a little brat and act as if you're entitled to know. Fuck you dude, seriously. Getbig or not, have some respect.
It really isnt that important, TBH its just that there is a thread here about him that people are commenting, if this thread disappeared tomorrow, or even if Antoine disappeared tomorrow, no one here would really give a fuck enough for it to impact on their lives.
Hope that helps.
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Why is that so fucking important to you/you guys? What does it matter? He makes it clear he was an addict and had a problem with addiction, that should be the main focus and end of that discussion. If you wanna read about who is addicted to what go read a fucking Hollywood tabloid you fucking waste.
As a former addict seeing this type of insensitive comment pisses me off. Not to mention you worded it like a little brat and act as if you're entitled to know. Fuck you dude, seriously. Getbig or not, have some respect.
As a former addict you should know exactly why people are asking. Your entire post comes off like a childish meltdown. And singling me out is about as bad a move you can make. Your entire stance reeks of thinly veiled deflection.
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I can understand MOTY's point and I can understand Nether Animals. On one hand it doen't matter what specific chemical he was/is struggling with, however, also on the other hand Antoine himself is the one putting himself out there.
I wish him all the best, especially as someone in sobriety myself, although being a public persona of sorts I would suggest he stop talking about comebacks etc, and just do what he is supposed to do. Sorry but guys with a couple of months under their belts after multiple relapses don't inspire me. What inspires me is people in sobriety who get years of consistency who change their lives completely, and whom pass it on and have also stayed sober through the best of times, and through brutal darkness, as well as when not getting their own way. He needs to also start working on becoming multi-dimensional as a person. I could totally relate to the pause he gave when he tried to answer the question about other interests. I have started to try all kinds of different things that I have not don, wanted to try, or havent done in years, including a recent gig where a few of us made a band in less than a week and played a 4 hour gig(I sing). It was a blast. Anyways I wish him the best, but I think he should avoid answering any questions about recovery and comebacks and stick to BB'ing related questions until he gets some real time under his belt. People take this honesty thing too far today especially when it comes to strangers
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - HEAVY D - INTERNATIONAL CHEST DAY
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I can understand MOTY's point and I can understand Nether Animals. On one hand it doen't matter what specific chemical he was/is struggling with, however, also on the other hand Antoine himself is the one putting himself out there.
I wish him all the best, especially as someone in sobriety myself, although being a public persona of sorts I would suggest he stop talking about comebacks etc, and just do what he is supposed to do. Sorry but guys with a couple of months under their belts after multiple relapses don't inspire me. What inspires me is people in sobriety who get years of consistency who change their lives completely, and whom pass it on and have also stayed sober through the best of times, and through brutal darkness, as well as when not getting their own way. He needs to also start working on becoming multi-dimensional as a person. I could totally relate to the pause he gave when he tried to answer the question about other interests. I have started to try all kinds of different things that I have not don, wanted to try, or havent done in years, including a recent gig where a few of us made a band in less than a week and played a 4 hour gig(I sing). It was a blast. Anyways I wish him the best, but I think he should avoid answering any questions about recovery and comebacks and stick to BB'ing related questions until he gets some real time under his belt. People take this honesty thing too far today especially when it comes to strangers
This is more than semantics. The substance he is struggling with is important to me, because it would give me a reference point concerning his chances at putting this all behind him.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - CODY MONTGOMERY - REGAN GRIMES - DORIAN HAMILTON - 4 WAY ARMS FULL OUT PARTY
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - CODY MONTGOMERY - REGAN GRIMES - DORIAN HAMILTON - 4 WAY ARMS FULL OUT PARTY
I want to punch that fa ggot Cody right in his punchable face!
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ANTOINE"S CHRONICLES OF L.A. CHAPTER 1 : THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RICE
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ANTOINE"S CHRONICLES OF L.A. CHAPTER 1 : THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RICE
bearing in mind Antoine is on his arse he always seems to find money for huge take away meals, or is it the other people hes with always footing the bill?
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His emotional ups and downs reminds me of Paul DeMayo.
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ANTOINE"S CHRONICLES OF L.A. CHAPTER 1 : THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RICE
Is Antoine feeling good / better now?
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His emotional ups and downs reminds me of Paul DeMayo.
He's somehow pulling a Shizzo when he hangs out with 'friends'
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Must be a nighmare to remove the seminal fluids from that beard.
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he was born on July 28, 1987
so 25
damn I was already out of HS 2yrs lol...he deserves that pro card tho, I'll give him that much. He seems pretty cool in all his vids.
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Is Antoine feeling good / better now?
Much better. I think he's posted more videos in the last month than he did in the last 2 years. He's getting used to that routine, being in the public eye, filming his shenanigans and what not. This is what made him who he was and got him backed by sponsors in the first place.
Very happy to say he's on the right track
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Much better. I think he's unfortunately posted more videos in the last month than he did in the last 2 years. He's getting used to that routine, being in the public eye, filming his shenanigans and what not. This is what made him who he was and got him backed by sponsors in the first place.
Very happy to say he's on the right track
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Has he made any more of him eating John Meadows food?
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Has he made any more of him eating John Meadows food?
Come on babe, don't be like that.
The guy has some self distance and can make fun of himself. Most other pros comes off as constipated when they are put in front of a camera. Antoine and his shenanigans is what makes him fun to watch.
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I can understand MOTY's point and I can understand Nether Animals. On one hand it doen't matter what specific chemical he was/is struggling with, however, also on the other hand Antoine himself is the one putting himself out there.
I wish him all the best, especially as someone in sobriety myself, although being a public persona of sorts I would suggest he stop talking about comebacks etc, and just do what he is supposed to do. Sorry but guys with a couple of months under their belts after multiple relapses don't inspire me. What inspires me is people in sobriety who get years of consistency who change their lives completely, and whom pass it on and have also stayed sober through the best of times, and through brutal darkness(2), as well as when not getting their own way. He needs to also start working on becoming multi-dimensional as a person. I could totally relate to the pause he gave when he tried to answer the question about other interests. I have started to try all kinds of different things that I have not don, wanted to try, or havent done in years, including a recent gig where a few of us made a band in less than a week and played a 4 hour gig(I sing(3)). It was a blast. Anyways I wish him the best, but I think he should avoid answering any questions about recovery and comebacks and stick to BB'ing related questions until he gets some real time under his belt. People take this honesty thing too far today especially when it comes to strangers
How have I not seen this thread before??
1) so now I get why people are following moty around with that question ;D
2) totally agree
3) so that's you in the video below then Mr Muntz! ;)
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/6-17-2015/NTn_aK.gif)
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and these are grown men...
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and these are grown men, having a good time
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How have I not seen this thread before??
1) so now I get why people are following moty around with that question ;D
2) totally agree
3) so that's you in the video below then Mr Muntz! ;)
(http://i.makeagif.com/media/6-17-2015/NTn_aK.gif)
If you took away the head of hair and the stache, most definately
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not my idea of a good time.....
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not my idea of a good time.....
To each their own of course, but almost anything is better than making a standard training vid
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To each their own of course, but almost anything is better than making a standard training vid
to simply do nothing would be even better.
Who wants to watch people lifting weights to thrash metal music?
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to simply do nothing would be even better.
Who wants to watch people lifting weights to thrash metal music?
His fans probably.
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to simply do nothing would be even better.
Who wants to watch people lifting weights to thrash metal music?
Here's the exact answer
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Here's the exact answer
theres no accounting for taste..
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theres no accounting for taste..
It's just light entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. Dude is just joking around and isn't shooting for the 'most creative bodybuilder' award.
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It's just light entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. Dude is just joking around and isn't shooting for the 'most creative bodybuilder' award.
he should take a leaf out of Kais book, now there are some creative videos.
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on a side note,
took all about a year of frank mcgrath moving from canada to los angeles to turn into a LA douche bag
new INK ::)
And i like the guy , to much hanging around with rich piana ??? ???
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on a side note,
took all about a year of frank mcgrath moving from canada to los angeles to turn into a LA douche bag
new INK ::)
And i like the guy , to much hanging around with rich piana ??? ???
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/14262758_1652283101750502_130744902_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMzNjczMzI5NzI5MjUxNDA0Ng%3D%3D.2)
That wasn't an improvement, eh? Bodybuilding is all aboot building your body. Permanently marking your skin with ink is not a constructive way of improving your looks, never was, never will! How does he get his daily fix of maple syrup in LA?
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That wasn't an improvement, eh? Bodybuilding is all aboot building your body. Permanently marking your skin with ink is not a constructive way of improving your looks, never was, never will! How does he get his daily fix of maple syrup in LA?
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e42/sherdogwebmaster/nick%20young%20meme_zpsyvcfxrvu.png)
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on a side note,
took all about a year of frank mcgrath moving from canada to los angeles to turn into a LA douche bag
new INK ::) Oh Brother ::) ::)
And i like the guy , to much hanging around with rich piana ??? ???
Fixed
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he should take a leaf out of Kais book, now there are some creative videos.
Oww now you are looking at those "creative" Kai video's eyyyhh? ;D
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on a side note,
took all about a year of frank mcgrath moving from canada to los angeles to turn into a LA douche bag
new INK ::)
And i like the guy , to much hanging around with rich piana ??? ???
Agreed, and those shirts he has been wearing/promoting are cringeworthy.
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/11008210_993279014047298_269680967_n.jpg)
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Agreed, and those shirts he has been wearing/promoting are cringeworthy.
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/11008210_993279014047298_269680967_n.jpg)
Great build, looks like a beast. But...... but......the Shirt is a tossing cringer indeed ( just made that word up), but also what is up these days with the red or white extension cords plugged in to the ears when taking a selfie? What message are they trying to send with this? .
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Agreed, and those shirts he has been wearing/promoting are cringeworthy.
(http://beastmotivation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/11008210_993279014047298_269680967_n.jpg)
I actually think that is a cool shirt. Fuck me, I guess.
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I actually think that is a cool shirt. Fuck me, I guess.
It's actually a nice shirt for a first date
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It's actually a nice shirt for a first date
That shirt really tied the outfit together, man. ;D
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Antoine Vaillant TIME TO FCK SHIT UP : Side and Rear delts
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Antoine Vaillant TIME TO FCK SHIT UP : Side and Rear delts
He looks small and soft as hell. Off the gear, I guess?
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Lower dosages maybe
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What a chum bucket of parts.
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What a chum bucket of parts.
I assume you had a very positive sabattical period :D
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how the heck did he end up getting that I assume private garage gym? or does it belong to someone else?
Either way I would love to have a home gym like that
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how the heck did he end up getting that I assume private garage gym? or does it belong to someone else?
Either way I would love to have a home gym like that
A wealthy schmoe with a large moustage and a cute grin?
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I assume you had a very positive sabattical period :D
Self imposed and much needed, thanks. ;D
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any news on this gentleman...
:'( :'( :'(
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any news on this gentleman...
:'( :'( :'(
Was it a (peaceful) fall from grace (of peace) ?
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any news on this gentleman...
:'( :'( :'(
are you implying that something happened?
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are you implying that something happened?
no, just asked if colosseum has any info, i chatted with antoine some years ago on another forum - really cool guy.
so i just hope he is doing fine. over at md they say he is back into rehab. not sure, and yes i know its not my business but he was always very open with his privat life so...
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Its been confirmed he relapsed. Supposedly crystal meth. He's back in rehab. Called off the Canadian Tour he was going to do.
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Come on Antoine... it's stims not smack, it ain't that hard to kick it.
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Its been confirmed he relapsed. Supposedly crystal meth. He's back in rehab. Called off the Canadian Tour he was going to do.
Confirmed by whom? Or are you just being a troll...
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My sources. I'm not being a troll. Find your own sources and ask if you don't believe me.
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My sources. I'm not being a troll. Find your own sources and ask if you don't believe me.
Did you say the same to your teachers and professors when turning in papers?
Actually I wouldn't imagine that someone who would give such a retarded response actually pursued higher education.
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any news on this gentleman...
:'( :'( :'(
Hey guys
So Antoine was doing his tour as scheduled, and we last spoke in late september / early october.
I helped Antoine and the guys kick off their tour by creating their poster and such, also getting Antoine some of his old artwork as I believed he was slowly getting merchandise (t-shirts) ready for his tour dates. We briefly talked about him giving me a call when the tour came by Montreal (Quebec).
On october 20-21 I saw pictures on social media that he was at Atomik Nutrition, and close to where I live but sadly he never contacted me. I don't hold it against him I just wonder if he was already going through a rough patch then? The fact that he didn't give me a heads up 2-3 days before that tour date, or even the day of was probably an indication of something going wrong. Last I heard he was supposed to go back to California and hang out with friends down there (Callum Von Moger, Frank Mc Grath, etc) so I figured his no-show on social media for a few days following the Qc tour date was related to travel?
I can't confirm or deny what you guys have been saying on this thread regarding his absence, but having seen Antoine "go missing" a few times now, and recognizing the pattern, I can say it's almost certain this is what happened. The tour is sort of continuing with the rest of the guys (as I see on FB). The complete halt of posting on Antoines social media outlets... I can say without even having to dial his # and reach a most likely full voicemail inbox, that Antoine is probably seeking treatment again, as i've seen this pattern for the 3rd time now.
I just don't want anyone here to suspect the guys he was around (Regan, Dorian, Noah)... These guys are all straight shooters and do not have a shred of fucking around in their system. To the contrary I was actually happy they would be around Antoine so much with the tour because they'd help keep him and his potential impulses in check. I guess something got the best of Antoine and he went off course. My suspicion is the Quebec visit for the tour (or something shortly before that) triggered some old behavior.
I know coming to QC bothers Antoine because of the people he knows (mostly negative influences) and he tries to avoid running into them or coming here all together. People here are a little too friendly with Antoine and are ready to hand out illicit substances at the drop of a dime, and party and do stupidities. Most people who have the access to the endless drugs are people with money, who likely sell it, and they don't have to really go to work from 9-5 so partying for days on end ain't out of the norm. Not to mention the countless after-hour clubs in MTL and the fact that AV is known all too well in those circles. I can't confirm that Antoine ran into his rough patch here in Qc, but it certainly did not help if you ask me. I haven't seen Antoine in person since the filming of the Universal comeback series which is coming up on 2 years now, but i'm really not mad that he didn't call me when coming to town. He has bigger issues to deal with now unfortunately.
Being clean and sober is rarely a 1 shot deal, and I wish him all the best.
I hope you all do too.
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Thanks for clarifying. Shame...
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man I hope dude isn't relapsing seems like he was doing real well.
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Its been confirmed he relapsed. Supposedly crystal meth. He's back in rehab. Called off the Canadian Tour he was going to do.
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Loved Juji
Antoine V should have stuck around him. They'd go places together with their NSIV antics
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One slip does he really need to go straight back to rehab? What about dust yourself down and straight back on the wagon instead?
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One slip does he really need to go straight back to rehab? What about dust yourself down and straight back on the wagon instead?
He slipped is speculation at this point, but most likely he did based on his absence from social media.
And I agree with you, now I've never been to rehab, but I use to party, and id dust myself off all the time.. Now here I am a few years gone I haven't touched anything but alcohol. Maybe it's more serious for him.
Crystal meth? seriously? I don't see a guy like him smoking meth.....
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many thanks for taking the time to answer colosseum, sounds not so good - hope he makes it one day :-\
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So is the idiot still alive? Think Mike Mentzer without the brain power or physique and then think what happened to Mike. Does 'Twan wanna be like Mike?
He'll wind up selling his balloon knot to schmoes and then camp out at some derelict beach community performing auto-fellatio for his protein source and a last hope for survival.
What a maroon.
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So is the idiot still alive? Think Mike Mentzer without the brain power or physique and then think what happened to Mike. Does 'Twan wanna be like Mike?
He'll wind up selling his balloon knot to schmoes and then camp out at some derelict beach community performing auto-fellatio for his protein source and a last hope for survival.
What a maroon.
So he's an idiot why exactly?
Says a lot about a person to kick a someone while they're down.
Addiction is fucked up.
This isn't Derek Anthony who I can at least understand had his history with bashing people on Getbig, so you'd roast him till the end...
But Antoine hasn't messed with anyone ever, I think everyone here can agree at one point Antoine impressed the hell out of just about everyone in the industry.
If not for his physique, then his funny antics and acrobatics.
Have some respect Scotty
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So he's an idiot why exactly?
Says a lot about a person to kick a person while he's down.
Addiction is fucked up.
This isn't Derek Anthony who I can at least understand had his history with bashing people on Getbig.
I think everyone here can agree at one point Antoine impressed the hell out of just about everyone in the industry.
If not for his physique, then his funny antics and acrobatics.
Have some respect Scotty
x2, fuck you scotty you piece of shit.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - REGAN GRIMES - DORIAN HAMILTON - ULTIMATE ARM WORKOUT
How the fawk is that Regan kid a pro????all drugs...once he comes off he has zero foundation....doesn't look any better than an average gym rat.....what a joke!!
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How the fawk is that Regan kid a pro????all drugs...once he comes off he has zero foundation....doesn't look any better than an average gym rat.....what a joke!!
Dude he's wearing a big ass shirt and hes double digit bodyfat.
He has the kind of physique that pops when he's lower bodyfat. Show me an average gym physique that looks like him. Surely you don't even come close.
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5:15
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Dude he's wearing a big ass shirt and hes double digit bodyfat.
He has the kind of physique that pops when he's lower bodyfat. Show me an average gym physique that looks like him. Surely you don't even come close.
earlier in year he was competing he looked great I was surprised how he changed into shape,great delts/overall pretty good.
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earlier in year he was competing he looked great I was surprised how he changed into shape,great delts/overall pretty good.
Low bodyfat and intense training + gear will do that to your body. He's in cruise mode right now. No need to burn out. Still jacked as fuck, not sure what buddy is talking about above.
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Dude he's wearing a big ass shirt and hes double digit bodyfat.
He has the kind of physique that pops when he's lower bodyfat. Show me an average gym physique that looks like him. Surely you don't even come close.
really?? his arms look about 17" at best....I have seen several recent pics of him and he looks more like Dan Hill than any top level IFBB pro....
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Low bodyfat and intense training + gear will do that to your body. He's in cruise mode right now. No need to burn out. Still jacked as fuck, not sure what buddy is talking about above.
Hey Regan,
things?
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How the fawk is that Regan kid a pro????all drugs...once he comes off he has zero foundation....doesn't look any better than an average gym rat.....what a joke!!
Yes, because the average gym rat looks like this?
The kid is pro @ 23 years old and it bothers you for some reason... shut your pie hole
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/regan-grimes2-1000x600.jpg)
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Yes, because the average gym rat looks like this?
The kid is pro @ 23 years old and it bothers you for some reason... shut your pie hole
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/regan-grimes2-1000x600.jpg)
BETTER THAN BOSTIN AND ON A LOT LESS I BET TOO...GUY HAS GOOD BUILD.
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really?? his arms look about 17" at best....I have seen several recent pics of him and he looks more like Dan Hill than any top level IFBB pro....
pics or bullshit. lets see the 2nd coming of down hill
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Yes, because the average gym rat looks like this?
The kid is pro @ 23 years old and it bothers you for some reason... shut your pie hole
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/regan-grimes2-1000x600.jpg)
lmao....Hi Regan, how does it feel to know you will never place in an IFBB pro show????
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lmao....Hi Regan, how does it feel to know you will never place in an IFBB pro show????
I'm sure Regan has better things to do them post undercover here on getbig.com
He's a pro, can you say the same?
End of story.
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Yes, because the average gym rat looks like this?
The kid is pro @ 23 years old and it bothers you for some reason... shut your pie hole
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/regan-grimes2-1000x600.jpg)
Great build on this kid. Pro-caliber!
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lmao....Hi Regan, how does it feel to know you will never place in an IFBB pro show????
Hi Ragan? Bro you're seriously retarded to think I'm Regan using a gimmick.
How does it feel to know that your grade 3 comebacks won't deter your future suicide from happening? Alone79
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many thanks for taking the time to answer colosseum, sounds not so good - hope he makes it one day :-\
No problem. I'd rather people know what's happening before stupid rumors start to go around.
We all hope so too. I just feel that he should look at his situation and see if it isn't the bodybuilding lifestyle that makes it harder for him to stay on track. When you're on cycle you're a different person. Your test levels thru the roof and you tend to think you're invincible. Must not be the ideal situation for an addiction so if in fact that is the case I hope he is able to say that putting the pressure on himself isn't worth destroying his life for. (Speculating that it's a factor but could very well be)
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So he's an idiot why exactly?
Says a lot about a person to kick a someone while they're down.
Addiction is fucked up.
This isn't Derek Anthony who I can at least understand had his history with bashing people on Getbig, so you'd roast him till the end...
But Antoine hasn't messed with anyone ever, I think everyone here can agree at one point Antoine impressed the hell out of just about everyone in the industry.
If not for his physique, then his funny antics and acrobatics.
Have some respect Scotty
Before he earns anyone's respect he first needs to have self respect. He's a drug addicted, lazy bum of bodybuilder with zero to offer. I was harder on my youngest brother who ultimately took his own life. Druggers suck. And that includes steroid addicted people.
He is worthless to himself.
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x2, fuck you scotty you piece of shit.
As if...
Read my reply to Colossus and think over the words and their meaning. If you still cannot understand then there is nothing I can do for you. And there is nothing anyone can do for the drug addict known as Antoine Vaillant. Anyone can change but what is needed is change for the better. That's up to him. I don't see it happening but hopefully I am wrong.
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Hi Ragan? Bro you're seriously retarded to think I'm Regan using a gimmick.
How does it feel to know that your grade 3 comebacks won't deter your future suicide from happening? Alone79
you must be his favorite shmoe supporter then....lol @ a grown man running to the defense of a 3rd tier IFBB pro on an internet forum....how pathetic your life must be hahahahaha
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As if...
Read my reply to Colossus and think over the words and their meaning. If you still cannot understand then there is nothing I can do for you. And there is nothing anyone can do for the drug addict known as Antoine Vaillant. Anyone can change but what is needed is change for the better. That's up to him. I don't see it happening but hopefully I am wrong.
Don't be so obsessed about what others do. You judge other people in 99% of your postings, as if you're Mr Perfect yourself ::) Your life must be a hell when you leave your home and see other people.
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you must be his favorite shmoe supporter then....lol @ a grown man running to the defense of a 3rd tier IFBB pro on an internet forum....how pathetic your life must be hahahahaha
Yeah right as pathetic as you coming on here to shit on people who are above and beyond anything you've ever achieved in life. Be a good boy and get out of the basement your mom needs help vacuuming the house
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Don't be so obsessed about what others do. You judge other people in 99% of your postings, as if you're Mr Perfect yourself ::) Your life must be a hell when you leave your home and see other people.
Now you're white knighting druggies, eh? People's actions cause them to be judged by others. Don't like it, too bad. The subject of the thread is a drugged up retard. You are either ridiculously ignorant or simply ignore reality and seek out your safe space when the truth is spoken. The real world is far more harsh than this place and I live there regardless of whether or not I am "online".
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Now you're white knighting druggies, eh? People's actions cause them to be judged by others. Don't like it, too bad. The subject of the thread is a drugged up retard. You are either ridiculously ignorant or simply ignore reality and seek out your safe space when the truth is spoken. The real world is far more harsh than this place and I live there regardless of whether or not I am "online".
Yet YOU keep praising Arnold in other postings. It's not that I don't like it what you're writing, but you sound like a big hypocrite, since I'm pretty sure that YOUR OWN LIFE isn't perfect either. The subject? LOL, no it's YOU who's so obsessed about someones actions by finger-pointing all the time. Ignorant? No, his current life isn't going in the right direction, but again, I'm pretty sure that your life isn't free from obstacles either. In case I'm wrong, then why not post some pictures of your terrific life? Oh, and how many friends do you have?
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Now you're white knighting druggies, eh? People's actions cause them to be judged by others. Don't like it, too bad. The subject of the thread is a drugged up retard. You are either ridiculously ignorant or simply ignore reality and seek out your safe space when the truth is spoken. The real world is far more harsh than this place and I live there regardless of whether or not I am "online".
Scott normally agree with you but you are being pretty harsh here. Maybe because of your brother and how disappointed he made you but I have more sympathy for those struggling with addictions. I mean, it's not like he isn't trying he appears to have gone straight back into rehab.
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This guy is going to pull a Paul De Mayo on his life.
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Yet YOU keep praising Arnold in other postings. It's not that I don't like it what you're writing, but you sound like a big hypocrite, since I'm pretty sure that YOUR OWN LIFE isn't perfect either. The subject? LOL, no it's YOU who's so obsessed about someones actions by finger-pointing all the time. Ignorant? No, his current life isn't going in the right direction, but again, I'm pretty sure that your life isn't free from obstacles either. In case I'm wrong, then why not post some pictures of your terrific life? Oh, and how many friends do you have?
I've condemned Arnold's drug use and his pseudo-conservatism and his screwing his maid while screwing his wife and producing children from both, although the bastard son is perhaps the only hope for mankind. Fuck Arnold, he's a tnuc and can go intercourse himself for all I care.
My life isn't free problems but I am not a lazy, ignorant ass fucktard drug addicted bodybuilder. Don't care for honest commentary? Subscribe to Schmoe-Speak. Talk to Hipo & Herne, I am sure they can set you up with a subscription. There is nothing I see that makes Antoine worthy of help or the giving of fucks.
Later.
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Scott normally agree with you but you are being pretty harsh here. Maybe because of your brother and how disappointed he made you but I have more sympathy for those struggling with addictions. I mean, it's not like he isn't trying he appears to have gone straight back into rehab.
Like I said, its up to him to turn himself around. I've been around addicts and again, they don't deserve pity or respect because they don't respect themselves or anyone that actually cares about them. Drugs don't just get into your system all by themselves. You have to take them. My youngest brother started with marijuana and wound up with meth and worse. It made him look like one of those "faces of meth" poster people. I turned him in. I had him sent to jail. Why? He became nuts and threatened our mother. I didn't put the cuffs on him but I know those that did and again, I turned him in.
When he blew his brains out it hurt but not because I turned him in, but because I love him. Still do and I hope to see him again at the end of all things. It hurt our mother more...
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Sorry to hear about his struggles, the guy is likable, I enjoy his videos for Universal, he's got a lot of charisma, I honestly think he would fare very well in the classic physique division, wish him the best.
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STFU SCOTTY BITCH!!!
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Any updates on Antoine???
I hope he's back on track.
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Any updates on Antoine???
I hope he's back on track.
likely the same one as Greg Plitt
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Funny, but offside!
Be nice, Antoine has a good heart!
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Funny, but offside!
Be nice, Antoine has a good heart!
I couldnt resist. :(
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a week ago
(http://www2.pic-upload.de/thumb/32156155/IMG_4327.jpg) (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32156155/IMG_4327.jpg.html)
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a week ago
(http://www.team-andro.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=523653)
balzac learn how to post a fucking pic!
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - DORIAN HAMILTON - INTENSITY STEVE
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Seems like he completly lost his drive to do anything, went from rising competitor/youtube star to regular gym rat. Wasted potential.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - MIKE JOHNSON - SHOULDER WORKOIUT HIGHLIGHTS
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Did universal can him yet?
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Did universal can him yet?
If I recall correctly last year during one of his absences his contract lapsed. I don't doubt that he could get it renewed if he gets himself together and asked.
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Did universal can him yet?
Every employer/sponsor wants to work with stable people they can rely on, which certainly isn't the case with Antoine.
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im pulling for the guy...
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im pulling out from the guy...
fixed.
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fixed.
lol...still nutz the fix...
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Trained with Antoine today, and i'm very happy to say that he's the best he's looked and felt in a while.
First time seeing him since the Universal series when they filmed him moving to Toronto and they interviewed me and some other ppl. (2 years ago)
It was great seeing my friend back on track and doing well.
Also, this interview was just released yesterday. It answers pretty much any and ALL questions people have been asking in this thread. All the stuff people have been wondering about him... When, Why, How etc...
He's honest about his shortcomings, makes no excuses, and is as humble and honest as can be.
Trust me when I say he is now starting from GROUND ZERO, and I have every ounce of respect for the guy, as I always did.
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Good interview, gotta have some respect for the guy..he has to start literally from scratch, he lost everything and didn't go the gay4pay route, rebuilding his life a day at a time, working as a personal trainer and he still seems to be very positive and optimistic. Wish the best for him. Colossus, did you conduct the interview?
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No and I have no idea who the guy was who did it. Seems like a new show or whatever didn't look into it much.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - GUN SLINGING WITH STEVEN "THE MAN" DI GIOVANNI
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No and I have no idea who the guy was who did it. Seems like a new show or whatever didn't look into it much.
That's Lorenzo Marincic (idk if I'm spelling that right), he has a podcast with Matt Samansky on PBB called Muscle Prodigy. He does not decent job at interviews, but can be a bit awkward sometimes. I liked this one with Antoine. He really opened up about why he's been MIA.
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Good interview, gotta have some respect for the guy..he has to start literally from scratch, he lost everything and didn't go the gay4pay route, rebuilding his life a day at a time, working as a personal trainer and he still seems to be very positive and optimistic. Wish the best for him. Colossus, did you conduct the interview?
Agreed!
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I hope this guy has some skills sets other than lifting heavy things and putting them down. That only lasts for so long. His 15 minutes of YT fame will not last either.
Youth slips away very quickly... all of the sudden, you're old. What's he going to do then?
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I hope this guy has some skills sets other than lifting heavy things and putting them down. That only lasts for so long. His 15 minutes of YT fame will not last either.
Youth slips away very quickly... all of the sudden, you're old. What's he going to do then?
This.
Because ever since the drug genie was let out of the syringe, bodybuilders are a dime a bakers dozen. It's nothing more than an imitation of life and you need look no further than this Antoine guy for proof. If ignorance were indeed bliss, then he's just behind Genova.
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I hope this guy has some skills sets other than lifting heavy things and putting them down. That only lasts for so long. His 15 minutes of YT fame will not last either.
Youth slips away very quickly... all of the sudden, you're old. What's he going to do then?
He seems to do well as a PT. Some may argue that PT isn't a real job, but money is money.
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He seems to do well as a PT. Some may argue that PT isn't a real job, but money is money.
Economy is horrible and it will only get worse. I hope he has a lot of rich clients.
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Economy is horrible and it will only get worse. I hope he has a lot of rich clients.
Isn't he living in Montreal? There will always be a rich upperclass who wants to be(come) in shape, and most of them work in large cities. His name, knowledge & charisma is working in his advantage.
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Isn't he living in Montreal? There will always be a rich upperclass who wants to be(come) in shape, and most of them work in large cities. His name, knowledge & charisma is working in his advantage.
Couldn't agree more.
Antoine is very goal-driven and focused and i'm always surprised at how quick he lands certain jobs.
For instance fresh out of rehab this time and he is lined up with a gym (trains free) , Personal training Gig with
a handful of clients already. Re-Signed with some old sponsor(s), and he does this solely on his charisma, attitude, and
a quick mention of how many Social media followers he has ( 300 k Facebook + 125 k Instagram I believe)
People forget Antoine built his following long before he turned pro, or competed on a pro-stage. It's his shenanigans and character that people seem to admire and I have no doubt he can re-gain some of that in the coming months, 1 video at a time.
Also mad respect for not going the G4P route as many others would have.
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Couldn't agree more.
Antoine is very goal-driven and focused and i'm always surprised at how quick he lands certain jobs.
For instance fresh out of rehab this time and he is lined up with a gym (trains free) , Personal training Gig with
a handful of clients already. Re-Signed with some old sponsor(s), and he does this solely on his charisma, attitude, and
a quick mention of how many Social media followers he has ( 300 k Facebook + 125 k Instagram I believe)
People forget Antoine built his following long before he turned pro, or competed on a pro-stage. It's his shenanigans and character that people seem to admire and I have no doubt he can re-gain some of that in the coming months, 1 video at a time.
Also mad respect for not going the G4P route as many others would have.
Loiked the interview , one thing that stood out is he acknowledged that "the pump is not the cure". I thought at the times before he was living a bit too much off the adulation of others and too much too soon. He will do better in the long run by just being himself and finding who was himself is and take it from there.
He has a good look for outside of bodybuilding so he doe not have to do anything stupid with his body nor drugs to get there, plus how many men in thongs can do a back flip?
Good luck to him, but as I know, it takes much more than that
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He seems to do well as a PT. Some may argue that PT isn't a real job, but money is money.
What separates PT's that have a successful career and PT's that just had a job is #1, the ability to adapt. & #2, the ability to explain things in a way that is easy for everybody to understand.
(Super simplified, obviously)
Antoine is obviously personable, quick-witted, & knowledgeable/experienced. Those traits could enable him to be pretty successful as a personal trainer.
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It was me who leaked Antoine's stint to rehab to the MD boards under the username "Listerine". In the same thread, I stated that I feared for Antoine's health.
It was not appropriate for me to share this information - the Nutrition House owner told me this information about Antoine in confidence. I shared it in part because I was disappointed in Antoine. But I'm not sure that public shaming is the solution. I should not have shared the information online - least of all, under a user name. It was inappropriate.
Antoine, if you are reading - I'm sorry.
That said, maybe consider moving to some little French community like Saint-Isidore, Quebec - the birthplace/hometown of Georges St-Pierre, far away from the party scene.
- Matt Canning
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What separates PT's that have a successful career and PT's that just had a job is #1, the ability to adapt. & #2, the ability to explain things in a way that is easy for everybody to understand.
(Super simplified, obviously)
Antoine is obviously personable, quick-witted, & knowledgeable/experienced. Those traits could enable him to be pretty successful as a personal trainer.
Point 1 is important to any professional, esp the ability to pay attention to the client's feedback and to make adjustments when needed. Another important point is the ability to inspire/motivate people, which is always a combination of appearance and communication skills.
Yeah, Ant has plenty of experience and I'm pretty sure he can always ask John Meadows for a second opinion.
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It was me who leaked Antoine's stint to rehab to the MD boards under the username "Listerine". In the same thread, I stated that I feared for Antoine's health.
It was not appropriate for me to share this information - the Nutrition House owner told me this information about Antoine in confidence. I shared it in part because I was disappointed in Antoine. But I'm not sure that public shaming is the solution. I should not have shared the information online - least of all, under a user name. It was inappropriate.
Antoine, if you are reading - I'm sorry.
That said, maybe consider moving to some little French community like Saint-Isidore, Quebec - the birthplace/hometown of Georges St-Pierre, far away from the party scene.
- Matt Canning
Decent of you to fess up but why did you break that fellas confidence? Juicy gossip?
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What separates PT's that have a successful career and PT's that just had a job is #1, the ability to adapt. & #2, the ability to explain things in a way that is easy for everybody to understand.
(Super simplified, obviously)
Antoine is obviously personable, quick-witted, & knowledgeable/experienced. Those traits could enable him to be pretty successful as a personal trainer.
Explain what?... muscle physiology and biomechanics? -lol
All PT's are there for is to hold the clients hand and count reps.
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Explain what?... muscle physiology and biomechanics? -lol
All PT's are there for is to hold the clients hand and count reps.
You underestimate just how ignorant some people are. Some people genuinely have no clue how to train, how the body works or how to eat.
I was doing dumbbell curls once with a slow negative, someone asked me if going down slowly works the triceps. That's just basic physics.
Some people need a lot more.
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Explain what?... muscle physiology and biomechanics? -lol
All PT's are there for is to hold the clients hand and count reps.
Yeah, that's all it takes to get a client in his/her best shape, no need for setting up/adjusting someone's training or diet regimen ::)
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I train 3 clients just to have some "play" money each month.
One client lost close to 100 lbs and won't let me get rid of her. (Female & Mental Crutch)
One client just doesn't want to be a female in weight room at 5 am by herself. (Female & Mental Crutch)
One client wouldn't even come to the gym if she didn't hire me. (Female & Mental Crutch)
I get an extra $12k/year to be a mental crutch for females. Personal Trainer my ass...
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Yeah, that's all it takes to get a client in his/her best shape, no need for setting up/adjusting someone's training or diet regimen ::)
I've been around for 30 years and seen/heard it all. You can cherry pick, and there are some PT's who know their shit, but they are far and few between. The majority are young, 20-somethings who lack the qualifications/experience and have no clue of what they are doing. All that is required to be a PT at LA Fitness and similar gyms is a piece of paper saying you answered a few multiple choice or true and false questions correctly. I would say 80% of PTs fall into this category. The general public is full of ignorant, weak-mined snowflakes who need their little hand held... that is the main reason why people hire PTs.
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I train 3 clients just to have some "play" money each month.
One client lost close to 100 lbs and won't let me get rid of her. (Female & Mental Crutch)
One client just doesn't want to be a female in weight room at 5 am by herself. (Female & Mental Crutch)
One client wouldn't even come to the gym if she didn't hire me. (Female & Mental Crutch)
I get an extra $12k/year to be a mental crutch for females. Personal Trainer my ass...
This is exactly what I mean... most PT's are nothing more than a hand holding crutch. If you can exploit this... great.
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I've been around for 30 years and seen/heard it all. You can cherry pick, and there are some PT's who know their shit, but they are far and few between. The majority are young, 20-somethings who lack the qualifications/experience and have no clue of what they are doing. All that is required to be a PT at LA Fitness and similar gyms is a piece of paper saying you answered a few multiple choice or true and false questions correctly. I would say 80% of PTs fall into this category. The general public is full of ignorant, weak-mined snowflakes who need their little hand held... that is the main reason why people hire PTs.
There are many shitty trainers, who work with public templates anyone can find with some Googling, and yeah, the majority lack deep knowledge/experience about training, nutrition, physiology, etc and besides that: poor communication skills and not a true passion when you talk to them about training. During my certification, I realized that I wouldn't hire anyone from that class as a trainer.
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anyone who takes money from people for training or diet advice is a piece of shit, just share your knowledge willingly and freely.
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anyone who takes money from people for training or diet advice is a piece of shit, just share your knowledge willingly and freely.
Some idealistic flower power displayed here
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Some idealistic flower power displayed here
you can tell someone all they will ever need to know about training and diet in 10 minutes.
its not a lot of time to give someone.
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you can tell someone all they will ever need to know about training and diet in 10 minutes.
its not a lot of time to give someone.
If a PT session is only about sharing knowledge, then yes. In fact, you could handle them a book in that case.
The reality is that training/diet regimens need to be adjusted from time to time, clients can lose their focus, motivation or forget things, and so much more than that. The bottom line is that most people are too lazy or don't have the time to learn everything themselves.
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If a PT session is only about sharing knowledge, then yes. In fact, you could handle them a book in that case.
The reality is that training/diet regimens need to be adjusted from time to time, clients can lose their focus, motivation or forget things, and so much more than that. The bottom line is that most people are too lazy or don't have the time to learn everything themselves.
I have always liked/respected your username.
If Peter North posted here, what do you think his username would be? My guess would be "DroppingLoads".
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If a PT session is only about sharing knowledge, then yes. In fact, you could handle them a book in that case.
The reality is that training/diet regimens need to be adjusted from time to time, clients can lose their focus, motivation or forget things, and so much more than that. The bottom line is that most people are too lazy or don't have the time to learn everything themselves.
then they shouldnt be doing it it in the first place, fuck people with no internal motivation, they will always end up fat and fucked.
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I have always liked/respected your username.
If Peter North posted here, what do you think his username would be? My guess would be "DroppingLoads".
I love watching porn, but I had to figure out first who this Peter was :D
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then they shouldnt be doing it it in the first place, fuck people with no internal motivation, they will always end up fat and fucked.
They're motivated to see results, but they're often less motivated to get out of their comfort zone. Even motivated folks have their obstacles like full agendas or they forget things all the time. I remember a young dude from the last category. He always came up with the same or stupid questions, but with the right guidance he won his first show.
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Explain what?... muscle physiology and biomechanics? -lol
All PT's are there for is to hold the clients hand and count reps.
Its that type of thinking that seperates shitty pts and those of us who have successful careers as trainers.
You have to understand the majority of people who have trainers arnt bodybuilders. Most people have that same thinking/opinions of trainers. Ill give them a feee session and theyre expecting me to walk them from machine to machine and count reps inbetween checking facebook, but instead I'll explain what theyre gona do and why. Sometimes using proper terminology and then explaining it in a way that they understand (layman's terms) & you that ligjtbulb go off& they realize theyre not just having somebody change the pin on their weigjtstack, they're also getting an education. Make it clear to them the goal is to teach them things so that one day they no longer need me... But the more they learn, the more they realize they don't know. And that is why they continue to stay on as clients.
Thats why i have clients remain with me for 5, 6+ years & how ive been able to do this for over 17years..
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I train 3 clients just to have some "play" money each month.
One client lost close to 100 lbs and won't let me get rid of her. (Female & Mental Crutch)
One client just doesn't want to be a female in weight room at 5 am by herself. (Female & Mental Crutch)
One client wouldn't even come to the gym if she didn't hire me. (Female & Mental Crutch)
I get an extra $12k/year to be a mental crutch for females. Personal Trainer my ass...
Yep, clients like that are very common. & 40yr old married female clients who enjoy attention from a handsome younger guy with a physique. Often catch them staring at my crotch. I was "let in on a secret" years ago that the girls could see the outline of my cock in my track-pants. Lol... Needless to say, about 75-80% of my clients are women, & my bootcamp classes are popular and about 100% female.
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anyone who takes money from people for training or diet advice is a piece of shit, just share your knowledge willingly and freely.
Yet we've yet to see you post anything training or nutrition-related (in other words, "constructive")... What a surprise.
Maybe you're just bitter because nobody will help you, much less even speak or associate with you. Maybe your lack of friends has something to do with you being 50+ years old & complete lack of social skills.
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Decent of you to fess up but why did you break that fellas confidence? Juicy gossip?
I suppose it was partially that. Consider that Antoine had gone to rehab before, so it's not as if it was breaking news that he went again. I was also a little disappointed that Antoine did not make it to my city, as he was the big draw. I was also a little personally disappointed in Antoine...it was really not cool for him to leave his fans hanging like this, but I understand that he has his demons.
Sharing Antoine's story was not my business.
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ANTOINE VAILLANT - SIMON LACASSE - LEG TRAINING @ GYM VICTORY
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I suppose it was partially that. Consider that Antoine had gone to rehab before, so it's not as if it was breaking news that he went again. I was also a little disappointed that Antoine did not make it to my city, as he was the big draw. I was also a little personally disappointed in Antoine...it was really not cool for him to leave his fans hanging like this, but I understand that he has his demons.
Sharing Antoine's story was not my business.
"His fans" ::)
Antione better have a plan B. His 15 minutes of YT stardom is fading fast. I predict he'll commit suicide at some point.
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"His fans" ::)
Antione better have a plan B. His 15 minutes of YT stardom is fading fast. I predict he'll commit suicide at some point.
Yup. He needs to get a solid job at the local Piggly-Wiggly or Harbor Freight and get on with his life. Such as it is because live to pose, pose to live is not really much of a life.
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Yup. He needs to get a solid job at the local Piggly-Wiggly or Harbor Freight and get on with his life. Such as it is because live to pose, pose to live is not really much of a life.
Because you're an expert on helping drug addicts, right?
You could always call the cops on him and have him locked up "for his own good".
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Because you're an expert on helping drug addicts, right?
You could always call the cops on him and have him locked up "for his own good".
It must really hurt to realize that this is as good as it will ever be for you, huh? Run along before I have your PO ring you up, little man. What a cuntlette you are. And yes I would say as much to your face and you would do nothing. Unless of course, you still have a taste for PBJ, little monkey.
And as for meeting. How do you know we haven't? You are such a shitass. Pathetic imitation of a life.
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Because you're an expert on helping drug addicts, right?
You could always call the cops on him and have him locked up "for his own good".
I suppose you are mr "Expert at fucking everything"
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Antoine Vaillant is out of shape but still does bodybuilding poses 06/05/2017
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I have always liked/respected your username.
If Peter North posted here, what do you think his username would be? My guess would be "DroppingLoads".
those loads are epic :o
haha ;D - dude loves his clomid
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Antoine Vaillant is out of shape but still does bodybuilding poses 06/05/2017
just looks way off season and that is fine - 12-16 weeks dude could dial it in -
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just looks way off season and that is fine - 12-16 weeks dude could dial it in -
He's fat like an off season Lee Priest, but he shouldn't focus too much on cutting. Instead he should focus on a lean bulk with a slight calorie surplus. Esp his back needs work.
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I expected him to look way worse than that, considering what's been going on
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I expected him to look way worse than that, considering what's been going on
Certainly seems to have great genetics. Heavy lifting thickness for sure.
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I expected him to look way worse than that, considering what's been going on
most of it is water smooth,he's thick as shit just 'soft'ish at that,,
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god i hate big beards on men - no homo
that abe lincoln look is not appealing
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Antoine does muscle ups and then support his friends that are prepping
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Dude is a drugged up mental midget. Piggly Wiggly is too difficult for him. Needs to seek out the advices of Ric Drasin.
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Dude is a drugged up mental midget. Piggly Wiggly is too difficult for him. Needs to seek out the advices of Ric Drasin.
What's Piggly Wiggly?
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What's Piggly Wiggly?
They're like 7-11, only with a ridiculous name. ;D
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They're like 7-11, only with a ridiculous name. ;D
Only in america? Or UK?
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Only in america? Or UK?
As far as I know, it's an Amurican thing. ;D ;D
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Antoine and friend Joey Pyontka train pectorals and deltoids heavily
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Antoine and friend Joey Pyontka train pectorals and deltoids heavily
"Music" at the beginning is dreadful :D
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"Music" at the beginning is dreadful :D
WIGGS goes ape shit bananas when he hears those Niburian voices..
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what are those brown spots on his shoulder/back ?
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what are those brown spots on his shoulder/back ?
Cupping therapy
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What's Piggly Wiggly?
Piggly Wiggly = Wiggs?
??? ??? ???
"Music" at the beginning is dreadful :D
Antoine's taste in music = crap.
It sucks.
WIGGS goes ape shit bananas when he hears those Niburian voices..
;D ;D ;D
what are those brown spots on his shoulder/back ?
I am not sure, but I believe cancer.
Perhaps he needs to put down the drugs - both the injectible kind as well as the snortable kind.
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What city in Quebec is he from?
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What city in Quebec is he from?
If I remember correctly it is Granby, east of Montreal.
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If I remember correctly it is Granby, east of Montreal.
Very interesting.
French Canadians are some of the only White people who have some instincts in terms of self-preservation. Most White people are too stupid.
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Antoine and friends train legs in Dorian's garage gym on a rainy day
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Antoine takes over the garage gym!
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Antoine supports his friend Cody competing in the OPA then goes to the keg with buddies
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what are those brown spots on his shoulder/back ?
Whatever it is, it can't be good.
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Whatever it is, it can't be good.
That stuff that Michael phelps made popular. Cup therapy I believe is the name.
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That stuff that Michael phelps made popular. Cup therapy I believe is the name.
Cupping therapy is an ancient therapy in parts of Asia, they even use it in hospitals.
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Cupping therapy is an ancient therapy in parts of Asia, they even use it in hospitals.
Impossible. He is to busy injecting
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Impossible. He is to busy injecting
Hardy, har, har..
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Cupping therapy is an ancient therapy in parts of Asia, they even use it in hospitals.
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/kygl.com/files/2013/11/testicle-cup-for-cancer-630.jpg)
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(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/kygl.com/files/2013/11/testicle-cup-for-cancer-630.jpg)
This must be the British version
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Antoine trains deltoids with Cody at 99 sudbury gym
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He's getting back in pretty good shape. Looked noticeably bigger in the shoulder trading video. If he can stay clean he's still got time to get a good sponsorship and make a little money. Good on camera and is more popular than most of the other Pro's bbers
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Antoine's SMV (Schmoe Market Value) is rapidly declining.
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He's getting back in pretty good shape. Looked noticeably bigger in the shoulder trading video. If he can stay clean he's still got time to get a good sponsorship and make a little money. Good on camera and is more popular than most of the other Pro's bbers
dude likes to train 8),,through it all..
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dude likes to train 8),,through it all..
One of the best forms of self-care. It's just you and the weights and nothing else matters at that time :)
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One of the best forms of self-care. It's just you and the weights and nothing else matters at that time :)
x2,,i love it...
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He's back over 270 already. Cool gym
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Awesome Guy....Happy he's back.
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hopefully he stays focused.
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Antoine does an educational back workout video
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Antoine does an educational back workout video
Oil on the left
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damn, facewise he looks a lot older and tired.
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Oil on the left
Yes, so obvious.
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Antoine and Johan training arms in French
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Antoine and Johan training arms in French
strong curls. 100lb dbs
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strong curls. 100lb dbs
Funny how Arnold never used more than 65lbs on any version of DB curl.
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Antoine does an educational back workout video
"...does an educational back workout..."
*SNICKER*
What a maroon. Not you, Gregzs. The Antoinette fella.
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how the hell is this thread 47 pages? who's antonie vaillant?
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"...does an educational back workout..."
*SNICKER*
What a maroon. Not you, Gregzs. The Antoinette fella.
He's good in deadlifts, but the rest of his back work is poor technique with partial roms. Someone needs to educate him about the difference between training for powerlifting and bodybuilding.
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Antoine's current leg workout
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Antoine has already landed a new sponsor. ( I think he's got 3 or 4 sponsors backing him at the moment)
Say what you want but he's always been good at marketing himself and giving exposure to a company.
Also his shape is back to a level we haven't seen in 3 to 4 years. He's aiming to try the new Super League [Dorian Yates' federation]
which he should do good in I believe.
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I'm not a fan of the concept behind the Super League, but it seems a good fit for Antoine given his 'power-building' training style
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I'm not a fan of the concept behind the Super League, but it seems a good fit for Antoine given his 'power-building' training style
Yeah I had zero interest in even visiting the website back when Dorian was on JRE podcast promoting it. Just something about it seems like it's a flash in the pan but hey , if a guy like Antoine can do well there, it's just another accomplishment for him and probably helps keep his sponsors happy , and give him a goal to strive for.
Might be better to prep for this than cardio, diet, more cardio , no social life and then take diuretics to go on stage
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Yeah I had zero interest in even visiting the website back when Dorian was on JRE podcast promoting it. Just something about it seems like it's a flash in the pan but hey , if a guy like Antoine can do well there, it's just another accomplishment for him and probably helps keep his sponsors happy , and give him a goal to strive for.
Might be better to prep for this than cardio, diet, more cardio , no social life and then take diuretics to go on stage
When was his last show, that NY pro 3-4 years ago where he looked like a big smooth baby?
The whole process of prepping/suffering for a show seems too conflicting for a strong social guy like him, who loves to do spontaneous things. He needs a goal/goals, like all of us do, so I wish him best of luck.
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he should stick to doing somersaults, thats how he got famous in the first place.
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how the hell is this thread 47 pages? who's antonie vaillant?
Antoine is just a guy with a drug problem, who has been to rehab several times and should probably stay away from all drugs, including steroids...
...but he'd ratherbebig.
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Antoine is just a guy with a drug problem, who has been to rehab several times and should probably stay away from all drugs, including steroids...
...but he'd ratherbebig.
RBB is just trolling for attention
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Antoine is just a guy with a drug problem, who has been to rehab several times and should probably stay away from all drugs, including steroids...
...but he'd ratherbebig.
To say he's just "a guy with a drug problem" is very dismissive...
In case you forgot he's a guy who's name was more commonly known than some of the top 10 Olympians between 2011 and 2013.
He's a guy who exploded on youtube BEFORE guys like Boston, Rich [RIP] and CT Fletcher and Kali Muscle.
He broke the mould for what a bodybuilder needed to have accomplished in order to be "famous". His personality got him an incredible following.
And I say all this, because he accomplished all these things 1 year or 2 BEFORE even getting his Pro-Card.
Nobody is more aware of his addiction situation than he is and he know's nothing is more important than staying clean.
He has been able to be big, be productive, and set goals way before he had his addiction issues.
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That's odd. Before this thread I'd never heard of him and neither has anyone I know at my gym who follows pro bodybuilding. They all know Fletcher, Rich, Kali, though.
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To say he's just "a guy with a drug problem" is very dismissive...
In case you forgot he's a guy who's name was more commonly known than some of the top 10 Olympians between 2011 and 2013.
He's a guy who exploded on youtube BEFORE guys like Boston, Rich [RIP] and CT Fletcher and Kali Muscle.
He broke the mould for what a bodybuilder needed to have accomplished in order to be "famous". His personality got him an incredible following.
And I say all this, because he accomplished all these things 1 year or 2 BEFORE even getting his Pro-Card.
Nobody is more aware of his addiction situation than he is and he know's nothing is more important than staying clean.
He has been able to be big, be productive, and set goals way before he had his addiction issues.
I only made that statement so I could throw in the part about how Antoine would ratherbebig. ;D Love getting that expression in after my favourite Getbigger - ratherbebig!
I also like Never1AShow. Speaking of which, upon turning pro, Antoine Never1AShow. He came in far too heavy at the 2013 Toronto Pro. He came in at around 250 when he should have been 230 or 235 max.
It is dismissive to say that Antoine is "just" a guy with a drug problem. Drug problems are difficult to deal with.
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I only made that statement so I could throw in the part about how Antoine would ratherbebig. ;D Love getting that expression in after my favourite Getbigger - ratherbebig!
I also like Never1AShow. Speaking of which, upon turning pro, Antoine Never1AShow. He came in far too heavy at the 2013 Toronto Pro. He came in at around 250 when he should have been 230 or 235 max.
It is dismissive to say that Antoine is "just" a guy with a drug problem. Drug problems are difficult to deal with.
Do you fear for his health?
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Antoine gets a pump with Nam Thomas the day after SUPERLEAGUE
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Does anyone know if the super league was a success?
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Antoine is just a guy with a drug problem, who has been to rehab several times and should probably stay away from all drugs, including steroids...
...but he'd ratherbebig.
He might not have as much quality muscle or definition as the legendary Matt "The Parched/Parshed One" Canning, but i find Antoine having quite the respectable physique even without a parsh.
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Do you fear for his health?
Absolutely. Being over 250-lb and straining the body even further with stimulants is not good.
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Does anyone know if the super league was a success?
Antoine got 5th in the super heavies.
Other notable news IFBB pro Paulo Almeida tore his bicep. There's a video on Instagram of it.
Other than that I can't say. Not much media out there for it
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Antoine Trains with Regan Grimes in Ottawa
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Antoine Vaillant Heavy Incline Bench
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I feel badly about breaking the news that Antoine missed his Thunder Bay visit due to entering rehab...again. I shouldn't have done it - let alone anonymously on the MD boards.
That being said, Antoine should likely be nowhere near cocaine, but as many know, some people have the genetic desire to use it - I think, as Mike Quinn said in his 2004 T-Nation interview with Ron Harris - it helps those with ADHD. I think I am WAY too high strung to enjoy cocaine, and have never used it. I did love my Percocet prescription, which leads me to believe my genetics are more suited for drugs that sedate me, rather than lift me up.
Antoine likes coke though - it's not entirely his fault, because genetic predisposition plays a role. But he should be nowhere near cocaine. As it is only psychologically addictive, he should perhaps consider antidepressants or something of the sort. Working out helps, but I'm not so sure I want him taxing his heart with both steroids and cocaine.
I was going to send him an invite to live in one of the houses I rent in Thunder Bay, but that would be selfish, as I should just focus on my three children. I do hope that Antoine can get this monkey off his back. He's tough, so I think it's possible, but with each relapse, I'm not as confident in that. I wish him the best, but he should probably stay far away from drugs. If that's possible.
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Antoine likes cocaine because he is a stupid fucktard. Fear not, the pussy known as SF1900 will be along shortly to say cocaine is harmless.
Back to Antoine. Fuck that idiot doper and his worthless drugged physique. WTF? It's not your fault he's a weak willed wussy. A "genetic" predisposition? Really? I suppose Kai has a genetic predisposition to fucking grapefruit and walking around with what appears to be a toilet boa on his thick skull? Antoine is a fucking loser and drug addict just like SF1900 is a pretend Asian with a genetic predisposition to being a fatass libtard.
Matt, you did nothing wrong except for being an sycophantic apologetic for a fucking missing link like Antoine.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=456429.0;attach=502992)
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I feel badly about breaking the news that Antoine missed his Thunder Bay visit due to entering rehab...again. I shouldn't have done it - let alone anonymously on the MD boards.
That being said, Antoine should likely be nowhere near cocaine, but as many know, some people have the genetic desire to use it - I think, as Mike Quinn said in his 2004 T-Nation interview with Ron Harris - it helps those with ADHD. I think I am WAY too high strung to enjoy cocaine, and have never used it. I did love my Percocet prescription, which leads me to believe my genetics are more suited for drugs that sedate me, rather than lift me up.
Antoine likes coke though - it's not entirely his fault, because genetic predisposition plays a role. But he should be nowhere near cocaine. As it is only psychologically addictive, he should perhaps consider antidepressants or something of the sort. Working out helps, but I'm not so sure I want him taxing his heart with both steroids and cocaine.
I was going to send him an invite to live in one of the houses I rent in Thunder Bay, but that would be selfish, as I should just focus on my three children. I do hope that Antoine can get this monkey off his back. He's tough, so I think it's possible, but with each relapse, I'm not as confident in that. I wish him the best, but he should probably stay far away from drugs. If that's possible.
What substances has Antoine abused? People have said he's been in rehab for meth, and someone told me years ago another pro had suggested it to him for preps. I think GHB has been mentioned too.
Matt, just because you are high strung and enjoy painkillers does in no way mean you wouldn't enjoy stims. Or even better, the percs WITH stims, doubt you would hate it if you like altered states at all. But it's better not to try it of course.
As an aside, some docs have wondered why no stims are used for substitution treatment like in the case of painkiller addicts getting subutex or methadone etc. Though I sort of suspect many do, though on paper it's for adhd or add, which everyone seems to have today.
I'm sure Antoine has been through the antidepressants already, which treatment seeking addict hasn't.
Antoine was looking real big recently and often writing about successfully staying clean and encouraging other addicts on IG.
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Antoine likes cocaine because he is a stupid fucktard. Fear not, the pussy known as SF1900 will be along shortly to say cocaine is harmless.
Back to Antoine. Fuck that idiot doper and his worthless drugged physique. WTF? It's not your fault he's a weak willed wussy. A "genetic" predisposition? Really? I suppose Kai has a genetic predisposition to fucking grapefruit and walking around with what appears to be a toilet boa on his thick skull? Antoine is a fucking loser and drug addict just like SF1900 is a pretend Asian with a genetic predisposition to being a fatass libtard.
Matt, you did nothing wrong except for being an sycophantic apologetic for a fucking missing link like Antoine.
I tend to subscribe to the concept that most traits are 50-80% genetic, with my view being the higher end of this range - 80%. Also, did you read the interview with Mike Quinn by Ron Harris that was published online in T-NATION in 2004? In it, he stated that he used cocaine as self-medication for his ADHD. While I did not believe it at first, I eventually had more than one person with ADHD tell me the same thing, leading me to believe there was some truth to it.
I also know from my own experiences that I am virtually terrified of alcohol, drugs, and even sex [due to fear of herpes], and you almost couldn't force me to do these things. The only drug that I have found that has jived with my brain chemistry has been opiates [based on a Percocet prescription I got once], and CBD [which is legal in Canada, and non-psychoactive]. So if my lack of drug and alcohol use can be largely genetic [I am almost allergic to both - it's bizarre], then couldn't a person's propensity to using certain drugs have a genetic driver?
I am not justifying any behaviour, merely suggesting that it is genetic in origin. I would use Ted Bundy as the most egregious example - he claimed that his serial killing and necrophilia was based on watching violent porn as a child. Using his logic, there would be thousands, if not millions, of serial killers in the USA right now. As many men watched violent pornography, and probably all men watched non-violent pornography [again, being genetically afraid of indulging, I did not watch a pornography movie until the age of 16]. So I tend to think there was something more than that environmental condition at play - what could it have been if not genetics? What in Ted's perfectly normal environment caused him to rape and murder women, and then come back to their grave sites to have sex with their dead bodies? He wanted to claim it was environment, but countless other men had virtually the same upbringing as him, so I'm not buying it. It has to be something - something likely found in his DNA.
I used Bundy as an example because I am NOT justifying behaviour just because I happen to feel that its origins are genetic - I'm merely pointing out that it is likely strongly genetic. And again, by "strongly", I mean about 50-80% genetic. In other words, from the moment Antoine was introduced to cocaine, he was bound to like it. In addition to being surrounded by it - due to going to so many expos, and likely being invited to so many parties after contests were over, stuff like that. He also had a very good bodybuilding merchandise business going on, where he was likely making $1,000 a week selling his autographs and stuff online. Combine that with his UNIVERSAL contract, previous contract with Muscular Development, and I would say there was a period of time where he had something like $10,000 a month coming in - definitely enough to live life on his own terms, and spend a few thousand a month on cocaine - or more. Given that friends would probably treat him to some.
So no justifying anything here - I'm just saying his genetic penchant for cocaine combined with his survival in a highly drug-based and superficial industry was just the perfect storm for Antoine to get hooked. And he did.
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What substances has Antoine abused? People have said he's been in rehab for meth, and someone told me years ago another pro had suggested it to him for preps. I think GHB has been mentioned too.
Matt, just because you are high strung and enjoy painkillers does in no way mean you wouldn't enjoy stims. Or even better, the percs WITH stims, doubt you would hate it if you like altered states at all. But it's better not to try it of course.
As an aside, some docs have wondered why no stims are used for substitution treatment like in the case of painkiller addicts getting subutex or methadone etc. Though I sort of suspect many do, though on paper it's for adhd or add, which everyone seems to have today.
I'm sure Antoine has been through the antidepressants already, which treatment seeking addict hasn't.
Antoine was looking real big recently and often writing about successfully staying clean and encouraging other addicts on IG.
Ah yes - you are correct about the more recent bout with relapse that Antoine had. It was indeed crystal meth that caused him to go into rehab the time that he missed his Thunder Bay date. That may have been his seventh relapse, if I recall correctly.
As for myself, you think that despite my being high strung, and enjoying opiates the most, that I might enjoy cocaine? Well, to be honest, I likely would not use it simply because it is touched by way too many hands by the time it gets to North America. It is too impure, and even at the source, it is not exactly "pure". The recipe has even changed in Colombia - I believe they banned the import of diesel fuel or something like that into Colombia [the UN banned it, I think]. So they had to move on to making it with another ingredient. So even pure cocaine is not exactly pure. Add to that the numerous cutting agents that go into it every step of the way [and I'm not taking about a benign B vitamin like Inositol, but anything and everything, including ground up glass], it just makes the drug highly unattractive to me. And if I like it - then what? Even a lowly cut-up gram would cost $100 where I am from. Is that worth it? And what would that gram actually be? Under half a gram of actually "pure" cocaine which, as I said, isn't even cocaine when pure?
I think that Safrole oil was banned from being imported into Canada from China - end result was that MDMA had to be produced using another ingredient. That does NOT make things more safe, it makes things less safe. New agents are used to substitute a proven ingredient, and then we know a lot less about the effects of those new ingredients. Law enforcement is doing no good by doing this.
Maybe...just MAYBE...if I knew I was using actual cocaine, rather than God knows what passes for cocaine these days, I would consider trying it. But as I said, I think it would just make me more high strung. Who knows though...I could enjoy it. But then what - would I be using it daily and destroying my heart while doing so? I would not want that situation, especially not with children to support.
Sorry for the long posts. ;D
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Ah yes - you are correct about the more recent bout with relapse that Antoine had. It was indeed crystal meth that caused him to go into rehab the time that he missed his Thunder Bay date. That may have been his seventh relapse, if I recall correctly.
As for myself, you think that despite my being high strung, and enjoying opiates the most, that I might enjoy cocaine? Well, to be honest, I likely would not use it simply because it is touched by way too many hands by the time it gets to North America. It is too impure, and even at the source, it is not exactly "pure". The recipe has even changed in Colombia - I believe they banned the import of diesel fuel or something like that into Colombia [the UN banned it, I think]. So they had to move on to making it with another ingredient. So even pure cocaine is not exactly pure. Add to that the numerous cutting agents that go into it every step of the way [and I'm not taking about a benign B vitamin like Inositol, but anything and everything, including ground up glass], it just makes the drug highly unattractive to me. And if I like it - then what? Even a lowly cut-up gram would cost $100 where I am from. Is that worth it? And what would that gram actually be? Under half a gram of actually "pure" cocaine which, as I said, isn't even cocaine when pure?
I think that Safrole oil was banned from being imported into Canada from China - end result was that MDMA had to be produced using another ingredient. That does NOT make things more safe, it makes things less safe. New agents are used to substitute a proven ingredient, and then we know a lot less about the effects of those new ingredients. Law enforcement is doing no good by doing this.
Maybe...just MAYBE...if I knew I was using actual cocaine, rather than God knows what passes for cocaine these days, I would consider trying it. But as I said, I think it would just make me more high strung. Who knows though...I could enjoy it. But then what - would I be using it daily and destroying my heart while doing so? I would not want that situation, especially not with children to support.
Sorry for the long posts. ;D
Its OK no one reads them.....
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Antoine likes cocaine because he is a stupid fucktard. Fear not, the pussy known as SF1900 will be along shortly to say cocaine is harmless.
Back to Antoine. Fuck that idiot doper and his worthless drugged physique. WTF? It's not your fault he's a weak willed wussy. A "genetic" predisposition? Really? I suppose Kai has a genetic predisposition to fucking grapefruit and walking around with what appears to be a toilet boa on his thick skull? Antoine is a fucking loser and drug addict just like SF1900 is a pretend Asian with a genetic predisposition to being a fatass libtard.
Matt, you did nothing wrong except for being an sycophantic apologetic for a fucking missing link like Antoine.
;D
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Supposedly 278lbs
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His new gf.
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His new gf.
Still better than that trannie
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Still better than that trannie
I didn't realize he was with one.
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I didn't realize he was with one.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465752.0;attach=520192;image)
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I didn't realize he was with one.
They look happy, good for them
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Regan looks fluffy but huge.
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This druggie would probably enjoy Kuwait and their "all you can eat" drug policy. Imagine if he went there, go all in on drugs and then went to rehab like a boss. Instead, he is shooting heroin in some village around Vancouver and going to rehab like a true loser.
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This druggie would probably enjoy Kuwait and their "all you can eat" drug policy. Imagine if he went there, go all in on drugs and then went to rehab like a boss. Instead, he is shooting heroin in some village around Vancouver and going to rehab like a true loser.
Better to burn out than to fade away
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Supposedly 278lbs
Not even close...I met him a few times and he has probably never been more than 250 lbs...he is very unimpressive in real life!!
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Trained with Antoine today, and i'm very happy to say that he's the best he's looked and felt in a while.
First time seeing him since the Universal series when they filmed him moving to Toronto and they interviewed me and some other ppl. (2 years ago)
It was great seeing my friend back on track and doing well.
Also, this interview was just released yesterday. It answers pretty much any and ALL questions people have been asking in this thread. All the stuff people have been wondering about him... When, Why, How etc...
He's honest about his shortcomings, makes no excuses, and is as humble and honest as can be.
Trust me when I say he is now starting from GROUND ZERO, and I have every ounce of respect for the guy, as I always did.
Is getting back to ground zero again?
With a fully loaded shot of heroin in his arm?
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Antoine Vaillant 20 Weeks Out of Vancouver Train with the Pros
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Dude's a mental midget and would be a physical one without his dope. Feckin' retard.
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Dude's a mental midget and would be a physical one without his dope. Feckin' retard.
He seems doing well these days and that's what matters..
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He seems doing well these days and that's what matters..
It's said that necessity is the mother of invention. Assumption is the mother of this fucktard. He assumes he is going to "make it". He's not. He's long since screwed the pooch of opportunity. There comes a point in every person's life where they either wake up to life or hit the snooze button one two many times.
He's the latter of those two.
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It's said that necessity is the mother of invention. Assumption is the mother of this fucktard. He assumes he is going to "make it". He's not. He's long since screwed the pooch of opportunity. There comes a point in every person's life where they either wake up to life or hit the snooze button one two many times.
He's the latter of those two.
That being said, which advice would you give him, assuming(!) that he's listening?
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That being said, which advice would you give him, assuming(!) that he's listening?
Get off the drugs. All of them. And then? Get an education and a job and get on with living a real life. This versus the imitation of one he's currently "living" now. This goes for a lot of so-called "bodybuilders" out there. Like Aaron Clark.
They won't. The FARCE is too strong in them. There's a real difference in living the dream like Arnold has done and livin' the scheme like the rest of them do.
These dime a dozen walking wang-wagons wake up in a cheesy SchMoetel 6ex, surrounded by needles, vials and empty bottles of pills. Their anus sore from having some schmoe pound their sphincter or their dick covered in feces from them being the pitcher instead of the catcher and you'd think they would look in the mirror and say, "Is this what I thought I'd be when I was in kindergarten?"
That's livin' the scheme. That's what happens to guys (and girls) that keep hitting that snooze button.
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Get off the drugs. All of them. And then? Get an education and a job and get on with living a real life. This versus the imitation of one he's currently "living" now. This goes for a lot of so-called "bodybuilders" out there. Like Aaron Clark.
They won't. The FARCE is too strong in them. There's a real difference in living the dream like Arnold has done and livin' the scheme like the rest of them do.
These dime a dozen walking wang-wagons wake up in a cheesy SchMoetel 6ex, surrounded by needles, vials and empty bottles of pills. Their anus sore from having some schmoe pound their sphincter or their dick covered in feces from them being the pitcher instead of the catcher and you'd think they would look in the mirror and say, "Is this what I thought I'd be when I was in kindergarten?"
That's livin' the scheme. That's what happens to guys (and girls) that keep hitting that snooze button.
'livin' the scheme', that's a funny expression ;D
Not going to defend him, but do you really believe that having a corporate job contributes to someone's well-being? Sure, in your imagination every BBer does g4p ::)
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'livin' the scheme', that's a funny expression ;D
Not going to defend him, but do you really believe that having a corporate job contributes to someone's well-being? Sure, in your imagination every BBer does g4p ::)
I think that simply having a job contributes to not only oneself but society.
As for my imagination, well suffice to say I don't waste it on what BBs do in their spare time, LOL! You can simply look and see via the internet what a great many of them do for money. It's been that way for decades and while not all of them do it, many of them do. Why is that?
They are generally among the laziest of individuals. Look at Hollywood for insight. Quite often people wanting to be actors and actresses sell not only sell their soul but also their holes. I've got a couple of friends that have been through that wringer and it ain't pretty. Right now it's trendy for these "famous" people to bitch about it but I can assure you that they've been someone's "bitch" along the way to their "making it".
Bodybuilding requires even less talent than acting but the underlying theme is much the same and to deny that G4P exists is ridiculous. Not everyone does it and if you have the genetics to survive the relentless onslaught of drugs and can fund it yourself without having to resort to being the poster child for a "GoFuckMe" account, then good for you. And by "you" I mean "every man".
Not everyone that makes it sells themself to do so. Some people refuse to cross that line. Others just snort it and move on.
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Not hating on the guy but...
He is rellying in unhealthy megadosing bodybuilding as an emotional pilar, keeping him away from narcotics.
What will happen to him, when he gets older, and his body no longer tolerate the abuses of pro bodybuilding?
Back to heroin again? Booze?
Another Bill Petis in the making.
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Doing some posing in bad lighting and white as a ghost.
His legs are huge!
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Is he dead yet?
Stupid Canadian French tranny loving pussy
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Is he dead yet?
Stupid Canadian French tranny loving pussy
Agreed. Antoine is a moron.
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Agreed. Antoine is a moron.
STFU Scott.
Have you met him before? Spoken to him? Because you don't know him.
Do you even have a life outside this forum?
I come back to getbig once every 2 months, and sure as shit...theres Scott, being a little homo.
Get a life.
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STFU Scott.
Have you met him before? Spoken to him? Because you don't know him.
Do you even have a life outside this forum?
I come back to getbig once every 2 months, and sure as shit...theres Scott, being a little homo.
Get a life.
Hi Antoine!
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Doing some posing in bad lighting and white as a ghost.
His legs are huge!
Almost thought that was shopped, jesus.
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that chins getting out of hand.....
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STFU Scott.
Have you met him before? Spoken to him? Because you don't know him.
Do you even have a life outside this forum?
I come back to getbig once every 2 months, and sure as shit...theres Scott, being a little homo.
Get a life.
Oooooo...A real wordsmith. Yeah...Right. You are just one of those people that hate the truth. Go look in the mirror and see if you don't shrivel up at the sight of your picture of Dorian Gay, there champ.
Fucking typist.
As for my life outside of here, why in the name of all that is sane and good would I share that with a sad sack of shit such as yourself? What's your life like? Given your blue stars...
Pins and needles and pills, oh my! Schmoedowns? WTF. I don't know you well enough to dislike you but I suppose you're gonna try anyway, huh? ;D
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that chins getting out of hand.....
Larger chin (and swollen nose) at nearly 280.
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Larger chin (and swollen nose) at nearly 280.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465752.0;attach=758075)
Sheesh! His eyes couldn't be any closer set if he were an inbred pig! Oh wait...Yeah...He is an inbred pig.
No. Really. Just look at how not so far apart those piggy eyes are. What are they, maybe two inches apart and that being from the outer edges? He's so stupid he could spend a year in space and return without any DNA.
This is exactly what is wrong with "modern" bodybuilding.
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Antoine Vaillant Biceps and Triceps
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Let us know when there's a video about him overdosing.
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Let us know when there's a video about him overdosing.
Calm down, it's just someone on the intelwebz
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Calm down, it's just someone on the intelwebz
I am calm. ;) ;D I just find this sort of worthless shitbag to be nearly as repulsive as SF1900 and just as worthy of contracting Coleman's Syndrome. I look forward to reading of their succumbing to some rare congenital disease that has affected their fambly tree since the first member lost their prehensile tail and fell off only to be eaten by a giant dung beetle.
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He doesn't look anywhere near 280 to me? ???
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Sheesh! His eyes couldn't be any closer set if he were an inbred pig! Oh wait...Yeah...He is an inbred pig.
No. Really. Just look at how not so far apart those piggy eyes are. What are they, maybe two inches apart and that being from the outer edges? He's so stupid he could spend a year in space and return without any DNA.
This is exactly what is wrong with "modern" bodybuilding.
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;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465752.0;attach=758290)
Dude's about 1.25" to 1.5" away from being a cyclops/Uniclops. What a maroooooooon! ;D
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Dude's about 1.25" to 1.5" away from being a cyclops/Uniclops. What a maroooooooon! ;D
Scott, you Sir relentlessly amuse me. Cold blooded, Orson Welles style ;D
(https://s19.postimg.org/57629868j/B4r_XRFR.gif]https://s19.postimg.org/57629868j/B4r_XRFR.gif)
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Let us know when there's a video about him overdosing.
Shut up. Pussy.
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Shut up. Pussy.
Such wordsmith. Or is that cocksmith? Run away, child of idiocy, lest I foil you with a wit unmatched here save for a few good souls and you not being among their numbers. Oh wait...Allow me to dumb it down just for you...
Go intercourse yourself, manlette. You're over your head in the shallow end of the pool of genes.
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Such wordsmith. Or is that cocksmith? Run away, child of idiocy, lest I foil you with a wit unmatched here save for a few good souls and you not being among their numbers. Oh wait...Allow me to dumb it down just for you...
Go intercourse yourself, manlette. You're over your head in the shallow end of the pool of genes.
Shut up. Pussy.
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Shut up. Pussy.
*SNICKER*
A silicon simian with a keyboard. Just like a "modern" day hoMohammed trying hard to knock out another Queeron. FTN.
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I see white towels, arabs and "private viewings" in Antoine's future. (thread title changed for accuracy)
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Antoine Vaillant CONTEST PREP CHRONICLES : EP 1
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Looks good.
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Antoine Vaillant CONTEST PREP CHRONICLES : EP 1
Don't like the two tank top look. Very homo.
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Looks good.
Better than I expected, but his chest and back are lacking
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Antoine Vaillant CONTEST PREP CHRONICLES EP3 : AB CONTROL & POSING
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LOL!, "Prep Chronicles"?! Ep 1,2 & 3? What a fooking maroon...
Hardest jerking man in Schmoe Business.
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LOL!, "Prep Chronicles"?! Ep 1,2 & 3? What a fooking maroon...
Hardest jerking man in Schmoe Business.
He installed special posing lighting in his living room or whatever it is. That's true schmo dedication and commitment. :D
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He installed special posing lighting in his living room or whatever it is. That's true schmo dedication and commitment. :D
LOL! ;D
Antoine Vaillant, Master of Schmoe 'N' Tell. The dude's a true devotee of his craft. Probably gives the schmoes a real deal on "Fap Dances". :-X :-X
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LOL! ;D
Antoine Vaillant, Master of Schmoe 'N' Tell. The dude's a true devotee of his craft. Probably gives the schmoes a real deal on "Fap Dances". :-X :-X
But remember, there's a schmoe in everyone of us. That's what brought us here! :-X ;D
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But remember, there's a schmoe in everyone of us. That's what brought us here! :-X ;D
True and Antoine is looking shmoetastic! ;D
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He looks good in the gym but strangely soft and small on stage.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB63188.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/JEB_8399_TJMCXHNASM.jpg)
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True and Antoine is looking shmoetastic! ;D
Yes especially at 10:00 to 10:15 with that laugh of his indicating he knows his audience.
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He looks good in the gym but strangely soft and small on stage.
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/JEB_8399_TJMCXHNASM.jpg)
Facially, he's looking very tbombzish in this photo. As though he were looking for his bunny suit.
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He looks good in the gym but strangely soft and small on stage.
He's competing soon so we will see if he is shmoetastic.
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He looks good in the gym but strangely soft and small on stage.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB63188.jpg)
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/JEB_8399_TJMCXHNASM.jpg)
wow he has like back development of a natty
makes him look extremly bottom heavy
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wow he has like back development of a natty
makes him look extremly bottom heavy
I was at this show. It was a NY Pro.
There are Natties with better backs and far better condition.
John Meadows prepped him for that show. So either Antoine didn't do his work or Mountain Dog Shit training system ain't all that special.
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I was at this show. It was a NY Pro.
There are Natties with better backs and far better condition.
John Meadows prepped him for that show. So either Antoine didn't do his work or Mountain Dog Shit training system ain't all that special.
Mountain Dog may be a solid trainer but he looks like a Palumbo-y POS when on stage himself.
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Mountain Dog may be a solid trainer but he looks like a Palumbo-y POS when on stage himself.
I saw him compete at the Toronto Pro, the same year he competed in the Arnold. He was the leanest and driest on state by far. Looked like a damn block of granite. His shape hurts him a lot on stage, but the guy knows how to get in shape, for sure. I think he got screwed in that show, he should have been a couple places higher. But I think, for him, the most important thing is just getting up on a pro stage and competing with the best after almost dying a few years ago.
I'm a huge fan of John, but I haven't seen any pro he's gotten ready that looked phenomenal. Maybe he relies on training too much? As bad as it sounds, maybe he's not pumping enough drugs into his guys to be competitive...? I mean, I get that he may be counselling them to be healthier and all that, but healthier doesn't make you a better pro bodybuilder. And if you're going for health, then quit the competitive part of this "sport" and train for health/to look good on a beach.
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I was at this show. It was a NY Pro.
There are Natties with better backs and far better condition.
John Meadows prepped him for that show. So either Antoine didn't do his work or Mountain Dog Shit training system ain't all that special.
antoine had an abscess at this show, thats why he is wearing the "diaper" trunks...
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Looking pretty good, esp that side chest
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Looking pretty good, esp that side chest
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32323029_1699572480096260_3999244997940477952_n.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=3211bccd92d8b9c3911acf23da3a570a&oe=5B87234B)
Agree.
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Great delts
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Great delts
Too bad they overpower his chest in certain poses..
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Agree.
Lost(?) his girlfriend during his prep, that sucks...
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Lost(?) his girlfriend during his prep, that sucks...
Not a good thing to happen during prep and recovery. :-\
Looks good here. Huge quads.
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He's getting it back but he's still a few steps away from pro size. Almost wonder if he would do better with classic physique since he has really good lines.
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He's getting it back but he's still a few steps away from pro size. Almost wonder if he would do better with classic physique since he has really good lines.
Agree about size and classic. I think he really just wants to come in best condition he has ever had.
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He's getting it back but he's still a few steps away from pro size. Almost wonder if he would do better with classic physique since he has really good lines.
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Mongloid face
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What I don't get is how can you be a recovering addict, but steroids are ok? I think he goes to meetings or has a sponsor, I wonder what their take is on PED'S.
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Not a good thing to happen during prep and recovery. :-\
Looks good here. Huge quads.
one reason i date a figure girl - she gets prep - hell she diets harder than i do
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one reason i date a figure girl - she gets prep - hell she diets harder than i do
His girlfriend is a nightclub Dj, probably not the best choice for a drug addict.
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Agree about size and classic. I think he really just wants to come in best condition he has ever had.
yes - get smaller (10-15 lbs) do classic
dude is ripped as shit
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yes - get smaller (10-15 lbs) do classic
dude is ripped as shit
And half as smart. Maybe.
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yes - get smaller (10-15 lbs) do classic
dude is ripped as shit
Maybe classic if he lowers the dose just a bit. ;)
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What I don't get is how can you be a recovering addict, but steroids are ok? I think he goes to meetings or has a sponsor, I wonder what their take is on PED'S.
i get what you mean but 2 different kettle of fish PED and rec drugs
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Legs are looking pretty sick!
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i get what you mean but 2 different kettle of fish PED and rec drugs
Yup
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What I don't get is how can you be a recovering addict, but steroids are ok? I think he goes to meetings or has a sponsor, I wonder what their take is on PED'S.
The people in AA/NA are fucking ignorant as can be when it comes to PEDs. They think "a drug is a drug" and you cannot get it through their dumb skulls the difference.keep in mind mostnofnthem are longtime skinny drunks and junkies who've never playedna sport so they understand nothing even when it comes to creatine and OTC supps. You gotta explain to thesenself-righteous fucks It's fucken hormones. Like telling a woman she can no longer use birth control. Just had this subject come up, saying I'd "never attain any sorta long term sobriety if i kept using even just testosterone", coming from a guy with not even a year sobriety, who hasn't even completed all 12 steps (not that those steps mean shit to me) and is already "sponsoring" people s*** like that isn't rare)& i have to remind them i had roughly 14 fucken years clean,& roughly 12yrs sober of alcohol (I didn't sit and dwele on it and hardly ever crossed my mind) while being around it nearly daily for a large portion of those 12/14yrs... AA people tend to "take other people's inventory" while preaching about "not taking other people's inventory". AA isn't the only game in town.
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The people in AA/NA are fucking ignorant as can be when it comes to PEDs. They think "a drug is a drug" and you cannot get it through their dumb skulls the difference.keep in mind mostnofnthem are longtime skinny drunks and junkies who've never playedna sport so they understand nothing even when it comes to creatine and OTC supps. You gotta explain to thesenself-righteous fucks It's fucken hormones. Like telling a woman she can no longer use birth control. Just had this subject come up, saying I'd "never attain any sorta long term sobriety if i kept using even just testosterone", coming from a guy with not even a year sobriety, who hasn't even completed all 12 steps (not that those steps mean shit to me) and is already "sponsoring" people s*** like that isn't rare)& i have to remind them i had roughly 14 fucken years clean,& roughly 12yrs sober of alcohol (I didn't sit and dwele on it and hardly ever crossed my mind) while being around it nearly daily for a large portion of those 12/14yrs... AA people tend to "take other people's inventory" while preaching about "not taking other people's inventory". AA isn't the only game in town.
one of the many reasons I left it in the new year after being around it since 91. What I found disturbing as well is this trend of "sponsors" and other know nothings manipulating people to get off ALL thier meds including some stuff like blood pressure heart etc.
I got sucked into it through family and work in my twenties, so everytime a year or 3 would pass I would drink and because of the whole "oh its progressive and you will die mentality" I would go all fucking out and turn things to shit quick because my attitude was "fuck it" I have to go back to this bullshit again in the rooms.
There are dozens of alternatives, challenge is the courts, schools ans places of employment have been brainwashed into thinking this is the only way they can get the monkeys to obey and still perform tricks.
Easy way to tell someone has been sucked into the "program" too much is when they have to base every tiny decision they make in life down to how it affects sobriety.
And taking advice from most of these people is akin to going to some stranger to ask life advice because he has not had a cigarette in 5 years
I rank the whole thing up there just under the Church of scientology
In my case when I was a regular and active in meetings(which is broken up into several stints of being clean for 1-3 1/2 years at a time over 27 years, if I was away from a regular meeting or 2 I would hear from at least 25 out of the 50 phone numbers I have in my phone.
When I started questioning things lightly to now 5 months later, I have heard from exactly 3 people, 2 of whom were just diggng for what was going on so they could run around and gossip about it.
so yeah, my life has been improving in ways it has not since 91 just because of the decision I made to de program and leave that fucking cult
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one of the many reasons I left it in the new year after being around it since 91. What I found disturbing as well is this trend of "sponsors" and other know nothings manipulating people to get off ALL thier meds including some stuff like blood pressure heart etc.
I got sucked into it through family and work in my twenties, so everytime a year or 3 would pass I would drink and because of the whole "oh its progressive and you will die mentality" I would go all fucking out and turn things to shit quick because my attitude was "fuck it" I have to go back to this bullshit again in the rooms.
There are dozens of alternatives, challenge is the courts, schools ans places of employment have been brainwashed into thinking this is the only way they can get the monkeys to obey and still perform tricks.
Easy way to tell someone has been sucked into the "program" too much is when they have to base every tiny decision they make in life down to how it affects sobriety.
And taking advice from most of these people is akin to going to some stranger to ask life advice because he has not had a cigarette in 5 years
I rank the whole thing up there just under the Church of scientology
In my case when I was a regular and active in meetings(which is broken up into several stints of being clean for 1-3 1/2 years at a time over 27 years, if I was away from a regular meeting or 2 I would hear from at least 25 out of the 50 phone numbers I have in my phone.
When I started questioning things lightly to now 5 months later, I have heard from exactly 3 people, 2 of whom were just diggng for what was going on so they could run around and gossip about it.
so yeah, my life has been improving in ways it has not since 91 just because of the decision I made to de program and leave that fucking cult
Well to touch on this, don't they "allow" certain types in AA, to smoke cigarettes, knowing that it's an outlet for their impulse (that might otherwise lead to drug use) ?
I would suppose juice is the same thing. Probably not the healthiest thing to use (and abuse) , just like cigarettes. But if you have a 1-track mind and can focus only on that outlet, and not have it be a gateway to other things, than why not?!
I've never been an addict before, and I know the temptations of recreational drugs, but I almost feel like the times I was ever on gear, that I wanted to make the most of it so I'd be eating a LOT healthier during that time. Doing consistent cardio. Not drinking / smoking or taking wtv pills.
I think like you said, a lot of the misconception is that the general idea of "a drug is a drug" applies to this topic, but that's wrong because testosterone is not a drug.
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I've never been an addict before, and I know the temptations of recreational drugs, but I almost feel like the times I was ever on gear, that I wanted to make the most of it so I'd be eating a LOT healthier during that time. Doing consistent cardio. Not drinking / smoking or taking wtv pills.
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You hit the nail on the head of something I’ve wondered about. I wish I had a know-it-all medical analyst inside my body who could tell me whether the negative aspects of giving my body more testosterone (and other things) than it wants is more than offset (or not offset) by the intensive cardio along with low fat low sodium diet during contest prep (for example, conflicting impact on heart ventricles, plaque, blood pressure, etc?). I hate to convince myself that I am doing myself any favors if I am not, but I generally feel healthy and energized during contest prep.
By the way, AA is flooded with caffeine and nicotine. It is not the mission to quit these two, and it definitely is not the mission to discontinue standard medications (or even PEDs in my view). Alcohol and recreational drugs only as I understand it.
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Good q&a
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Good q&a
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Old school conditioning.
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He should consider switching to the classic physique class
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He should consider switching to the classic physique class
Definitely has classic lines. He's been a depleted 245-247 so making 230 (if 6ft) would be tough but not impossible. Not sure where he will be once fully carbed up.
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Definitely has classic lines. He's been a depleted 245-247 so making 230 (if 6ft) would be tough but not impossible. Not sure where he will be once fully carbed up.
That is a lot of muscle to give up. It did work well for Regan Grimes
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Antoine Vaillant ONTEST PREP CHRONICLES EP 24 : 3 DAYS OUT: DAY IN THE LIFE
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Antoine Vaillant ONTEST PREP CHRONICLES EP 24 : 3 DAYS OUT: DAY IN THE LIFE
Hey Gregzs I've been picking up your slack. ;)
48hrs out cannonball delts!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bjc4agHhaty/?hl=en&taken-by=antoinev87
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Rooting for him this weekend!
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Rooting for him this weekend!
He's shown nothing but appreciation for all those who have supported and helped him..class act.
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Rooting for him this weekend!
X2!
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X2!
4th place is a great accomplishment and he should be elated except for the fact that he got fucked. He was the most complete bodybuilder on the stage.
Depending on what you like, he should have been 1st to Akim's 2nd or vice versa.
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1. Akim
2. Antoine
3. WTF with rewarding those quads ???
Toronto used to be credible judging no ?
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1. Akim
2. Antoine
3. WTF with rewarding those quads ???
Toronto used to be credible judging no ?
Cedric got a gift and the rest is more of the same bs.
Shredded for photo shoot.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjmvzPShbIo/?hl=en&taken-by=antoinev87
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4th place is a great accomplishment and he should be elated except for the fact that he got fucked. He was the most complete bodybuilder on the stage.
Depending on what you like, he should have been 1st to Akim's 2nd or vice versa.
Juan & Akim looked great, but Ced's 3rd placing was nothing but a gift :-\
Conditioning wise, Ant smoked all of them.
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If this dude can gain some size and still keep his conditioning crisp, he can do really well
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Juan & Akim looked great, but Ced's 3rd placing was nothing but a gift :-\
Conditioning wise, Ant smoked all of them.
Akim was about 246/48 and looked his best ever.
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Juan & Akim looked great, but Ced's 3rd placing was nothing but a gift :-\
Conditioning wise, Ant smoked all of them.
Disagree on Juan, but Akim was his best ever. He really needs to re-evaluate his back situation. All that heavy lifting while making his lats look pretty good from the front and they are thick, don't look so good from the back. Needs to back off on the heavy deads and rows and start carving out more detail. Just my opinion.
Juan also needs to stop the fucking ego lifting. Upper body is good from the front and sides but his back sucks as do his thighs. Hams are pretty good. Needs to stop squatting and going to hacks and sissy squats.
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one of the many reasons I left it in the new year after being around it since 91. What I found disturbing as well is this trend of "sponsors" and other know nothings manipulating people to get off ALL thier meds including some stuff like blood pressure heart etc.
I got sucked into it through family and work in my twenties, so everytime a year or 3 would pass I would drink and because of the whole "oh its progressive and you will die mentality" I would go all fucking out and turn things to shit quick because my attitude was "fuck it" I have to go back to this bullshit again in the rooms.
There are dozens of alternatives, challenge is the courts, schools ans places of employment have been brainwashed into thinking this is the only way they can get the monkeys to obey and still perform tricks.
Easy way to tell someone has been sucked into the "program" too much is when they have to base every tiny decision they make in life down to how it affects sobriety.
And taking advice from most of these people is akin to going to some stranger to ask life advice because he has not had a cigarette in 5 years
I rank the whole thing up there just under the Church of scientology
In my case when I was a regular and active in meetings(which is broken up into several stints of being clean for 1-3 1/2 years at a time over 27 years, if I was away from a regular meeting or 2 I would hear from at least 25 out of the 50 phone numbers I have in my phone.
When I started questioning things lightly to now 5 months later, I have heard from exactly 3 people, 2 of whom were just diggng for what was going on so they could run around and gossip about it.
so yeah, my life has been improving in ways it has not since 91 just because of the decision I made to de program and leave that fucking cult
I hate AA/NA...
1% follow through all the 12 steps! 1%!
That shows you right there it doesnt work.
Addiction is a neurological problem that cant be cured with talking. You need the right type of medication for your type of addiction. That combined with theraphy will make a great difference.
But to think all medications are bad for you is just retarded.
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:)
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:)
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His IG videos are pretty funny. :D
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His IG videos are pretty funny. :D
Haha yeah, I saw his story line on FB which is linked to his IG
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ANTOINE VAILLANT & KHALED : DUMBELL PRESS AND POSING UPDATE
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ANTOINE VAILLANT & KHALED : DUMBELL PRESS AND POSING UPDATE
Like watching paint dry...
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Easy way to tell someone has been sucked into the "program" too much is when they have to base every tiny decision they make in life down to how it affects sobriety.
And taking advice from most of these people is akin to going to some stranger to ask life advice because he has not had a cigarette in 5 years
I rank the whole thing up there just under the Church of scientology
Very good post. AA and other sobriety programs are all cults. The people who run these programs know addicts are mentally weak and they prey off them... just like preachers you see on Sunday morning tv.
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I hate AA/NA...
1% follow through all the 12 steps! 1%!
That shows you right there it doesnt work.
Addiction is a neurological problem that cant be cured with talking. You need the right type of medication for your type of addiction. That combined with theraphy will make a great difference.
But to think all medications are bad for you is just retarded.
If 1% follow all 12 steps then maybe thats why it isnt working.
In my experience, just as u said...not many people really commit themselves to finish the steps. But the ones that do have a far higher success rate than any type of therapy/drug that ive ever seen.
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Dead pool 2019.
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Dead pool 2019.
I have him in the #1 position.
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He doesn't look well. He's carrying way too much mass and he sounds as if he can only get out a few words before he has to breath. I'll never understand why guys chase the 300 pound mark.
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within the first 2 minutes "broke on food stamps"
the modern day open IFBB pro or top level NPC amt guys live a life similar to that of a stand up comedian. it is brutal -
far cry from the 1950s - 1980s bbers who seemed to live a pretty good life esp the ones in so cal.
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263 lbs
AVP EP5 : 7.5 weeks out some training and posing
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Dead Pool 2019/2020. Terminally stupid.
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within the first 2 minutes "broke on food stamps"
the modern day open IFBB pro or top level NPC amt guys live a life similar to that of a stand up comedian. it is brutal -
far cry from the 1950s - 1980s bbers who seemed to live a pretty good life esp the ones in so cal.
Because they had real jobs and bodybuilding was just a hobby.
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Do you think we will get to see him shrivel like AIDS victim because he gets sick from a "hereditary" disease, or will he just die on the spot Piana style?
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Do you think we will get to see him shrivel like AIDS victim because he gets sick from a "hereditary" disease, or will he just die on the spot Piana style?
Brutal
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263 lbs
AVP EP5 : 7.5 weeks out some training and posing
He's got the hangdanger of a prime Levrone. "Whoooooooooooooosh!"
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New gym opening soon.
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AVP EP7 : First workout at Pure Muscle & Fitness.... LEGS
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Posing six weeks out 15:50
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Bicep tear. :-[
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Damn, sorry to see that. Was looking forward to seeing how he did at The Toronto Pro after doing so well last year. Hopefully not too bad a tear and it doesn't derail him too much.
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Damn, sorry to see that. Was looking forward to seeing how he did at The Toronto Pro after doing so well last year. Hopefully not too bad a tear and it doesn't derail him too much.
Looks like a full rupture but hard to be sure without a scan.
He was going to do NY too.
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he needs to be watched closely by the people around who actually care about him and not the bodybuilder. with his past addiction issues dealing with this could cause a relapse.
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Bicep tear. :-[
Really awful, you hate to see someone go through so much then hit a major setback right before the payoff.
But if it heals well and he maintains his current attitude/composure, I think this puts him in the running for a pro win in 2020. He’ll be well-rested and might be able to add the 5-10lbs he’s been missing.
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Really awful, you hate to see someone go through so much then hit a major setback right before the payoff.
But if it heals well and he maintains his current attitude/composure, I think this puts him in the running for a pro win in 2020. He’ll be well-rested and might be able to add the 5-10lbs he’s been missing.
Agree it totally sucks.
He's been hovering between 257 and 260 shredded so he really could have done some damage this year. If it's a complete rupture he should have it fixed.
Slingbladerman should bring him to Cally to have Calum's doc fix it. I won't hold my breath.
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This sucks for him. Hopefully, he doesn't let it get the best of him. He was looking amazing and was/is a true feel good story.
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This sucks for him. Hopefully, he doesn't let it get the best of him. He was looking amazing and was/is a true feel good story.
MRI done and surgery scheduled.
Has a great support system which is key.
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Torn biceps MRI results : what the doc has to say
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he needs to be watched closely by the people around who actually care about him and not the bodybuilder. with his past addiction issues dealing with this could cause a relapse.
Agreed. Though relatively speaking, coke is easy to get over.
He needs to ditch his friends that use. This is his health - which I fear for - and life we're talking about.
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His hair really took a massive hit.
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His hair really took a massive hit.
Around 2012.
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Around 2012.
good looking dude in pic #2
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Do we have evidence that Antoine met fellow Montreal'er Georges St-Pierre?
On Bro Jogan's podcast, GSP mentioned being friends with bodybuilders whose bodies were messed up. Does anyone know which BB he was referring to?
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Do we have evidence that Antoine met fellow Montreal'er Georges St-Pierre.
On Bro Johan's podcast, GSP mentioned being friends with bodybuilders whose bodies were messed up. Does anyone know which BB he was referring to?
probably not Antoine because he said this was his first serious injury.
Im guessing MMA fighters has more injuries than bodybuilders to be honest. Maybe not muscle tears but joint damage and ligament tears.. + they get brain damage.
so whats the point of potentially making alot of money but then at the end of your career you're not even yourself anymore with brain damage
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probably not Antoine because he said this was his first serious injury.
Im guessing MMA fighters has more injuries than bodybuilders to be honest. Maybe not muscle tears but joint damage and ligament tears.. + they get brain damage.
so whats the point of potentially making alot of money but then at the end of your career you're not even yourself anymore with brain damage
Great post. Those aspiring to be either bodybuilders or MMA fighters should be made aware of these risks.
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Sure he will bounce back from this. He has already proven that he is resilient and can overcome mental and physical challenges so I don't see this derailing him too much. I hope it doesn't as he seems like a decent dude and I wish him well.
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Sure he will bounce back from this. He has already proven that he is resilient and can overcome mental and physical challenges so I don't see this derailing him too much. I hope it doesn't as he seems like a decent dude and I wish him well.
It will just take time.
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He’ll be better served by quitting bodybuilding and getting a job.
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How did he tear his bicep?
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How did he tear his bicep?
no gym lifting, but lifting some heavy object in an akward position.
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no gym lifting, but lifting some heavy object in an akward position.
That’s because he lacks functional strength.
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That’s because he lacks functional strength.
LMFAO
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That’s because he lacks functional strength.
he needs to do crossfit
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He’ll be better served by quitting bodybuilding and getting a job.
Good point. So many of these guys have no backup plan and even if you're healthy it will come to an end.
So many pimping CBD oil now.
Frankie is getting old
https://www.instagram.com/frank_mcgrath78/
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LMFAO
;D ;D
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he needs to do crossfit
He needs to do a few more burpees.
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He’ll be better served by quitting bodybuilding and getting a job.
Bodybuilders are in general, too lazy to actually get a job where they have to work at anything more strenuous than getting buttfucked or smoking some schmoe's wang. I think they call this being an "artist's model".
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Bodybuilders are in general, too lazy to actually get a job where they have to work at anything more strenuous than getting buttfucked or smoking some schmoe's wang. I think they call this being an "artist's model".
Truth! But what the heck are people like him gonna do in like, just ten years. He’s not that young anymore!
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Truth! But what the heck are people like him gonna do in like, just ten years. He’s not that young anymore!
Claim to have "Nickel-Cell Anemia" (the caucasional version) and ax his fans to (s)express their love for him via online schmoenation-donations? He can always be a cam-star as a bum-cumster for schmoes. These dolts do not plan for a future because they live for the schmoement.
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He's French Canadian and loaded with androgens. Out of the current crop of guys coming up he's probably the healthiest by far. He loads up on tons of PEDs, but he minds his cardiovascular health and can still do flip tricks and gainers and shit. Most bodybuilders can't walk up a single flight of stairs without getting heart palpitations and breaking into a full sweat.
I heard he's pretty smart in the gym too. If he gets an injury he'll baby it and train intelligently. Doesn't bulk up to massive proportions and isn't a bad guy in real life. A few friends I know train with him and his crew and they all look great. They've got a solid scene over there, but the one super disturbing thing is that I have heard that they're all into trannies and all that. Again, they're French Canadian. They're a weird breed.
At least French Canadians want nothing to do with divershitty. Quebec City is one of the safest major cities in North America. It is 95% French/White, and had two murders in 2015, with a population just over 800,000. Only 40,000 of them are "diverse".
Quebec just elected a autonomous French Canadian party that wants NOTHING to do with "diversity".
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At least French Canadians want nothing to do with divershitty. Quebec City is one of the safest major cities in North America. It is 95% French/White, and had two murders in 2015, with a population just over 800,000. Only 40,000 of them are "diverse".
Quebec just elected a autonomous French Canadian party that wants NOTHING to do with "diversity".
i had no idea french canadians were that way
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i had no idea french canadians were that way
Yep. Check the ideology and policies section:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_Avenir_Qu%C3%A9bec
I think it's psychological - the result of being a Francophone minority in an Anglophone country, and Anglophone continent.
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He looks good in the gym but strangely soft and small on stage.
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_PB63188.jpg)
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looks terrible
way over dieted and flat
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I fear for his health.
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He really is retarded. Live to pose, pose to live. IOL.
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He really is retarded. Live to pose, pose to live. IOL.
Well he has this long thread to look back on.
Hell of an achievement! :D
Othstrong posted a lot in it.
Although his is over 100!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=485328.2575
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Seriously, this French Canadian bastard should just go away already
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Truth! But what the heck are people like him gonna do in like, just ten years. He’s not that young anymore!
Online training. You can make pretty good money doing it if you have a following like Vaillant and are social media savvy
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Within 10 years, what will his life be like?
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It was all good 5 or so years ago.
he was travelling the world, surrounded by hot woman, and had a young healthy body with a relatively full head of hair.
now he's probably mid 30s with nothing to show for it.
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Just training one side ??? ???
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Six years on and im still so happy for him
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I worked out with 2 of my brothers!
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I worked out with 2 of my brothers!
Mensa level IQ. I am amazed this thing is still alive. He will ultimately wind up working at a Pinocchio's Pizza or selling his balloon knot in a Fap-Chat room. Live to pose. Pose to live. FTN.
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My true off season (mass) begins!
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I worry about Antoine's health:
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I worry about Antoine's health:
Isn't he into trannies and G4P?
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Very heavy atm....
See if any of this weight actually translates to the stage, need some decent tall white guys back on stage...
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Very heavy atm....
See if any of this weight actually translates to the stage, need some decent tall white guys back on stage...
His max weight was 330-lb at just under six feet tall. I wish he would put it away and find work in Quebec somewhere helping people learn English or something.
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Huge ,,,that’s a lot shit to put into your body to gain that kind of size
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Huge ,,,that’s a lot shit to put into your body to gain that kind of size
Yea. G4P must be paying off.
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Huge ,,,that’s a lot shit to put into your body to gain that kind of size
Great post.
I fear for his health.
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Wonder why he left redcon1? Guy was given a chance after drugs ruined him. Then he got the wrath, aka mc grizzly a job with redcon1, now he has bounced.
Singerman runs a tight ship
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Wonder why he left redcon1? Guy was given a chance after drugs ruined him. Then he got the wrath, aka mc grizzly a job with redcon1, now he has bounced.
Singerman runs a tight ship
Or...
We are starting our own supplement company!
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Huge ,,,that’s a lot shit to put into your body to gain that kind of size
Gotta be coming up on ten grams gear imo.
And all the constant food, it would be very shitty way to live....
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Supplement company behind the scenes
Brandon Harding: I’VE ACCIDENTALLY LOST WEIGHT | LEAVING MY COACH...
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Wonder why he left redcon1? Guy was given a chance after drugs ruined him. Then he got the wrath, aka mc grizzly a job with redcon1, now he has bounced.
Singerman runs a tight ship
He was DROPPED by REDCON1, just like ANIMAL and UNIVERSAL DROPPED HIM FOR THE SAME REASON... the guy has a LOT of DEMONS he has to deal with and it truly is a shame/sad.
Great genetics, killer calves, great proportions, but GAY LIFESTYLE and ENDLESS DRUGS got him dropped from REDCON1, UNIVERSAL and ANIMAL...
He was interviewed recently about not being with REDCON1 any more and he made it seem as though they parted mutually, but that was not the case.
He has gone through REHAB 4+ times and is still SPIRALING... Don't be surprised if you hear him overdose, back in rehab again or DEAD soon.
When Buendia outed him last year, I thought Buendia was so wrong for doing that, as it looked like a personal attack on Antoine, but the truth soon showed itself on his YOUTUBE and INSTAGRAM accounts with admissions to going into parks at 3, 4, 5 AM to engage in homosexual oral/anal sex. Pictures/videos of him kissing other guys were posted online, and him being busted in a gay sex club in Montreal by the police when one of his gay friends tripped out on whatever drug he was using and attacked Antoine and someone called the cops... and he is acting like he has not a care in the world.
Dave Palumbo a few years ago interviewed him about his drug problem and said to him he needs to get his act together as he had lost all of his sponsors and without them was in no way going to succeed in BBing.
Antoine assured he was better and focused and had the help of friends, family and relatives.
A recent Instagram STORIES post of his (which I wish I knew how to save it) he openly says "HE IS 10 PERCENT GAY AND THAT WOULD BE 90 PERCENT ACCURATE" before he bursts into a silly uncontrolled laugh.
Last time I checked if a woman said she was 5 percent pregnant... THAT MEANS SHE IS PREGNANT as their is no such thing as 5 percent pregnant... SHE EITHER IS OR ISN'T!!
To me he has given himself a DEATH BLOW as RYDERWEAR is the only sponsor he has now and if they pull out based on his behavior and posts, which could make them look bad, HE IS DONE. Yes there are gay athletes, but they respect the sport, their sponsors and their fellow athlete... Antoine doesn't..
I absolutely can not stand when a person's sexual activity/lifestyle RULES THEIR LIFE/MIND!!!
He is now with PURE MUSCLE and FITNESS... a gym owned by two of his GAY friends (whom he lives in their house) and most of... if not all of the staff is gay/transgender
Gym looks nice, lots and lots of equipment, LOTS OF MONEY WENT INTO IT... Hope it succeeds as Antoine trains there and with no job, what will he do if it doesn't survive?
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Yea. G4P must be paying off.
Truly is...
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Around 2012.
Looks like a young MEL GIBSON in the bottom picture
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10% gay means he's bi. Nothing wrong with that.
In the era of #MeToo bullshit politics affecting straight relationships, I wish I was 10% gay. I may be afraid of STDs [although only gay bottoms need to fear this more than straight men], but I would gladly date a man if I was bi.
Because #MeToo and unfairness to men in family courts [although this stopped in Canada in 2007] causing a man to light himself on fire alive in front of one of them, has really hurt hetero relationships.
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wasn't he into trannies?
shows that tranny lovin is a gateway to going full gay.
damn dime pieces turning fellas out :(
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10% gay means he's bi. Nothing wrong with that.
In the era of #MeToo bullshit politics affecting straight relationships, I wish I was 10% gay. I may be afraid of STDs [although only gay bottoms need to fear this more than straight men], but I would gladly date a man if I was bi.
Because #MeToo and unfairness to men in family courts [although this stopped in Canada in 2007] causing a man to light himself on fire alive in front of one of them, has really hurt hetero relationships.
Sorry Matt... NOT BUYING IT
People who are 100 percent and exclusively GAY say they're BI-SEX as a cover, because they know people are more inclined to accept them than if they openly said they are JUST GAY.
For someone to admit to engaging in sex in public parks and bathrooms late night (wee hours of the morning) is DISTURBING to say the least and damning to their image and image of their sponsors/career...
And as I said earlier...given all of the rest of his admissions on his posts on youtube, instagram etc of being gay, of having sex with MEN ONLY, of REDCON1, UNIVERSAL and ANIMAL all attempting to change his image by having him admit to having (NONEXISTENT) girlfriends and even having pictures of him kissing/appearing to have a relationship with a woman only for her to disappear as quickly as the photoshoot ended.... Antoine is getting himself in more trouble, being deemed NOT MARKETABLE and companies will drop him once and for all soon.... really sad when a person can not prioritize their life and their lusts destroy them/career/goals etc...
So far as his sexual preference... no one would be addressing it at all as it does not play a role in his or any BBers career/gains/goals etc... SO WHY THE HELL DOES ANTOINE KEEP MAKING IT A POINT OF REFERENCE IN EVERY POST/COMMENT?... It just informs how his sexual activity has commandeered his ENTIRE LIFE/MIND/CAREER....
He comes across as a funny guy in his posts, the Psychologist he saw during his substance abuse treatment informed him of his sexual lusts and perversions/problems, but Antoine refused to accept it... Now it has become VERY PUBLIC...
I don't in any way want to shoot him down as he has barely reached his goals, but the guy needs serious help... even his family/relatives turned away from him due to his lifestyle and choices, hence why I said don't be surprised if you see him CRASH and BURN soon and end up overdosing, back in rehab or dead...
Not something I wish on anyone
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Sorry Matt... NOT BUYING IT
People who are 100 percent and exclusively GAY say they're BI-SEX as a cover, because they know people are more inclined to accept them than if they openly said they are JUST GAY.
For someone to admit to engaging in sex in public parks and bathrooms late night (wee hours of the morning) is DISTURBING to say the least and damning to their image and image of their sponsors/career...
And as I said earlier...given all of the rest of his admissions on his posts on youtube, instagram etc of being gay, of having sex with MEN ONLY, of REDCON1, UNIVERSAL and ANIMAL all attempting to change his image by having him admit to having (NONEXISTENT) girlfriends and even having pictures of him kissing/appearing to have a relationship with a woman only for her to disappear as quickly as the photoshoot ended.... Antoine is getting himself in more trouble, being deemed NOT MARKETABLE and companies will drop him once and for all soon.... really sad when a person can not prioritize their life and their lusts destroy them/career/goals etc...
So far as his sexual preference... no one would be addressing it at all as it does not play a role in his or any BBers career/gains/goals etc... SO WHY THE HELL DOES ANTOINE KEEP MAKING IT A POINT OF REFERENCE IN EVERY POST/COMMENT?... It just informs how his sexual activity has commandeered his ENTIRE LIFE/MIND/CAREER....
He comes across as a funny guy in his posts, the Psychologist he saw during his substance abuse treatment informed him of his sexual lusts and perversions/problems, but Antoine refused to accept it... Now it has become VERY PUBLIC...
I don't in any way want to shoot him down as he has barely reached his goals, but the guy needs serious help... even his family/relatives turned away from him due to his lifestyle and choices, hence why I said don't be surprised if you see him CRASH and BURN soon and end up overdosing, back in rehab or dead...
Not something I wish on anyone
Where are you getting this from? I have never seen Antoine make one mention of being gay or having sex in parks, etc. Yeah, he has admitted to drug addiction and numerous rehabs but I thought he was clean now and had been for some time? He puts up regular content and seems very focused on his career and continuing to build his physique.
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Huge ,,,that’s a lot shit to put into your body to gain that kind of size
I think he started using INSULIN as the weight gain was tremendous (40 to 50 pounds) in a very short period of time.. and as you may have seen he has dropped over 40 pounds of weight in just about 30 days.... Started diet near Christmas and has lost that 40 pounds within one month
So all of the weight gained hasn't benefited him at all... I just wondered why he did it. He already had good size BEFORE the weight gain and only had to refine and shred.
Dangerous gaining and losing so much so fast
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Where are you getting this from? I have never seen Antoine make one mention of being gay or having sex in parks, etc. Yeah, he has admitted to drug addiction and numerous rehabs but I thought he was clean now and had been for some time? He puts up regular content and seems very focused on his career and continuing to build his physique.
Rascal you clearly are not looking at his YOUTUBE or INSTAGRAM STORIES page... It really is DISTURBING to hear his constant dick/penis references and not considering he is a representative of a sport/company/manager.
Notice in this YT video of him getting a massage from an equally CREEPY massage therapist, who says he wants to LICK HIM (@4:15 mark), because Antoine smells like Coconuts... WTF?
Then again at in this video at the @4:40 Antoine starts talking about his GAY MALE STRIPPER FRIEND (Oh boy...here we go again) who sends him to a massage therapist who grabs his dick and begins moving it to different places while getting a massage.... seriously Antoine?... Again any STRAIGHT man would not tolerate anything like that
Same video at 10:12 seconds he addresses sucking his own dick for no reason what so ever
Another video (@ 1:25 mark) where for no reason he starts talking about a UFC fighters DICK... And how the opposing fighter should twist his dick...Seriously?
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Here Antoine talks about going to a PRIVATE GAY RAVE PARTY IN MONTREAL... where his drug consumption began getting out of control, hanging out with out of control people:Criminals, Druggies, etc... Be aware that when he says "GIRLS" that is code word for GAY MEN
There are lots of other vids and instagram stories (unfortunaely because i did not knwo how to save them, they have disappeared, he became VERY GRAPHIC with his gay life.
UPDATE
Here is another where again he gets into talking about dick, gay lifestyle and even starts that FINGER SNAP that gay men do to draw attention to something or say they are fierce. Starts @ 8:11 mark to 10:10 mark. No straight man would do/talk about such things as any man is concerned about his image. Notice also how the whole staff of Pure Muscle HAPPILY engages in the gay conversation that benefits nothing in the workout ... you'll never find straight men doing this.
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If you type in "Antoine Vaillant Gay" in google it exposes even more
This guy really needs to get help so he can truly get better... I am not hating, but I am hating this making bodybuilding look like Sodom and Gomorrah
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SAMSON123 thanks for you reply and the links. Not that it matters but I wonder if perhaps he is just bi-sexual and swings both ways. Not sure when you say 'GIRLS' is his code word for gay men. That is a bit of a leap in my opinion. I mean, who gays? If he is gay what does it matter? Let him be openly a high profile homo bodybuilder. Might be a gimmick for him like in wrestling, the openly queer, flamboyant IFBB pro?
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his downward spiral reminds me of tbombz tbh.
he's also had that same facial transformation from attractive young fella to balding neanderthal
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His max weight was 330-lb at just under six feet tall. I wish he would put it away and find work in Quebec somewhere helping people learn English or something.
Eventually (sooner than later) he will have to find another "career " as bodybuilding is short lived for even the best of them
A recent interview of bodybuilders by Fouad Abiad, where he asked what their "After Bodybuilding" career would be?... and not one of them had an answer other than "I haven't given it any/much thought"
Scary that they haven't done so... What if an injury becomes career/bodybuilding ending?.... Then what?
What would they do when suddenly they find themselves "OUT THERE" with no options?
Antoine was already homeless and couch surfing as even his family didn't trust to take him into their homes any more once his addiction became too much.
Hope he sees this and considers "OPTIONS" before it is too late to do so
He is helping with the promotion of the gym PURE MUSCLE AND FITNESS and their recent entry into the supplement business, but I have the feeling Antoine is being used by those guys for their own gain and the fact he can be used to sell products and bring in new members to the gym.
Once however, the gym is running well.... they may decide they no longer need him... and that would leave him with no direction/income/options etc once again, which could again lead to him going back into a lifestyle and drugs that could end him...
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Eventually (sooner than later) he will have to find another "career " as bodybuilding is short lived for even the best of them
A recent interview of bodybuilders by Fouad Abiad, where he asked what their "After Bodybuilding" career would be?... and not one of them had an answer other than "I haven't given it any/much thought"
Scary that they haven't done so... What if an injury becomes career/bodybuilding ending?.... Then what?
What would they do when suddenly they find themselves "OUT THERE" with no options?
Antoine was already homeless and couch surfing as even his family didn't trust to take him into their homes any more once his addiction became too much.
Hope he sees this and considers "OPTIONS" before it is too late to do so
He is helping with the promotion of the gym PURE MUSCLE AND FITNESS and their recent entry into the supplement business, but I have the feeling Antoine is being used by those guys for their own gain and the fact he can be used to sell products and bring in new members to the gym.
Once however, the gym is running well.... they may decide they no longer need him... and that would leave him with no direction/income/options etc once again, which could again lead to him going back into a lifestyle and drugs that could end him...
THINK ABOUT IT....how hard it is to brand yourself still as a bber but not..meaning you downsized enough that you can't guest pose anymore even if shredded only one i can think of is maybe labrada anyway....so i don't see the antoine'brand like i see,cutler,gaspari,labrada..he hasn't won anything to warrant that claim yet...
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He was DROPPED by REDCON1, just like ANIMAL and UNIVERSAL DROPPED HIM FOR THE SAME REASON... the guy has a LOT of DEMONS he has to deal with and it truly is a shame/sad.
Great genetics, killer calves, great proportions, but GAY LIFESTYLE and ENDLESS DRUGS got him dropped from REDCON1, UNIVERSAL and ANIMAL...
Gay Lifestyle??
You mean too much drugs or just acting gay?
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Gay Lifestyle??
You mean too much drugs or just acting gay?
I mean the guy of his own admission and outing by Buendia is gay.
He has made unsettling admissions/remarks to verify the truth about it on INSTAGRAM and YOUTUBE. He has admitted frequently patronizing GAY SEX CLUBS, PARTIES where once he was beat up by a friend and nearly arrested by the cops while in there, but wasn't because the cops recognized who he was.... and you will notice in all of his comments about his friends...THEY ARE ALL GAY.
He was dropped from ANIMAL, from UNIVERSAL and from REDCON1 over it
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I mean the guy of his own admission and outing by Buendia is gay.
He has made unsettling admissions/remarks to verify the truth about it on INSTAGRAM and YOUTUBE. He has admitted frequently patronizing GAY SEX CLUBS, PARTIES where once he was beat up by a friend and nearly arrested by the cops while in there, but wasn't because the cops recognized who he was.... and you will notice in all of his comments about his friends...THEY ARE ALL GAY.
He was dropped from ANIMAL, from UNIVERSAL and from REDCON1 over it
Oh, outed by upstanding citizen Buendia.
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Oh, outed by upstanding citizen Buendia.
My friend.. it was not just Buendia (yes he has a shit personality and domestic abuse charge) it has been a lot of people one of which included Buendia.
Buendia chimed in on a conversation that was addressing Antoine as a rising star and Buendia, in disgust to Antoine's behavior, remarked of his possibilities but his homosexual involvement in dick sucking was sickening. Hence again being dropped from his sponsors over his sexual lifestyle.
Dave Palumbo also mentioned it.
But above all Antoine admitted it over and over since then... Seems being outed made Antoine WORSE
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Rascal you clearly are not looking at his YOUTUBE or INSTAGRAM STORIES page... It really is DISTURBING to hear his constant dick/penis references and not considering he is a representative of a sport/company/manager.
Notice in this YT video of him getting a massage from an equally CREEPY massage therapist, who says he wants to LICK HIM (@4:15 mark), because Antoine smells like Coconuts... WTF?
Then again at in this video at the @4:40 Antoine starts talking about his GAY MALE STRIPPER FRIEND (Oh boy...here we go again) who sends him to a massage therapist who grabs his dick and begins moving it to different places while getting a massage.... seriously Antoine?... Again any STRAIGHT man would not tolerate anything like that
Same video at 10:12 seconds he addresses sucking his own dick for no reason what so ever
Another video (@ 1:25 mark) where for no reason he starts talking about a UFC fighters DICK... And how the opposing fighter should twist his dick...Seriously?
&t=629s
Here Antoine talks about going to a PRIVATE GAY RAVE PARTY IN MONTREAL... where his drug consumption began getting out of control, hanging out with out of control people:Criminals, Druggies, etc... Be aware that when he says "GIRLS" that is code word for GAY MEN
There are lots of other vids and instagram stories (unfortunaely because i did not knwo how to save them, they have disappeared, he became VERY GRAPHIC with his gay life.
UPDATE
Here is another where again he gets into talking about dick, gay lifestyle and even starts that FINGER SNAP that gay men do to draw attention to something or say they are fierce. Starts @ 8:11 mark to 10:10 mark. No straight man would do/talk about such things as any man is concerned about his image. Notice also how the whole staff of Pure Muscle HAPPILY engages in the gay conversation that benefits nothing in the workout ... you'll never find straight men doing this.
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If you type in "Antoine Vaillant Gay" in google it exposes even more
This guy really needs to get help so he can truly get better... I am not hating, but I am hating this making bodybuilding look like Sodom and Gomorrah
Before he he moved into his coaches apartments he was living with this woman.
Now his coach Dorian AKA HD Muscle is starting a supplement company tied to his gym and Antoine is a part of both.
He was not fired from redcon there was a conflict and he had drug problems when he was with Animal etc.
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I don't understand him going up to 330+ pounds and then dropping 50 pounds of it in a month and looking not as good as he did prior to the weight gain.
Hope the plan of his coach produces good results as he seems flat in this video with no benefit so far
Guess we will see once he competes.....
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Before he he moved into his coaches apartments he was living with this woman.
That "woman" was exposed as a TRANSGENDER some time ago... Just look at how tall "she"is? If Antoine is nearly 6 feet she would be the same and "she" is NOT WEARING SHOES!!!!!... How many real women do you know are that tall with or without shoes???
Now his coach Dorian AKA HD Muscle is starting a supplement company tied to his gym and Antoine is a part of both.
Antoine is a good marketing tool, hence my comment of once the gym/supplements are going well, will they continue to keep him on payroll?
He was not fired from redcon there was a conflict and he had drug problems when he was with Animal etc.
There was conflict that included his drug problem, wild behavior, sexual proclivities that brought Aaron Singerman to that decision. He wasn't with any company any length of time before his behavior/drugs/sexuality destroyed it. He addressed this in an interview with Dave Palumbo
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where has all his hair gone, fucking hell that was quick
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Before he he moved into his coaches apartments he was living with this woman.
Now his coach Dorian AKA HD Muscle is starting a supplement company tied to his gym and Antoine is a part of both.
He was not fired from redcon there was a conflict and he had drug problems when he was with Animal etc.
Ticky Ty!!!I know her. that's hilarious you posted this
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where has all his hair gone, fucking hell that was quick
Someone might have to correct me, but TRENBOLONE is the steroid that kills the hair follicles QUICKLY... hence why he has gone bald in just a few years
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Ticky Ty!!!I know her. that's hilarious you posted this
Video angle I think made her look a bit taller. The voice really sounds female (at least to me) and she has a pic of herself as a child her FB. But I don't know her well enough to determine anything.
(https://i.ibb.co/W303LNF/30167481-1865684916796118-7415178129174564326-o.jpg)
where has all his hair gone, fucking hell that was quick
Seems to be a common occurrence in pro bodybuilding.
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Video angle I think made her look a bit taller. The voice really sounds female (at least to me) and she has a pic of herself as a child her FB. But I don't know her well enough to determine anything.
(https://i.ibb.co/W303LNF/30167481-1865684916796118-7415178129174564326-o.jpg)
Seems to be a common occurrence in pro bodybuilding.
didnt used to be..
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Video angle I think made her look a bit taller. The voice really sounds female (at least to me) and she has a pic of herself as a child her FB. But I don't know her well enough to determine anything.
(https://i.ibb.co/W303LNF/30167481-1865684916796118-7415178129174564326-o.jpg)
Seems to be a common occurrence in pro bodybuilding.
Even in powerlifting as this guy who was once a part of the strongest men in the world had his gender changed to female
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/cover49.jpg?quality=65&strip=all)
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Video angle I think made her look a bit taller. The voice really sounds female (at least to me) and she has a pic of herself as a child her FB. But I don't know her well enough to determine anything.
When people transgender, they must create an entirely new identity WHICH ALSO INVOLVES A PAST/PICTURES/HISTORY THAT IS NOT REAL.
I am not saying this is what "she" did, but the only time a woman appears with Antoine is when he has been scolded by his sponsors and they ARRANGE a relationship that lasts all of ten seconds.
He was also claimed to be living/dating the sister of JoJo Nitforo... something that also lasted for ten seconds...
Throw in PLASTIC SURGERY, WIGS, LOTS OF ESTROGEN INJECTIONS (for the sake of feminizing the body) and plenty of makeup and voila... a "woman"...
So far as the voice goes, the powerlifter I posted who now goes by the name JANAE KROC who used to be MATT KROC had what "she" calls VOCAL TENSIONING that permanently raises and alters even the deepest male voice and makes it quite feminine... stop being fooled
(https://i.ibb.co/W303LNF/30167481-1865684916796118-7415178129174564326-o.jpg)
Seems to be a common occurrence in pro bodybuilding.
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Video angle I think made her look a bit taller. The voice really sounds female (at least to me) and she has a pic of herself as a child her FB. But I don't know her well enough to determine anything.
(https://i.ibb.co/W303LNF/30167481-1865684916796118-7415178129174564326-o.jpg)
Seems to be a common occurrence in pro bodybuilding.
She is a female why? I know two chicks here in Toronto he’s dated. Nice looking cool girls too. I don’t follow him like these other psycho guys on here but I know for sure the two girls are girls and decent looking.
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Steroid muscles can work for a niche community of women
This guy would be invisible with your normal everyday off season dad bod
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Steroid muscles can work for a niche community of women
This guy would be invisible with your normal everyday off season dad bod
Brains and drive that equate to high income potential trumps any physique on any day, in any market, when referring to woman. The hunter and gatherer mentality has and never will change.
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Why did Redcon1 drop the sponsorship?
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Why did Redcon1 drop the sponsorship?
I think because he started his own supplement company with Dorian Hamilton and some others.
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I don't understand him going up to 330+ pounds and then dropping 50 pounds of it in a month and looking not as good as he did prior to the weight gain.
Hope the plan of his coach produces good results as he seems flat in this video with no benefit so far
Guess we will see once he competes.....
I don't understand it either, playing the scale game and getting unnecessarily heavy. Having said that, Dorian Hamilton is a good coach (less of a praised 'guru'?) who has been coached himself by the likes of Aceto, Farah, Milos, few other big names too.
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Video angle I think made her look a bit taller. The voice really sounds female (at least to me) and she has a pic of herself as a child her FB. But I don't know her well enough to determine anything.
(https://i.ibb.co/W303LNF/30167481-1865684916796118-7415178129174564326-o.jpg)
Seems to be a common occurrence in pro bodybuilding.
If her cock is smaller than his, then I say God Bless him.
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That looks female to me... Anymore pics?
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Someone might have to correct me, but TRENBOLONE is the steroid that kills the hair follicles QUICKLY... hence why he has gone bald in just a few years
There's not that much difference between steroids in my experience.
I was balding while using most steroids available and I couldn't tell a difference in the rate of hair loss... Dosage is the biggest factor in hair loss by far, the more you run the quicker it goes.
Some say winny is the worst, others var (cause it a dht derivative) but like I said it was all the same to me.
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There's not that much difference between steroids in my experience.
I was balding while using most steroids available and I couldn't tell a difference in the rate of hair loss... Dosage is the biggest factor in hair loss by far, the more you run the quicker it goes.
Some say winny is the worst, others var (cause it a dht derivative) but like I said it was all the same to me.
OK, thanks for the explanation
It just seemed as though I heard that TREN was one of the worse... Now I know it is dosage and not type.
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No Homo alright...LOL
I got a notification on INSTA from Luke, James, Fouad and then Antoine
He posts some pictures of how his diet is going and shows his legs.
I will give him credit for his legs and calves..
Then I started reading the comments and this guy once again with this constant DICK FASCINATION
He makes this comment in the picture below of "WHAT EATS DICK"... and I am thinking WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU EVEN SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE COMMENT SECTION???
Then I saw who he made it to... Quinton, who was ROASTED ON INSTA some time ago when he revealed he's gay...Damnit
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No Homo alright...LOL
I got a notification on INSTA from Luke, James, Fouad and then Antoine
He posts some pictures of how his diet is going and shows his legs.
I will give him credit for his legs and calves..
Then I started reading the comments and this guy once again with this constant DICK FASCINATION
He makes this comment in the picture below of "WHAT EATS DICK"... and I am thinking WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU EVEN SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE COMMENT SECTION???
Then I saw who he made it to... Quinton, who was ROASTED ON INSTA some time ago when he revealed he's gay...Damnit
Sick legs
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Deadpool 2020/21. Dude's a 'tard and will sooner or later Dallasize himself.
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Awwwwww.. How sweet (PUKE)..
Tell me NOT Frank McGrath too?????
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Awwwwww.. How sweet (PUKE)..
Tell me NOT Frank McGrath too?????
Holy fuck.
So is it settled then? Antoine is a bender?
And Frank too?
I mean...I guess, bi. Or no?
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Holy fuck.
So is it settled then? Antoine is a bender?
And Frank too?
I mean...I guess, bi. Or no?
I really hate thinking of this.
I was never really a Football, Baseball or Basketball fan... but always loved Rugby, Worlds Strongest Man, Bodybuilding and Powerlifting
It seems bodybuilding has been INVADED with this element and their whole goal is to TAKE A MAJOR SHIT ON IT, by bringing their sexual proclivities into it...
I mean I know their are Gay people in everything, but when that certain segment makes their sexual escapades the center of LIFE and all else is not important, then they will do and engage in all manner of sordid behavior, which then becomes associated with bodybuilding.
That poster is DISTURBING as it looks straight out of a GAY PERIODICAL that is talking about gay hookups/personals... then add to it, it is addressing VALENTINE'S DAY as a SWOLE-MATE WEEKEND???... I mean SERIOUSLY????
Where is the RESPECT OF THE SPORT/COMPETITORS/BUSINESS/FANS???
No one would give a damn about what they do AFTER HOURS, but this endless throwing of this in our faces..
I just loss any remaining respect for these guys as this has gone too far and NON STOP now.
Now Frank is playing his part in it???.... Ai Yi Yi
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No Homo alright...LOL
I got a notification on INSTA from Luke, James, Fouad and then Antoine
He posts some pictures of how his diet is going and shows his legs.
I will give him credit for his legs and calves..
Then I started reading the comments and this guy once again with this constant DICK FASCINATION
He makes this comment in the picture below of "WHAT EATS DICK"... and I am thinking WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU EVEN SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE COMMENT SECTION???
Then I saw who he made it to... Quinton, who was ROASTED ON INSTA some time ago when he revealed he's gay...Damnit
Really when did Quinton post that? He, Frank and Antoine live in that house they call the "Muscle Mansion". ::)
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Really when did Quinton post that? He, Frank and Antoine live in that house they call the "Muscle Mansion". ::)
Posted that shit on Instagram... No need rolling eyes
Frank McGrath does NOT live at the so called MUSCLE MANSION he moved out some time ago. Never said why...
In so far as Quinton goes, he posted a progress pic of himself and was referring to his legs as CUTE
Everyone laughed believing he meant to say CUT and somehow his fingers hit the E which is relatively close to the letter T .
When posters "corrected"what they believed a mistake and said you meant to say CUT, but we know what you meant, he got on his high horse and practically scolded everyone saying "I SAID CUTE AND MEANT CUTE IT WAS NO MISTAKE "
Some posters said "It is WOMEN who refer to themselves in these terms of cute... NOT MEN, at which he responded THEN SO BE IT.
Uh, NASA WE HAVE A PROBLEM
Till this day Quinton is still referring to himself as CUTE (see post below)
This being done BEFORE teh post from Antoine who asked him WHAT EATS DICK Q??
What MAN would ask/post a question like that to another man?... Nonetheless I realized after not understanding what Antoine was asking and why, that the letter Q looks like a person giving a man a blow job... not funny, just perverse.
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Posted that shit on Instagram... No need rolling eyes
Frank McGrath does NOT live at the so called MUSCLE MANSION he moved out some time ago. Never said why...
In so far as Quinton goes, he posted a progress pic of himself and was referring to his legs as CUTE
Everyone laughed believing he meant to say CUT and somehow his fingers hit the E which is relatively close to the letter T .
When posters "corrected"what they believed a mistake and said you meant to say CUT, but we know what you meant, he got on his high horse and practically scolded everyone saying "I SAID CUTE AND MEANT CUTE IT WAS NO MISTAKE "
Some posters said "It is WOMEN who refer to themselves in these terms of cute... NOT MEN, at which he responded THEN SO BE IT.
Uh, NASA WE HAVE A PROBLEM
Till this day Quinton is still referring to himself as CUTE (see post below)
This being done BEFORE teh post from Antoine who asked him WHAT EATS DICK Q??
What MAN would ask/post a question like that to another man?... Nonetheless I realized after not understanding what Antoine was asking and why, that the letter Q looks like a person giving a man a blow job... not funny, just perverse.
The rolling eyes was toward the nickname of the house not what you posted.
I was/am legit baffled by what these guys are posting. I would have thought he meant cut but obviously I am missing some of the weird references.
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Tell me that is NOT DALLAS McCARVER on the left kissing Frank McGrath with Antoine on the right.... Ugh.... Oh shit
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Tell me that is NOT DALLAS McCARVER on the left kissing Frank McGrath with Antoine on the right.... Ugh.... Oh shit
McCarver always wore mascara...
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McCarver always wore mascara...
I wondered about that myself, if that was mascara or was it just dark eye lashes that made it appear to be MANmakeup...
Now I know
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I love when some of the drug filled bloof-balloons (Pro's) say "I lost 50 pounds of muscle/tissue".
No, you pissed out 50 pounds of pure fluid that was wreaking havoc on your blood-pressure, kidneys, heart, etc...
Tissue ::)
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Tell me that is NOT DALLAS McCARVER on the left kissing Frank McGrath with Antoine on the right.... Ugh.... Oh shit
Was Frank sealed up air tight?
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Was Frank sealed up air tight?
Not quite sure what you mean, this all changes my views of these competitors
I am still recovering from that Cedric McMillan video or him kissing/making love to himself in a mirror...
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Not quite sure what you mean, this all changes my views of these competitors
I am still recovering from that Cedric McMillan video or him kissing/making love to himself in a mirror...
One in the ass the other down the hatch.
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Not quite sure what you mean, this all changes my views of these competitors
I am still recovering from that Cedric McMillan video or him kissing/making love to himself in a mirror...
Yes that was disgusting.... He's a straight up weirdo
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One in the ass the other down the hatch.
Ai Yi Yi..... maybe I should not have asked... I think I just went blind with the visual...
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HD bros in this one.
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HD bros in this one.
his posing is very harsh - def not graceful ;D
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his posing is very harsh - def not graceful ;D
Might be trying to get used to another type of routine/posing format...
Just a guess on my part
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Might be trying to get used to another type of routine/posing format...
Just a guess on my part
my thoughts:
his build is so "in your face/thick" a graceful posing routine would help even him out on stage?
there is def a group of Canadian bodybuilders out there
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my thoughts:
his build is so "in your face/thick" a graceful posing routine would help even him out on stage?
there is def a group of Canadian bodybuilders out there
When he gained all of that unnecessary weight I wondered if he was playing the SIZE GAME
Then he lost it all in just two months going from 334 pounds to now 278.... damn near 60 pounds
Scary tactic... as a diet causes a lot of muscle loss as well.
He mentions APPLE JUICE as a way of bloating/gaining weight... that's a code word for INSULIN and explains how he gained and lost so much weight so quickly afterward.
Insulin causes a lot of fluid retention and stopping it causes that same fluid to drain from the body quickly...
I just want to see where his career goes, because i honestly don't think it will last much longer.
He won his pro card in 2012 and has pretty much done nothing since then and at 34 his competitive bodybuilding days are short. Most people retire around 40... especially once the injuries start happening
This guy has already suffered Tricep injury, Bicep tear, Ankle issues and is still struggling to get to a higher level show, with the Toronto Pro being the highest he has achieved so far.
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I like Antoine as a bodybuilder but his back is either lacking or just behind schedule(conditioning wise) compared to the rest of him. I hope he does well.
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I like Antoine as a bodybuilder but his back is either lacking or just behind schedule(conditioning wise) compared to the rest of him. I hope he does well.
Agree and leg separations as well. I wonder if he rushed this whole prep considering the surgery was eight months ago.
Considering it's been a little over two years he's come a long way. This was his first video following his last rehab. He's lucky to have friends like Dorian.
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ANTOINE IS A PROSTITUTE NOW!!!!
Had to post this after a notification on my Instagram appeared with him in it.
This guy just a week or two ago was on Instag after many of his followers were telling him to put videos of himself on a site called MYFANS or JUSTFANS or somethign like that.
He proceeded to upload a video essentially scolding (lying) to viewers that he would NEVER put a video on that/those sites
Well here is Antoine notifying people that he has set up a CAMEO account and you can (for 50 dollars or more) get Antoine to make "PRIVATE" videos for you doing ANYTHING
https://www.cameo.com/antoinev87
Dude is getting DESPERATE and resorting to all measures to make money and/or get attention.
Dude needs to just GET A JOB and be done with this bodybuilding thing as this is one more step to falling off a cliff.
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ANTOINE IS A PROSTITUTE NOW!!!!
Had to post this after a notification on my Instagram appeared with him in it.
This guy just a week or two ago was on Instag after many of his followers were telling him to put videos of himself on a site called MYFANS or JUSTFANS or somethign like that.
He proceeded to upload a video essentially scolding (lying) to viewers that he would NEVER put a video on that/those sites
Well here is Antoine notifying people that he has set up a CAMEO account and you can (for 50 dollars or more) get Antoine to make "PRIVATE" videos for you doing ANYTHING
https://www.cameo.com/antoinev87
Dude is getting DESPERATE and resorting to all measures to make money and/or get attention.
Dude needs to just GET A JOB and be done with this bodybuilding thing as this is one more step to falling off a cliff.
Pipe down stud.
Cameo is just giving customised shout outs, happy birthdays, motivational messages etc. Myfans etc is selling amateur porn stuff.
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Pipe down stud.
Cameo is just giving customised shout outs, happy birthdays, motivational messages etc. Myfans etc is selling amateur porn stuff.
50 bucks to give someone a SHOUTOUT????
I don't think so
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50 bucks to give someone a SHOUTOUT????
I don't think so
You think wrong. The cameo site is full of has been celebs, retired sportmen, wrestlers etc. Even Brett Favre is on there doing shout outs.
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Posing at the end. :D
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Posing at the end. :D
Another addict who will take himself out via congenital stupidity. I await the news with great anticipation.
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Still gets to train thru quarantine because of the gym equipment in the garage.
What is going on in the MUSCLE MANSION?
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He mentions APPLE JUICE as a way of bloating/gaining weight... that's a code word for INSULIN and explains how he gained and lost so much weight so quickly afterward.
Woah! Shorter bodybuilder who bulked past 300 lbs used insulin in the current era of thong donning? Unbelievable! :o
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Mods, please appropriately rename this thread to something to the effect of:
GETBIGGER SANSOM INTRIGUED BY HOMOEROTICISM IN THONG DONNERS
I hope Antoine has a restraining order against you
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Antoine Vaillant WHAT AM I DOING THESE DAYS?
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Antoine Vaillant WHAT AM I DOING THESE DAYS?
It looks like he is still taking a shitload of drugs and watching his nose get more and more Heathish. He's becoming a blobble-head doll. What a fucking maroon.
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It looks like he is still taking a shitload of drugs and watching his nose get more and more Heathish. He's becoming a blobble-head doll. What a fucking maroon.
Livin' da life! He forgot to mention G4P. What a bum.
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Dunkin Donuts muffins look better.
Love their muffins!
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Dunkin Donuts muffins look better.
you can only eat like that when using gear and insulin, anyone trying without will be a fat slob in a month
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you can only eat like that when using gear and insulin, anyone trying without will be a fat slob in a month
I felt nauseous watching it. Never mind the six meals. :-\.
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I felt nauseous watching it. Never mind the six meals. :-\.
all that shit for breakfast and then going training, fuck that
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all that shit for breakfast and then going training, fuck that
New show prep and diet. To summarize; lots of six ounce chicken meals, a couple of fish and occasional flank. Who needs a prep coach when it's always the same stuff while adjusting carbs/fats.
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Still gets to train thru quarantine because of the gym equipment in the garage.
What is going on in the MUSCLE MANSION?
How the hell do these guys afford this kind of lifestyle? They live in a mansion where all they have to do is eat, train, and sleep. Does anyone have a job? How do they get their money?
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Lots of schmoes with deep pockets. That's how.
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How the hell do these guys afford this kind of lifestyle? They live in a mansion where all they have to do is eat, train, and sleep. Does anyone have a job? How do they get their money?
I have a feeling there is a lot of people who will pay to be trained and mentored by a pro online?
Also he has some sponsorships Maybe he sells illegal steroids?
But I wonder like you do. Maybe he is just bad with his finances and lives over his means.
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Lots of schmoes with deep pockets. That's how.
Yup!
And...deep throats. LOL! ;D
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Dorian and his brother, the main owners of the gym I believe come from money. One of the brothers lives in the muscle mansion. The house itself is rented, so they don't own it. Unsure how Antoine though affords to not work a normal job though.
I assume he is also some kind of partner in the gym, suppp buisness etc. But none of them are on the Regan Grimes type lifestyle. He is a true enigma. Younger than ALL of them by far, but owns his own gym and seems to have come from money. And his gf is cute but she saw the money and said yep.
I thought Antoinne was meant to stay away from pussy, pretty sure that was one of this steps for recovery. But he cannot seem to give that one up. He was single for quite some time. B it now he has a gf. Oh well wish him luck in his recovery.. any1 who wants info one that crew feel free to ask
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Lots of schmoes with deep pockets. That's how.
I think pellius was being sarcastic, everybody knows schmoesquats pay the bills.
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you can only eat like that when using gear and insulin, anyone trying without will be a fat slob in a month
And HGH.
Seems to have a very easy life. Just eat and train. No time constraints. Do whatever he wants when he wants.
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Those worthless ass-puppets at the "Muscle Mansion" have swallowed more wieners than Kobayashi at the annual Nathan's competition.
Fucking retards.
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Lots of schmoes with deep pockets. That's how.
I hear this all the time. What does that mean exactly? Are you saying they are all male prostitutes? That old men pay them to have sex and they can then afford to live in a multi-million dollar mansion and just train and eat all day.
Antoine isn't even a top tier bber yet he's making hundred of thousands of dollars a year having sex with men? Isn't anyone really paying him $1,000 a pop just for a blowjob or getting mounted? And he's doing this everyday, which he has too to be to finance this kind of life style. Just the cost of food, drugs, and HGH especially you have to making well into the six figures.
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has he dressed up as a woman yet?
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Dorian and his brother, the main owners of the gym I believe come from money. One of the brothers lives in the muscle mansion. The house itself is rented, so they don't own it. Unsure how Antoine though affords to not work a normal job though.
I assume he is also some kind of partner in the gym, suppp buisness etc. But none of them are on the Regan Grimes type lifestyle. He is a true enigma. Younger than ALL of them by far, but owns his own gym and seems to have come from money. And his gf is cute but she saw the money and said yep.
I thought Antoinne was meant to stay away from pussy, pretty sure that was one of this steps for recovery. But he cannot seem to give that one up. He was single for quite some time. B it now he has a gf. Oh well wish him luck in his recovery.. any1 who wants info one that crew feel free to ask
Can you tell us more about this muscle mansion? A friend of a friend wants to know.
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A friend of yours? You mean you want to know more...
They are renting a room put for the weekend or whatever and you get to use the new gym tgey run pretty much. Mau my for shoes I guess. Place must reek like am ohol swabbs and protein farts. Also Antoinne now has a gf, so he legit isn't as fun anymore anyways. Oh well.
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It looks like he is still taking a shitload of drugs and watching his nose get more and more Heathish. He's becoming a blobble-head doll. What a fucking maroon.
Why Scott, whatever do you mean..? ;D
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Why Scott, whatever do you mean..? ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465752.0;attach=1256984;image)
;D
Lordy but he has close-set eyes...Like a retarded gecko.
Is he sitting in a bathroom cubicle there? ;D
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CONTEST PREP 2020 - a full month of dieting done
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damn, better hair days...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hz5fy4mzTWU/hqdefault.jpg)
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Dorian and his brother, the main owners of the gym I believe come from money. One of the brothers lives in the muscle mansion. The house itself is rented, so they don't own it. Unsure how Antoine though affords to not work a normal job though.
I assume he is also some kind of partner in the gym, suppp buisness etc. But none of them are on the Regan Grimes type lifestyle. He is a true enigma. Younger than ALL of them by far, but owns his own gym and seems to have come from money. And his gf is cute but she saw the money and said yep.
I thought Antoinne was meant to stay away from pussy, pretty sure that was one of this steps for recovery. But he cannot seem to give that one up. He was single for quite some time. B it now he has a gf. Oh well wish him luck in his recovery.. any1 who wants info one that crew feel free to ask
“Muscle mansion” oh brother haha a Schmoes dream come true
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CALIFORNIA PRO
1 @antoinev87
2 @maxx_charles
3 An Nguyen
4 @patricktmoore
5 @eddiemonster_bracamontes
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CALIFORNIA PRO
1 @antoinev87
2 @maxx_charles
3 An Nguyen
4 @patricktmoore
5 @eddiemonster_bracamontes
Impressive win. Big improvement over NY Pro.
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Ben has a nice gym in FL.
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Impressive win. Big improvement over NY Pro.
Very impressive for him.
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;D
Lordy but he has close-set eyes...Like a retarded gecko.
Is he sitting in a bathroom cubicle there? ;D
My friend said that the French have eyes that are close together. I can't really tell the difference between various ethnic groups from within a race. I remember at one of the Olympias, a blonde couple came to the front desk at the hotel, and I didn't think anything about it. The person asked where they were from, and they said "Poland" with an accent. I could immediately tell they were Polish. I can usually tell Italians, and I also find that Germans can be distinguished based on how their orbitals look.
Vaillant is a French Canadian name, I think. Some names are in Quebec, but wouldn't be in France.
Stephen King is from Maine, and there are a lot of French people there. He usually has French Americans in his story, and the names are always Anglicized a little - like Eduard Delacroix in The Green Mile.
Maxime Boudreault is Thunder Bay's Strongest Man, and won the first three events in Santa Monica, beating both Martins Licis and Brian Shaw. But Jean-Claude Van Damme played "Chance Boudreaux" in Hard Target. ;D
Sorry Scott - I am a fan of the French, and your post triggered me.
Wow...cool to see Antoine winning a pro show! I hope he's done with cocaine, and only using steroids/GH and everything now. It may not be "better", but it is better than the combination. People said that Art Atwood died because of doing both.
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The old Anton would celebrate by doing lines of a trannies cock. I wonder what this version of Anton will do.
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The old Anton would celebrate by doing lines of a trannies cock. I wonder what this version of Anton will do.
Was Antoine really with a transgender female?
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CALIFORNIA PRO
1 @antoinev87
2 @maxx_charles
3 An Nguyen
4 @patricktmoore
5 @eddiemonster_bracamontes
Wearing masks onstage? ???
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damn, better hair days...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hz5fy4mzTWU/hqdefault.jpg)
Who is that?
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The old Anton would celebrate by doing lines of a trannies cock.
What's his GetBig handle..?
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He looked good,focused on getting shape not 300 lbs of water and sorta dieting.unless your a top Olympia caliber guy,stay in what your body can handle
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Was Antoine really with a transgender female?
He was engaged to one.
The tranny wanted the cock removed, but Antoine talked her/him out of it. Good guy Antoine.
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Who is that?
antoine vaillant
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antoine vaillant
Holy crap! He use to be a good looking dude. That's a model look right there. You'de never know it was the same person. Now he's like this ghoulish ogre. Amazing how bodybuilding and drugs can change your appearance in so many ways. Branch Warren is another one who was kind of a pretty boy in his early days.
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Nice guy -looked good at the IFBB California Pro this past weekend
Some pics
http://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2020/ifbb_california_pro/antoine_valliant/
Lighting was difficult this contest, and the background kept changes, as it was a digital pixilated one, not static.
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Wow...cool to see Antoine winning a pro show! I hope he's done with cocaine, and only using steroids/GH and everything now. It may not be "better", but it is better than the combination. People said that Art Atwood died because of doing both.
I'm trying to find an interview he did with his coach Dorian. He does not use GH or slin and that's why he does not have that glazed donut look. Galeniko once told me he saw him in person and said he was enormous.
Many say pics don't do him justice.
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Milos Interviews California Pro Winner Antoine Vaillant
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I'm trying to find an interview he did with his coach Dorian. He does not use GH or slin and that's why he does not have that glazed donut look. Galeniko once told me he saw him in person and said he was enormous.
Many say pics don't do him justice.
Do you believe him when he days he doesn't use gh. He has money. He wants to win the Olympia meaning he wants to be the best in the world. He sees what he's up against. Why wouldn't someone want to do everything possible to be the best? No matter how good you get, you always want to be better.
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Do you believe him when he days he doesn't use gh. He has money. He wants to win the Olympia meaning he wants to be the best in the world. He sees what he's up against. Why wouldn't someone want to do everything possible to be the best? No matter how good you get, you always want to be better.
I seriously doubt anyone with a Pro card isn't on GH/slin. That makes zero sense. He's just another guy who wants everyone to think he's special and has better "genetics".
He doesn't look as puffy as some of the other guys, but neither does Milos. I think they manage their slin intake better and use diuretics more frequently.
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Do you believe him when he days he doesn't use gh. He has money. He wants to win the Olympia meaning he wants to be the best in the world. He sees what he's up against. Why wouldn't someone want to do everything possible to be the best? No matter how good you get, you always want to be better.
his jaw screams GH
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Who is that?
Go 4 It
The old Anton would celebrate by doing lines of a trannies cock. I wonder what this version of Anton will do.
Legit LOL
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Do you believe him when he days he doesn't use gh. He has money. He wants to win the Olympia meaning he wants to be the best in the world. He sees what he's up against. Why wouldn't someone want to do everything possible to be the best? No matter how good you get, you always want to be better.
He’s clearly on GH, just look at the facial changes over the years. Look at how much his nose has changed. It’s so much bigger and wider than it was. Jawline is different too
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Do you believe him when he days he doesn't use gh. He has money. He wants to win the Olympia meaning he wants to be the best in the world. He sees what he's up against. Why wouldn't someone want to do everything possible to be the best? No matter how good you get, you always want to be better.
I don't see why he would lie about it since they were both open about dosages etc. Back in the day I knew Jeff King pretty well and he never touched either one.
As far as acromegaly goes I think we often mistake water retention for acromegaly in bodybuilders. It would take pretty massive amounts to cause major facial bone changes grown adults.
23/24 here and face looks about the same as far as bone structure.
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Milos Interviews California Pro Winner Antoine Vaillant
Both look like they are on amphetamines here. Look closely how they twist the jaw slightly. Sure, Antoine may have damage from previous use and maybe isn't currently on.
I'm trying to find an interview he did with his coach Dorian. He does not use GH or slin and that's why he does not have that glazed donut look. Galeniko once told me he saw him in person and said he was enormous.
Many say pics don't do him justice.
Antoine was maybe off GH at some point for a few weeks for whatever reason but he's been using tons of it, zero doubt. When he won his pro card he was clearly on massive doses of growth, very watery and soft. The definition of glazed donut.
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I don't see why he would lie about it since they were both open about dosages etc. Back in the day I knew Jeff King pretty well and he never touched either one.
As far as acromegaly goes I think we often mistake water retention for acromegaly in bodybuilders. It would take pretty massive amounts to cause major facial bone changes grown adults.
23/24 here and face looks about the same as far as bone structure.
He would lie for the same reason they all lie. I'm not sure what the relevance is comparing him to Jeff King. What one bber does is completely independent to what another does. Jeff was a genetic freak and his era was at a time where gh wasn't as widely used or as readily available. I don't think Antoine is even in the same league as Jeff King as far as raw bbing genetics.
BBers can no longer credibly deny they use steroids. So they will throw out amounts that they think people will believe to appear "open".
Also, at that level, at that mentality, which I assume Antoine has, no matter how good you are, you always want to get better and do whatever it takes to advance.
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Lol 2020 and people still believe bodybuilders are not compulsive liars
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Personally, I think Antoine is little more than a piglet on two legs. I doubt he loses sleep at night over this fact.
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Very good bodybuilder. Probably doesn’t have genetics to be Mr. O but still an interesting entry in this year’s contest. And who care what he’s taking? Even if you took the same exact shit you’d still look like shit so what does it matter.
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Very good bodybuilder. Probably doesn’t have genetics to be Mr. O but still an interesting entry in this year’s contest. And who care what he’s taking? Even if you took the same exact shit you’d still look like shit so what does it matter.
True, pretty sure I took more gear than he took.
Couldn't even win a local show
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Like Branch Warren and Tom Platz, very leg dominant.
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Milos Volumization CHEST Training with Antoine Vaillant, 2 days after his California Pro Victory
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He’s clearly on GH, just look at the facial changes over the years. Look at how much his nose has changed. It’s so much bigger and wider than it was. Jawline is different too
He might not use it because clearly hes doing fine without it. What i cant figure out is why accuse the man of lying? You ha e no proof. It is said that in order for there to be a crime there must be 2 elements a victim and motive. Motive is a powerful thing and Antoine has zero motive to lie about using gh. He gains nothing either way honestly. Hes no better or worse if he lies or tells the truth therefore with nothing to be gained lying makes no sense. It takes extra effort and could later be proven and then he loses credibility and people will shun him out of a career. You should think about these things before you blurt out stupid shit.
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He might not use it because clearly hes doing fine without it. What i cant figure out is why accuse the man of lying? You ha e no proof. It is said that in order for there to be a crime there must be 2 elements a victim and motive. Motive is a powerful thing and Antoine has zero motive to lie about using gh. He gains nothing either way honestly. Hes no better or worse if he lies or tells the truth therefore with nothing to be gained lying makes no sense. It takes extra effort and could later be proven and then he loses credibility and people will shun him out of a career. You should think about these things before you blurt out stupid shit.
You may be right. But people come to their own conclusions base on present evidence and past experience. None of us have any proof that Ronnie took steroids. And why would Antoine lie about taking gh? The same reason bbers lie about taking steroids.
And of course he gains if people believe he doesn't use gh. People will think, "Gee, if he's like this now imagine if he took gh and slin." Same reason why "naturals" lie. How many gullible kids out there look up to O'hearn thinking, "Imagine what he would be if he took steroids and gh? What a guy! Not a sell out. He could destroy all those guys if he wanted to. Fifty plus years old, with a full head of hair, not a wrinkle on him. All without botox and fillers because he's so true to himself. A true genetic marvel!"
What I can't figure out is how someone in this day and age that follows bbing can believe that a bber at a pro elite level would think they wouldn't do anything and everything they can, something that doesn't outright kill them on the spot, to succeed and win? Antoine has the money and the motivation. This is his life. Your window of opportunity is short. He's in his thirties now. The clock is clicking. I wonder if you know how common it is for guys that don't compete and just want to look good on the beach are juiced up and taking hgh? There are tons of suppliers selling real, tested, gh on the net at less than $2.00/iu. No way they can stay in that business, keeping prices that low, if they just catered just to competitive bbers. And gh is a much bigger cash cow than gear.
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You may be right. But people come to their own conclusions base on present evidence and past experience. None of us have any proof that Ronnie took steroids. And why would Antoine lie about taking gh? The same reason bbers lie about taking steroids.
And of course he gains if people believe he doesn't use gh. People will think, "Gee, if he's like this now imagine if he took gh and slin." Same reason why "naturals" lie. How many gullible kids out there look up to O'hearn thinking, "Imagine what he would be if he took steroids and gh? What a guy! Not a sell out. He could destroy all those guys if he wanted to. Fifty plus years old, with a full head of hair, not a wrinkle on him. All without botox and fillers because he's so true to himself. A true genetic marvel!"
What I can't figure out is how someone in this day and age that follows bbing can believe that a bber at a pro elite level would think they wouldn't do anything and everything they can, something that doesn't outright kill them on the spot, to succeed and win? Antoine has the money and the motivation. This is his life. Your window of opportunity is short. He's in his thirties now. The clock is clicking. I wonder if you know how common it is for guys that don't compete and just want to look good on the beach are juiced up and taking hgh? There are tons of suppliers selling real, tested, gh on the net at less than $2.00/iu. No way they can stay in that business, keeping prices that low, if they just catered just to competitive bbers. And gh is a much bigger cash cow than gear.
any elite athlete will have a mindset that will see them leaving no stone unturned, if they start out anti drug and keep placing out of the medals it doesn't make sense that they would stop short of taking drugs if they thought it would give them an edge.
It goes totally against the human psyche
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You may be right. But people come to their own conclusions base on present evidence and past experience. None of us have any proof that Ronnie took steroids. And why would Antoine lie about taking gh? The same reason bbers lie about taking steroids.
And of course he gains if people believe he doesn't use gh. People will think, "Gee, if he's like this now imagine if he took gh and slin." Same reason why "naturals" lie. How many gullible kids out there look up to O'hearn thinking, "Imagine what he would be if he took steroids and gh? What a guy! Not a sell out. He could destroy all those guys if he wanted to. Fifty plus years old, with a full head of hair, not a wrinkle on him. All without botox and fillers because he's so true to himself. A true genetic marvel!"
What I can't figure out is how someone in this day and age that follows bbing can believe that a bber at a pro elite level would think they wouldn't do anything and everything they can, something that doesn't outright kill them on the spot, to succeed and win? Antoine has the money and the motivation. This is his life. Your window of opportunity is short. He's in his thirties now. The clock is clicking. I wonder if you know how common it is for guys that don't compete and just want to look good on the beach are juiced up and taking hgh? There are tons of suppliers selling real, tested, gh on the net at less than $2.00/iu. No way they can stay in that business, keeping prices that low, if they just catered just to competitive bbers. And gh is a much bigger cash cow than gear.
You make pretty good points. I cant say much and honestly im not even a fan of vaillants so whatev.
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I wonder what happened to BLP lol. He was a funny guy.
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Motive is a powerful thing and Antoine has zero motive to lie about using gh.
If you think he isn't using GH then you know nothing much about modern bb. I would say he has at least a decade of GH use behind him. There are many reasons bodybuilders lie, including no reason at all. I would like to know how he "denied" it as well, I bet the denial could be interpreted in different ways.
This is a guy who is a completely cuckoo tranny fucker who goes on meth binges. Something to keep in mind. If you look at how his jaw behaves you can see the telltale stimulant damage.
I did see him deny insulin use on IG. Even that is a lie IMO and you just know he shot about 40 or 50iu of Humalog training with Milos here :D You know Milos was trying to convince him to go on a wild insulin regimen for the O and put on 20lbs of muscle Milos most likely promised :D
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I did see him deny insulin use on IG. Even that is a lie IMO and you just know he shot about 40 or 50iu of Humalog training with Milos here :D You know Milos was trying to convince him to go on a wild insulin regimen for the O and put on 20lbs of muscle Milos most likely promised :D
This is a new one with Milos. I hope he at least got doughnuts with the 40/50 units.😅
Seems Milos makes these workouts up as he goes along. Antoine looks good at the end posing at 275lbs
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This is a new one with Milos. I hope he at least got doughnuts with the 40/50 units.😅
Seems Milos makes these workouts up as he goes along. Antoine looks good at the end posing at 275lbs
I think his training philosophy is kind of crappy. It doesn't make much sense to me as a regular thing. For short periods of time, sure. His idea that you can sort of "burn" in striations training like this definitely does NOT work. I haven't seen one instance where it did.
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I think his training philosophy is kind of crappy. It doesn't make much sense to me as a regular thing. For short periods of time, sure. His idea that you can sort of "burn" in striations training like this definitely does NOT work. I haven't seen one instance where it did.
Post contest I don't think that's a good way to train for sure. I was waiting for a pec tear.
So many tear pecs/quads while blasting tren. He already has a torn bicep from lifting a box or something pre contest.
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Post contest I don't think that's a good way to train for sure. I was waiting for a pec tear.
So many tear pecs/quads while blasting tren. He already has a torn bicep from lifting a box or something pre contest.
Well, Milos actually cited reduced injury risk as a reason to train his way, as opposed to doing "HIT", saying the loads are light with his system.
What I see with Milos' way a lot of the time is that the movements aren't very precise due to fatigue. I also think this type of training leads to a high degree of inflammation which is not conducive to a detailed crisp look. This inflammation leads to swelling of the tissues which can be confused with actual muscle growth. Sure, the insulin is a bit antiinflammatory so it goes great with giant sets, and you have the anticatabolic effects and so on. Patrick Tuor said the claims of insulin putting 30lbs or whatever quickly on people is a joke. He said in his experience the pros using lots of insulin are no bigger than the ones who don't. I tend to mostly agree. Milos has promised 30lbs of muscle from insulin for guys who haven't used it before and Antoine claims he hasn't. So he could be nearly 300lbs at Olympia time if he does it. Fat chance ::) :D
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If you think he isn't using GH then you know nothing much about modern bb. I would say he has at least a decade of GH use behind him. There are many reasons bodybuilders lie, including no reason at all. I would like to know how he "denied" it as well, I bet the denial could be interpreted in different ways.
This is a guy who is a completely cuckoo tranny fucker who goes on meth binges. Something to keep in mind. If you look at how his jaw behaves you can see the telltale stimulant damage.
I did see him deny insulin use on IG. Even that is a lie IMO and you just know he shot about 40 or 50iu of Humalog training with Milos here
Dude looks high in the vid with milos lol. Super high.
As for gh/slin his physique strikes me as juiced to the gills and if he needed insulin and growth to get to where he is at now...
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Well, Milos actually cited reduced injury risk as a reason to train his way, as opposed to doing "HIT", saying the loads are light with his system.
What I see with Milos' way a lot of the time is that the movements aren't very precise due to fatigue. I also think this type of training leads to a high degree of inflammation which is not conducive to a detailed crisp look. This inflammation leads to swelling of the tissues which can be confused with actual muscle growth. Sure, the insulin is a bit antiinflammatory so it goes great with giant sets, and you have the anticatabolic effects and so on. Patrick Tuor said the claims of insulin putting 30lbs or whatever quickly on people is a joke. He said in his experience the pros using lots of insulin are no bigger than the ones who don't. I tend to mostly agree. Milos has promised 30lbs of muscle from insulin for guys who haven't used it before and Antoine claims he hasn't. So he could be nearly 300lbs at Olympia time if he does it. Fat chance ::) :D
The insulin doesn't increase muscle mass per say that is the job of AAS and Growth, mainly. Insulin is more of a storage hormone. Saturates the muscle with glucose. Highly temporary effects. I think we all know this by now though. The higher rep "pump training" is also temporary somewhat with the pump. But I guess it also stimulates slower twitch fibers to grow more in addition to the fast twitch which is more stimulated with heavy explosive training.
I think the insulin adds alot of size with the increase of glucose storage in the muscle. But the downside is ofc the effect on guts/midsections, which may to be more of an abusive long term effect though.
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The insulin doesn't increase muscle mass per say that is the job of AAS and Growth, mainly. Insulin is more of a storage hormone. Saturates the muscle with glucose. Highly temporary effects. I think we all know this by now though. The higher rep "pump training" is also temporary somewhat with the pump. But I guess it also stimulates slower twitch fibers to grow more in addition to the fast twitch which is more stimulated with heavy explosive training.
I think the insulin adds alot of size with the increase of glucose storage in the muscle. But the downside is ofc the effect on guts/midsections, which may to be more of an abusive long term effect though.
Are you equating the temporary effect of the "insulin pump" with the blood in the muscle training pump?
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The insulin doesn't increase muscle mass per say that is the job of AAS and Growth, mainly. Insulin is more of a storage hormone. Saturates the muscle with glucose. Highly temporary effects. I think we all know this by now though. The higher rep "pump training" is also temporary somewhat with the pump. But I guess it also stimulates slower twitch fibers to grow more in addition to the fast twitch which is more stimulated with heavy explosive training.
I think the insulin adds alot of size with the increase of glucose storage in the muscle. But the downside is ofc the effect on guts/midsections, which may to be more of an abusive long term effect though.
Even the storage properties might be highly exaggerated. It would be interesting to test muscle glycogen levels with exogenous insulin, if there really is an appreciable increase in glycogen. As far as I can tell the main effect of insulin wrt glycemia is in stopping hepatic glucose production, not "pushing" glycogen into muscle. They have seen this in diabetics, glucose uptake into muscle isn't hampered much when insulin is withdrawn. Insulin can assist anabolic processes for sure, for example IGF-1 can be increased with insulins, it potentiates GH that way. Lantus in particular has been proven to increase IGF-1 but Milos doesn't like it. :D
I have played with insulin even though I'm not a competitive bb. Tried Actrapid, Humalog, Apidra, Novolog and Lantus Might try some Tresiba soon, it's like a 48 hour insulin IIRC, terrible :D
IGF would be more interesting but I only tried China generics more than a decade ago. Milos thinks IGF is a bad idea on account of the supposed cancer risk. But then, why even risk taking GH or insulin?
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Even the storage properties might be highly exaggerated. It would be interesting to test muscle glycogen levels with exogenous insulin, if there really is an appreciable increase in glycogen. As far as I can tell the main effect of insulin wrt glycemia is in stopping hepatic glucose production, not "pushing" glycogen into muscle. They have seen this in diabetics, glucose uptake into muscle isn't hampered much when insulin is withdrawn. Insulin can assist anabolic processes for sure, for example IGF-1 can be increased with insulins, it potentiates GH that way. Lantus in particular has been proven to increase IGF-1 but Milos doesn't like it. :D
I have played with insulin even though I'm not a competitive bb. Tried Actrapid, Humalog, Apidra, Novolog and Lantus Might try some Tresiba soon, it's like a 48 hour insulin IIRC, terrible :D
IGF would be more interesting but I only tried China generics more than a decade ago. Milos thinks IGF is a bad idea on account of the supposed cancer risk. But then, why even risk taking GH or insulin?
A friend of mine would routinely eat 200 grams of carbohydrates before training which would last about two hours and then by the time he got home, showered, and prepared his meal another hour or so will past.
When he started experimenting with insulin he took 30 ius of Humalog after his pre workout 200 gram carb meal. After an hour and a half he went hypo and almost passed out. Fortunately he was smart enough to carry a tube of those glucose pills which he downed immediate giving him a quick 40 grams and he had access to a vending matching where he down about 3 bottles of Gatorade. This revived him enough to walk next door where they had a fast food spot so he could get something to eat.
So my question is, where did all that glucose go from the Humalog? I always thought it went straight to the muscle. It certainly went somewhere fast proving that exogenous slin crams those nutrients at a rate and greater amount than you can do naturally. All those sugars he was consuming during his hypo state was also being shuttled somewhere.
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A friend of mine would routinely eat 200 grams of carbohydrates before training which would last about two hours and then by the time he got home, showered, and prepared his meal another hour or so will past.
When he started experimenting with insulin he took 30 ius of Humalog after his pre workout 200 gram carb meal. After an hour and a half he went hypo and almost passed out. Fortunately he was smart enough to carry a tube of those glucose pills which he downed immediate giving him a quick 40 grams and he had access to a vending matching where he down about 3 bottles of Gatorade. This revived him enough to walk next door where they had a fast food spot so he could get something to eat.
So my question is, where did all that glucose go from the Humalog? I always thought it went straight to the muscle. It certainly went somewhere fast proving that exogenous slin crams those nutrients at a rate and greater amount than you can do naturally. All those sugars he was consuming during his hypo state was also being shuttled somewhere.
The insulin stops glucose production in the liver and this has major effects on glycemia. Like I said, it's the reason for hyperglycemia in diabetics if they miss doses, not because muscle stops taking up glucose. I have experimented a lot and the way to go hypo is to dump a ton of fast carbs in short period of time when taking insulin. I think the exogenous insulin doesn't match up quite right with the huge bolus of glucose and you get a ton of endogenous release. Then as the body is already handling the glucose on it's own the exo kicks in :D A more drawn out intake works better IMO and you can get away with less.
I haven't done A TON of reading on insulin but this paper I have posted before is interesting;
https://bjanaesthesia.org/article/S0007-0912(17)37337-3/fulltext
Such calculations show that, in the face of hyperglycaemia, tissue glucose uptake is usually increased above normal even when insulin deficiency is severe. This cannot be reconciled with the concept that insulin is required for glucose uptake by insulin-sensitive tissues. Indeed it proves beyond question that insulin is not required
How then does insulin lower the blood glucose in diabetes?
Again this question is simple to answer and, by now, the answer will not be surprising. The use of tracer glucose infusions has shown not only that hyperglycaemia in the face of insulin deficiency is the result of over-production of glucose by the liver but also that insulin infusion lowers blood glucose by inhibiting hepatic glucose production. Indeed, rather than stimulating glucose uptake in tissues such as muscle, insulin in fact reduces glucose uptake. This is because the main factor driving glucose uptake is the ‘mass action’ effect of hyperglycaemia and the concentration gradient between the extracellular and intracellular glucose concentrations. Glucose transporters are not rate limiting under these conditions, even in the face of severe insulin deficiency
BTW, I saw where a British pro who became diabetic gave advice on how to handle hypoglycemia on a diet when using insulin. He recommended just 15 grams and waiting for a period before taking more. I have seen diabetic recommendations of just 5 grams of glucose if feeling hypo outside of regular meals. Doesn't take much necessarily.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/BwKvueIgove/?igshid=ihryh3wuz0ri
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The insulin stops glucose production in the liver and this has major effects on glycemia. Like I said, it's the reason for hyperglycemia in diabetics if they miss doses, not because muscle stops taking up glucose. I have experimented a lot and the way to go hypo is to dump a ton of fast carbs in short period of time when taking insulin. I think the exogenous insulin doesn't match up quite right with the huge bolus of glucose and you get a ton of endogenous release. Then as the body is already handling the glucose on it's own the exo kicks in :D A more drawn out intake works better IMO and you can get away with less.
I haven't done A TON of reading on insulin but this paper I have posted before is interesting;
https://bjanaesthesia.org/article/S0007-0912(17)37337-3/fulltext
BTW, I saw where a British pro who became diabetic gave advice on how to handle hypoglycemia on a diet when using insulin. He recommended just 15 grams and waiting for a period before taking more. I have seen diabetic recommendations of just 5 grams of glucose if feeling hypo outside of regular meals. Doesn't take much necessarily.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/BwKvueIgove/?igshid=ihryh3wuz0ri
Yes, I didn't realize that. I remember my Aunt use to pop one or two of those Glucose tabs that come in a tube of ten tabs when she'd go hypo. I didn't realize until I became more aware of diabetes and insulin that those tabs are only 4 grams of glucose each.
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So is taking GH without slin good or bad? I was considering trying it (GH i mean.)
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So is taking GH without slin good or bad? I was considering trying it (GH i mean.)
It's fine, it is just that when you take huge doses of GH you probably should add some slin in there as well.
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It's fine, it is just that when you take huge doses of GH you probably should add some slin in there as well.
What is considered a huge dose? For Seros, the SINGLE dose vial is 6mg (18ius). They also have the less common SINGLE dose vial of 5mg (15ius)
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What is considered a huge dose? For Seros, the SINGLE dose vial is 6mg (18ius). They also have the less common SINGLE dose vial of 5mg (15ius)
There was this Saudi (IIRC) coach here who didn't believe me when I told him about the HIV dosages, said no one ever did 18iu, certainly not for HIV.
Though in this case I would say that this dosage is not beneficial and could be outright dangerous. I think they sought approval for so much to sell more of their crazy expensive drug.
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There was this Saudi (IIRC) coach here who didn't believe me when I told him about the HIV dosages, said no one ever did 18iu, certainly not for HIV.
Though in this case I would say that this dosage is not beneficial and could be outright dangerous. I think they sought approval for so much to sell more of their crazy expensive drug.
Years ago on MucleMayhem, someone speculated that Ronnie Coleman was probably taking 18ius of GH per day. On Mayhem, saying anything that could be perceived remotely negatively about a pro bodybuilder - even RECORDED QUOTES FROM THE BODYBUILDERS THEMSELVES - subjected you to being banned.
In either 2005 or 2006, Serge Nubret Claimed that he never used steroids in bodybuilding during his competitive prime. Then I simply posted a quote from Serge himself taken directly from the May 1979 issue #14 of MUSCLEMAG INTL [pictured below] where he himself admitted to using steroids, specifically citing Winstrol as a means of hardening up his physique.
Some typical Mayhem member / idol worshipper of pro bodybuilders immediately quoted me, and asked me why I had to always cause animosity by taking contrarian positions. ::)
That board was pure groupthink in action. As an autistic, it was cringe for me to hang out there for the couple of years that I did.
In fact, MuscleMayhem to pretty much any Getbigger would be what life is like for an autistic. It's just annoying living life doing nothing more than stating the blatantly obvious, and being perceived as if *I* am somehow the insane one.
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Years ago on MucleMayhem
Yeah, though Chad fucking named the steroid section "Chemical Warfare" Lol. I started the whole insulin debate between Chad and Milos that blew up. This was within days of the forum opening. Chad probably regretted answering me at all :D Too bad the posts are gone, would've been fun to look at it again after so long. Perhaps they are archived somewhere but I'm not technical enough to find them.
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Yeah, though Chad fucking named the steroid section "Chemical Warfare" Lol. I started the whole insulin debate between Chad and Milos that blew up. This was within days of the forum opening. Chad probably regretted answering me at all :D
LOL!!!!
HAHAHAHA.
A usual long, autistic post from me, but it actually has a point about your point, so bear with me. ;D
Do you recall in 2005 when the IFBB sent out a memo stating that bodybuilders were to reduce size/weight by about 15%, and stricter judging at that year's Olympia would be placed on aesthetics, with specific emphasis on the midsection?
That memo ruined Ruhl's placing that year, because he was one of the few guys who actually tried to follow it. Poor guy. Meanwhile, guys who did nothing differently or even continued to get bigger, were judged advantageously. I can't recall why Dex skipped out that Mr. Olympia, but I don't think it was related to the memo.
Ronnie Coleman actually did follow the memo too - and slimmed down from the 296-lb he was at the 2004 Mr. Olympia contest, to 275-lb in 2005...and did present a package very much different than he showed at any other contest. It was interesting. He took a risk following that memo.
Really, the memo should have read something like:
"Dear Dues-Paying IFBB Pro Card Holder,
It has recently been brought to the attention of Joe Weider's Shabbos Goy Stooges The IFBB Professional League that IFBB professional bodybuilder overall stomach size has increased in length, width, and trimester stage since the Ironage.
As a result, all IFBB Mr. Olympia 2005 professional bodybuilding competitors are being asked to reduce overall body size by 15%, and specific emphasis will be placed on midsection size. Judges have been advised to shift their eyes slightly upward from their normal viewing angle in order to do a more thorough evaluation of stomach sizes on IFBB professional bodybuilders competing at this year's IFBB Mr. Olympia 2005, who will be reduced in points, if their stomachs are larger than one average weight median-aged Galápagos tortoise.
And since a lot of the IFBB brass are skinny little old manlets who get off bossing around men twice their size, please don't crush me if you see me at the expo during the competition weekend.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely Yours,
Some Schmoe in a suit and tie who has never worked out a day in his life, whose only interest in bodybuilding for half of us is to masturbate to large muscular men in thongs, and whose only interest for the other half is to boss around men that would break us in two in any other context in life."
IFBB Brass Member."
I wonder if that memo is still anywhere online.
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But anyway, news of that memo made it to Chad's MuscleShmayorham board, and people were discussing how bodybuilders would be making changes in order to meet the new requirements.
Then some astute - probably autistic - poster said "I guess Ronnie could always lower the doses."
Someone almost immediately replied "HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT RONNIE WOULD LOSE MASS IF HE DID THAT?!"
I was thinking..."LMAO!!! Dumb shit...IF THE DOSES HE IS TAKING ARE NOT NEEDED TO SUSTAIN THE SIZE HE IS CARRYING, WHY THE F*CK WOULD HE BE TAKING THOSE DOSES?"
Haha.
MuscleGayHam member: "There's no proof Ronnie Coleman would lose muscle mass if he dropped from 18ius of GH daily to 6ius of GH daily."
Then on a lucky day, you'd see a reply from a MuscleGayHam member who was actually sane, and probably later fled the board to come here, before his reply was deleted for being hate speech: "So if Ronnie would be just as big on 6ius of GH daily rather than 18ius of GH daily, why wouldn't he just take 6ius daily, save all that money thanks to now only having to buy a third as much GH as before, and still compete at the same size?
Members posting ANY degree of sanity would be banned...not unlike being fired from universities these days for saying anything remotely sane.
And of course, as they say "Go Woke - Go Broke", and MuscleMayhem was, in its own way, woke. And it did indeed go broke.
Yeah, though Chad fucking named the steroid section "Chemical Warfare" Lol. I started the whole insulin debate between Chad and Milos that blew up. This was within days of the forum opening. Chad probably regretted answering me at all :D Too bad the posts are gone, would've been fun to look at it again after so long. Perhaps they are archived somewhere but I'm not technical enough to find them.
I was wondering the same thing myself, Van! And I actually messaged Chad about that on Facebook.
He told me that he has the ENTIRE website including ALL message board threads archived and backed up online.
Unlike Shawn Perine [RIP] whose IronAge website was closed down, followed by the young death of Shawn himself in 2017, Chad does have a full backup/archived copy of MuscleMayhem somewhere. IronAge, along with thousands - quite possibly MILLIONS - of other IronAge, GoldenAge, and SilverAge websites since the dawn of the internet, are probably lost in time right now, never to return again. It's pretty sad, to me.
But we still - for now - have The Wayback achine at www.archive.org, which has snapshots of millions of old websites. I love it. It's damn cool to me to see a fossil of the internet's past, literally frozen in time, far before present day when things were, well...for me at least,b]welll...not literally the most insane year I've ever experienced such far![/b] LOL. God, what an insane year. Here is a snap of how Chad's board looked in June of 2004:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040626011622/http://musclemayhem.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi
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Joey Szatmary: I tried a PRO bodybuilders upper body workout | Ft Jujimufu & Antoine Vaillant
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True, pretty sure I took more gear than he took.
Couldn't even win a local show
Lol this comment made my day! I feel your pain bro, been there!
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Milos pointers on Cable Crossovers with Antoine Vaillant
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all the GH talk - quick question
ideal dose for long term fat loss and healthy benefits? 2IU per day?
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all the GH talk - quick question
ideal dose for long term fat loss and healthy benefits? 2IU per day?
Sounds about right. Maybe even slightly less. Some of these secretagogues that are everywhere can be very effective in raising GH and IGF-1. You could maybe even do both, an IU of GH and a secretagogue like MK-677 or the injectable peptides. Maybe consider Metformin or Berberine if blood glucose goes up.
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Sounds about right. Maybe even slightly less. Some of these secretagogues that are everywhere can be very effective in raising GH and IGF-1. You could maybe even do both, an IU of GH and a secretagogue like MK-677 or the injectable peptides. Maybe consider Metformin or Berberine if blood glucose goes up.
i might need to hit up you with more questions
wow that is a lot to take in. ill be 37 soon (2 weeks) and eventually looking for a solid anti aging stack (non competitive/low dose TRT/GH etc etc) a few years out.
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Years ago on MucleMayhem, someone speculated that Ronnie Coleman was probably taking 18ius of GH per day. On Mayhem, saying anything that could be perceived remotely negatively about a pro bodybuilder - even RECORDED QUOTES FROM THE BODYBUILDERS THEMSELVES - subjected you to being banned.
In either 2005 or 2006, Serge Nubret Claimed that he never used steroids in bodybuilding during his competitive prime. Then I simply posted a quote from Serge himself taken directly from the May 1979 issue #14 of MUSCLEMAG INTL [pictured below] where he himself admitted to using steroids, specifically citing Winstrol as a means of hardening up his physique.
Some typical Mayhem member / idol worshipper of pro bodybuilders immediately quoted me, and asked me why I had to always cause animosity by taking contrarian positions. ::)
That board was pure groupthink in action. As an autistic, it was cringe for me to hang out there for the couple of years that I did.
In fact, MuscleMayhem to pretty much any Getbigger would be what life is like for an autistic. It's just annoying living life doing nothing more than stating the blatantly obvious, and being perceived as if *I* am somehow the insane one.
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you have that quote about winny from serge?
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Sounds about right. Maybe even slightly less. Some of these secretagogues that are everywhere can be very effective in raising GH and IGF-1. You could maybe even do both, an IU of GH and a secretagogue like MK-677 or the injectable peptides. Maybe consider Metformin or Berberine if blood glucose goes up.
Good answer, i found that 2 iu is great for just general benefits. I never had glucose issues until i got in the 4-5 iu range, but it's smart to keep an eye on it.
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you have that quote about winny from serge?
Serge continued with his natural talk up til his death. Shortly before he died some promotor said he got Segre drugs during his seminar tour. They had some disagreement so the guy posted that on FB :D
I don't know if the circumstances around his death came out? There was some chatter about insulin overdose or something IIRC?
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you have that quote about winny from serge?
I'm glad you asked! Fair question...and it's cool to know what our Ironage bodybuilding icons looked like.
That being said, all Serge really said was something to the effect of "Yes, I used Winstrol to harden up a little before the contest, but the real effort was put in the gym, working hard."
^ Something very close to that.
Its #14, May 1979 here, with the Serge Nubret cover, and the woman who appears to be half Black/half Asian:
https://vintagemusclemags.com/mags.php?c=174
I think it's for sale on that website. I couldn't find it on EBAY. I'm almost certain I have it in storage somewhere, lol.
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Serge continued with his natural talk up til his death. Shortly before he died some promotor said he got Segre drugs during his seminar tour. They had some disagreement so the guy posted that on FB :D
I don't know if the circumstances around his death came out? There was some chatter about insulin overdose or something IIRC?
I thought his kid(s) poisoned him somehow to get their inheritance early..? Wasn't one of his daughters a physician or surgeon or something? With access to dangerous stuff :-\
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Serge continued with his natural talk up til his death. Shortly before he died some promotor said he got Segre drugs during his seminar tour. They had some disagreement so the guy posted that on FB :D
I don't know if the circumstances around his death came out? There was some chatter about insulin overdose or something IIRC?
Serge was a nice guy and gave a lot of time to the forum incels. But a lot of the claims were silly. He was the black caesar of parabolin. I remember getting real stringy doing his light weight pump workouts while clean.
I think it's more likely to be an insulin overdose vs getting poisoned, as he was broke so his kids didn't have much to gain.
The weird thing was that someone logged into his account to say his kids were conspiring against him.
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Good answer, i found that 2 iu is great for just general benefits. I never had glucose issues until i got in the 4-5 iu range, but it's smart to keep an eye on it.
I am excited to use 2IU per day long term. I am very much into anti aging/health so i realize it is a compound effect
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17 Days Out
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17 Days Out
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I root for this guy to do well. Hopefully, he is judged fairly and lands solidly in the top 10.
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That guy is one tough mother
Hope he does well and stays sober
Great physique
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You may be right. But people come to their own conclusions base on present evidence and past experience. None of us have any proof that Ronnie took steroids. And why would Antoine lie about taking gh? The same reason bbers lie about taking steroids.
And of course he gains if people believe he doesn't use gh. People will think, "Gee, if he's like this now imagine if he took gh and slin." Same reason why "naturals" lie. How many gullible kids out there look up to O'hearn thinking, "Imagine what he would be if he took steroids and gh? What a guy! Not a sell out. He could destroy all those guys if he wanted to. Fifty plus years old, with a full head of hair, not a wrinkle on him. All without botox and fillers because he's so true to himself. A true genetic marvel!"
What I can't figure out is how someone in this day and age that follows bbing can believe that a bber at a pro elite level would think they wouldn't do anything and everything they can, something that doesn't outright kill them on the spot, to succeed and win? Antoine has the money and the motivation. This is his life. Your window of opportunity is short. He's in his thirties now. The clock is clicking. I wonder if you know how common it is for guys that don't compete and just want to look good on the beach are juiced up and taking hgh? There are tons of suppliers selling real, tested, gh on the net at less than $2.00/iu. No way they can stay in that business, keeping prices that low, if they just catered just to competitive bbers. And gh is a much bigger cash cow than gear.
This is a good post
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17 Days Out
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He looks great there, but the lighting is really helping.
Once he gets the water out he should look shredded.
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He looks great there, but the lighting is really helping.
Once he gets the water out he should look shredded.
Agree
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That guy is one tough mother
Hope he does well and stays sober
Great physique
Agreed. X2
It's funny to re-read some of the salty comments in the early pages of this thread. Some of the vile shit they said about AV and he's having a career high year with a pro win and Olympia qualification. Boom!!!
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BEHIND THE SCENES SHOOT WITH VOGUE PHOTOGRAPHER | ft. ANTOINE VAILLANT
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BEHIND THE SCENES SHOOT WITH VOGUE PHOTOGRAPHER | ft. ANTOINE VAILLANT
He'd make a good Mr. Olympia. Only thing I don't care for are his "lazy nipples".
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Agreed. X2
It's funny to re-read some of the salty comments in the early pages of this thread. Some of the vile shit they said about AV and he's having a career high year with a pro win and Olympia qualification. Boom!!!
He's got a shot at top 10. The lineup is stacked and a top 10 is an achievement
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He'd make a good Mr. Olympia. Only thing I don't care for are his "lazy nipples".
looks good from the front. His legs are Top 3 in the world probably. Other than that his arms looks small sometimes next to the genetic top elite.
But really lacks in bdb and rear lat spread. Why he will never be a Mr.O
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His nipples always protruded even back in the day. Im sure there is a atory behind them. Possible gyno surgery incident
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looks good from the front. His legs are Top 3 in the world probably. Other than that his arms looks small sometimes next to the genetic top elite.
But really lacks in bdb and rear lat spread. Why he will never be a Mr.O
Top 3? Who’s 1 and 2?
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Too bad the dude lost all of his hair.
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Modern white bbers are all walking around bald or going bald
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ANTOINE AND RAW MCGRIZZLY - OLYMPIAN CHEST WORKOUT
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he will be snorting lines shortly.
Good to see Frank Mcgrath having a mid life crisis.
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Another bicep tear :o
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Modern white bbers are all walking around bald or going bald
And over-compensating with massive Viking beards
Another bicep tear :o
Must masturbate left-handed
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And over-compensating with massive Viking beards
Must masturbate left-handed
He tore his left this time so he is safe.😅
https://fitnessvolt.com/antoine-vaillant-torn-bicep-surgery/
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BICEP TEAR # 2 | ft. ANTOINE VAILLANT
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BICEP TEAR # 2 | ft. ANTOINE VAILLANT
LOL.. here comes the downward spiral.
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What a feckless maroon. If Canadian roads were paved with cocks, this turd would walk on his ass.
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What a feckless maroon. If Canadian roads were paved with cocks, this turd would walk on his ass.
;D ;D
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LOL.. here comes the downward spiral.
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Yeah I saw this - wonder if he's now picking up injuries to give him reasons to keep hitting the pain killers? ;D
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What's next, will he become the Canadian Pec God or perhaps he will have a harem of piggy worshipers. What a fucktard.
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Yeah I saw this - wonder if he's now picking up injuries to give him reasons to keep hitting the pain killers? ;D
Pretty sure opiates aren't his thing no?
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what a life...
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Another day in my 300lb life!
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^^ that video had me laughing out loud….. dude is definitely entertaining/Funny af!
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Lol Jesus Christ.. 99% percentile for heart attack risk in his age range. Guy is only one year older than me … makes me nervous lol :-X
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He suffers* from "Congenital Stoopidity". The number one killer of "bodybuilders". Fuck him.
*Remember, ignorance is bliss and few are more ignorant that today's "bodybuilders".
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FFS - How old? (going to watch video now)
Cross posted to the Deadpool 2022 thread
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Watched this video earlier. Used to be a big fan of his from the Animal days but since he dropped off the map due to his personal problems,
I stopped following him and and BBing career so to speak.
Cliffs on vid -
Him and his juiced crew decided to get tested, since so many bbers's reportedly were having heart attacks/dropping dead.
Did a calcium score test, which tells you how much plaque had built up in your arteries.
His calcium score was above the 99th percentile, he's basically in highest risk category.
While his crew were in the clear, AV's doc ordered more tests for him - An MRI and an angiogram I believe.
His doc had some good news, his angiogram showed he has minimal plaquing.
Apparently has a genetic predisposition to heart issues, so he needs to do these tests every year now to be safe.
He's considered quitting BBing, taking time off from competing.
Plans to get leaner, eat a healthier diet, maybe compete in mens physique lol.
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Watched this video earlier, used to be a big fan of his from the Animal days but since he dropped off the map due to his personal problems,
I stopped following him and and BBing career so to speak.
Cliffs on vid -
Him and his juiced crew decided to get tested since so many bbers's reportedly were having heart attacks/dropping dead.
Did a calcium score test which tells you how much plaque had built up in your arteries.
His calcium score was above the 99% percentile, he's basically in highest risk category.
While his crew were in the clear, AV's doc ordered more tests for him - An MRI and an angiogram I believe.
His doc had some good news, his angriogram showed he has minimal plaquing.
Apparently has a genetic predisposition to heart issues, so he needs to do these tests every year now to be safe.
He's considered quitting BBing, taking time off from competing.
Plans to get leaner, eat a healthier diet maybe compete in mens physique lol
dont they all..... ::)
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But whats going on with his teeth ? No one notice that ? He had huge fk off veneers and nek minnute gone and some weird shit is going on. All around bizzare
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A nutcase
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he knows whats coming...
tick, tick, tick,... ----------------------------------
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he knows whats coming...
tick, tick, tick,... ----------------------------------
But he feels OK - like McCarver, Meadows, Rhoden, McMillan, Loyd, etc... what could possibly go wrong with keeping his foot on the gas after a major health scare? It's just haters...
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But whats going on with his teeth ? No one notice that ? He had huge fk off veneers and nek minnute gone and some weird shit is going on. All around bizzare
he’s speaking differently now too (my speech was affected by all my Dentistry ….almost looks like now he has dentures? … before his teeth were blazingly white and big …and now you can barely see them … not sure exactly what’s going on? ) but yea I noticed it
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Is it too late to add him to the Deadpool 2022 thread?
Bodybuilding is a glorified drug pageant. He has heart issues yet he continues to abuse peds. I will feel
No remorse when this tranny/shemale fucker drops dead.
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he’s speaking differently now too (my speech was affected by all my Dentistry ….almost looks like now he has dentures? … before his teeth were blazingly white and big …and now you can barely see them … not sure exactly what’s going on? ) but yea I noticed it
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what are those? (Like “ snap on veneers ??!”) … that’s kind of dumb lol … you still have nasty teeth .. they are just hidden …
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10 years all nashural. Hard werk
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But whats going on with his teeth ? No one notice that ? He had huge fk off veneers and nek minnute gone and some weird shit is going on. All around bizzare
i think he is wearing a mouth guard.
assuming someone is going to wrestle him for the bench.
No never mind, saw his IG story he did something to them.
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he’s speaking differently now too (my speech was affected by all my Dentistry ….almost looks like now he has dentures? … before his teeth were blazingly white and big …and now you can barely see them … not sure exactly what’s going on? ) but yea I noticed it
Mall cop and new teeth!! You’re on top of the world.
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Mall cop and new teeth!! You’re on top of the world.
The world is my motherfucking oyster!!
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But he feels OK - like McCarver, Meadows, Rhoden, McMillan, Loyd, etc... what could possibly go wrong with keeping his foot on the gas after a major health scare? It's just haters...
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They never let off
Him, Walker, calum, all going to drop dead very soon
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The world is my motherfucking oyster!!
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The world is my motherfucking oyster!!
To always protect and serve the community food court!
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To always protect and serve the community food court!
;D ;D
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;D ;D
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Grow the moustache for us please brother Mike. A proper one, minus a goatee
Also tell Giles on MD to stfu. Bitches about women having cosmetic procedures done and not too long ago he wanted to get botox done. Banned on there otherwise would do it myself.
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Chicago Pro this weekend
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Deadpool 2023.
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Deadpool 2023 2022
;)
Trust me - there's 5 whole months of '22 left - and that's a life-time when you're turning your arteries - and the contents thereof - into haggis!
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Jesus antoinne has come along way. Did this cheeky prep undwr the radar and looks amazing
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Jesus antoinne has come along way. Did this cheeky prep undwr the radar and looks amazing
Hi Antoinne
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Congrats Antoine! Well deserved.
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Jesus antoinne has come along way. Did this cheeky prep undwr the radar and looks amazing
Congratulations Antoine!!
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Congrats Antoine! Well deserved.
My guess dead by the olympia.
Now, that he’s qualified will surly continue the drugs.
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My guess dead by the olympia.
Now, that he’s qualified will surly continue the drugs.
I hope not but it sure seems like he's on the fast track.
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From a relapsed “ junkie “ to out of bodybuilding and competition due to heart problems…. To qualifying for the MR OLYMPIA! … I don’t give a fuck what anyone says! … you are the most inspirational bodybuilder ever! Congratulations!!
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From a relapsed “ junkie “ to out of bodybuilding and competition due to heart problems…. To qualifying for the MR OLYMPIA! … I don’t give a fuck what anyone says! … you are the most inspirational bodybuilder ever! Congratulations!!
Yes, we need more bbers like this, don’t give a fuck about health but enough to Don the thong for our viewing pleasure, willing to do battle at all times
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Yes, we need more bbers like this, don’t give a fuck about health but enough to Don the thong for our viewing pleasure, willing to do battle at all times
Agreed,
More BB’s need to completely disregard their health and battle for the 3rd or 4th call out at the olympia.
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Agreed,
More BB’s need to completely disregard their health and battle for the 3rd or 4th call out at the olympia.
;D
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You guys are right and logical! (Still don’t give a fuck …rather go out like that …then pissing and shitting my pants and drooling on people)
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You guys are right and logical! (Still don’t give a fuck …rather go out like that …then pissing and shitting my pants and drooling on people)
Perhaps you should reevaluate your decision. Pissing and shitting your pants and drooling on people could be considered good attributes for a president in some countries.
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No onea going to mention the teeth ? I mean jesus. So blatantly obvious but they just change the way his face looks. Like they are too big or something
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No onea going to mention the teeth ? I mean jesus. So blatantly obvious but they just change the way his face looks. Like they are too big or something
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Guy looks great,just doesn’t care about long term health.best he has looked contest wise.
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Perhaps you should reevaluate your decision. Pissing and shitting your pants and drooling on people could be considered good attributes for a president in some countries.
:D
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No onea going to mention the teeth ? I mean jesus. So blatantly obvious but they just change the way his face looks. Like they are too big or something
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Guy looks great,just doesn’t care about long term health.best he has looked contest wise.
This is all that matters.
Don the thong in the funeral parlour.
Who am I kidding he won’t be able to afford a funeral.
Into the furnace for 300 bucks.
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He won the Chicago pro. He is really moving up, but he will look small at the O.
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From a relapsed “ junkie “ to out of bodybuilding and competition due to heart problems…. To qualifying for the MR OLYMPIA! … I don’t give a fuck what anyone says! … you are the most inspirational bodybuilder ever! Congratulations!!
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Having heart issues that could potentially kill you is "irritating" - LOL!
Yes, we need more bbers like this, don’t give a fuck about health but enough to Don the thong for our viewing pleasure, willing to do battle at all times
Agreed,
More BB’s need to completely disregard their health and battle for the 3rd or 4th call out at the olympia.
We could even start naming the other places after recent Thong-Martyrs...
2nd - The Rhoden Award
3rd - The McCarver Medal
4th - The McMillan Trophy
We could even have prizes for best bodyparts - how's about the Flex Wheeler award for one or more outstanding calves?
(too soon?)
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Having heart issues that could potentially kill you is "irritating" - LOL!
We could even start naming the other places after recent Thong-Martyrs...
2nd - The Rhoden Award
3rd - The McCarver Medal
4th - The McMillan Trophy
We could even have prizes for best bodyparts - how's about the Flex Wheeler award for one or more outstanding calves?
(too soon?)
LMFAO @ the award names. Shouldn't there be awards named after Mo Benazziza Andreas Munzer? They were both like pioneers to the modern wing of bodybuilding.
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LMFAO @ the award names. Shouldn't there be awards named after Mo Benazziza Andreas Munzer? They were both like pioneers to the modern wing of bodybuilding.
they need to have an award called the Ronnie Coleman Hip Joint/Ball & Socket Award
Spinal Fusion Titanium Screw Award
Endowment For Opioids Contest
Continuous Injury and Surgery Award
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Is it possible for Antoine Vaillant to sort of do what Kevin Levrone did, and compete once a year, and take the rest of the year off?
He could take pictures while he is in shape, and share them throughout the year, and basically live privately during that time?
Would that work?
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Is it possible for Antoine Vaillant to sort of do what Kevin Levrone did, and compete once a year, and take the rest of the year off?
He could take pictures while he is in shape, and share them throughout the year, and basically live privately during that time?
Would that work?
No,
You are speaking about a drug addicted junkie. He has been in and out of rehab more times than bhankys been in jail.
The only time way this idiot will stop is when he’s dead, hopefully soon.
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FROM REHAB TO THE OLYMPIA STAGE | IFBB PRO Antoine Vaillant | Real Bodybuilding Podcast Ep.144
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No,
You are speaking about a drug addicted junkie. He has been in and out of rehab more times than bhankys been in jail.
The only time way this idiot will stop is when he’s dead, hopefully soon.
Pretty fucked up thing to say.
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No,
You are speaking about a drug addicted junkie. He has been in and out of rehab more times than bhankys been in jail.
The only time way this idiot will stop is when he’s dead, hopefully soon.
He will be dead soon the way he’s going, death is the only way for these mental cases
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He will be dead soon the way he’s going, death is the only way for these mental cases
Only way these morons will learn
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One thing I find strange is that he doesn't equate steroids as being a highly addictive drug, he's gone to rehab a bunch of times and whatnot, but he comes out "clean" and immediately starts juicing. Steroids are just like any other drug, they're highly addictive, alter you hormones, body chemistry, dopamine, serotonin. I'm sure he uses clen which is an amphetamine (speed) so is he really "clean and sober?"
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One thing I find strange is that he doesn't equate steroids as being a highly addictive drug, he's gone to rehab a bunch of times and whatnot, but he comes out "clean" and immediately starts juicing. Steroids are just like any other drug, they're highly addictive, alter you hormones, body chemistry, dopamine, serotonin. I'm sure he uses clen which is an amphetamine (speed) so is he really "clean and sober?"
I believe the steroids and bodybuilding are giving him the discipline/ lifestyle to stay off of recreational drugs ( nobody really uses clen anymore if so … just for a short time pre- contest ) ..it’s such a militaristic lifestyle (the training/ eating / getting up at the same time every day / eating every 2 hours cardio etc) … it keeps him off the recreational shit …. Who are we to say or Judge? If it works it works! ..
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I believe the steroids and bodybuilding are giving him the discipline/ lifestyle to stay off of recreational drugs ( nobody really uses clen anymore if so … just for a short time pre- contest ) ..it’s such a militaristic lifestyle (the training/ eating / getting up at the same time every day / eating every 2 hours cardio etc) … it keeps him off the recreational shit …. Who are we to say or Judge? If it works it works! ..
I mean no hate, I actually really like the guy, and I think he brought a great look to Chicago, but let's not kid ourselves, he's trading one addiction for another is all I'm saying. Drugs are drugs they alter your chemistry. Are Rec drugs more detrimental to humans then steroids that can be debated for sure.
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One thing I find strange is that he doesn't equate steroids as being a highly addictive drug, he's gone to rehab a bunch of times and whatnot, but he comes out "clean" and immediately starts juicing. Steroids are just like any other drug, they're highly addictive, alter you hormones, body chemistry, dopamine, serotonin. I'm sure he uses clen which is an amphetamine (speed) so is he really "clean and sober?"
Clen isn't an amphetamine
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I can't beleive i watched all of that.
He must be one of the dumbest people i've seen in a while.
And his GF/wife is a total flakey cunit.
How can this video get attention? This looks like a pathetic existence. If this was my life i'd end it.
But he did confirm the orange roughy myth.
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I can't beleive i watched all of that.
He must be one of the dumbest people i've seen in a while.
And his GF/wife is a total flakey cunit.
How can this video get attention? This looks like a pathetic existence. If this was my life i'd end it.
But he did confirm the orange roughy myth.
Shit lol! (Now I have to watch it!) …
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what a shit fucking life... no wonder he went on the meth.
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he gets dialed in last few shows,he goes from big and smooth to ripped pretty quick.if he's off a smidge on his diet he is either too smooth or flat.
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what a shit fucking life... no wonder he went on the meth.
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Agreed, sir! What a maroon is Antoine.
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Lol! Kinna like my life (just add in walking 10-15 miles per eight hour shift in a shopping mall ) …pretty boring and lame (like “ Groundhog Day) … yea that was pretty “ un watchable “maybe I’ll do a “ Day in the life of” video to see if I can top that monotony and boring -ness!
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Lol! Kinna like my life (just add in walking 10-15 miles per eight hour shift per day) … pretty boring and lame (like “ Groundhog Day) … yea that was pretty “ un watchable “maybe I’ll do a “ Day in the life of” video to see if I can top that monotony and boring -ness!
DO you compete anymore?
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DO you compete anymore?
yes sir
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Is he still alive?
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Is he still alive?
Heart issues and in prep right now.
Shouldn’t be much longer.
Wonder if he has a will or life insurance.
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Is he still alive?
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Nice he’s getting ready for a battle for last place
I believe there’s 30 competitors. So 14 competitors are going to be dead last.
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HAPPY 19th PLACE!!!
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70,000 SQ. FT. GYM?? NEW JERSEY TRIP
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70,000 SQ. FT. GYM?? NEW JERSEY TRIP
WTF? Not a real job or life among them.
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WTF? Not a real job or life among them.
Coming from one of the biggest trolls in this cesspool of a forum, that's quite comical.
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Coming from one of the biggest trolls in this cesspool of a forum, that's quite comical.
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LOL! It took you two days to come up with this? A "troll"...really? Well now, aren't you just the biggest and baddest of the "Three Billy Goats Gruff"? Thanks for the smile and laugh!
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Coming from one of the biggest trolls in this cesspool of a forum, that's quite comical.
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Comical when guys shit on getbig. So since you know it's a cesspool you must read the threads. Why are you here then? I definitely don't agree with most of the opinions on here. But guys on here are real. They say what's really going on and they don't watch their language. That horseshit on FB Instagram Tiktok that's not reality. So.worried about the image you portray to everyone else. Bunch of fake ass mfers
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He takes preworkout!?! I always suspected he was not natty, not we know
Next thing we find out about this junkie is that he's on dat dere melatonin >:(
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Heart issues and in prep right now.
Shouldn’t be much longer.
Wonder if he has a will or life insurance.
hard but important big questions
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Comical when guys shit on getbig. So since you know it's a cesspool you must read the threads. Why are you here then? I definitely don't agree with most of the opinions on here. But guys on here are real. They say what's really going on and they don't watch their language. That horseshit on FB Instagram Tiktok that's not reality. So.worried about the image you portray to everyone else. Bunch of fake ass mfers
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Coming from one of the biggest trolls in this cesspool of a forum, that's quite comical.
You're one of the dudes in the vid right?
Scott is one of the most legendary members here
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He meant real in that people here say exactly what they think with no filter.
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Next thing we find out this junkie is on dat dere melatonin.
Brutal Anadrol, bruh.
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You're one of the dudes in the vid, right? Scott is one of the most legendary members here.
Exactamundo.
The Scott is an elite ‘bigger.
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He meant real in that people here say exactly what they think with no filter.
Correct
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New guest posing vid
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New guest posing vid
The thing with the Guitar sure made him stand out and be remembered